below-zero-chat

[warped hinge]

Who has some TASTY loot you can't find anywhere else directly underneath her

you'll ALWAYS have to go in her shadow to find this particular item

It's nowhere else on the map

[crude kite]

what lithium?

You do know there's lithium in tree spires too

[warped hinge]

No

[crude kite]

it's rarer but it exists

[warped hinge]

Not resources

fragments, that aren't anywhere else on the map

[crude kite]

also if you were to click on omega lab on the map it will say the location

[crude kite]

the seatruck sleeper module

[warped hinge]

If you don't search in her shadow, you'll never even know it's in the game

[crude kite]

I found it proves no use

in my case

[warped hinge]

I use it now and then

[steep mason]

oh cool

[warped hinge]

but I mostly want it for the Seatruck Jukebox

[crude kite]

and If you said that you can only unlock control room from the chelicerate patrolled area you have no idea how many databoxes you can find with it

there's one in outpost zero, omega lab, purple vents

[warped hinge]

And it's an almost completely useless module for a hab

Since its functionality is pretty limited

[broken badge]

I like turning off the power to scan room, since it drains some all the time

[warped hinge]

Yeah

But top tip, you don't need it when you have Geothermal

[broken badge]

I do like looking at the clock sometimes, to determine if I want to sleep or not

[steep mason]

wait, the root pustules are only used for the bioreactor?

[broken badge]

There’s an end game recipe that uses them too

[warped hinge]

Geothermal will run one indefinitely, if you have the Thermal Reactors in the right spot

[steep mason]

oh ok

[crude kite]

I have a nuclear reactor

[steep mason]

Didn't notice the spoilered bit, I'll wait for awhile lol

[warped hinge]

I love how all of the Beta recipes are updated but one

[crude kite]

and to find out time i just use f1 menu and look at time scalar

[broken badge]

It’s definitely nice there’s freebies xD

[warped hinge]

The Thumper requires magnetite now, but the Coffee Machine still just requires 2 Titanium, like the first game

even though it too is electronic

[broken badge]

Snowfox uses magnetite as well

[crude kite]

Yes indeed mercury 2 has plenty of reactor rods in the sealed supply crates

[warped hinge]

You miss the point

[crude kite]

last time i checked thumper wasn't in the first game

still why you complaining about it

keep your mouth shut it's better cheap

[warped hinge]

It's just nonsensically cheap

[broken badge]

Why would a coffee machine require magnetite

[warped hinge]

even the Vending Machine requires more than just 2 Titanium

[crude kite]

Why does this dude want recipes to be more costly

[warped hinge]

Not magnetite, ANYTHING more than just 2 titanium

[broken badge]

Idk bruh

[crude kite]

if you want to do that make yourself a mod and make recipes as hard as you want

Oh and someone forgot to fill this out

who's feeling like going to undefined

[warped hinge]

I don't, but it's funny how they were on a spree of making formerly easy recipes harder, but glossed over the always overly cheap coffee machine, and ported its recipe, with no modifications, straight from the first game

[steep mason]

Should I be worried? XD

[warped hinge]

Yes and no

[crude kite]

the coffee machine has had some changes from the first game eg you now need a thermos to get coffee

[crude kite]

well yes unless you have perimeter defense upgrade

[steep mason]

I've got nothing lol

[crude kite]

have you gone in there without a vehicle?

[steep mason]

yes, but I have the truck now, and a base powered by a bioreactor

[warped hinge]

If you have a Perimeter Defense Upgrade for the Seatruck, or a Repulsion Cannon, they are no problem

[crude kite]

fun fact: I am spicing up my 2nd below zero playthrough with not at all balanced mods and settings

[warped hinge]

the Repulsion Cannon not only stops them in their tracks, but makes them a very "good boy!" and makes them roll over

Seriously, you can spin Shadows HELPLESSLY with the Repulsion Cannon. It's REALLY funny

[crude kite]

for example I added a booster tank speed modifier mod and changed the speed modifier to 3.0 and oxygen consumption modifier to 0 meaning boosting around uses no oxygen, just the one you need to breathe

then there's seaglide overcharge which uses between 10-15% power and gives me extremely high speeds for 15 seconds

[warped hinge]

You're a BZ modder?

[crude kite]

no

[warped hinge]

Quick, someone tell The Last Bacon

[crude kite]

I just play with mods, I barely know anything about C#

[warped hinge]

he loves Subnautica and Below Zero mods

[steep mason]

I only have a Propulsion Cannon so far

[crude kite]

I already finished the game once so i'm just adding fun and unbalanced mods

[warped hinge]

A funny mod would be to give the Ice Worms actual hitboxes

[crude kite]

except that would break a lot of things

[warped hinge]

and HP, so you could|| kill them||

[crude kite]

cause as i said and multiple people said the ice worm isn't a standard entity

[warped hinge]

We know!

[crude kite]

you can't even scan a live specimen or spawn it in

[warped hinge]

It only exists when the player's around

[crude kite]

which is why the iceworm test playground exists

[warped hinge]

because the player movement spawns it in

isn't it just mostly visual effects, and HOG damage?

In other words, the model doesn't actually do the damage

it just tells damage to appear?

because it can't attack

because it's not an actual functioning entity

[crude kite]

idk man I'm not the type of person to look into this game's code to see how it functions

[warped hinge]

unlike most every other live creature in the game

That's why you can never see Ice Worms carve their subterranean ice tunnels, because they don't exist

they can sometimes pop into them, but they can't actually move through them in the directions they go

[steep mason]

I was gonna make a scanner room next to what's-her-face's base, but I need a single piece of gold and I'm finding none - instead I'm finding loads of kyanite, magnetite, and uraninite, so I might not even need the scanner room at this point XD

[warped hinge]

Aahh, my two-story Multi-Purpose Room Alien Containment Unit filled with Arctic Peepers and Bladderfish is going a bit awry/buggy. Ideally, the composition of the fish population in there should be 50/50, but right now it is 75/25, the Arctic Peepers are taking over the tank, I had, before I removed about 6 or so, cooked them and put them in the fridge so as to give my Bladderfish some room to breed more Bladderfish, about 15 Arctic Peepers and 5 Bladderfish in there, from a seed population of 3 each

Kind of annoying

[steep mason]

wooow

aight then

[broken badge]

There is a limit of 10 fish per containment room for stuff to breed (so 2 stacked rooms, max is 20) idk if that’s affecting the ratio tho

[warped hinge]

The 2-story Multipurpose Room Alien Containment Unit filled with Peepers and Bladderfish and Creepvines in the planter is a staple of any self-sufficient base in either game, particularly land bases, because Filtration Machines are almost useless out of the water

It takes care of all 3 survival elements, food, water, and health

because you can use samples from the Creepvines to make medkits

[steep mason]

if only I had the ACU

[broken badge]

You only need two of each fish to breed

[warped hinge]

you didn't need the creepvines in Subnautica though

since you have the Medical Kit Fabricator

It sucks that they didn't port it over to BZ

[broken badge]

I just use exterior growbed for creepvine

Guess if you’re on land tho

[winged shuttle]

||Im at the end of the game and the portal hasn't appeared at the phase gate facility, am I meant to go somewhere else?||

[warped hinge]

But on land, you need it in the tank, otherwise it's a long walk, plus at least a short swim, to get to it

[broken badge]

Have you tried reloading?

[winged shuttle]

Not yet will do now, just didn't know whether its the wrong location or something

[serene sparrow]

sup chat

[warped hinge]

I think my favorite plant from either game might just be Preston's Plant

It's so cool

[steep mason]

what's that?

[warped hinge]

Spoilers!

[broken badge]

Iirc you follow ||Al-An through the portal but it’s been a week or two since I finished last||

So if it’s not there then I’d try reloading the game

[serene sparrow]

i liek c monkes

[winged shuttle]

Will do

[warped hinge]

Although, from the first game, a pick is kind of hard, because I love both the Lantern Tree and Blood Kelp so much

The Lantern Tree is just so beautiful

and Blood Kelp is creepy, I suppose, but I can't take my eyes off of it

[serene sparrow]

this squidshark just exploded my seatruck

rest in piece sea truckin’

[winged shuttle]

I restarted ||and I saw the portal particles for a few seconds, then they vanished within a few seconds||

[broken badge]

I think I’ve heard of this bug, but I don’t know what to do for it unfortunately and most people who might aren’t really on rn.
Leave a report in #🐞bug-smash if you can, and I’ll try and see if someone can get back to you

[winged shuttle]

Cheers :)

[serene sparrow]

using the ||perimeter defense module|| should use up like seatruck 1 energy from the seatruck everytime its used

[broken badge]

Hope it can get sorted for you @winged shuttle

[serene sparrow]

it just feels too op

[broken badge]

1 energy? It does use seatruck energy but what sort of units are you talking about

A whole power cell? That would be too much

[serene sparrow]

not like that

i just meant one energy from one power cell

[broken badge]

1% like that?

I think it does

[serene sparrow]

it didnt seem like it

[lean notch]

Unless you have ion cells

[serene sparrow]

it felt like it drained my energy at the same rate

[lean notch]

But ye it's too op

[serene sparrow]

either make it use more energy or nerf the cooldown

or buff the cooldown

idk, make the cooldown longer

[lean notch]

Idk why they changed it from the first game

[serene sparrow]

what was it like in the first game

[lean notch]

You had to charge it

[serene sparrow]

oh

also the module is basically easy to get

[lean notch]

Like 20% for a full charge from one power cell

[eager rock]

has the rebreather save issue in below zero been fixed yet?

[lean notch]

What?

[serene sparrow]

you just need to go to ||the ladies base because i dont want to mess up her name|| and you get a free one

[warped hinge]

you mean, "the WHAT?"

[serene sparrow]

?

[warped hinge]

not you, Lethal Potato

[serene sparrow]

what

[lean notch]

What

Never heard of a rebreather save issue

[warped hinge]

What Lethal Potato meant to say to you, Kapi, was "the what?"

[serene sparrow]

how do you spell her name

[lean notch]

Marguerite

[serene sparrow]

yeah

you go to ||her base|| and free ||perimeter defense||

[lean notch]

I meant to say what I said

[warped hinge]

Because that's what you say when you've never heard of something

[lean notch]

Ok Mr English teacher

[warped hinge]

I've never heard of this issue either, btw

[lean notch]

I'll just continue saying "what"

[warped hinge]

Fine by me

[serene sparrow]

tes

[river dust]

Uh, just noticed this in my latest play-through ||(skipping alan) - you need 4 pieces of the Prawn suite - but there are only 3 ouside the Kappa mining base underwater? so you have to get down there to get the suit?||

[eager rock]

well apparently a few people have had issues with being able to save as soon as they pick up the rebreather schematic

[serene sparrow]

i was about to call you out on the spoilers lol

[lean notch]

There's 5 that are not in the koppa mine afaik

[serene sparrow]

perimeter defense op, pls nerf

[broken badge]

You can get all 4 pieces scanned in ||Koppa mine||

[river dust]

hmm, so i missed some, only have 3 scanned so far, ||including the one in the leviathan cave||

[serene sparrow]

sea monkeys are cute

[lean notch]

||3 at the mercury 2 wreck and 2 at outpost zero||

[river dust]

ah yeah, the ||wreck|| havent been there either yet. Thanks!

[serene sparrow]

where do i find diamonds

[lean notch]

Scanner room

[serene sparrow]

hope to find some diamonds tonight night night

[lean notch]

Deep twisty

[serene sparrow]

diamonds tonight

if you dont get the reference i feel bad

[river dust]

below the twisty ridges actually

[lean notch]

Ye deep twisty

[river dust]

you might also find them on the soles of her shoes... (another vague reference 🙂

[serene sparrow]

wheres deep twisty?

[lean notch]

In the deep part of twisty bridges

[river dust]

below twisty ridges. Search for holes in the bottom of twisty ridges (the area with those twisty glowing coral ribbons)

[lean notch]

Pretty sure it's near the sos signal

[serene sparrow]

why am i being attacked by mama luigi

[broken badge]

Wth

[serene sparrow]

help mama luigi is attacking me

[steep mason]

...I can't deconstruct these ghosts, nor finish them, and it's driving me nuts

Every single spot showed up as green, but the moment I tried building it decided NOPE

[serene sparrow]

hmmmmmmm

have you tried turning it off and on again?

[steep mason]

I can't build directly on the heat areas either, and that's really annoying too

[serene sparrow]

like i said, turn it off and on again

sorry

i dont know what to do

did you make sure your inventory wasnt full?

[steep mason]

it wasn't lol

[serene sparrow]

then idk

go ask john

[steep mason]

I accidentally built my base directly over a pair of heat spots, which meant I only needed one power transmitter to get that power to my base, I love this 😄

[lean notch]

Maybe reload your save

[fluid adder]

could be a visual glitch

[warped hinge]

Meet Frost Phantom, the second of my two Prawn Suits in this playthrough of BZ, my Prawn specialized for land work

do you like the color?

And yes, because game logic, the Ice Worm turns into an ICBM and CAN both detect me and hit the Prawn up here, even though it can’t hit me

Which is weird

More game logic, I suppose.

And yeah, I have 4 Thumpers if I really want some privacy from the Ice Worm, but it really shouldn’t be able to reach up here

It wasn’t able to originally

Don’t know why they changed that

[serene sparrow]

game logic is cringe sometimes

[warped hinge]

What do you think of the color of my Frost Phantom Prawn?

Also, what do you think of the name?

[sterile shadow]

Reminds me of MMORPGs. Sounds like it'd be an enemy in World of Warcraft or something.

[spark pike]

reminds me of ice age and sid the sloth

[sterile shadow]

The colour isn't that bad either.

[spark pike]

wow we had way different ideas of the name

[sterile shadow]

And that is what is so beautiful about humans

[spark pike]

your human?

[sterile shadow]

Jk I'm reptilian

[spark pike]

i’m part sea monkey

[sterile shadow]

Dang. One of your parents procreated with a Sea Monkey?

[spark pike]

nah

i’m like tarzan they raised me my parents were eaten by ice worms

[sterile shadow]

Sees Sea Monkey: It do be looking kinda cute doe

[spark pike]

they gimme the good stuff

[sterile shadow]

That being the gift of life 🌞

[spark pike]

no ruby’s

[sterile shadow]

That too 🤷‍♂️

[steep mason]

The Shadow Leviathan is kinda sad, ngl

[warped hinge]

I mean, I’d make it pink but… …I’m only willing to take RP so far. I am a guy, of course.

[steep mason]

It doesn't even take 40 health from the truck, and the moment it stops trying to eat it, it swims away and I can get out and fix it

[sterile shadow]

Of course, pfft. This IS a video game server

[warped hinge]

That color is sufficiently girly for RP but gender neutral enough that I can tolerate it

[steep mason]

It's a non-issue

[sterile shadow]

RP as in roleplaying?

[warped hinge]

Bingo.

[sterile shadow]

Do you do roleplaying in Subnautica? 😯

[warped hinge]

Both games, yes. Although I inhabit Ryley, I am a guy so, I don’t really have to do much in the way of RP, I just am myself

But Robin however, is female RP for me, since I am not female

[sterile shadow]

Oh okay, so you're just kind of referencing putting yourself in the situation of Robin/Ryley?

I personally never really think of that when playing video games 🤔 If I did then yeah, it'd probably change a lot about how I would play (customizing colours, etc.)

[warped hinge]

With Ryley I just am myself, with Robin, I try to play the character

Not play myself, but play her as much as I can

[sterile shadow]

I kind of play games from a third-person perspective (as myself) but I imagine it'd be fun to RP as the character themselves. 😎

[warped hinge]

One thing about character RP with Robin, I do a lot of interior decorating

Not only that, I always make a research room

With all the collectibles, so I have a place to store them and ponder my sister

[sterile shadow]

Ahh keeping it accurate I see 😏

[warped hinge]

I think her favorite Jukebox songs are probably Survive and Deep Blue

Survive because it’s catchy, and a canonically new release in UWE’s game universe, and Deep Blue because it’s kind of R&B, a very popular genre among women

And the closest thing to pop music(the statistically MOST popular music genre among women) that the Jukebox has canonically

[random compass]

a very popular genre among women
this is the first I hear of this xD

[steep mason]

yaaaaaas, Swim Charge Fins!

[serene sparrow]

wait, people rp as the characters?

i just do whatever i want

[warped hinge]

Swim Charge Fins are so useful

[steep mason]

No more swapping the batteries out on my seaglide

[serene sparrow]

seaglide is a bit more annoying to keep charged in this game

[warped hinge]

And since there aren’t any Ultra Glide Fins in BZ, no point in ever taking them off, either!

[steep mason]

ehhh, not really imo, you get the battery charger immediately

[serene sparrow]

eh ig

[steep mason]

lol finally got the power cell charger

I don't need it, I have two moonpools XD

[serene sparrow]

i find it kind of annoying to go on long resource runs

[spark pike]

u go on resource runs?

[serene sparrow]

occasionally to go find titanium and stuff

[warped hinge]

Yes you do, for land bases

[serene sparrow]

to decorate my base

[warped hinge]

You can’t build Moonpools out of the water

It just doesn’t work

[spark pike]

says who

[steep mason]

I never really spent much time on land in SN, I wasn't expecting that to change for this game

[warped hinge]

But it has

[spark pike]

what do u think robin smells like😏

[steep mason]

...salt and sweat, ig

[warped hinge]

Before you find the schematics to make bathroom base elements, I would say terrible

After you find them and build them, probably better, but still not great

[steep mason]

there are bathroom base elements?

[warped hinge]

Remember, alien planet, there’s no deodorant or perfume(except to loot from Alterra bases maybe?🤔)

[warped hinge]

Yes. They, the non-functional stove, the functional Refrigerator, and functional Jukebox are the main new indoor placeables in BZ

Oh, and the Recyclotron

[steep mason]

First nuclear reactor! 😄

[random compass]

funnily enough, Titanium because one of the rarest minerals if you play long enough xD

Titanium and Quartz respectively

[steep mason]

base building?

[warped hinge]

Says I, someone who has tried it

[sterile shadow]

Did you even exhaust all of the scraps at the Mercury II wrecks?

[spark pike]

for me it’s lead

[random compass]

yes

i attempted to build a massive base, a few months ago

[warped hinge]

No. Glacial Basin and Arctic Spires have massive reserves

[random compass]

that leads to all areas and connects all places

[sterile shadow]

Dang. One thing I like to do is reinstall the game and then it resets all of the ores in the whole game for me

[random compass]

they'll dwindle quickly enough if you try to do what I did

[warped hinge]

Fun fact, there’s also around 1,000-1,500 Limestone outcrops in the Twisty Bridges alone. So that’s around anywhere from 500-750 titanium from just the Twisty Bridges Limestone alone, not even counting fragment titanium or titanium drops from other outcrops

[random compass]

Well, I had like 7 Scan Rooms with range upgrades active but could not find enough Titanium nor Quartz to actually finish a Base that would connect ALL areas above as well as beneath ground. I had tons of lockers full of everything else though.

at some point I just gave up

[warped hinge]

Most of the LRDs are above the Tree Spires or in the CCs

Sadly, no resources in the FC, as far as I am aware

Though that may have changed, since I haven’t been to the FC in a while

Last time I was down there was 2 patches ago

And much has changed on the map since then

[steep mason]

why do some gel sacks have bars, and the others don't?

...also, my thermal plants don't seem to want to connect to my base...

Swim Charge Fins get! 😄

[warped hinge]

Confirmed issue, I have it too

Connecting Geothermal Reactors to your base in this game is very hard

[sterile shadow]

Perhaps using Power Transmitters might help.

[steep mason]

I have them lol

[warped hinge]

Not least of which because you can’t build Power Transmitters on perfectly vertical surfaces in this game, unlike the last game

[steep mason]

Even though I built my base literally right above a pair of heat spots just north of Delta Base, they're not that close lol

[sterile shadow]

The blue lines are connecting from the Thermal Plants, to the Power Transmitters, and then to your base?

[steep mason]

Sometimes they connect to the base, sometimes they don't

or rather, I have one literally right beneath my Moonpool and sometimes it decides to disconnect

[sterile shadow]

Dang. Maybe it's a bug that they have to fix. Not sure why that is.

[warped hinge]

It’s hard to hook up Thermal Reactors in efficient locations without dying

Especially in BZ, since the RDS is harder to find, AND just as expensive

[quasi vault]

Uh

Thas a lot of gel sacks

[steep mason]

yup

[warped hinge]

Remind me to show you guys sometime, I just almost died the other day in BZ while setting up two of them

[steep mason]

for aerogel, snacking, bioreactors, etc

[quasi vault]

What smart below zero players do:

Get one single gell sack and keep harvesting that single one

[steep mason]

I did die trying to set up my first thermal reactor cause I got caught in a geyser

[warped hinge]

I took 98 damage from one of the geysers

Left me on 2 health, yes, 2!

[quasi vault]

What new players do that don’t know anything about the game: “I don’t have any more (growable material), I gotta go back to the (dangerous biome)

[warped hinge]

Ooh ooh, that’s new players with regards to Gel Sacks, Deep Shrooms, and Blood Oil in the first game in a nutshell!

[quasi vault]

Lol

Blood oil isn’t that useful tho

[warped hinge]

Benzene?

[quasi vault]

Yeah

[warped hinge]

Plus, Blood Kelp is cool

[quasi vault]

But terrifying as hell

[warped hinge]

I always take some home with me and grow it in a 2 story ACU in Subnautica, it’s so cool

[steep mason]

the BKZ took me like 4 tries to find lmao

[quasi vault]

The what?

[warped hinge]

There I can admire it far away from Crab Squids, Amp Eels, Warpers, and Ghost Leviathans

I’m sad that there’s no equivalent in BZ

[quasi vault]

The forbidden spaghetti noodle

[steep mason]

Blood Kelp Zone

[quasi vault]

Anyone else just wondering: how did marge get passed the void???

She rode on a dead reaper and got to sector zero

[steep mason]

void?

[warped hinge]

The Reaper scared off the Ghosts for some reason

[steep mason]

sector zero?

[warped hinge]

BZ map

[warped hinge]

LEVIATHAN HAUNTED map border in both games

[steep mason]

ah

[quasi vault]

That’s- that raises even more questions

The reaper is 50 meters and the adult ghosts are 100+ meters.

[warped hinge]

Ghosts aren’t made for combat

[quasi vault]

The void cheli isn’t scary.

[quasi vault]

Ohhhh

[warped hinge]

A Reaper could kill one easily

[quasi vault]

Why do they attack the cyclops and us then?

[warped hinge]

They’re squishy, they have weak, transparent flesh

[warped hinge]

Because being weak doesn’t preclude being territorial.

They aren’t apex predators, but they are territorial. Many real creatures are the same way

[quasi vault]

Explain

[warped hinge]

Arctic Foxes, for one

Wolves and Foxes are not apex predators, but territorial none the less

Bears eat them though

[quasi vault]

True

Ghosties deal less damage than the reapers

[warped hinge]

Yes and no. Their bite does more damage, but that’s because they only have one attack. Reapers have two, a ram and a bite

[quasi vault]

Oh

They might be apex but they’re not very smart

I mean the reapers

[warped hinge]

Reapers are not Apex either

Only live Apex predators in Subnautica are the Sea Dragon Leviathans

Now, we should probably talk about BZ again

[warped hinge]

BZ is immersive. You don’t drown in land bases ever, even if they have no power

[steep mason]

no clue why, but for whatever reason my power transmitter I mentioned earlier that was having problems connected to something faaar off in the distance towards the northeast of Delta base??

No clue what it was

[short knot]

Second base maybe?

[steep mason]

no, my second base isn't near the surface of the water

[short knot]

just follow the line then?

[steep mason]

it disappeared after a moment

[short knot]

I guess its a bug then

[steep mason]

probably

[stoic cargo]

You can't drown in a above sea level alien containment tank?

oh wow that conversation was old

[prisma tiger]

helo!

anyone?

[next current]

Howdy! 👋 🤠

[delicate fossil]

Hello

[serene sparrow]

monke

[next current]

I prefer Sea Monke's.

[serene sparrow]

yes

[carmine bobcat]

hi

I finally finished the game

well I finished it yesterday but yeah

Now I've decided to play through the old story

let me just say It's weird not having my bases

[next current]

Both Tom's and Jill's stories are great imo.

[carmine bobcat]

Is this the current story or the old one?

[next current]

The current story is Jill's, the old one is Tom's.

[carmine bobcat]

oh yeah

I don't actually remember jill

hang on lemme look at the wiki

oh

the writers

yeah okay

Well I really liked the current story

[serene sparrow]

does the new pda voice have like some sort of accent?

[carmine bobcat]

hopefully the old one is just as good

[carmine bobcat]

yep

[serene sparrow]

what accent

[next current]

Indian I think. I dunno, I'm not good with voices and accents.

Nonetheless, I still like it. :)

[carmine bobcat]

A lot of people have been upset at the new pda voice i think

but I like it

[serene sparrow]

eh i dont really mind it

[carmine bobcat]

i believe the reason it uses a different voice is because in the original game you have an alterra pda and in BZ you have a xenoworx pda

[next current]

That is correct.

[serene sparrow]

alterra seems like one of those corrupt companies that only cares about money

[carmine bobcat]

they are

[serene sparrow]

alterra is subnauticas version of EA

XD

[carmine bobcat]

alterra is a trans-gov as well

i believe it's called "trans-gov"

[serene sparrow]

what does it mean

[carmine bobcat]

basically they have citizens and stuff

but they're still a company

and they control some solar systems

but they don't fight wars and stuff

[serene sparrow]

i dont see how robin could basically survive having her leg in the fire

if you look close at the opening cutscene

[carmine bobcat]

you could survive with your leg on fire

her suit might've protected her

[serene sparrow]

whats the suit made of then

[carmine bobcat]

i don't know

[serene sparrow]

im pretty sure she was sitting in fire too

[carmine bobcat]

nah

[serene sparrow]

because when you look back its already spread to the seat she was on

[carmine bobcat]

seat wasn't on fire i don't think

[serene sparrow]

it is when the camera turns back to it after you get out

also those kicks looked weak

idk why im over analyzing the opening cutscene

[carmine bobcat]

I haven't seen the beginning cutscene in ages

im playing through the old story which got scrapped

but you can access it in the Betas

[serene sparrow]

they really did just go and change the voice actors too

[carmine bobcat]

once you finish the main game i'd suggest going to the old story and playing through it

might be fun

[serene sparrow]

i guess atleast BZ had a story in itself

original didnt really have any story in itself

[carmine bobcat]

it did

[serene sparrow]

just past stories

it didnt feel like it

[carmine bobcat]

in the original you get the degasi crew story

[serene sparrow]

i know but i mean like

a story from your own perspective

[carmine bobcat]

ah

yeah i get that

yeah there wasn't any character development from ryley or anything

[serene sparrow]

he couldn’t even speak

he could only scream

[carmine bobcat]

yep

and grunt

[serene sparrow]

yes

robin has a voice actor

i wonder if her voice logs would be used in future games?

[carmine bobcat]

ryley does

[serene sparrow]

if we do get a subnautica 2

[carmine bobcat]

but he just grunts

[serene sparrow]

and screams

underwater screams

[carmine bobcat]

rip

[serene sparrow]

oof

[carmine bobcat]

in my opinion the leviathans in BZ are scarier than in the original game

[serene sparrow]

||shadow leviathan|| is super weird

[carmine bobcat]

i could see the shadow leviathan being a parasite to the gargantuan leviathan.

like latching onto it

but i doubt it's a parasite

[serene sparrow]

i still think the shadow leviathan is weird looking

[carmine bobcat]

my personal theory is that they were outcompeted by the chelicerate

and are forced to live in the caves where they have enough food to survive

the chelicerate would easily tear a shadow to pieces considering the shadow has to latch onto it's prey

[serene sparrow]

they say if you kill a leviathan they dont respawn but how are you supposed to kill them

you only have a knife

[carmine bobcat]

prawn suit

[serene sparrow]

yeah i just remembered that

[carmine bobcat]

with drill arm and grappling hook

[serene sparrow]

this rock puncher slapped me

so i perimeter defensed him

[carmine bobcat]

i slapped a rock puncher with my prawn suit once

i killed it ):

[serene sparrow]

why do rock punchers jump on the prawn suits

[carmine bobcat]

they don't

do they?

[serene sparrow]

why does it seem like they do

they always jumped towards my prawn suit in creative

[carmine bobcat]

weird

ok imma go

bye

[serene sparrow]

byebye

[rigid creek]

anyone know is it possible to tame a snow stalker ??

[untold imp]

I don’t think so, but you can feed the baby snow stalkers

[rigid creek]

Yeah I'm doing that but I thought that mey be possible to tame a baby one

[untold imp]

Would be cool if we could

[stoic cargo]

In theory yes because Marg trained one

[warped hinge]

No, you can’t drown in the dry part of land habs, even if they are unpowered, because they are on land

[safe sun]

In an alien containment you can, yes.

[random compass]

I guess that joke went right over your head 😄

[wraith crypt]

Is it possible to restore an older version of a save?

[eternal garnet]

yes, if you downgrade the game. To do that (steam) you enter a beta code

[eternal garnet]

If you meant hours/days earlier, no. But if your save is red and from an older version, see above

[wraith crypt]

alright thanks

my save is bugged now (terrain not loading properly) so I can't get 3 late game achievements sadly

Kinda sad to lose my progress because of it

[safe sun]

What happened?

[wraith crypt]

Started the game today. Things looked fine and as I was going away from my save point, terrain was not loading properly and I can't save once I'm in a bugged area

looking like this everywhere

I suppose mods didn't help

[safe sun]

Chances are it's a mod issue. I'd check on the Modding server and see if they can help you troubleshoot it.

[quick hawk]

bellow zero - what is current steam version number? 44290?

[wraith crypt]

nah they couldn't help me about it, I tried starting the save without the mods and it did the same thing

I wish I could just get those final achievements without having to start a new save

[lean notch]

You could google it

That do be a lot of upgrade slots

[wraith crypt]

yeah kinda useless tbh, I didn't bother change the config

[safe sun]

Have you tried verifying your game files yet?

[eternal garnet]

44290 yes

[wraith crypt]

yep

I really don't understand what happened because I just started the game again and moved by foot somewhere and I was clipping though unloaded terrain

well if anyone has a save to get the ||cure, creating Al-an's body and leaving the planet|| achievements I would be glad

[random compass]

I think he might simply be out of bounds there

[wraith crypt]

What you see on my screenshot is supposed to be delta island

[dusty fractal]

Do I need sea truck depth module to get to the lady’s base

[random compass]

oh, that's funny then xD

[wraith crypt]

yep

[random compass]

yesn't

[wraith crypt]

if you want to go by sea truck

But you can go with sea glide, there are some air plants

[random compass]

you can also just park your truck above the cave entrance and dive down via sea glide, which might be more comfortable to do btw

[dusty fractal]

Do I need rebreather?

It’s hard to find lmao it doesn’t give you the real location of her base

I have drowned twice now trying to get to her base

[wraith crypt]

yeah it's kinda deep like ~250m?

[narrow mirage]

question

i found a lot of jellyfishes one time

are them a strange biome

or this thing happens. in some biomes

because this happened in the sparse artic

[wraith crypt]

they spawn a lot in the sparse arctic only I believe

Eggs are in ||tunnels|| mostly

[narrow mirage]

ok

[echo aspen]

sup homies

[bright meadow]

sup

[broken badge]

So I found an answer for you, it is a known issue, and if you check the pins there is something about it (look for the 3rd entry down I think it is, from one of our playtesters Ignis who describes what you need to do to remedy the situation) 👍

[broken badge]

I asked someone and they said unless it’s just an unusual bug, they should be able to be deconstructed so maybe try verifying game files if you haven’t already. Otherwise report it in game using feedback or here using #🐞bug-smash
Sorry that happened tho

[gilded remnant]

Yooo, just beat the game

Amazing gameplay

[echo aspen]

is there a medkit fabricator in this game like in the first

[wraith crypt]

nop you need to use fiber mesh

you can plant creepvine in an external growbed to farm it

[next current]

Plus, supply caches have a lot of supply crates with health kits.

[thorn tusk]

I'm so bummed right now. No mods at all with my game its full vanilla. I attached my Prawn to the dock of my Sea Truck and when I got out of the Prawn I had no swimming animation. I's in the bridges so I fell as if on dry land until I finally hit the bottom. Still can't swim. Tried De-Bug menu with no success. My game as it stands is currently unplayable. I have no idea how to fix this. Tried many ways to get swimming back but no success

Tried entering and exiting the Sea Truck before I fell.
Tried Seaglide.
Tried jumping a lot.

[random compass]

If you got habitat builder and some minerals on you

[thorn tusk]

no

[random compass]

build a simple tube with an entry

[thorn tusk]

i have neither on me they're in my sea truck storage

[random compass]

what you got with you?

(screenshot might be simplest way^^)

[thorn tusk]

seaglide, thermal knife, repair and laser tool, a cured arctic peeper lol

I went in bare bones because I was farming lead

[random compass]

when was your last save?

[thorn tusk]

I force closed the game bc I clipped through the map so im stuck down in a random small crater of the bridges

[random compass]

do you care about achievements?

[thorn tusk]

No because I can get them anytime

Its like the Prawn was what caused the entire issue

[random compass]

its actually a bug that is related to entering or exiting pretty much anything

[thorn tusk]

dang

[random compass]

when you exit or enter anything, it plays an animation, during that animation, your state is being toggled

sometimes something doesn't work properly, haven't ever found reliable replication steps

but there is a teleport home command that will teleport you acbk to the last used base building

[thorn tusk]

yeah bc when you exit the prawn when docked on the truck its very abrupt so I can see why certain things may bug in that instance. But for anything entering or exiting to possibly do that is sad news

okay im here for the teleport idea

[random compass]

if you fall through it again, you might have to tp AGAIN and quickly enough interact with the bases door, that will appropriately toggle your status again

but the teleport command MIGHT disable achievements for the current one

[thorn tusk]

okay

[random compass]

I should also clarify, this is not usually a thing

but when it happens, that animation skipping is what causes it

warpme
it used to be this command but i just checked it, and it got added to legacy which means it is not supposed to work anymore xD

[thorn tusk]

hhmmm

[random compass]

see if it works, if not, there is a cheese around you can try, by simply teleporting to dry land

[thorn tusk]

trying now

[random compass]

how's it going

[thorn tusk]

anything teleport wasnt working or making an impact so i did a command kill back to my sea truck and now my animation is corrected

[random compass]

would have been my next suggestion^^

[thorn tusk]

when in doubt, kill command lol

[eternal garnet]

there's "warpforward 10" or "ghost"

[random compass]

anyway, glad you "fixed" it^^ gl

warpforward is tricky thoughif you have to aim idagonally to try and land on land 😄

[thorn tusk]

lol thank you so much for the help. Dying was easier than ghost and all. I didnt have anything to lose

[random compass]

already warped myself below the map attempting that 😂

[random compass]

gl hf, hope it won't reoccur xD

[thorn tusk]

much appreicated. Thank you for taking the time

[random compass]

no problem^^

[warm geode]

It's interesting how much lead is used in below zero, however it was borderline useless in the first Subnautica

[runic escarp]

Funny story one time, I was 500 meters away from my base and my hydration meter was at 3

I had to use my heated knife to cook a pepper so I could get a bit more hydration so I could make it back to my base without dying

By the time I got back to the base, my hydration meter was at 2

[eternal garnet]

the end. I found some of the character development a bit weak

[random compass]

yeah, felt really one dimensional

[warm geode]

True. It's funny how you don't even need to find the ||frozen leviathan ||to finish the game.

Whoops, spoiler.

[runic escarp]

Meanwhile in the original subnautica, it felt like I was the character

[warm geode]

Well, Riley is a silent protagonist

[runic escarp]

Not really a spoiler since it's shown in one of the cinematic trailers

[warm geode]

I'll just leave it anyway ig

[random compass]

makes sense though, considering the virus is no elementary part of the story of the game

[warm geode]

You just abandon the knowledge what happened to your sister though, Robin is still like "Nothing left to do here" though.

[runic escarp]

I still haven't beaten the game, probably because I've been working on my base

I have the || resources to build the architect skeleton ||

[warm geode]

About the ||architect body stuff||:
The first thing I found was the ||tissues||, because I loved the ice worms and built a base next to them

[runic escarp]

I have a || prawn suit || and || seatruck || btw but still don't have the || snowfox ||

[warm geode]

||snowfox|| isn't worth if you have a prawn

[random compass]

you know what annoys me a little bit?
the fact that the containment is a fish tank and it can house Penglings...
Penglings can not breathe underwater. yet you can shove em in there and they have no trouble surviving xD

[runic escarp]

lmao

[eternal garnet]

"Penglings can not breathe underwater". Says who?

[warm geode]

No cost too great for a pet

[eternal garnet]

they aren't actually birds. Birds are an Earth thing

[random compass]

the fact they spend majority of their time above water and can breathe above water.

[eternal garnet]

they spend most of their time falling over

also you didn't prove your point

[random compass]

which makes my point, you can't fall over under water

[warm geode]

I still have that one base with 10 small penglings in there, right next to their families

[random compass]

thank you for arguing my case 😄

[eternal garnet]

your point goes moo

[random compass]

you just mad cause you know i'm right

[runic escarp]

I wonder how many players have straight up stolen a pengling

[warm geode]

My question is, who doesn't have an emotional support pengling

[random compass]

i am more curious as to how many players got frozen and drowned tbh

[random compass]

get Cuddle fish for that

[warm geode]

Too many have one, I hatched stalkers as personal dogs

[random compass]

Legend says, if you find and collect all three eggs, then hatch them at the same time in a 3 stories tall tank, nothing special will happen

[eternal garnet]

lots of players go "ooh, I can pick it up"

many of them put it back down

[runic escarp]

Also I died one time a few days ago, I was trying to grab some resources in the || purple vents biome || saw a || giant leviathan || , panicked and tried to get into my seatruck as fast as possible but I was clicking in the wrong area and died, then I respawned in that same seatruck

[warm geode]

Playing the original right now, Ghost leviathans are such adorable noodles

[eternal garnet]

you have derp sharks, the little ones that can't really swim

[random compass]

I didn't like the map design of the original one

[runic escarp]

After I respawned in the seatruck, the || leviathan || was gone

[random compass]

particularly the area at the star of the wreck, was too tedious and frustrating to try and find missing cyclops pieces there

[warped hinge]

What I was saying is, outside of an ACU in a unpowered land base, you cannot drown

Since there’s always oxygen because you’re out of the water

[carmine bobcat]

im wondering how the water is hotter than land

[eternal garnet]

water is never colder than freezing point. The air can be, especially with wind chill

however, heat transfer is much stronger in water. So it doesn't make total sense

[random compass]

that's remarkably not true

[eternal garnet]

salt water can be a little colder, not a lot

[random compass]

as long as the water is in motion, it will take significantly longer to freeze, even more so on large bodies.

the salt% also has an impact on that, yes

also waters density

[winged shuttle]

Just saw this now, will check cheers

[random compass]

we don't know the gravital situation of the planet, nor it's diameter and density, it is very much possible that the planet is fairly small but sustains life due to high density and other aspects, that would also allow water to stay fluid below the freezing point, more so in large bodies and under constant movement

there are a lot of factors that would contribute to that

but at the same time, it's a fantasy setting so... magic? xD

[frigid depot]

I’m stuck in below zero, idk what to do next

||I’ve built a base went to the delta station went to the pilot last location base got the sea truck ||

So now what do I do?

[eternal garnet]

Did you find the pilot?

Also probably next is the SOS in twisty bridges at 200m

[steep mason]

Definitely wanna get the mk 2 or 3 depth upgrade to the truck

Helps a lot

[frigid depot]

Wdym the pilot

[steep mason]

of the PRAWN suit

[eternal garnet]

you saw the pilot. Have you found her again?

[spice seal]

The pilot who's last known location you just said you went to

[frigid depot]

I’m in the floating spores biome right now looking for the body cache- is there anything dangerous there???

[frigid depot]

Oh yeah that lady?

[eternal garnet]

so you did do the SOS

[spice seal]

Yes

[frigid depot]

Yeah I did

So is their anything dangerous in this floating spores biome

[spice seal]

I assume you mean lilypads

[frigid depot]

It’s like a orange biome

[spice seal]

I have no clue what you're talking avout

[frigid depot]

I will pic

[eternal garnet]

it's flowering spores aka. deep lilypad

[frigid depot]

Is there leviathans? I got attacked by one 3 times today in the pink vent biome

[eternal garnet]

no

[frigid depot]

Ok good thank you

[spice seal]

There are Lilypaddlers and a single squidshark in the lower part of the biome, no Leviathans

There's also those grabby plants

[eternal garnet]

look out for 2 new metals

[frigid depot]

Thank you, I gotta go quick I’m only using my sea glide cause my sea truck only can go 150 meters down

[dusty fractal]

Where the heck can I find a parallel processing unit

[frigid depot]

I’m wondering that to

[eternal garnet]

in the three wrecks

3+2+1 of them in the 3 parts

[spice seal]

||Mercury II||

[steep mason]

get yourself some depth upgrades for that truck ASAP, it'll make your life SO much easier

[dusty fractal]

My sea truck is about to break lmao I need a repair tool

[frigid depot]

Thanks

[frigid depot]

Good idea I’m not even out of the main area of the biome and I only have 100 oxygen

[spice seal]

You'll need a laser cutter

[steep mason]

Yeah, you won't get very far without some sort of good oxygen source down there

you can get some really nice materials from where you find that pilot, but in order to get very far down there you need that truck - there aren't many oxygen plants below the 300m mark

[frigid depot]

HELP

A lily paddler has me

I paused the game, what happens

[spice seal]

They don't want to hurt you

[eternal garnet]

turn 180 when they attack

[frigid depot]

I thought it was nice so I went up to scan it

[spice seal]

They just use it as a defense so stuff won't eat them

[eternal garnet]

you are drugged for 20s. Don't trust readouts or beacons

[frigid depot]

Ok thanks I’m intrigued on what I’m gonna see

[eternal garnet]

such pretty colors, man

[frigid depot]

Where did my seatruck go….

Uh oh

What could have killed my seateuck

I’m out of that tho

It’s gone

[eternal garnet]

bumped below 150 probably

[frigid depot]

Ur right

[spice seal]

Deep Lilypads

[frigid depot]

I’m about to die

Actually I can use my air bladder

Dang it man

[spice seal]

I only got hypnotized by a paddler one time when I tried to scan one near the surface, I was right next to my seatruck so I just hopper right back in and waited it out

[frigid depot]

I was going back up to upgrade the depth

Yeah luckily but I gotta pass through a biome with that leviathan in the pink vents

[winged shuttle]

Didn't seem to work :I

||portals still not there||

[spice seal]

Just stick to the west part of the biome by the island, the leviathan is all the way in the east I think

[broken badge]

@deep kettle you got any other ideas for the ||portal not showing up endgame||?

I referred Baby_Lemon to the pins

[broken badge]

I’ll see if anyone has other suggestions. This is kinda out of my expertise😔

[steep mason]

I've never encountered the leviathan in the pink vents lol

[broken badge]

Purple vents you mean?

[steep mason]

ye

[winged shuttle]

Cheers, no worries if I just gotta wait for another update

[broken badge]

Yeah but it just sucks to get to the end & have that happen to you

[winged shuttle]

Yea :(

[broken badge]

@bold monolith you have other suggestions they tried pins & didn’t resolve the ||endgame portal issue||

[winged shuttle]

Should I have both of these files?

They both seem to contain similar stuff

[broken badge]

I’ll have to ask I don’t play on PC

[eternal garnet]

yes

[winged shuttle]

Oh one isn't baked I see

I've definitely deleted the right one and I only have one game save

Wack

[broken badge]

If someone comes up with a suggestion I’ll be sure you get a ping👍

[frigid depot]

This really all I came down here for???

||yes||

|| wait I found the skeleton ||

[winged shuttle]

||there should be one of the body pieces||

[frigid depot]

I found it thank you 🙏

Subnautica vibes

Wish I could pick them up

[spice seal]

Yeah it's so infuriating that you can't

We need more seeds in Below Zero in general

[eternal garnet]

I have a cyclops seed

[broken badge]

This
I would love to grow more stuff

[bold monolith]

Did you reload afterward?

[winged shuttle]

Like restart the whole game?

[bold monolith]

Just reloading.

[winged shuttle]

I don't understand reload my game or the save?

Or my pc?

[bold monolith]

Reload, not restart.

[winged shuttle]

I reloaded the save yes

Does it matter where I am ingame when I delete the file?

[bold monolith]

What matter is that you remove the file when you aren't in-game. Then load.

You just don't have the teleporter at the end?

[winged shuttle]

Yep

That's the only problem I've run into

[bold monolith]

Ok. And you removed it in slot0000?

[winged shuttle]

Yep

Only slot I've got

[bold monolith]

Loaded the save afterward or were you in the game when you deleted it?

[winged shuttle]

Loaded the save afterwards

[bold monolith]

What's your version?

[winged shuttle]

Latest

[bold monolith]

Give me the number please.

[winged shuttle]

Hang on I'll find it

[eternal garnet]

Esc / troubleshooting

[winged shuttle]

44290

[bold monolith]

Ok, so you load and you still don't have the portal even without the baked file removed.

[winged shuttle]

Yes

The particles are there for a second then they vanish

[bold monolith]

Did you verify the game's files?

[winged shuttle]

I have not

How do I do that

[bold monolith]

Steam / Epic?

[winged shuttle]

Steam

[winged shuttle]

Sweet, doing it now

All done

[bold monolith]

No error?

[winged shuttle]

No errors

100% validated

[bold monolith]

Can you check your CellsCache folder again?

[winged shuttle]

Yea sure, what am I looking for?

[bold monolith]

Still the file in the pinned messages.

[winged shuttle]

Its back now

Delete it again while the games closed?

[bold monolith]

So you saved at some point.

[winged shuttle]

Uh huh...

So should I delete it while the games closed?

[bold monolith]

Did you save after removing it earlier?

[winged shuttle]

Yes I believe so

[bold monolith]

Ok, I'm just checking you don't have a bug with Steam client.

Go back in the main menu at least.

Remove it, then load.

You can also stop the game entirely but it shouldn't be necessary.

[winged shuttle]

Didn't work again

[bold monolith]

Do you only have one Steam library?

[echo aspen]

is there anything dangerous inside the ||mercary 2||

[bold monolith]

No.

[eternal garnet]

getting lost

[winged shuttle]

No

[gleaming lake]

what the new update about

[winged shuttle]

And the files also in the other library, I'll try deleting that too

[bold monolith]

That's what I thought.

[winged shuttle]

Omg it worked

TYSM!

[eternal garnet]

you have two game folders.

I often move game between SSD and HDD. But I use steam to do it, and it leaves no copies

[winged shuttle]

Yea I didn't known it left a copy

Tysm Ignis for all the help that ending was amazing

And thanks @broken badge

[broken badge]

I’m glad Ignis was able to help

@bold monolith tysm for sorting it out

[merry swift]

Can’t believe there’s still no HDR. Been waiting to play this game for so long but refuse until I can view it properly

[echo aspen]

i clicked some button that made my hotbar and compass disappear does anyone know how to make them reappear

nvm i fixed it

[serene sparrow]

i wanna give a chicken nugget to a sea monkey

they seem like they deserve one

[placid dome]

second replay and my favorite part is still here

the framedrops

[hearty silo]

Is there a reason why you sent that in 3 different chats?

[serene sparrow]

idk what an hdr is

[sterile shadow]

It's settings that make the graphics look nicer.

[serene sparrow]

oh

sounds like something that would set my pc on fire

[placid dome]

does anybody know how to windowed fullscreen

it supposedly improves fps but the bottom of my screen is getting cut off

[white abyss]

Me when I complete my seatruck:

I have a fabricator module, sleeper module, 2 storage modules and a docking module

[tawdry mantle]

Which biome is equivalent to ||Lava Lakes|| from Subnautica OG in Subnautica: Below Zero?

[olive coral]

||fabricator caverns||

[merry swift]

Yeah cos I’ve been here about 10 times asking about hdr and never got a response

[merry swift]

It makes colours more colourful and blacks more black. Also makes bright objects literally brighter then its surroundings. With subnautica having so many vibrant colours deep underwater in the dark I really can’t understand why it hasn’t been implemented. Would massively improve the visuals of the game. Plus it costs nearly nothing to your hardware. All done through monitor/tv

[opal peak]

Help! The text that will be revealed when you click the box reveals spoilers, so don't click it if you don't want to. ||After disabling the radio tower with the test override module, Maida never responds to it. What should I do?||

[spice seal]

I think everyone knows how spoiler tags work

[serene sparrow]

yeah

[spice seal]

||I don't know she's supposed to tell you she's on an iceberg 1km east of the island, maybe just go there?||

[opal peak]

ok thanks

[spice seal]

||You might not be able to get in if the message is a trigger for it's door unlocking but I don't think you have many other options ||

[opal peak]

nvm i just check my pda and i got the message. i must have missed it somehow

[spice seal]

Ok

Maybe you accidentally hung up or something

[opal peak]

i think i scanned something else and that muted the message

[hearty silo]

It would be wise to be patient, rather than to spam the same thing in multiple chats, getting yourself in trouble

[tired mauve]

It took me 8 hours to get all 3 fragments for my seatruck. I looked all over the place and could barely find the fragments for it. Right after I got the blueprint, I immediately found 3 more fragments

[mortal wren]

the classic subnautica experience

[warped hinge]

UNACCEPTABLE! 100% durability to 50% durability in ONE ATTACK. ONE!

Stupid Ice Worm

It's incredibly buggy. I have Thumpers if I need them, but I'm not using them at the moment because I noticed the Ice Worm can reach this elevated ledge for some reason so I'm doing some testing

[mortal wren]

I was honestly really disappointed with the ice worms

the devs based a lot of the artwork off of the ice worms, and yet they only spawn in one biome, there's almost no story related to them

you can't scan them, only their remains

they really play a role in almost no part of the story, other than being an obstacle for ||an Al-An part and some ion cubes||

that's just me though ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[warped hinge]

@safe sun, I hate to ping, but this is pretty urgent issue. 50 damage to a Prawn with one attack is completely broken

Not even the Shadow Leviathan can do that

[safe sun]

What do you mean?

[mortal wren]

i mean the shadow levis do like 60 damage per grab nvm they just grab me a lot

[warped hinge]

They do about 25 damage to a Prawn with each grab

[mortal wren]

yeah i know, i edited my message

[warped hinge]

This Ice Worm, with just one attack move(that I couldn't even fully see because it was partially through terrain because I was up on an elevated ledge), took my full integrity Prawn Suit from 100% HP to 50% HP.

@safe sunIs this one attack or two?

Because I can't tell, because it happened so fast and I couldn't observe all of it because it was partially through terrain

[spice seal]

There's no story related to any creatures in Below Zero

[mortal wren]

yeah clearly

[spice seal]

Which is one of the great things about the original

[mortal wren]

visit an alien planet to find out what happened to my sister, found out she ||fell when a site collapsed and that's apparently it||??

met an alien dude, ||put him together and went back to his homeland||, roll credits

I will say, the base building is much better, and I like that interactables can be highlighted now, but that's honestly about it for me

[spice seal]

||I didn't like how Alterra tech can just "synthesize the cure", there's no way the architects could've gotten so advanced without the ability to do stuff like that||

[mortal wren]

yeah that too, like ||how did sam get the cure for the frozen levi? it doesnt go into detail at all abt that||

[opal peak]

||what's the point of activating the bridge? everything you need is on the other side||

[mortal wren]

||I was really disappointed with how the ending biome (crystals) is. In the original game, the lava zone had so many different kinds of creatures you could only find down there, and it was really scary looking. In BZ it's just the shadow levis and some tiny fish down there, and it's not very scary.||

[opal peak]

also how the recipe is so simple

[mortal wren]

||The other side of the bridge is the only entrance to the artic spires, which has a body part for Al-An||

[opal peak]

ohh ok

[spice seal]

||I've heard that in early access there was a Sea Emperor Leviathan in the Lilypads or something. Alterra could've relocated one there to introduce Enzyme 42 to the region like it says they did (but doesn't explain how) in the Sector Zero PDA. It could've been that Sam just hid a device that can collect and concentrate the enzyme and could also be injected into the Leviathan and we'd have to go use it near the emperor to collect some or something||

[mortal wren]

I just don't like how the story doesn't explicitly specify that

it's up to imagination, which i hate

I will say though, the base building is pretty awesome - I could never make anything like this in the original game

(that was 100% made in survival btw)

thanks, i was very bored

lol

[opal peak]

||does maida's storyline end after you get the antidote? just a yes or no answer, im still in the middle of the story||

[mortal wren]

LoganFive is about to send an essay LOL

[spice seal]

||What I don't like about the Crystal and Fabricator caverns is how they just don't seem to make any sense. I really liked how the whole world of Subnautica made sense and that the lava zones weren't just there to look cool, but fit with the rest of the map being an inactive volcano and had specific fauna adapted to them which also made sense. When you scan the crystals the databank entries say that they are formed in extreme temperatures when minerals are present in the water, but that's it. Why was it so hot? Why isn't it hot now? Why was there all this material floating around in the water? The Shadow Leviathans also aren't adapted to the environment they live in in any special way, they're just there to guard stuff, look cool or scary, and they have the same reaper grab attack that they slapped on all the leviathans they could in this game. The shadows are massive, they must eat a lot, but we have no clue what it is and all there is in the cave is rock punchers and small fish. It doesn't say they go anywhere else to hunt. The Sea Dragon Leviathans in the original were huge, and they had to eat whole reapers by hunting and trapping them in the lava zones, and they have unique attacks. The Ghost Leviathans didn't really have any special eating related things, pda says they just eat plankton and stuff, but they had a fully fleshed out life cycle that fits with the map perfectly (they needed Leviathans you had to get past to get into the Lost River, and big leviathans to stop you from finding the edge of the map out in the void, and they did so well for each role because their lifecycle involves them spreading out and moving to larger open areas as they grow.|| I don't know why I felt the need to write all of this, I've just been kinda disappointed in Below Zero's leviathans for a while and now I have a chance to talk about it.

[mortal wren]

called it

i watched you type that the entire time, good job
im reading it now

[spice seal]

The base building is epic though

Shame we can't get the standing pictures for desks and stuff in creative though

I think it's because of there's no story in creative but I don't know why the little pictures are part of the story or why there's no story in creative in the first place

[mortal wren]

I agree with this a lot, ||the whole crystal area in general feels out of place, especially seeing as they are "formed in hot temperatures" yet it's not hot at all anymore and there's no explanation for the dramatic shift. the shadow levis are cool and all but they literally just don't fit at all, like you said, and the animation feels lackluster||

||there's no life cycle for the shadow leviathans either, they're just unknown||

[spice seal]

They aren't even scary once you have the ||PDS and afterburner anyway, because you can just shock em when they grab you and get away with the afterburner afterwards||

Man I need to just make a reddit post about all this stuff or something instead of just shoving walls of text into discord

[mortal wren]

||they're literally just babies, one click of a button and they leave you alone for the next two minutes, and when they come back you just press it again. at least in SN you had to actually be careful how loud the cyclops was near the sea dragons, and if you had no backup plan you'd be fried||

[opal peak]

yeah, i actually felt fear near the sea dragons

the SL's... not so much

[mortal wren]

it's just like

the cyclops had no shock ability, it had a shield and a silencer

both of which drained power, so you couldn't just have them on constantly

but you had to have them on near the dragons, else you'd be screwed, so there was some skill in timing when to turn stuff on and off

with the shock it's just click and that's it

and it takes almost no power either

[spice seal]

It's weird how devs that didn't like weapons so much that they never included a gun and probably took the stasis rifle out of Below Zero because people killed stuff with them so much, but the only method of safely traveling through later game biomes is just to shock the heck out of any fish when they get close to you

[mortal wren]

iirc the cyclops didn't have torpedo support, which means it quite literally had no weapons

it was based around stealth, you had to be careful or you would be attacked

[spice seal]

The torpedoes were barely offensive anyway, the gas ones damaged stuff but the vortex ones just kinda trapped things

[mortal wren]

regardless, point is that the cyclops literally didn't have any weaponry, stealth was the main goal

whereas with the seatruck it's just "shock your opponents and run"

and it's really incredibly stupid that you can charge up the ability when literally anything will leave you alone if you just click instead of charge

[broken badge]

Idk that I’d call it weird, because stasis let you just sit there and flog a leviathan with a thermoblade for minutes at a time. You can still use a prawn, tho I’ve never understood why anyone would bother.

While the perimeter defense system is still a shock, it’s nonlethal, still a means of defense not offensive weaponry

[mortal wren]

it just seems weird that you can simply shock any creature in your way, it really devalues the scare that the original game had

I would find the shadow leviathans much scarier and try harder to avoid them if I didn't have a button in my toolbar that gets them to go away with one single click, without dealing any damage to me

[broken badge]

I don’t play the game to be scared so it doesn’t bother me
I play it to enjoy the story

[safe sun]

....so don't use it? After my first full playthrough I no longer touch the PDS.

[spice seal]

fair enough

[broken badge]

Very good point Tuna. You’re never made to use all the things offered in a game

[mortal wren]

yeah that's fair

although one thing still confuses me- what's the point of charging the PDS up? it seems to burn up more power for the same goal, just a larger radius (which almost never matters anyways)

seeing as every creature will bug off with just a single click

[spice seal]

Maybe so you can't empty your whole vehicle's power on something instantly and kill it

[mortal wren]

I don't mean why is there a limit to charging it up, I meant what's the purpose of charging it up to begin with?

[jade coral]

hey all i have a question. does anyone know the cords of the drop pod?

[spice seal]

I'm pretty sure it spawns in different locations doesn't it?

[jade coral]

i have no clue

but if it does then there goes my marker

[mortal wren]

LP5 in SN does, but I think the drop pod stays consistent

Because in SN you start in the life pod, but in BZ you don't

[spice seal]

I'm still pretty sure I've seen it more than one location, like there's a couple set locations it will choose from at least

[mortal wren]

im not sure

[jade coral]

well crap then. i kinda wish i could get the cords info my self but idk how on switch

[spice seal]

What do you need it for?

[jade coral]

im using a subnautica map and i want to the drop pod as a some type of 0,0 so i know atleast a general idea on where to head

so let say the delta camp is south of the drop pod i would know that but since i dont where the drop pod is in the map idk how to find anything

[broken badge]

There more than one location for drop pod, I’ve confirmed it

Two at least

Not sure if there’s more than two

[jade coral]

ok so uh is there any way to get cord info on switch?

[broken badge]

Nope, not on consoles

Best thing is to use a landmark in the game, something fixed in position

[jade coral]

yeah i guess i should make tons of beacons

[broken badge]

And get the compass to note where things are using it

Beacons help, I still am using them to just get things down memory wise for the map

[jade coral]

yeah i dont have the best of memory so trying to remeber where something is from the compass is almost impossible for me

but yeah if cords wont help beacons will

now do anyone suggest any good spots to make a base

i already have one near my droppod but i plan on relocating it

[spice seal]

Early game I've heard the best spot is somewhere near where the floating tech site is above the regular twisty bridges

And that's also where I had my main base

[jade coral]

the one with the broken wire under water?

[spice seal]

Yeah

[mortal wren]

I'm looking at decompiled game code right now in an attempt to see if there's any possible lists of coordinates for the drop pod spawn, although knowing personally how unity works, i doubt i'm going to find much

that and code from the first game is also still lingering around in here, which is making it slightly difficult

[jade coral]

wow cool if you find anything mind pinging me?

[mortal wren]

yeah i can, like i said though i doubt im going to find much

[jade coral]

well either way any info is good info

[mortal wren]

i found something

although the issue, it's not giving me exact coordinates

[spice seal]

Big brain hackerman

[mortal wren]

it's what happens when i happen to have a few years of experience in the same engine subnautica is made in ¯_(ツ)_/¯

i found the data inside of the LifepodDrop class that is responsible for determining where the pod goes (I think)

the issue is, it's not giving me coordinates - they're likely defined inside of unity's inspector, not the actual game code

[jade coral]

hm oh well but that seems cool. but ill just have to use tons of beacons and put them everywhere

[mortal wren]

chad approach

[jade coral]

you gotta do what you gotta do

this mostly cause i cant remember crap lol

[mortal wren]

yo same