#below-zero-chat

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rugged meadow
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Mods bad

sand knoll
rugged meadow
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the reflection is horrendous yeah

sand knoll
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If you don’t use mods your missing out on a bunch if fun stuff 💀

rugged meadow
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do mods work on MS store version

sand knoll
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I’m not sure

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Getting all your games on Steam is a good option for PC gaming

rugged meadow
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hmm yeah this version sucks

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but I got Subnautica free from game pass that's why I'm playing this one

sand knoll
green charm
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Yo I think there’s a slight problem

rugged meadow
green charm
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I’ve been in the void for the past 10 minutes or so just chilling and these guys just pass through my sea truck

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Wait is there a bottom to the void

rugged meadow
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I knew it

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these guys are literally no threat

green charm
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Yeah until they somehow knocked me 2400 meters down and now I’m at what appears to be the bottom of the void

spice seal
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like 2500m down or something idk I haven't been there in a while

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might only be in some areas though

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like near tree spires

white marlin
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where can i find the eggs from the pengwing and lily paddler ?

runic dust
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Forgot to say this but how do I fix this

weak gate
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hen

rugged meadow
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this guy put up a great fight

rugged meadow
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||After taking care of all the levithans, I'm finally here hypeE ||

light sand
rugged meadow
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My final below zero main base

west mountain
rugged meadow
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I think there is still room for improvement but I can't think of anything

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but I love this open base with these glass roofs

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I've got all my 4 trivalves and two penglings swimming around my base

fervent lintel
# rugged meadow

This is the KYUTEST thing and I'm not even disappointed you spoiled it to me

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I now have a new end goal in this game
Finding out max depth ? Don't care
What's the biggest threat ? Meh
Where is the damn lady mech pilot's base ? Booooring
Fishes that play and wave ? SIGN ME THE F UP

rugged meadow
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Heck yea!

hushed jungle
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cyclops glass

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anyone else just randomly stick their fingers in their pc fans or just me?

magic cliffBOT
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borninbronx#4233 has been warned

Reason: Too many spoiler tags

hushed jungle
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bruh

fallen venture
# magic cliff

There's nothing in the rules about too many spoiler tags? Why is that even a restriction? I was trying to avoid all the spoilers I could

hushed jungle
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MEE6 is just built different

fallen venture
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I guess I'll just repost the same message without any spoiler tag

hushed jungle
fallen venture
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I just finished Subnautica Below Zero, I've mixed feeling about it.

------> The following contains non covered spoilers (thanks MEE6 for that), read at your own risk <-----

On one hand I love the new biomes, the new vehicles and buildings..
On the other hand the story didn't really click for me, felt a bit rushed?

  • The 2 (3?) story lines are completely separated (looking into Sam Death, Margaret small part and ||Saving the Alien and leaving the planet||)
  • Why is there a meteor shower when you land?
  • Why there's no one from Alterra anymore on the planet? Why did they gave up on studying the virus?)
  • Feel like Sam Death was exactly what Alterra said, she was actually negligent?!?
  • Why to obtain the cure you just need a couple of materials in your fabricator? What about Enzime 42?
  • How did Margaret survive all those years? The story about killing a leviathan and drifting to sector zero is stretched but could be OK, but shouldn't the virus had killed her in all those years between the Degasi crash and the release of Enzime 42?
  • What happened to all the Alterra bases?

I've read there was an old story, and I think the beginning avalanche animation was cooler. I'm not sure if the story was better but I feel like the current one was just rushed, which is a bit sad cause otherwise the game is great.

hushed jungle
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and marg is just built different

fallen venture
hushed jungle
hushed jungle
hushed jungle
fervent lintel
rugged meadow
fallen venture
hushed jungle
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why needs nuclear waste disposal when you can just dump them outside of your base

tropic girder
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Because it looks ugly

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plus nuclear disposal bins are good in “decorating” your otherwise empty looking reactor room

carmine bobcat
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Just beat the game

tropic girder
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Nice

west mountain
keen timber
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thermal

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is not cool

hushed jungle
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Thermal is the definition of cool

keen timber
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but its not cool

hushed jungle
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It is

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Infinite energy

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Thermal

keen timber
eternal garnet
keen timber
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it is not cool

hushed jungle
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How do I spoiler on phone

keen timber
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||

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those symbols

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on both sides

hushed jungle
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|| How many alien body parts do you have? ||

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Yes

fallow ice
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Help pls

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I cant enter

hushed jungle
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Bruh

hushed jungle
keen timber
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sorry your seatruck is now its seatruck

fallow ice
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he stole my sailor

hushed jungle
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Idk what to do never happened to me before

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Maybe just wait for him to get out

fallow ice
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I went over and he disappeared, nice

keen timber
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no uh

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explore until alan says something

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then go to the green marker that just appeared

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that works for one of the parts

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i can give u a better hint if u need

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have u been to the lily pad area?

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no

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explore the cave systems a bit

hushed jungle
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I would say your next thing to do is to go to glacial basin and arctic spires

keen timber
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i dont think they should do hardest to easiest

hushed jungle
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Completing the Sam story and progressing in Al lan

rugged meadow
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scan two more for a surprise

eternal garnet
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please notice the "scan me" icon, bottom right

hushed jungle
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So you just went there and left?

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💀

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Well have fun!

eternal garnet
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the icon is not an ad for cheap scanners

hushed jungle
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The icon is so useful

keen timber
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is there a world border

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like if u keep going past the void

hushed jungle
keen timber
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what does it look like

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oh im just wondering

hushed jungle
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There is a void

keen timber
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i wish we could see like massive mountains or something

hushed jungle
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Sad

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Yeah

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They look pretty creepy

keen timber
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they look yummy

hushed jungle
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Very

keen timber
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they very yummy

hushed jungle
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They look like rotten fish

keen timber
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makes it better

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adds flavor

hushed jungle
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YEAH

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Bet Marguariet would have loved that

keen timber
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i think thats why there is only 3 at a time

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128

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seconds old

hushed jungle
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Bruh

keen timber
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no u

fallen venture
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Is a new Subnautica game in development? This time around I'm thinking of getting the early access rather than waiting the release

keen timber
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no just updates for the ucrrent ones

hushed jungle
keen timber
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no ur drunk

fallen venture
hushed jungle
fallen venture
keen timber
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i tihnk sbunatuica nautica woudl be cool

hushed jungle
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Yeah probably as they removed a bunch of stuff

fallen venture
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Start in base with Sam in orbit vs start in orbit with Sam underground

hushed jungle
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You can also find videos of what the story was like before

keen timber
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imagine sbunatica but underwatr

hushed jungle
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Supernautica

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As super is the opposite of sub

keen timber
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i think i had to many void fishies

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tell fred that he is fred

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no

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unless u are fred

hushed jungle
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Fred is a character in bz

fallen venture
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Stuff i wish they add in the next game: automatic robots for late game: to transfer resources between bases, more capabilities for creating buildings (like Margaret base is cool but you can't recreate some of it).
Some faster vehicle for errands.
Inventory management improvements.

keen timber
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and more freds

fallen venture
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Have a nice recovery

keen timber
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and u arent fred

fallen venture
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Would have been cool if by the end game you would have a way to travel to the old Subnautica location and viceversa

hushed jungle
fallen venture
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Another thing... When i saw the domesticated pet of Margaret i hoped it was possible to do something like that. Would have been cool.

Also? How tf did she travel underwater on a prawn suit bringing it along?

hushed jungle
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She built the Prawn there

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And traveled there inside a reaper

fallen venture
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I mean her pet, following her from underwater base to the greenhouse

hushed jungle
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Domesticated pets would be cool

hushed jungle
fallen venture
hushed jungle
fallen venture
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I mean those things can swim, but that's a long way

hushed jungle
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Yeah and they have to hold their breath for pretty long

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But is Marge's suit even there?

fallen venture
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No i didn't see, i guess they both swim? Maybe she rides it

hushed jungle
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Lol

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I need to go check her base for the suit and if she is there when she is at the greenhouse

fallen venture
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You always find her i think. If you go to the greenhouse or her base, she's there

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Are gif forbidden?

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Got deleted

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hushed jungle
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Probably

fallen venture
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But okay! Got it, will avoid gifs ;-)

hushed jungle
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Probably something happened that made mods not like gifs probably gif spam

fallen venture
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Wasn't forbidden in rules :-) like "too many spoilers tag" thing

broken badge
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I remove gifs. I feel like people should share images & clips from their own games. And many gifs are large & annoying for mobile users

hushed jungle
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Riding a snowstalker would be weird

fallen venture
broken badge
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It’s in the rules that not everything will be listed in the rulesvvShrug

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We can’t cover every single possibility

fallen venture
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Riding an ice worm with the prawn suit next

hushed jungle
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No but their backs have those triangle things don't know what they are called in English

broken badge
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How would you ride a snow stalker don’t they have armored plates on their spine?

hushed jungle
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Yeah

hushed jungle
fallen venture
broken badge
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Well we don’t see that happen lol

hushed jungle
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Marguerite was inside of a burning leviathan

broken badge
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She pretty much teleports there tbh😅

hushed jungle
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Yeah

fallen venture
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And somehow she must have travel to the greenhouse with her pet and without the prawn suit anyway

broken badge
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Actually her prawn is missing from her base isn’t it?

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Though we don’t see it at the other location

hushed jungle
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Idk probably not

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I was gonna check when I get to that part in my hardcore world

fallen venture
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Maybe there are 2 Margaret

hushed jungle
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Maybe they are just clones

fallen venture
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That would explain how she survived the virus, kept cloning herself

hushed jungle
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What if you go to Margaret's base before delta

fallen venture
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Hum, i never tried

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Should be easy to do

hushed jungle
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Wouldn't the clones still be infected

fallen venture
broken badge
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I think she’s not there or it’s locked but idk exactly

fallen venture
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How do you lock a moon pool?

broken badge
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It has a bulkhead door

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To the living compartment

hushed jungle
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It used to be locked with a code

fallen venture
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Yeah never saw a keyhole in those

broken badge
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For example after she leaves for greenhouse it’s locked

fallen venture
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About that, why no codes in below zero? Would be cool to lock some part of your base with a code

hushed jungle
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Why can't I lock my base

broken badge
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Codes are a pain to interact with

broken badge
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And also to keep track of

fallen venture
broken badge
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And people tend to just look them up rather than find them

broken badge
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Because a lot of people are lazyvvShrug

fallen venture
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Randomize the code in each play, problem solved

hushed jungle
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I might look up codes

broken badge
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Just speaking from experience what I see in Subnautica chat

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People won’t even bother looking in an adjacent room for a code smhfacepalm

hushed jungle
fallen venture
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I'm lazy, but i don't mind having to look for a code. I mind more having to build a gazillion storage and manually add each material

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I'd rather have a storage room i can upgrade/ expand and just store everything there

broken badge
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I wish people wouldn’t tell others codes in Subnautica chat. I mean at least they could go search the internet but giving out the codes is about the same as letting someone “cheat”tunafacepalm

fallen venture
hushed jungle
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Yes

hushed jungle
broken badge
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I think randomizing has potential to cause issues

fallen venture
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Hardcore: random

hushed jungle
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It wouldn't be truly random probably

fallen venture
broken badge
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I’m not a programmer but it just seems like something that might make it more difficult to address (help people) if bugs aroserooThink1

hushed jungle
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Yeah helping would be a pain but making the code for randomising not

fallen venture
broken badge
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It’s not so easy to just “add” more commands

hushed jungle
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Seems pretty simple

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But not completely sure

broken badge
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Nothing is ever “simple” I’ve learned

fallen venture
broken badge
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Then you should know code touches other code

fallen venture
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Only if badly written 🙃

hushed jungle
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Just make the number be a variable that you can change with commands

broken badge
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I think we should move on. It’s not going to happenvvShrug

hushed jungle
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Yeah

fallen venture
broken badge
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Lol

fallen venture
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🤣

hushed jungle
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I feel like making a moonpool that can hold seatruck modules would be cool

broken badge
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By the way when someone says they’re 11 please inform the mods

hushed jungle
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Yeah I thought about that

fallen venture
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What would be really cool would be if we could combine modules to make them bigger. Like 2 moon pools next to each other = 1 bigger moonpool

hushed jungle
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Cool idea but sadly probably not gonna happen

fallen venture
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Also descending/ascending connectors would be cool

hushed jungle
fallen venture
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Only way to make multi level building is vertical stairs. I'd like to be able to make multiple kind of stairs to connect floors

hushed jungle
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Yeah the vertical pipes are really ugly

broken badge
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Stacked rooms & laddersrooThink1

fallen venture
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And i want big containment facilities for leviathans, sea emperor style

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Stacked room and remove part of ceiling to create cooler designs

hushed jungle
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That would be pretty advanced

fallen venture
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Also, I'm Italian, the toilet isn't enough, i need a bidet in my bathroom

broken badge
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The glass domes are really cool

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Bidets are great IRL you don’t have to be Italian to appreciate them xD

hushed jungle
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But no aquarium and glass dome 😭

broken badge
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You can have the large containment & glass dome in large room it just doesn’t meld with the dome for some reasonrooThink1

hushed jungle
broken badge
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Yeah

hushed jungle
fallen venture
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Actually, hole in the base external creatures could pass through xD

hushed jungle
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And the cyclops reflection is funny

rugged meadow
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I've finished both the games and came to know until recently that you can rotate your base pieces while building using scroll wheel on your mouse 💀

hushed jungle
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I should probably go now getting pretty late

rugged meadow
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have a good one pat

fallen venture
hushed jungle
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1am for me

rugged meadow
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Australia??

hushed jungle
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Yes

broken badge
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09:51 here

hushed jungle
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Morning?

rugged meadow
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yeah, Australia is right around 6 hrs ahead of my time

broken badge
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Have a good rest Patzku

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And yes that means morning xD

hushed jungle
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Well bye guys

rugged meadow
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India

broken badge
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I’m in US

hushed jungle
fallen venture
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I'm in Italy 🍕

rugged meadow
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5 actually

hushed jungle
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7h to Finland and that's in Scandinavia

fallen venture
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Also, teleporters inside base to teleport to other bases!!!

rugged meadow
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it's 8:30pm here

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right now

fallen venture
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The Speedrun Heaven

hushed jungle
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Well now I will go as my phone will die soon lol

rugged meadow
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lol sure... Sleep well

fallen venture
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Can we also have an actual map for the next Subnautica? Possibly with some equipment to chart the places you go

broken badge
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There are various map sites you can use. One is linked in pins

fallen venture
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I'm a vulcano of good ideas, unknown worlds should hire me

fallen venture
broken badge
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Console can’t use those anyway so I don’t really pay attention to mods much

hushed jungle
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Why does it have to rain when I'm trying to sleep

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And be 27 degrees

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Ingame maps are cheating

fallen venture
hushed jungle
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Lol

broken badge
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We take that sort of thing seriously here and it’s not allowed

broken badge
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I know you meant it as a joke but platform bias/bashing isn’t allowed

fallen venture
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Oh ok!

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Gone

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I love 💕 all platforms

broken badge
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Tykirbythumbsup

fallen venture
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What's the engine used by Subnautica?

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Unity?

deep kettle
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Yes

fallen venture
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Is there anyway to play the old below zero storyline on PC (steam)?

deep kettle
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Yes, there are branches with old versions.

fallen venture
deep kettle
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You can enter this code into Steam and it will give you the option to select some old versions.

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You don’t need to compile anything.

fallen venture
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What will happen to my game saves if i switch to an old version?

carmine bobcat
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me too

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lol

deep kettle
fallen venture
deep kettle
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Because the game is not made to be backwards compatible, certain things didn’t exist back in Early Access that do exist now and will most likely not play nicely together.

carmine bobcat
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yes

eternal garnet
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if you just make a new save, your other save will be safe until you return to current

fallen venture
deep kettle
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Like Meatie said yeah

fallen venture
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Great

eternal garnet
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you can't load a current save in ea8. Do EA8.1 by the way

deep kettle
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It will be save if you don’t touch / load it.

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Although 99% sure the game won’t even let you load it.

eternal garnet
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it should be impossible to break. HOWEVER, current experimental will convert all your saves. avoid for now

deep kettle
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That’s the 1%

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😂

rugged meadow
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it's crazy how op thermal reactors are

still marten
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Happy Easter Subnautica chat

rugged meadow
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literally place them and forget they even exist

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and the base will never run out of power

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is the re-inforced dive suit in below zero

eternal garnet
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yes

rugged meadow
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||Mercury 2 was also shot down by that alien gun that means it came on planet 4546B before Riley right||

sand knoll
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but the captain of ||mercury 2 ||was able to dodge the|| beam ||the first time and they landed in sector 0, and then he tried to leave and thats when he got ||shot down||

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also POV: prawn suit mods

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what are useful plants to plant in BZ?

west mountain
sand knoll
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in an exterior growbed

west mountain
sand knoll
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no. exterior

west mountain
eternal garnet
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cotton anemone things. Gel sacks. lots more

sand knoll
sand knoll
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whats the item id for gel sacks and cotton again

eternal garnet
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no you wiki it

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if not nearby, you want creepvine seeds and battery plants. And whatever I forget, my mind is on Subnautica rn

broken badge
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You can’t grow Preston fruit and fevered peppers in an exterior growbed @sand knoll that’s what they were saying

small bronze
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Where i can find a lot of lead ?

eternal garnet
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only with scanner room

green flicker
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recyclotron + repair tool = batteries galore

small bronze
eternal garnet
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no

west mountain
# small bronze their no vein of lead ? ;-;

Most lead can be found in twisty bridges, thermal spires and ||cristal cavern||. Also some lead can be found on the floating lilypad islands. Yes, mineral detector or scanner room is best to find it quickly.

small bronze
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ok thx

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WTF i swim in my base

haughty glade
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Anywhere in the console to clear debris?

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One of my seatruck parts broke just ouside my base and the parts are blocking my entrance into my fabrication room 😦

flint coral
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💀

small bronze
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||after meet Marguerite in his greenhouse ||
||there nothing after ? ||

eternal garnet
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His? You can go back into her kitchen now. And there's the other storylines

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Also note you got a very, very good salad recipe

small bronze
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i think i have miss something

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and my aquatruck is stuck

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something to unstuck it ?

sand knoll
sand knoll
small bronze
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im so far from my base ;-;

sand knoll
sand knoll
sand knoll
small bronze
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how i have done that ?

small bronze
sand knoll
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Ic

bold monolith
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Did you fix your issue, Toray?

small bronze
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not yet i need to found that

next current
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Look in the Arctic Kelp Caves for that.

small bronze
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the kelp caves near the begining ?

barren atlas
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sea monkey nests

tropic girder
small bronze
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ok wtf
i come back when my seatruck was stuck but he got trough the floor and unstuck

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wtf are this game

eternal garnet
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it are best game!

small bronze
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ye

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but a litle weird sometime

small bronze
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how long do this take to be full use

eternal garnet
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depends entirely on your power draw

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Possibly longer than your game

small bronze
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lmao ok

pearl crag
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where is the ||third alan fragment||

lyric current
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is there any way to get out of this thing? (without dying)

pearl crag
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deconstruct

small bronze
# pearl crag where is the ||third alan fragment||

||one at the iceberg near the mountain i think||
||one are in the lily pad cave biome ( i think im|| ||not sure of the name but its a pink place lmao)||
||and the last are in the red cave (i reallly dont know the name of biome sorry x) but i want to help so) ||

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how u get the seed of that

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i use my knife it give me leave and idk if i can plant fruits

lyric current
small bronze
lyric current
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sadly no

small bronze
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maybe use consol but it disactivate achievement

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its the last option
maybe there another

lyric current
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yeah, I'm trying to avoid that, so far in the game the only things that managed to almost kill me were the bugs.

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I dropped some of my inventory and jumped on them to get out.

peak bronze
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what direction do i take for delta station dock?

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Was it S-SW?

pearl crag
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do u see a weird iceberg

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its liek

ooo
o
O

peak bronze
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no i already got my bearings

pearl crag
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sorta like a hook

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sh ok

peak bronze
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is there any hostile fauna near ||artifact X3J||

pearl crag
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i believe that one is relatively safe

peak bronze
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relatively?

small bronze
peak bronze
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Need seatruck parts D:

peak bronze
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Why does my seatruck keep getting frozen out of nowhere?

eternal garnet
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do not play on experimental. Are you on steam?

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@peak bronze

peak bronze
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huh

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koppa mining site is quite interesting

copper pagoda
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My pocket squidsharks give me super-strength!

next current
proper trail
proper trail
hushed jungle
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Bruh koppa mining site isn't a spoiler

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Anyone know if playing the old storyline is possible on epic Games store as you can do it on steam

eternal garnet
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it's not

hushed jungle
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Well that sucks

green flicker
sly egret
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so i just noticed in the f1 menu theres a rich presence tag which seems like it would be used for discord, but bz doesnt have rich presence in discord. is there any way to have it work??

rapid lantern
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Im a little sad I play on PlayStation so I don’t think I can get custom jukebox music

rugged meadow
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how can you put custom jukebox music on PC

sly egret
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put stuff into a certain folder for the game

rapid lantern
hushed jungle
carmine bobcat
tepid quest
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any suggestions for scanning the ||void chelicerate leviathan||?

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they are so deadly

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i got out of my ||seatruck|| and immediately met my end

carmine bobcat
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does bz have repulsion cannon

tepid quest
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nope

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only propulsion cannon

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repulsion was too op ig. Same with stasis rifle

carmine bobcat
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dang

proper trail
rapid lantern
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Self cannibalism

proper trail
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Nevermind. I don't want to know

hushed jungle
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is the dangerous weather thing actually dangerous

rugged meadow
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No

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it's just flavourtext

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it decreases temps a lot faster

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so even with cold suit you're gonna get die of hyperthermia quickly

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i wish cold suit completely prevents that

proper trail
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Same

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It literally hails on you

hushed jungle
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yeah you should get cold if you have cold suit

proper trail
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HAIL

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Seriously. How

hushed jungle
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what

carmine bobcat
proper trail
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Hail? Big balls of ice

hushed jungle
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depends there can be hail with small balls and hail with big balls

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but hail doesn't really hurt

carmine bobcat
hushed jungle
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but idk how big balls of ice falls at planet 4546B

proper trail
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Weather

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Balls.

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I can't stop lol

carmine bobcat
hushed jungle
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the red planetoid is scary close

carmine bobcat
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Its a exoplanet I think its called

tepid quest
# hushed jungle but idk how big balls of ice falls at planet 4546B

I’d imagine that the hail on 4546B are large. I’d say that due to how much water covers the surface. Since all sunlight directly hits the water, large amounts of heated water vapor would be entering the atmosphere. This means more clouds, and more rain. So just in general the water cycle could be larger. Large amounts of solar radiation also drive storms, as the heat decreases density in air (kinda). With a giant planet full of storms and high winds, hail can easily form. Hail forms from snow making balls, which are then flung back into the atmosphere from wind. High wind means these hail balls are going to stay in the air longer, and thus will be bigger. I’m no expert so this is just a hypothesis

hushed jungle
carmine bobcat
tepid quest
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So it’s easy to say that hail could be quite large on 4546B

tepid quest
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lol I spent 5 minutes on that and all I get is “cool”

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eh whatever lmao

carmine bobcat
hushed jungle
carmine bobcat
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Yes I agree

hushed jungle
carmine bobcat
hushed jungle
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well the 4546B is a exoplanet but the thing orbiting it is a planetoid

tepid quest
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So exoplanets are just planets that are not in our own solar system

hushed jungle
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yeah

tepid quest
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The red satellite orbiting it is probably a large moon. Perhaps both are tidally locked. The other, large planetoid could be a separate planet that is just massive, so it looks close.

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neither statement are supported by the game, so we won’t ever find the truth

hushed jungle
tepid quest
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Hm

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But it’s so massive. For it to not crash into 4546B it has to be far away

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The red planet we can hand wave away with “tidally locked moons”

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or planets. There’s a difference there that I don’t remember

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Like are both planets or just moons to eachother? Earth’s moon isn’t a planet, so two moons tidally locked aren’t either, right?

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It’s all semantics. Doesn’t matter

proper trail
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You expect us to make a brief comment on a very long DM detailing things about a concept or idea?

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Here.

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"cool"

west mountain
rugged meadow
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that's around 150 uranite 💀

west mountain
wicked pier
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what do i do to continue the story, i'm kinna in a place where idk where to explore next (not that far into the game probably 40% done)

west mountain
wicked pier
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i found ||alien skeleton and tissues|| recently

west mountain
wicked pier
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what's that

west mountain
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the island with the radio tower

wicked pier
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oh

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yes

west mountain
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and have you met the maida

wicked pier
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yes, i went to her too

west mountain
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and did what she told you to do

wicked pier
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idrk, i forgot i met her way before talking to alien

west mountain
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So you ||deactivated the radio tower and went to her greenhouse||

wicked pier
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OHh

rugged meadow
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Nuclear reactor is so noisy tho

wicked pier
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ima replay the msgs

west mountain
rugged meadow
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how much power do you realistically need anyway for a big base

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I've currently 1000 power from my thermal reactors

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but I feel like thermal sources are not available in every biome

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and nuclear is next best option

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2500 power from one rod that's f upp

west mountain
rugged meadow
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how do you get power outages

west mountain
rugged meadow
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I currently have water filtration and a jukebox running in my base and that's about it

west mountain
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I dont even know if you can get it with any other power source.

rugged meadow
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and some fabrications once in a while

west mountain
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Dont worry about it as long as there is nothing to worry about

rugged meadow
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the favourite thing about my base are the sky roofs so I can watch all the different weathers

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especially the aurora burolis, that's looks so cool

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Yo you ever tried booster tank while swimming on surface

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it should be busted on paper I think

tawdry pumice
west mountain
rugged meadow
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Run a thousand fabricators at the same time or water filtration machines combine with scanner room scans

west mountain
rugged meadow
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but realistically using up 2500-3k power at the same time is an overkill

west mountain
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But how would it distribute the power to the various devices? Would it shut down everything, then start again then shut down everything. Or would it shut down certain areas, no idea?

rugged meadow
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it just shuts down everything i believe when there's no power like oxygen production and stuff like that

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I think from the control room we can manage that

pearl crag
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help someine please

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my pda just said leviathon class creature is near

west mountain
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Do you have the zapper in your seatruck?

rugged meadow
pearl crag
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||crystal caves||

west mountain
rugged meadow
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even better toy for the shadow to chew

pearl crag
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I SEE IT

west mountain
rugged meadow
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oh I forgot this is below zero chat. no reapers lol

pearl crag
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levi is going to bite my ahh off

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its got the blue glow

west mountain
rugged meadow
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this guy is hugeee

pearl crag
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STOP

rugged meadow
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do you have the grappling and drill arm

pearl crag
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just drill

rugged meadow
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just go back, you have no chance against that levithan

pearl crag
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nah imma face it head on

rugged meadow
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you sure... I cleared out shadow levithans population in my area yesterday and without the grappling arm it',s not possible to win

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i mean you can still sneak past it

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no need to face it

pearl crag
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AHAHAHHA

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you know boom boom fish?

rugged meadow
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ofcourse hate those pesky little creatures

pearl crag
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it came at me and i went into the ||alan body part place|| and it just started floating at me

rugged meadow
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it got mind controlled by aliens

pearl crag
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I MADE IT

rugged meadow
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my trivalve is stuck in my seatruck

proper trail
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You can now keep it safe

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But the G force of the seatruck will damage it and the seatruck will be damaged by the Trivalve. Because of the seatruck moving

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/srs

rugged meadow
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he can't get out 💀

slender lark
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Hii

hushed jungle
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hi

slender lark
rugged meadow
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it followed me inside

carmine bobcat
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oh no

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i fell bad for him

rugged meadow
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I re loaded my save so it's all fine now

carmine bobcat
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whew

hushed jungle
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how many trivalves are there?

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6 right?

pearl crag
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if u bring ur prawn suit in the seatruck and go to the prawn suits crush depth

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will it die

hushed jungle
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probably not

rugged meadow
hushed jungle
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I thought there were 6

rugged meadow
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two yellow and two blue

hushed jungle
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4 blue and 2 yellow

rugged meadow
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there are 4??

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blue

hushed jungle
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yeah apparently

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2 at a iceberg and 2 at arctic spires

carmine bobcat
rugged meadow
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someone has a map of arctic spires

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I need it right now

carmine bobcat
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there best icould do]

rugged meadow
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I finally reached to this teleporter

carmine bobcat
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oh nice

rugged meadow
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there's an ||alien elevator|| here

carmine bobcat
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oh idnkt

rugged meadow
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||a direct teleporter from phy robotics right to arctic spires.. it's the best thing||

west mountain
hushed jungle
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have you also made a video where it shows what iceberg the trivalve eggs are in

west mountain
# hushed jungle have you also made a video where it shows what iceberg the trivalve eggs are in

This video shows how to find the Blue Trivalve Eggs in the 3rd Arctic Spires Clearing from your Lifepod in Subnautica Below Zero. Short, sweet, and efficient, I hope it helps anyone looking.
Coordinates: -136 / -8 / 43 || Blue Trivalve Egg: -1146 / 47 / 425
Remember to Be Kind, Stay Legendary, and May The Triforce Always Be With You.

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hushed jungle
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not the artic spires one

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the iceberg ones

mortal verge
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Whata the best fuel for the bioreactor?

hushed jungle
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penglings

west mountain
# hushed jungle not the artic spires one

This video shows how to find the Blue Trivalve Eggs in the West Arctic Iceberg in Subnautica Below Zero. Short, sweet, and efficient, I hope it helps anyone looking. (Ps, A pinnacarid WAS harmed in the making of this video, sorry lil dude)
Coordinates: -136 / -8 / 43 || Blue Trivalve Egg: -1146 / 47 / 425
Remember to Be Kind, Stay Legendary, and...

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thanks

west mountain
hushed jungle
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anyway to turn off fog so I can actually see something

wicked pier
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what do i do after going to ||the greenhouse?||

mortal verge
wicked pier
mortal verge
hushed jungle
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just know that I have never even built a bio reactor in bz

wicked pier
mortal verge
wicked pier
hushed jungle
carmine bobcat
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oh you scan stuff find out stuff about sam learn the spicy fruit salad

carmine bobcat
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and yea like Patzku said

wicked pier
hushed jungle
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should I let my trivalves outside?

wicked pier
hushed jungle
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wdym

west mountain
west mountain
wicked pier
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oh, i prob didnt notice that

west mountain
wicked pier
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ty

hushed jungle
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||What is inside the iceberg at east arctic||

mortal verge
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I have sinned

hushed jungle
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bruh

tawdry pumice
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Your sin is unforgivable.

mortal verge
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And I have back ups when it runs out 😭

tawdry pumice
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Pro tip, try nuclear power.

mortal verge
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Not that late game

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I don't even have the prawn suit

tawdry pumice
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Ah, ok

rugged meadow
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I've got food for ages lol

tawdry pumice
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Commit deforestation on the kelp in the name of bioreactor fuel.

mortal verge
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Kelp fuel last like 2 minutes

pearl crag
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creepy vine

tawdry pumice
rugged meadow
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there is a alive pepper on my roof

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really wish I could take them with me 😢

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||my trivalves are going with me||

stoic surge
grave kestrel
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Hi, can you give me advice how to find the frozen leviathan?

rugged meadow
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Cross the bridge

grave kestrel
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Ok thc

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thx

bold monolith
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Why would they cross it?

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Enter the Glacial Basin, go in the direction of the base, on your right there is a ladder, take it, continue straight ahead until you find a pool of water, when you are on the other side look for a radio antenna, and you'll find the frozen leviathan.

hushed jungle
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how do I open this or should it be open

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?

bold monolith
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You need the sanctuary first.

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It will open if you acquired something.

hushed jungle
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probably if I get al lan lol been refusing to go get him

bold monolith
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I didn't want to tell too many details, but yes you need Al-An.

hushed jungle
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so you can't complete the game without him

west mountain
# hushed jungle so you can't complete the game without him

It depends on your definition of "finish the game". In my opinion finding out every bit of ||Sams story|| was the main purpose why Robin came to 4546B in the first place. Once you completed that part, your next goal is to ||leave the planet||. Most people say that ||AlAn|| is the main story, but I refuse to say so. For me Sam is the main story and ||AlAn just a convenient way to leave the planet 🙂 ||

hushed jungle
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The goal is Sam

tropic girder
# west mountain It depends on your definition of "finish the game". In my opinion finding out ev...

Yeah I agree with this. ||Al-an meeting Robin was completely coincidental and, even though it takes the front seat in the gameplay, is still a side story. I think the devs wanted to make Robin’s escape less convenient and forced by not putting a fully built AlAn with a spacecraft. Robin wanted to find out about what really happened to Sam, and Marg’s story plays a big part in this, but yeah, without planning a method of escaping the planet, Robin has to help Al-an in order to leave while simultaneously searching for clues about Sam’s death.||

hushed jungle
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Marg's story is way too short

tropic girder
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||I don’t really see how they could have made it longer. It’s more of a “side mission” than a story but it does it well: it adds a lot more exploration to the game, provides a lot of background to Sam’s otherwise obscure and tangled story, and gives the player plants and other stuff without making them too hard to find without pointers.||

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||Making it longer would take too much focus away from the other stories, and it would make it a lot shallower||

rugged meadow
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Into the Unknown

west mountain
# tropic girder Yeah I agree with this. ||Al-an meeting Robin was completely coincidental and, e...

Absolutely, I like how the ||two stories intertwine with each other and its great to play both simultaniously but still finding out about your sister Sam should be the main focus. It would have helped a lot if you could not leave the planet before finishing Sams story and curing the frozen leviathan. But so, many players completely miss that part. Thats very sad and AlAn should have insisted to go back and complete that story||, imho. But OK, everybody can play the way he/she likes best.

tropic girder
# west mountain Absolutely, I like how the ||two stories intertwine with each other and its grea...

||Yeah, especially since the cure is actually pretty tricky to find. Sam’s story is drowned out by Alan’s one, and many players forget that Sam exists because of how her story takes the back seat. I agree, there should be some sort of limitation so you have to complete her story. Al-an’s story is a lot more captivating and Sam’s story is not required at all in order to finish the game. I feel like the devs went a little overboard in ensuring that the way Robin left the planet was not too shallow and “convenient” that they forgot about why Robin was there in the first place. It’s kinda sad how Robin never really seems to acknowledge how she needs to pursue Sam’s footsteps on the planet||

rapid lantern
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This game in a nutshell, you play hide and go seek with sister, but it’s cold outside, you find a sick animal and help it

carmine bobcat
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walls of black rn

rugged meadow
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I missed Sam's story in my first playthough

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reloaded that save and finished that part recently

carmine bobcat
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i almost did ||i built him went to the teleporter almost left without doing sams story||

rugged meadow
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How do we feel about shadow Levithan

eternal garnet
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I refuse to invite it for dinner

west mountain
rugged meadow
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i took care of him and his brothers... we now have mutual respect

carmine bobcat
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Since I beat the game, I’m tempted to start a new game with all the knowledge I accumulated my first playthrough

west mountain
carmine bobcat
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If I play again, it’ll be my second playthrough

west mountain
carmine bobcat
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There’s this thing called a ||teleport module|| and I have no clue how to get it

west mountain
rugged meadow
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only 10 of them for the teleport module

carmine bobcat
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Only ten

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Yea that’s easy

tepid quest
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Like which one is Levi?

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and what are the other shadows and chelicerates?

rugged meadow
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||This one is shadow Levithan||

tepid quest
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ugh

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How do I say it

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Uhm. I’m not talking about common name (i.e.: shadow leviathan, chelicerate leviathan, vent garden leviathan), but their individual names. Like the image I’ve provided:

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What are all of the names that the community has given to the individual leviathans?

west mountain
tepid quest
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😑

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I’m not talking about species or common name

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but individual names

carmine bobcat
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he means their nicknames

carmine bobcat
west mountain
# tepid quest but individual names

These are my personal nicknames, nothing official. Levi = Leviathan, just like that. Its a joke. The only named animal that I am aware of is ||Preston, the snow stalker of Maida||. I also call the squidshark in Deep Twisty Bridges "Squishy", like the one charcater from Monster University.

tepid quest
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Oooh ok

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Perhaps I should give a name to each

tepid quest
tepid quest
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I really want to be a modder

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There are so many things (wether that be pda entries, atmospheric things, and general ecological systems) that don’t make sense

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Such as the issue of what snow stalkers eat

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I could add a whole new creature for them

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I always thought that pengwings are the food but the behavior is never observed. Plus they can be found in the ice spikes, where no pengwings are.

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So it’s confusing

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It’s implied that shadow leviathans eat rock punchers but this is not observed, nor supported by pda entry. The pda just says “large fish”. Well that doesn’t make sense if there isn’t any large fish

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bz as some major ecological issues

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perhaps a mod is in order to fix them

broken badge
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You could ask around on the modding discord, there’s a link in #subnautica-modding
Some people on there might have suggestions on how to learn to make modsrooThink1

tepid quest
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Thanks!

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I’m not good enough at 3d modeling or coding yet so making new creatures would be hard

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But updating pda entries to provide more info and clarification would be attainable

tropic girder
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That sounds great! Yeah in BZ a few pda entries need beefing up, so that the lifecycle makes sense. There are some very shallow ones like the ore vein one: “resources behind loose rock” or “large ice formations” which need more detail

broken badge
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I know some of the pda entries have been corrected, probably already show up on experimental (Steam) but idk when those and bugfixes will make their way into official updatesvvShrug

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Because there’s some things that aren’t correct like about the squidshark (it’s not a leviathan)

tropic girder
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I guess me as a Switch player will have to wait for these to come out sn_neutral

broken badge
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Everyone is waiting

torn mason
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where should i visit next i have a seatruck i have been to delta station and phi labs cant get to Margaret's base yet

broken badge
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Why can’t you go there? Do you need depth module materials?

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Because you can get important module scans and diamonds and lithium in deep twisty bridges

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You can find the materials other places as well but the modules are in that specific place

torn mason
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i always run out of oxygen and my seatruck cant go deep enough to get to margs base

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also its like a maze trying to get to it

broken badge
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Have you built the storage and fabrication modules? Or gotten their blueprints?

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I suggest doing that if you haven’t

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And building the mk1 depth module

torn mason
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i have the storage module blueprint

broken badge
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You’ve made the rebreather and upgraded your oxygen tank right?

torn mason
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im trying to find the silver to make a rebreather

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but i do have a upgraded tank

broken badge
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Rebreather makes a lot of difference especially if you’re below 100m

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It removes the oxygen efficiency penalty from deep diving

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If you need silver, there’s some in kelp caves which have oxygen plants as well

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You know the kelp forests situated between twisty bridges areas

torn mason
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i have been there a couple of times

broken badge
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The thermal spires area around delta also has silver

torn mason
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ok i will head towards that area now

broken badge
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If you don’t want to go back to deep twisty for now, although you’ll eventually want to get the fabricator module imo, you can also find diamonds in ||koppa mine|| if you know where that place is, iirc it’s southwest of delta

torn mason
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is there a trick to getting to margs base?

broken badge
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The signal isn’t the best in terms of getting you there, but once you’re in the caves, look for light sticks to lead the way, there’s some oxygen plants as well, and another good trick I’ve heard is follow these mass of lights on the walls (if you scan one it’s called hivemind plant I think) they flash colors and are located on the way to her seabase

torn mason
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there is lightsticks there?

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i didnt know that that will help alot

broken badge
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Once you get near her base. In fact most important places in the game are marked out by light sticks

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Above and below water

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Not every place, but a lot of them

torn mason
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are there any places i should visit

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i have been to outpost zero delta station and phi lab

eternal garnet
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on delta you got a map on the wall. You can scan it. do all the icons there, but honestly explore everywhere

tepid quest
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Alright I’ve started work on nicknaming all the leviathans in bz

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There are four shadows, four chelicerates, and four ice worms

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I’ve decided one of these three groups should be ascribed the names of the four winds

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But I cannot choose. I want the chelicerates to be more comically named, with the shadows being more serious

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Idk about the ice worms though. They are much more annoying than terrifying

tepid quest
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Hm

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The shadows make most sense so ig I’ll do them

torn mason
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i have a rebreather a upgraded oxygen tank and the mk1 upgrade for my seatruck am i suited to make it to Margaret's base

tropic girder
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You should be

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You just might run a little low on oxygen at times

eternal garnet
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it should work if you don't get lost. at the target, go in the moon pool - there is no door

inner horizon
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I recall a year or two ago watching an official unkownworlds employee streaming the making/modification of one of the subnautica below zero maps. does anyone know if that content is still available and were to find it?
i'm not sure if i saw it on twitch or youtube, but i can't find anything like that at this point. i wanted to watch some more of the daily map makings of this game.

mint flame
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in below zero im having trouble finding the seaglide fragments
i have looked everywjhere
but i cant find the last one

eternal garnet
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stay near-ish the pod

torn mason
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i found a bunch in the spiral coral things about 100m down

eternal garnet
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twisty bridges, yes. north end

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the pod is actually in twisty bridges also, but the shallow part

torn mason
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im having a bit of trouble getting to Margaret's base i go in a cave and i always end up in a redish looking area

west mountain
# torn mason im having a bit of trouble getting to Margaret's base i go in a cave and i alway...

Here you find the instruction how to get there: ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlyVEmOvBEc||

This video shows how to find Marguerit Maida's Base from Delta Station Dock in Subnautica Below Zero (this is an updated guide). Short, sweet, and efficient, I hope it helps anyone looking.
Marguerit Maida's Base: 77 / -371 / -911 || Delta Station Dock: -129 / 4 / -577
Remember to Be Kind, Stay Legendary, and May The Triforce Always Be With You...

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thx it helps alot

eternal garnet
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yes there's a video for eeeeverything

torn mason
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i got to the base thx it helped me alot

eternal garnet
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don't leave without a thing from the floor

torn mason
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?

eternal garnet
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before leaving, check if you got something for your truck

torn mason
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oh

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i found it

eternal garnet
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k. it's manual fire, and Very Effective

torn mason
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how do i use it

eternal garnet
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select it beforehand. Fire it on start of leviathan attack. This cancels the attack

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left click (PC)

torn mason
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im on xbox

eternal garnet
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you can still select it, then it's a trigger. test it

torn mason
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where and how can i get stalker fur

eternal garnet
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easiest: make the spy pengling, and use it to grab from a live adult

torn mason
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where can i find a stalker

eternal garnet
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south of phi

torn mason
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ok thx

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i wanna make a snowsuit

carmine bobcat
west mountain
torn mason
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cold suit my bad

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i only need one more fragment to make a snowfox tho

pearl crag
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what do u need to craft ||alans tissue?||

hushed jungle
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Check the recepie

carmine bobcat
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Anyone still know that all reflections in both games are the cyclops bridge?

proper trail
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Wdym

pearl crag
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should i just ||go through alans portal?|| i hahv nothing else better to do

carmine bobcat
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whats the highest level badge for bz

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in steam for the trading cards

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nvm its 5

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i just bought 13 arctic peeper cards

pearl crag
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damn

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i finished the game

carmine bobcat
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i wish i could wipe my mind

pearl crag
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whats happens when u cure the ||leviathon||

carmine bobcat
mortal verge
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Penglins have lasted over 2 hours in my bio, I hate that it's working

pearl crag
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lol

proper trail
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Aight. That's it. I'm harvesting pengui- plants for my bioreactor

hushed jungle
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should I get squidshark eggs

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?

proper trail
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Idk

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Up to you.

hushed jungle
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no superseaglide in bz sn_neutral

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where do I get the seatruck boost thing?

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time to get scammed

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there really should be some big scary alien thing that comes after you here

proper trail
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Yeah

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A leviathan lol

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Or a rogue architecht lmao

delicate brook
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how do i get the pilot last known position signal?

light saddle
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i just spawned around 30 trivalves in creative

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totally worth it

west mountain
delicate brook
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okk thx

wicked pier
fervent lintel
west mountain
vestal bronze
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So i used a random art generator and put in the word ''Subnautica'' and wow

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Now tell me it doesnt remind you of subnautica

wicked pier
proper trail
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true

proper trail
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BZ chat kinda down these days😅

eternal garnet
proper trail
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spy penglingkirbythumbsup

carmine bobcat
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lets go I just made a seatruck

eternal garnet
crude vapor
eternal garnet
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subnautica. Looks more like BZ though

crude vapor
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lol

green willow
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OK, OK, OK, im stoopid and have not hearn any news about this topic but... Marguerit in below zero is she Marguerit Maida whom survived the degasi?

eternal garnet
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yup yup.

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She has a pretty badass story in 3 PDA's to find

green willow
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Bruh thanks

rugged meadow
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i wish there was a Robin's voice line after every PDA we finish listening

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kind of her Reaction after listening to whatever the person in the PDA said

eternal garnet
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"30 seconds"

  • "yes, I know, please stop"
west mountain
rugged meadow
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Exactly or when in one of the PDA ||Sam mentioned that she hid the cure in a cave||

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and I hate when Allen inturuppts while I'm listening to a PDA completely cutting it off

tropic girder
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What I don’t like is when ||Al-an calls|| and I’m in the middle if pressing the ignore call button, but because it happened so fast I don’t see the notice saying that it was recorded to pda

carmine bobcat
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i kinda miss the very very first storyline

small bronze
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U can scan the big snail with the red thing in is nose
at the ice mountain

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nvm i found a dead body of that bruh

tropic girder
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Love that description tbh

small bronze
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ye its what i say x)

tropic girder
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lmao

red goblet
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Hey folks- Trying to build a base but my ||Large room|| is connecting to all the rooms next to it. Is there a way to block off the connections between them?

tropic girder
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You could try building stuff inside the rooms on the wall that you don’t want it to connect to @red goblet

small bronze
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there are soo much vein in the ice mountani thing
||i really neeed to lurn biome name lmao||

tropic girder
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Arctic Spires lmao

red goblet
tropic girder
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Try putting windows

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Or does the large room just turn red

red goblet
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Will give windows a go

echo pumice
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Not sure if this is the right place to ask this but I'm looking at doing the PDA conversion from Subnautica -> Below Zero replacing the Indian accent to the original British accent, I've gotten all of the voice lines synthesized but they do not have what could be best described as "inside a tube" effect modulating the voice - would anyone have any resources or ways to replicate the effect? e.g differences between the two files I've uploaded

tepid quest
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There are tons of voice lines that are made by the xenoworks voice that you haven’t accounted for

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Why do you want to change it anyway?

echo pumice
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just a matter of experimenting, I've converted all of the BZ PDA voices so far found in the audio files. I'll probably add additional changes to the player.bank at a later date for my personal project.

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already scraped through just over 2,000 audio files

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just checked - there are 79 occurrences that I can see that contain tempindian in the audio files

tepid quest
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Tempindian? Is that what the voice is called in the files?

echo pumice
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Yes

tepid quest
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Strange. Sounds like a last minute name

echo pumice
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Definitely

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Majority of the audio if I remember correctly are stored in the player.bank file - I haven’t searched anywhere else

tepid quest
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Change ||Alan’s|| voice to be deep southern 😂

echo pumice
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LMAO

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you can genuinely change it to whatever you like as long it's within the timeframe the audio is played for and the correct format (.wav)

tepid quest
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No way

echo pumice
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yep hahahha

rugged meadow
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||you can take your trivalves with you when you leave the planet||

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||they just follow you inside the Allen's ship lol||

echo pumice
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that's hilarious

tropic girder
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Nice

echo pumice
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Still at a loss for the modulation for the voice lines :(

rugged meadow
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i spent half a hour playing with these cuties

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i also have a baby penguin but there is no play option with penguins or sea monkey sadly

small bronze
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i have never found it

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Where is the thing for that ?

eternal garnet
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it is marked in red on a map you should have scanned in Phi

small bronze
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oh

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ok its that ...

eternal garnet
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if you did, it's in your PDA: alterra/maps

small bronze
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ye i did

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Im here but i found nothing
i think its the wrong place right ?

eternal garnet
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it's not inside a dark cave. Not sure where you are. It's really close to the little lake

small bronze
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ok

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im so lost x)
i have found the lake but i dont see the place on the map

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i found !

next current
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What's up Toray? You having problems?

small bronze
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no i finnaly found the cure
thx

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grappling with prawn is so broke
im soooooooo fast

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and its so buggy that i can almost fly

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i think i have not to be here

next current
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Yeah... that's why I don't use it.

next current
carmine bobcat
small bronze
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im under the map

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near the place with snake and red big nose

upbeat folio
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Good night, guys

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Here's the thing, is it possible to somehow download your game save from the steam cloud?

small bronze
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yes its a very good game
i like it the story is less than the 1 but still good
i very like this game me

carmine bobcat
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Getting money for subnautica below zero, anyone?

mortal verge
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Help, I'm in the void

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I have died

carmine bobcat
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exit

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and take your upgrades

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and run

sand knoll
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He’s in a prawn suit

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691 meters down

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R.I.P.

carmine bobcat
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yeah

sand knoll
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He’s gonna die

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This is why you need grappling arm and jet upgrade