Farming Help

[fallow wolf]

I wish we could get things like the link to the spreadsheet pinned

[rigid canopy]

Ayup! Looking for it to place around my house.

[drowsy merlin]

aaah, well it doesn't grow as sedge unfortunately as stated above it isn't an actual intended farmable material

[versed hawk]

yea thanks Glenn for checking in on this.

[rigid canopy]

I like the look of it around my desert style house. Does well in taking up blank wall space and adding to empty corners.

[drowsy merlin]

That is true, I agree with you there, but since it doesn't grow as actual sedge you might as well use crude seeds because it looks the same as regular fibre when it grows 😦

[rigid canopy]

Ahhh! Understood. Never tried growing the crude seeds. Thnx

[quiet beacon]

More importantly. Is a Tomato a Fruit or Vegetable? 😛

[eager socket]

Yes

[quiet beacon]

A Fae answer if I ever heard one.

[drowsy merlin]

ummmm its a potato

[slate sonnet]

Honest and truthful.

[versed hawk]

since the dawn of time man has wanted to answer the question is a tomato a fruit or a vegetable.

[drowsy merlin]

Think you are forgetting the age old question the egg or the chicken 😛

[versed hawk]

the egg or the chicken is an easy one, another creature evolved into what is now the chicken and laid it's first egg

[slate sonnet]

It’s also likely not to have been asked prior to the 1500s

[fallow wolf]

while you're "here" who might we be able to bug to get things like our link to a google docs spreadsheet with all the info about seeds and what grows, what doesn't etc for people to refer to pinned

[rigid canopy]

Sedge and crude fiber only look similar because they are grass'. The Sedge is much larger and has some fiberous ends. On my way to check the forest gloom for Sedge seeds and will confirm if I locate any.

[slate sonnet]

Discord mods do pins, it’s probably easier to ask one of them for it

[fallow wolf]

heck, I've gotten actual grass a few times and haven't even gotten into that

yeah I didn't know if they had those abilities

[eager socket]

I don't appear to have permissions for that, might be best to ask a mod

I'm also not sure what the rules around that are though

[fallow wolf]

awww no love for you. Thanks for trying though 🙂

it would just be nice because we could point people towards the pin when they ask "hey, does X grow right?"

But I'm also nice and put the link on two of the sleekplan bug reports about plants because... details!

[drowsy merlin]

Yeah I know but if you find some and attempt to grow it and grow crude seeds right next to it you will notice....100% the same 🙂

[fallow wolf]

they only produce crude fibre. it's been tested by one of us who added info to the spreadsheet

[drowsy merlin]

Yeah I know >.> i've tested it as well and created a spreadsheet as well XD but chyklok is looking for aesthetics not for yield purposes

[fallow wolf]

YAY for Finnster 🙂 Thank you

[fallow wolf]

aaaahh I see

[low halo]

Yw, but just be aware I think these discussion posts can only have one pin, so if stuff gets moved around DM and I’ll repin the new post

[drowsy merlin]

I have done some major extensive testing on farming yields, between every type of realm, almost every minor card, as well as different difficulties now.

[drowsy merlin]

Tyvm 🙂

[fallow wolf]

that spreadsheet accepts comments. If you want to comment with any info on that sheet, one of three of us can publish the comment

[drowsy merlin]

I'm still putting together all the info but once I do i'll definitely be looking to someone else because although I say i've created a spreadsheet.....its more of just a list XD

[fallow wolf]

well, take a look at that link and you'll see what we've started

[drowsy merlin]

My eyes don't actually do well looking at spreadsheets due to head trauma, so unfortunately any time I have to look at one I have to be ready for literal pain.

[rigid canopy]

First image is Sedge. Second image is crude fiber.

Hard to see with the sky coloring, however, noticable size and ends.

[drowsy merlin]

hmmm are you in a desert realm? because once I found they didn't produce the proper material I stopped testing them and in my forest realm settings it looked like crude >.>

[fallow wolf]

is it that usually everything's one color and it's hard to focus on them or is there anything that makes them easier to see? Also, if it would help save some discomfort you are more than welcome to message me with your list and I'll take care of it

[rigid canopy]

Forest Aby

Was it pre-patch?

[drowsy merlin]

Its the lines, and how typically people tend to offset information on the page, my brain doesn't handle it well.

OOOH that one might have been pre patch, i've gone back and tested everything except those after the patch >.< that could be it.

[fallow wolf]

well, I'm not 100% certain what you're meaning by offsetting the info so I'm not picturing it, but, I'm still more than happy to get the list from you then deal with the spreadsheet myself

[drowsy merlin]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ua1LeyQ2IaeTu7-tpIc_lZqMhlQiyLlWmuFz7dx_pVM/edit#gid=0

take a look at that one its in another guide on here a friend of mine made it

the information isn't in a straight line so my brain tries to register it in an odd way and causes actual headaches.

[fallow wolf]

oh dear lord... ouch

the one we've got is just good ol' normal cells

[drowsy merlin]

Yeah i'm adding a few comments XD

[split atlas]

We mods can't actually do anything on the seek plan, as we're not moderating it ..

[merry briar]

your image of sedge looks a lot like the tier fibre plants. Those are able to be planted and do grow as well if that's the look you're going for

[merry briar]

I'm not sure what the community guides permissions are like but could someone post it there for easy reference?

[drowsy merlin]

huh? its already been pinned

[rigid canopy]

So no luck finding Sedge in the Forest Gloom (maybe bad luck). I tried harvesting the Sedge I had, since it seems like most of the testing was done prior to the patch. The Sedge is still giving only crude fiber and no sedge seeds were obtained from the mortar. If anyone knows where to get Sedge seeds I would be grateful for the info. During my Forest Gloom 140 run I did find a TON of Spyrys Mushrooms - should a location be added to the spreadsheet. 👍🏻

[viscid agate]

Thank you for your hard work!!!

[drowsy merlin]

Okay i'll keep my eyes out incase I run into them again thanks for the info

[rigid canopy]

Thnx for your time and efforts!

[merry briar]

I was totally wrong about the tier fibres sharing the same look. To much farming it's all running together lol. But if you're looking to add a splash of color to your decor these are the tier desert fibres T1-T5 from left to right.

[versed hawk]

that pinned doc on google docs is really good

[viscid agate]

Bound Fibers that drop from enemies don't grow currently. Though that may be intended! "Advanced Bound Fiber" and "Bound Bristle"

[fallow wolf]

And everybody has permissions to comment on a cell and when one of the three of us who can edit it gets to it we can update information with that comment

[viscid agate]

i made some comments in there

[slate sonnet]

Gonna bet all fibres that are drop-related aren’t intended to be farmable

[versed hawk]

that would be a good bet

[heavy dome]

@digital dragon

[limber thunder]

Watering needed bug still persist even in tempest minor card

[versed hawk]

it also applies to rain barrels if you put them down and tempest is started before the rain barrel is placed down

[limber thunder]

I just placed all pots in dry desert before tempest card activation and no luck. Bug persists

[strong epoch]

I have this bug also but its not on every pot.... I'm not sure the culprit. Maybe placment/position of the pot....dunno xD

[grizzled crow]

I believe this has been mentioned in an earlier convo and Glenn did mention they took notes from this channel so I'm sure they'll look into it 🙂

[rigid canopy]

Left to right: Swamp Fibre T1, T2, T3, T4 and T5. Still haven't found anymore sedge seeds, however, the Sedge that I have use the same skin as the Swamp Fibre but with a different color scheme. Sedge has light green blades with a yellow stripe the length of each and the "cat tail" at the end of the longer ones are light brown in color (a more traditional looking saw grass).

[merry briar]

The colors of t3 and t4 are my faves. I'm using a lot of the desert Fibre for decoration around mine

[rigid canopy]

During my jaunt through a Herb. Swamp 27 I found two different Oats. The one with the "N" icon stamp was an upright gatherable grain sack while the one with the fibre icon was the oat you gather by hand near buildings. I made seed from the "Vegetable" to test if I could then make flour from it since the "fibre" version reportedly does not.. when I harvested the "vegetable" oat it came back as the plant fibre version (non-usable for flour). I will try and gather 10 of the vegetable oat and see if those will grind into flour.

[fallow wolf]

Have you tried making seeds for them? And if you found if they both grow or if one does and the other doesn't

[visual pawn]

Sorry if this has been answered already, tried searching in Discord without finding the answer. Do you get more back from using a plantbox than a pot?

[slate sonnet]

No difference when people were looking into it

[visual pawn]

Hmm, considering the difference in size, not much point is using the box then

[quiet beacon]

There is a lot of this sort of thing when it comes to items that are gathered versus “looted”. Like you may have noticed that you’ll pick up bones and food offerings that say things like “Tier 1 Wolf Bones” but when killing and gathering from wolves gives “Tier 1 Predator Bones”.

It seems obvious they’ve made a bunch of changes to materials to streamline things a bit but haven’t updated the lootable objects out in the world so you’re finding old versions of those materials.

[minor iris]

that's a bit puzzling since so much of the realms are procgen'd. I guess they probably have like prefabs or whatever for the POIs and other set pieces, which would still need manual touch-ups.

[slate sonnet]

I looted some hemp seeds last night that makes me sad they’re never going to do anything, I hope they clean up the loot tables with the next pass so there aren’t these dead ends we know aren’t going anywhere.

[rigid canopy]

There was hemp, in game, for quite awhile. What @Dastion mentioned above.. it's a bullseye.

[slate sonnet]

#1210155047124602891 message

[latent nimbus]

someone mentioned the gloom realm did the same buff the herbarium realm did...faster grow speed I believe. Is this correct? It would save on having to switch out a tempest card as it seems to always rain in gloom

Also wondering if there is a food guide listing what foods you should focus on during different stages of the game

[heady bay]

It is far easier to water the plant box with a watering can.

[fallow wolf]

And for those who aren't aware of its existence, there is a seed spreadsheet that shows if we know something grows or or if it has issues even though it does grow. It is pinned here. It doesn't have everything on it because we don't have everything to plant, like vegetable (oats)
so, if something isn't on that list and you've tried to grow it, please feel free to comment on a cell (empty for something that isn't there) and we'll get to adding that info in

[solid oak]

I think I got two Vegetable (oats). I'll check it out now.

[rich solstice]

I don't get this issue. Ignore the water, it's just visual nonsense. Just aim the centre reticule at the soil in the pot or plot.

[solid oak]

2 Vegetable (Oats) > 6 Seed (Oats) > 15 Plant Fiber (Oats) ... not processable to flour

[fallow wolf]

Ok, thank you

[heady bay]

I haven't really had much issue with it, although I can still do the farm plots faster. I've seen a number of people complaining about having problems with it, though.

[fallow wolf]

any minor cards at play?

[fallow wolf]

and, wait... vegitable oats produced plant fibre oats?

man, there's all sorts of fun going on there

[solid oak]

Farm card on Asc Hunt Forest. I think turning Vegetable (Oats) to seeds puts them in the Plant Fiber (Oats) loop. Forgot to check if they stack though.

[latent nimbus]

can anyone answer this question?

[slate sonnet]

I’m curious so I’m going to boot up the game so I can look at the card for you

[slate sonnet]

gloom vs herb. I didn't hang around long enough to find out if it was going to stop raining and remove "Soggy"

[latent nimbus]

Thanks. I haven’t been in a gloom realm where it ever stopped raining. I’m just not sure if the realm does the same as herbarium as was mentioned

[slate sonnet]

it looks like growth rate is capped from all these sources anyway, if you could get an augment that added an extra 25% it should be equivalent with nearly constant rain. Might save on extra cards in the long run.

[latent nimbus]

Thanks

[ember light]

I have tried to find Anything regarding issues with growing wheat and oats but don’t see anyone mentioning this… these still won’t grow for me. Anyone else?

[viscid agate]

I haven’t had that issue, I would delete your pots and replant

[rigid canopy]

Wheat works growing and making flour. Oats grow but cannot be used to make flour. It has been discussed at length. There is a google spreadsheet (possibly in pinned) that is being worked on.

[ember light]

Thank you! I’ve tried that… still nothing

[viscid agate]

Wheat was growing pre-patch which is the strange thing.

[fallow wolf]

It is pinned. Got Finnster to do it for us

[grizzled crow]

@fallow wolf going to try the fibers that still show unknows, but I wanted to double check on T5 swamp fiber because it says unknown but there are notes on it

also @analog crest

[analog crest]

Awesome! thank you!

[merry briar]

I did the research on the T5 fibres. The notes are my findings. They all 3 grow. They double as pretty foilage for base decor ❤️

[grizzled crow]

Thank you, that's why I found it weird that it showed unknown

[fallow wolf]

that would be me forgetting to change the dropdown

[grizzled crow]

no worries, just wanted to doublecheck

I appreciate the spreadsheet 🙂

[fallow wolf]

Rose was the one to start it. I just happened to have gotten done attempting to grow a ton of things when I got home. So when she put it up for people to comment I just started commenting like crazy so she gave me the ability to edit lol

[bitter pilot]

I've been lurking on this thread for a while, and I want to say the spreadsheet is brilliant! Super helpful, thank you to @analog crest, @fallow wolf, @maiden imp and all who have been contributing to it. I'd like to help as well - what sort of data are needed for it?

On that note, may I suggest an additional tab or section on the Changelog tab with a list of what additional data/testing is needed?

[fallow wolf]

@maiden imp too 🙂 just so she can get credit where credit is due.

[fallow wolf]

honestly, we're just adding any info people are giving us. I mean, this is how wikis start. Someone has to start collecting. I mean, anything from "hey this thing grows better in a Farm realm than a Greenhouse one" to links to images of what they look like are handy

[bitter pilot]

Gotcha. I'm just starting out with the farming venture, but I'll try to add data as I come across it.

I actually haven't checked but....is there a wiki for Nightingale yet? I've been avoiding it while exploring things for the first time.

[fallow wolf]

because we can put images in there so we could maybe start a tab for what things look like. if there's a link I could see how the image could be gracefully added.

[bitter pilot]

Yes, like those pics of the T1-T5 plants that several users posted. Those would be excellent for the wiki as well.

[fallow wolf]

it does look like one can insert images into cells so, I'll just make a tab where I can have image links and later work on saving those images to insert into cells

[merry briar]

Are you wanting images of plants for the spreadsheet?

[fallow wolf]

sure, why not. I know people have been posting them. May as well add it in here

[merry briar]

I'm doing some more tier fibre tests this evening. I'll grab screenshots of each individual one instead of the rainbow lineups.

[fallow wolf]

sweet, thanks

[analog crest]

There’s also #1211073684140462190

[fallow wolf]

yeah... I still want to have it in one place rather than scrolling through a messy thread. when I'm not out of spoons I may dig through that to save some

[analog crest]

Lol

[fallow wolf]

really, I have a hard time figuring out what's what. at a minimum I can figure out the links to each of the images first and put them there then later I can just save the images and insert them properly

[merry briar]

The number differences between tempest card, farm card, and greenhouse card for the fibre tests are interesting.

[fallow wolf]

ohhh can't wait to hear about it

[merry briar]

I didn't do the tempest card. Saw someone else did. Was just comparing the number differences and am kinda gobsmacked. Greenhouse for fibre and wheat. Feels like the farm card should do better because these are things that farmers grow on fields and not in greenhouses which I find wild but interesting

[grizzled crow]

I did that test, honestly was just looking more for whether it grew or not, but thought I'd just put the results the just in case 🙂

[fallow wolf]

yeah, the one thing I did know is that greenhouse is better for the wheat, oats, and other fiber looking things

[merry briar]

I'm working on swamp fibres currently. Having trouble getting a good screenshot since the plant is so frikken tall though

[slate sonnet]

It is strange that it’s exactly opposite to how it really works

[fallow wolf]

man, I can't wait until I have my entire plant box grid together so I can have a consistent number of plants I'm planting each time. Because, dang it, everyone who keeps saying that waiting on wheat is a myth... I consistently get more 1 and 2 harvests off of harvesting right away rather than going fishing for maybe 10-15 min, after which I skew much more to the 4 and 6 harvests

and I'm now planting a little over 100 so it's not like oh just some weird rng that magically happens on 20 plots

[merry briar]

I've encountered this wait time as well. I usually wander off to make more seeds while I wait.

[fallow wolf]

omg, thank you. to everyone who keeps saying "it's a myth" their idea of "waiting" is . . . 5 min tops

[coral light]

The planter boxes are so big but only take a single seed.....not worth building when you can just place pots.. odd as the display image item visual you get in the building menu shows 4 plants per box....once that happens they'll be worth it

[fallow wolf]

can I not enjoy how it looks like I have some mega farm

not like everyone is trying to min/max every inch of space

[merry briar]

I just upgraded my farm to 60 plots. It was previously 25. My swamp realm herb farm is still at 25 though. Unfortunately my herb/forest realm has gathered the attention of two blue glowy bois now and sometimes they just sit on either side of my farm and howl all night long. Their regrowth does not work for farming. A gal can dream.

[fallow wolf]

lol. I'm not even done doing all my boxes. the spot I made seems to be a good size for 16x16

[merry briar]

I'm right next to the portal for both realms so far. The swamp one looks like a fishing pier and I've built tiered wood foundations all the way down to the water and added the street lamp posts for lighting. Looks pretty at night

[fallow wolf]

wanna see what I've got going?

[merry briar]

yes!

[fallow wolf]

I still need to make some sort of walkway and covered bridge over a couple bits of water

are you on right now?

[merry briar]

yeah I am

[fallow wolf]

sent you a msg

[glossy pier]

I would love to see both of your farms ^_^

[coral light]

Oh i get it. They look cool as...but are a waste of space as they currently are

[fallow wolf]

waste of space... unless you want it to use that space

[viscid agate]

this my farm
8x30
so 240 pots i tihnk

it takes quite a bit of time for the realm to load in

[shy mulch]

Does this not take literally forever to plant/water? Good lord 🥲

[versed hawk]

yes

I have 105 and it takes a long time

[grizzled crow]

I also use 240 😅

(used to be the exact amount for 600 wheat)

[fallow wolf]

also, Rose may have stumbled across why some of y'all don't get more wheat when waiting.
Stuff she planted in a pot . . no difference OR lower when waiting.
In a plant box.. higher when waiting

and for the record, she was on the side of thinking I was just running into crazy coincidences. Then she harvested a bunch of pots and boxes after having been out for a while and noticed a distinct difference

so she's going to do more testing

[merry briar]

I like the plant boxes personally because it gives it a more farming feel for me. I never really thought about pots vs boxes might also cause some kind of number variance while testing.

We were talking about the building capacity earlier tonight. Do the pots and boxes both have the same count towards capacity?

[fallow wolf]

Everything is supposed to count as one thing towards capacity. Different items are not weighted differently. What I ran into was a bug of epic proportions

[merry briar]

My farms aren't really anything special. Just a bunch of boxes near the portal. I used stone foundation for the forest farm and wood foundation for the swamp farm. Used the wood foundation all the way down to the waters edge so at some point I can fish while waiting on wheat. I haven't made any farms in the desert yet, but I want to. Especially after seeing all the pretty things tonight!

[versed hawk]

In picture 2, how much patience did you have to get your planter boxes lined up like that 😮

[merry briar]

I just crouch and move from one side to the other slowly. Most of the time it works out but sometimes it doesn't and one ends up jetting out. Of course the follower gets in the way all the time.

[fallow wolf]

well, the forest and swamp fibre pictures that were offered up are now actually in that sheet as well

[golden anvil]

does the charm of bounty stack up to 4 only or more?

[viscid steppe]

My impression was that charms don't stack.

[grizzled crow]

I did a test with other types of charms that would be easy to visually track when stacking, and none of them stacked. So my assumption is that they don't stack

[latent nimbus]

is there a reason to do farms in multiple realms?

[tidal shuttle]

from my experience they do stack while gathering i used a card so got essences more and i was getting 4 a time straight to inventory with multiple charms on .... dont know if that is normal with that card though lol but i do feel like i was getting more fibre and sticks than just 1 bounty i had on previously

[viscid steppe]

Normal for me in a herbarium realm and one charm of bounty.

[merry briar]

I have a farm card on my big farm so it's my seed production spot. I have greenhouse on the other. It's so I don't have to swap cards constantly. Now I only swap to tempest to refill rain barrels.

[fallow wolf]

this is exactly what I have

[latent nimbus]

Yeah I get the cards…one for better harvest yields and one for better seed yields. Just looked like your pics were plots on different realms? So didn’t understand the need for plots on more than the harvest yields

[coral light]

How do the rain barrels work?

[versed hawk]

when it rains they fill with water

[merry briar]

Rain will fill them with water and you can fill your watering can from them

[merry briar]

Some crops do better yields with the greenhouse card like Fibre and Wheat and Oats. Others yield more with the farm card. Potato, Tomato. I can plant and water separate crops on each realm then go out and gather for a while. Plus a change of scenery is nice too

[latent nimbus]

Ah. Thanks

[merry briar]

I'll prob make a desert farm with tempest for crops that have a set harvest amount like berries and mushrooms eventually. I need to actually play the game some more to unlock more blueprints and gather rocks/wood to build.

[coral light]

Oooo I think i got that the other day.
Then got stuck at the watch
About to login and see if I can leave lol

[latent nimbus]

I wonder if they intended all this multiple realm building. Seems a little time intensive to do all the loading screens

[minor iris]

only somewhat-groundless speculation that the loading screens are a byproduct of doing server instancing and autoscaling to keep their expenses down

[latent nimbus]

I get the card aspect was an intention. And that everything seems to not be working so great. But all the complicated aspects of geez everything seems to be a lot

[minor iris]

i.e. they almost certainly don't keep all N realms for a given player open on the server side, just the one they're sitting in, and they shut it down altogether when the player(s) log out. the delay is for whatever VMs, Pods, containers, or whatever to spool up and load the realm's data from cold storage before letting you connect.

[latent nimbus]

No I wouldn’t expect that. That would be way too much for their servers

I just don’t find the idea of having to have 10 bases appealing.

[minor iris]

no, me neither.

[latent nimbus]

I’ve seen people talk of having a realm to cook because there’s a buff if you use provisioner

And then multiple realms for farming

And then I’ve seen someone say fishing is good so you need a realm to fish. Lol

[quiet beacon]

You can do all of that in one realm if you prefer. Swapping minor cards is cheap and the cooking buff in provisioner isn’t huge nor is the extra growth rate in herbarium. In fact you could probably set aside a single Provisioner realm for cooking, farming, and fishing your preferred fish.

[minor iris]

but how will we min-max to the max 😏

[quiet beacon]

10 is a bit extreme unless you just really plan to hit the building limit in multiple zones for Farming - which is obnoxious.

[latent nimbus]

10 was an exaggeration

But right now, it’s not possible to get everything you need in one realm. Building limit, building bug, augmentations needed, amount of plots needed just to get a decent crop

If you play with others that adds another aspect of building. Because most people don’t really want to share the ENTIRE build. They want something of their own

[grizzled crow]

in my opinion I like to use the different building types you get throughout the game and want to make multiple bases 🙂 trying to unlock all available blueprints first though

that said, idk how many bases I'll make lol

[quiet beacon]

Farming in this game isn’t like others where you plant, wait awhile in game for stuff to grow, collect, repeat etc. it’s pretty quick and you’re basically doing an activity until you have what you need.

Think of it like realm hopping to a desert to get Salt. It’s more an excuse to use the portal system and gather materials for refinement than a building a whole new base. My “farm” is just a bunch of plant boxes, a realm transmutter, mortar bench, fire, and bedroll. More and more outpost than a base.

[grizzled crow]

don't think 10 though

[latent nimbus]

Lol. 10 really was me exaggerating haha

[grizzled crow]

I imagined, but just wanted to point out that even I don't think I'll make 10 😂

[quiet beacon]

Yes but it was an exaggeration to make the system seem far worse than it is.

[latent nimbus]

Lol

[grizzled crow]

I did try to see if you could have perma rain with Greenhouse or Farm in Gloom, and noticed you couldn't (I imagined someone alrady had tested it)

[latent nimbus]

Not really my intention

Ah. Thanks for checking kumajuhl

[grizzled crow]

would have been nice to have both lol

[latent nimbus]

Yeah. Would have saved a card swap

[merry briar]

The need for extra bases will end up being because of the building cap limit. If you intend to play alone it likely won't hinder you much. I HATE playing alone. It's so much more fun to share with friends or family. I usually only cook in game for myself and hubs and one stove isn't enough sometimes. One mortar station is also not enough you need oil and spice for the good foods and they capped crafting to a stack.

[grizzled crow]

I play alone atm (was playing with friend but he stopped) and I still have 2 of each refinement station 😂

[fallow wolf]

I have 2 or 3 of some because of how long it takes to refine

making oil or broth or aromatics... oof

[grizzled crow]

don't blame you lol

[merry briar]

Don't forget grinding that wheat too

[fallow wolf]

yeah don't remind me

oil though... really. put in 100 seeds and a half hour later . .

[merry briar]

The stack limit is rough. If I have 600 seeds let me do it all at once.

I am excited for the queuing of extra tasks when it comes

[grizzled crow]

(I have some oil going while I adventure lol)

[fallow wolf]

yeah, I'll queue LOTS of oil

[merry briar]

I have a chest full of seeds right now to make into oil but can't bring myself to stop planting lol

[fallow wolf]

man.... now that I can properly grow sanguineberries . . . used obsidian glass and t5 forest fibre oil

[slate sonnet]

If you grow fibre from a seed do you harvest by hand still?

[fallow wolf]

depends on the fibre. if it is the tiered stuff you use the sickle

[slate sonnet]

Neat - so that could be optimised with cards too

[merry briar]

Greenhouse is currently the best for tiered fibre

[fallow wolf]

this

[slate sonnet]

ah, so just rolled into wheat/oats farm

[merry briar]

We can not turn the luminous Fibre into seeds. I wanted to play with it.

[slate sonnet]

how about hoe berries? guessing none of the special node materials

not that they're any use yet, but I assume they'll have useful properties eventually

[fallow wolf]

listed on the sheet. does not create seeds. however dulcet lapis creates seeds but does not grow

[slate sonnet]

apologies, I've just been reading the conversation here, I'll refer to the sheet before asking

[fallow wolf]

and if it isn't in the sheet, someone hasn't tried and commented

you know what I don't get... shepherd's pie uses dough. it should be using mashed potatoes

[slate sonnet]

ought to use both

[fallow wolf]

I've never ever ever seen a shepherd's pie recipe use dough. That's pot pie

[slate sonnet]

fair, does in my cuisine, where pot pies don't exist. does seem like it's more common without a pie crust.

[fallow wolf]

yeah, pot pie and shepherd's pie are different things

one uses a dough crust and top... like a pie

the other uses no crust and mashed potato top

[slate sonnet]

"In the 1850s the term was also used for a Scottish dish that contained a mutton and diced potato filling inside a pastry crust.[9]" I think the term's been used for a lot of things. Perhaps it's more specific where you're from, that's ok.

[fallow wolf]

I feel like I need an entire floor of mortar stations and stoves

ohhh I think I'm going to love my beef wellington

lasts an hour

all thanks to actually being able to grow things

[final dock]

And if you play Feast minor card before eating beef Wellington, food effect will last for couple of hours 🙂

[versed hawk]

mmm beef wellington that fills you up just like real life

[pseudo fable]

hey guys. I try to finally get some wheat. I am running Herbalism extreme. Can this spawn there? I only found potatos so far

[knotty tide]

i tryed the lvl 20 forest and found massive amounts there

[grizzled crow]

I would recommend a lvl 60/80 realm, that's usually where I found mine. At extreme I believe that's antiquarian/astrolabe

[quiet beacon]

There is guaranteed wheat at Danu’s hut in the Swamp Gloom. Should be enough to get some seeds going.

[heavy dome]

In all honesty, I would entirely remove the plot-by-pot farming system and add prefab greenhouse structures that don't require micromanaging

Nobody has time for this kind of thing

[knotty tide]

descend idea for a greenhouse system, but heres maybe a better varient. "greenhouse building set" with greenhouse plots, you'd still need to water them (in the 1800s there was no automation system like sprinklers) so you'd need to still water them but that could increase yield or speed up the growth

[crimson widget]

I put lots of pots, and once in a while they stop growing, so I delete pots and place again and Voila Voila Voila it works again..

[knotty tide]

ye the farming is still broken, i'd suggest them setting up a tester server and make a TS version of the game where people go on and test stuff (like r6s as a example) easiest was to get fast returns on issues in my opinion

[heavy dome]

Perhaps instead of "sprinklers" some sort of rain collection and distribution system

[whole osprey]

can't add to the spreadsheet. can some add that Plant fiber ( Hemp) and Plant fiber( Flax ) can grow but its bugged and produces plant fiber ( crude)

[latent nimbus]

so unless i missed it in the spreadsheet....can someone add what realms are best for finding each item. Ive seen people ask, but the messages get so long to scroll through to find this. And it might be useful to have a tab detailing what cards/what realms are best to grow what crops

[viscid agate]

you'd be better off checking the materials spreadsheet

https://discord.com/channels/854679517997695016/1212256452249657505

https://discord.com/channels/854679517997695016/1211441254454394881

[granite lily]

is there any particular material I should be making my watering can(s) out of? Looking at the ornate, it has inv capacity and magick power on it, does the magick power help with anything?

[wet glacier]

For those using separate realm/s for farming, make sure you have some seed saved in your home. The realm i’d been using for farming disappeared last night and I’d not kept spare seeds for som crops so will have to build up them up again once I find them

[viscid agate]

Automaton pawn is the only material that affects it. It has +inventory capacity which make it hold more water

You can’t put spells on watering cans so Magick power doesn’t do anything

[mild widget]

blueberry indoors in a planterbox with some close by lights should work? blueberries grow fine for me.

[limber thunder]

Same happened here too >.<

[fallow wolf]

I added some more pictures to the spreadsheet. At some point I'll be crawling through the other conversation to see what I can pull out of it

the ones I added were thanks to @grizzled crow

[fallow wolf]

One of my rooms disappeared too but thankfully it didn't have seeds in that one and I had already decided to keep backup seeds in my homeroom

[marble willow]

I tested Papyrus seed and it yielded Crude Plant Fibre 🫤

[grizzled crow]

forgot to add that comment into the google sheet, thanks for reminder 🙂

[paper coral]

Papyrus seeds wanst meant to be obtainable the dev said

Also: im buying Papyrus seeds if anyone has any to sell, just cuz i like the flower

[solid hornet]

I need the metal that gives me 20% health. The table says I need T1 Fablet Knight. Who gives that?

I killed an Automaton Knight, but he didn't drop it for me

[grizzled crow]

Should probably ask in a different place since this is farming as in crop farms, but Knights are the big automatons in the desert... if it's T1 then you want to try anything below lvl 140 most likely? (I forget when T2 starts). You can also get mechanical wheels from T3 rooks and convert them to ingots, but I'm not sure if you're in T3 zones yet.

[solid hornet]

Where can I find this Fabled Knight? There are only the normal Automaton Knights running around in the desert

[paper coral]

this is a farming plants section

[paper coral]

I think you find them at site of power but they wont drop loot I think. When you kill a automaton that drops loot you have to farm it with mining pick.

[hardy schooner]

Does the settler card also increase crop yields?

[merry briar]

looks like it increases growth time.

[merry briar]

I think the fabled one might be the super speedy one that flys/floats around the desert. Might try following the animal head on your mini-map. I can't remember for absolute certain though

[vestal sleet]

except the oil. which was very confusing to me at first lol

[pseudo fable]

hey, i need chamomile for an quest. On the difficulty extreme, where should i look for these? I can go up to Gloom right now. In the Guidebook it says 1 - ~150. But after looking for like 2 hrs in low Antiquarian Forest i guess its not around low level

[fallow wolf]

#1211073684140462190 shows some info

[rigid canopy]

You need to search around structures. Ones with fences, for example.

[granite lily]

I've had luck in a hard herbarium swamp. if you have access to gloom swamps, Danu's hut has some (along with other flowers) growing in/around it

[pseudo fable]

thank you guys

[grizzled crow]

for Chamomille, if you haven't found it, I find it easy to find in swamps.

Usually they are found with Tulips under floating Ruins

[golden forge]

Does the use of gertrude or pteridomania pots increase yield or make a difference compared to just using plant boxes?

[slate sonnet]

From reading here nobody seems to have found a difference between them

[analog crest]

So there is no noticeable difference. I plan on running some tests myself to see what I can find, but I will say the hitboxes for watering is what makes the smoler pots less...liked for me for farming. I use the pteridomania pots for decor flowers mostly. Also because the smaller the pot the weirder the plants look in them when grown. There's also the fact of the build limit with them, as (and this is not confirmed but if an inflexion team member would like to confirm or deny that would be amazing.) it seems that the larger plots count as more than one. Additionally since the already found structures count towards the build limit it really makes for some....difficult moments of having to look for and search for the pre-built chests and stuff so you can break them and then be done with them.

[analog crest]

So after testing, can confirm this. Normal plants do not have different yields when in the simple pot, pteridomania or plant box. I do not have the other type to test with. HOWEVER, wheat does seem to have a bit of a higher yeild when waiting to harvest? Idk...sometimes I get more sometimes i get less.

[minor widget]

Okay, this is driving me a little insane so I have to ask.
Has anyone here ever had a... disappearing potato seeds problem? 🙃

[versed hawk]

Is your seeds chest marked for survivor use, and is your survivor planting them?

cuz no I've never had seeds disappear

[minor widget]

Sadly no, no such simple explanation 😅 I will add that I've never 'misplaced' anything before... I'm super attentive, never use auto-fill while crafting, etc.
I just for the life of me can't explain wth happened to those seeds. I used one potato (tuber) to make a farm card, turned the others into seeds, then when I went to plant them... gone.

[drowsy merlin]

I had this happen one time, though for me it was onions. I will say that when I exited the game, verified the files (just cause i'm paranoid) and than got back into the game I didn't have the seeds but I had the onions I had turned into seeds back in the food to seeds chest I made.

[silver flower]

This is a really long post and don't know if this has been mentioned, but when I started growing wheat I noticed the planter boxes overlap and still grow wheat while saving a lot of space.

[minor widget]

Paranoia pays, it seems! Thank you for your insight, I'm going to try that myself!

[golden forge]

Does anybody know what level realms are best for finding Carrots and Snapdragon? I know they are not yet growable but I would like to get some before they are

[golden forge]

Found carrots on a medium forest provisioner 🙂 Now just need to find Snapdragon

[knotty tide]

carrots can be found on any forest card, snapdragons ive had seen in hunt and above

[golden forge]

Is snapdragon definitely desert though? Glossary says it is but have read reports of it being on Forest though I think they might have been mistaking it for Delpinium

[tidal shuttle]

defintaly desert

[knotty tide]

its in deserts, if im not mistaken theres some pots with them near victors tower

[golden forge]

cheers

[lilac cairn]

hello there is anyone have a image of flax ?

[burnt lintel]

From what I've seen, it comes from these little packs around the map randomly.

It also has the place holder of fiber in inventory.

@lilac cairn

[vagrant bobcat]

are all crops working now? or are there some still bugged?

[zealous spire]

@lilac cairn Flax bags that yeild raw flax as a fibre are found in Ascended Antiquarian Swamps.
They look like this.

Farming Changes in 0.1.3:

• Carrots now yield the proper plant but are only yielding 1 carrot per harvest even with a Farm card played and a Charm of Bounty attached to one or more items used while harvesting. 😦

[zealous spire]

@vagrant bobcat - Flax does not currently yield flax but only yields CRUDE fibre.

• Delphinium now yields the proper item and does give 3 or so of itself when harvesting.

[zealous spire]

• Planting Snapdragon yields Marigolds. The visual plant still appears to be identical to the Delphinium

• Planting hemp seeds still yields Crude fibre.

[lilac cairn]

Thx !

[marble willow]

I'm getting 1-3 Carrots per harvest, with only Charm of Bounty (no realm bonuses. Swamp Abeyance + Settler Apogean card)

[primal dawn]

Is there another way to take out seeds when planted? Mine weren't working either and I ended up breaking down the plant box amd rebuilding/planting and got sunflowers.

[zealous spire]

You can use build mode to disassemble the boxes/planter pots and then get the seeds and then rebuild the box/planter pot. That is the only way to remove seeds from them.

You don't have to break/hit/destroy them, you can just use build mode.

[primal dawn]

thank you!

[sour pumice]

Just tested this at <t:1712301900:f> and out of 7 carrot seeds in simple plant pots, I got a total yield of 18 carrots. Forest / Herbarium realm, Farm card played. Charm of Bounty on Hat and Mystic Watering can (equipped when harvesting)

[sour pumice]

2nd test, same configuration except 100 seeds this time. Total yield was 203 carrots. So an average of 2.03 per seed (probably realistically an average of 2).

[slow kiln]

Any good gazpacho recipes after the patch? Ty so much for your beef wellington recipe iceheart. Just finished a batch of it.

[mild widget]

guys all my carrot seeds and tomato seeds completely dissepeared? and i cant find them in any chests at my base or at my garden. where do i find them again? since well theres not really a map for that. and my hemp fiber seeds turn into normal plant fiber it still hasnt been fixed.

[lofty pivot]

Report your loss as a bug.

[fallow wolf]

Katari summoned me to update a certain spreadsheet

even if it isn't pinned here anymore

[marble willow]

Coffee crops are harvestable with a sickle, it's faster (goes straight into inventory instead of dropping on the ground) and gives higher yield

I wouldn't consider it problematic anymore

[fallow wolf]

feel free to add comments to it btw. 🙂 I haven't been playing much so I'm not exactly being good about catching those but since there's been an update I'll try to pay attention now

[analog crest]

You can also @analog crest (me) and I will come running when not at work. After all I was the one who started the spreadsheet and will happily help to keep it updated even if hyperfixations have me on stardew valley for now

[tiny folio]

I wish everything was harvestable that way, honestly.

[mild widget]

is rice an ingame plant? or was i just hallicinating lastnight?