The Great Nightingale Materials Catalogue (Check Pinned)

[marble pier]

Okay so did a buncha testing with this.
The bonus does only apply as long as at least 1 component was made from Plant-Based things. Using animal-thread fibre or grendel threads don't work.
It also appears there's a bug that causes the benefits to not show visually on the item if too many other +benefits (such as from augments) are being applied.
Added both instances to notes, and changed the core wording to reflect the plant-based.
Tyvm for bringing to attentions for testing and confirmations.
Bug Report lodged: https://playnightingale.ideas.aha.io/ideas/RRBUG-I-734

[cosmic mantle]

Good to know that the greenhouse actually is doing things

[nimble venture]

Since it's not on the list.

Since Meat shares the same stats and I don't have any my T3 Fabled anymore. Guess i don't want this over Regular Carnute Asada after all.

[nimble venture]

Ok had to go farm some more iron but I did some more Forge world testing and would to like to dispel another myth about the forge world. Heard folks saying Etching ingots boosts them too. This is not the case.

[nimble venture]

Since Meat, Bones and Chitin/Hides all share the same stats.

[nimble venture]

For the sheet

[pine pebble]

Some of the mystic tools use cut gems

[bright trail]

Does anyone know why plant materials drop with different stats?

ops, wrong room

[cosmic mantle]

Has anyone seen a creature cage in the realms

[fair badger]

Which minor card increases yield for ores and such

[nimble venture]

Forge. Thats all it does currently.

[deft light]

I did, but can't remember where tbh

[cosmic mantle]

If you see one can you let me know what augment it gives

[deft light]

Will do. iirc it's like a big bird cage

[wicked sedge]

doesn't give me any augments on any crafting benchs

[cosmic mantle]

unfortunate thank you

[cosmic mantle]

Sometimes when carving harpies with the hunter eminent card, I get cobalt?!?

Anyone else see this?

[cosmic mantle]

Not my voices in the background

[wicked sedge]

Yea, I get all kinds of gems and ores while it's active. Idk how drops work in this, but hopefully they don't take slots from fabled drops

[pine pebble]

anyone know where to get hollow noble ingots?

[wicked sedge]

ascendant forest anything has been my best bet for hollow noble

looking for stone pillar with black ore

[cosmic mantle]

There's a good chance it does

The drops aren't looking good as of right now

[vernal rain]

I am missing the Adventure Minor and Estate Minor realm cards in the Catalogue, or maybe I missed them?

[heavy cove]

Those are for sale at the watch

[vernal rain]

Yes, I know. Just wondering about the bonuses.

[subtle halo]

I just picked those up, should I link them here?

ah nvm, the bonuses are already on the google doc

[flint briar]

#1288819014327603201 message

[sacred valley]

Anyone know if there is any iron ore in the Abeyance?

Or converesly, where to look for it?

[nimble venture]

Abeynce is all tin. First Iron I found was Magwytch so I prsume that means prov.

[wicked sedge]

Starting to think they are doing small patches constantly. My vault farm after a few hundred harpies stops spawning harpies, when it didn't before, and I went to grind bound metal, and the music note respawn spawns random mobs instead of the same like it was before

[cosmic mantle]

It doesn't say in the properties that any updates or hotfixes have been pushed recently

[wicked sedge]

Not sure then

[marble pier]

The intellect spawns have always spawned random mobs from v0.5 onwards. You're correct that it used to spawn an easily repeatable, and farmable, set pre-RR, but that changed in the update

[wicked sedge]

Gotcha, just remembered reading it in one of the guides, and figured they had been updated. Maybe I saw an old guide

[marble pier]

Most of the guides are defunct, there's very few accurate things out since the RR update, most of them are in the community guides channel heh

[cosmic mantle]

Is Tier 5 meat a thing? I remember seeing a T5 Fabled Leoporidon post once

Yes this

[latent lichen]

And vault baba of course

[sacred valley]

Whats the google link to the spreadsheeT?

[tiny portal]

check pins

[sacred valley]

ty

[marble pier]

I think the Leporidon stats are simply incorrectly tiered, if you kill the T3 you get T4, if you kill T4 you get T5

The only other T5 things are Apex/Vault/Boss materials, and the fae resources

[latent lichen]

Charm of ammunition - i thought the proc chance would be low, but its really not. Here's a run of counts before freebie with the slingbow 3 4 2 2 4 5 4 2 3 2 2 1 4 2

Mean of 2.86, n of 14, stdev of 1.17, so std error of 0.31.

2.86+/-0.31 = probably 30%. Maybe 25%, maybe 33%. Very Good.

If you prefer CIs "With 95% confidence the population mean is between 2.25 and 3.47, based on only 14 samples."

[pine pebble]

while the noble bismaltus ore says 12%, the ingot is actually 14% melee

actually, nevermind! I had forge card active

[cosmic mantle]

Oh okay, thanks

[cosmic mantle]

This is awesome data thank you

[pine pebble]

doesn't look like the ingots forge card bonus is applied to components made out of it 🤔

[marble pier]

Yeh it's.. kinda buggy atm for whatever reason. I'm using lumbermill and quarry to get the bonuses when I can heh

[cosmic mantle]

Nope, I've taken a look at it and it has 0 effect on the final product no matter what item is made

Fasteners, buckles, etc usually keep the buff, but once it's made into armor or weapons it loses the buff

[pine pebble]

tfw you finish making your armor and realize you forgot to convert the cloth to durable cloth 🤦‍♂️

[cosmic mantle]

Unfortunate

[pine pebble]

I don't have enough gold to remake it 🤣

[cosmic mantle]

I've been farming fabled harpy for the last three days

It's not fun

[pine pebble]

for ranged and stealth?

[cosmic mantle]

Yes, ranged stealth and movement speed

[pine pebble]

what does the stealth rating do anyway

[cosmic mantle]

Allows you to get closer to creatures when out of combat without them noticing you

Things like the fabled achlis deer make it worth pushing for

[pine pebble]

ahh

[cosmic mantle]

Is T4 Fabled Grendel not a thing or is it just missing from the sheet?

Not looking for it right now but I can put some time into looking for it if we still need it

[pine pebble]

might not have been found yet

or verified

[cosmic mantle]

I see

I'll keep an eye out

I've just about verified at this point that Hunter Eminent is NOT suitable for farming fabled harpy meat

[latent lichen]

You mean like this ?

[marble pier]

Hurrah, added to the sheet, ty Halo

[cosmic mantle]

nice

For anyone farming Fabled Harpy Meat, these are my numbers right now

I don't have data for ore drops on Hunter because I didn't realize it was happening until eminent

My theory is that the Ore drop from Hunter Eminent card is bugged and replaces the fabled meat drop

Next test is blood moon apogean on hunt realm

If I have good luck with meat drops I may continue farming past 100 kills

[marble pier]

Wouldn't Hunt realms be better, since they double the yields of slain critters?

Provisioner seems a weird one

It does seem blood moon apogean is the main component

[cosmic mantle]

No because the amount of spawns is reduced due to the high volume of enemies

[marble pier]

Hrm. Are you focused mostly at night farming or day, or combined?

[cosmic mantle]

Well the blood moon card turns all spawns into nighttime spawns regardless of actual time of day

[marble pier]

That's fair point.

You don't want to farm the loot from the harpies from humbaba spawn?

That could be a more reliable way?

[cosmic mantle]

Here's a map of the hunt realm I am farming in. The pawprint symbols are harpy spawns.

[cosmic mantle]

The harpies from humbaba also despawn just like the vault boss

Yes, I can kill them with knife, but that's not the point

[marble pier]

Yes, BUT, right before they despawn, you can harvest them and get loot.

And they spawn -constantly- from the humbaba

With a oberons knife you can full harvest in 1 hit

[cosmic mantle]

That's for a later test. Right now I'm testing defaults

[marble pier]

And get full loot

Fair enough, having a good baseline, very valuable

[cosmic mantle]

This is for science, not for loot

Else I would have stopped killing harpies on the hunter eminent card after seeing 20 kills

[marble pier]

Are you using zephyr points to travel between spawns quickly?

[cosmic mantle]

Lodestones? Yes but only after I've confirmed the spawn locations. I don't want to risk losing a potential spawn location

Also for reference to compare with the hunt realm, here's the night time spawn locations for harpies on Ascended Provisioner. The difference is obvious

Locations marked with essence are still harpy spawns but with a higher rate of fabled drops

Star symbols are locations where I've gotten a fabled drop more than once in a row, while essence is four to five times in a row

[latent lichen]

`So i got 9 eoten wood using dragon hoard apogean, and 10 using dragon hoard eminent...No card is 5

[cosmic mantle]

Not putting in the drops yet but here's my time per run

Physically running

9 kills on hunt versus 48 on prov

[old hazel]

so location finder for Hollow - Noble and Einaida seems to be wrong for Ascended Herbarium Forest.

specifically, found what I think is a large Einaida POI, and have found no Noble Hollow in caves/vault at all

[kindred quiver]

Herbarium Forest (Untamed)

basic deer

[cosmic mantle]

Please check the document before you post random things that we are already aware of thanks

Updated harpy drop rates

[kindred quiver]

I dont see it on the doc?

[nimble venture]

Bones are under MEAT

[cosmic mantle]

Cobalt is under ores, Holt Bloom under plants, Silver under ores, Ribbon Wood under wood, etc

[nimble venture]

Ironically Meat Bones Hide and Chitlin all have the exact same stats. Meat has some hunger stuff if you eat it raw like a damn savage.

[kindred quiver]

Im looking on the location finder?

dose this part not get updated?

[cosmic mantle]

You're looking in the wrong place, that's for location specific farming/crop items

[kindred quiver]

Yeah iv done that?

[nimble venture]

Well Cobalt being found in the woods isn't on the spreadsheet of doom

[cosmic mantle]

Ahh I see now

My bad

[kindred quiver]

So what i put is alright?

i dont wana get told off xD

[cosmic mantle]

You're fine it's 2:30 in the morning for me and I thought you were saying something else

[kindred quiver]

Ahhh no worries xD

[cosmic mantle]

I've also been nonstop killing harpies for the past 5 and a half hours

[latent lichen]

Fabled harpy is ugly too. Insult to injury. They really need to do a pass at some point and make the lower drop rate stuff look better.

[cosmic mantle]

Yeah...

Have you already gotten your full set of fabled harpy?

[latent lichen]

Nah I compromised.

[cosmic mantle]

?

[latent lichen]

Fabled harpy for the leather bits, used other stuff for fibre

[marble pier]

Tyvm

Added to the finders

[cosmic mantle]

ah gotcha

[cosmic mantle]

It's looking like about a 10% drop rate with blood moon apogean and charm of skinning. Not sure if harvester's workshop had an effect at all

[latent lichen]

In provisioner exclusively? Fascinating. I got no meat or bones in Hunt, which is why I gave up.

[cosmic mantle]

Don't use hunter card, according to my data it's not dropping the fabled meat from harpies

I'm sure it's possible, but I tried it two separate times and got 0 fabled meat, meaning the rates are stupidly low or I'm very unlucky

Hunt Realms themselves seem able to drop fabled meat, but I'd recommend blood moon apogean

[cosmic mantle]

Provisioner has the least amount of "wildlife" so it has the most room for harpy spawns

[marble pier]

One big piece of information we need to lock down for the Loc Finder is exactly what bound types spawn in what realms, would anyone be interested in delving to find this? I'm gonna start as well

[latent lichen]

And harpies are known traders, so makes sense

[marble pier]

To help with target farming bound loots

[cosmic mantle]

Well Marksman and Bound Aegis do NOT spawn in the Provisioner, but they do spawn in Hunt

The rocketeers I think they're called also do not spawn in provisioner but do in hunt

Bound breakers do spawn in Provisioner

Ascended*

[marble pier]

Rocketeers..?

The mortar guys are the Breakers, the big guys with the maul are Bruisers

[cosmic mantle]

In that case, Bruisers spawn on Asc Prov, Breakers spawn on Asc Hunt

Bombardiers (flame spitting guys?) spawn on Asc Prov

I've used some meat for crafting but here we are

About to abuse every rounding error to get the most out of this meat lol

[marble pier]

Bombardiers throw the grenades, Kyrosiphon's are the flame spitters 😆

[cosmic mantle]

Kyrosiphon then

I don't pay attention to their names hahaha

[marble pier]

Yeh hehe

[cosmic mantle]

I've about done it

Two pieces left

I can feel the power!

[marble pier]

Very nice

[cosmic mantle]

If my math is correct I need 12 more meat to finish the set

[smoky finch]

easier to just farm fabled spider meat

but is there a meat with crit and ranged damage?

[remote cedar]

if only

[cosmic mantle]

Easier isn't the point 🙂

[smoky finch]

i dont know what is the point

to minmaxing you dont even touch the harpies

if you like movement speed but that is irrelevant

[cosmic mantle]

How is movement speed irrelevant lol

[smoky finch]

because you can just set lodestar next to spawn

[cosmic mantle]

In a brand new realm that you're visiting for the first time?

[smoky finch]

yeah it matters for that ONE time

after that you have established the network

why would you open new realms to farm if that one realm provides everything you need for that given time

[cosmic mantle]

Let's see...

Movement speed affects:

Run speed, walk speed, crouch speed, dash distance, climbing pick speed, umbrella glider speed, grapple speed, Charm of the Arcane scaling, encumberance speed, slowness resistance, maybe something I'm forgetting

While you hobble your way to and from areas of your base, I'll be getting there 40% faster 🙂

[smoky finch]

40% faster of 1 minute

yay 30 seconds

of 1 trip before i have built a lodestar

[cosmic mantle]

How many hours do you have in the game

[smoky finch]

you cant compare total hours of the game to a feat you are doing in endgame

[cosmic mantle]

Well let's say you have 200 hours. If I play another two hundred hours, i'll be running around for 80 hours less 🙂

[smoky finch]

why would i run around

[cosmic mantle]

There's no "point" to how I play the game, we all do it differently lol

Why do you build when spamming chests on a platform works just as well?

[smoky finch]

yes i agree there is no point to how people might enjoy the game

[cosmic mantle]

Alright well this is not the place to have a pointless argument lol let me do what I do

[smoky finch]

like i would have a force to make you do otherwise

but i stand my ground with the movement speed being irrelevant

it only applies the first time you enter a realm,but you dont need to first time enter realm when every mob respawns and you can build 10 portals to have every asdcended realm available all the time

not to mention if you are comparing that time saving like running to certain realm T5 mining,you save that 40% per time spent,but are you running that ore farming 100 times or is it enough to farm it 3 times to gain the gear

[cosmic mantle]

It applies at all times

[cosmic mantle]

Probably yes

[smoky finch]

no it doesnt apply at the second time you enter the realm because you have built lodestars to the spawns and can use those instead of running

or,you should had built

[smoky finch]

and to this,i dont know to what you are answering yes

[cosmic mantle]

Alright let me know how the sun giant fight goes with a ranged build

cuz movement speed is unimportant

stop bringing this up

[smoky finch]

you just climb to the ledge available and hope he doesnt sandstorm you there

someone might say cheesing

and now you are cherrypicking a one single fight where it doesnt even really matter anyways

[cosmic mantle]

Lol

[cosmic mantle]

Here are my numbers as of yet, taking a break

My main tests are using a mystic knife made from harvester's workshop card. Again, not sure if it has an actual impact yet

It's weird because when there were roughly 350 harpies killed, the drop rate was about 10%, but now it's dropped to about 5%

Unsure if I'm lucky or unlucky. Larger numbers will help figure that out

I will note that it is many times more efficient to kill harpies on the Ascended Provisioner Realm, since they spawn more frequently and closer together

With the help of Lodestones to cover some of the larger gaps, I kill 51 harpies per session in ~10 minutes and 30 seconds, and up until the 400 kills mark that was netting me 18-20 Fabled Meat per hour

I believe that this method is faster than the Jana Vault

If you factor in time spent lowering the boss' health, clearing the dungeon, and gear.

[inner holly]

hey y'all I'm trying to find the "globe" augment but can't find it. Is it something you have to unlock somehow by doing something else? If so, what is that something else?

[wicked sedge]

globe is tier 3 under clothing

[cosmic mantle]

Finally completed the Fabled Harpy set. It took me about 1400 Harpy kills

[marble pier]

Huzzah

Now for them to remove the ranged damage attribute in the next update

XD

[cosmic mantle]

I would uninstall lol

Just kidding but I'd be sad

[marble pier]

hehe

[cosmic mantle]

With an umbrella I'm stupidly fast wow

I can cross the entire map in 30 seconds

[marble pier]

yep

[timid minnow]

Any advice on farming harpys?

[cosmic mantle]

You have two options, but it will still take a long time.

You can either go to the Swamp vault and kill the Harpies that spawn from Jana with a knife so you can carve them as they despawn, or you can do what I did which is 25-30% faster.

The Ascended Provisioner Realm is the best location to find Harpies, because it has the least amount of other creature spawns (Yes, I find it even more efficient than Ascended Hunt Realms).

Use Blood Moon Apogean card for the highest chance at rare drops, as well as to make the time eternal night.

Run around the entire map and mark every location that you see a Harpy spawn, then put lodestones close to the spawns that are very far from each other.

If you have a good Ascended Provisioner Realm, there should be 15-20 locations that the Harpies spawn. If it's much less than that, you can consider resetting the Realm.

Use the charm of skinning and make your knife with the Harvester's Workshop card (I have yet to determine if Harvester's has an effect but that's what I used so it's up to you).

Kill the Harpies, return to respite, wait for the portal to close on its own to reset spawns, then re enter the realm. OR make a second Ascended Provisioner Realm that you can farm while you wait for the other one to reset.

Drop rates are expected to be between 5-10%. Since Harpies drop multiple of the fabled item more often than not, expect to get a fabled meat drop of 2-7 meat every 30-50 kills

[timid minnow]

Thanks alot for the response! 🙂

[cosmic mantle]

I'll make a post so others can find it

[karmic crown]

Can you show how to achieve that? I am very much wanting max umrella speed

[cosmic mantle]

https://discord.com/channels/854679517997695016/1290341861164191836 Here's my guide

As for the umbrella, it only takes one fabled harpy cloth so it's pretty cheap

[karmic crown]

Yay thank you sir!

[nimble venture]

Could also use Bandersnatch?

[cosmic mantle]

Probably. I hit the 5% limit on the third material

[nimble venture]

Yeah with triple dandy you got most of the speed. Harpy would be the 'better' material since it also gives stealth.

[cosmic mantle]

I just built it from fabled harpy for the meme. The umbrella's stats didn't matter much to me

[nimble venture]

Since i don't see it on the list. Incidently, meat/bones/hide/chitin all share the same stats aside from the eating raw meat effects and can either be consolidated/cross referenced in the spreadsheet.

[cosmic mantle]

Just tried using the locations finder for the first time but when I change the dropdowns it doesn't change what I'm looking for. I saved a copy already

[latent lichen]

checked, charm of the pitcher does not appear to affect grenades (was worth a crack)

[cosmic mantle]

Lame honestly. Sounds like something we should complain to the devs about

[latent lichen]

I can't get my grenades past about 5k damage, because of the stupid material requirements for the mystic grenade recipe (two ingots where max ranged = 6%). 5k is enough to clear chaff happily on balanced though, so it's still a reasonable pair with a pistol for clearing.

[nimble venture]

Gotta make your own copy o the sheet to use the dropdowns. I just read the Admin use only one since its faster.

[cosmic mantle]

I made my own copy and it still didn't work for some reason.

I just needed to see where I can find each ore so I know which Realms to prioritize the mining in

[marble pier]

You should speak to @stoic tendon, they run the Fabled Hunting Guide, this would be a good inclusion
https://discordapp.com/channels/854679517997695016/1283995114116485202

[sleek niche]

I downloaded the Google sheet as excel.
Went to the last sheet "location data - admin"

Used the normal table-cell filter there to sort it out.

[cosmic mantle]

Oh good to know I'll try that when I wake up in the morning

[sleek niche]

Caves and Bunker feel like different loot/mining table.

I got Ruby/sapphire on Astrolabe desert in Bunker but nowhere in any of it's caves.

Balanced difficulty

[sleek niche]

I extracted that single sheet into another book for better reading without scrolling through all the sheets..

I m adding some ore locations in forest biomes.

[cosmic mantle]

I found them in caves on Champion

[sleek niche]

Hmm so there is still difficulty scaling present.

[cosmic mantle]

Maybe accidental

[crystal light]

which forest?

[cosmic mantle]

I may have confirmed it. Drop chance is Realm specific per creatures

[nimble venture]

Ok my highly unscientific testing does confirm that the lumber mill card does improve tools crafted there (assuming they need at least 1 wood)

[cosmic mantle]

Does Gilded Lumber apply?

[nimble venture]

Did not test that.

I took some old mats (t3 lac and sepelwood) and made a pair of murderin axes. One at home and one at the mill. Mill one has extra melee, some more ranged on it 1% movement speed and 1% injury resist.

Using refined wood axes to test since they're cheap.

1.3 more melee damage a 2% ranged boost (wood is ranged wood) 1% movement speed.

[cosmic mantle]

I have enough materials to try and minmax something with lumber mill, what do you want me to make? Axe, pickaxe, Climbing Picks, Maul?

[nimble venture]

I was just testing for the sake of testing. Gonna go make a 3rd on my combat workshop.

[cosmic mantle]

Alrighty thanks for testing 🙂

[nimble venture]

Ok combat workshop improved only the melee on the tool but it improved it more than the lumber. 2.7 more melee vs 1.3

So combat workshop gave a 3.744BIGLONGDECIMAL boost vs the lumbers 1.803BIGLONGDECIMAL

[cosmic mantle]

Okay so it's the same as before

good to know though

[nimble venture]

Though new patch tomorrow means time to see if Forge world Theta Omega 146 will be spared exterminatus or not.

[cosmic mantle]

Ughhh I have a theory but I can't possibly test this by myself

I think Fabled creature drops are related to Realm properties and Player Unique ID, and rotate on a timely basis.

[cosmic mantle]

From the moment I entered the loading screen to the closure of the portal it took 10:05.
From "All is Ready" screen, it took 9:25

Does it take the same amount of time for anyone else? 9:30 to 10 minutes for the portal to close?

[kindred quiver]

I belive this is wrong on the spreadsheet

[cosmic mantle]

You're sure it wasn't made with forge card?

[kindred quiver]

Ooooo it could have been tbh!

[sleek niche]

Brass and Bronze is Tier3 Ingot. damn.

[nimble venture]

If forge actually worked steel would be great. Since it stacks forge twice (once as iron and once as steel)

[cosmic mantle]

That's a good point, but it wouldn't exceed noble bismaltus anyway.

It'd be good for during progression though

[marble pier]

Yeh the steel I have in my stores is without forge card, and is the lower attributes.

[kindred quiver]

My bad sorry guys!!!

[cosmic mantle]

Uncraftable Item

[nimble venture]

ILLEGALE

[marble pier]

Yeh it's a fun one, gilded with gems

[latent lichen]

illicit carpentry has occurred

[cosmic mantle]

Tier 4 version would probably be the ultimate hybrid build item

8% melee 8% ranged 10% magick

[marble pier]

I already have that on the sheet, found it yesterday

I like that hybrid things are starting to appear, is a often under-allocated part of gameplay

[nimble venture]

Nope, nevermind Yew is still a dumb concept.

[cosmic mantle]

No yew are

[marble pier]

I'll have to do the patch updating when I wake up, having troubles staying awake, so will need to do it in the morning instead of immediately on update. The fun of these updates landing at 2am-ish for me >.<

I've added tiers to all resources, and will do so with clothing as well when I do the patch updating

[sweet hornet]

barrister's coat is labeled as containing 2 fiber, 2 hide, and 2 metal
it's crafted with 3 leather (reinforced leather has 1 hide, 1 metal), 2 lining (2 fiber), and 2 buckles (1 metal)
where does the second hide come from,,?

[cosmic mantle]

Leather is made from 2 hide

[sweet hornet]

does it have the stats of 2 hide,,?

because afaict this is measuring how many times you can add an item's attribute bonuses to something

[marble pier]

No I'm pretty sure it used to have straps as well, it was my starting clothing set. But, I'll be going over everything today+ post-update to update anything that changed, and see if can catch any errors I made, so I'll spend extra attention to this set of clothing

ty for the alertings to it

Post-update is always a fun time, lots of changes can sneak in that aren't mentioned >.<

Lemme have some breakfast now that am awake, and I can dive in and get started 😄

[marble pier]

Yep, some clothing got touched. Time to activate the change log >.<

[cosmic mantle]

Yes!

[marble pier]

Can anyone check if they have the Rough Hewn Boots recipe still?

[nimble venture]

I wonder how clothing being changed would affect things retroactively.

[cosmic mantle]

They changed arrows, they no longer extract into Tier 1 essence and are destroyed instead

[nimble venture]

that was last patch

[cosmic mantle]

Oh

[marble pier]

Could Coating always be used in textile slots?

Or is that new?

[cosmic mantle]

It might be

[raw hatch]

i have it

and hour later lmao, if you need it

coating could be used as textiles before this patch btw

[marble pier]

I wonder why I don't have that

I'll need to investigate

[raw hatch]

it was a starting outfit

[marble pier]

Yeh but I swear I had it before heh

[raw hatch]

they stole it from you 😔

[marble pier]

Is it in your progression menu?

Can you check if it is, and whether Barristers is as well?

Barristers is another starting gear set

Because for me, Barristers was unlocked in progression because of my starter set

So I'm curious whether those items are now maybe "hidden" unless you picked that starting gear set

[raw hatch]

sorry, let me look

i know that the drayman's cap and coveralls ARE in the progression menu in t2

but the boots i am not sure about

the barrister's i have

[marble pier]

Okay, that's weird

[raw hatch]

yeah i can't find it in the prog tree

[marble pier]

hrm.. that's very weird then

I'll need to report that

tyvm

[raw hatch]

np!

[marble pier]

Okay all craftable items are updated, only a couple changes there, calcularian boots, barristers coat, rough hewn boots and scholars bonnet had some adjustments, everything else is untouched

Will be doing resources next, need lunch some noms first for energy XD

[nimble venture]

Red warrior needs food badly.

[wicked sedge]

where can i find this elder eoten wood? killing the ones in ascended hunt realms gives the health regen elder eoten wood

[remote cedar]

the mouse over note tell you in which realm you can find it

[cosmic mantle]

Vault

[remote cedar]

elder eoten wood from vault give 10% ranged not 10% crit

[marble pier]

The crit one is a quest reward, my bad

I thought I updated the note

unless I'm wrong? Lemme go kill the normal hunt realm guy

My head is a-swarm with numbers n stuff, updates already boggle me a bit

[wicked sedge]

what i got from ascended hunt realm elder eoten

[marble pier]

What about the non-ascended?

[wicked sedge]

will check

[marble pier]

I'll go do that one too

Loading in now, have finished my eatings

Tbh I'm really annoyed with the continuity of attributes for the elder eoten woods

[remote cedar]

I think I got some on elder eoten crit wood when I was farming for my weapons, but I can't remember where.

[marble pier]

Them and carnutes annoy me greatly

[cosmic mantle]

I couldn't see which stat he was looking for, so I assumed he wanted the ranged one

[wicked sedge]

like how hard is it to name something differently

[marble pier]

ikr

[wicked sedge]

yea crappy picture on my part lol

[remote cedar]

I'm so used to looking for resources with crit and ranged damage that I immediately recognized the 10% crit in the first column x)

[marble pier]

But yeh afaik there's four possible ways to get the elder eoten wood, 1 is vault, 2 is hunt realm, 3 is hunt realm ascended, and 4 there's a quest that gives you a bundle of 10x

So if it isn't any of the hunt realms, then it's the quest reward that gives it

[remote cedar]

I imagine that the wood of the quest is obtainable only there?

[marble pier]

If it's the only one with crit, then yeh

[cosmic mantle]

I can check

[wicked sedge]

what i got from normal hunt elder

[marble pier]

Must be the quest then

[cosmic mantle]

The Quest reward is the injury resistance wood

Just confirmed it, it's the same as the open drop

Perhaps we should verify if a crit wood even exists?

[marble pier]

I know crit wood is normal eoten wood

[cosmic mantle]

Well I meant crit fabled elder

[remote cedar]

I remember having some by killing an eoten but it was maybe a non-elder one

[marble pier]

I'll check my stores

[wicked sedge]

i wonder if like harpies

they only drop from normal eoten?

as a random fabled drop?

[marble pier]

I haven't seen anyone find a Fabled Eoten drop yet in RR, it used to happen rarely pre-RR though

[latent lichen]

is crit sere eoten fabled?

[remote cedar]

I have a rifle stock made from with it I can check out.

[marble pier]

Sere is speed

[latent lichen]

Fabled as well? Normal sere is movement speed and enviro, but i havent seen fabled

[marble pier]

Fabled just adds max stamina

[latent lichen]

wood bundle: regular eoten wood is crit

[marble pier]

Yeh it's just .2% higher in speed value

[latent lichen]

so fabled 1 is ranged, fabled 2 is injury resist, normal is crit, sere is movement

[wicked sedge]

starting another ascended hunt, gunna murder some normal eoten and see if i get a fabled drop?

[marble pier]

I'll fix the entry now

[wicked sedge]

i hope beyond all hope i dont gotta grind it if it is the case...

[latent lichen]

oooh eoten hearts have crit too

[marble pier]

Oh-hoy you have fabled eoten

Sorry overwrote the tagged lol

I was like "I shall respond to halo OH FABLED EOTEN

[latent lichen]

fancy sirium

someone cut down a lot of trees

[marble pier]

Yeh I'm hoping for the hearts to be allowed to be fruit at some point, like the flavor text implies

[cosmic mantle]

I don't have a good axe and I'd rather not waste all my ruby on fire ammunition

[latent lichen]

did it come with fabled eoten hearts? what do they have for stats?

[cosmic mantle]

I'll have to farm for some eoten later

[remote cedar]

I think I did the right thing by proposing the vault wood version as an alternative in my build if it's that rare.

as it was one of the first drops I had with an eoten, I thought it was common.

[wicked sedge]

yea im doubting the 10% crit is worth it, but im gunna make a longbow with just crit, just ranged, and a mix, and see how it turns out

[cosmic mantle]

Which is better?

[remote cedar]

I'd say this one but I'm not sure, now that we know that the stats of the bases (weapons) are independent of the rest of the gears, I'll have to do some calculations.

[latent lichen]

oh is ammo anywhere on the mat cat? i was looking for current stats the other day and couldnt find it

[cosmic mantle]

Alright, I'll stay tuned for your notes

[marble pier]

All the ammo doesn't list +'s anymore

[latent lichen]

but... it still has +'s right?

[marble pier]

🤷

I know the elemental has "effects", but not any + damage boosts from using

[remote cedar]

I thought I saw a gain when I shot the fire cartridge on the eoten vault boss, but between charms and others buffs, I'm not sure, maybe some mobs have elemental weaknesses.

[marble pier]

Okay I think that fixes the elder eoten entries, the 2x t5 from the fabled (vault + quest), and the 3x non-fabled (1 from offering, 1 each from hunt/asc hunt)

[latent lichen]

eotens are weak to fire

[marble pier]

Oh, eotens are weak to fire, fire damage does bonus regardless of source

Ice is strong vs giants, lightning vs automatons

[latent lichen]

ok i just blasted three of each element into a crude foundation, all did 88 damage. will need to make some basic one sto check if they're the same

yeah all the same. no more +50% for lightning

[marble pier]

I should make a list of the effects though so people are aware, somewhere

Maybe in the ranged weapon page, make a row for ammo

[cosmic mantle]

Yes some creatures have weaknesses.

Harpies are weaker to lightning that's for sure

[latent lichen]

regular explosive do the same damage, so unless you're chasing resists its probably not worth the variety. stick with ice.

[nimble venture]

Giants are resistant to blunt. as well.

[marble pier]

Ice is just baoss

[latent lichen]

definitely fit it on a current tab, no more tabs 🤣

[marble pier]

hehehehe.. buut I can make more!

[latent lichen]

ice is only good if you hav eto hit more than once, so bosses, but if you're lazy (like me) then just always use ice and its wasted on most things.

[cosmic mantle]

So I gave someone access to the Realm that I use for harpy farming and they are getting the same drop rates I am off the same nodes of harpies

[marble pier]

I mean I run ice with my DoT magick build, just shoot everything once and it buuuurns like crazy

[latent lichen]

drop rates fixed to spawns at realm creation???

[cosmic mantle]

So I'm doing a separate test by node of harpy to see if it's a fact that some nodes have a higher drop rate than others

[cosmic mantle]

Yes

[latent lichen]

but whyyyyyyyyyyy

[marble pier]

I would honestly report the behaviour, as well. Because I feel like that shouldn't be the case

[latent lichen]

why would drop rates be fixed locally at all???

[wicked sedge]

i mean, it promotes exploring new realms to an extent, trying to find better realms to grind on

[cosmic mantle]

Look man, all I'm saying is they better give me a Harpy-related role

[cosmic mantle]

It could very well be a bug, but I want to make sure it's not a coincidence. I'll find out for sure

[wicked sedge]

the amount of normal harpie meat i turned into essence to repair gear before i found out you could reduce higher essense into lower

[latent lichen]

i can imagine someone deciding it encouraged exploration, several other mechanics do that too. but it's still a bonkers design choice imo

[cosmic mantle]

Well if you think of Minecraft seeds (because I love using Minecraft as an example it's my childhood game), they work the same way

Some Realms have better seeds than others, where some harpies drop more fabled than others

Then the race to find the "best seed" begins

[remote cedar]

honestly when I farmed harpies I had doubts, sometimes I had the same loot in the same quantity on the same mobs

[marble pier]

I think I'm gonna make some yummy food with my t4 fabled harpy meat

[wicked sedge]

"ZEUS!!! GIVE ME A SEED WITH 100% HARPIE FABLE MEAT DROPS AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!"

[marble pier]

I need to make a ranged build set at some point, so that it's actually usefuls lol

[cosmic mantle]

Right

[wicked sedge]

i mean if your cheap, normal harpie meat works. and i bet half of us would be GLAD to get rid of some of it

[cosmic mantle]

I'm going to set up a giveaway for 100 Fabled Harpy Meat tomorrow since I'm going to keep grinding these things anyway

Or maybe I should only make it 50, idk I'll decide tomorrow

[latent lichen]

gonna go find someone i can set on fire to check something with dot scaling on marbles

The difference with minecraft seeds is that once you find one you love, you can intentionally regenerate that one. In nightingale realms are random and uncontrollable (like the fae).

[cosmic mantle]

The problem with normal harpy is that we're all minmaxers here or just about.

Hmm, losing 2% ranged damage on each mat...

Durable cloth is 3x so 6%
gear with 3 textile items is another 3x so another 6%

You could be losing roughly 112% damage

Rough math

[latent lichen]

2% compounding is big numbers

[cosmic mantle]

It really is

People are like "It's just 2%" and then they realize

[marble pier]

I think when I'm done with update, I'm gonna make a "shooting gallery" contest

[remote cedar]

flabled widower meat also gives 10% ranged but no speed bonus

[cosmic mantle]

Ooh very similar to my contest

[cosmic mantle]

This is the better alternative for sure

[latent lichen]

widower is way easier to farm. thats why i'm wearing ugly stripes instead of ugly patches

[wicked sedge]

yea in the nicest way i can, the design choices for the colors on these mats are atrocious at best

[cosmic mantle]

They'll improve them for sure. It's probably one of the biggest feedback right now

I want fabled gear to be sparkly

I wanna feel like a shiny pokemon out in the faewilds

[latent lichen]

It's wild to me how bad they are, given how pretty everythign else in the game is. It feels like an intentional troll

[remote cedar]

the transmog station (I don't remember what it's called) has color options that are currently unavailable, so soon colors won't be a problem.

[wicked sedge]

well that sucks, giving an offering to the trees gives you tier 1 wood even on ascended...

i didnt WANT to cut down a forest, but i will

[latent lichen]

so: firstly, dot damage definitely isn't scaling with ranged damage. secondly, it definitely is scaling with magic. Thirdly, the scaling is rubbish. You get a tick of a bit less than half your magick stat in damage per tick.

Given 1500 magick will get you a spell doing ~20k, a tick of 750 can go die in a fire. Very slowly because the fire is crap.

I'll put a full set of magick gear on just to check the scaling doesnt go non-linear at high values

[remote cedar]

now we just have to see if it fits with an affine function like basedotdmg*(1+magickpower).

[latent lichen]

(1+magickpower/2.1) would be a good guess

or (magickpower/2-1)

[remote cedar]

if so, that means you're doing negative damage below 200% magick power

[latent lichen]

is "magick" on the stat sheet in raw %?

It's not a % that I can see, so I'm using magick power as on the sheet. It'd have to be under 2 to do zero ticks.

[remote cedar]

in fact that's what I'd like to determine, “does magickpower work like the other stats?”.

[latent lichen]

I don't get the impression it converts as a %, unless 1 magick = 1% magick damage. I'm getting my magick set out to test this dot so i'll sling some spells half naked and see how it changes (i don my robe and wizard hat)

[remote cedar]

It seems to work like the other stats

[cosmic mantle]

TIL you can surf off a haddock's ox with the umbrella

[latent lichen]

Oh right. I was thinking more in terms of how the stat converts into spell damage, which comes after that step

[cursive talon]

huh... something for the cat. Hoe Flies count as meat.

that would make for an interesting wellington.

[cosmic mantle]

Pure protein

Removes stats

[cursive talon]

blarg... tosses that idea out the window

[cosmic mantle]

Lol I wish

15% bonus movespeed from food made with hoe flies would be awesome

[latent lichen]

how much do you get from harpy meat?

[cosmic mantle]

Nothing from regular harpy meat, but Fabled 1.8%

Alright, alright. Which food should I make with fabled harpy...

I know you're asking

[latent lichen]

Ugh, confirmed with a magick mystic slingbow specially crafted. At 495 magick power, fire marbles dot tick for 238. DoT fire damage is 48% of magick power exactly, rounded.

[cosmic mantle]

Hearty stew I suppose

[marble pier]

Can you throw down a tempest card and test with a higher value and see if the % remains?

[remote cedar]

how does tick damage work? Is it a fixed value or can their damage be increased?

[latent lichen]

What does tempest do that would affect it?

[marble pier]

Tempest boosts magick value

quick way to up magick immediately

[latent lichen]

That;s what I'mtesting. It seems to be fixed and scaled linearly with magick.

Yeah aight gimme a minute

[remote cedar]

so you can change the tick rate but not the tick damage, if I've understood correctly?

[latent lichen]

Oh no the other way

[marble pier]

basic tempest is +20% magick roughly

Apogean is +50%

[latent lichen]

I need to grab some poison marbles as well, i think they're slightly different

[remote cedar]

ah okay, I thought the “tick” column was the number of ticks in the same time period.

[latent lichen]

Nah tick damage

I havent tested if tick speed changes, but it feels static. Don't think I have the tools to test it frankly 🤣

[remote cedar]

take a video and count the frames, but it's a pain, but I'd find it odd if you could affect the tick rate. Although when I see how production bonuses are managed, where it's the total produced times the bonus, the whole thing is rounded off, I expect anything

[latent lichen]

i cant get the ticks to be stable with poison, and i'm seeing weird fluctuations in immolation damage as well. Does tempest do something funny with resistances?

Fire marbles are very stable though. Adding the higher magick level datapoints gets you a very robust estimate

poison marbles appear to almost twice as much damage, scaled to magick, but the duration is much shorter. Havent timed it, but like 5s vs 20s difference.

However theres two groups in the data there - something is affecting resistances is my guess, so you get 1 magick = 1 poison dot some of the time, but only 5/6ths of that other times. ETA: its more likely something is giving me 20% more damage sometimes, because thats a nice number.

regardless of the instability in the data, definitely firm conclusion that slingbow dots are useless to both ranged and magick builds in 0.5. Totally nerfed to death.

[cosmic mantle]

Screwed up the rounding error on the first one but I made them

That cost me 14 Fabled Harpy Meat

[marble pier]

I feel like just using normal harpy meat is better

Especially for quantity cookings

[latent lichen]

so i was counting stat slots on recipes and came to the conclusion that hearty stew is where its at in 0.5. is that correct?

[marble pier]

Should be right

H.Stew for hp, gazpacho for stamina

[latent lichen]

i managed a tolerable stew for stam as well, so gazpacho is only for Really Stacking Stamina For No Reason

[marble pier]

But honestly H.Stew is still really better, it's only like 30 stamina max less

And hass heaps more hp/etc

[latent lichen]

this is cheap

[marble pier]

Plus 1 extra ingredients

Mine heh

[latent lichen]

I prefer more regen 🙂

and yeah for hp stacking, stew beats wellington easily

[latent lichen]

thats great hp regen for non-casters

[marble pier]

I went forest fish just because I'm a mage, can easily use another fish for more HP regen

[latent lichen]

i cbf fishing 🤣 my mate swears by surf n turf for secondary food as well

[marble pier]

And this ones my third

[latent lichen]

why holt instead of more sanguine?

[marble pier]

Holt is the millet for dough

[latent lichen]

oooh you can do that instead of wheat? i had no idea, that's great. i thought all the dough recipes tied you into oats/wheat

[marble pier]

You can use -any- fibre to make into millet

Can't use thread, but can fibres, so yeh

No grendel millet sadly, but this is still good

[latent lichen]

cant farm britomarts right?

[marble pier]

Not grow, but if you do herbarium realms, with harvester sickle, and greenhouse card, with oberons, you get about 400 fibre per POI

So about 40 millet per site

[latent lichen]

if i ever feel the need to stack my magick power even higher, thats good to know.

[marble pier]

I haven't gotten around to making a full magick food, I wanna do forest fish with brito dough, somewhere

Also worth noting, Dulcet Lapis, Carnute Ichor, and Geist Mushroom are all classified as Plants, so greenhouse card + herbarium also works for those

Unsure re hoe flies, haven't found one in a herbarium to test

But they show up as meat for cooking, so no idea what would boost those

[latent lichen]

i've still got hundreds of good-enough wellington to get though, so i'll keep holt fibre in mind for umm, next reset 🤣

[latent lichen]

someone upthread (or maybe in the build guide channel) showed they cook to zero stats so

[marble pier]

??

Oh, yeh, they have no attribute -bonuses-

But I'm still collecting them

Hopefully that'll be fixed eventually

[latent lichen]

You will eat bugs and be happy? 😄

[marble pier]

I happy to eat anything, just not wear bugs

XD

I have so many resources still to get XD

[cosmic mantle]

Hunter card maybe? That'd be interesting. Could also be quarry since they're pickaxe mineable

[marble pier]

Naw what tool is needed doesn't determine it, dulcet/carnute/geist all need pickaxe, but are plants

[cosmic mantle]

You're a plant.

[marble pier]

.>

I are just a frondly guy.

[teal parrot]

Ice might be an MVP for magic support characters though. I haven't gotten far enough to test high magick, but from the limited testing I have done with a friend, it looks like one person can apply the debuff and another can take advantage of the damage multiplier. With magic as high as 742, we may be looking at a multiplier around ~ 4.4

[cosmic mantle]

This is a huge find. I will ask a Magick main to use ice in my next 220 vault

[teal parrot]

Good or bad, please let me know how it goes

[latent lichen]

Oh it absolutely rockets magick. I didn't realise this wasn't commonly known. On my mage build I use a six shooter or a lever action with ice rounds to prep bosses every ten seconds or so, it almost doubles your magick damage output.

[cosmic mantle]

Brand new realm, not my own. Using the same strat on my previous farm

[marble pier]

I dunno, I've always found ice was a x2 flat

I've been using Ice rounds - for a long time - from around like, 300 magick, to 1700+ magick

And it's -always- been a steady x2 damage

[latent lichen]

Yeah I havent noticed a change in scaling with magick power of my character, that's true. I just noticed ice debuff made magick kick butt

[teal parrot]

I'm still early in progression. Perhaps it caps?

[marble pier]

S'possible

[latent lichen]

I havent made a casting revolver, that'd be how to test it properly i suspect. Slingbow sucks for stats.

[marble pier]

I use it as a mainstay part of my magick build, doubles DoT's and such

So I throw out bees, sickle hermetic flame, a few ice bullets

and then a quake if needing some crowd control

Doubles all of it

[latent lichen]

bees/immo or bees/fish is what i roll, with ice from revolver to debuff on big things

[marble pier]

yeh I use immo/fish if I don't need CC elements

I tend to use hermetics a lot so I'm constantly swapping hands

dagger for bees, sickle for hermetics, revolver for ice bullets

[latent lichen]

brolly in the offhand?

[marble pier]

When being sneaky yeh, otherwise lantern if I using quake, since I have my +dmg vs prone on that

[latent lichen]

havent made a lantern yet. On the list

[marble pier]

I'm thinking of making a casting dagger separate from harvest dagger just to save the charm spot

Like my dagger is casting, but has skinning charm

So I might just run a 2nd dagger to use for the corpsifyings

I also run ferocity and blood charms

Lots of damage boosties for me heh

[latent lichen]

i thought about it but ran out of mainhand quick access slots. knife/sickle/picks for casting, gun, axepick, spyglass is my usual loadout for magick

[cosmic mantle]

So the tooltip for ice ammunition used to be 400% strength bonus and 150% damage bonus.

They removed the tooltip, but this may still be the case

Super grainy but

[latent lichen]

its definitely not 150% damage bonus on the ammo itself anymore, all ele appears to be 100% damage now.

[cosmic mantle]

Alright well just giving you an idea of how they used to scale it

What did they do to strength though

[marble pier]

They moved strength to a fixed value per weapon now

[cosmic mantle]

There's no more blocking efficiency or strength, which makes me sad because I used to fling enemies away for miles

[marble pier]

It's a back-end value you can't modify

Does the stagger/knockback/etc

[cosmic mantle]

But it still exists, which means...

Hmmmmmm

Too much to think about right now, back to harpy farming

[marble pier]

Am taking a break watching AoE2 tournament heh

[teal parrot]

huh. I'm getting a 10% damage increase when I use elemental ammo over regular ammo (except for poison ammo)

[marble pier]

Do you happen to have any minor cards active?

[teal parrot]

All testing done on a Forest Provisioner on Balanced with an Angler Card

[latent lichen]

Hmm my test case for comparing the base values of elemental vs explosive may have been inappropriate (crude foundations)

Theres definitely variability in mobs resistances that affects behaviour and needs to be adjusted for. Still looking for a really good test subject for violent actions

[marble pier]

Shoot buildings

[latent lichen]

Also I most recently just tested marbles. Its possible "explosive" counts as an element and all marbles are 10% higher than a rock. I havent compared regular bullets this patch.

ok all five pistol bullet types do the same damage against crude foundation in a herb 50 forest. but also its 88 damage per shot, which is weird because its the same i got with slingbow in a different gear set. suggests some sort of damage cap (i normally shoot for ~8k on a body shot with this gun)

[cosmic mantle]

Didn't they say they made it harder for you to oneshot buildings in late game? They probably capped out the amount of damage you can do to a building in a single hit

Just like you said

[latent lichen]

yeah i'm headed into an untamed place to find a non-player building to shoot. can definitely still accidentally blow a hole through those

non-player buildings just show their hp on destruction :/

[cosmic mantle]

How many times should I run through the same map and kill harpies before the data seems reliable and I try on a different one? I'm killing 18 harpies per run on the current, and the others will be about the same.

I'm about to do run #10, which will be 180 kills

[latent lichen]

10 reps should be reasonable, 3 harpies per node gives you a minimum sample for each one there thats ok

[cosmic mantle]

I'm measuring by node, and not individual harpy at the moment

[latent lichen]

~10% seems about right from testing with pistol, 10% for all ele incl poison. difficult to prove for ice because debuff kicks in but i think its about the same

[cosmic mantle]

I suppose I'll swap to another Realm after this last run

Nah I changed my mind. I'll do 50 runs

Per Realm

[teal parrot]

Demonstration of ice bullets not giving a x2 multiplier

[latent lichen]

thats 1.6x

ish, with crit funny business

[cosmic mantle]

Likely 1.5x rounding error'ed up

[latent lichen]

explosive marbles definitely seem to do same damage as other elemental marbles, although aoe falloff is annoying to test with

ehhh they do like 1.6x

I wouldnt be surprised if there were different multipliers for magick vs ranged vs melee

or something even more complicated. but i also havent mathed the magick multis lately, i just look at the big number go up and go yay

[teal parrot]

Ranged Damage (both): 335.92
Crit multiplier (both): 2.978
Magick Power 1: 58.52
Magick Power 2: 62.216
Charm of the Sniper used to eliminate range damage fall off as a variable. I don't think the value is rounded here.

[cosmic mantle]

Would anyone like to do me a favor and make an Ascended Provisioner Swamp card and put it in a portal at my Realm?

[marble pier]

Invite me, I have cards for everything

[marble pier]

Rei#7003

[cosmic mantle]

give me a few minutes

[marble pier]

I will keep hunting t4 desert bits

ack reinvite, popped up as I clicked to harvest a kill

This one?

[cosmic mantle]

You can put it in this portal with your name on it

Yeah balanced Asc Provisioner Swamp 🙂

You'll have to reset the portal if you already have one

[marble pier]

What difficulty you want?

[cosmic mantle]

Balanced

For science 🙂

Thanks 🙂

I won't use it now, but when I wake up in the morning I'll start testing with it

[marble pier]

weird house XD

[cosmic mantle]

Is it invisible for you too

[marble pier]

Nope?

[cosmic mantle]

I can't see my structure at all so

[marble pier]

They said they fixed that :/

[cosmic mantle]

Nope

Not fixed

[marble pier]

Apparently you need to let realms "close"

[cosmic mantle]

"Improvements"

[marble pier]

or whatever

[cosmic mantle]

I do

[marble pier]

But I assume you trieed that heh

[latent lichen]

Thats bizarre but fascinating data

[cosmic mantle]

Deleting the data for now

I'll have something in a few days 🙂

[wicked sedge]

from a normal eoten in an ascended hunt realm with blood moon apogean

exact mob name is Holt Eoten

also good to note, carnutes respawn Eoten with their plant respawn

[cosmic mantle]

This is a big deal

Can you "Regrowth" them?

[wicked sedge]

just got my axe enchanted

going to check now

i murdered the eoten, turned to kill some bound, heard carnute yell, turned around to eoten respawned, so thats what im assuming happened

[wicked sedge]

regrowth does not work unfort

[cosmic mantle]

rip

[wicked sedge]

what is this? an Alola Holt Eoten?

dudes TALL

[cosmic mantle]

lol

[latent lichen]

Redwood cousin

[wicked sedge]

anyone know if certain bound spawn better between different biomes?

[latent lichen]

Yes but i couldn't tell you the details

[wicked sedge]

need tier 4 hollow metal

[latent lichen]

Also POI vs open world at night vs blood moon may be slightly different groups inside each realm, from what I've observed.

[nimble venture]

Probably Gloom for the extra drops too

[wicked sedge]

yea im on a desert gloom with blood moon and i cant find this crap

[cosmic mantle]

#1290341861164191836 message

New data

[marble pier]

Actually, whilst the carnute might regrow the eotens, what it can ALSO do is summon them with its adds summon call, like how it can summon a fabled or a pack of wolves etc

That surprised me the first time it happened to me, start fighting the Carnie and it brang a tree and I was like, welp, that sucks, dies

It seems to be very rare, out of all the times I've fought a Carnute, it's only called an Eoten a handful of times, thankfully heh

[marble pier]

Yes I'm tracking the specifics in the Locations Finder page on the matcat

Certain realms spawn only certain bound, Gloom can spawn -all- the bound, which makes target farming really painful

Vaults are the same, all bound can spawn. But the other major realms, they're specific to a selection of bound between them all.

I don't have a full set of data on that yet, was what I was doing prior to the recent update

For Hollow Metal, you're wanting Assassins

[wicked sedge]

after 2 hours of grinding i finally found the 2 pieces of hollow metal i needed lol

[dusky spear]

Easy Star Ruby grind (always same location) on Welkin's Reach, just under B2

[sleek niche]

We have Einadia on Sylvain Cradle & Star Ruby on Welkin's Reach.
Would there be something like this on Magwytch Marches, Gloriana Tears, Gauntlet, Hollowed Moor ?

[raw hatch]

magwytch has titan's fingernail and a bunch of other currently-useless t5s, and a star ruby tree

dunno about the others

[marble pier]

I honestly prefer searching Untamed, since can find a bunch of lore hope echoes, and a bunch of other res for it heh

I really dislike that the T5's are available in stored realms 😦

[raw hatch]

at least i know i can always find einadia if i need it. maybe if they gave us some kind of ore-finder

gotta find that balance between encouraging exploration and avoiding player frustration

[marble pier]

I mean, for resources that are rare and valuable, having to explore to find them should be the goal

At its heart it's an exploration game, and things that remove the need to explore for things, I think shouldn't be encouraged

[sleek niche]

at some point, exploration would become a chore. who are searching for the last 1% advantage min-max

[marble pier]

Which is a choice, yeh

You don't need to

[cosmic mantle]

UHM

220 Jana HEALS

Did anyone else know this?

[marble pier]

You trying to farm for harpy?

[cosmic mantle]

No

I was trying to kill it

[marble pier]

Weird, normally only heals when you leave her low

[cosmic mantle]

It healed about 25 million HP in the middle of the battle

[thin latch]

did you manage to finish up?

[cosmic mantle]

No I'm out of there, she has at least 250 million health

[thin latch]

yeah, I saw how crazy the health bar was. valiant effort tho

[cosmic mantle]

And the fact that she heals, nah no chance

I had duelist card on and I wasn't getting hit, yet I still couldn't do more than 1.1mil a shot

It would take wayyy too much ammo to kill her

Besides, she healed twice

Which means I need to use fire rounds instead of ice

The blunderbuss is awful

[thin latch]

it's situationally useful but it's not really a boss blaster

[sleek niche]

1.1mil with charm of called shots ?

Since Jana is in water area, would charm of naiad work ? Or it gets cancelled by charm of Venom.

[cosmic mantle]

Yeah I had that one too

Most of the damage bonus was from the Duelist card I had active. Not to mention I had buffs from Fabled Harpy Meat made into Hearty Stew

Naiad wouldn't be as effective as other charms. I don't use charm of venom but I probably could

I've used it in the past, but idk

[marble pier]

Have you tried the gun cards?

The text says it also increases elemental ammo effectiveness, which could make ice bullets wompy more?

[cosmic mantle]

Maybe but duelist is a huge buff

Haven't tried the cards

[latent lichen]

@marble pier with suggestions on game improvements, whats the most effective way to do that? I woke up with inspiration for farming and left a comment on a pertinent thread on the aha this morning https://playnightingale.ideas.aha.io/ideas/RRFEEDBACK-I-202

[marble pier]

Honestly what you did is the best way, find a thread, upvote it, and comment to leave detail.
If nothing exists, then make the thread.
When suggesting new improvements, ideally what you wanna do is make sure each sugestion is a single thing (as much as possible), so people can upvote what they like without risking losing upvotes because 1-2 things in the post are what they don't like.
So if you have each of the following things:

• survivors helping farm
• more farming planters
• greenhouse decorative
• ways to make planting seeds more efficient

Then put each in a separate post, focused on that element.

I get - a lot - of difficulty with the CTP posts because they're often big and contain a lot of different elements. Doing that means they won't be upvoted by someone that -really hates- 1 piece of a 20 piece idea, and thus it risks going significantly below notice.

It also means if the devs wanna focus on a thing, they can't mark and tick off each element upon the post itself, so breaking it up makes things easier for devpeoples to track and action, as well (which is -always- a plus!)

[latent lichen]

Good points, well made.

I think there's probably plenty of dev thought on the farming development once it comes back up their various lists.
The comment I left today will do the single most important job of raising awareness of the wardian case which I think is a perfect fit for the lore of the game 😄

Doesn't really matter how they make it work to fit their vision for how cropping works in the future, I can make suggestions but the devs probably have plans.

NB Ward and the Linnean Society in general deserve a quest line, im-plant nerd-o. Cant imagine what wild theories the Linneans would be putting together when looking at the biodiversity of the fae realms

[marble pier]

hehe

[latent lichen]

apparently he favours hermetic casual and the sage coat

[sacred yew]

Wow 600 hours now and that is a new fae doohickey for me. Crazy

[fervent zealot]

that's a thought, can you still get awenite, abalonite, losrewn and luminous spores?

and do luminous spore have a use now?

[remote cedar]

not yet

[fervent zealot]

ty

[remote cedar]

in relation to last time's discussion, I don't know if it's been noticed, I found some fabled (non-elder) eoten wood again, which can be looted on non-fabled holt eoten like fabled hide on harpies or carnutes, not on fabled eoten

[marble pier]

Combatant's & Harvester's Workshop Cards Information
Okay upon further testing both the Harvester's Workshop and Combatant's Workshop cards, we've determined that the increased and reduced yields from these cards only applies - whilst the cards are active in a realm - and do not apply to tools crafted with these cards.

My original test had these cards active when I crafted each and tested their yield values, and so I experienced those results, but upon discussion I have re-tested and discovered my error in that regard.

Card effects in the MatCat have been updated, and I've placed the following feedback posts in relation to these:

Combatant's Workshop: https://playnightingale.ideas.aha.io/ideas/RRFEEDBACK-I-718
Harvester's Workshop: https://playnightingale.ideas.aha.io/ideas/RRFEEDBACK-I-719

[pliant cairn]

Has anyone found more than one T5 creature in the Ascended Hunt realms? I found a T5 Lepodiron the Ascended Swamp Hunt Realm. I am checking all the top creatures in other ascended hunt: forest and desert. I have not found any that have a second T5 creature.

[marble pier]

The Leporidon as a T5 is a bug, the T3 drops T4, and the T4 drops T5, but the attributes are right, the tier is just a mislabel

The only T5 creatures are the Apex creatures

Sun Giant, Elder Eoten, and Humbaba

[pliant cairn]

Thanks. I am hoping for more T5 fibers and hides in the future. 😉

[marble pier]

Me too! Need moar things 😄

[cursive talon]

When it comes to the minor cards, do they still add the durability or damage buff when crafted under the cards effect or is it lost when the card is changed or in a realm with out it active?

[nimble venture]

Well that makes things a tossup between that and vault wood. basically do you want crit or raw ranged on your wood.

[nimble venture]

Combat does provide a damage boost (at least melee) for tools crafted in the realm

[pine pebble]

which bound drops regular arcane wicks?

lantern heads

[marble pier]

They do, I've listed the instances on the minor card page with what applies to what

[cursive talon]

thank you for the information. i was afraid i read that wrong that all bonus stuff left when the card changed.

[marble pier]

All good, it was only those two cards, and only the "yield" mechanic

The rest of the things are all as expected

[latent lichen]

@marble pier just worked out with @teal parrot in the build guide channel that charm of 100 blows and steadiness can be prestacked by whacking your long-suffering recruit. Expect this will be the new meta for massive alpha strikes.

[marble pier]

Le'sigh

[latent lichen]

On the bright side, steadiness appears to be a bit useless so it'll just be the knife jocks.(as a ranged fan, i dont think one of the only ranged damage charms being useless is a bright side)

[marble pier]

😦

[latent lichen]

Yeah we just confirmed. While 100 blows is a multiplicative bonus, steadiness is additive to gear damage multipliers - ie its great if you suck at doing ranged damage, but if you have ranged gear it gets progressively crappier. I got ~6% bump from max stacks.

[marble pier]

heh yeh

[latent lichen]

Its nut to me that what are ostensibly two identical charms for melee vs ranged, operate completely differently. Steadiness drops off if you miss as well, where 100 blows is purely time based.

[marble pier]

yeh

100b came in -much- later, so I assume they did some tweaks and the old stuff just hasn't been given love to make it fair

[latent lichen]

I suspect it was low priority because 0.3 ranged was uh, comfortable shall we say.

[marble pier]

yeh

[latent lichen]

Worth adding timing to some things where known. Charm of Morale - "Temporarily (30s)". Arborist's Shield - "Temporarily (60s)". Neither of these appear to scale. Also Arborists is a flat DR, only source in the game, very powerful.

Also, Arb might be a fixed proportion of damage, which is even more bonkers. This was my findings yesterday:

*arb lasts a fixed 60s and absorbs 80% of damage at magick values between 88 and 1285. However I'm only doing 425 damage to myself with explosive marbles in my wizard gear, so it may be capped.
With my ranged set, explosive marbles kill me so somewhere north of 1.8k damage, and arbs drops it to ~400 damage. Makes sense if its still 80%. Also still lasts 60s. *

[cosmic mantle]

uncraftable item, forgot about this

They removed the recipe unless im blind

[split axle]

Did a quick cooking test to see if the Provisioner realms still provide any buffs to cooking, and it does.
The first image is was cooked in my home realm(herbarium) with no augments or other buffs on the station.
The second image(2 meats) was cooked in a Provisioner realm with no augments or other buffs on the station.
So looks like the Provisioner realm adds extra health, stamina and hunger mitigation to foods cooked there.

[teal parrot]

I'm gonna disagree with your findings just a tiny bit. I believe Arb's damage resistance boost is equal to the other resistance boosts it provides, which cap at 80% at a magick power of 100, but follow a regression of
DR = 13.33 + 2/3 * magick power
when magick power is below 100

[teal parrot]

Did charm of Gastric Defiance get removed from the game? I still see it on the Catalogue.

[marble pier]

Okay so it still provides the hp + stamina + hunger mit ++ it seems

[split axle]

Shame it doesn't affect duration anymore though

[marble pier]

yeh looks like they swapped fed time ++ for hunger mit ++

[marble pier]

I will check quickly before I crash and tomorrow I will do a thorough charm recheck of everything, 1 sec

[marble pier]

Nop still there, it might be a Watch recipe now, will check that

Yeh it's one of 13 charms you get at The Watch

So not in progression menu, but you'll get it eventually

I'll do a double check of all charms tomorrow to ensure accuracy of texts and such anyways

[teal parrot]

Thanks a lot, I'd love to check its effects. If it provides DR I want to know how it interacts with Arb. I guess I'll find out when I get there!

[granite cove]

Quick question. When I go to locations finder to try and figure out where specific ores are, all it shows me are Bound. Is this a filter that's locked for me or did the location of the ores change?

[teal parrot]

Have you made your own copy of the catalogue? I think that's required for the kind of drop down selection interaction you need to search for ores and such

[granite cove]

I have, however I don't even see a filter on that page. In addition, it seems there's no gap in the column/rows to make it seem like there's a filter on.

Here's what I see on my copy.

Oh, disregard.

I see the filter now.

[hasty tide]

someone made a local excel copy from this? A) I see the filter icon only after I click on the field "The Bound" can I make this icon always visible? B)And if I select something, is there a way that Excel update the sheet?

[split axle]

Make a copy and you will be able to use it

[hasty tide]

You make the copy to google, right? Yes, with a google copy it works.

[split axle]

Yes, you can save it as a local file too but it doesn't matter.
You need to make a copy so the document can be edited to show you what you need, only the author can edit it otherwise.

[hasty tide]

The problem is my local excel download. 😐

[cosmic mantle]

No, I have the recipe

oh I answered late mb

[latent lichen]

No this is still in there, I just didn't think about it.

[latent lichen]

Ah yeah not surprised. I haven't been able to have magick that low in a long time 🤣 It's weird how lots of things still scale to 100 magick, as if that's a high number.

[neon pumice]

Under the Location Finder, I am pretty sure Harpy's are in every Ascended Swamp, as I have been farming them in Prov/Hunt zones in Asc. but they aren't tagged as T4.

[cosmic mantle]

Yes they are.

[cursive talon]

any asc. realm will be t4

[marble pier]

I'm "generally sure" of most of the things, but the finder is specifically a "confirmed sightings" list, so if you've been encountering them in Asc Prov/Hunt, I shall include!

[marble pier]

No he was correct, they were not marked on the finder for those locations, because no ones reported seeing them there yet (and I haven't gotten to doing those realms yet).

They are now marked though

---

I have updated the clothing entries with numerical lists instead of asterisks, and added a max components column for additional search criteria help

Also updated the notes in the components header and added a new note for the Textiles column to describe what the listing is referencings directly, hopefully that will help for clarity? 🤷

[latent lichen]

In before the inevitable barrage of complaints to predict: no-one will read the notes 🤣

[marble pier]

I know 😦

[latent lichen]

Ah if only we still had the <blink> tag

A second prediction: 50% of users will not understand why your listed number isn't the number of items required by the recipe.

[sleek niche]

Untamed Provisoner Realm provides T3 Blue Essence.

[marble pier]

le'sigh..

okay will brb in like an hour, gonna make some foods and suchness

Have all my stuff set up to start prepping materials for my obulance mansion, regency made out of pure marble and gold filigree

Unsure what shingles though, maybe granite?

[sleek niche]

T3 Yew = Meele 6%, Range 6%. hmm. how would be T4 look.

[sleek niche]

What Fiber is this ? Untamed Provisoner Desert

What Ore is this ? Untamed Provisoner Desert

[fervent zealot]

does anybody have some Yew - Fossilised Ichor? i don't want it, I just want to see if it's a real thing.

[fervent zealot]

Awenite and Losrewn, they are gems.

[fervent zealot]

Britomark's Locks

[latent lichen]

I have some gilded - fossilised ichor somewhere. The forbidden log.

[fervent zealot]

good to know ty

[cosmic mantle]

Oh I was agreeing with what he said, Harpies are in every realm.

To be honest I have yet to get the location finder filter working, even after making my own copy

[sleek niche]

Ask him for the Location finder Admin sheet.

Make a local copy of it in excel.

The table column filter works. As all filter are applied at the same row.

[cosmic mantle]

@marble pier do you think you can send me the admin sheet so I can do this?

[marble pier]

For the moment I've unhidden the locfind admin sheet, and added a link to main locfind page on it. I haven't gotten to doing the update for the finder yet 😦 Time sucks, will try to get it done as next thing asap

[hasty tide]

may I ask if you get the "locations finder" functional in Excel? I have the drop down list for Biome and category, but a selection don't update the sheet.

[sleek niche]

You do not have access to this sheet ?

[hasty tide]

yes, i can open this sheet, but I puzzle why excel not update the sheet in locations finder.

Things that I don't need, but want to know 😉

[hasty tide]

strange... I have the feeling I get more meat and Harpyas when I run around without lodestar.

[fervent zealot]

i might have found something new. Blood Heart Sap, tier 5, no stats, consumable

anyone else found this?

only got 1, consumed it for sake of research sorry i just realised i should have put a pic of the stats.

did nothing.

[split axle]

Helps if you also mention which realm you found it in

[fervent zealot]

Ascended Astrolabe Swamp

[split axle]

Now we can add a location for it lol

[pine pebble]

is the math on the clothing correct? looking at the elegant bonnet which says 2/3 textiles, but only 7 max unique components?

[nimble venture]

what is used to make it again?

I know my own gear planner thing has 7 items max. 1 Flower and either 6 thread or 3 thread 1 hide 1 metal.

[pine pebble]

textile slots can use durable cloth, which is a lining + cloth (2 slots), lining takes cloth + thread (2 slots), and cloth only takes thread (omitted because it's counted in the higher components). so that's 4 unique for textile slot, 1 for cloth and 1 for flower. unless I'm missing something?

[nimble venture]

Yeah 1 flower, then you either use 2 sets of durable cloth (3 thread stat bonuses each) or 1 set of D cloth and 1 set of reinforced hides.

So yeah. 7 bonuses.

[pine pebble]

alr then, ty for clarifying

[nimble venture]

Or 6 if you got the leather route

[marble pier]

So is it an ore or something?

[marble pier]

I'll start doing target hunts for it, but without a picture of it found I won't add to matcat, if new resources exist they need to be confirmed before adding

[fervent zealot]

It's a consumable. It said it's sap.

So something like Canadian maple syrup.

[marble pier]

I mean the node.

What is the appearance?

All the T5's have a unique spawn, compared to other resources. If you're saying this appears like a regular ore or gem node on the map, I'm a little skeptical of this

[fervent zealot]

All I got is it's crimson red, reflects the sun on all sides and you can partially see through it. Just look at the pic. I'm not gonna make anything up that is literally how I found it.

I will admit I understand the scepticism most t5 can be seen a mile off and are huge, came across this per chance. But I ask you. Have you ever seen it before? If it's not T5 it's definitely something unheard of. As anyone here this entire chat or discord for that matter ever come across this? and if have please enlighten us.

[split axle]

The model used to the be alternative cave model for ruby before the 0.5 update, so I've seen the model before but not the new resource

[fervent zealot]

really? i forgot about that. that is useful to know ty. so it could be some former ruby accidently kept into the game.

[split axle]

Yeah it used to be very very rare to find one, but I do remember having a brain melt when I found one and thought I found something new only for it to be ruby lol

I doubt it was accidentally kept though, since you don't accidentally create a new node with it's own name and forget ebout it, it has to be an intentional addition

[fervent zealot]

it did have a 'N' seal in my inventory other than that im out of info, i just seriously wished i'd took a pic of inventory, im annoyed at myself.

[fervent zealot]

true maybe a model hasnt been made yet and its a dummy

[split axle]

Yeah it's likely a new item that doesn't have its own icon yet then, that or it's something old but if it was someone should have remembered it

[fervent zealot]

im kinda more puzzled slightly relieved so thank you

not like we can ask a dev directly and say, "hey, whats this"?

fyi, any devs reading this, we want to know the answer please.

i feel bad for people looking for it now.

[split axle]

Don't feel bad, you gave people something to do

[marble pier]

For the MatCat, with new materials, I need a picture of the material to confirm the existence, it's not whether I believe you or not, that's a requirement I have for the MatCat of everyone. I won't even update attributes of materials without a picture of the card.
It's simply a minimum standard I apply to the MatCat, I will -only- add/update materials and attributes through that.

(locations finder is totally separate from this, but will only have entries of resources within the matcat to avoid confusions)

I'm tearing apart realms looking for it myself though 😉

Even doing a datamine to see if can find referencs to the name of it within the games files

Without the pic I can't do more than really say "I will look for this wholeheartedly, because I am very curious to confirm the existence of", heh

[fervent zealot]

fair enough if i ever find it again, you'll be the first to know.

[split axle]

Revisited my abeyance realm and I can confirm that Coffee Cherries and Titania's Crown(T1) can both be found in chests

[marble pier]

Considering how incredibly varied chest loot can be now, I've stopped tracking it entirely, as it covers almost every item in the game heh. It's too much data for the finder to be actually useful finding things, since its only seeming to be realm tier based

[sacred yew]

Good on you :) Your work is amazing you are not allowed to burn out we need you!

[split axle]

I fully understand this and mainly posted the info because some people might want the T1 fibers for decorative purposes

It's why I revisited my abeyance, to look for decoration fibers in chests

[hasty tide]

I don't know if this is enough for "Things I Wish I Knew" but you can demolish a building by removing the foundation.

[sleek niche]

Gloom Forest, is damn good.

Full of Pursuit, Ayerium, Gold, Emerald, Sapphire.

[fervent zealot]

Things I wish I knew? How about this. Crystal Ball is actually the Excellent Magick Augment but is bugged to be the same as Refined, the real Refined Magick Augment is Danu's Cauldron, which was apparently removed in 0.5 but still exists in the game and can be used. If you want the best Resistance Clothes or Best Magick Tools, build Sewing Bench or Work bench next to the Danu's Cauldron at Danu's House and it'll stack with the Crystal Ball, How's that?

[nimble venture]

Yeah tghe P menu shows the ball as Excellent the inspect shows it as refined.

[split axle]

Just happened to notice that the Major Cards tab does not list this effect from the Herbarium major card.

[teal parrot]

I found Dulcet Lapis in an untamed Astrolabe Forest

[marble pier]

Yeh I wasn't sure yet whether the old realm buffs still existed, I've heard the provisioner realm still has the cooking buff too, but I haven't confirmed. I'll do that today and add both to the matcat 👍

[teal parrot]

In an ascended herbarium on explorer, I hit a bound fiend or bound lamplighter with a knife just after it spawned while I had the charm of the pickpocket. It dropped a tier 3 gilded lumber made of ribbon wood and copper, and a quake enchantment. What? Anyone do testing on pickpocket?

[marble pier]

Pickpocket is essentially random loot table afaik

[teal parrot]

Ok, the fact that the trickster minor card is active might have something to do with it. Didn't notice that

[marble pier]

🤷 How two weird resource generators interact, I cannot say heh

[teal parrot]

It's an interesting combo I never would have thought to check. I'll play around with it and see what I get

[frank smelt]

i didn't see that someone answered (but dint look real hard) this is a known issue and cant be completed yet..

[split axle]

That is a normal drop from pickpocket.
It can drop seemingly any resource or refined material up to tier 3, have never seen anything t4 or t5 drop from using it.
The drops also seem to be unaffected by minor cards, but didn't do a lot of testing on that.

[fervent zealot]

i've had t4 before, i stopped using it, so much clutter. good for farming spells and charms though

t4 titania's crown

[split axle]

Ah I played around with it for 2 days to see what kind of items it gives you but never saw any T4 stuff, must have been unlucky or just missed it I guess.
And yeah shame how most items you get from it aren't worth using..

[fervent zealot]

i dont know, its nice to have spare spells.

some are pretty annoying to make

[split axle]

Yeah the extra charms and spells are nice, but all the refined materials are less nice and it gets annoying to extract them pretty fast lol

[fervent zealot]

yep

be nice if it just gave you more of what you are cutting

[split axle]

Yeah that's why I started playing with it, to see if it would help at all with fabled harpy farming

[fervent zealot]

that was me for fabled carnute

hehe

[teal parrot]

Right here with you for T4 hollow metal. I am sensing a trend

[fervent zealot]

Is there better thread/fibre than grendel druid t4 thread for Magick?

[frank smelt]

AFAIK there isn't anything Better for raw magic, as thread

[fervent zealot]

ty

so no advanced or fabled?

i know there is fabled grendel ive got some of that

[frank smelt]

not sure on that one sorry.

[fervent zealot]

its fine thanks

[marble pier]

Fabled Grendel (which comes from Brutes) is still below Grendel Druid for magick fibre values, if you're -only- going for magick. It's still a great fibre, but comparably for the rarity, it's less useful since its rarer and less directly beneficial.

Apologies, I missed this one, @frank smelt
I made a AHA report awhile ago for this very issue when I first noticed it:
https://playnightingale.ideas.aha.io/ideas/RRFEEDBACK-I-368

[split axle]

So I have spent 3 days hunting for Sanguineberries now.
I have cleared 4 non-ascended desert herbariums.
I fully cleared Gloriana's Tears twice, and checked every single POI on it's map.
And I cleared 11 Ascended desert herbariums on Explorer difficulty, and found none.
Then I opened an ascended herbarium on Balanced difficulty and found several bushes instantly, seems like they grow at every POI on this difficulty.
So their spawns seems to be tied to difficulty, I am also seeing other plants at POIs that don't grow at them on the Explorer difficulty.

[marble pier]

Weird, I know some of biome and major card specific, but they shouldn't be difficulty tied. I'd report those since that seems at odds to the way things should function nowadays

[split axle]

Yeah I'm taking a lap around this map to check how many there are.
So far there is at least 1 bush at every POI, so something seems to be very off about their spawning.

On explorer these only yield crude fibers, but on Balanced they give sanguineberries.
Yeah there is something broken here, time for a report

[fervent zealot]

yeah i knew that, i was just making the point that their IS a fabled grendel, not that i wanted fabled grendel, i was thinking that because there is fabled grendel there might be fabled grendel druid.

[marble pier]

No ones found it yet, I know a couple people atm hard farming them to see if it drops, and I've had my share of going after 'em too without any fabled drop

[cosmic mantle]

You checked the font of secrecy? I find my bushes there

I set my Glorianas Tears to balanced and found them

But I've never seen snapdragon

This might need to be verified, but I think snapdragon appears very often for some and rarely for others, while sanguineberries are the vice versa

I tried to help someone with sanguineberries before and this is what happened too. I even reset my realm and went back to it, found the location of the berries and screenshotted the exact location on the map, yet the player couldn't find them

It was very odd

[split axle]

Yeah I cleared every POI and all 4 fonts twice, but on Explorer.
It seems they simply do not spawn in the realm if you start it up on Explorer difficulty.
I haven't gone back to Gloriana's to check there but in Herbariums I only got berries when I started them on Balanced or higher

[frank smelt]

Good afternoon Realmwalkers! Anybody have tips on finding Einaidia. Just cant seem to get much of it, spent the better part of the last two days looking and only have 15 ingots to speak for

[cursive talon]

Cradle always has some.

[fervent zealot]

@marble pier ever seen this?

[marble pier]

I have not, actually, no. I did know clay existed in the codings, it's never been found though. I'm assuming that's from a dragon's hoard card?

[marble pier]

What can it be used for, if anything?

I might need to start doing some hoard card roamings now

The fact it also has some stats is very interesting

[fervent zealot]

got it from destroying everything at 1st site of power [Jabberwock] it was with a bunch of people we are not sure who or where we picked it up

[sacred yew]

I wonder if there are new boss-related mats? I remember...Immutile? Ore from ||Sheliak's ||pillars

[rose valve]

How much does the Ghost card increase resources? Is it worth it instead of Forge if you're on a hunt for Noble Hollow or Noble Bismuth?

[marble pier]

+50% from all instead of Forge's +100% from only ores

The individual specific resource cards are the best choice for those specific resources

[rose valve]

Thanks!

[rose valve]

Another question... for follower gear, do any stats matter except for max health and either melee or ranged damage?

[marble pier]

They all apply, except critical

Followers can't crit as they don't "aim" wierdly enough

[rose valve]

Huh, interesting! TY!

[slate shore]

well stamina and durability also dont matter right?

[marble pier]

That would be true, yes

They do apply, they just don't matter, heh

Same as how ammunition doesn't matter, which always makes me sads

[left river]

it was from Kloka Anna's house, one of the furniture drops it 🙂

(did destroy it a few times but didn't find which one)

[marble pier]

Hrm, interesting, must be one of the non-usable augments

[split axle]

Interesting, I always demolish everything on the first floor of her house and never seen any new resources drop from them, must be something on the upper floor that it comes from

[split axle]

I just demolished Kloka Annas entire settlement and did not find any, so looks like it comes from somewhere else

[marble pier]

Another mystery item lol

[split axle]

Going to go clear the site of power in a bit to see if it comes from something in there

[left river]

try again it doesn't drop every time

destroyed it 5times got one

[split axle]

Might reset and check again after I do the site of power, not a lot of things in Annas house that could drop it though.
Unless it's a low % drop from the junk pile or something

[left river]

not the junk it's something else

[marble pier]

Is there a container there, not the pepys but like a normal chest/bag/etc?

It could've been a fully random rare loot bloop?

[split axle]

Just 1 angler basket, had fish and coal in it for me