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twin egret
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Hopefully they add some tags to materials in the future for this ๐Ÿ˜›

low plaza
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in feel too?

wary compass
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definitely

chrome oasis
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Oh yeah. I felt a huge difference moving up from simple umbrella to mistic. All my testing though was between two different mystic umbrellas and an empty offhand

low plaza
chrome oasis
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All walking/running speeds were identical. The mystic umbrellas had 60 (legit) and 120 (recursive) speed stat. Their flying speed was identical. I'd have to redo and record to have actual speed numbers for you though.

low plaza
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the F-worded ingots?

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xD

chrome oasis
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Yeah reclaim loop

low plaza
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aight ty for info

low plaza
chrome oasis
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No. It's related to the umbrella. And maybe the gear score bug

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Made a backpack and it makes me zooooooom

low plaza
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my todays concern is whether its even worth to invest in MS stat without reclaim loop since its base numbers are so low

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and harpy vs jana results in measly +3.5% ms

languid basalt
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Just remember about stacking. they did say this today

low plaza
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i dont really believe they have means to retrospectively nerf stacked items

chrome oasis
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I don't know. My backpack was reclaimed a lot specifically to test if there was a cap.

low plaza
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but i dont care either way. all i care is how much 3.5% ms actually is

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well lets try my 3.8 backpack vs 0 backpack xd

chrome oasis
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I feel like any move speed you can get is good, because we spend so much time running and searching

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At least until you fall into vault spam hell

languid basalt
chrome oasis
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Also move speed affects your 1h weapon dash speed

wary compass
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OK, there's a max flying speed of 600 which Mystic's baseline 25% bonus already reaches, so move speed has effect for lower tier umbrellas but not endgame.

low plaza
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ok time to farm those godforsaken t3 harpies

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(if i find any ffs)

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where is a table about realm powers and difficulties?

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im running our of blue essence, so maybe i can go somewhere like normal Hunt extreme and get those 150+

languid basalt
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not sure you will run into t3 in norms but i could be mistaken

wary compass
wary compass
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If you want T1, Provisioner Extreme

low plaza
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i just want to do T2 essence while looking for T3 harpys

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lets try gloom extreme

wary compass
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If it gets you to 160 then you're good!

low plaza
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i wonder if extreme is just +120 or is it +120%

wary compass
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it's percentage

low plaza
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fk its 140

twin egret
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Is there a dauntless spyglass?

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or only Mystic

tight cape
twin egret
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Ok Mystic Umbrella... I thought I'd get a white version because I was using Jana..

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๐Ÿค”

low plaza
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how do u farm harpys from humbaba/jana?

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they just fkin despawn

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without chance to skin them

twin egret
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honestly, I can't remember if I had that problem

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Are you letting Humbaba live so you can fight them and skin them?

low plaza
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yes i kill harpys before killing humbaba

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they disappear just like that

wary compass
# twin egret

I got that same vivid aqua from Khepri cloth. It's not the default for the umbrella, though - a crude fiber version looks much tamer.

twin egret
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Yeah, that's so weird.

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I've seen people with that fiber mesh looking version, so I figured Jana would make a whiter version.

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Guess I'm making the Dauntless version instead.

wary compass
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Knowing about the flight speed cap the Dauntless is probably a better play anyway

twin egret
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What's flight speed cap?

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Ah crud, I ran out of advanced hollow metal. ๐Ÿ˜

wary compass
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There's a flight speed cap of 600 and the Mystic's native 25% speed gets you to the cap already with no material boosts. So the Dauntless 15% plus a little help from mats will get you just as fast as the Mystic, plus better resists.

twin egret
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Do we know how the Charm of the Wind affects that?

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dang it, now the dauntless one came out red

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what is going on~

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I just want a white umbrellaaaa

wary compass
twin egret
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Good to know~

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Don't suppose you know a sure fire way to get a white umbrella lmao

wary compass
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lol no, colors are the true endgame

twin egret
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I'm about to just put everything crude and just jana be the only difference

low plaza
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i give up, these harpys just dont leave corpses

twin egret
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welp

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that didnt work

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ok the umbrella is still red

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I'm lost

prime fern
twin egret
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If anyone finds out how to make a white umbrella, I will love you forever.

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Is Pursuit a T4 ore?

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Why is this gun so low level D:

prime fern
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PURSUIT IS T3

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damn caps

twin egret
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oh damn

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I don't think I have einadia

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@prime fern How do you know which item is what tier? Is that onthe spreadsheet?

prime fern
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it is, but gs requirement is the tier

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100 gs to mine is t3, t4 is 200, t5 is 230

twin egret
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Gottt itt.

thorn crescent
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what armor are u guys wearing for range dmg

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or does it not matter

prime fern
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only cap and gloves matter

thorn crescent
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so which one gives more

twin egret
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Anyone know where to find Star Ruby?

prime fern
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primarily desert POIs. should be the red gem tree

chrome oasis
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its a desert t5. red gems growin on a twisted tree

twin egret
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Thank you

chrome oasis
thorn crescent
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anyone have spare t3 fabled harpy

prime fern
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man, super heart and everything. you must really wanted that info lol

twin egret
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A visual is always appreciated. ๐Ÿ™‚

prime fern
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1 more jana run, then I can make my pants and get the rifle

chrome oasis
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law did yall ever get abalonite added to the sheet?

prime fern
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doesn't look like it, how far up is it

chrome oasis
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#1212256452249657505 message

low plaza
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could that be that harpys just dont spawn naturally at 160+?

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i ran like several realms and havent met one

prime fern
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theharpy's could be a carve only rare drop

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jana public the harpy's aren't named like the sun giant rooks

low plaza
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what does it mean

prime fern
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as in, only from carving the basic creature

low plaza
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carving mean looting corpse or what

prime fern
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YES, THAT

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damn capslock again

low plaza
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well i cant look corpse if i dont meet any living ones

prime fern
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try a...

low plaza
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and those spawned by humbaba/jana just perish on me

prime fern
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try herbarium

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I know they're in the mid tiers somewhere. gloom and hunt have the galumph and bandersnatches

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is there a card the increases meat>fiber ratio?

low plaza
twin egret
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Anyone know if Star Ruby spawns moreso in a specific type of realm (I know it's Desert T5, but astrolabe vs herbarium vs provisioner vs antiquarian)?

prime fern
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they're from POI generation, they can show up in any RP

twin egret
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ah

prime fern
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I had some in desert abeyance

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I think I'm going to need to get some titans fingernail...

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to gild the lumber for my rifle lol

twin egret
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Do you guys prefer Einadia guns or Pursuit guns? ๐Ÿค”

prime fern
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you can gild with einaidia...

twin egret
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Indeed

prime fern
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I didn't know that

twin egret
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Any ingot

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You may gild

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๐Ÿ˜‰

prime fern
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I thought it was only preciousa

twin egret
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โŒ

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so what I'm feeling here is you're preferring Einadia :p

prime fern
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well damn, good to know

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einadia doesn't have the crit damage, but it does have more raw damage

twin egret
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Yeah

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What does Einadia look like in the wild?

prime fern
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you get it from basically every forest POI outside of the mushroom one that's a food

twin egret
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T5 forest yeah?

chrome oasis
prime fern
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any forest

twin egret
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oh

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oh wait I think there's some near my abeyance then

chrome oasis
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mostlikely

twin egret
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๐Ÿƒโ€โ™‚๏ธ

chrome oasis
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i'm betting this one will be the "real" einaidia once the rest of the forest 230 poi's get added in.

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since it got like a purple color when you use it on a weapon

twin egret
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I ahve this, but it isn't mineable ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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This pillar bamboozled me.

prime fern
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there's more on top

twin egret
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I gotta climb the bastard?

prime fern
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yeeeep

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I usually go grab a soaring

low plaza
prime fern
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iirc, in water near POIs

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like the broken buildings

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they'll follow you around once you find them, and they're nuetral

thorn crescent
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whats the best minor cards to craft range weapons and a minar card for gear

twin egret
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Can you add the same infusion if its in different Tiers?

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Or absolutely no same infusions?

thorn crescent
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no same

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only 1

prime fern
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^

twin egret
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Any interesting Charms to put on travel tools (Climbing Picks or Umbrella)?

prime fern
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Maleficium resist? is that Miasma??

chrome oasis
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i think so?

prime fern
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could be similar to ice resist, something just not fully implemented yet

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it is miasma

twin egret
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there was 3 whole ore at the top

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I have been bamboozled

chrome oasis
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nice

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it is pretty sparse, esp on the red pillar. there are likely to be acouple more pillars in the realm though

twin egret
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I feel like I need to pop a minor card to get more ore

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cause getting 1 ore is crazyyy

prime fern
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I don't think there is one for regular mining

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yooo I found a wild humbaba

twin egret
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I have yet to see a wild humbaba

prime fern
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it's dead now

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that's hella detailed

twin egret
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Law, that is the creepiest photo

prime fern
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lol

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eye see you

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he ran more than fought

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the trees he dropped did more damage to me than he did ๐Ÿคฃ

twin egret
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Dunno if this is on the spreadsheet

chrome oasis
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i think that is food

prime fern
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it's food, so no lol

chrome oasis
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lmao

twin egret
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delish

chrome oasis
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rocks for dinner

twin egret
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cronchy

prime fern
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pants are DOOONE

twin egret
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first we had rocks for dinner

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now we have boogers for dinner

prime fern
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we're moving up in the realms

twin egret
prime fern
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lmao

twin egret
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surprisingly it has to be mined???

prime fern
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yeah there's some things that don't make much sense. like that dulcet lapis being mined

chrome oasis
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and the hoe flies

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blueberry bugs that live on trees that you need a nuclear pickaxe to mine off the tree

twin egret
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They need to add a rare spawn to the end of rainbows

chrome oasis
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that reminds me. i need to try and get on an airship

twin egret
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o my

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good luck

low plaza
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so, i just traded T3 herpy, i gave up

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-200 hp for 9% movespeed hmmmm

twin egret
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Is the minor card for more ingots the Forge?

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Or is it Settler

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Brain not work no good

prime fern
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forge gives double the ingots

chrome oasis
# twin egret good luck

shouldnt be too bad. I just gotta get juiced up gazpacho and strap on my ludicrous speed reclaimed pack, then fly off a mountain

prime fern
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wait no hold

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industry gives double ingots

latent python
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I always use Settler Apogean

twin egret
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industry?

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crap I don't think I have an industry

latent python
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This is with Settler Apogean

prime fern
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forge increases ore yeild, reduces time to refine, and improves quality

twin egret
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dang it law, I couldve used Forge for Enaidia farming

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๐Ÿ’ข

prime fern
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I should flip my abeyance to forge for the gun making...

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I DIDN'T KNOWWW

twin egret
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JAIL

prime fern
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I haven't used the minor cards all that much ๐Ÿคฃ

prime fern
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yep, I put that on my swamp antiquarian

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came back with about 500 normal wood from what was just around the portal

twin egret
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If that's what you're going for, I'd say sure. It depends on what you're min maxing, if you're min maxing.

prime fern
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anyone have the winchester rifle that can tell me what the actual base damage is?

twin egret
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But otherwise, there's no boost a minor card gives that is going to like "make or break" a build.

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You can get OP gear without any minor card.

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Minor cards just give you that inch ahead of everything.

prime fern
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or should I make a sacrificial rifle

twin egret
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๐Ÿ“ฃ

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Sacrificial Rifle

prime fern
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sacrifice it is

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making a full pursuit one just in case that would end up being better anyway ๐Ÿคฃ

low plaza
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ok going Harpy on the pack is really not worth it

prime fern
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for 1.3% movespeed? I agree

twin egret
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Hmm

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Let me just say - I love long rest.

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I love long rest SO much.

prime fern
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okay so, base stats of the winchester;

ranged damage 235
strength 20
critical damage 2.2
magick power 15
melee damage 5```
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full einaidia gives 230% ranged damage, pursuit gives 200 (with swamp wood gilded) and 45% crit damage...

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on crit pursuit barely pulls ahead of einaidia; 1359.6 vs 1243.15 base crit

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aaaaand I forgot to use forge card on this sacrificial rifle..

twin egret
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rip

prime fern
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I guess it works out because now we can see how much better forge makes the same items

twin egret
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I see Fossilized Ichor on the spreadssheet, attached to Gilded Lumber for drops from "Bound on a Cross"

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But does Fossilized Ichor drop separately?

prime fern
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๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

twin egret
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๐Ÿค”

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Does anyone have the item? Wannted to see if it has an icon

prime fern
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same as the gem, one sec

twin egret
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aaaah it's a gemmm

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interesting

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So can we gild lumber manually with gems too?

latent python
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No

prime fern
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we can't I don't think

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I think it's just that specific drop that allows it

twin egret
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very interesting

prime fern
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also, the forge card is negligable increase on crafted weapons ๐Ÿคฃ

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like .5%, I'll have the math in a second

latent python
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I think guns are slightly bugged somehow

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The higest I was able to get one that is basically full ein is 227

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where other stuff you can get into the 280s

prime fern
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it's 2% if my math is right. 101.94% better with forge card, but the game rounds the stats

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and it only affects damage; ranged and melee

twin egret
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Anyone have like.. 10 advanced yew by any chance?

latent python
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I might?

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Let me check

prime fern
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10's a lot

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I have 1 ๐Ÿคฃ

twin egret
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I also have 1 lmao

latent python
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lol I do solo extreme desert vault sometimes

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I have 6

twin egret
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let me check how much I need exactly 1 sec

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I'd need 8. Poop.

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Law, how attached are you to yours

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๐Ÿ™‚

twin egret
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Not regular wood

latent python
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yeah

twin egret
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My brain hurts when I';m converting not-on-paper.

latent python
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You can't get it as wood

prime fern
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well my winchester hits for 13k, and my hat/gloves are specced for melee

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so correct specs on hat/gloves should hit 60k without any specifics like with charms/cards/boosts

twin egret
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Screenshot of the rifle?

prime fern
twin egret
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@latent python I messaged you, if you're willing to trade it.

prime fern
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I have 27%+18% ranged damage on my armor right now

twin egret
# prime fern

How'd you get Ranged Damage bonus on the Physickal part?

prime fern
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the forge card I think

twin egret
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huh

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interesting

prime fern
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it's only +2% if my math is right

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OH YEAH. that's base rifle cartridges, not lighting. lemme test that rq

twin egret
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And what's your magic power

prime fern
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WITH THE RIFLE, 100.6

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damn capslock again

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12k with lightning

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๐Ÿค”

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12-13k with fire too...

twin egret
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headshot?

prime fern
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yeah

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exact same with ice

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I don't think the round modifiers are applying correctly

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ice and fire should have been +50% damage to lightning, but they were the exact same damage on all 3

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gunna go test on sun giant

twin egret
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Should I go +Melee or +Magic on my Maul

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๐Ÿค”

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I feel like magic isn't really necessary, since it's capped still.

prime fern
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depends on what you're using for enchantments

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maul is really slow, so I prefer more magick for rejuvination

twin egret
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Probably just gonna throw Quake on it just for the AoE stun

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So I can just slap wildly.

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Damn it, I need to farm T1/T2 ess.

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Poop.

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Any suggestions for easy T1/T2 essence farms?

prime fern
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reset a realm, hit the fae tower, then the fae portal

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should be about 3-400 per

twin egret
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What realm power for T1 & T2?

latent python
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power doesn't matter, its the major that determines it

twin egret
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ah

latent python
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antiquarian/astrolabe/provisioner for t1

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herb/gloom/hunt for t2

twin egret
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I havent been back to those in so long I just didn't remember

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ty

latent python
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but if you do them on extreme, you'll get more essence

prime fern
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27k on sun giant with basic

latent python
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Is there any higher levels of the marksman card in the game yet or just the base level one

twin egret
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Not that I knoww of

prime fern
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well found a use for all the bound bristle I have

twin egret
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extract?

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๐Ÿ™‚

prime fern
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making the fishing trap so I cna make the refined fishing pole ๐Ÿคฃ

latent python
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Settler Apogean

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vs marksman

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There's no difference to the amount of ammo it makes lol

prime fern
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marksman is for damage

latent python
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Card is a liar

prime fern
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forge increase amount of ammo

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oh, it's supposed to? XD

latent python
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"Yield when crafting rifle ammo"

prime fern
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alr then. can confirm the forge card doubles ammo output

latent python
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so glad I just made 40 marksman cards

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๐Ÿ˜‚

prime fern
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I am dissapointed in the fishing

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upgraded my fishing pole from 80-164, went to asc forest and still only getting lv10 and lv30 fish

latent python
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I should do some fishing testing

prime fern
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hold pls

latent python
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wtf

prime fern
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I am the dumb

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I have industry active, not forge ๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

fickle compass
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at what stage would extreme vault be doable solo?
dauntless axe better than mystic axe with quake against groups of bound?

latent python
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I use quake to keep everything stunned

prime fern
latent python
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and just go in swinging

prime fern
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extreme fault, I would say as long as you have a maxed weapon and 2 or 3 armors you should be okay with bringing potions

latent python
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The only annoying part is the boss because they have SO much health.

prime fern
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I had to solo public jana/sungiant a couple times and that's all I have

latent python
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public is only level 100

prime fern
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yeah, but it was easy doing public solo. Jana I never took damage, sun giant you just have to dodge the stomp

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question was doable, not easy ๐Ÿ˜›

latent python
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public sun giant, my gun crits stagger him, so he never gets an attack off

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lol

prime fern
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I just take out his knees

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this is the armor I'm working with right now too ๐Ÿคฃ

latent python
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eh, its easier with a gun. My crits hit for 40-50k (the charm that increases your damage with each shot)

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no dodging, he can't summon his adds

prime fern
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ooo I should that on

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I forgot about that one

latent python
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Its just shoot, wait for his stagger animation to finish so I can easily hit his crit spot again, repeat

brazen axle
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another card good for ammo / ingots

prime fern
# brazen axle

yeah I forgot which card I had active when I mentioned it

latent python
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Forge doesn't double

brazen axle
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thats not forge

prime fern
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I have industry active not forge

brazen axle
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its industry

latent python
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I know, he originally said forge is what I'm saying

brazen axle
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gotcha

latent python
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I'm making some industry cards now

prime fern
latent python
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Steadiness I think

prime fern
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sweet, thanks

twin egret
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is the order for t2 herb->hunt->gloom?

latent python
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its weird, I have to play the minor cards twice for them to take effect

latent python
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50/60/70

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see, played it the first time, nothing happened

prime fern
latent python
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play it the second time, it takes effect

prime fern
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oof

latent python
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finally

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now I need to go farm T1 so I can buy more gunpowder lol

prime fern
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alr time to test something...

brazen axle
# latent python finally

You can find an intelligence puzzle and fail over and over to get the gunpowder guys to spawn infinitely

prime fern
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you cna't use durable cloth in the cloth slot of druidic hat... wat

brazen axle
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Playing a card that makes the bound drop extra speeds it up

latent python
prime fern
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kinda wish you could turn wood into fibre

twin egret
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does anyone have a list on what infusions/charms can go on what gear

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nvm found it

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Doesn't have charms but that's much easier.

latent python
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Infusions only work on gear that has the stat you're trying to infuse on it

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you can't infuse a stat that doesn't exist

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there's no need for a "list" lol

twin egret
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I have a bug that doesn't show the actual buff the infusion provides

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it used to say like.. uhh the name of the infusion and then in parentheses it says what it's actually buffing

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I don't have the parentheses stuff anymore

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And the description cant be read

latent python
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weird

twin egret
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Yeah, it's fun times in bug land for me. But I deal.

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Tis why I need the spreadsheet for now.

boreal bridge
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You can grow wheat, chamomile, marigold, and sunflower and thatโ€™s it. For wheat you have to turn the wheat into seeds at a farm card and harvest with a greenhouse card

twin egret
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Establish a farm on an Herbarium realm.

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I hear that helps.

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Herbarium Realm + Farm minor card.

candid bloom
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a lot of pain for meh result

twin egret
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valid

latent python
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I don't know why I even bother to loot lotus chests anymore lol

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I have around 300 of them in a chest

twin egret
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I hope they invent something for us to use it on more often.

low plaza
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is there a list of really good charms and enchantments?

twin egret
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I was thinking of a dye system for armor that uses the lotus. ๐Ÿ˜›

latent python
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Ok, I'm gonna test out some fishing

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gonna go to an extreme ascended

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I wanna see if level 30 is just the highest level fish lol

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Oh, I was wrong, I have 430 lotus lol

twin egret
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Wow, making Charms is really annoying.

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LOL

latent python
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so yeah, I think level 30 is just the highest level fish you'll find. I'm in an ascended hunt swamp on extreme with an angler card, still level 30 (but at least angler means 2 fish per catch)

woven sigil
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About to make my axe, whose melee Axe build is better?

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Law's got the strength one right. I kinda like that, but anyone have better straight melee stats they want to show off?

latent python
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my axe looks the same as his

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The nice thing, with this fishing rod, I don't have to pay attention to the tension bar at all, I just hold down reel in and it catches the fish in a few seconds lol

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I just noticed it when I was looking to see what fish they have listed

prime fern
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Ours is better ๐Ÿ˜›

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They dont have tiers

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And missing Jana

latent python
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Ahh yeah I do see that tiers are missing now

prime fern
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I think sushi dmd me that the other day

latent python
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I wonder if whoever runs that is on the discord

prime fern
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We do need berl, ribbon, and sepelwood though

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Coal and sulphur apprently arent ores... NoAnimated

latent python
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stupid fabled widow spider decided to attack me while fishing lol

woven sigil
prime fern
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Yeah. Theyre in the glossary but I havent seen them

latent python
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I'm 99% sure all their info on that site is from datamining, because they also have stuff that isn't in the game

prime fern
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Like what?

latent python
prime fern
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Interesting...

latent python
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Stuff like that

prime fern
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I wonder if they had beta playtest access

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Maybe Ill take a look at the datafiles later

latent python
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Tags: Never Drop

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lol

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and especially since their gear shows the raw base stats without any material boosts, it has to be from datamining

prime fern
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Ye, Ill take a look at the cabs later and see if I can dig it up. I assumed that everything was serverside so datamining would have been useless local

latent python
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So actually, knowing the base stats of gear, and then the modifier that every single material would give that you can use for it

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you could actually build a gear calc

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for maximum minmax

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lol

prime fern
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Resources v3; gear calculator

woven sigil
#

so convenient to just buy wood whenever I want

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One of the best Survival crafting QOL changes imo

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You've been using industry right, Law?

prime fern
#

Si

woven sigil
#

@flint abyss can you edit your original message to state the updated materials needed?

woven sigil
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It's a game no worries bro

woven sigil
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I don't think advanced bombardier is actually a thing. Bombardier is probably the advanced form of Kyrosiphon

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I've been farming for HOURS and I have 0

twin egret
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Where does one get Halite (salt)?

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Is it plentiful or is it found in specific places?

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realm power has to be less than 90?

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hmmmm

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I have been in this realm for abit now

boreal bridge
#

I think I ran provisioner desert hard and got a decent amount of it. Not sure which minor card gets you more of because normally only get 5 per node

twin egret
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and I have not found any halite

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LOL

boreal bridge
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Are you ascended or regular version

twin egret
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regular

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I put it on easy

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Desert Provisioner

boreal bridge
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Might be too low level

twin egret
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wait you only get 1 salt per ore?

boreal bridge
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5

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At least for me

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Idk why I typed one maybe I had a stroke

twin egret
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Meh, I'll try something a lil more high level then.

boreal bridge
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I donโ€™t think the level increases yields just what spawns.

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If youโ€™re not finding any definitely crank it

prime fern
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Bah, data files are in .pak... haven't decompiled these since monster hunter world

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time for some fun then

twin egret
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Ok I'm in a realm power 70 desert and

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Nothing yeeet, gonna keep runnin'

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fooound itttt

prime fern
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yeah it's gunna be like 45 minutes before I get all my old tools installed ๐Ÿคฃ

woven sigil
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Is it really better to mix pellucidic and sun giant here?

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Wouldn't I be sacrificing Melee damage, or is there something I don't know?

prime fern
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I only used 1 or 2 sun giant in the whole thing, 60% magick power on the druidic was about +50 magick. Aftershock and Quake both have multiple attacks to offset the damage loss and cast time since the axe can only reliable hit 1 or 2 at a time

woven sigil
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Hmmm. I have arborist's shield, so I'm going to build full melee here first

prime fern
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and it also increases regen with rejuvination

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at 150 magic I heal about 1300

woven sigil
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If I feel it's weaker, then I'll make another I guess

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Oh shoot I forgot to use forge card

prime fern
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mine wasn't done with forge either lol

woven sigil
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I already made the blade does it matter

proud pulsar
prime fern
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and I didn't use advanced yew gilded w/ pellucidic, and only T2 predator. I have to remake that axe at some point, but it's good enough for now

woven sigil
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I want to make it right the first time, I'm switching the card to forge and remaking the blade just in case

prime fern
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onyl matters on the final product, and forge adds 2% to damages

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I saw 0 difference making my rifle with forge active for the components

woven sigil
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I'm going to do a test with Forge card real quick. I'm going to use the most expensive mats I can to make one and see if the percentage is different.

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I highly doubt it

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BUT

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I'm willing to make sure

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Huh, did you know refined pigment could be made from jana meat?

prime fern
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I didn't

woven sigil
prime fern
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they missed some anyway ๐Ÿคฃ

woven sigil
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First step

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Using Melee-based items in hopes that I can see an obvious effect

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@prime fern is there a better gunpowder than Sulfur?

prime fern
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not that I'm aware of

woven sigil
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Nevermind it has only two ingredients, sulfur and coal

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Unless something else counts as sulfur, its probably a no

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Step 2

prime fern
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YOOOO

woven sigil
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Ah, you can only use vibrant ink, not lustrous ink. Nice

prime fern
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I found realmcard data

woven sigil
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Okay well i made the foil and lustrous ink for nothing

prime fern
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was worth a try

woven sigil
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Other recipes let you use better mats so I assumed so would these

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Apparently not, probably a bug

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Ok starting the axe now. Going full pellucidic

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I might put one sun giant ingot in

honest surge
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Did you guys figure out the best realm setup for salt farming?

woven sigil
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Hm, Bronze or Steel ingot...

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I'll go steel

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wait no

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I'm going bronze

brazen axle
brazen axle
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oooor, buy it

woven sigil
#

Can you use a Forged handle as a handle?

honest surge
woven sigil
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Rip

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Tier 4 Forest wood for Handle I guess?

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Although I could use Fabled Elder Eoten

boreal bridge
woven sigil
#

I'm going to try fabled elder eoten

boreal bridge
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Wood?

prime fern
#

yours will be better than mine, I was missing mats at the time but needed it to get into the next tiers

woven sigil
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The Handle can't use Gilded Lumber

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Because you need to make a pole

prime fern
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I've turned gilded into pole sbefore

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I did it with the rifle

woven sigil
woven sigil
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Oh I figured it out

prime fern
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maybe elder eoten can't be gilded? ๐Ÿค”

woven sigil
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Visual bug on my end

prime fern
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ah

woven sigil
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Gotta remake fasteners now yay

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Not me wasting tons of materials lol

prime fern
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totally fine lol

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datamining ahoooy

woven sigil
#

That's better

prime fern
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much

woven sigil
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Did you use full Jana for the wrap

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Oh nvm, probably beelzeboar

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Well I guess I gotta go out before finishing this thing

prime fern
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the wrap I used t2 pred

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I didn't have anything else ๐Ÿคฃ

woven sigil
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Ok but no

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Be real here HAHA

prime fern
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okay but yeah, I actually used regular lumber and t2 pred on the wrap

woven sigil
#

That's wild, and it's still a 286?

prime fern
#

yep

woven sigil
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one sec lemme scrol lup

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yeah wtf 286

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Gloom Forest Asc 220 for Mohg, good to know

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I only have one hunter eminent card. Rip

manic bear
#

can someone tell me what a tier 3 forest tree looks like?
Been trying to find one for ages :v

prime fern
#

blue pine

manic bear
#

somehow there wasnt a single blue pine in the forest for me XD
Might need to play one of the minor cards i guess

prime fern
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gloom and hunt will have the most T3

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anything below that it's pretty rare to see a T3

manic bear
#

i am in gloom forest. Could find T3 in gloom swamp but not forest.

prime fern
#

alr taking a break and going to play some with the group

rustic swift
#

Just wondering if any of you know what materials would be the best to use to get the highest Gear Score Level and Stats for the Druidic Set?

prime fern
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gear score doesn't matter, but to answer your question, full jana would probably be the highest

rustic swift
#

Doesn't gear score not help with extreme difficulty in Ascended Realms?

honest surge
#

Gear Score doesn't improve the stats, it just represents the total stat values of mats involved. If you want to target the stat you just need to make sure to get more % on that stat

prime fern
#

I did some testing, and it doesn't appear gearscore of your character changes anything about damage from others

rustic swift
#

So what about the Cloth and things like that what would be the best to use on this set?

prime fern
#

higher realm will just have naturally higher damage

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this is my set I'm working on, it's not complete yet and haven't decided on all the mats yet but

honest surge
prime fern
rustic swift
#

Mostly HP to help with extreme

prime fern
#

these are the stats available to druidic

honest surge
#

forest fiber has most HP

rustic swift
#

And whats the highest tier you can get for the Fibre and Hide mats?

honest surge
prime fern
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T5 fiber, T3 meats. Jana is T4 iirc

honest surge
#

But make sure to read stats on t4 and 5 of the same material

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they do not always boost in the same stats

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Some t4 stuff might have higher one stat, and then t5 version will flip it

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so in some cases just look for best stat you are targeting

woven sigil
wary compass
woven sigil
#

Just from one of these things

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Hunter eminent card op

languid basalt
#

afernoon

honest surge
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@rustic swift see the difference, so tier doesnt dictate best stat.

languid basalt
#

@prime fern if you have not gotten around to it things where posted around โ€” Yesterday at 10:49 PM for the sheet by a few people

#1212256452249657505 message
#1212256452249657505 message
#1212256452249657505 message
#1212256452249657505 message

prime fern
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already had most of them, but added the hippo

languid basalt
#

gotcha

woven sigil
#

So the bismuth deposit it went to (the black-colored Einadia) had 5 ore deposits below, 5 above, 2 on the first of three higher pillars, 2 on the second highest pillar, and 6 on the very tallest pillar.

For a total of 20 Einadia per bismuth rock formation.

I've only seen one type of black bismuth formation before, not sure if it generates other ways.

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I've seen 3 of them but they were all the same, just clarifying

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It's very difficult to get to the top of the three pillars, but if you dash with climbing picks and grab the right spot you won't fall down

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There's no need for a favor of soaring

wary compass
#

If you have trouble climbing just build some stairs

woven sigil
woven sigil
#

I stayed out too late and didn't realize it had turned night time. On a good note, I found out that you can stand on top of the rock formations and enemies won't spawn

low plaza
#

striking Peacoat with Jana changes only collar color, and stays mostly green

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also Explorer's hat seems to always be white, its made with fabled t3 boar, like gloves that turned dark

rustic swift
#

@honest surge Ah ok, i will have to check carefully then when i craft the set

woven sigil
#

Is anyone else having trouble farming fabled enemies? I'm in a gloom forest and my Track Legend Spell isn't doing anything. I'm guessing that I killed every fabled creature in the realm, but do they respawn or not? I thought so

low plaza
woven sigil
honest surge
woven sigil
#

I was specifically looking for Mohg but ty

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Hunt doesn't spawn Mohg

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I'll try provisioner

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Anyone know who this is

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If I had to guess, it'd be some sort of Fabled Eoten

brazen axle
woven sigil
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It's a forest biome

brazen axle
#

you can see them on the map

woven sigil
brazen axle
#

i remember seeing a blot, but for the life of me i cant recall which it is

honest surge
brazen axle
woven sigil
#

It might be a set number per realm then

brazen axle
#

i was doing provisioner ascended for the piggy

woven sigil
#

Not based on type, but based on generation?

low plaza
brazen axle
low plaza
#

but only one at a time and usually in the different corner of the map

languid basalt
#

The map only shows predator fables.

brazen axle
#

map shows deer

brazen axle
low plaza
#

btw, Combatant Workshow says it makes tools with reduced yield
but the stat description doesnt mention any Yield-- debuff
is it really there?

languid basalt
#

hmm i found good amount with out them showing on the map so hard to say then

low plaza
#

the yield debuff i mean

brazen axle
#

it may be there just not showing

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it may not be working yet

low plaza
#

so we dont know for sure?

woven sigil
#

lovely

low plaza
#

ok then i wont remake my axepick for combatant yet

woven sigil
#

Heh, this one is respawning fables. Nice

brazen axle
#

i need sight because im a shit3 shot

sleek fulcrum
#

so are harpy's only along the water in the swamp

honest surge
#

Wish that most of the end game creatures were not of the same ish color pattern - even with minor cards. All the forrest worlds just end up being light, purple yellow and all skins are the same. Hehe. Hope they will add more variety and ability to color the clothing and structures.

woven sigil
#

I plan to get rid of it soon

low plaza
sleek fulcrum
#

only in the ascended swamps

woven sigil
#

about to make my axe. Forge card, right? Let me double check but just wondering

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What about combatant's workshop?

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Hmmmm

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@prime fern here's my build
Martial Axe Head:
-Pellucidic
-1 Bronze Ingot for Alloy
Counter Balance:
-Pellucidic
Handle:
-Fabled Elder Eoten and Pellucidic
Grip:
-Fabled T3 Beelzeboar

Made with Forge Card with Grindstone Augment

languid basalt
#

Did you make that handle with gilded lumber?

woven sigil
languid basalt
#

good good

woven sigil
#

Does this look right or am I missing something

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Not doing magic build for this one

honest surge
#

oddly it doesnt show the stamina cost

woven sigil
#

I chose Fabled Eoten over T4 Forest BTW. I think either is viable

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Making it

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I'll pop it up to epic real quick and grab add-ons.

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This is my old axe btw lmaoo

honest surge
#

I made my Axepick mostly for harvesting, not combat but it works ok in it as well. Might make a combat pick though with that buff. THis one was made with Harvester's workshop buff. But the gathering rates are not implemented in this game at all I think.

woven sigil
#

Huh, I'm missing the infusion for melee damage one sec LOL

woven sigil
honest surge
#

I think at the moment all nodes have preset amount of material that they can produce. Quary card does not work and no matter the tool you have or buff you run you will stillget that same amount of ore or wood or stone.

woven sigil
#

I need to make dragon's hoard apogean cards because I need emerald and ruby for the future

wary compass
#

+yield does work on sickling though, at least some of the time. Greenhouse card really upped my fibre collection rate

honest surge
flint abyss
#

Checking sheet now to update post before I leave work.

woven sigil
#

Thanks!

honest surge
woven sigil
languid basalt
#

how much stam you running?

woven sigil
#

Yeah

honest surge
woven sigil
#

The only advantage I have is that I'm freaky fast

honest surge
#

Most of my gear I build around speed and stam usually ๐Ÿ˜›

languid basalt
#

once you get the shirt and pants it will help

flint abyss
#

Note: Unknown if anything was updated, been too busy to check and verify. Hopefully Law was keeping it up to date ๐Ÿ˜„

woven sigil
flint abyss
#

Pinned msg up to date with somewhat current DB search.

honest surge
#

Health is good in this game, but I think stam is king, if you can run and cast spells and dodge you are way more survivable

wary compass
honest surge
wary compass
woven sigil
#

I'm debating so hard on what charm to use, I'll pass up on it for now I guess

flint abyss
#

I'll have to edit in 2.5h if that's the case

woven sigil
#

Full Axe Build

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So if I traded out the Fabled Elder Eoten for T4 Forest Wood, it would have more strength but less blocking power

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I chose shockwave because it's op

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For a non-magic build, I'd say the magic power isn't bad

prime fern
prime fern
#

I used steel as my allow for the extra block and strength

woven sigil
#

It's hard to tell how good it'll be for sure. I'm debating between using a charm for stamina or for even more damage.

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It depends on how it feels against 220 enemies. If I can kill the small ones in a round number of hits, i'd probably go stamina, but if it's close and I'm just shy on damage every time, I'll probably go for the melee

rustic swift
#

Whats the best minor card to use when crafting clothing?

honest surge
#

People use Grenhouse, it does increase the weight of the clothing piece but gives other good stats.

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Also for Crafting Clothing make sure you have augments that generate these buffs:

rustic swift
#

where do yu see where your crafting buffs are?

rustic swift
#

ah ok

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thank you

woven sigil
wary compass
#

Preference on Forge vs Combatants Workshop for finishing an axe?

woven sigil
#

My small brain can't remember all these combos

woven sigil
#

I still have to make one for the wife anyway

honest surge
honest surge
umbral seal
#

Crude Chapparal Trout Trophy don't have sewing trait btw

prime fern
#

crude capparal has issues binding to tables

umbral seal
#

while i got this augment up and artisan card

prime fern
#

it wouldn't bind to my workbench

umbral seal
#

I use globe, crude coat rack, fishing trap and beehive augment

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fishing trap not adding rain resist+ =/

oak meadow
honest surge
#

This was using all of the buffs and greenhouse. I am not sure if they stack or even show up as physical traits.

#

Please be aware that Weight+ is actually partially a bad buff, it adds the weight to the actual item piece, it is not encumberance

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I am not sure if there is a mechanic in the game where your total weight matter, but that is what it does/

wary compass
#

I suspect the block and crit is more real utility than another + on the melee damage, gonna go with forge

woven sigil
#

Here's the preview with combatants for the exact same axe

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@wary compass

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My axe for reference (Forge Card)

wary compass
#

weird, no difference on crit

woven sigil
#

Damage is higher, blocking is somehow? lower

#

I'll craft it and see if there's just a bug

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Axe with Forge Card

wary compass
#

we'd expect blocking to be lower, forge has a blocking bonus and combatant doesnt

prime fern
#

that slight increase in damage is pretty big at T3

honest surge
#

it is

woven sigil
#

Axe with combatants

wary compass
#

the fact that the forge crit bonus is not actually being reflected means combatants is the choice

honest surge
#

Devs really need to look into these tooltips and align the properly. The buffs sometimes do not make any sense other than trial an error. I do love this stage of the game where we play with crafting and figuring stuff out. But all the effects should be spelled out more clearly.

woven sigil
honest surge
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And yes, it is early access so it is acceptable. But I hope they will put resources towards this more than the single player mode.

wary compass
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Pellucid, Bronze, Adv Yew/ Pellucid Gilded, T3 Beelze, Combatant's, Grindstone

woven sigil
#

I just now realized my mistake

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That being said, it should be an even more obvious difference now

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I also have enough materials for a third axe, so I'll make one after I get more essence

umbral seal
#

looks augment ability cant be stacked?

woven sigil
#

Fully upgraded Combatant's Axe. It's for my wife so I don't mind using mats

prime fern
#

almost 2500, purty good

woven sigil
woven sigil
wary compass
#

Yep, crafting spells now, will post when complete

prime fern
#

I wonder how the mystic would be but full dmg instead of a touch of magic

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I shoudl figure out how much magic actually affects things..

wary compass
#

@woven sigil

woven sigil
low plaza
woven sigil
#

So blocking efficiency is a lot lower, but damage and strength are insane

wary compass
#

Yeah- build a little heavier on stam in the clothing and it's a solid improvement

woven sigil
#

Very much so. I will give the one made with Fabled Elder Eoten to my wife who likes to block, and i'll keep the straight damage for myself.

wary compass
#

Also I think you were using steel instead of bronze for your alloy, that's a change also

woven sigil
#

Bronze gives more melee damage, so I used bronze not steel

wary compass
#

or maybe that was Law

woven sigil
#

Yeah it was him. The only thing I messed up was Adv yew

wary compass
#

No, you have to use bronze brass or steel as your alloy. Bronze is the correct choice ๐Ÿ™‚

low plaza
#

How do u guys arrange spells?

wary compass
#

On each tool, 1 of things I want immediate access to (e.g. shockwave, quake, heal), 1 of things to use when convenient (ring of emp, bramble wall, assassin sight), 1 of non-combat utility (track legend, regrowth).

low plaza
#

Hmm

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I was thinking about opposite approach xD

wary compass
#

Spreading combat spells around all tools means I can immediately access my most used spells just by switching tools instead of futzing with menu wheel.

low plaza
#

yea that makes sence

#

how many actual magick damaging spells ppl use?

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is it only quake and beehive?

wary compass
#

shockwave and hermetic flame

low plaza
#

my train of thought was to have dauntless full melee axepick, and use mystic full magic sickle for magic fighting

umbral seal
#

full beelzeboar meat no

boreal bridge
low plaza
prime fern
prime fern
wary compass
#

it's a charged weapon buff like Hermetic

low plaza
#

Oh so its "cast before going into the fight" type of thing

prime fern
#

HOLY HELL

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I just 1 tapped calisto

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for 37k ๐Ÿคฃ

low plaza
wary compass
#

and Swarm

prime fern
#

shockwave does more damage than quake

low plaza
#

Swarm is not before fight?

prime fern
#

just longer to activate

wary compass
#

No, Swarm is an attack

finite schooner
#

Anyone happen to have a swamp map image with coal marked? yes

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I've been through 4 now, I must be running all around it

wary compass
#

In a swamp, though, who knows. What I said goes for desert/forest

prime fern
#

the map is procedural, even fi we gave you a location it would likely be wrong

finite schooner
#

I'll check it out, thanks!

wary compass
#

Swamp might be the wrong place to look for a coal mine. There's no peat in the game...

finite schooner
#

I don't remember why i thought it was in swamp

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if you're finding it in desert caves, I'll go there ๐Ÿ™‚

low plaza
#

ok so based on info u gave me, i have a picture in my head:

axepick (melee): oberon (obv), assaFocus (useful before combat, doesnt scale with magick), flame (small buff better than no buff)
sickle (mystic): swarm, quake, shockwave (maximize dmg, prepare shockwave before fight as a safety measure)
knife (mystic but less magic): arbShield, empRing, (buffs before fight), bramble wall? (idk what else)
climbers (dauntless): recovery, track, dispel (off-combat spells, no need of magic stat)

#

how bramble wall is different from quake?

woven sigil
#

But go off

low plaza
#

how to make it less scuffed?

#

i understand the idea described by Guurzak, but maybe its just me, the weapon swap is so clanky in this game, even spell swap feels more responsive

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(spell casts are still bad tho)

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while i was hunting those boars today, so many times after making a shot from revolver (yes i cant hit hearts), swapping to the axepick took like more than a second

wary compass
honest surge
#

I made my sickle into magic wand basically

low plaza
#

Yo im not alone!

honest surge
#

now that I am thinking though, I should recreate my dagger as magic wand since it would have higher crit I think

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and since magic is capped, crit is the only way to do more dmg

low plaza
#

Btw, do same charms stack? Like if u put charm of steadiness on two items, will i have double the buff?

honest surge
#

I will probably remake the cickle into more of a support health wand

low plaza
honest surge
low plaza
#

Oh

honest surge
#

but quake can crit for 900-1200

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which is odd

low plaza
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And this sickle is for sure above the cap?

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Idk how dmg scales from magick stat

honest surge
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I cant guarantee but my mining pick with 332 magic does the same dmg with both spells

low plaza
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Oh thx thats useful info

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So spells can crit and crit dmg goes above tge cap huh,..

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Btw what IS crit in this game? There is no crit chance, so is it just hitting a weakpoint?

honest surge
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cant really say but I know for sure when I cast quake with my 90 magic axepick it does way less and doesnt crit as often at all

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when i switch to scyte it crits a lot

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there is definitely a magic cap.

thorn crescent
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anyone got spare advance hollow ingot and t3 fabels harpy

pearl tiger
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does anyone know where to find chamomile flowers?

prime fern
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which one has the highest base magick? is it the pistol, the sickle, or the knife ๐Ÿค”

prime fern
pearl tiger
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yeah the guidebook says its found in forest/swamp realms between 1 and 158 power but I went to 2 of those realms and couldn't find it

boreal bridge
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try to run around for a while in there and see if you find any

pearl tiger
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alright thx I'll give that a try

flint abyss
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Time to look into the db not being updated thingy.(finally able to look at it)

wary compass
flint abyss
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Time to run to the first post here and verify/add things from this channel ๐Ÿ˜„

latent python
honest surge
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where does one find Flax? I cam across it once but no idea where

woven sigil
honest surge
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Knife is needed cause you need it to skin

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I usually put heal, assassins and track on it

woven sigil
honest surge
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for easy switch

honest surge
honest surge
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I have few bounty charms, but they are hard to test

woven sigil
honest surge
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how did you test it?

woven sigil
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Plant growth in plant pot

honest surge
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hmm cool

woven sigil
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One sec i'll find the data

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Actually i think it's 5 bounty charms

honest surge
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I trust ya, I just didnt know how to test it

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also I suck at gardening ๐Ÿ˜›

woven sigil
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This is a list we have so far of plants that do or don't grow. Credit goes to Koriania. Copied from BoostAngel

Seed Yield (5 bounty charms)
Marigold 4 seed or 5ish flower
Cape Aloe 6 flower
Dahlia 1 Seed
Chamomile 5 flower & 6 seed.
Shitake Mushrooms Won't Grow.
Water Spinach Didn't Grow
Wheat 3 Wheat
Barberry Didn't Grow
Blueberry 1 Blueberry
Oats Didn't Grow
Crude Didn't Grow
Carrot Didn't Grow
Snapdragon Didn't Grow
Delphinium Didn't Grow
Sunflower 7 seed, 1 flower
Onion 1 onion
Portobello Mushroom Didn't Grow
Potato 3 Potatoes
Tulip Didn't Grow

woven sigil
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Guns don't have spells

woven sigil
honest surge
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I usually go for this meta for myself
Harvesting Axepick - Recovery, Quake, Regrowth (wish oberon's worked, I would replace recovery- for yield bonus only)
Knife - Recovery, Track, Assassin (this is my heal weapon, so I usualy keep it on revovery for easy 1 2 switch)
Sickle:
Solo - Quake, Summon Swarm, Recovery
Party - Ring of Empowerment, Salvation, Quake
Winchester - Charm of Steadiness

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I sometimes substitute winchester with a good old Axe with shockwave ๐Ÿ™‚

woven sigil
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Someone talked about getting t3 fabled enemies in vaults, and had a question about difficulty.

I am here to confirm that 160 vaults have t3 enemies indeed.

wary compass
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Yep. Rerolling 160 vaults and quickly checking each map for a fabled pack event is something I've considered many times

next panther
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what's a fabled pack event?

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oh in vaults. got it.

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that is clever. you've given me my next goal. thanks!

latent python
latent python
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The only enemies that require any thought is 220 brutes (the big bound with the hammers or whatever they are) and if you get a pack of them its just kite them around, hop in and swing for a headshot, get them down 1 at a time. When they get into their fast mode, kite them away from the rest and deal with him 1v1

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Quake makes groups of enemies trivial

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I also run a very strength heavy build so I can stagger almost anything

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Generally my other slot is my climbing picks just for ease of getting around

honest surge
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Yeah, I use quake not for dmg, since it caps, but for crowd control

woven sigil
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Got my new axe

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Also tested something out. I used Britomart's locks in crafting the Enchantment Shockwave to see if the magic power went up, and it did not. Just confirmed for myself that enchantments don't take attributes from items

oak meadow
honest surge
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Mystic weapons are ok with me, what is lacking is magic that would actually scale well and special effects from magic working. (example: Oberon's yield, Regrowth's radius) and so on

woven sigil
latent python
woven sigil
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Picked the item up, still haven't found cotton

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Forest Prov on a rock

latent python
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Ah ok. I still think it might be first time I've seen anyone get it other than from the quest reward at the watch

woven sigil
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heheh

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Max stam and stam efficiency on a single item is pretty pog not gonna lie

latent python
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Yeah, sad that it apparently appears to be super rare then

woven sigil
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Found more in a basket

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This also ended up being more thread

latent python
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Ooh nice, cloth is a lot more useful than a single thread

woven sigil
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Here's what the POI looks like

latent python
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Good to know

woven sigil
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I turned on my chat so I could see what I was getting, and it said this after hitting mushroom

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It was a 230 mushroom, but the item isn't in my inventory?

latent python
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Yeah dulcet lapis seems to be kinda bugged at times from what I've heard

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I think it has to be mine right?

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It's just a good item I believe

woven sigil
latent python
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*food

woven sigil
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Interesting, yeah it's just a broken POI I guess

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It just popped into my inventory

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I think we already have this

oak meadow
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The 230 stuff is comically bad for the most part ๐Ÿ˜ญ

umbral seal
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anyone know which desert ascended for fabled Khepri's scarab?

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need for parasol, shoes and backpack

wary compass
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I'm especially fond of the insect larva "berries" you need a nuclear pickaxe to harvest and then have the same stats as a random T0 berry.

wary compass
umbral seal
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-.-

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they dont name themself fabled though

woven sigil
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How much Beelzeboar meat have you guys farmed?

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Just curious

wary compass
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the fabled scarab is Strog Minion of Lucemis and he spawns in any of Antiq/Astro/Prov

wary compass
woven sigil
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Do you farm the fabled ones or just go for regular

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Like, how serious were you on the 160 Meat requirement lol

wary compass
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But I'll usually do beelzeboar for one component and then jana for another both to save time and to get the higher health

woven sigil
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ah

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I'm going full beelze on the gloves