#below-zero-chat
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its not bad
The atlas sub was a concept of the cyclops for subnautica.
People renamed an old massive submarine concept and keep asking for it
This boi was like 1/3 size of the whole aurora.
I think snowfox is bad tho
Why did they remove the back camera, it was useful
But it didn't make it cuz it'd only fit in the void.
What if I could make you a game more like subnautica. Seamoth. Cyclops. Derp sharks. Reapers Aurora. Same world even. Happy? Thank me later
It gets the job done as it's the only tool for the job I have at my disposal so I tolerate it and try to enjoy it but man is it bad
Basically the Atlas wouldn’t fit anywhere
It hurt performance, and was kinda janky
Chonky boi.
Only goes to 1000m lol
See?
I don’t think it would fit in any cave system
That's just concept art for sn1
Yeah that’s all it is lmao
it a bigger cyclops
Youtubers were clickbaiting it as hell.
what does the spiral plant look like?
red, white, spiral
spiral
[[Spiral Plant]]
"ATLAS sub in subnautica?!?!?!" "Atlas gonna be in BZ!?!?!?"
I don’t think I did that right
Nah I like the new skin and what not. The only stuff I've really advocated for is higher damage leviathans because they all feel way too weak and barely any kind of legitimate threat and better functionality from the truck. Ie bending like a snake like it looks like it should and any sensible engineer would design it to be able to do. That's about it.
easiest wway to find em is in ventgardens
bendy sub. oh bother, coding that
What does that have to do with among us simply because of vents
Well don't make it look bendy then lol
The internet.
where is ventgardens tho
vents
you're bendy though
S - SE
well technically tree spires
Sure why not. Aren't we all.
Isn't sanity or reality bendy anyways?
Certainly what we perceive to be real is.
Seatruck hits a massive speed decrease when having multiple stuff attached
Indeed
And it also looses mobility
Yerp
thats why we have horsepowa upgraade
It's a discount cyclops but the cyclops had decoys, silent running and stuff
I feel like horsepower upgrade isn't very noticeable tbh.
Seatruck:
-Wide screen.
-Nice steering.
-Gives the feeling when you were roaming free in the clyclops.
-Good for missions under 100m.
Roaming free in cyclops? What? @broken pasture
Or at least it doesn't feel like it's enough to make a legitimate difference in an escape situation.
Oh you poor poor soul
I assume he's meaning to go around its interior
In Subnautica you could walk around the Clycops submarine, biggest vehicle in the whole wiki next to rocket.
he likes the foot feeling
well you can walk back and forth
I played subnautica 1 alot I know how the cyclops works
I disagree thoroughly with that pekerma.
Yeah true
trucks are awesome therefore seatruck is awesome
Yes.
anyway, i say snowfox is bad, what say you
someone spawn Paradigm a seamoth
Don't know about snowfox yet.
you can even get the upgrades
Seamoth is 1000% more maneuverable than the truck and literally better shaped for cave systems.
what's the need for a snowforx? I just explored arctic spires fine on foot
Snowfox is just well fast but clunky
pretty sure the truck is the same as the seamoth when it doesn't have any modules attached, which makes it a direct upgrade
it's meant to help with the distances, and it's portable heat
snowfox is fine its kinda just there, free heat and a speed boost
I like the snowfox, preferably with the worm upgrade
oh yeah heat would help
The heat is nice
idk i use prawn to explore arctic spires. With grapple hook it can be as fast or faster than snowfox and it doesnt dismount you like snowfox does
ice worms are weird
Also miss me with that rose colored glasses cyclops feel. The truck is cramped af feeling. I feel like I'm trynna go to the bathroom on a plane in that thing.
Cyclops had a whole dang living room for the cockpit area
Should I keep an eye on the Temp meter on the Seatruck?
not really
if we had cyclops here, you wwould need to swim around a lot or use prawn
Cyclops was like using a tank though. Difficult and unwieldy. Seatruck is just right
so much cramped spaces underwater
I wish it was more of a threat and could maybe even consume your snowfox that's make it actually a threat and not underwhelming. It's a cycle of get out, repair and drive away
the cyclops is stupid one man should not have a whole submarine
Yes, shadow echo got it just right!
could work maybe idk
Incorrect. Shape matters when traveling cave systems and the seamoth shape is better suited for maneuvering tight spaces whereas the blocky and bulbous shape of the truck is much less so.
It literally said that its not meant for one person
Seatruck isn't too simple like a seamoth and not too complicated like a cyclops.
Just useful and perfect.
i dont like snowfox cause it pops me out every time worm knocks
that's how it is with all leviathans vs vehicles :/
i know thats what I'm saying
You guys clearly have never played a game with tanks. You guys know how treads work, right? It's easy to steer, the main problem is lack of speed.
I didn't save lead for nothing.
I wasn’t using tank in a completely literal sense. Gimme a break😛
Who would even think that lol
I'm going to build a Sleeper module, my first one, what should I have in mind before jettisoning it?
Tank = big and bulky
It also doesn't have any weapons
jettisoning it?
That sounded wrong.
@broken badge IFV, scout tanks, light tanks, MBT, much more
"After removing the module" off the seatruck.
Does it use a petroleum based fuel?!
Pulling that level in the cabin.
Then it ain't a tank
You’re getting way too technical about it
Just saying that the tank big stereotype is not correct.
Tis technically true
It’s a figure of speech, in that regard it’s fine
I just wish I didn't go so slow when I'm using the seamoth as a mini cyclops
I always go so slow in the lategame because of tanks and the reinforced dive suit
slowness and the dang tiny storage module lockers and their huge set name hitbox
I’m not gonna argue using tank as big & unwieldy so we move on
Yerp.
So, sea truck good or what?
Yes
yes
sea truck is just an improved seamoth
I'd figure if you keep the attachments limited it's great
sea truck is pog
the seatruck is amazingly multi-purpose
Just give me a sub with bendable sections like how we can now in the modern day where we aren't doing interplanetary scientific research on alien lifeforms or cams on the truck and it'll alleviate a ton of frustration.
In which situations should I remove the module in my seatruck?
And can I just unplug it and put it back in?
ok, how are you going to program that and avoid clipping?
If you have perimeter defense never
moonpool docking can be tricky without disconnecting. Done right, it's not a problem
paradigm i think you are underestimating how hard it would be to code what you are asking for
I only remove modules at my base (when I'm rearranging or changing what I'm going to bring on an expidition) or when I brought a bunch of resources in storage modules and want to explore the cave I just arrived at
also, was prawn nerfed from subnautica? you lose your grapple momentum when you stop grappling, which I feel wasn't the case in sn1
Wait- What happens if I have 1 module connected and I dock in in the moonpool?
you cant
it disconnects the module
Oh.
Well I'm not a dev so I can't tell you how just like how I can't tell you where the last quasar shot off to in space. However, I can tell you that I don't care about clipping as long as the job gets done, plus I'm fine with them tinkering with it for as long as they need, and I think the second option of cams would probably help alleviate the headaches of trying to program a bendy sub anyways, so pick one and I'm happy.
the game pops them off. also momentum still works but harder
Can I build another moonpool to dock my module in it?
I leave sections at my base I won’t need for a “mission”
Also for tight passageways it’s often prudent to leave modules behind (somewhere safe preferably) for maneuvering. Can come back for them later. I’d say for best performance, limit to 1-2 modules with the main cabin. You’ll want the horsepower upgrade, afterburner helps too & perimeter defense is a must
no
Oh.
it's just not worth the effort if a tiny feature if it'd take so much work
both the cyclops and seamoth are great and serve important purposes
But i do have two moon pools for my sea truck and prawn suit
Docking module, problem solved.
Lmfao yes THEY do but the seatruck doesn't do its job well currently imo
The prawn is now a much better vehicle with the forward boost
:P
everyone here disagrees para
Like I said bud, cams
Seatruck is awesome
I mean earlier I talked to a few who didn't but I really don't care about where the majority is on an opinion
The reverse cams caused alot of issues which is why they were removed
I love the Seatruck.
I'm gonna build a church and imma marry my seatruck, you can't stop me.
yes i liked the cyclops because it was big with alot of space the sea truck storage module is SO BAD LIKE BRUHER its better to make a locker more storage and cheaper
I still think cams would be a great addition and help eliminate a lot of frustration with the truck
Lol please do, I'll officiate it
Now I do believe they should’ve included more storage in the seatruck
i love the seatruck posters
really? doesn't it move slower than in sn1?
Yeah I wish there was more space in the storage modules.
keep calm and truck on
same
"Keep calm and truck on."
and what's with that huge empty wall in the fabricator module
Wait a second, can you not jettison the modules while driving?
I havent noticed. but hey can it move with boost
who else is super happy they kept the prawn suit in the game
yesss
Zap, repair, drive, get attacked, Zap, repair drive. That's the ||endgame cave basically with shadow leciathan||
The 1 thing I'd love from the cyclops in the seatruck is being able to build stuff inside.
boost is great but not as great as being the fastest vehicle in the game
it makes the prawn suit function more "as intended" but removes the thing that made it optimal to use
Like build lockers in the fabricator module.
Agreed
@hollow belfry wait, removed the thing that made it optimal to use? What did they remove?
How about some pots?
I feel like most of the seatruck modules are already cluttered enough without adding more stuff
Huh?
There was a planter module once. it's gone
The hull reinforcement module 
i love doing my stunts with the prawn on land and the little over hang by the drop pod is fun
Seriously tho
Are the modules self-powered or depend on the seatruck?
this, also building things in a vehicle that can be on an angle probably gets weird and annoying
Can you not jettison modules while driving?
Like, I could make a habitat out of modules without a seatruck cabin?
Do you understand the concept of sarcasm?
I was asking before about a change to the grapple arm: in BZ, when you stop grappling, you lose all that speedy "pull" momentum
I'm pretty sure that in SN1, you didn't lose that speed and it made the prawn the fastest vehicle in the game
A few other minor things..
The image of your seatruck, I wish it displayed your “level” meaning how much you were tilted compared to the horizon, as well as your number of modules. That would be a nice reference
Also, change the eject prawn pad in the docking module to ALSO provide access to prawn storage so we can move things around with the storage without leaving the seatruck
That's a speed bug and you know it Mantis. I'm glad that was patched.
anyone else collect ever diamond you see even if you have locker filled with diamonds
Prawn is not supposed to be able to move that fast in SN1.
BZ is better on story ngl.
mm, I don't agree tuna
Wait what the? What? Can you answer properly? What was removed?
Wow wow wow bud stop your seatruck hate right there mister!
They made BZ an arctic zone for a reason.
How dare you!
The hull reinforcement module was removed
Exploration.
when i hatched my golden triveles the pda said to trun them into sushi lol
Laughs in bought the game 1 week before 1.0 
I’m not a mister
With a hull reinforcement I feel like you could just bash voids to death with your truck
What Mantis is referring to is the huge amount of speed the Prawn builds up in SN1 while using the grapple arms. While you're being propelled forward, you keep the incredible momentum when you release the grapple(s). This is a bug, and he's disappointed that it was patched.
I was joking about the hull reinforcement. Thought it was obvious by adding an emoji that expresses sarcasm.
the grapple thing is way too easy and intuitive
and also took a bit of skill to take advantage of
Oh
Well then you pipe down corporeal being.
i am literally deeply in love with the prawn suit hull reinforcement module
What was patched where?
you lose your grapple speed when you ungrapple with prawn thom
We don't tolerate seatruck hate round here
Seatruck is love, seatruck is life.
In this game? Because the speed the prawn now has on land in return is not much better x)
Exactly see
Sometimes I can't understand the Pda in Below zero properly because of its weird accent
Isn't it supposed to be text to speech?
Or does it have a VA
I dunno.
TTS can have accents
I love the BZ pda
the void levitations this time around are a lot less scary this time sad
But I hate the freaking: "O x y g e n" line.
i hateit
true i too wish to die of oxygen loss
the accent is upper class indian
Yeah it's pretty funny to think the last words you'd ever hear are your pda telling you exactly how you already know and are experiencing the pains of dying.
anyone else die to not having water because
the only thing i die to
speaking of speed exploits, do you guys know about the booster tank + prop cannon one?
OxYgEn
Be it starvation, dehydration, and the classic, oxygen
User Death Imminent
Who makes the Tech robin uses? Xenoworks? Or alterra?
I think the story in BZ is kinda weird especially Alan saying he's a collective but then he's not
Replace line with "You dun $%^$ Up" Fade to black
Like just imagine starving to death on an island and every 5 minutes siri is yelling at you that you're dying of starvation
Congratulations. You are drowning
microsoft
She uses an old Xenoworx PDA
Oooh.
This but in GladOS voice
Yes
Unrelated: why I can not has medkit fabricator?
Absolutely yes
Xenoworx tech, but they’ve been bought out by Alterra
Yeha I thought that too lol
What if everything you built had a microphone so Bill gates hooked up to a Prawn suit could hear you-
it does
Man he's gonna be in for a weird time then
Oh crap-
because the crafting recipe is literally just creep vines
I mean, you can stare at the one sitting in ||Marg's base||
or 
Jokes on him, I'm not trapped with him listening to me. He's trapped listening to me.
:triggered:
yes, it taunts me
a single farm plot will give you an infinite supply faster than the medkit fabricator produces them

can I also stare at those FAKE lanturn fruit
Lol
@proud linden you choose what-
you can get those later
fake lantern fruit ?
absolutely
I know, which makes it make less sense
and bulbo trees
Hell yeah
they tasted so good
Bulbo trees are where it's at
||marg's base|| has an uninteractable lanturn fruit and iirc bulbo, both of which are found in other locations and can actually be interacted with there
makes no sense
Lantern fruit taste like kerosene
There’s a medkit fabricator at one or more of the Alterra bases as well. It still kinda makes me sigh they’re not in the game, even if making medkits isn’t difficult
no you can't get bulbo, but you can get melons
omega - but I think they removed it
I love salads
preston's plants make SO MANY LEAVES and the pepper plant regenerates fruit
it's great to have an option for food that isn't "hoard salted fish or have a bulbo in your cyclops"
Because I found some crap and idk wtf they're any good for.
I think it’s still there
I'll google them at some point but I can't see them being any good for anything other than maybe aesthetics.
nah bruh you want to go Cajun blackened peeper with Fevered Peppers over rice
Oh hell yeah
and I want a radio, because they cool
god now i am hungry
With spring onions
what if somebody tries to call
True
nobody sounded interested in my speed exploit
Peeper étouffée
there is only one other living person in the game and i dont think she wants to talk to you 😂 at least no more than necessary
Depleted reactor rods lol
there is a fun super speed exploit. get booster tank, and propulsion cannon. Grab a fish, hold it, boost
yup
300% speed? it's really fast
works better with air bladder since it can't disconnect accidentally
I really like the exploit because it's the best kind— useful in niche situations, but not overpowered and not something that'd accidentally get in the way much
I just used the better seaglide mod which adds a boost function
🤣 you got me there
Seriously tho, I'm surprised there's no sea glide modification table upgrades
pathfinder? lol
although its a balanced mechanic and eats batteries like candy
Pathfinder is better than in og
does anyone else have extreme jank exiting the water? it's so inconsistent and weird
depends mostly on framerate and hardware but yes
climbing up is harder than it should be
Oh oh oh also, why not get a modification upgrade table to connect the scanner room to the mineral detector? That way you don't gotta go back to base to change what the scanner is searching for and you can just change it on your upgraded mineral detector?
moonpool ladders are the biggest offenders
ah yes stuck inside the geometry so we meet again wall
Personally I almost never use the scanner room it just looks neat to look at but for those who do and when I do I think it'd be useful since the mineral detector is kinda meh imo.
is it actually worth making a scanner room? if so where?
it feels like game is programmed to launch you out of the water and specific speeds depending on how fast you're moving and depending on a set of very specific angles
it's not a smooth transition
anywhere with a lot of resources that you want to gather
I tried that handheld scanner first playthru & it was garbage imo. Didn’t help me at all
I recommend the mines its pretty much dead center of the map and with upgrades you get almost full map coverage
and you have the geothermal to power it
It'd make me use both the scanner room and the new tool waaaaay more if I could use it so easily like I described.
the mineral detector was actually pretty useful for me
I just wish the range was a little bigger
Also add a nothing screen or something to cancel scanning so you don't gotta deal with annoying articles.
tbh if you have access to ion batteries the mineral detector is much better than scanner room as long as you know your biomes and what spawns where
that's called switching to another slot
Then I think that would honestly be a perfect 2 birds 1 stone solution but that just me.
But to me that’s the whole point of it, if you don’t know where to look, it should point you in the right direction
Unless you are using hud mods the scanner room blips don't scale properly with distance and clutter the screen
Yes and no @hollow belfry , I'm talking about my hypothetical where it's connected to the scanner room. Ie you're effectively telling the scanner room what you want via the detector, so when you're done ideally you'd be able to switch to another slot. However it seems like it'd be easier to just add a screen to the detector to send the same existing command to whatever they got already set up.
really? so the circle won't be centered on an object when you move over to it?
What i mean by that is which resources exist in which biome the mineral scanner is short range and you need to set what your tracking
If your trying to find X in a biome where it doesn't spawn its not going to help
yeah, I use it when I know where to look and don't want to worry about looking/ want to catch hidden ones
Exactly part of the problems that I'm saying I think a min detect scanner mix upgrade would fix.
I rarely use either atm because of their issues but if you combined them as extensions of one another I think they could really sing
I like that idea
Shifty Eyes Shifty Eyes Slowly reaches for the Tilde key
And that’s why I found it useless. If it can’t give you any indication of where you need to go, I’d rather have a scanner room
would it be worth me making a map of ice worm locations?
they spawn in very distinct spots
I just want resources to dynamically move around with ocean currents spawn and despawn randomly
just to refresh things after time has passed
resources like quartz and limestone chunks respawn, right?
afaik they never did unless it was added recently
oh no
fish will
do rock punchers spawn things?
Yes.
but not in a meaningful way
I wonder if you could make a farm
unless you want to breed 20 of them and release them near your base
actually i should try that
you could make a base that keeps them in a specific area on a rock
eggs eggs where to find the eggs
didn't one of the alpha builds of the original subnautica have a mining mechanism that allowed you to actually remove terrain
Everywhere
i meant specifically for rock punchers
yeah, a terraformer tool that apparently was really resource-intensive (computer-wise)
I really don't like terraformer tools in games I've seen
making a round hole or object looks really ugly
the problem is you need different brushes and noise generators to make natural looking formations
but its always remove this or add this in geometric shapes
oh damn, wiki says rock punchers can produce pretty good resources
Might be more ideal to make a sea monkey farm.
or remove CellsCache files
oh does that respawn everything?
doesn't that mess with bases tho
and cause duplication errors
ie things spawning inside other things
could be worth making a save backup and trying it
just duplicate the save folder and remove cellscache in the new one
Ah yes, I remember the sea monkeys grabbing the kyanite off the ground in their biome.
nickel*
?
they do that with nickel in the lilypad islands and aren't intended to iirc from the wiki
oh
ohhh I see what happened
so here's what I'm thinking for a farm: find a steep slope and trap the punchers in a row with a gap under them they can't pass through
\ __
_\Ooe| |
__\ ^^
___\
Ooe = puncher, \ = rock slope, | = base edge
the puncher can't move there, and when it makes rocks, they fall down to be collected
I think I'm gonna test this now
it'd be awesome if it works, because renewable resources are the best and the lack of renewable resources in SN always scares me
Why? Because I can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ8ctAMAtPM He do be zooming
Fastest way to travel in Below Zero confirmed???
Dive into a freezing underwater adventure on an alien planet. Below Zero
is set two years after the original Subnautica. Return to Planet 4546B
to uncover the truth behind a deadly cover-up. Survive by building
habitats, crafting tools, & diving deeper into the world of
Subnautica.
#Subnaut...
This is probably faster than super seaglide lol
we were discussing that earlier
the issue is that you run out of booster tank oxygen and need a booster tank and prop cannon, both of which are much harder to get quickly than the seaglide
I wonder if there's some way to get the dropped items into a base
it'd need an upside-down moonpool or precursor door or something
It's funny tho
Basically this
Except he's magneting his own body forward instead of the car
food for thought the prawn can also equip a prop cannon and has booster.....
he aint doing anything
has anyone tested this
I tested it, doesn't work
😦
the prawn doesn't get magneted like you do with the prop
Prawn big heavy
Huurrrnnnng Captain I am trying to exploit the physics engine but I am Dummy Thicc
Now that i think of it, a magnet would be a cool addition to subnautica
Mineral go to your hand
Grav trap baby
Ah makes sense
puh 30min seems really optimistic
I forgot about that, im getting old 🧓
The world record for subnautica is 36 minutes I think and bz is shorter
unless we can clip probably would take longer
it's 33:36
and even if we can clip it'd be tough to maneuver the caves
BZ 58 minutes with no glitches so far
we had game breaking seaglide bugs though which are now all foxed in bz
Super seaglide isn't in bz?
no
nope
the only thing I know of thats working is the air bladder exploit
ohhhHH rock puncher can cliiimb
And you can't clip using mobile vehicle bay?
I see
Sorry for the last two videos being so bad, here is a well edited video
that I took a lot of time on.
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Dive into a freezing underwater adventure on an alien planet. Below Zero
is set two years after the original Subnautica. Return to Planet 4546B
to uncover the truth behind a deadly cover-up. Survive by...
Yeah I haven't really researched anything about bz besides my own playthrough because I think it's a lesser game compared to og subnautica
damn
I think it's way better than the original
I think it has good QOL updates and that's about it
I agree with Mantis.
I think the world, atmosphere and creatures of the original are all better
Except for the shadow leviathan, he wins over the ghost
Og and bz have advantages and disadvantages
Yeah they do
I feel the exact opposite way lol
Bz does some things better than og
We need subnautica 3 to be a mix
Oh and squidsharks > crabsquids
Subnautica: Above Water
Actually maybe the creatures in bz are better, I'm just really held up on the fact that the chelicerate is waaaaay less of a threat than the reaper and there are way less of them too
Subnautica: above zero
chelis are more dangerous than reapers
because they turn faster and are therefore harder to dodge
that shrimp smell is terrifying
they just don't spawn as much
During my playthrough I swam 10 meters right under a chelicerate multiple times and it didn't even grab me
It would just aggro too late and then not be able to catch up
And by that I mean in a seatruck
I'm not gonna swim by a leviathan with a seaglide
I wish there were at least some fauna in BZ that had traditional mouths
the squidshark, cheli, and ice worm mouths are all "alien" and weird aesthetically
I love the design when they don't have their mouth open
Blue sharks are kinda the only aggressive fauna with a normal mouth right?
chelis do have a pretty small aggro radius, but they move really fast and will basically swim over randomly to a point where you're in their aggro radius
sounds about right
maybe one or two more we haven't thought of
define normal ?
Like a real life shark
i mean have you SEEN some of the deep ocean fish on our own planet ...
Like most creatures in og subnautica
Pengs look very alien-like, good detail
Yeah the mouths do seem very similar which feels like a weird sentence to type
The only mouths that look super alien to me are the squidshark's and the shadow leviathan's
it's fine to have "alien mouths" but I'd like a bit more variety/ not only one normal one
and they really detract from the visual appeal of the creature for me
Chelicerate is up there but I'm pretty sure we have fish on earth with a mouth like that
Probably not the same size but
we have fish on earth with mouths like all of them
doesn't mean it doesn't look bad
It has a pretty standard looking beak
I like it when it's closed
same with ice worm and squidshark— it's nice when it's closed
Most feel like kinda the same except ol blue slurpee mouth
most people do because when its open its usually trying to eat you or nom on your vehicle
Yeah I just would definitley appreciate more variety is all.
that's why I don't group the shadow with these ones— it's more unique and not just "one point opens up into more than 2 parts!"
True
man rock punchers are slow
it would be cool if we had a different conversation on sam's necklace after checking the pda in marguerits greenhouse n such
Ider the first one tbh
Didn't she just say something like, your sis was cool, leave me alone, and screw alterra or something?
that's about what I remember
Pretty sure that's every interaction with her lol
then she just went back to her base and played angry birds on her pda for the rest of the game
lol
Way to stick it to the man lol
P.S. Dope prawn suit skin she has for my prawn suit when?
prawn suit battles when
Glow whale jousting when?
stab a leviathan with a claw
be like that girl in the first subnautica
who killed a reaper leviathan witha broken steel pipe
I nearly forgot you ||disable the radio tower thingy|| for marg and she's like "thanks" and that's it
The one that died?
Oh yeah that one. There were a lot.
I liked that one.
That one was neat. Was that the same one where she was stuck with the holier than though upper class lady who was incompetent and killed them both?
idk
That one was both upsetting and hilarious
my memory is 
shes like 'thanks, come to my greenhouse grab a few pda's and plants'
It's cool I haven't slept in a day or so so mine ain't great either but it's not important
you know when you cruising around in kelp in your seatruck and smack into a fish and your brain thinks "I JUST RAN OVER A HOVERFISH OMG"
but there are no hoverfish in subnautica below zero
so now you are double sad :(
Dude not even, she goes I guess that was you. Like she tries to not even give you credit for it like bruh? Tf you think I'm doin here?
I got the last achievement I needed
Although I wanted to know if anyone else can hear the constant sound of wind when underwater after || Al-An goes through the portal at the end? ||
Why must you hurt me this way? 
:( hoverfish in bz when
It's not a loud sound or anything, it's just in every biome now
Hoverfren in bz when? 😭
There are vents
Like there are no Sea monkeys in the normal subnautica
It is very plausible that a group of hoverfish could've gotten separated even if only to be studied by the architects or alterra and after those groups collapsed those hoverfish overtime became better adjusted to the environment in bz.
Just saying in terms of speciation that occurs all the time in the regular world, it's technically plausible.
But I know I know they aren't there and yada yada
Yea. But Unknown Worlds is finished with the game now. They won't be adding any more content. But maybe someone will make a mod adding hoverfish.
rock puncher farm not looking good
Lol what?
I'm testing a farm for materials that uses rock punchers
but they're really slow and like to move around
I don't think that's ever gonna be as efficient as just mining with the prawn suit
Even if you have 10 rock punchers
Don't mining nodes respawn?
renewable
I asked and someone said no
bahahah silly . we are humans we like to pollute and not use renewable energy sources or anything renewable!
yes.
!!!
I'd guess not, did you test it?
Nah I'm not by my stuff rn
If that works then a nuclear reactor is broken
It just occurred to me
i just leave mine by the area where things i dont like spawn
Not in a nuclear waste bin?
How dare you!
What does it even do if you just toss it outside?
probably despawn
gives you a healthy dose of can- or despawn yea
Crabsquids are cute and eyejellys are cuter
if crabsquids are cute
Actually no
you are insane
Just as cute
st op
just tested— you can't put delpleted rods in
That's cool with me
but you can put the repair tool in, and the repair tool creates a free battery...
Yeah that makes some sense
you can also just take the battery out of the repair tool!
:O
No way!
unlimited free batteries
Frickin life hack!
LIEF HAKC
LF HC
Lh
So what are they working on now then if it ain't bz?
wait
Who knows
subnautica bz doesnt get anymore updates?
Probably updates but no more content
I guess it may get bug fixes

Like fixes but jiggity jack of anything else
you are die 
Hoverfish am infinite
hoverfish am infinite
Hoverfish am immortal
hoverfish am immortal
Now that i think of it, bladderfish doesnt have a mouth does it
Goodbye old friend
NO NO STOP
How do they eat?
😭
I mean the bladderfish
oh
Not the hoverfish
The mouth is actually just for aesthetics they truly just feed off of good vibes and kindness.
Makes sense
bladderfish dont eat
They are herbivores
they exist purely for a quick water snack for us humans
they have no purpose in life other than quick water snack
Also can we agree that cooked bladderfish is worthless
yes
They're kind of like a living mesh net that absorbs stuff afaik
||Margrit was all the way over in subnautica and then you learn she got over to bz. How??!?!?!?!? is the void not a thing to her????||
shes just different
Actually the void doesnt exist it just servers as a border
the void does exist tho
She went on a reaper corpse
"The bladderfish is able to filter air and seawater into its body cavity through a unique membrane which surrounds its spine like a bladder. This allows it to remove and consume organic particulate caught on the way, and adjust its buoyancy." from its PDA entry
So it's kinda like photosynthesis
Yeah 😢
Thanks sheep
the void does exist tho
Maybe the 3 ghosts just saw the dead reaper and decided to leave it alone
Yep, living mesh net just like I said
doesnt subnautica take place in a crater of a volcano
Yes it does
and around the edge of that crater is a big dropoff
Yerp
Yep
if you wanna ride all the way from sn to bz on a dead leviathan, have fun
i remember my first time going there!
You're dang skippy I'm having fun on that ride
Which is the dead zone, or the "void", where only microscopic life forms and leviathan class life forms who can live by consuming only those microscopic life forms exist
||it says in subnautica how she went into the void with the reaper going down down down and fought it and won so if she got to bz then she must have took a cyclops but if there is no cyclops to be seen then it must have exploded but if her dock only had he prawn then how did she not fall to a ablivion annddddd also she doesn't have grapple arm so it makes no sense to me||
and jose
dont forget jose lives their
there*
the reaper died, and then it floated and became a boat
She does have that stabby spear arm, maybe she hitched a ride on it via that?
||She explains that she literally rode the reaper all the way to sector zero as it was floating along the surface, using its fat to make fire to keep warm and eat its insides along the way||
On her prawn suit that is
ig so
dont listen to paradigm lol
ooohhh kkkkkkkkaaayyyyyy
Idk man I'm just guessing but it seems like the only answer
ig idr anything
isnt that spear arm the bone of the big apendeges of the reaper?
idk if you read the pda's XD
i do
She probably got the prawn some time after Alterra arrived at sector zero
That's not entirely correct though
like its big head spikes
Yeah she literally explains the whole thing in her pda messages
Cause she rises to the surface first
but the last time i played it was 3 or 2 months before the release update
If you're talking about how she rode the tides to bz than yeah it was just jonah and the whale style, but in terms of how she didn't sink in her prawn suit idk I feel like that didn't get answered now that you bring it up
She made her prawn suit after she got to sector zero
Or else it would make no sense
So then she swam from the void to the surface after killing a reaper?
And that makes more sense?
the ghosts didnt follow her
ya thats what i wanna know though how does the ghost levi not get in the way
the reaper floats to the surface. ghosts dont follow as they dont eat stuff like that
Did she ever even mention that she ended up in the dead zone with that reaper?
I guess technically the void could be like 5 ft because it's not really a depth
Why is it rainbow??
Pride month
nope
Go to delta island and go east
yeah it is kindaa hard
just follow her directions
Idk, I think she might or she mentions the void but she could be speaking figuratively though a seasoned vet of those areas might be saying exactly that she was in the dead zone void.
Theb climb icebergs till you find
its like 1.1k meters from delta
east, look at the delta beacon, and go 1200m from it
so not quite a kilometer
thanks
well not quite one kilometer
it's more than a km. 1.2
just look at the beacon. Also the island has lights and boxes
||just go the way she said to go but there's a charr-something there so be careful also careful again cuz there's a spot where you can beach ur seatruck and never get it out unless you get out of the game and go back to the latest save||
||It's never mentioned that marguerit went to the bottom of the dead zone with that reaper, she brought an out of commission reaper to one of the degasi sea bases to research it while being tailed by a second reaper without her realizing it, this second reaper attacked the degasi base and this is the one marguerit killed and rode all the way up to the surface, THEN she eventually passed through the dead zone as she was carried by the tides on top of the reaper but ghost leviathans don't eat reapers so they didn't care about the dead reaper floating on the surface at all, meanwhile she was using the dead reaper's fat to make fire to keep warm and also cook the reaper's insides so she could eat, and that's how she got to sector zero||
And that's the full story of what happened with marguerit
but what is her tinder nickname?
Something not family friendly
Meaning I can’t put what I think it’d be on this server lol
that exists?
It's a mod
it's the most popular mod
What, a map?
i navigated using the map in the pdp
A topo map mod?
no crystal caves yet, I think
that is required yes, or you won't get in
we don't assume cheat codes
how can i fly
can you tame a snow stalker???
no
oh
yes, but after the greenhouse
you can?
it won't be a proper pet, it just ignores you
more useful: hold a flare, they are scared of it
with wich comand
ghost
you can pet the babies as far as i´ve experienced
feed it a preston fruit, it goes friendly
Petting the babies doesn’t give fur tho. You have to collect that another way
a different way
Yesh
a cute way?
I think so
Is Below Zero a perfect seaquel
I think most of us like it very much
Not perfect, some of the story is weird but it's a fun game yeah
Wow for once this chat hasn't been active for 10 minutes straight
Wish below zero was more scary and that they'd turn up the darkness
Favro has been changed https://favro.com/organization/35200a08dbbad85b26102638/0d9378db42299691bb14c708
It's dark enough in some areas
Ooo
Does the seatruck have an ai voice? A new one?
Don't remember
Favro changed one or two weeks ago.
I only just realized
I need help, so i died of starvation in my prawn. I was at the crystal caves area. I died of hunger then i spawned back in my seatruck. The prawn beacon is gone. Im pretty sure it didnt break or blowup or anything. how do i get it back
Yes please this would be great
poggg module support for moonpool
Can they make a suggestion channel
If it doesn't exist in your inventory it broke.
Hey guys, if I release a glow whale that I hatched will it despawn or grow up?
And it won’t stick around?
apperently 2 smacks with your seatruck kills cryptos
Is this a spoiler chat btw?
yes
Yes
Read the channel description
Kk
Can they make a channel for suggestions because it would be cool for them to get suggestions from the players
Also they should make a 3rd game about the precursor planet
You can post your suggestions here
Ok
Just don't ping the devs
Why would one try to
Just released the glow whale, so will he stick by where he was released or just wander?
It's so odd that the BZ pda has an Indian accent often times I have to look at subtitles to check what it's saying idk
I don't have an issue understanding it
I think the BZ pda makes too many jokes
It has 2
Literally has 2 @forest sparrow
The Subnautica PDA has more jokes and satirical sayings
Nah there’s no way. Like every time you place anything
They should make a 3rd game about the precursor race where everyone is in qurantine from the disease and then when Alan gets there they make shipping lines to get the enzyme to cure the disease but during that they are intercepted by alterra and alterra try’s to invade the planet to get the resources and technology and you have to do stuff to protect the planet and they could have a section in the water where there are monsters and you have to do tasks and build stuff to save the planet but then you get separated from them and you have to live on your own while the precursors defend the planet and alterra ships and maybe precursor stuff drop into the water and you get to search it and get materials
That's a terrible idea @crisp meadow
Like the scanner room, the coffee machine, the aquarium, posters mainly building stuff I guess
Ok
@forest sparrow do you laugh at it?
@crisp meadow the precursor race is 1000 years before the game takes place
Alterra also is not allowed to have a military @crisp meadow
Did you finish the game
Because it's a company, a trans gov
@crisp meadow I know the ending yeah
It’s less funny when it’s done more but that’s just me. Doesn’t really change my bearing on the game
Alterra just supplies the TSF
Alterra does not have a military and isn't allowed to
The TSF is the military
Why would they have mercenaries
It's hardly more than a police
@crisp meadow not allowed to they are not a military
Degasi was a Mongolian vessel not Alterra
Subnautica is not and will not be a game about interspecies space war
Ok
Subnautica 1 also doesn't really have guns
Even tough most of the problems could be solved with a gun
But there's a logical explanation why there's no guns
I know about that
Because the company felt bad for shooting victims
Can you use a propulsion cannon on leviathans
no
Ok
What are you talking about?? Are you mad? @delicate fossil
No
I said that before
And they also can't have guns in the second game because it takes place after
Unknown Worlds Entertainment said they were emotional devastated by shootings going on in the world and states that was the reason why they decided not to have guns in subnautica. They also wanted the game to be not about combat.
Ok
Yeah we know but Ingame it's because Alterra is a company, a Trans gov
They aren't allowed to have a military
But they should still do something about the precursor world
Maybe just make a map or a game about there civilization
Its complicated I can confirm they take damage when you shoot objects at them however the damage dealt vs their total health points makes this meaningless
The precursor world is interesting and I would assume a lot of people would want to learn more about it
Obraxis massacred some people
Na they named a planet after Obraxis and said there was a massacre there and because of it guns were removed from the fabricator.
Yes
Yeah
But they're still not allowed to have a military even before that
Obraxis only massacres people who are trolls on discord.
Because they're not a nation
@delicate fossil what? That's doesn't have anything to do with the lore or anything
No, it's just weird that you say that
No, just no
I failed
Spoiler tag that please.
anybody know if it is possible to spawn models in game?
like the random probs you cant scan n stuff
props*
sorry about that scubatuna
||i realized you can fly with the propulsion cannon||
spoiler^
Pretty sure they fixed that if you pick up stuff you can't stand on it
With a living one?
Not anymore
There seemed to be much more going on with the old story
But it probably didn't have the same subnautica feeling of being able to go where you wanted and that's probably why it was cut
Wish I could've played it though
is it possible to mod cracked subnautica below zero?
@safe sun
Oh this is an interesting one
733298433468661811
The user ID
@deep kettle
Who was that commando person
Anyway, now that I've finished the story, I'm messaging around with the developer commands and you can actually spawn the drops from the the older verson of the game
One of them had an item that was called none
i did send user ID incase you wanna ban him
lol
What does he mean by cracked. Like a pirated version or something?
best base location?
Subnautica isn't a very expensive game itself. Don't see why someone would go through extra effort to get an illegal copy
Now, I would like to get a version of the older story to see how that was
There is no "best place". Perhaps there's better places than others. For me, I would qualify a better base location as somewhere that is central in the map (so that travelling to different places doesn't take too long), somewhere that has a decent amount of resources, and finally somewhere that has a heat source for me to power my base using thermal plants. For me, Thermal Spires is probably the best place.
Tbf there are people who consider $30 expensive
Wouldn't it be cool if the moonpool repaired your vehicles as well as charging it
sure
also subnautica below zero was cheaper in EA, people need to stop being late
and epic games gave out subnautica some time ago
man, those blue spots on snow stalkers faace kinda look like eyes from the front
ikr
i wish
they do real eyes still cute tho
If I had a good PC I would've gotten the early access version with the old story
might be a mod for that
thats what she said
Yeah there is a mod for that.
Did people loose their old saves when the new story came out
Also Sam was alive in the old story right?
Why was the medical kit fabricator removed? Did the devs think it was too easy to get medkits?
i guess passive medkits were too easy so now you have to go knife some kelp
Man, i wanna have a pet snowstalker in my base too
Can anyone else say that they have killed 4 ||Shadow Leviathans||?
i hate it how you can only plant exploitables and the 2 plants brought over from the first game
Just building a observation base and this happened
How dangerous is a shadow Leviathan base
a base? probably not
not dangerous at all
but shadow leviathan can grab your stuff like cheli does
Im sure building is dangerous i have died 2 times now
@quaint cloud Kill it
No i need it for a observatory
You gonna observe the Shadow?
Yeah
It's basically just a whispy black line, there ain't too much to observe
I got 90C thermal plants its a good spot
toasty
Now that I think about it, it's fascinating that the big bad spooky in sub was a giant alien t-rex squid hybrid and bz it's basically just a supersized stretched out alien leech.
Can confirm, Shadow Leviathans are far less aggressive after being killed.
en la zona de los lirios flotantes mi Seatruck recibió una descarga y se fue la energia alguien save que paso? ----- in the area of the floating lilies my Seatruck received a shock and the power went out, someone know what happened?
Squid shark.
😄
Anyone speak Spanish
I'm curious how the design teams and so forth went about their projects, especially since they're so different.
Squidshark have an electoramagnetic attack they use sometimes when they get close to you but don't actually hit.
Are the torps pretty useless in this game as well or did they find a way to make them work?
Hello everyone. I just finished subnautica below zero less than a hour ago. And i still have few questions about it. If i understood the rules there is no problem spoiling here?
I dont have a prawn dont have and idea about the torp
Yeah but put the spoiler thing just in case
||like this? Test, test||
Yeah
Ok it work. 👌
yo
||Then, why are all the base we will encounter during the base completely broken? I mean, i completely understood why marguerite destroyed the omega lab, but i didn't get why phi base and all that stuff were like that too.
Alterra was still supposed to rule that planet or i forgot something? A cataclysm happened? ||
im bak from the ded
|| so the first base by the warp base was destroyed by a Avalanche do to the meteors and phi i dont know why i think delta was also by marg||
||so marg kill all the scientists? ||
Probably
hi
maybe they werent there at the time
And then they just left the planet
There was also the evac do to the ||bacteria|| and ||sams death||
It would make more sense. That's what happened to omega lab
the only thing we know is that sam and paravan were on site when stuff happened to excavation base
We need speakers for outside the base
Yes
||Well in omega lab no one died.||
||Sam was setting up explosives to close the cave before curing kara||
Thats' proven in one of the PDAs you find.
I know
That's why i said that she probably waited for the scientist to leave the base... BUT
But that's all in fact.
how can you get snow stalker fur
Spy pengling
Spy penglings or find it in caves
caves that have snow stalkers in them in the Glacial Bay
glacial basin?
yeah, basically. the land ova there
I'm planning on going to phi sometime.
any tips for getting over there?
Pack supplies to help you stay warm.
Time to terrorize this chat
Btw do we know why marguerite end up on a reaper leviathan harvesting ressource from him?
Yes.
Help i am being terrorized by a shadow Leviathan
Then swim away
Its clipping through the map
In SN1 the Deep Grand Reef Degasi logs explain why.
Cool
🧐
