#Materials and You
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I condensed the creature drops this morning since the same carve was the same stats across all the resources
maybe make a small note they will need to File>Make a Copy. to use the search
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done XD
anyone have fabled carnute? I want to check something
hmm dont think i do but will log in and check
O.o
A mistake on the google doc @rugged wigeon Its Hexham
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hmm can titanium be an ore i thought i posted it as an ingot
titanium can be mined iirc
ok ok
we have it at swamp t4
thought id ask it was a random drop ingot was like hm never seen this before
Glad I could be of service to the community and Thank you for the trust and opportunity to work on this with you @rugged wigeon .
Does anyone happen to remember which realm card increases fiber yield when harvesting in realms? There's a good amount of cards that could be it so I'm not 100% certain. Is it the greenhouse card? I'm finding it p hard to get enough high teir fiber to make the clothing
weighted is one
greenhouse
I got some from extreme desert vault at 220, the sun giant spawns some guaranteed
Thanks y'all! Might be good to have a tab on the doc about charms/infusions/enchantments/realm cards that can increase mat harvesting yields
I think someone was already making a guide for that
i think there is one already out there
ok so!
I just did some testing... and the different clothing/armor DOES have differing amounts of attributes that go on them
https://nightingale-labs.com/nightingale/items/gear/ has most of the gear with there base stats they come with
testing to see if will actually apply now
ya from my understanding base stats never change you can only add to them and never add more is that what your testing?
testing if you can have multiple stats on the materials that match the item being made, and testing whether the stat modifiers are additive or multiplicative
hmm whats the best card to craft guns under
i killed a t3 bishop again too but it only dropped charm oil, the rest fell through the map like usual
maybe combatants workshop
there could be others
try walking away like 100m then come back
Combatants is melee damage only, I believe forge the best one
Unfortunately each of the gun ones are only for ammo
combatants says "increased damage", does it onyl modify melee and not ranged?
Correct, I tested
you report it as a bug? XD
I don't believe it's a bug
That's why I had to test it because guns weren't considered tools in the lists that I saw
that didnt work unfortunately
Try a new iteration of the realm, and maybe add on a looting or mining card
Quarry card only works on things made from Stone
Forge only works on things made from metal
quarry does have a typo
Quarry worked on this
forge specifies input item types ingot, but quarry is missing it
SHEEESH, 6k with 1.7 crit?
Maybe it broken? ๐คฃ
lol
ya didnt want to be one of those people Gilded lumber stacking i feel that shits going to go down bad
im looking to make a rifle now actually, any chance i could get the materials you used please?
You could add a range rating modifier to it looks like you have a slot open still
That's a shotgun but would work with the same materials
its a shotgun i have to be up in there face
That's why I think a ranged rating enchantment would go well with it
huh, where would you find a fabled bishop t2/3
fabled is a rare drop from the normal creature iirc
yep
so, max level desert I guess and farm them
gilded swamp with pursuit, then pursuit for everything else?
ah sweet! i pretty much did that combo for my revolver
I'm trying to max out magick power and the fabled bishop looks like it's higher than everything else
anyone know where beezleboar are? I need 2 more fabled meat to test this glove set
can't remember which biome they're in
swamp arent they? not sure which card
Forest I think?
theyre the frogs right?
Aren't those just the boars
grendel druids are just swamp creatures?
feorroswine are forest, so I think they might be swamp
Ah ok
ooo unless feorro are T1 and beezle are T2...
There are some nasty mega-tusked boars in Forest Antiquarian zones. Could those be the ones?
I'll check gloom forest and update the sheet
Its not in the glossary for some reason, but its found in caves.
in caves and apex barrles
It's not in every cave tho
I find them the most often in 50+ swamp caves
-_- this is the 2nd time I accidentally right clicked while holding my axepick in my house and just 1 shot the foundation I was standing on.
XD need stronger foundations
i feel ya i did it in my chest room
The curse of optimization
now i try to make it a habbit to push H when ever im in base
Beezleboar are in fact T2 forest
Each individual piece of armor has unique base stats than can be increased by adding materials that have matching attribute multipliers.
Yeah, I usually do, I just got back home though
Sushi#3250 i can give ya 2 meats
So, question. Is there any way to use hide in place of something that would normally require fibre?
am I missing something lol
travelling back
not hide, the meats
MEAT
Meat > Animal fiber > refined/thread
nvm that was not to me lol
so I just made some of this druidic gear using Tier 4 swamp fibres
when I could have used Jana meat
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the pains of min/maxing
but man, do I really wanna go through the swamp vault enough times to get 200 Jana meat?
tyty sushi
lol
np
it's 2-1 fiber, you need 400 meat
Yeah no, screw that.
that 5% extra hp isn't worth my sanity of 40 swamp vaults
er, well 30 I think
You can breeze through desert in like 10 minutes, every swamp vault I've been in takes at least 30 just because of how dark it is in there lol
it does in fact take ALL matching attributes on the ingredients
increase your brightness/gamma
so as of right now, I think Beezleboar T3 is best thread for gloves
unless you use magic or range damage gloves ๐
right
unless there's something else that matches the stats better
yknow, I've been saying "I want to go smoke" for the last 6 hours... imma actually go do that now
anyone know of a safe way to use Oberon for harvesting?
Do we know where to get beezleboar t3?
I wish you could make an alloy metal out of any two ores lol
Probably ascended forest
hmm is beezleboar t3 added on the sheet?
Iโve only seen t2 so it something I want to get to complete my collection. If we can get confirmation of card combos+level that spawn it that would be great
i think 150+ is t3
True but sometimes certain major cards spawn more of certain enemies I think. Like Astro vs gloom etc
Provisioner spawns alot of fable pig types
if this is the case we may be able to RP this to T1 1-49, T2 50-150, t3 150+
actually, glossary might help there
i think that should be right
what's hunt+extreme RP?
reg hunt
160 I believe
t4mob incounters norm
then I might be able to get T3 before getting to the watch
How do i reset a swamp prov realm
it keeps sending me to same one even though im using new cards
wrong chat for that, check https://discord.com/channels/854679517997695016/1209256471074967603
I tried it I was only getting t2 iirc before I hit watch
damn ,so watch is mandatory then
For t3 animals I think so. You can get t5 lumber and fiber before then. If you manage to make the tools for it. Though you can desert wood with robot cheese
anyone know what luminous fibre is for? just a placeholder maybe?
it needed a 230 pick from a giant blue mushroom but has no stats at all
Placeholder it seems
I hate these pillars
They look so big and gorgeous, and then you need to climb them only to have 10ish ore or so
is the ore really worth it?
Itโs mostly too specific for my opinion, thereโs some good, but I kinds donโt like them at all
And then thereโs pandora with 50% stealth for what?
I wonder if stealth has a backstab mechanic?
Like multiply damage from backstabing?
yeah
Itโs just not effective after first stab :(
Youโre dealing mostly with big amounts of winter fae
I personally use knife only for magick
Because it has evasion
yeah, but if it does you can stack probably 500+% damage
Advanced hollow is 60%, Harpy T3 is 60%, forest T5 fiber is 20%
fabled elder eoten is another 60%
Desert Herb Asc. Huge ant hill
You can get 14 or on each, I usually give up on the hard to get ones though
If you can get in close to do a heart shot with a melee, you can do a ton of damage
god someone dropped 300k T3 essence
I wish i had as much to buy everything from the store instead of 4 to 5 wipes of dungeon for one item
Then you would stop playing because you would run out of stuff to do
It's the same thing in world of Warcraft and other mmos, you have to grind end game currency to get the best gear
games designed to be a time sink
I stopped atm because of this spiral
It shure consumes a lot of energy
Iโm glad that dungeons are present, fsrming essence is hella pain w/o them
But unability to craft some items and build restrictions is painful
You can use essence cards and charms to
And you have infinite worlds to build in, noone says to o lay build in first realm
Oh, talking about, did you know you can apply cards to dungeon ?
I meant 300 block build limit
You canโt build much with this limitation
I guess someone set transmutator and burned a card at start of the dungeon
tbf, i ran every asc realm on hard/extreme solo. did fae towers, played treasury card and went around playing the game, getting t-5 materials. i did a handful of dungeons and ive found its quite easy for essence. mid game was hard imo
300 in a single building and as many buildings as you want each in different realms... You can make a massive manor to live in, a massive forge, a massive farm, you just can't do it all in one realm.
We run ascended extremes and get 800+ per realm without full clears
Also not playing essence cards
Or with the essence charms
Could probably push that to over 1.1k per realm
i think its more than fair. sun giant dungeon is a very quick clear but ive only been doing that for ingots. 300 ish a run is good but ive got more than enough t3 essence now with farming t5 materials for my gear
Actually there's a way you can. Check this post in Screenshots:
https://discord.com/channels/854679517997695016/1212100469548392560
Definitely not intended to stop the servers from overloading, but people will find ways around if it's possible ๐คฃ
Always.
not sure if it's a bug or just not implemeneted yet, but enchantments don't increase the final products stats
i think its a hidden stat
ope wait, I went to a new realm after adding them and now the stats updated
they do matter
when doing this its not showing T3 Beelzeboar in the drop down list could we get a "blank" na so when we are only looking maybe 1 or 2 stats
where exactly is this jana meat?
T3 beelzeboar has no stats at the moment
ah
Swamp Vault
ahh, ok ty
it will be increased from the T2, just don't know by how much
Its the vault door on the right in the watch
more reason to backstab lol
does it work?
that would make stealth more viable
theft build for sungiant when?
just need a tank with jana's roar
it just says drops items when strikes them not kill them so hmm
imagine 4/5 thieves and 1/2 tank
lol
what can that charm go on?
anything im guessing
Charms only go on gear
sooo 7 stack on clothing then lol
most charms can be places on all items
anything that can't use spells
i dont think charms stack sadly
I put a charm of bounty on every single piece of clothing and saw no noticeable difference over one
Yeah, I feel like they don't stack
In your opinion, what do you think the best magic melee is?
like for spell?
ya
I like quake for the stagger
but what weapon you feel best using those spells on
this needs to updated on the sheet
i noticed it stops after 2 pieces
gotcha
i put it on 2, picked up 5-7 fiber, took 1 off and it went down to 3-5
where, it's strength heat fire on mine
Here's what I have right now
Axepick has Quake, Regrowth, Assassin's Sight
Hunting Knife has Recovery, Track Legend
Cimbing Picks have Illumination, Ring of Empowerment, Jana Roar
Sickle doesn't have anything yet
Sorry i was looking one above! my eyes are tired haha
lol no worries, mine do that too. if i catch it I select the rows/columns
you can have more then 1 spell on an item?
spell, charm, and infusion per tier
yes and it raises gearscore
Charm is only 1
can you take a screen shot on ya item i feel like im getting mixed up
lmao hoe flies
Hoe Berries ๐
what charms do you go with?
You can't put charms on tools. Charm and Spells are exclusive to each other.
What kind of berries are you harvesting with a pick from a dead bug? o_0
Almost done making this stupid druidic set lol
@rugged wigeon Did you ever find that tier 3 Beezleboar?
it's in the forest, but I'm not far enough in the game yet
Ok, I'm gonna go wander around Extreme Ascended Hunt Forest and see if I can find one, making gloves now so I wanna see if I can find it
do we know what the name of the fire bound are
i killed a bunch of grenade chuckers but they havent dropped bombardier
at all
i tink the fire guys drop it
dont know if they are here yet, didnt see em
hm, I wonder if Beezleboar's don't spawn in hunt, because I haven't seen a single one.
maybe ascended hunt is too high for them to spawn?
its marked but i just found this in my forest abeyance realm
yep, bismuth spire right?
yeah
I'm going to try a Hard Ascended Gloom Forest, thats 160.
Yeah, I at least see Beezleboar spawning in here now
Well, there was 1..
the things you find online
wtf lol
So this is who you need to look for
I found him in Ascended Provisioner on Hard (160), I'm going to check to see if they spawn more often in Extreme
But I think Provisioner is the spot to look for them
I love it when fabled gets sucked into the void
Increases harvest from animals, increases damage to weakpoints, but decreases damage to non weakpoint attacks
I only need....72 meat ๐
at least its 6 meat per kill
do you have a harvest knife?
Harvest knife?
like make a knife with the card active that increases yeilds
I'm 3/3 for these on the map being the beezleboar being the thing there
so I don't know if they're the only fabled that spawn in Provisoner
or if I'm just getting lucky
If so, that makes it really easy to farm them at least
Anyways, gonna grab some food and will resume the hunt in a bit
does anyone know specifically which bound drops bombardier actions?
flamethrower guy I think
kk
Any known know around what level and realm type (antiquarian hunt etc) that they can find wheat for forest biomes?
does anyone know if the paper press does anything?
says nothing at this time
I wonder how an all magick ranged elemental build would do ๐ค
T3 stuff has to be higher level, so probably. I don't know if level 100 would be high enough for t3, but it might?
Can you use "trickster minor card" to farm meat from higher realms (power=50+), just chopping trees ?
Not sure honestly, haven't tried it
I don't imagine it would give fabled meat though, but who knows
somthing happen to the sheet its like all out of order?
can a <@&987057773139341363> please Pin #1211441254454394881 message
we got a toooon of messages going on ๐
we only up to 1336 msg sent
They can only have 1 pinned post, its why my guide stuff got rolled into the existing pinned message
Unfortunately, we are limited.
one pinned post per mod?
b/c theres 0 in this channel
ohh, you want them to pin the message with the link to the sheet in this post itself
appreciate the work y'all are putting in !
yeah, to save 5 minutes of scrolling if we close it in browser
So you want the original message pinned? Just wanna make sure.
this is a hub of material talk now
There ya go
@trim prism I think the ask was to have this message #1211441254454394881 message pinned in this post
this is good
Oh, you already did lol sorry I was scrolling all the way to the top
lol I get it ๐
Thank you
Absolutely no problem. Happy to help out!
Alright there, I farmed all 72 meat for my gloves, lets hope this was worth it lol
min maxing is always worth it if you believe
i have to farm for me and my partner so thats double the amount lol for me and her
BASED
Alright, that was finally the last piece I needed
so here's what everything turned out as
Maximum Health 87.8
Miasma Resistance 20%
Fire 20%
Rain 15%
Injury 15%
Cold 15%
Heat 15%
Poison 29%
Ice 20%
Blight 20%
Durability 280
Leather x 4 (Jana)
Fabric x 2 (Tier 4 Swamp Fibre)
Ornament x 2 (Tier 3 Automation Rook)
Buckles x 1 (Tier 3 Automation Rook)
Druidic Breeches (Tier 4 Swamp Fibre) 143
Maximum Health 70
Maximum Stamina 90
Health Regeneration (/m) 25
Stamina Regeneration (/s) 8
Stealth Rating 15%
Cloth x 4 (Tier 4 Swamp Fibre)
Lining x 2 (Tier 4 Swamp Fibre)
Thread x 4 (Tier 4 Swamp Fibre)
Druidic Casual Shirt (Tier 4 Swamp Fibre) 143
Maximum Health 61.2
Maximum Stamina 110
Health Regeneration (/m) 25
Stamina Regeneration (/s) 12.8
Stealth Rating 15%
Durability 260
Cloth x 3 (Tier 4 Swamp Fibre)
Lining x 2 (Tier 4 Swamp Fibre)
Ornament x 1 (Fabled Sun Giant)
Buttons x 4 (Fabled Sun Giant)
Druidic Tophat (Jana) 143
Maximum Health 69.8
Melee Damage 19.5%
Ranged Damage 5%
Critical Damage 11%
Magick Power 6
Durability 320
Ranged Rating 30
Cloth x 2 (Jana)
Fabric x 3 (Tier 4 Swamp Fibre)
Buckles x 1 (Pellucidic)
Druidic Boots (Jana) 143
Max Health 72
Magick Power 3
Blocking Efficiency 15%
Stealth Rating 24%
Movement Speed 3.9%
Durability 320
Leather x 4 (Jana)
Rope x 2 (Jana)
Buckles x 2 (Advanced Hollow Metal)
Druidic Gloves (Jana) 143
Maximum Health 90
Melee Damage 19.5%
Ranged Damage 5%
Critical Damage 10%
Magick Power 6
Strength 1.5
Durability 400
Leather x 2 (Jana)
Thead x 4 (Jana)
Lining x 2 (Tier 3 Beezleboar)```
Missed uploading this one this morning.
i forgot those things where a thing
Like he farms for it alone ๐
W8 how do we get Jana thread?
apex runs then turn the meat into it think
Meat turns into thread?
in tannery
O_o i will take a look ty
like sinew
Animal fiber
Error found on sheet for Fabled Hexham Mongrel T2 & Fabled Hexham Mongrel T3, it has been changed on DB, working on Filterable.
@rugged wigeon did half of this half asleep, thanks for catching! ๐
Poor guy didn't know what he's getting himself into.
Btw how do ppl get 300+gs when i just made webler revolver with einaidia fully upgraded and its just 211?
show proof people have over 300
b/c even with best gear youre high 200s
afaik
I believe i saw 313 but ofc i did not screenshot it. Will do next time if remember
But even for high 200s my question still stands.
It could be the umbrella glitch.
Are revolvers just low in general or did i fumble my revolver craft somehow?
I think I've added maybe 12 rows of data from what I had in chests today lol
this is upper level from what ive seen
I'm 275 average right now, there is a bug that can make scores appear much higher than they are. For example, I saw someone show up as 415 lol
Hey everyone ! While I'm sure discussing this topic is definitely something you all want to do, I'm going to ask you discuss it in the #general-chat or #nightingale-talk as this community guide has gone off topic multiple times !!
Its 275 when I hold my highest GS tool
Ok, maybe i worded my question wrong
What i wanna know is - Is it ok for einaidia revolver be only 211?
Sorry Grace, I think we all got addicted to the no slow mode in here ๐
the guide is really the first post, we mostly talk theory crafting about materials for min maxing
or help add info
It just means we lock these and the op has to ask us to unlock them
also generally somewhere to talk about resources & materials that isn't constantly pulled away from that theme
Keep to the topic of the guide please !
Not the purpose of these forum channels, they're intended for easy access to the information people have been able to obtain 1400 messages isn't easy to obtain information
Its the first post shown when someone joins and its pinned. Would you like to add a theorycrafting or materials chat instead?
Doesn't matter if it's pinned, or not, the extra relevant information is now lost in the 1400 messages
all relevant info is in the spreadsheet
would you add a theorycrafting channel so we can talk about building tools/gear?
general chat is a bit too general
Like I said, stick to the topic of the forum post
And that can go in #nightingale-talk
Posting Flowers, because I didn't see a section for them yet:
You can close this back up! ๐
Further conversation of the specific of min/maxing is happening over here
https://discord.com/channels/854679517997695016/1212256452249657505
Please keep discussions to the topics ๐๐๐