below-zero-chat

[azure vortex]

i hate the bug that you sometimes cant pick that last piece of ore from the veins tho

[broken badge]

Well except to get the one thing, for ion, I prefer using the snowfox or waking on land tbh

[azure vortex]

its just stuck in there, smirking

[ashen jolt]

Why, it’s fun to do, and the ice worm can’t hit the prawn, you are inconceivable on land

[timid crest]

Oh my god that happened to me with the first and only MAGNETITE vein I’ve found. I died

[ashen jolt]

No land creature can damage the prawn

[azure vortex]

it happens to me... EVERYTIME

[broken badge]

Oh the iceworm definitely can hit the prawn, can destroy it quickly too

[west jackal]

im not sure but doesnt the gold mushroom zone produce heat also its near the lilly pad area

[ashen jolt]

It just clips through it

[azure vortex]

everyy single veins i looted always have that last piece i cant pick up

[elder oyster]

why can i not build a bulkhead on one side of the T junctions like at all

[broken badge]

Factually incorrect for the iceworm

[turbid cairn]

you can use the uhh gravity gun thingy to move the rock to get the missed pieces

[ashen jolt]

Does nothing to it on switch

[azure vortex]

its literally drives me crazy to the point of me noclipping to grab it

[ashen jolt]

Must be a bug, I can get a video if you want

[azure vortex]

then the game crashed

[timid crest]

I should make a propulsion cannon to grab things like that

[elder oyster]

you're supposed to use the propulsion cannon to get the rocks out of the way of the blocked ore veins

[timid crest]

Wait fr

[elder oyster]

fr

[timid crest]

Huh. The more you know

[ashen jolt]

I use a spy pangwin on land when that happens

[turbid cairn]

yes propulsion cannon

[ashen jolt]

Really annoying

[turbid cairn]

thats the name

[ashen jolt]

Wait that’s a thing

[elder oyster]

literally can't build bulkheads on this junction and i hate it

[elder oyster]

yes

[azure vortex]

too lazy

i got the bp from the beginning but still not craft it

[ashen jolt]

Is it a hallway or just a link way (built by two things next to each other)

[elder oyster]

it's 1/3 of a T junction

[ashen jolt]

Yeah idk then

[turbid cairn]

yeah i craft a multiple of anything so i can have one at every base haha

[elder oyster]

this one won't take a bulkhead, but the other two will

same on the other side where i built a control room

[timid crest]

It’s the scanner room, the same thing happens to me

[ashen jolt]

Scanner room always causes issues

[elder oyster]

is that just a thing you can't build it into the connector of scanner/control rooms?

[timid crest]

Yep

[fickle pebble]

What are "surface hatches"? Never seen them in BZ

[west jackal]

achievement unlocked: ADD

[elder oyster]

Exactly what you think they are 😛

I'll show you a screenshot

[fickle pebble]

But how come ive never seen them

[ashen jolt]

You can put a bulkhead outside on land I think

[elder oyster]

because you never built a base on the surface

[timid crest]

Does the first subnautica have glass dome roofs?

[ashen jolt]

That might be it

[elder oyster]

nah

[ashen jolt]

Not yet

[fickle pebble]

Since when can you build bases on the surface

[elder oyster]

since always

[fickle pebble]

Wut

[elder oyster]

even in og subnautica you can

[ashen jolt]

Did you play the first game

[fickle pebble]

I played both

[azure vortex]

i killed it.

[ashen jolt]

There was parts in the stories of both where there are bases on land

[fickle pebble]

Yeah I know

[azure vortex]

dw, i got the respawn mod so it'll respawn back

[spice seal]

When you build a hatch above water, it will turn into a bulkhead instead of a hatch and build stairs down to the ground, like the ruined bases in BZ and SN

[broken badge]

I asked what the surface hatches are and it’s just how you can have stairways

[elder oyster]

you build a hatch on the end of a tube and you get a door and stairs

[ashen jolt]

Why is it purple

[elder oyster]

highlight interactables

[fickle pebble]

Woweww I never knew that

[ashen jolt]

Oh

[bold monolith]

Because she has highlight interactable.

[fickle pebble]

Thats cool

[azure vortex]

Subnautica and the Sea in general is the reason why we rather explore space than explore something literally on our planet

[broken badge]

You can pick the color for the highlight, it’s nice

[azure vortex]

[elder oyster]

Mhm.

and I picked purple. I have problems with observing things in the world, so it's a nice feature

[fickle pebble]

But why would you ever want to base on land?

[broken badge]

Why not?

Nice views

[fickle pebble]

Because on land movement is glitchy as heck lol

[elder oyster]

the stairbulder is a bit buggy tho

[bold monolith]

Not in experimental. (The land movements.)

[broken badge]

It’s never been glitchy for me, moving on land

[elder oyster]

i can't even play experimental

[fickle pebble]

Movement on land feels unnatural to me

[elder oyster]

game just won't start

it's better in below zero

[west jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-a-little-trolling-subnautica-sunbeam-gif-21440629

[fickle pebble]

But still bad, most of the glitches ive experienced were on land especially with the snow fox

[sand falcon]

[elder oyster]

the worst glitch i ever get is "SpawnNearby Failed" when getting off the snowfox in an awkward spot

[fickle pebble]

Maybe my game was glitched but everytime some worm attacked me it did 0 damage

[azure vortex]

broke the game again...

[elder oyster]

the worms damage is kinda weird

[fickle pebble]

I could literally afk over the worms and never worry about dying

[turbid cairn]

it took me a while to figure out that both subnautica and below zero take place on the same planet

[ashen jolt]

I wish there was a special thing for speedrunning the ]
REDACTED so you could shut it down and get on the sunbeam

[azure vortex]

i can feel the hatred from the devs cuz of how many times i broke the game

[west jackal]

same

[elder oyster]

also the worm doesn't attack you if you stand still fun fact

[fickle pebble]

Wuttt they do????

[ashen jolt]

Bro I want extra storage modules

[bold monolith]

Speedrunners finish the game before Sunbeam messages.

[azure vortex]

[ashen jolt]

Also wth can you put in the snow fox upgrade slot

[fickle pebble]

The worm is lowkey the worst enemy ever to exist

[turbid cairn]

what do you mean?

[azure vortex]

they speedrun the virus

[elder oyster]

not so bad in a prawn suit lmfao

[fickle pebble]

I didnt know that

[azure vortex]

i thought that you get virus from eating fishes from the seas and drinking the water from it

[turbid cairn]

oh sry i should have marked it as spoilers

[fickle pebble]

Its not a spoiler

[elder oyster]

iirc you get it just by swimming around for an hour or so.

or being near infected fish?

[buoyant kiln]

Enhanced Game Mode.... Hmmm. Maybe we can get the True Survival mode for the game. No story, no PDAs, everything unlocked. Just Survive. :3

[azure vortex]

so my 2nd play through was just me constantly dying or finding food thats not man made

[elder oyster]

but the game just forces it to happen depending on how far into the key story events you are.

[turbid cairn]

well they do say the name of the planet at the start so i guess not

[elder oyster]

they don't in og sn

it's only in the pda logs.

[fickle pebble]

What a coincidence that both times yiu land on the parts that are not dead zones. While the vast majority of the planet is

[azure vortex]

the devs specifically make Snowfox for land but i use my prawn suit swinging around and say F you to the physic law

[deep kettle]

Pretty sure you can do this already. From what I remember at least.

[azure vortex]

if you want to outrun the worm with style, swing around with full speed in your prawn suit

[elder oyster]

I mean, you can just ignore the story and keep going the game doesn't care.

also god the prawn suit is too fast

[azure vortex]

i managed to trigger like 5 times worm comes out of the ground at the same time

[fickle pebble]

I still dont quite get why they made above ground so big while its easily the worst part of the game. Underwater feels so much more natural

[azure vortex]

i thought theres more than 1

[obsidian carbon]

Prawn is better
Snowfox doesn’t have a drill lol

[ashen jolt]

Prawn suit swiftness upgrade

[azure vortex]

snowfox is so annyoing to drive tbh...

[turbid cairn]

haha yeah prawn is the best tbh

[deep kettle]

But what's the point in having a drill with no lead resource deposits! :(

[elder oyster]

doesn't prawn already have no max speed when using thrust?

[ashen jolt]

Also who’s idea was it to remove the prawn haul upgrades

[elder oyster]

(also it walks faster when you forward + strafe)

[fickle pebble]

Everything thats not underwater is

[ebon reef]

Ikr like a game of rodeo when the ice worm is chasing you

[elder oyster]

that's why i'd rather be in prawn in arctic spires

you don't get kicked out of it every time the ice worm decides to toot in your zip code

[ashen jolt]

Wait are you serious, all this time scaning for one and they are not in the game

[elder oyster]

no lead, no lithium

[ashen jolt]

I am about to lose my last brain cells

I will be down to 5

[azure vortex]

i've been play sub for like 3 years now... and 2 days ago was the first time i realize: Wait... I can use 2 drills!

[ashen jolt]

Wait does it kill 2x as fast

[turbid cairn]

no gravitite either

[elder oyster]

magnetite* yes

[azure vortex]

yes but you wont have the grappling hook to attach ur prawn suit to it.

[ebon reef]

I had to use it to get to the ||alien thingy|| xd threw me off about 20 times though lmao

[turbid cairn]

im so bad with the name i swear

[elder oyster]

tho glacial bay/||phi robotics|| has enough magnetite to give everyone in the world one

[turbid cairn]

haha true

[elder oyster]

lead is legit the hardest resource to keep a good stock of

and yeah i took the prawn suit

[hidden plover]

I remember this bug in Subnautica.. I'm not sure it was a bug, but it was from grappling Reapers lmao

[ashen jolt]

I have killed just about anything that’s not a reaper with the drill just to learn 4 jump jet upgrades are outshined by a grappling arm

SMH

[elder oyster]

there's ||large nodes of ion cubes|| out there

[turbid cairn]

i just build 10 thermal plants near delta island and thats enough to power 5 bases

[ashen jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/no-proof-i-object-there-is-no-proof-i-object-there-is-no-proof-proof-gif-19164692

[elder oyster]

i can go show you :P

[azure vortex]

I still 1time i was so bored that i bought only my knife and go solo the Reaper like that cool lady

[turbid cairn]

haha

[ashen jolt]

Hey that was my plan

[hidden plover]

I use to hunt Reapers with a prawn suit c: I killed like 4 of them in one game

[azure vortex]

Turns out... my boi aint got the same coolness in him

[ashen jolt]

I think DMs are open

[elder oyster]

i loved building my base near jellyshroom.

[azure vortex]

he got eaten instantly

[ashen jolt]

Yes they are

[elder oyster]

where the hottest area in og sn is

(> 100°C)

[hidden plover]

But they did this thing where when you grapple them.. for some reason their AI drove them straight to the shallows around the pod

[turbid cairn]

oh

good to know then

[elder oyster]

all hostile fish would do this if you hurt them

[ashen jolt]

Jelly shrooms ✅
Eye jellies need to🔥

[turbid cairn]

i have mine at delta island

[azure vortex]

anyone know how to switch everything to my inv or my inv to storage without needing to spam my mouse?

[elder oyster]

eye jelly are toooooo loud D:

[ashen jolt]

Me when I see a eye jelly

[elder oyster]

i kill literally every one of them once they get close enough

[timid crest]

I like the eye jelly noise personally

[bold monolith]

You probably punched them.

[elder oyster]

if it was half the volume

it would be fine

[hidden plover]

Really? Interesting. I never tested it on other stuff. I just grappled and drilled Reapers, and they'd swim in a straight line towards my lifepod

[azure vortex]

guess nobody knows

[elder oyster]

The other ones usually die too quickly.

[bold monolith]

It's a bug that shouldn't exist in BZ.

[elder oyster]

a mod

or rebind interact with mousewheel

[azure vortex]

oooh

[timid crest]

Dude I had no idea the eye jellies actually do you damage. They went from super cool to extremely terrifying, slowly floating towards your truck with murderous intent

[ashen jolt]

What’s stronger a base will a haul score of 1000 or one prawn suit

[bold monolith]

Rebind the interaction key to your mouse wheel.

[elder oyster]

yeah only the bottom of them can hurt you

[hidden plover]

floats with malicious intent

[elder oyster]

but they're too loud for me so I just go around and murder them whenever i'm nearby.

[timid crest]

I just beach my seatruck so they can’t slowly kill it while I’m away lol

[ashen jolt]

Wait they do

[elder oyster]

like, loud enough to drown out the music lmao

[ashen jolt]

I have gone under them many times with no damage

🤷‍♂️

[timid crest]

They’re extremely slow about it

[elder oyster]

i wasn't aware they damaged the seatruck, but they never lasted long enough for me to really notice

[hidden plover]

I honestly wish I had made multiple bases in BZ. I can't recall if I did or not

[elder oyster]

i don't like maintaining multiple bases

[hidden plover]

I haven't played it since I got the Platinum trophy, and I need to play it again

[elder oyster]

i tried making one in lily pads to try and scan for sea monkey fragments

[ashen jolt]

I just leave bio reactors in them and power them as needed

Shrub nuts do a good job

[azure vortex]

i still remember that i can open prawn suit inv when im inside in sub... BZ doesnt have that no more

[elder oyster]

yeah

that was the plan

[ashen jolt]

Food and power as needed

[broken badge]

A root pustule or two will last a long time

[elder oyster]

but you can't scan for sea monkey nests

[ashen jolt]

That was the best feature

[azure vortex]

ikr...

[elder oyster]

and they don't count as fragments

[ashen jolt]

I wish we could open it when it’s docked to the sea truck

It would make since to be able to

[timid crest]

I have two bases in BZ, my main one in the lilypads and a tiny one by the twisties that I’m probably gonna move a bit

[elder oyster]

i have my main base in twisty

near a big cliff where i can get table coral fairly easily

[timid crest]

It’s turned into a little outpost for when I’m going to places farther off in that direction

[ashen jolt]

My main is above kopa

[hidden plover]

I have my main base near the pod. Cause I didn't feel like moving it

[ashen jolt]

My mini is in the Lilly caves

brb need to download the patch that just droped

[broken badge]

Initial base I put in twisty below where that floating deck is with the electric cable, there’s a nice flat area under it. And then I build in upper lilypads

[azure vortex]

THERES 1 more!!!!

[ashen jolt]

My switch says there are no updates for this software

[elder oyster]

i also only just learned the other day that this was a thing

[azure vortex]

i thought i clapped all shadow leviathan... turns out theres 1 more

[ashen jolt]

Does it roll out overtime or something?

[azure vortex]

homie scream makes me scared...

[broken badge]

Did the ladder disappear?

[elder oyster]

no you can just climb up the edge

[broken badge]

Ah

[elder oyster]

the specific animation makes me think it was intentional

[ashen jolt]

YOOOO

[azure vortex]

i wonder what the next game devs will make?

[candid basin]

99% sure edge climbing is intentional

[azure vortex]

who need silvers?

theres 2 more bh me as well

[candid basin]

Subnautica 3: Above Zero

[azure vortex]

Space next no more sea

[elder oyster]

proof that it is indeed intentional

[austere reef]

I heard the next entry into the series will have multiplayer 😮

[ashen jolt]

Imagine if you could attach the seatruck TP to a prawn

[azure vortex]

we believe you bro xd

no need for 100% proof.

homie got called liar too many times i guess

[elder oyster]

homie is just bad at getting jokes

[candid basin]

Hey now, don't hate on the scientific method

[frozen scaffold]

Since when could the dock be climbed on??

[broken badge]

I’ve just never noticed it before I think, the mantle option

[bold monolith]

EA.

[elder oyster]

you won't see it where there's a railing or floaties

[ashen jolt]

Imagine if we could have a laser cutter prawn arm that could be used as a deffense wepon

[frozen scaffold]

I never knew lol

[ashen jolt]

Like a stinger of sorts

[elder oyster]

it's pretty specific and the stairs kinda discourage even looking for it lmao

[bold monolith]

You don't use it often.

[broken badge]

The devs would be against that option that’s why @ashen jolt

[frozen scaffold]

Yes i always used the stairs

[ashen jolt]

I know

[candid basin]

I just jump the seatruck to land

[broken badge]

I mean you can use drill arm as defense

[frozen scaffold]

Have y'all finished bz?

[candid basin]

Too many times

[frozen scaffold]

Welp RIP my name

But anyway, how long did it take you on the first playthrough?

[ashen jolt]

Couter point, how come crazy lady that i forget the name of gets basicly that but its pure bone

[elder oyster]

> 24h

excuse me

[candid basin]

Figure out how to whittle bone ig and you can too

[elder oyster]

the game just 100% killed me out of nowhere. I picked up a rock and dead.

[bold monolith]

You need a better gaming chair.

[elder oyster]

I was not doing anything that would kill me lmao

[frozen scaffold]

Were u far into the game?

[candid basin]

The rock was the virus the whole time

[elder oyster]

very

[ashen jolt]

Because I have a launch version that the joycon glitch works with

[frozen scaffold]

Well that sucks

[carmine bobcat]

I hope that they add some kind of feature in below zero 2.0 that allows you to go back in a save

[broken badge]

Sorry but you can’t discuss illegal modding here, even as joke

[carmine bobcat]

Like rewind time

But like go back to a previous save

[ashen jolt]

Oh right my bad, I am guessing its because its a liabity

[broken badge]

Yeah

Because it breaks ToS

[elder oyster]

that is genuinely upsetting

[ashen jolt]

Dang you Nintendo and your dum rules

[broken badge]

It’s not just them, any sort of modding (illegal type) can’t be discussed here

[candid basin]

Feels like you hit an error state and death was the solution, that does suck @elder oyster

[elder oyster]

that shouldn't be an option in hardcore

[worn orbit]

remember: all penguins have criminal tendencies

[candid basin]

Agreed

[carmine bobcat]

Damn they really gotta do that don't they

[elder oyster]

losing 15 hours of work to some random bug is really 😠

I can't swear here because puritanical server rules but I am genuinely mad

[carmine bobcat]

Like dammnn can't you just tp the player

[ashen jolt]

Quickly get a unkown worlds dev cosplay and sneek in to make this cannon (for legal reasons I must state this is a joke)

[carmine bobcat]

Did the game feally f up that bad

[worn orbit]

it’s canon in real life it should be canon in subnautica

[ashen jolt]

wait it is a real fact

one sec

[worn orbit]

from a documentary

[candid basin]

It's happened to me in SN, game spawned an object inside me, like 10+ hours into HC. Worst way to go

[worn orbit]

idk if that documentary was true but

[ashen jolt]

Oh wow

[carmine bobcat]

🤓 Um, actually, they aren't penguins, they are an alien species called Penglings. Not Penguins. 🤓

[ashen jolt]

Yeah that should be cannon

[tight brook]

is snowfox still not good to drive?

[worn orbit]

y o u are a pengling

[candid basin]

...wuts wrong with the snowfox?

[ashen jolt]

the prawn is better in every way

snowfox is just fun

[carmine bobcat]

Nah man the prawn is how my game got hard locked

[broken badge]

It’s a bit wobbly but I like the snowfox. It’s fine especially for areas without iceworms

[ashen jolt]

What happened?

[candid basin]

Disagree, SF if faster to get to OOB test area

[elder oyster]

Well, good thing I have a backup I guess

[ashen jolt]

A clone savefile is needed so bad

[carmine bobcat]

Grappling hook on land in the buggy af switch addition

[elder oyster]

or just don't kill the player when they're in hardcore

[carmine bobcat]

I clipped into the wall

[broken badge]

The point is everyone has different likes, there’s nothing really wrong with snowfox, if you don’t want to use it no biggie. But some do like it

[elder oyster]

Or if you have to

[ashen jolt]

I mean I have started falling through the map on switch

[carmine bobcat]

Next thing I know I was in the backrooms

[elder oyster]

move them instead of killing them

[carmine bobcat]

Jk

[ashen jolt]

I had to reley on my jump jet upgrades to save my prawn

[tight brook]

from what i remember it used to be really janky

[carmine bobcat]

But I couldn't get out of the wall

I was under the map

Too far down to hover

[broken badge]

Well you certainly don’t want to get the snowfox around water

[ashen jolt]

I have gotten super close to that many times

[carmine bobcat]

And guess what

[ashen jolt]

if it wasn't for jump jet upgrades I would be in the same boat as you

[carmine bobcat]

The reason why I had the prawn on land to begin with was to get the ion cubes in the glacial spikes area

[broken badge]

That’s the only thing I take the prawn on land to do, and after that, I don’t ever take it back again

[carmine bobcat]

I got stuck after mining all of them

[elder oyster]

there is a void out plane but it's too far down to be useful

[carmine bobcat]

So I basically had a prawn full of ion cubes

full storage

[broken badge]

That’s why you save often
Praying might help idk

[ashen jolt]

I used it to grab that one vain of magnesium on the roof in the Phi robotics bay

[carmine bobcat]

Keep in mind that I had already used all the other ion cubes found naturally in the game

[candid basin]

I lol'd

[carmine bobcat]

Maybe there's a generator in the hosital cavers

Idk

[elder oyster]

i never saw a generator for ion cubes

[broken badge]

For ion cubes? They don’t regenerate

[elder oyster]

they are a limited resource

[eternal garnet]

there are total 4 minable stacks

[candid basin]

There's an infinite drill spot I thought

[ashen jolt]

I wish after you got all avaible ones

[elder oyster]

but by the end of the game if you find all of them you'll have like a hundred anyway

[ashen jolt]

they slowly regenerated

but it took like a month of ingame days for 1

[broken badge]

So I guess if you’re worried about the prawn falling thru, the moral of that story is don’t mine them all at once in one trip

[ashen jolt]

to regen

[carmine bobcat]

But why not tho

[elder oyster]

nevermind i don't have a save backup

[broken badge]

They don’t regen in BZ

[elder oyster]

filehistory never copied the snappdata folder

[carmine bobcat]

They regened in subnautica

[elder oyster]

you could also only get 3 at a time :/

[carmine bobcat]

In subnautica the moment you find the aquarium you get infinite ion cubes

[broken badge]

I’m not a dev, but there probably was a reason.
I mean I can’t imagine using all the cubes you can mine from the stacks as is

[elder oyster]

in bz you can find up to 100 dotted around the map lmao

[candid basin]

Yeah if you need inf your more asking for a creative mode for shenanigans. Which I'm not against

[broken badge]

Not to mention you can use commands to make more (sorry Switch)

[candid basin]

God I'm glad that made it to PS

Kinda

[ashen jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/cali8-im-not-crying-your-crying-patrick-gif-11976563

[wicked vortex]

So I got the PPU and went to the signal tower on delta island but I have no idea how to insert it

[bold monolith]

You need to craft the test override module.

[wicked vortex]

I already did

oh

so it's something different from the parallel processing unit

[bold monolith]

Which requires the PPU as an ingredient.

[wicked vortex]

oh, okay

[elder oyster]

ye

anyway, guess it's time to start again

i will finish this game on hardcore

[ashen jolt]

WAIT

WAIT, WAIT, HOLD UP.... The snowstalker crazy lady has is eating a BLUE TABLET

Does this confrim the cahces from the first game are near

Lore wise

[weary slate]

The amount of money I'd give if they made the next subnautica go beyond 15k meters

[ashen jolt]

You mean 1.5K?

[weary slate]

Yea

[elder oyster]

i need to remove all the backup stuff my computer has set up because most of it doesn't exist any more lmao

[ashen jolt]

I would want the Seatruck 20xx that we see in the poaster to be crafttable endgame

[weary slate]

Having the game be less lore driven and more open worldy imo would be awesome

Kinda like the first game

[ashen jolt]

The longer you play, the smaller the map feels

[weary slate]

Yeah definitely

[small bronze]

Yeah x)

[weary slate]

But the more layed out the game is in terms of storyline/steps that must be taken before getting to x, the smaller the game seems as well

[small bronze]

The story of below zero is very small and im sad of it

I want to play subnautica below zero but i have nothing to do so...

[broken badge]

One of the goals of adding the custom game settings (which I can’t go into details about) is to add more replayability by letting players dial in things more to their liking or preferences

[eternal garnet]

you can see it in experimental

[broken badge]

Oh that’s cool, I keep forgetting about that

[ashen jolt]

I am gonna buy the game on steam just to play the experimental verisons

[broken badge]

Still a lot of players don’t have access to experimental

[weary slate]

Huh, Interesting stuff

[ashen jolt]

Yeah I think taking a page out of minecrafts book when it comes to bedrock experimental feautures is needed at some point

A system like that would work perfect for subnatica after 2.0 comes out

[broken badge]

I think people are going to really like messing around with those options

[small bronze]

If we make the greature the most agresiv
Do the fish attack us ?

[ashen jolt]

No small ores

only drillable ones

And the ones from nest, tiny vains

[broken badge]

What?

[ashen jolt]

just a few ideas for what players may do with it

[broken badge]

I don’t recall that being something you adjust, it’s more like creature aggression, oxygen warnings, crafting adjustments, like vegan run, and some things along those lines.

[small bronze]

I have try one time a party without eating fish
||i died after a hour :c ||

[broken badge]

Weather effects as well

[ashen jolt]

vegan run
I wont be suprised if I see a PETA post about this, considering they protested in animal crossing about the museum

[broken badge]

It takes some looking into, like how you could make water/water bottles specifically when you can’t use bladderfish for example (in Subnautica it’s not a problem because you can make bleach)

I’m not sure it’s been finalized yet

[ashen jolt]

You have to rely on premade ones

Or just eat kelp

[small bronze]

Yeah i died becuze u need to drink so much water that at the beginign its so hard

[broken badge]

The player needs a way to make water, but yeah kelp might be something that’s considered, I just don’t know tbn

[small bronze]

Maybe using kelp or a plant like that for making water can be cool

Or ice..

[broken badge]

Later on you can use water tabs

[small bronze]

Yeah

[broken badge]

Those are snow and frost vase, right?

[ashen jolt]

Why does the OST cost 10 bucks on steam buts its free on spotify

is it also a license to use the music for you online content or something?

[broken badge]

You can use soundtrack in YouTube videos and such if you’re not making money off of the use of the music (I think, but I’m not an expert on such things)

[small bronze]

I have not understand what do u mean ?
(Im french sorry x) )

Lmao

[ashen jolt]

Salt and frost vase

then snow

[small bronze]

Yeah

[ashen jolt]

Maybe you just have it unlocked from the start if they have a vegan run

[ebon reef]

Literally my cats at 3am

[small bronze]

I agree with that

[ashen jolt]

and frost vase spawns on the iceburgs above the pod

or something like that

[small bronze]

Or a new plant but yeah

I think that can be cool
But anyway how u can make food without fish ?

[ebon reef]

I want macdonalds chips so badly

[small bronze]

Idk why he spam gif...

[lament grove]

What’s your favorite anime

[small bronze]

I dont watch anime

Lmao

Yeah ik im the only person that dont watch anime

[broken badge]

Well they’re not allowed to post for now, back to BZ chat

[small bronze]

Yeah so

[ebon reef]

I don’t either

[small bronze]

Uh
For the food if u start a party vegan how u have to make food ?

[broken badge]

You have to eat plants

[small bronze]

Yeah but what plant
I dont remember to have seen pmant that u can get at the begining

[broken badge]

You can cut creepvine, and those bull shrooms not sure how much food they give

[small bronze]

Mhh ok

[broken badge]

Once you go to delta you get the shrub nuts

[small bronze]

Mhhh nuts

[broken badge]

And pots

[small bronze]

At the 2.0 update do the more story gonna be added ?

[bold monolith]

No.

[small bronze]

Ok

Sad

[hushed jungle]

the enhanced game mode would be sick

[elder oyster]

i am backing up my SN saves now

because of that bug. genuinely still upset

[terse tangle]

Just read the blog post - not even a hint at when BZ 2.0 might come out!?

Based on past experience with this dev, does anyone have any educated guesses? Did they write a blog post now because a patch is imminent, or could it still be months away?

[ashen jolt]

New game+

[broken badge]

They won’t give dates, because development can always have setbacks, so they don’t want to disappoint anyone making promises they can’t keep. They just want to let people know, they’re actively working on these updates because people do ask, frequently, what’s going on behind the scenes. It’ll be worth the wait when it’s all completed Rushing it won’t make it better in the long run. The work requires a lot of testing to make sure it doesn’t break anything else.

[terse tangle]

Yes, I totally understand that. Another way of framing my question: are they just starting this work, or are they nearing completion? Perhaps no one knows, but I'm curious and it would help set my expectations.

[broken badge]

I’m not sure how far along in the process things stand, but the work has being going on for awhile, it’s not “just started” in other words. I would take that as good news I suppose

[potent quartz]

This place is looking a little...DISCORDinated

[noble trellis]

can i play subnautica multiplayer without nitrox?

[last parrot]

no

but unknown worlds is planning on adding multiplayer in subnautica 3 i think

[ashen jolt]

Does anyone have a crystal caves map

||I found the alien stuff, but I can't find my way back to the deep purple vent zone||

[broken badge]

That’s never been confirmed, they’re taking it into consideration but we don’t know anything about the game at this point because development hasn’t started yet

[eternal garnet]

this is East

[elder oyster]

does sn actually delete the hc save once it's loaded and that's why s&q is the only option?

[eternal garnet]

no, it deletes on death

[broken badge]

You can’t save in hardcore it does that when you quit

So you can’t save scum I presume

[eternal garnet]

yes, you can. There's some kind of time limit, possibly

[broken badge]

I’m sure where there’s a will there’s a way

But you’re not intended to just save when doing something risky and keep going

I’m sure if you wanted to be tedious about it you could quit and relog

But as mentioned I’m not sure if there are time limits or something

[ashen jolt]

I mean isn't nitrox open sorce

[broken badge]

There’s too many bugs that can end a run, so hardcore has never appealed to me
Not to mention I’m more of a freedom player myself, although I wouldn’t mind once the enhanced game options come out, trying without oxygen warnings and such

I didn’t think Nitrox was going to be made available for BZ, but I could be wrong about that

[eternal garnet]

the nitrox devs said there's no plan for that. But there is another one-man project

[last parrot]

does anyone remember when this was still in the game?

[eternal garnet]

before summer 2020. EA8, playable on steam with a code

[ashen jolt]

Yes, well at least watching think noodles do it during early acess

[verbal sleet]

What is it?

[eternal garnet]

basically a mail rocket

[last parrot]

it was used to send a DNA sample to Vesper (Sam) before the story completely changed

[elder oyster]

what is the canonical base order for the story?

i'm curious what order you were supposed to visit the bases in (the human ones)

[eternal garnet]

apart from "delta first" there really is no order

You can also do zero first, it doesn't matter

[elder oyster]

functionally i do know that.

IIRC i hit zero first in my first playthrough cus I just stumbled across it

I did just learn that if you find an artifact before ||AL-AN||, it tells you where to find him

[ashen jolt]

||I wonder what would happen if someone found every Architect blueprint before even touching Al An||

[forest maple]

Just beat below zero on hardcore!

[steep needle]

does below zero have a sonar upgrade on seatruck or prawn?

also, can i fling a leviathan with the repulsion cannon of prawn? 🥺 👉 👈

[elder oyster]

i tried to do that but my game decided to just player.health = 0 randomly in the middle of arctic spires

i love how you can move up and down any length of ladder instantly

[slender echo]

what vehicles are in this? i know the seatruck and prawn but is there a seamoth-like sub too or is it only those two

[elder oyster]

seatruck, prawn suit, snowfox

it may have been a mistake to build a 150m tall large alien containment

but it does go up the entire way up each side of the large room and is linked together by one at 75m deep

[steep needle]

is this the void?

[ashen jolt]

There is no void in below zero if irc

Just glaciers that block going any farther

[elder oyster]

yes there is

but it is only on the south end of the bay

it takes the game like 2 seconds to load and figure out what's going on every time i build a ladder or containment lmao

[steep needle]

oh okay thanks

[pine rampart]

seatruck

desk

[steep needle]

does this mean there's an artifact close?

or an alien base

[elder oyster]

I think there's something more interesting close to that pillar

[steep needle]

ok, thanks

[elder oyster]

if you're playing not in creative, it's a story related location

[steep needle]

oke

i'll go with my prawn suit

cant find anything :/

[elder oyster]

what do i do with a 50 floor double aquarium

[steep needle]

i think i already did this tho

it's close

[elder oyster]

maybe.

I mean, you wouldn't have that marker if you hadn't done that thing

i tried to spawn 10000 peepers

i am regretting my decision

[steep needle]

yup i already did this i think

i'm on the mission that its: "source of the alien emergency call"

the seatruck is close

alright, nothing new here

[elder oyster]

rip my frame rate

we're at frames per minute instead of frames per second lmao

[steep needle]

lmaoo

[elder oyster]

steam still thinks the game is running at 46 fps but it definitely isn't lmao

craaaashed

[steep needle]

lmao die.

[elder oyster]

so mean

[steep needle]

he attacked me first 😡

[elder oyster]

rood

[steep needle]

just killed this bozo

[deft yacht]

hi

[elder oyster]

i love how there's a wiki page on Potato

[magic dune]

Should I wait for BZ 2.0 or just buy it now?

[rocky sigil]

just buy it now probably

nothing will be changed expect better performance bug fixes and more base pieces

and bz base pieces will be added to the first game

[magic dune]

I see

and if I wait will it be for so long? I think there's no eta right?

[rocky sigil]

im not sure if there is a marked date since i havent read about it yet but its pretty soon

[timid crest]

How use thermal power

Also do hydrothermal vents work

I put thermal reactors on top of the vents and used power connectors to get it to my base, idk if it’s just creative mode wackiness but it still said my power was at 0

[magic dune]

I see, thanks

[rocky sigil]

i dont think you can use heat vents

[timid crest]

Ah damgit I thought it might work

[last parrot]

is it the vents that have lava or the ones that just shoot up smoke

[timid crest]

Smoke I believe

[last parrot]

you have to put the thermal reactor down if its green instead of yellow

if its yellow

if the thermal reactor is yellow when building it

[timid crest]

The wiki says hydrothermal vents work but maybe I was just doing it wrong

I tried placing it at the base of the vent and then on top

[last parrot]

well i also tried and it didnt work but the vents similar to the ones in subnautica should work

so the ones that are below the surface in small(ish) cracks in the ground

should be in the shallow valleys of the vents

and it should have lava and you should also burn when you get too close (without reinforced dive suits)

[timid crest]

Goodness thermal power is complicated

Might just go with my original plan of a bio or nuclear reactor

[last parrot]

nuclear for sure

just build a base separated from the rest and put it there if you dont want it intruding

if it's close enough then it automatically connects

[timid crest]

I have a hallway that leads to my scanner room, and where the control room was but I’ll probs replace it for the reactor multipurpose room

[last parrot]

dont replace it

[timid crest]

o?

[last parrot]

just build the reactor in a separated building

like so it's not connected to the rest of the base

idk if power connectors work try that and if it doesnt just place it near the base

(use more nuclear reactors if you want to have more power)

im actually going to do this in my 15 hour game rn

[timid crest]

I’m forming a base on creative mode in the crystal caves, bc I want one on my survival save but needed a feel for the biome first

[last parrot]

you're in crystal caves rn?

[timid crest]

ye

I’d use my usual solar power, but I am quite far underground

[last parrot]

yea you have to be uncovered for solar

im actually in crystals rn because i was getting the organs for AL-AN

[elder oyster]

you can't use power in creative, and thermal is based on the temperature value where you place it

it needs to be above 35 iirc or it won't do anything

[timid crest]

Damn. So testing power on creative was useless

[last parrot]

well

you could use console commands and switch to survival

[timid crest]

I can do that?

[last parrot]

yea

[timid crest]

Huh. I thought once you picked the mode it was like that permanently

[elder oyster]

press shift + enter to open the console and type survival

type creative to go back to creative mode

[timid crest]

Ooo

[last parrot]

i was trying to get out of crystals and almost went into fabricator caverns

[elder oyster]

tho survival is kinda bugged i think and the hud won't show up so beware drowning

[timid crest]

That‘ll give me the opportunity to test more things than power

The spot I picked out is close to the entrance, but also in the middle of a shadow leviathan’s path. It patrols directly above me

Which is actually ideal bc I mostly intended this base to be a cool leviathan observatory

[last parrot]

ah

so you have observatories?

[timid crest]

One

Probs will have a glass roof as well but I can’t go too crazy or it’s never gonna hold structurally

[last parrot]

also its a good thing unknown worlds didnt decide to make hostile creatures attack bases

[last parrot]

just add about a zillion foundations and on any free space reinforcements

[timid crest]

I thought they did tbh. Like I could’ve sworn they’d still sense you and attempt to chase, but be unable to when you’re inside

[last parrot]

they do

[timid crest]

Oo

That’ll be cool but also scary

[azure vortex]

saw a post somewhere with like 20 nuclear reactor with the caption: This is America

[carmine bobcat]

so i play scrap mechanic but i used to play bz so i am planning on making a subnautica bz themed build, what should i make (it can be anything)

[whole mulch]

Dont know if this has happened to anyone else but i pressed E to get out of my seatruck seat and it just teleported me out of my truck and onto the ground, i eventually got onto the top of the truck and its gave me the option to exit the truck on the hatch so apparently i was still registered as inside the truck

[lime grove]

guys what should i do with a lot of silver ore

[bold monolith]

Store them as wiring kits.

[lime grove]

so i should use around 30 silver ore and craft them into wiring kits?

[bold monolith]

Having wiring kits is the same as having ores if you have the recyclotron. You just have more space.

[lime grove]

i dont have the recyclotron cause i dont have alan

and i scanned like 2-3 artefacts

[ebon reef]

Lol silver is always the ore I’m low on

[lime grove]

i just went to phi center and found them in these ore veins

there is a lot of it there

[last parrot]

the best way to store the wiring kits is to put it in a quantum storage with 5 other quantum lockers in the world this is about what it should look like (this is in my hardcore world with 16 hours on it btw) and also you dont get alan by scanning artifacts you get him at the sanctuary

[lime grove]

do you think im dumb

i said i scanned 2-3 artifacts

and i already beat the game on 100% achievements

[last parrot]

how would i know that

[lime grove]

know what?

that i scanned 2-3 artifacts?

[last parrot]

that you have 100% achievments

[lime grove]

does it matter

and when i said i have wiring kits

i said i have silver ore

[last parrot]

i know

i was saying that once you get them put them in the quantum lockers for a lot of space

[lime grove]

then why are you telling me things about wiring kits if i dont have them

[last parrot]

i was saying what you can do once you actually have them

[lime grove]

i wasnt even thinking about making them into wiring kits in the first place

[last parrot]

i cant read your mind dude i didnt know you werent planning on doing that

[lime grove]

maybe think if wiring kits are usefull at the start of game

[last parrot]

i mean they are but not for long

then the only real use is for advanced wiring kits for quantum lockers and control rooms

[next quartz]

you can still plant rotten plants right?

they don't disappear or refuse to be planted if you wait too long right?

i never thought to ask lmao

[winter oriole]

Yes

[next quartz]

phew lmao

[winter oriole]

The rotten only affect your ability to eat them

[next quartz]

thanks good to know

[ashen jolt]

Why does karah look a lot like a COVID spore

🤔

[winter oriole]

A covid spore?

[eternal garnet]

A virus. Most corona and flu viruses look like a ball

[ashen jolt]

Ah ok

[timid crest]

Update from yesterday: Turned survival on, I did indeed do thermal power correctly. It’s working :)

[formal nimbus]

The new update is going to go hard

Can't wait for iy

[terse flume]

hey can I plant these

[eternal garnet]

yes!

English only

[terse flume]

cool thank you I won't have to get a hundred of them then

[steep needle]

is this a good place to make my base?

[eternal garnet]

not terrible

[steep needle]

alright, thanks

[wicked vortex]

saw the giant leviathan in the crystal caves yesterday

Is it the most dangerous animal in the game?

[eternal garnet]

Possibly...

Maybe the worm. But if you go void, the dude there definitely, because he brings friends

[timid crest]

The worms are way less dangerous without a snowfox, just walk places and you’re good

Like 80% of the time

[formal nimbus]

When is the update coming out lol

[broken badge]

There is no timeline given

[ashen jolt]

I got softlocked in my seat tuck

Well a sea truck module

[spark steppe]

How?

[winter oriole]

good question

[winter oriole]

how

[ashen jolt]

I couldn’t leave because something hit a module in the way of the door but it’s fine I just died of oxygen

[elder oyster]

i love how it's clearly stated in the post by not saying when an update will happen... that it's inevitable that people will still ask

i am looking forward to it, assuming they don't break system compatibility

[hardy grove]

i just started my first modded game, some of these creatures i wish they would have left in the game.

[elder oyster]

i'm playing a modded save but it really is just grid snapping for basebuilding

how well does this game handle forcing AF with gpu drivers

I know when I have the quality set to medium, AF feels like it's turned off.

locks the framerate at 30 because the game can't run at 60

[eternal garnet]

I had proper issues when FPS went over 280. I wrote a bug, and it was fixed last week

[steep needle]

how can I mute the annoying sound that the ocular jellyfish does?

[elder oyster]

murder them

murder them with extreme prejudice

[steep needle]

oh, i can?

[elder oyster]

about 4-5 knife hits murders eye jellies dead.

[steep needle]

SLAYY

[elder oyster]

they respawn tho

[steep needle]

thx-

[steep needle]

aw, then there's no point of doing it 😭

[elder oyster]

temporary quiet is worth it imo

[steep needle]

also one question

where is located the ship that crashed?

not mercury II

the one that brought me to here

[elder oyster]

north

[eternal garnet]

your pod? north

[steep needle]

yes

i'll probably make my base there

[eternal garnet]

the pod (lander) is north of the pod

[steep needle]

perfect, thanks

[eternal garnet]

testing AF on and off now

[elder oyster]

but yeah i know playing on low/medium gets you shimmering and banding on textures in base peices

[steep needle]

found it, thanks

[eternal garnet]

is it ok?

[elder oyster]

it would be nice to be able to increase texture resolution

[eternal garnet]

Some new paint

[elder oyster]

give it a spit shine and a spritz with some spray paint and good as new

[eternal garnet]

AF test: There is a slight difference, and no FPS drop at all. 118 both

If you want to compare, download these and flip back/forth fullscreen

[elder oyster]

here's where I'm seeing problems, the back two pads have lines in them, and setting up AF will sometimes fix this.

[eternal garnet]

the one with FPS is 16x On

[steep needle]

lmaoo

[elder oyster]

(that's also in part mipmapping iirc, but)

[steep needle]

can yall recommend me a place to make my base? i can't find any 😭

[eternal garnet]

whether your FPS drops, you must test. Enter command: fps to turn meter on. This cancels achievements for this save, all commands do

my GPU is rather high end

[elder oyster]

i know, and i can show fps with steam overlay

or geforce overlay

or windows overlay... there's like a billion overlays that do that now lmao

and af/mipmapping don't affect fps, they usually only affect loading times

[steep needle]

does the lily pads have a leviathan creature?

[spark steppe]

To finish the story do I need to go to the ||frozen leviathan||

[eternal garnet]

no, but squidsharks and a drug dealer sea horse

[elder oyster]

you can finish the story without ever finding out what happened to Sam I'm pretty sure

[spark steppe]

Ok

[elder oyster]

i wonder if the problem with seeing the lines in the base platform pieces is because of texture misalignments instead of just AF issues

still super visible even on high detail settings

[steep needle]

alright, thanks

[elder oyster]

this is the problem, maybe.

[eternal garnet]

Where? I am blinded by your AA being off

[elder oyster]

you can see thin black lines in the texture, in the places the lines show up from a distance

[steep needle]

drug dealer LMAOO

[elder oyster]

I'm blind and can't see aliasing normally anyway

and TAA just makes everything look like blurry soup

the white lines on those black pads

[steep needle]

i can't decide where to make my base 😭 💅

||@exotic cove 🙄||

[elder oyster]

deep purple vents

[steep needle]

there are leviathans there 😭

[elder oyster]

there's a cheli up top near east arctic, there's no leviathans down below.

[elder oyster]

@eternal garnet i turned on taa to spare your eyes, but that's what i'm seeing and what is bothering me, note that the pads start turning white as i move away from them

[eternal garnet]

FXAA, 16X AF

[elder oyster]

yeah it's still visible on yours too

[eternal garnet]

the floor is reflecting the walls. cool

[elder oyster]

yeah, screen space reflection is okay.

oh god it's so bad

i turned off all the gfx settings in the nvidia control panel

also the game does run > 70 fps when on low

though I wish I could turn up the texture resolution to the equivalent of medium

[eternal garnet]

delivering ugliness with high speed!

[elder oyster]

but yeah, I can clearly see the transitions between texture states with AF off

you can see it as a line that follows you lmao

[steep needle]

so i go to delta first?

or how

[elder oyster]

just go down when you can, it can't get you in the caves.

[steep needle]

make a base inside a cave?!

[elder oyster]

That's what all the "Deep" prefixed biomes are

[steep needle]

are they small caves or big caves?

[elder oyster]

some are small some are large

[steep needle]

oke

[elder oyster]

deep purple vents is like 250-400m deep

[steep needle]

you mean the deep purple vents where you can get to the entrance of the crystal cave right?

[elder oyster]

one of the entrances yeah

[steep needle]

ohh i see

yeah it's kinda big, although there's a problem

can the vents (those purple things that explode) damage the base?

[elder oyster]

don't think so, they can't damage the seatruck

and they only ever did 1-2 damage to me the player

[steep needle]

ok

also, does the fire they emit or smoke show inside of the base if it's close to one vent?

[elder oyster]

it probably will

[steep needle]

hm

where do you have your base? 💅

[elder oyster]

I don't have one

[steep needle]

oh

[elder oyster]

I can show you roughly where it was on the delta station map tho

[steep needle]

sure, thanks

[elder oyster]

but yeah, setting AF to x16 turns texture neg. lod bias to clamp and turns off texture af optimizing

iirc this is what my base looked like

it had a colour and had some other useful things but this is what the general layout was.

actually

probably right around where the crosshair is on the map.

600m north of delta island

also the scale in the top corner is waaaay off lmao

The actual distance between delta and zero is 1km, not ~12000 lmao

[steep needle]

why didn't you ping me 😭

[steep needle]

what crosshair?

[elder oyster]

the white cirlce witht he dot in it?

that's the crosshair lmao

0/10 unplayable

[steep needle]

oh okay, sorry my native language is not english lmao

so, here?

it's the north

[elder oyster]

no

[eternal garnet]

oh the space is for cooling purposes

[elder oyster]

twisty bridges

[steep needle]

do i go to twisty bridges?

[elder oyster]

oh, okay, then why is there no space on the other side?

[elder oyster]

600m north of delta outpost is where i built it

[steep needle]

so i go 600m north of delta and i'll find twisty bridges, right?

[eternal garnet]

more like 100m, if you go northeast

[steep needle]

aight

[elder oyster]

my base was just at northern tip of twisty bridges.

not the northernmost, that's around where you find the pod area

[carmine bobcat]

Actually I think you can even get power from those with thermal plants

[steep needle]

dis aint twisty bridges

[eternal garnet]

no, they are too cold

[carmine bobcat]

What does work with thermal plant in this game then?

[elder oyster]

this is where i built the foundation

which is where I branch my base out anyway

[eternal garnet]

ideally the lava pits near the island

[elder oyster]

here

[carmine bobcat]

Thank you

A shame they can't be used more often

[elder oyster]

you can see this formation of bridges,... it's close to deep twisty entrance, it's close to a lot of table coral

[eternal garnet]

right above the rebreather I suspect

[elder oyster]

nope.

[carmine bobcat]

I just built my main base about 100m from the lifepod

[elder oyster]

actually right above the habitat builder and window lmao

this one's the rebreather (I know because of the depth)

too cold

hot enough for them to "work"

but not hot enough to get any meaningful power out of them

[eternal garnet]

you want green or yellow really

[elder oyster]

green means > 25C

[eternal garnet]

no...

[elder oyster]

this one was green

it's not going to generate power

[eternal garnet]

my green is like 90C. I don't know the threshold

the wiki surely does

[elder oyster]

if it's green it says it will generate power

yellow it won't

[eternal garnet]

...
Yellow means "ok", green is "great", max speed

[elder oyster]

green at 25°C?

that won't generate any power lmao

[eternal garnet]

No, you said that.

[elder oyster]

and because the game is creative it won't show the temperature until I fully build it and deconstruct it a little bit

the hottest place in og sn was 104

and that was literally inside one of those things

speaking of, I built it literally inside the thing and it's actually showing 86 instead of 250 xD

apparently switching to survival from a creative save will actually set the gamemode to "none"

and the UI won't show up

[eternal garnet]

yes, that doesn't work. But in a custom game you can do that

[elder oyster]

tho it does still actually affect your survival

you can't see the o2 meter, but it's there.

i still can't get experimental to run on this computer

i haven't tried in a while but I don't really feel like it's worth it rn

[eternal garnet]

it's still the mod manager.

[elder oyster]

mod manager wasn't installed?

even if I move the game, and all of it's files somewhere else

ie mv %programfiles(x86)%\steam\steamapps\common\subnauticazero\ %userprofile%\desktop\subnauticazero

[eternal garnet]

try: delete folder SubnauticaZero_Data
Then verify files or reinstall

[elder oyster]

and then verify the entire game to do a full reinstall

[eternal garnet]

wait. The mod folder. bepinex? something like that

it's gotta go

[elder oyster]

Qmods

that's what moving the entire game does.

[eternal garnet]

well if there is a bepinex, nuke it

Qmodmanager has uninstall instructions:
Delete the Bepinex folder from your Game Directory.

[elder oyster]

uninstalled the game

literally, as far as the game/steam is concerned

anyway, reinstalling the game

and then will switch to experimental after it's done

and see if it crashes before it can even set an error log

[eternal garnet]

odd. Switch now, save download

[elder oyster]

i have unlimited bandwidth

[eternal garnet]

it's 2GB difference I think

You can put back some saves, it does load and convert them

[elder oyster]

yeah, i moved the base game to the desktop to keep my save

because I am legit trying to beat this game on hc

yesterday it just randomly killed me when I picked up a small boulder blocking an ore vein.

instead of doing damage or hurting me or anything, (in arctic spires), my health was set to 0 and the game over screen just came out of nowhere

[eternal garnet]

prop cannon?

[elder oyster]

yeah

i was clear of the boulder, there was lots of space

idk if I can reproduce it

i know where it was tho

(god I love windows terminal)

anyway

I was told earlier that it was because my PC was old that exp. wouldn't run

[eternal garnet]

it really should. If not, that's a major bug

[elder oyster]

Yeah

If it performs a bit worse because of shader upgrades, then yeah I get it

My pc can handle DX12 games

Not well, but it can

Proof my PC is old lmao

Nope

big fat nothing

[eternal garnet]

i'll test it on my old rig with windows 7

[elder oyster]

I've got the latest build of win10

Am I just missing some dependency that the new version needs?

[eternal garnet]

it should say. Is there a log? let me find location

[elder oyster]

There's a memory dump and a duplicate of player.log in the crash file it doesn't show an error log

[eternal garnet]

Too much for me, but I will pass it on

[elder oyster]

I can send the proper dump and dxdiag if you need it

and yes, reinstalling visual studio let me actually figure out what's happening

and @eternal garnet fwiw, this also happens in original Subnautica

[eternal garnet]

in experimental? that has the same new engine

[elder oyster]

Yeah

I saw a mod for an altimeter... Why they used (6m^) instead of (+6m) is beyond me

you know what

I really liked that last base spot, I'm building it there in the new save.

[elder oyster]

I am sorry, but I suppose I should thank you for passing this on for me.

[elder oyster]

I wish battery chargers were faster.

Also, I noticed that thermal plants were nerfed in bz.

[nova pewter]

how am I supposed to get the part of the body that is over here?

[eternal garnet]

not sure where you are, but a bridge blocks the way to a body part. you repair it

[nova pewter]

i already crossed it and repair it and all that

[elder oyster]

find a different way around

(Or use prawn suit speed hax and jump over that tiny ledge)

That's a one-way drop that you are meant to come back from the other side

(Spoilers, that's where the game spontaneously killed me, literally on that path)

[proud finch]

Do y’all preferred Subnautica over Subnautica bz?

[nova pewter]

i already used that, the thing is i dont have a suit fore the cold

[nova pewter]

that will work

[nova pewter]

hmmm, for visuals bz, but both are very cool

[elder oyster]

yeah, there is a way over there, it's just not that little cliff (unless you are using the prawn suit's speed to clear the height.)

[nova pewter]

ty

[elder oyster]

and you don't need a cold suit to travel there, the snowfox and prawn suit both are vehicles and your body temperature doesn't go down when you're using them

[nova pewter]

oh yeah, the snowfox.. haven't build it yet idk why JKLSDGJKL

[elder oyster]

cus it's bad lmfao

[nova pewter]

tomorrow ill do it then

[nova pewter]

oh my

why always i have to do long expeditions at night lmao

[elder oyster]

there is a problem with being over-prepared...

[nova pewter]

literally me always

[elder oyster]

more than half my inventory taken up with junk lmao

[nova pewter]

literally

[elder oyster]

you know i never found the stillsuit.

(or water filtration suit), and the headlamp is basically useless :/

[nova pewter]

kinda

[elder oyster]

i wish it was an accessory instead of a head slot

[nova pewter]

the water filtration suit its nice tbh

[elder oyster]

it costs too much for that

[eternal garnet]

it is ||outside marges home, below a little||

[nova pewter]

this ^^

[elder oyster]

tho that does mean you'd have to choose between compass and scanner room hud chip if you wanted it equipped

[nova pewter]

yea

[elder oyster]

i think that's a fair tradeoff imo

just because the headlamp requires an ion battery to craft, and is only useful when exploring land and even then barely.

because you'll want the rebreather when underwater, and the cold suit when on land most likely.

[nova pewter]

i just love/hate how all this land is so big

[elder oyster]

at least you don't get knocked out of the prawn suit every time that thing farts.

[nova pewter]

oh my

actually i haven't been even touched by that