below-zero-chat

[winged osprey]

With perimeter defense on your deatruck they will become harmless

[carmine bobcat]

i hate my life now

[alpine badge]

So zap some leviathan

[quaint cloud]

I just need to get to it its 200m away with a shadow on my tail

[next mantle]

if you got permeter defense and know how to use it, grabby leviathans are a nonconcern

and you literally get it for free in margie's base

[safe sun]

That's exactly why I stopped using the PDS.

[alpine badge]

PDS?

[next mantle]

are you that dense XD

what were we talking about

[alpine badge]

what does PDA stand for

[carmine bobcat]

I hate my life rn because what i did with mah seatruck

[alpine badge]

Personal Display of Affection?

[safe sun]

Perimeter Defense System.

[alpine badge]

Ooh

[safe sun]

lol

[next mantle]

and pda is personal digitaal assistant

[alpine badge]

Argh

[next mantle]

i bet you also started playing hardcore mode eh?

[alpine badge]

I should know this

[safe sun]

My next playthrough will be hardcore, yes.

[next mantle]

Good luck with getting lost in a random cave

[alpine badge]

Summer has turned my brain into putty

[quaint cloud]

Its stuck

[alpine badge]

RIP Sea Trucko

[quaint cloud]

Why is the shadow stuck a rip sea truck moment

[alpine badge]

It's stuck

[next mantle]

the worst thing is when you panik inside some cave when you dont yet haave BIG OXY TANK

[alpine badge]

How will u get it out

[alpine badge]

oXyGeN

[quaint cloud]

Why

[alpine badge]

I think it's funny how the PDA's scream at you when you're drowning

OxYgEn

[quaint cloud]

Why Does it keep editing that message

[alpine badge]

Idk

[quaint cloud]

There is 2 shadows?????

[delicate fossil]

Summer is great

[quaint cloud]

You guys are in summer

[delicate fossil]

It's warm again and the weather is nice

[quaint cloud]

I am not in summer yet

[true venture]

It’s unbelievably hot

[quaint cloud]

Its still spring for me

[delicate fossil]

Well it's spring still, but it's June and that's pretty much summer for me

[true venture]

True

[quaint cloud]

Yeah

[true venture]

Also there’s been like a huge heat week

[quaint cloud]

School is lame

[true venture]

20 degrees +

Celsius

[quaint cloud]

... That's hot

[true venture]

I don’t even have ac so i hate it

[quaint cloud]

Just got the prawn suit

[uneven cliff]

any reason why this wouldn't connect? There's nothing on the wall in the multipurpose room where the connection would go

[quaint cloud]

Bz is glitchy

[true venture]

Maybe too shallow

[uneven cliff]

it lets me build it even above that level, so not too shallow

[true venture]

Hmmm

[quaint cloud]

Why didn't i get the prawn before

Its epic

[true venture]

1v1 time boisssss

[quaint cloud]

With what

[true venture]

Leviathans

Go stab the chelicerete

And scan it

[next mantle]

You can build above water tho

[true venture]

Is there like a ladder on the inside?

[uneven cliff]

now I'm trying to deconstruct the entrance to the multipurpose room, and it tells me it can't because storage container is not empty. Can it be the storage in the room, near the entrance?

[next mantle]

wot

[uneven cliff]

no

[next mantle]

sometimes if you put storages between two rooms, both will think it belongs to them

[true venture]

Yh it probably is

[lyric halo]

Cyclops or sea truck

[next mantle]

or close to that

[true venture]

Sea truck anyday

[uneven cliff]

oh so maybe for the same reason it won't connect with the room... lockers a bit too close to where the connection would be, maybe

[next mantle]

stuff near walls block a lot of buildings tho

yeet the lockers

[true venture]

Probably

Remove them

[uneven cliff]

so annoying to have to manually empty them and put the stuff in new lockers

[next mantle]

it happens

i bet you aint got as full lockers as mine

[uneven cliff]

no but my locker is way longer than yours 😉

kidding

[next mantle]

XD

or is it?

[uneven cliff]

I have a locker full of salt which I never use 😦

is there anything else to do with the salt, other than cooking?

[clever karma]

i put my first foot in the arctic spires and already hear an ice worm

[next mantle]

make salted fish and make snow into water pills

[clever karma]

yep, its gonna be fun to build a base here

[next mantle]

i also have a locker full of salt

very full of salt

[uneven cliff]

okay I moved the lockers and was able to connect the moonpool to the room

[next mantle]

cool

have fun moonpoolin

[clever karma]

yikes, an ice worm appeared in front of me, im going to assume it was eating a snowstalker since im not using a vehicle

[next mantle]

you are walking too loudly

[clever karma]

another one? thank god they didnt attack

[next mantle]

theyll get cha

eventually

[next mantle]

ya tried mods?

[clever karma]

ok now im not running and they keep appearing xd

[carmine bobcat]

can someone help me cure my stress

[broken badge]

Salt is used in making polyaniline

[uneven cliff]

no, should I?

[carmine bobcat]

idk

[uneven cliff]

why is your name Japan, btw?

have you been to Japan?

[next mantle]

oh yeah that

[next mantle]

its fun

See, this is my salt

[carmine bobcat]

uh no, i only did that is because japan is my favorite country.

[uneven cliff]

I lived in Japan...

[carmine bobcat]

I mean, its because the robot resturant.

And, the other places

[next mantle]

amusing

[uneven cliff]

that's less salt than I expected.. are you doing something with mods and salt?

[clever karma]

man... im the worst gamer ever, i lost to hipotermia

[carmine bobcat]

no i am

this is what i named my seatruck

now i am going to try to upload that to the internet

but how tho

[next mantle]

well yes, I got the ingots mod. See the weird titanium ingots? thats salt ingots, 10 salt per

[clever karma]

i dont understand why i died, i built a large room and an entrance, but it didnt get to the ground, why?

[carmine bobcat]

I do not understand.

[carmine bobcat]

Thats weird.

[next mantle]

because why make a million lockers when you can just get a mod that lets you stack/unstack 10 stuff into one stuff

and then you can stack 10 ingots into a stack of ingots

[vernal sun]

Hey guys, i've found this below zero way shorter than subnautica OG, what do you think ?

[next mantle]

whatdya mean

[vernal sun]

not a lot of leviathans, alien sanctuaries and relics are easy to find...

[next mantle]

idk maan

[vernal sun]

i thought the big one in the ice would wake up or something

[next mantle]

seems pretty long to me, bunch of storylines, somewhat less wandering around aimlessly

[vernal sun]

my sister died under a rock, ok...

[next mantle]

you sound like a speedrunner

[vernal sun]

nah man i spent like 48 hours on belox zero until now for one game

[carmine bobcat]

guys

[next mantle]

ok

[carmine bobcat]

i think the next subnautica is gonna be, robin with alan in alan's world, and theres co-op

[vernal sun]

i made the 1st one with no spoiler before, and it was intense

[next mantle]

yeah me too

and i took longer than 48

[delicate fossil]

Why is your titanium ingots red?

[vernal sun]

i expected some harder things for this new one, but everything seems easier

yeah i spent 80 hours on the 1st one i think

[next mantle]

Its a mod, and thats not titanium, shoulda read more of my messages

thats salt. 10x salt

[delicate fossil]

Ahh nice

[shadow fog]

I was a little put out yesterday what do you mean pipe isn't recyclable I kicked the Blasted machine for good measure

[delicate fossil]

On PC is it still possible to play the old story of the game?

[next mantle]

maybe?

[delicate fossil]

Like an earlier build

[next mantle]

you actually make pipes?

[clever karma]

that would be kind of out of the subnautica logic, it is supposed to be a survival game, and i dont really see how a co-op

[vernal sun]

a co op mode would be sick and completely legit for a survival

one go get food while the other one search for titanium...

[surreal lantern]

any chance there is a way to get a 3d map from the seatruck and I'm being dense and not seeing it? or do I really have to scan everything with the seaglide

[vernal sun]

build a sick base for 2 people

[shadow fog]

I often wish that I could just replace the starvation with need food badly

[surreal lantern]

I miss the seamoth ;-;

[hasty narwhal]

https://youtu.be/d8xKt1zX9RM

[surreal lantern]

spoily?

[hasty narwhal]

Nah

Though if you want the headlines

[surreal lantern]

he usually isn't too bad but S1 is like my fav game

so I'm tryna avoid all spoils for s2

[hasty narwhal]

"Subnautica, but smaller/more"

"Put autosave into your games"

"Doesn't make sense how Warmth only becomes a factor while above-ground"

"...is rubbing up against the title of "standalone expansion" so closely that "standalone expansion" should probably complain to human resources."

[surreal lantern]

so no 3d map on anything but seaglide then?

[hasty narwhal]

Ice worm and snowspeeder section is "... more a gimmicky interlude than an integral new mechanic"

[surreal lantern]

i'm at a point where I have no active objectives, and so naturally my instinct is to try and explore but it pains me to consider looking for cracks with just the seaglide

[next mantle]

snowspeeder is bad anyway

also i dont watch that nerd

[next mantle]

theres a mod for map but its not 3d

[hasty narwhal]

Was four hours into his game when it crashed and he lost all data due to a lack of autosave.

[carmine bobcat]

mmmm papitas

[surreal lantern]

rip

[next mantle]

wait theres no autosave in the game?

[carmine bobcat]

ye

[next mantle]

huh

[vale briar]

Does anyone have a problem with achievements on ps4

[carmine bobcat]

theres no autosave

i think theres a mod of autosave

[hasty narwhal]

Once he got back to where he was in the game with a rudimentary base, he managed to "confirm just how short Below Zero is, 'cos there'd only been about a half-hour of plot left before an ending that felt somehow both overly drawn-out and anticlimactic."

[next mantle]

bah i played the game before it even released

[surreal lantern]

I waited until like two days ago

glad I did from the sounds of it

[hasty narwhal]

Didn't the original Subnautica have some sort of rudimentary autosave, tho? Where it would save you game each time you entered your lifepod or one of your seabases?

[next mantle]

Maybe

[next mantle]

If you like paying more... sure. It was cheaper before release

[vapid kestrel]

Nope

[surreal lantern]

alright- I suppose if I knew the exact date they planned on changing the price I would have waited until just before then

[hasty narwhal]

Really? Huh. Mandela effect

[surreal lantern]

but I like having an at least mostly finished game

[vapid kestrel]

They announced the increase back in December

[latent brook]

how do i get more music for the jukebox

[surreal lantern]

well in that case they got my extra $10 and thats what I get for not paying more attention to updates

[hasty narwhal]

At the very least, the confirmation of this practically being a standalone expansion means that my previous gripes about the game have been vindicated, to some degree.

[pure niche]

Does anyone know what to do after I search the Phi Robotics Center

[broken badge]

What is “standalone expression” anyway

[olive coral]

find it

[olive coral]

Find the other one

[carmine bobcat]

Why do I need to go to artic spires? What to do there? I don't understand, all I've done there is go to the ice worm graveyard and go back to my base.

[broken badge]

Autosave would be a bad idea for the Subnautica games

[vivid gorge]

I think they mean that the game is a stand-alone expansion to the Subnautica series?

Not sure.

[olive coral]

If you went to the iceworm graveyard then you were close to the important thing there

[broken badge]

Yeah idk, it was originally planned as DLC I think, but they ended up making a standalone game (though if you have played the original I think it’s better)

[vivid gorge]

Yep, it was a dlc at first

[carmine bobcat]

I'll go back and see what's there

[broken badge]

At some point you end up getting a marker for the area but not until you’re almost done iirc

[olive coral]

If the first game had bz's features I would play it a lot more

[broken badge]

They improved on a lot of “pain points” the first game had

[olive coral]

Why not just add them to the first one

[broken badge]

It’s not always that easy to just add things to an older game

Anytime you mess with code you run the risk of screwing things up

[olive coral]

That's why play testing is a thing

[broken badge]

But who knows maybe we’ll see a few things happen like fabricator menus, idk. Or pinning recipes. Some stuff would be nice to see

[hasty narwhal]

That was actually one of my main gripes with BZ that turned me off it, initially.

[olive coral]

Why?

[hasty narwhal]

The fact that a lot of basic, quality of life improvements introduced in BZ wouldn't be backported to original.

[olive coral]

But bz is still good

[hasty narwhal]

Perhaps, though I wouldn't want it to permanently sour my experiences with the base game.

Or at the very least, devolve any future playthroughs into "God, I wish (BZ QOL feature) was in this."

I still remember that YT comment argument I had in that Early Access trailer with the Large MP room glass ceilings and the jukebox.

[carmine bobcat]

hi

[hasty narwhal]

Apparently, it's a heinous crime to want some basic additions and features that would work well in the base game be backported

All because "ITS A SEEE-QUALLLL!!!!"

[broken badge]

It’s not a crime to want BZ features in the original, it’s just not simple to add them

[trail junco]

its actually a sea-qual

[carmine bobcat]

Lol

[broken badge]

😂

Also kinda depends on what features. Not gonna see a jukebox I’m guessing but who knows

[unkempt bronze]

I both despise and somewhat enjoy you for that pun

Large rooms in OG would be cool and all, but I don't think it's necessarily needed

[broken badge]

For example the Switch version of Subnautica has the new fabricator style organization, so maybe that’ll come to other platforms eventually

I really didn’t like it at first but it’s grown on me

[unkempt bronze]

Don't remind me about the switch port for now... T_T

[broken badge]

I haven’t played the og much but I’ve played BZ some, had some crashed that’s kinda rough, but they’re working on it

[unkempt bronze]

I know the (hopeful) fix is in the works but I'm still sad

Crashes are actually being tolerable for me now

[calm olive]

|| so I've been to the green house and got the pdas but I dont know what to do now any tips no spoilers please ||

[broken badge]

I know people have had some rough times with og Subnautica on Switch tho😔

[unkempt bronze]

I'm one of those people

[broken badge]

You need to explore the glacial basin

[calm olive]

?

I dont know what that is

[broken badge]

Did you scan the world map when you were at Delta?

[unkempt bronze]

I somehow beat BZ in 4 hours, meaning I have the permission to just do what I want in terms of base construction

[calm olive]

Yep I did

[carmine bobcat]

LOL?

[broken badge]

Ok the part of the map that’s the northern stuff that’s where you’ll need to go

[carmine bobcat]

I'm 11 hours in and I'm in the same situation as @calm olive

[unkempt bronze]

Found a beautiful iceberg across from Delta, perfect spot for a large base

[calm olive]

Oh ok thank you very much

[broken badge]

Np

[carmine bobcat]

I've been to the ||fabricator cave||

[broken badge]

Make sure you’ve gone to Phi Robotics

You’ll want to have explored there first

[carmine bobcat]

is this what you're talking about as glacial basin?

also dont know what phi robotics is

[broken badge]

I’m not sure about all the names, idk if that is what’s called the arctic spires but thats part of what I meant you should aim to explore
Phi robotics is the part to the west

[carmine bobcat]

Oh

I tried going there I went thru a small cave and surfaced somewhere, got lost after and decided to come back home

[next current]

That's Outpost Zero.

[broken badge]

You see a lot jellyfish when you get near the Phi robotics landing area

[carmine bobcat]

saw that, went through the cave that they were infront of

[broken badge]

But would you say that’s part of the glacial basin or not?

[carmine bobcat]

after i went in that cave I surfaced somewhere, got lost and came back!

then I went to go get nickle, came back, upgraded depth, went to ||fabricator caves and scanned the organs|| and now I'm back and dont know what to do

[lost moss]

Glacial basin is the area south from the bridge. To the north are arctic spires.

[delicate fossil]

|| Outpost zero must've been pretty cool before it was destroyed ||

[next current]

No, it's in its own separate area.

[carmine bobcat]

spoiler tags! ! 1

[broken badge]

Ok

[surreal lantern]

so once the little + sign on a beacon/signal/etc is no longer there, that means that area has been sufficiently explored?

[hasty rune]

so where exactly is the ||ice worm testing area||?

[delicate fossil]

I wonder why all of Alterra's buildings are damaged or destroyed, but their radio tower is working just fine. I don't think this is actually a spoiler.

[carmine bobcat]

what the.

[next current]

Well, ||Omega Lab and the Phi Excavation Site was sabotaged and damaged intentionally.||

[broken badge]

Most species will breed if you have at least two of them

So if you left awhile and came back, that can happen

[hasty rune]

i do love it when i get completely ignored

[broken badge]

Idk what you mean

[hasty rune]

you dont?

[next current]

Mating season is coming around again, ehh.

[clever karma]

Does a moonpool work out of water? Because of the base I have in the arctic spires and in case i want to charge my prawn suit, does it work?

[vivid gorge]

Out of bounds

[next current]

Yes, but I dont recommend it.

[clever karma]

Ok, thanks

[wheat berry]

What do you guys think of the voiced protagonist

[hasty rune]

yeah ik but how do people know how to get there without cheats? there are no guides on the internet

[delicate fossil]

What about || Outpost Zero and Phi Robotics || they are really damaged.

[wheat berry]

I like it, but I think she says too much tbh. It's nice to hear her comment on the biomes

[vivid gorge]

Walk there

[broken badge]

I’ve never seen nor heard about that place

[next current]

Probably due to the meteor storm.

[hasty rune]

obv but the ||thundraVoid|| is huge, i wanna know which side of the world should i walk towards

[hasty rune]

its kind of an og thing as it was way more exposed back then

[next current]

What? The Ice Worm Debug Area?

[broken badge]

You mean early access thing?

[broken badge]

I guess so, whatever is in the picture

[hasty rune]

yes

[next current]

Well yeah, it's an out of bounds area.

[hasty rune]

it was used by the devs to make test the ||ice worm|| animations but then, instead of removing it, they just tossed it far outside the map and people still managed to get to it without cheats, i wanna recreate that

[next current]

You can get to it in the Prawn Suit.

[hasty rune]

bruh, ik how to get to it, idk where it is

[delicate fossil]

So Alterra left shortly before Robin arrived right?

[hasty narwhal]

Fair cop

[forest wolf]

k thanks

[next current]

The main crew left after the ||death of Sam and Paravan. Alexis was sent down to investigate the damage at the Omega Lab and Phi Excavation.||

[winged osprey]

I was wondering... If we put eggs in ventgarden, are the fish going to stay in it? Because it could be a fun thing... 👀

[winged osprey]

Oh nice. It explain a lot of things to me

But who's alexis already?

[delicate fossil]

Ok thanks

[latent brook]

so i got this signal called signal-pilot-unknown position and i was wondering how dangerous it is to go there

[next current]

The investigator.

[winged osprey]

Only shark squids.

[delicate fossil]

@next current have you played the older story at all?

[latent brook]

so can i go in my seatruck

[next current]

Mhm...

[wheat berry]

Yes or no?

[delicate fossil]

How was that one? I've only read small bits of what happened in that version

[winged osprey]

Yes absolutely

[velvet karma]

I reccomend going in the seatruck, yeah

[hasty rune]

worse than this one

[latent brook]

with just the 150 meters?

[winged osprey]

If i remember well i think it's enough

[soft monolith]

I could swim down with rebreather and oxygen plants

[next current]

It was interesting. Do you have the steam version of BZ?

[hasty rune]

there werent many differences except robin working for and being okay with alterra

[delicate fossil]

@next current no but I plan to get it at some point.

[vivid gorge]

Well phi is underground isn’t it?

[hasty rune]

you can install older versions of the game if you get it through steam

[next current]

When you do, you can play the older story of BZ.

[delicate fossil]

I kinda thought the older story was interesting because you interacted with npcs more and you weren't just alone on the planet

[hasty rune]

you were

[carmine bobcat]

so can someone help

[delicate fossil]

@next current @hasty rune thanks for letting me know. I'll definitely have to check that out

It would be really nice to see all the stuff that was cut from the final release

[hasty rune]

np but you will get bored pretty quickly ||there is a cut biome tho 👀 ||

[soft monolith]

What are you trying to do?

[hasty rune]

i might have found where ||the testing area is||

[carmine bobcat]

ok so ||I went to fabricator cave, scanned organs and skeleton, went to marguerities green house|| idk what to do next

[soft monolith]

did you get all of AL-EN's parts?

[carmine bobcat]

only the ||skeleton and organs||

[winged osprey]

Oh my god. I just realize Marguerite is the last survivor of the degasi. And we are still on the same planet. Only the sector is different.

[vivid gorge]

Yeah..

[carmine bobcat]

yeah

[hasty rune]

id make a captain obvious joke but that would be rude

[carmine bobcat]

can anyone help me I'm just stuck idk what to do

[winged osprey]

I know it should be obvious for most of you but i didn't played subnautica for years between subnautica and below zero.

[soft monolith]

I think you need to go to artic spires for the last part

[carmine bobcat]

me neither but wasnt it in the trailer that its the same planet just a different sector

[carmine bobcat]

dont I need to go to like phi robotics or something

[winged osprey]

If you didn't you also have to do that

[soft monolith]

its near by over the bridge

[carmine bobcat]

dont know what a bridge is!

[winged osprey]

And i don't want to spoil but... In phi, you'll find a map. Explore what's on it. It's necessary for the plot.

Like really important

[carmine bobcat]

I can't get to phi

literally impossible for me

[soft monolith]

howcome, it's not too hard

[winged osprey]

Why?

Nothing stop you from going to phi

No monsters

[hasty rune]

yeah but the last body part is heavily guarded

[winged osprey]

Just have to go on the ground and walk.

[carmine bobcat]

i go into the jellyfish cave and then I surface and then I look for it for hours next to some glowy cave and i still cant find it

[soft monolith]

no need to go in cave there is a dock

[carmine bobcat]

what

fr tell me im rextarded rn oh my god

time to revisit i guess.

[hasty rune]

||i love the arctic spires part of the game, its literally like a bossfight but its unique as you cant kill the boss and have to doge his attacks||

[winged osprey]

||i was about to said the same. The gameplay made by this leviathan is awesome||

[soft monolith]

You have the altera map?

[carmine bobcat]

yeah

[soft monolith]

there is an inlet on the left

this is bridge and dock

[winged osprey]

|| i agree about iceworm, Like, you can't see it at all. You can't feel safe exept in really few places or with the stuff for it.
You kinda go at full speed for you life. And estethically the movements of the worm are so smooth
Best leviathan so far. ||

[hasty rune]

||indeed, it seems hard but i've never actually gotten hit but there were some close calls, definitely one of my favourite parts of the game, if not the favourite, its perfect||

[hasty rune]

||literally that, if you get into games like i do, the way your heart starts beating when you are coming in and when you hear the worm digging makes that part of the game so special as no other game can do that to me, just like the crash zone feeling but even better||

||ooo, black boxes||

[carmine bobcat]

how do you type spoiler

so its black like that

[winged osprey]

Maybe crash site was our first time facing a leviathan that might come from nowere.
And then we have ghost that was almsot the same but in ghost, sea dragon that was almost the same with dragon... And we get used to see a big fish swimming towards us.
But that new thing, was completely different. And we get back the feelings we forgot. It surprised us again.

[next current]

||<--- On both sides of your message, no spaces in between them.

||example 1

example 2||

[soft monolith]

or /spoiler

[winged osprey]

But if i understood well, robin is just on the planet because she decide to investigate. She is not sent by xenoworks or anything like that?

She just wanted to investigate on her own.

[soft monolith]

Yes, I think she didn't think Sam could be so negligent

[hasty rune]

exactly

i have, of course, completely uncovered every little corner of the lore, so ask me if you wanna know anything

[unkempt bronze]

Sam wasn't negligent, but I won't go into much more detail because spoilers

[hasty rune]

for example: she wanted to investigate the death of her sister, the reason why she has the xenoworks pda is because she refused to get an alterra pda after alterra bought xenoworks as she doesnt like/trust alterra

[winged osprey]

Well, she was a bit negligent tho. I mean... ||Really, she put the detonator at the entrance and killed parvan like this. To me it'"s negligent||

[unkempt bronze]

||she told him to stay back, he didn't listen||

[winged osprey]

Wait i didn't even't notice we didn't had an alterran pda. 😯

[hasty rune]

i still havent come to the part of the game where that gets revealed and i clicked on the box

[unkempt bronze]

The Xenoworx PDA has a different voice than the Alterra PDA

[hasty rune]

xenoworks is clearly an indian company

[winged osprey]

||Still, she shouldn't put a detonator at the entrance ||

[hasty rune]

okay, well, thats all, i gotta sleep now, gn

[winged osprey]

Gn

I gotta sleep too

[graceful fulcrum]

Look what I found by accident, I am like in my prawn suit..... help me

[winged osprey]

Mmmh

Good luck

If it's not too late

[graceful fulcrum]

My controller vibrated so i turned just in time to miss it hit me

[winged osprey]

This leviathan is just so cool

[graceful fulcrum]

It's cool but I don't have sound on cause my parents are watching their show and I don't want to bother them so I relay on my controller and I don't now how to get back

Also I'm lost and need help getting back to my seatruck

[carmine bobcat]

|| ive looked in all the penguin caves SE of the leviathan cave for the antidote and havnt found it so is it obvious in the cave or is it more hidden||

[sterile shadow]

Here's a guide on how to find it
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hqM-Gd5ypQ||

[broken badge]

I found the little map to be useless, I had to look it up on a YouTube video

For that part anyway. Wasn’t anything where the map indicated so I feel your pain

[sterile shadow]

shadow, any word on if we're ever getting !wiki back?

[broken badge]

People spammed it. That’s why it got removed. So blame the spammers

[sterile shadow]

I understand that part, but do you think it's likely we'll never get it back because people will always be prone to spam it?

[broken badge]

I don’t know if it’ll be brought back. Some servers have a bot section where something like that would go, but things are kinda busy rn with the team working on some serious bugs and such so it’s not really a priority you could say

[sterile shadow]

Ahh, alright. Thank you 💔

[broken badge]

I wouldn’t say it’s ruled out, but probably not immediate future sort of thing

[sterile shadow]

There's still hooope 😢

[broken badge]

You can post a wiki link I think. But people were spamming it instead of just reading the wiki, which defeats the purpose of there being a wiki ya know

[sterile shadow]

Yeah, I still do that. Just made it a bit easier than opening a browser window every time xD

[broken badge]

I keep a few tabs like the Subnautica map and the wiki open on my iPad just for posting stuff like those here😂

[sterile shadow]

I have like OCD tendencies and so I like having as little open as possible 💀

[carmine bobcat]

When the AL-AN is dead.

[broken badge]

That’s not what happens

[sterile shadow]

Are you stuck at a glitch? Or did ya just not ||make his body|| yet?

[broken badge]

I’ve heard there is a bug

[carmine bobcat]

no no

im in creative

[olive coral]

The seatruck storage module doesent really have a lot of storage in it

[sterile shadow]

yeah ive seen it happen to 2-3 people 😳

[sterile shadow]

ahhh i c i c

[carmine bobcat]

yea i got bugged for the first time

that i was walking underwater

and i dont understand WHY

and idk how it happend

[sterile shadow]

Oh that's the part of the game where u turn into Aquaman

[carmine bobcat]

idk how it works

[carmine bobcat]

omg im ||aquaman||

[next current]

Trust me, it's better than what it had when it first was added.

[broken badge]

You have to either kill yourself or use a console command like “warpforward 1” to fix the walking underwater bug

I actually fell thru the bottom of my seatruck and got stuck with the walking underwater bug the other day

[echo locust]

Wait walking underwater is back?

swimmingless might yet again be possible

[olive coral]

The seatruck fabricator is so useful mining missions would take 3x as long without it

[next current]

It's been back for a quite some time iirc.

[carmine bobcat]

||curing the leviathan is the end of sams side of the story right?||

[olive coral]

Yes

[carmine bobcat]

ok

||then going with alan to his planet is the last story to do right||

[sterile shadow]

Yes. The only other things you can do is finish ||Marguerit's|| storyline or collect all of the ||Alien Artifacts||- but those are optional, just like ||Sam's|| storyline is.

[carmine bobcat]

marguerits stroyline isnt the same one as sams?

[sterile shadow]

It is not.

[spark pike]

that’s what i find dumb how her storyline is optional cause u go there for sam but her story is so dumb

[carmine bobcat]

wait how do i do marguots then

[sterile shadow]

Meh, I don't necessarily disagree, but it could be worse. 🤷‍♂️

[spark pike]

delta station

[carmine bobcat]

because all shes done is help me find sam

[spark pike]

i wish there was more with sam cause that’s why we went to planet 4546b in the first place

[sterile shadow]

1. You meet her for the first time at ||Delta Station||. 2. You find her base near the ||Pilot's Last Known Location signal||. 3. You use the ||Test Override Module on the Communications Tower||. 4. You meet her at her ||Greenhouse||. End of storyline.

[olive coral]

If you ever need a bunch of quartz, go to the tree spires because there is so much

[carmine bobcat]

oh

okay ive done that then

[olive coral]

5 you can go back to her base and scan stuff

[sterile shadow]

you can do that for sure, it's not part of her storyline though lol

[carmine bobcat]

honestly below zeros story was worse than the first game

alot less anticipation and mystery

[spark pike]

it’s cause u go there for your sister but then she has the worst story out of the 3

[olive coral]

Marguerit has the best story imo

[broken badge]

BZ is a very different sort of game in terms of style than the first, but I certainly don’t think it’s bad. Quite the opposite, I think it’s an excellent game

[atomic glade]

how do i prevent being scared while building a base near chelicerates

[surreal lantern]

chill pill

[spark pike]

kill the choclatechates

[atomic glade]

no

I want to have an observatory

[spark pike]

i just kept my eye on them and built

[surreal lantern]

guys any way I could get a hint as to what to do next while avoiding massive spoils? I'm at a spot where all my locations have been explored and I'm getting tired of just roaming around waiting for progress..

[spark pike]

how bout building stuff

[atomic glade]

exploring land?

[spark pike]

u got all your modules and upgrades

[surreal lantern]

yeah I've got truck depth mk3

but nowhere to make use of it lol

[carmine bobcat]

I crafted the spy pengling and now I'm at phi robotics

[spark pike]

where are u in the story

[carmine bobcat]

where do I go and what do I use the pengling for

[surreal lantern]

I've done a lot of land exploration and found what I think is to be found there...

[spark pike]

there’s little tunnels that it goes into

[carmine bobcat]

where can I find that

[royal pasture]

Guys just beat the ender dragon on creative

[spark pike]

idk where it’s at exactly i watched a youtube video

[carmine bobcat]

mind linking me that

actually

i think i found it

nah it was just a small quartz cave

pingas

[hollow belfry]

wow, I managed to swim inside my dry base just by repeatedly air bladder jumping through a moonpool

[surreal tusk]

Good Job ig...

[hollow belfry]

it's somewhat consistent

[restive ledge]

Where should I go to discuss story spoilers?

[vernal isle]

Just put Spoiler marks on it

[carmine bobcat]

Here but put || at the start and the end of a spoiler

[vernal isle]

Like ||this||

[carmine bobcat]

|| two before this text and two at the end || "||"

[restive ledge]

End story spoiler || so the ending seems like sequel bait and I was thinking. The architects don't seem like swimmers so what if instead of only water there is also flying? Like flying has the same 3rd dimension of movement no different than water so the gameplay should be similar. You could have tons of animals floating/flying around. Instead of depth modules you could have like "gravity modules" That let's you go up into the outer atmosphere and without it your ship either cant move or has very little steering. The end game would basicly be in space and you could have space leviathans. The sea truck or whatever would seamlessly go from water into air. I think there should still be water ofc since "subnautica" evokes a water vibe but idk having flying would be cool too. ||

[echo locust]

plane mod in SN1 flashbacks

[vernal isle]

Ehhh

Doesn't fit with the general theme

[restive ledge]

I actually had a ton of ideas for a subnautica 3 fresh water thing.

[vernal isle]

@restive ledge I feel like it ||Does set up a third game however it wouldn't fit with the theme of Subnautica all about the deep abyss of an eternal ocean||

[restive ledge]

|| It just seems like 4546b is not gonna be the planet you're on in the sequel ||

[vernal isle]

||I do hope there will be a 3rd game however im not sure about what would be in it||

[restive ledge]

|| I agree it doesnt totally fit the theme but it would be a breath of fresh air (no pun intended) also having space be evocative of the ocean reminds me of that old playstation series Star Ocean ||

[echo locust]

Btw did anyone else notice the credits song is really good

Honestly the entire soundtrack is great, way better than SN1

[restive ledge]

|| also you could do stuff like where even though you're in the air have land that resembles being underwater. Like a foggy area that is deep blue so it's like swimming through deep water. Long grass stems that blow in the breeze like seaweed. Ect ||

[stoic cargo]

Unless they do Marg's story then continue the Architect thing later

Marg's story would span the two sites of the first two games

[restive ledge]

Playing as her could definitly be cool. Explore the void and what lies in between

[stoic cargo]

Yeah at some stage you would have to cross the void

[restive ledge]

And the void is a hugely popular to subnautica players so everyone would be excited to see that. The only problem with it is we kinda already know what happens at the end since we know where she ends up ect. It wouldnt really progress the narrative just be some cool lore info.

[vernal isle]

Anyone else hated the fact that in the first game there were other survivors of the crash until you went to go look for them?

[stoic cargo]

It could extend beyond Robin leaving

[vernal isle]

I really like the fact that there is actually someone else alive on 4546B

[restive ledge]

So I think the idea of playing as marg could work with my idea of a 3rd game set in freshwater.

[stoic cargo]

Well in this game it is still left uncertain about who actually got rescued. That refers to both the Mercury 2 crew and research people. If || Dannelle got rescued then why did Robin not speak to her before going || ?

and Lillian

[vernal isle]

They died

[stoic cargo]

all of them?

[vernal isle]

Most likely

[stoic cargo]

yeah left uncertain

[vernal isle]

Well how far after the first game does this game take place?

[restive ledge]

I had an idea where the story can continue from 1 and 2 where you make 4546b safe from alterra permanently. You would be a guy sent there to mine all the resources/unobtainium type stuff that would destroy the planet if removed. You use artitech technology to send the planet into a hyperspace/alternate dimension so that its permanently safe from alterra AND architect meddling. ||(after all they almost destroyed the planet with khara)|| your character would be trapped there along with the planet for the rest of their days but its chill cus they grow to love the planet over the course of their time there. To go along with growing to love the planet I would have an aggressive leviathan that swims through all the biomes that you eventually find out its sick and when you cure it it becomes non hostile. So there would be a theme of symbiosis between your character and the planet.

[vernal isle]

I wouldn't like a game like that

I feel like its already safe from Alterra

[restive ledge]

Also I LOVE the Aurora blowing up a little after the start of 1. I would have a similar thing where an earthquake causes a fissure to open up that allows you to go deeper a few days into the game. They could bring back that cut content of the black ooze monster that lives in the walls of the fissure until it opens up into a huge cave dealio

[restive ledge]

How? It seems like in 2 they are expanding efforts to colonize it

[vernal isle]

Except for the fact that everything is abandoned but sure

[restive ledge]

I mean its only been like 1 year. They could be sending in more people. It's clear space travel isnt instant in subnautica since it took days for sunbeam to get to you and they were close by.

[crisp meadow]

They should do a thing about the precursor world like the social structure of how they lived or something along those lives because I really want to know more about the precursors

[restive ledge]

Also did we were find out who was in the ship with robin? Are they just her friends or was it alterra and she just abandoned ship?

[restive ledge]

Yep this was my first idea. I'd like the story to continue directly from 2

[crisp meadow]

Yeah

I just want something about the precursor

[restive ledge]

Ya I was so pumped at the end of 2. But I do like the idea of a final send off to 4546b so the devs can explore lore and stuff of different planets

[unkempt bronze]

I believe it was her friends from Xenoworx that dropped her off, considering they're basically funded by Alterra I'd say they have the technology to do it

Also I explained the plot of both games to my mom, and she doesn't like the whole Architect technology idea

[crisp meadow]

They could do a game about another planet but I don’t know how they would get multiple games from that one planet because they already covered ice and there’s not other things they can really do

[restive ledge]

Xenoworx was bought by alterra so I think its reasonable to assume that they are getting ready for anything round of messing with 4546b

[crisp meadow]

They should make another game

[unkempt bronze]

My mom specifically doesn't like how ||Al-An got into Robin's Head||

[crisp meadow]

Was your mom confused when you told her about it

[unkempt bronze]

She didn't like the whole consciousness upload idea, and I understand that

[crisp meadow]

Because the first time I learned about the lore I got really confused

[restive ledge]

For my freshwater idea the roaming predatory leviathan I would make it the ice dragon or something similar as a "nessie" reference. You could have carnivorous sundew plants that stick to your ship and you gotta knife them off until you get a module that idk...makes your ship too slippery lol.

[unkempt bronze]

She's fine with me and my brother playing but doesn't want to discuss it

Found a nice iceberg suitable for large bases

Only one downside, however

[restive ledge]

That's kinda funny shes that upset by it. Idk I thought it was kinda cute/wholesome tbh

[crisp meadow]

They should make a game about the Loch Ness monster

[unkempt bronze]

Chelicarate guarding the one entrance point

So parkouring on the ice or beating it up is the only option

On the one hand, it's capable of using solar AND thermal power

[restive ledge]

But ya basicly tldr... I have alot of stupid ideas for sequels 😅

[unkempt bronze]

Got enough solar to last a lifetime though

Though considering I only have a water filter and a fabricator isn't saying much

[carmine bobcat]

aquaman

[fleet tartan]

okay so I am confusion

[carmine bobcat]

@carmine bobcat hello old friend

[fleet tartan]

i'm one step away from finishing the game, but i'm missing two achievements

[carmine bobcat]

||ok||

[fleet tartan]

one of probably from beating the game right? but what's the second? i feel i've done everything exocet hatch a trivalve egg

but i've been told that's not an achievement

[carmine bobcat]

Sad

[carmine bobcat]

nice base, but truly inefficient. my kind are able to make compact habitats, while also maximising productivity.

Alan, do you really have to criticise everyone who's below you?

i made the largest large room tower

[fleet tartan]

I would say I made a pretty efficient base... minus the 13 or so water filtration plants

[carmine bobcat]

and there we go

[fleet tartan]

okay, now make it in survival

oh okay nevermind lmao

I never made the cold suit hood

[carmine bobcat]

h o o d

[fleet tartan]

i'm so dumb

I almost ended the game without an inventory full of pengwings

[magic frost]

||Well, the ending was great, up until the cliffhanger anyway||

[carmine bobcat]

Beautiful shadow leviathan

[magic frost]

total play time 281 hrs for that run

[carmine bobcat]

i made him follow me

like, i made 2 shadow leviathans follow me

by using b a i t

[fleet tartan]

eh, the ending closed up enough ends if you ask me

ayy a shoutout to wiki keepers is pretty cool

[native storm]

beyond frustrating to have no way to tell initial hull integrity for deepwater builds, ngl

[fleet tartan]

doesn't it say after you place the first component?

or do you mean you want to know even before the first one?

I guess you could if you built a control room as the very first room?

[stoic cargo]

unless you check the console

not sure if viewing voids achievements

[fleet tartan]

oh my god im so dumb

why did I never build a control room? this is SO useful

[native storm]

I'm not gonna use console as much as possible. took a risk building my large room at 490m, about hal the depth of my sub1's base initially. -5.6 hull integrity

at least I have a starting point and don't have to downgrade to finally expand up to it eventually

[fleet tartan]

i've always built pretty shallow

Sub1 I built in jellyshroom, BZ I built in the shallow area of purple vents

[native storm]

if you search me up in the channel #🏠awesome-bases, my first iteration is in there. the second is still a work in progress because of the size of the garden. can only take so much of choppy frames

I'll be pretty disappointed in myself if I get my sub2 base done before the final iteration of sub1's

[fleet tartan]

oh my god your kidding

control room puts a beacon down too? i've just been throwing a portable beacon near my base wherever

[native storm]

not a fan of farming having to take 10x longer than sub1 for my project, but whatever ig

also, sub1 base was cove tree, main base for sub2 will be in deep lilypad caves

since fragmenting is going to be the way to do it in sub2 compared to 1

[fleet tartan]

yea scanning excess fragments was my main source of titanium

[proper schooner]

Anyone else having a problem wher eit kinda auto scrolls through things without your control like in blue peints

[native storm]

I don't even want to know how much titanium this project is going to take considering the amount in my sub1 base

probably not anywhere near the same due to lack of particularly useful vehicles for me, but will more than likely still be 10+ lockers worth

[fleet tartan]

probably because the map was smaller, but a bit disappointed with how just un-needed power was for the most part

[native storm]

mine should still need a ton, so about to figure out how painful a thermal setup is going to be to route

[fleet tartan]

I had a TON of thermal plants though

[native storm]

because nuclear was my supplemental, then an aesthetic

and I plan to do the same

[fleet tartan]

I could actually tell you how much energy they are pumping out now because I made a control room

let's see, my thermal plants are making uh

+1.65, is that power/second?

have 3750 max

[atomic glade]

Is the tree spire side of delta island a good spot?

[native storm]

for a base?

[fleet tartan]

yea, that's where I put my plants

[atomic glade]

yes

[native storm]

I'd recommend the deep ventgarden for tree spires

I'll actually have an outpost there myself

[fleet tartan]

oh, yea I found a thermal near delta station dock and just filled it pixel perfect with thermal plants lmao

[native storm]

you can do the more shallow one, just be aware of the chelicerates

[atomic glade]

The base will be about 100 m deep

[fleet tartan]

I had a chelicerate actually touch my base like twice

but I killed it

[native storm]

I may end up potentially doing leviathan observatories as well in this game specifically since killing them is actually going to be difficult

[atomic glade]

Is the chelicerae a huge problem while building?

[unkempt bronze]

I'm a few inches from a chelicerate, but not close enough for it to attack me

[fleet tartan]

no, it's not hard

it just takes a long time

[unkempt bronze]

Mainly because I'm on an iceberg

So I'm basically untouchable

[native storm]

compared to stasis rifle knife combo in 1, it takes quite some time. riding around on their backs like a rodeo is awful

[fleet tartan]

building on dry land is so restricting though

[unkempt bronze]

Could try running some thermal power up here considering the purple vents are right beneath me

This iceberg is mostly flat thankfully

[atomic glade]

Is nuclear power good?

[native storm]

I've got an iceburg I plan to go build on in one of the artics, I think the east side

[fleet tartan]

there's no place for thermal in the shallow area of purple vents

[native storm]

nuclear is uber powerful, but you need to feed it

[fleet tartan]

I never checked deep purple vents though

[unkempt bronze]

I place the thermal stuff on the vents themselves

Works pretty good

[native storm]

unless they nerfed it from sub1

[atomic glade]

Does the power from the nuclear run out if you don’t use it?

[fleet tartan]

I hear nuclear lasts practically forever

[native storm]

I never went through any rods before I got my thermals set up in 1, but I would assume so due to decay once they're inside the reactor

[fleet tartan]

but I want forever, not practically forever

as a man with 13 water filtration plants, I want forever

[atomic glade]

Can a chelicerate damage a base?

[tawdry rain]

Am I going crazy-pants or did they buff the standard o2 tank?

[fleet tartan]

I think the numbers are all the same still

[native storm]

ugh, gonna be a cool 600m trail of power rods to bring power to my base

[atomic glade]

I heard that if you knife the inside of a base it will leak

[tawdry rain]

I coulda swore the standard tank used to only give like 30s of air.,

[native storm]

not to mention the several hundred meters down to my cave

[fleet tartan]

power transmitters actually can go shockingly far apart

I only had to build like 4 or 5 myself I think

[tawdry rain]

nevermind, it swapped to temp when i saw 100. Ok, not crazy

[fleet tartan]

and like another 6 to actually tap into all of the thermal power plants

transmitters need to be super close to the power source, but after that initial one is placed it's a super long distance to connect to the next transmitter

[native storm]

I'm still probably placing around 800m worth of transmitters. still gonna suck lol

[carmine bobcat]

there should be an upgrade for the scanner room that lets the little scanner drones scan objects

[native storm]

yeah, that'll be the first room I probably max out so I can have a massive display of the nearby cave systems. it's one of my favorite parts about my sub1 base actually

I'm honestly just trying to get my true base started, and I'll do the full footprint later once I have the ion stuff again

may end up making my thermal outpost a secondary anyways since the particle effects in deep lilypad caves are kinda rough

[fleet tartan]

Ion is very unnecessary in this one tbh

[native storm]

I'd agree aside from the fact I build megabases

so I burn through regular batteries like crazy

[fleet tartan]

I think building my current base, I finished with like 15% left?

but I had the chargers down so it didn't really matter that much after that

pretty sure my thermal plants were actually the first part of my base I built lmao

[arctic rover]

just a quick probe before i dive into bug report efforts, does the game crash for anyone else whenever you ||activate the override||?

[fleet tartan]

nope, I was fine

I never had a crash and i've gotten all the achievements

[arctic rover]

Heck. I've got a save right before i did it, and no matter what i do, as soon as i finish the animation the game crashes.

nice flex

[fleet tartan]

literally the only thing I haven't really done is hatch the trivalve eggs

just trying to say i've covered most of the game without issues myself

[arctic rover]

I can effectively recreate the crash every time! I feel like i should show someone-

[fleet tartan]

do a bug report, especially if you can consistently recreate it

[arctic rover]

Oh lmao, bot isn't accepting my dms

[fleet tartan]

is there an in-game option like the first?

[tidal drum]

Are all the fishes gay?

[arctic rover]

Yeah, i did one of em like three days ago and got nowhere

[carmine bobcat]

also like one they lets them pick up items (but only like 4 slots worth of them for balance, and you would need to make it back to the scanner room to collect them, for late game

[carmine bobcat]

🏳️‍🌈

[arctic rover]

Blocked by bot moment

[fleet tartan]

the fish are all "simultaneous hermaphrodites"

to be specific

[native storm]

I'd rather just have locations than collect with drones, partially because I want to clean up all of the large resource deposits

[tidal drum]

So gay

So sad that i've waited for full release sub0

[native storm]

but that room is more an art piece once I clean shop with it than anything

[tidal drum]

And now it's here i don't have a pc to play

😢

[carmine bobcat]

rip

[tidal drum]

Stupid corona

[carmine bobcat]

is there magnetite in the ||koppa mining facility||

[tidal drum]

Stupid alien ||chinese|| virus

[fleet tartan]

@carmine bobcat just visited it, I don't remember seeing any

[carmine bobcat]

kk

[native storm]

no

[fleet tartan]

still go there for jump jet tho

[native storm]

only place I'm aware of is ||phi||

[fleet tartan]

I got all my magnetite from beneath ||Marguerite's base||

you can also find them in veins on land

I was able to fill a standing locker and then some with the magnetite I got from there

[unkempt bronze]

Welp, the iceberg is a pretty good spot for a base

If you build everything properly you can probably get around 10,000 Power with ease

Thermal, Nuclear and Solar are all options too so that's cool

[fleet tartan]

is there really a limit in the distance you can move power with transmitters?

[unkempt bronze]

Don't really think so

[fleet tartan]

because that would be cool to set up another thermal location even though I probably won't need it

I like making long trips for stuff like that

[unkempt bronze]

Purple vents are great for thermal power

From my experience

[fleet tartan]

I couldn't find anywhere to actually put the plants in purple vents, and my base is in it

the purple stuff is too cold

or too skinny to get a plant on

although I don't think i've tried deep purple vents

[round ocean]

is it just me or is the subnautica below zero soundtrack better than the subnautica soundtrack

[fleet tartan]

i've only listened to the ambient soundtrack

I never touched the jukebox stuff, I even built it for the hell of it

[round ocean]

I mean the playlist of the songs there is like 50 songs in it

[fleet tartan]

I mean I don't remember any being bad, so that's good for ambient music

[round ocean]

yeah but personally I think that the bz soundtrack is more relaxing whereas the subnautica one is more I could say scary

[inner flower]

I'm thinking of setting up a 2nd base somewhere but I'm not sure what the best biome would be.

My main is about 90m away from the lifepod in the shallows

[stoic cargo]

Somewhere near Marg and seamonkeys would be beneficial

Or by bridge if wanting to go resource collection crazy

I have no base

[inner flower]

Can you build in the ventgardens?

[stoic cargo]

didn't use to be able to

[graceful fulcrum]

any best suggestions on where to build my new base? I want to make more expansion but cant due to limited spaces on my current locations, near the drop pad

[delicate fossil]

It all depends on what area you like

[next current]

No, there are building barriers inside them.

[glacial totem]

Near the twisty bridges lol

[graceful fulcrum]

i tried building there but there was so many flora scattered around that area so i was thinking of building inbetween that area and the area we have to go through to get to the delta station

[silent gulch]

Im kinda stuck at where im at in my story play through and dont have any where else to go thats pinged. Any suggestions?

[sterile shadow]

Have you gone to the Pilot's Last Known Position signal yet?

[silent gulch]

did that a while ago lol

[fleet tartan]

do seamonkies only take equipment, or can they take anything your holding? like a fish or pengling?

[silent gulch]

already been through her green house and all that

[sterile shadow]

Have you visited the ||Frozen Leviathan||?

[silent gulch]

ye

[sterile shadow]

Did you ||cure it||?

[silent gulch]

no

i dont know how

didnt see anything while i was there

[silver smelt]

Curing it is pointless

dw about it

[sterile shadow]

Here's a guide on how to find the ||antidote||. It's in a small cave that you can only go inside by using a ||Spy Pengling||.
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hqM-Gd5ypQ||

[silent gulch]

i want all the achevements tho

[fleet tartan]

@graceful fulcrum purple vents

[silent gulch]

see thats the problem i dont have a pengling and couldnt explore the little areas with it

[sterile shadow]

yeah definitely make one 👍

[fleet tartan]

it's the perfect depth for foundations + a 2 story base. also the perfect amount of room to get stuff into moonpools

also close to thermal power for a 24/7 supply of power

I gotta post my base sometime now that I beat the game

[silent gulch]

HylanMom is the goat

[fleet tartan]

yea, her guides are super detailed

would have never found those dang squidshark eggs without them I think

[sterile shadow]

truer words have not been said

[graceful fulcrum]

thank you thats the name i was looking for and i am looking for the very last fragment for the thermal plant

[fleet tartan]

there's a ton under ||marguerite's base||

[graceful fulcrum]

is that where the Shadow Leviathan is located?

[fleet tartan]

shadow is a little deeper than them I think

don't think you will encounter it scouring for thermal plant fragments

koppa mining site also has some

the purple vents themselves are not hot enough for thermal though, you need to run transmitters to the geyser thing near delta station dock

idk if there is a thermal spot in the deep purple vents, I haven't really bothered searching because the one near delta gave me more than enough power

plus running power transmitters vertically is a huge pain

i'll probably search tomorrow because I love having ungodly amounts of power for my base

I can also post a picture of the setup of thermal plants too, because I seriously don't think there is any way to get more in there than I already have. tons of pixel perfect placements

[true venture]

|| is the access to the crystal caves by margarites base in the lili pad area?||

[silent gulch]

lol that took 10 min now what?

[silent gulch]

yeah

[true venture]

Thought so

[fleet tartan]

@true venture yea, that is one of the entrances

[true venture]

Ok

[fleet tartan]

there is another in ||deep purple vents||

[true venture]

Ok

Thanks

[fleet tartan]

and I only know that because I got lost and popped out there one time lol

@graceful fulcrum oh yea shoot, I guess that was also a reminder but I meant it to be an answer for your inquiry of opinions of where to build a base

[carmine bobcat]

Guys, is Delta Island a good place to put my HQ?

[fleet tartan]

there are some thermal geysers near it, and purple vents has a lot of flat and decently deep building space. that's where I made my base personally

a lot of space for horizontal expansion, but only enough space for like a 2 story base + space to get underneath a moonpool if it's on the bottom floor

that is if you wanna keep the entire base under the water

[carmine bobcat]

I wanted to put the main part of the base at the top of the island, then connect it to a part in the water where I out my Moonpools

[fleet tartan]

ah, I can't stand dry land bases myself

it's so limiting not being able to move around in 3 dimensions freely

[graceful fulcrum]

having ungodly thermal power is a good idea plus i will be closer to the lithium on the purple vent floor as well as being able to travel one base to another

[fleet tartan]

I don't see how or why people do it

Yea, you can have your base run off only thermal with no supplementary power. I love it personally

[carmine bobcat]

I think it's a cool idea, then everyone has their preference

[fleet tartan]

the only time I actually deplete my base power to 0 is if I have all 9 of my water filtration plants running at once

oh yea, do water filtration plants even work on a dry land base, or do you have to extend a section to under the water and build them there?

[carmine bobcat]

any good base locations

i cant think of any

[fleet tartan]

@carmine bobcat if you scroll up you can read my gushing on purple vents being the best location

[carmine bobcat]

NO

NOT PURPLE VENTS

[fleet tartan]

yes

[carmine bobcat]

NO GIANT SHRIMP

[fleet tartan]

you rarely see it, and if you do you can just kill it with your prawn

literally the cryptosuchus are more of problem than the shrimp is

[silent gulch]

is there anything else to do other than ||cure the frozen leviathan|| and ||build al-an's body||?

[fleet tartan]

and you can kill those and replace them with more passive ones you have hatched from eggs

[silent gulch]

and ||leave on the rocket||

[fleet tartan]

did you do ||Marguerite's sidequest||?

[silent gulch]

yep

[fleet tartan]

yea that's p much everything then from what I know

but yea, I am the local Purple Vents stan: any base questions will be answered with "Build your base in Purple Vents"

although actually some parts of it must be deep, because I have a 2x2x4 multipurpose room setup for alien containment's

and the rooms do not break the surface

[silent gulch]

what button activates the perimeter defense system on the sea truck?

[fleet tartan]

it depends where you put it in the upgrades slot I think

but if you look on the bottom of your screen, there's slots and they correspond to like 1-4 on your keyboard

although they aren't labeled I think

[silent gulch]

nvm i got it

you got it right

[carmine bobcat]

Do the vents in the Purple Vents generate heat for me to use as power source?

[fleet tartan]

no, they aren't hot enough

at least the ones near the surface aren't, I can't speak for the ones in the caves below

[carmine bobcat]

Ok, but there are geysers there right?

[fleet tartan]

i'm going to check them out tomorrow to increase my purple-vents-is-the-best-spot-for-a-base-ever knowledge

[carmine bobcat]

Hahahahah

[fleet tartan]

I know for a fact there is a geyser near delta station dock you can tap into and transmit the power over to purple vents

[carmine bobcat]

Ok, thk

[fleet tartan]

pro tip: save the very center of the geyser for a power transmitter

you may burn alive a few times trying to place it, but once you get it there: it will tap into almost any thermal plant you can place down there

you may need a few more around the general area to tap into all the thermal plants you place, but having that center one can get a lot of them

totally worth losing one maxed out thermal plant for

also you can get a thermal plant or two on the skinny stalagmite-esque formation down there

a lot of it is just slowly moving around the habitat builder until you find that magic pixel and get that short flash of green to place it on

[carmine bobcat]

where should i base

NOT PURPLE VENTS

[flat gull]

There are many nice places. Purple Vents IS nice. I have had bases in both arctics. It's beautiful there, but it typically is a hassle because you get long distances to many places.

[fleet tartan]

I cannot, it is against my nature to suggest anything other than Purple Vents

[flat gull]

But building on / under / around icebergs is nice

[bleak harbor]

After finishing the game and thinking, I do prefer the original to BZ as it doesn't tell you where to go and lets you explore, which feels more immersive and overall have a better experience. You feel more alone and the storyline isn't fed to you, you are encouraged to go places at your own pace and search.

I woulds still rate it very high, at least 8.5/10

[flat gull]

I agree to some extent. Though the original also guides you through the radio. A lot more indirect though. It sends you on a path so you discover interesting things on your way

[fleet tartan]

I think the only thing I like about the original more is the grander scale and more varied environments

the story too

[bleak harbor]

I do prefer the radio as it doesn't just put a beacon for your next location and allows you to traverse the world you are stuck on, while ever so realising you are more and more alone

[flat gull]

Yeah agreed

[fleet tartan]

I have a terrible sense of direction so I like the beacons, but by the time I got around to the story I had already explored everywhere but Koppa and places locked behind story events

[flat gull]

I also feel that BZ is too easy in regards to dangerous fauna. Once you got the hang of it is just not really scary anymore.

[fleet tartan]

really? I feel like the stuff in BZ put up more of a fight

[bleak harbor]

Once you get the perim defence the big levis are literally not scary anymore

[carmine bobcat]

i mean, it does? at least with the ||other lifepods||

[fleet tartan]

nah, I never used perimeter defence and hey still weren't scary

[flat gull]

exactly

[fleet tartan]

they did a little bit of damage and backed off for a bit, giving you plenty of time to repair the damage they did and continue fighting or just be on your way

[bleak harbor]

I do however love the purple vents, the lilypad islands and the two endgame deep ones, but I feel like the aggressive animals don't really pose a threat in them

[fleet tartan]

oh yea, aggressive fauna was nothing more than a nuisance

[flat gull]

with defence there is not even a need to repair. You can just chug along and if a cheli grabs you, if you get the timing right the damage is neglectable and you can just go on

[fleet tartan]

but I also felt that way in the last game

[west flare]

is the cloud save bug fixed? can i switch my steam back to normal client not beta?

[fleet tartan]

the game changes a lot it seems when your main response to aggressive fauna is to immediately fight back, because that's what I do and I seem to always have a very different experience from people when it comes to aggressive fauna

[bleak harbor]

I feel like half of the map is wasted

[carmine bobcat]

below zero is still to scary

[fleet tartan]

a lot of things strike annoyance into me instead of terror

will say shadow leviathan snuck up on me a few times though

[bleak harbor]

If you get told where everything is you don't search around the whole map. Like I just went into the biome once where the beacon was and never came back which feels so wasteful that you dont get to search around the whole biome and instead just beelined to the location and head out

[bleak harbor]

Debatable. IMO the only scary things are chelis

[fleet tartan]

ah, that was different for me because I immediately ignored the story and started goofing around... with purpose

[carmine bobcat]

yeah but i have basicaly every phobia sooooo

[fleet tartan]

I went to new places because I knew they had something in them I wanted, not because of a story thing

[carmine bobcat]

^

[bleak harbor]

Thats fair

[fleet tartan]

"oh, this place has thermal power plant fragments. oh, that place has coldsuit. that place has growbeds, alien containment, trash can, etc etc"

[muted kite]

I didn't really find many places scary in bz

In comparison to the original subnautica

[bleak harbor]

Although personally that is less enjoyable then just exploring the whole ocean like the original

[muted kite]

Other than going into the void and being scared that I was gonna get jumped

Because I knew what was out there

[fleet tartan]

me immediately killing any major threat in an area definitely got rid of any scare factor personally, but even then. I killed them because I saw them as an annoyance to get rid of mostly

[bleak harbor]

If only squid bois were more aggro and chased you further and maybe were bigger

[muted kite]

Squid sharks are too awesome looking to be scary

[fleet tartan]

agreed

[muted kite]

My favourite bz creature

[bleak harbor]

Btw I love this game this is just feedback, I may seem negative however this game is amazing

[fleet tartan]

yea, I also do find a lot of monster designs super cool or cute too, so that takes away from the scare factor

[muted kite]

Yea

[bleak harbor]

Mine is shadow boi

[fleet tartan]

shadow boi's head looks too word for me

[muted kite]

Did anyone else find that lots of biomes seemed a bit empty in below zero?

[bleak harbor]

I just love the way they look and swim around pillars

[fleet tartan]

gaping dragon with a pyramid on its face lmao

[muted kite]

Like the ||crystal caverns and fabricator caverns|| only had shadow Leviathans

[carmine bobcat]

glow whale

[muted kite]

Whereas the deeper areas in the original had more creatures in them

[bleak harbor]

I love those biomes they are so sick. The music and environment are just so cool

[muted kite]

Yea but creature wise

[fleet tartan]

I liked brute sharks, they are adorable

[muted kite]

A bit empty

[bleak harbor]

They are annoying

[fleet tartan]

they were barely even annoying because they were so easy to sidestep

[bleak harbor]

I set up my base in the twisty bridges and I go resource hunting and they would get in my way

[muted kite]

I never made a proper bz base

[carmine bobcat]

and they are great for base building

[fleet tartan]

"oh no it's coming at me, time to move slightly to the left while still going straight and completely avoid it"

[muted kite]

I just made a small room with solar panels next to my pod

[carmine bobcat]

favourite biome?

[bleak harbor]

Thats what I do to snow stalkers too

[muted kite]

I was thinking about getting back into the game and making one

[carmine bobcat]

i love deep lilypad caves

[muted kite]

Same

[bleak harbor]

Crys

[muted kite]

The crystal caverns are beautiful but as I said before they're a bit empty

[fleet tartan]

snow stalkers actually gave me the most trouble

[bleak harbor]

probably 3rd or 2nd fav

[fleet tartan]

I was super hesitant to kill them because I knew every one I killed would never come back

[bleak harbor]

Tbh this is the only biome where I enjoyed how empty they were

[fleet tartan]

snow stalkers are the equivalent of being attacked by someone's small dog

[carmine bobcat]

its sad you cant get any power in the ||deep lilys|| without aa bunch of power transfer-ers or by using a bio reactor/nuclear

[muted kite]

It made it seem scary at first but then you'd realize how little of a threat shadow leviathans are

[muted kite]

I always use nuclear reactors

[bleak harbor]

Its more so the environment and how cool it is

[fleet tartan]

like yea, you could kick it or something. but you don't want to because it would just be a bigger pain to deal with than it's worth

[muted kite]

Well in the original subnautica

I made it in the blood kelp biome

Still my favourite biome in all the games

[fleet tartan]

I killed a single snow stalker because it put me in a corner with my prawn and I physically couldn't leave because it was just standing there in the only exit

[muted kite]

I don't think I killed one

[carmine bobcat]

..

[muted kite]

I didn't need to

[muted kite]

What?

What's wrong with nuclear reactors lmao

[carmine bobcat]

...

[bleak harbor]

I just use 4 bio reactors and a bunch of solar panels, but if it's deep then 10 bioreactors or something

[muted kite]

...

I have never made a bio reactor

[fleet tartan]

I make like 40 thermal plants and called it a day

[muted kite]

Jeez

[fleet tartan]

I was using solar panels until I got the scan for thermal

[muted kite]

You guys play your games weird

[flat gull]

It's like 3 knife stabs from the side. Once you got the hang they are easy enough to fend off. Do bring med packs though 😉

[fleet tartan]

i'm gonna make more tomorrow lmao

[muted kite]

Or maybe I do

[fleet tartan]

when I play survival games, I always have the want to completely subjugate my environment lmao

[carmine bobcat]

EXACTLY

[muted kite]

I just sorta try and do things as quickly and practically as possible

[bleak harbor]

Also another thing which I found cool is that the vents cheli attacked the cryptosuchus

[muted kite]

I still enjoy making bases but my brain doesn't really think about making one unless I need to

[bleak harbor]

It made me try and scan for ages without getting hit

[fleet tartan]

i'm literally in the process of killing all the hostile creatures around my base right now and replacing them with the more friendly ones raised in alien containment

[muted kite]

I only made a base in the blood kelp biome in the last game because I knew I'd be going down there lots

Whereas I only really had one trip down into the crystal caverns

[muted kite]

That sounds like a good idea

[carmine bobcat]

ok

where should i make my base

[bleak harbor]

Yeh it feels as if, besides a few biomes, you only go once for the story and just go out

[fleet tartan]

it is, they leave you alone AND you don't feel bad about making an entire species go extinct

[muted kite]

Mhm

I wish I had more of a reason to spend time in the beautiful biomes the game has

[fleet tartan]

I think both the games kind of suffer from that tbh, a bit of lack of replayability

[muted kite]

Like the deep Lilly pad caves are only really for Al-ans body

[bleak harbor]

I liked where the original you explore around the biome to find what you were looking for, exploring the whole area. Also adding all storyline beacons made you realise the rest of the map was useless as it doesn't have a beacon

[fleet tartan]

or I guess... continue-play-ability?

[muted kite]

Yea

[bleak harbor]

Yes

[muted kite]

Lots of people I know gave up early on in the first game because they didn't know where to go

[fleet tartan]

like I already totally maxed out my base before I bothered with the story, i've done al the side quest, i've made a totally OP self sufficient base

[muted kite]

And literally didn't know you could beat the game

[bleak harbor]

Yeah. It isn't for some people. I personally like the opposite where you explore