below-zero-chat

[somber turtle]

🚅

[deep kettle]

I have Below Zero yes.

[coarse sparrow]

@vocal roost get in the hype train

[coarse sparrow]

ok

[crimson chasm]

I believe this is the real time fo when it drops

[somber turtle]

rewatching every trailer and ghilathiss' (one of the biggest polish youtubers that plays subnautica) video. he has over 140 of these on the first game.

to fire up the hype

[vocal roost]

yo

[somber turtle]

and to get probably disappointed with the ending like with cyberpunk

[coarse sparrow]

yo

[somber turtle]

still hyped af tho

[coarse sparrow]

yes

adwre also got the game

[somber turtle]

i got the game a year ago

the ending will be either great or a disappointment

[coarse sparrow]

i got a week ago

[coarse sparrow]

yes

[somber turtle]

probably the former

[coarse sparrow]

i dont know the story so i dont know what the ending will be

[bold monolith]

You should avoid this channel then.

[somber turtle]

||Haha sister go dead
Haha alien go in head
Haha alien body go built
Haha ending go locked||

[bold monolith]

Because when it will drop, there will be a lot of picture directly.

[coarse sparrow]

yeah but no one talks abt story they only talk abt release an gameplay

[crimson chasm]

You might not be allowed to answer, but what do you think of the ending?

[coarse sparrow]

i will mute it

[west tartan]

Sorry to repost it, but I want to know before I buy it

[coarse sparrow]

yes

it is available

[west tartan]

Now or in the futur ? Because I don't find it

[coarse sparrow]

you cant find it

[nova walrus]

2 hours to release!

[crimson chasm]

Nope, 18

[nova walrus]

oh..

[bold monolith]

Now.

[somber turtle]

actually, 11 and a half

[crimson chasm]

18 and 20 minutes

[nova walrus]

11:17:00 or 02:16:00

[coarse sparrow]

i also cant find it
where it gone???

[crimson chasm]

The timer rn

[coarse sparrow]

this is acurrate

[somber turtle]

this is releasing on midnight bst which is in about 12 hours

[coarse sparrow]

it should release at 11pm for me

[crimson chasm]

The timer is glitched on there

[coarse sparrow]

this is glitched

[bold monolith]

Wow, I just saw a ghost typing.

[nova walrus]

dang it

[wintry bone]

video games are the reason why we should eradicate all timezones and create one, unified timezone

[coarse sparrow]

yess

[somber turtle]

i do agree

[wintry bone]

also yes ignis but i am merely passing through on my way to the other side

[bold monolith]

I see.

[somber turtle]

EGT
Epic
Gamer
Time

[nova walrus]

so 11 hours?

[coarse sparrow]

yes

[nova walrus]

awesome

[crimson chasm]

Should be 18

Idk

[west tartan]

The release is on American hours ?

[nova walrus]

[crimson chasm]

https://www.watchisup.com/countdown/videogames/subnautica-subnautica-below-zero-double-pack-br-release-date-2021-05-14-00-00

Subnautica BZ countdown

[nova walrus]

im confused

[deep kettle]

Everyone is confused, don't worry xD

[crimson chasm]

Same xd

[somber turtle]

so WHEN exactly does it get out

[crimson chasm]

The link I sent. I think that’s accurate

[deep kettle]

That's a good question, I've asked one of the devs again because these timers I keep seeing are so wildly off every time.

[nova walrus]

guys it just releases three times

in 2, 11 and 18 hours

[coarse dock]

unlucky you

[somber turtle]

it's three day 1 patches

[coarse dock]

Hi Thom

[nova walrus]

Thom is a great guy

[somber turtle]

Alright so it just never releases

[nova walrus]

no it releases three times

[coarse dock]

so can you play BZ on steam?

[deep kettle]

It will release, but the consoles timers are just all over the place. So I'm not going to throw around dates for now lol.

[mighty tendon]

surely the only correct time is the subnautica one

[toxic furnace]

does anyone know in how many hours I will be available subnautica below zero?

[mighty tendon]

https://unknownworlds.com/subnautica/below-zero-launch-livestream/

[somber turtle]

it's just 3 day one patches

[somber turtle]

it releases before this stream

[nova walrus]

its pretty cool that bz is actually releasing very soon

[mighty tendon]

oh

[west tartan]

Tell me if you find out how to buy it, I'm a taker

[bold monolith]

It should come back, it might be related to some last minute issue: https://favro.com/organization/35200a08dbbad85b26102638/0d9378db42299691bb14c708?card=Unk-13392.

[tender willow]

I wonder if they fixed the propulsion cannon dupe glitch

[bold monolith]

It is.

[tender willow]

I'll test it out right when it releases

reported it already tho

[mighty tendon]

im rly hoping the "clipp trought the ground when you jump from to high" is gonna be gone :p

[bold monolith]

This issue is hardware related.

Your computer doesn't generate the collisions quickly enough.

[mighty tendon]

oh ok

well then, thats an oof on me

[bold monolith]

Collisions are generated in the first clipmap level only, which means they exist in a bubble around the player. And they're generated in this bubble when you move.

[somber turtle]

release hype anyone?
the game releases 3 times lol

[bold monolith]

So if you move too fast, your computer might not follow.

[twilit plaza]

Interesting way to blame hardware there :P

[bold monolith]

It's a fact.

[twilit plaza]

Lol

"It's programmed this way, so your hardware is at fault"

[somber turtle]

HYPE

OVERLOAD

[bold monolith]

What else do you propose? Making the collisions in other levels? Your FPS would drop directly.

[mighty hazel]

If it wasn't programmed this way, your hardware would suck even greater tbf

That's just being efficient

[mighty tendon]

well since terraforming isnt a thing i dont see why collision with the ground has to be loaded

and that cant just be a permanent wall like we have the wall at the end, that thing is unbreakable so why not have that for all of the seafloor

[twilit plaza]

I'm not saying I have the solution, just that saying this is hardware related is factually wrong. Saying "it works on this other hardware" (or even "it works on most other hardware") does not make a thing the fault of hardware

[bold monolith]

Blame the tech then. Not the code.

[twilit plaza]

It's more like "the choice was made to program it this way because that's most efficient for most hardware, you're just out of luck" ;)

[mighty hazel]

this issue arises if you fall from a great heght at high speed, something you won't see in regular gameplay

[twilit plaza]

Lol ok man, agree to disagree I guess, I'm going back to SN chat, was just checking here to see if there was an actual release time yet

[mighty tendon]

I just find it extremely weird how I dont have this problem in subnautica but suddenly in below zero it is one and my hardware is to blame? yea makes sense

[bold monolith]

This issue is on Subnautica as well, it's the same tech.

[mighty tendon]

hey man im just letting you know what my experiences are, when jumping from surface into the blood kelp in SN I have never had any problems yet in below zero i cant even jump of the big round leviathan tree without going trough the floor. Take from it what you want and blame my hardware if you think thats the problem but I just beg to differ

[bold monolith]

You can differ, but I don't have your issue. So where is the problem if it isn't hardware related?

[mighty tendon]

im still loving this game and gonna spend half a thousand hours on it

just maybe a couple of those hours stuck underground cause the game made it able to collide with the floor

[bold monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/406833970118918151/841438751136677908/out_of_bounds.mp4

[safe sun]

Always amuses me when someone tries to tell a prominent playtester they're wrong about the game's code.

[somber turtle]

i ate a tuna sandwich recently
LMAO

[stable summit]

I bought bz on ps4 and it says I can play it in 11:40hrs it changes to 1:40hrs when I click sooo when will I be able to start?

[mighty tendon]

check back in 1 hour and 40 minutes, that should answer it I think

[stable summit]

:(

Sad noises

[somber turtle]

https://www.igdb.com/games/subnautica-below-zero/countdown

[stable summit]

👀

[fast meadow]

I'll be honest... nope. Game just doesn't do it for me. Keen to get the release so I can finish the story but that's it 😦

[crystal path]

assuming PC full release will release same time as the rest?

[somber turtle]

yes

it has been confirmed it will be that way

now we play the waiting game

[clever plaza]

So about the countdown being confusing...? Can I play it in 1h 28min or not? I'm confused hehe

[somber turtle]

in 11h 28min
the countdown is glitched

11 hours 28 minutes on every platform

[clever plaza]

🥲 I'll have to play it tomorrow morning, sad noises

[somber turtle]

it's the first time i ever was waiting for a game to release

[clever plaza]

Same

I have never pre-order a game so I'm very exited

[somber turtle]

time goes so freaking slow

https://www.igdb.com/games/subnautica-below-zero/countdown

[clever plaza]

Yhh :( I was excited to being able to play in 1h 30min but I guess PS4 plays with my feelings

[polar edge]

Yes it does

[serene wagon]

Hey everybody if below zero full release is out ill stream in immediately! I am just a beginner streamer with 300+ followers but still I hope you guys are hyped is I am.

[sleek zenith]

no spoilers but i gotta say i think sea truck > sea moth hands down

[late cradle]

we play the game from January 2019.... with all bad and good thing

[serene wagon]

yea i bought it in 2020 i think

or 2019 as swell idk

i bought subnautica on 2017 damm long ago

but below zero it is 2019 cant find it tough because someone gifted me it

[late cradle]

will be full release funny like first release ???? 😆

[serene wagon]

i hope XD

[late cradle]

on first release steam fail 😆

[serene wagon]

i know XD

[digital marten]

good morning

[serene wagon]

subnuatica: a yes stream. Twitch: no

[digital marten]

I just want to say here how exited I am for tomorrow

I've been waiting this day for a long time

[serene wagon]

(for me its 1 PM) but good morning!

[serene wagon]

same

[late cradle]

13.06 here...

[digital marten]

wow, where do you live in?

[serene wagon]

netherlands

[somber turtle]

me too

[late cradle]

morning

[digital marten]

explained

I'm from Brazil

[serene wagon]

nice place

my place is like summer no winter no rain while the sun is shining yes

[digital marten]

I have my judgements, but the it is a nice place indeed

[digital marten]

where I live is wheter sunny and raining or sunny and dry

there is no cold

[serene wagon]

yea our contry its just like warm cold warm cold etc

on the same day

[tranquil cedar]

Wait did it already release for pc? can we play the ending now?

[digital marten]

maybe for a month or two, but it doesn't get much different from what I said

[serene wagon]

below zero you mean?

[tranquil cedar]

Where do you look for when you bought it?

[tranquil cedar]

yeah the countdown shows only for xbox and ps

[serene wagon]

payment history on steam

[serene wagon]

idk why but i got e feeling that is subnuatica

[jovial tiger]

So uh 3 hours to playable

But there's a problem

When I exit the timer it says 17 hours on the game

[serene wagon]

damm

[tranquil cedar]

Is 9:44 hours for pc right?

[serene wagon]

idk

[jovial tiger]

But if it's telling me it's playable

Is it?

[serene wagon]

do you mean just playable or downloading time

cuz i can still play it

on pc then

[jovial tiger]

Look at the picture that has playable

[serene wagon]

strange

[jovial tiger]

Maybe it is playable?

[serene wagon]

here im just in my drop pod

[jovial tiger]

I need to speak to donya

[burnt gate]

then do it

[serene wagon]

XD

just that reaction

[tranquil cedar]

https://thomdemeulder.github.io/

I use this is this wrong?

[serene wagon]

is it posable to get in contact with the devs?

[burnt gate]

it is possible but not recommended

[late cradle]

click on game and support

[oblique sparrow]

help im higly confused

[tranquil cedar]

found it

[serene wagon]

?

[oblique sparrow]

on my ps4
when i press on subnautica it says
playeble : 1 hour
when im on my home screen it says 11 hours

[jovial tiger]

Well okay I just got off a dm with donya

[late cradle]

11

[oblique sparrow]

oke thanks

[jovial tiger]

The playable timer is fake

[serene wagon]

nice

[jovial tiger]

Of course Friday is release

So uh

Pull a all nighter or something

For what donya said to me I guess all releases 12 AM

[late cradle]

preorder 😋

[burnt gate]

at our respective time zones

[digital marten]

I just hope I won't have to spend an entire day looking for copper

[serene wagon]

i hope that wont happen to my stream

[meager haven]

So it is playable after 15 min?

[rancid spear]

Is someone know how to repair my achievements on steam ? Maybe the game reinstallation would do a job ?

[deep kettle]

From what I was told it shouldn't actually go live yet, but we'll see I guess.

[deep kettle]

Repair your achievements?

[rancid spear]

Yea i mean i don't get any

For like 6 months

[deep kettle]

Did you use any console commands during that run?

[serene wagon]

on pc you can just game but not the release yet

[meager haven]

aa okei thx

[rancid spear]

Yea, i used freecam

[deep kettle]

Console commands disable achievements.

[meager haven]

there is the problem xD

[rancid spear]

Ah

[burnt gate]

that’s your problem then

[rancid spear]

Smart lol

Thanks for help

[deep kettle]

👍

[bold monolith]

If freecam is your only console command, maybe we can fix it.

[meager haven]

but the release is supposed to go live on 00:00 right?

[burnt gate]

which one

[meager haven]

below zero on ps

[burnt gate]

yes

[rancid spear]

I'm not sure if i also didn't use command to get frozen leviathan enzyme

[meager haven]

hmm alright maby i can play it in 11 min

[low cedar]

What's ur timezone

[meager haven]

CET

[low cedar]

Hmm, you shouldn't be able to play it yet

[meager haven]

i will know in 1 min hahah

:((

[woven cosmos]

It works on xbox rn

[meager haven]

not on ps5

[woven cosmos]

In new zealand

[meager haven]

timer is at 10 hours now

[low cedar]

I think Xbox is the only console where you can change your time zone to play pre orders

[burnt gate]

it’s because that wasn’t the actual time the release date was messed up

[meager haven]

yeah i tought so

[upbeat temple]

Yeah, we're not sure where the Playstation was pulling that timer from. It didn't match anything on our end at all.

[bold monolith]

It's midnight for you right, @woven cosmos?

[woven cosmos]

Nope

[burnt gate]

that’s the problem

[meager haven]

lucky u

[woven cosmos]

Changed xbox location

[bold monolith]

I see.

[low cedar]

Let me move to New Zealand real quick

[meager haven]

going to try that on ps to

[woven cosmos]

Ok bye imma play

[low cedar]

It won't work im pretty sure

[meager haven]

it says i need to make a new account so i wont do that

hmm ps seems to have some problems with this

[burnt gate]

^

[velvet osprey]

It's out

[carmine bobcat]

Is there other games that mention Alterra other than NS2 and Subnautica? Because I swear I was talking to my friend about this in 2019 and he said there is an easter egg in Below Zero that references that other game too, and no I can't remember the game we were talking about for the life of me

[plush barn]

Game out tomorrow?

[serene wagon]

yes

[nova walrus]

yea

[plush barn]

Yeet

[twilit plaza]

So is there an official time available for all platforms, now that you're here? ,-)

[half warren]

Lmao

[burnt gate]

12:00 pm on 13th

[upbeat temple]

Midnight, local time, Friday 14th.

So whenever midnight Friday is for you.

[twilit plaza]

Finally, thank you :)

[half warren]

Bet I’m staying up all night. Maybe

Friday the 14th aye

[carmine bobcat]

For me it says 11:30 13th May but I live in Australia (obviously)

[twilit plaza]

Gonna see if I can cancel my appointments now that that info is finally available :d

[serene wagon]

i cant wait to stream the full release

[half warren]

Ya know that’s a good idea lmao. Not like ima get any views lmfao

[carmine bobcat]

Which is in less than 2 hours

[serene wagon]

indeed XD

[half warren]

Well new game you never know right

It would be cool if it was multiplayer tho

[serene wagon]

yea maybe its ganna be a hit or not hwo knows

[velvet osprey]

It said I can play it but it said I've got 10 hours left

[half warren]

I think it will be. Twitch is pretty big with newer games I think

[serene wagon]

if it was multiplayer i think even more players want to but the game so thay can play with thier friends

[burnt gate]

it’s because that wasn’t the actual time the release date was messed up

[half warren]

Agreed. But then again doing multiplayer would take a lot of work to do

[serene wagon]

yea

[upbeat temple]

Okay, Gonna drop this in here to pin too. "We're aware that some people are seeing two separate timers on Playstation. One that is random and is counting down to a weird, unknown time, and another that is counting down to the correct time (12 AM, 00:00, midnight, Friday in your timezone). If you have a timer that expires earlier than that, the expected behavior is just that... that timer ends and nothing happens."

[serene wagon]

nice

[burnt gate]

you get em donya

[pastel terrace]

Why does BZ have to release in the middle of school

Not fair

[serene wagon]

i have vacation

[burnt gate]

you have school at midnight?

[pastel terrace]

It releases in 1 day 5 hours

There’s a stream timer link in announcements

[deep kettle]

@upbeat temple Might also want to post that in #below-zero-ps 😄

[upbeat temple]

It was posted there first and pinned lol

[burnt gate]

my image doesn’t work in there

[deep kettle]

Don't mind me

😂

[burnt gate]

you have been minded

[rose talon]

Damnit... I should have gotten below zero today but because it’s like woowoo special day today the mailman ain’t going around to deliver stuff so I have to wait for tomorrow:(

[torn barn]

[serene wagon]

lmao

[ornate field]

monke leviathan pls

[hexed latch]

are there any preorder bonuses?

[rose talon]

I wonder that too

anime skins

[pastel terrace]

No

[serene wagon]

i got an idea for subnuatica below zero and normal below zero

tool skin

[inland cave]

Subnautica Above 100°C

[rose talon]

Subnautica below zero and normal below zero

Yes

[pastel terrace]

New leviathan except it’s just a giant turtle and does absolutely nothing

[hexed latch]

wtf is normal below zero?

[rose talon]

Subnautica on earth where you get to swim in plastic soup

[serene wagon]

(subnuatica ssry)

[rose talon]

I think they meant normal Subnautica and below zero.

[pastel terrace]

Subnautica except instead of water it’s just melted cheese

[serene wagon]

Subnautica below zero and Subnautica

[hexed latch]

oh

[burnt gate]

cheesy

[rose talon]

Or just Co-op Subnautica

[still moss]

aight below zero comes out in a day

pog

[coarse sparrow]

warning loud⚠️
yep its glitching out

[normal mortar]

wait can we fully play the game now

[coarse sparrow]

noooooo

[normal mortar]

what why not

[coarse sparrow]

its not out yet

it will be out on 14

[normal mortar]

but it comes out today

[coarse sparrow]

14

[normal mortar]

dang

[burnt gate]

@safe sun theirs is how he did it

[safe sun]

I know, Snom.

[broken pasture]

It comes out in 11:59, technically it means it releases on friday but it's going to be so precise so everyone can play.

[burnt gate]

[broken pasture]

The only difference in timezones is like a couple minutes, some people are really desperate.

[pastel terrace]

Time zones have hour differences

[broken pasture]

Oh, right-

Still, why though? I know people wanna record the ending or just know it early but sometimes having to change your location because you're not satisfied with your timezone is kinda like the last straw.

[fiery hinge]

in below zero, do u get the Lightweight O2 tank blueprint when u have the Modification Station? or a blueprint u can find, i dont remember.

[velvet osprey]

Mines in 10h

[broken pasture]

I think it's an available Modification in the station but some other people said the Blueprint was on Delta Station.

[fiery hinge]

havend found it yet and played the till the end well asfar as possible, i do have a booster tank tho. is the Lightwieght even in the game?

[carmine bobcat]

gm yall

[coarse sparrow]

DID YOU GET IT

[mighty tendon]

@woven cosmos is that actually playable until the end?

[crimson chasm]

Gm

[wild field]

the timer just got extended by 7 hours for me

[broken pasture]

Which hour is in your timezone?

For me I gotta wait 12+ hours.

[burnt gate]

The Playstation timer was glitched in some places. If your timer showed that it expired before midnight local time on Friday the 14th, then it was incorrect. We still don't know where or why Playstation was pulling a random timer. from donya

[frozen dew]

cool

[wild field]

ill still be able to play it after midnight tho right?

[broken pasture]

Playstation Timer be like :

[burnt gate]

after midnight yes but not before

[wild field]

pog

[celest ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/fantastic-idea-sarcastic-steve-carell-fantastic-idea-gif-7717986

[broken pasture]

I got a dumb idea for a Mod.

Planet 4546B has clean waters, how about a mode that fills it with dirt so it's like Heck to explore?

[frozen dew]

all animals are cheese types

[broken pasture]

[quick breach]

I've tried to search but I can't find it. Was the release time and timezone mentioned anywhere?

[broken pasture]

Lemme explain:

It's 11:59 P.M.

BUT It will release earlier or leter depending on your timezone.

[frozen dew]

jpn and aus get it first

[quick breach]

That's what I'm asking, 11:59 in what Time Zone?

[broken pasture]

It means some people who's 11:59 is earlier get it first and you gotta wait for your timezone.

So the thing blocking you is the Timezone pre-installed into your console/PC.

[full anchor]

[broken pasture]

Ppl are so crazy to get it first they're using VPNs and chaging locations.

[frozen dew]

sad

[quick breach]

So then ti's 11:59 in all time zones (Or at 11:59 in each time zone)

[broken pasture]

Each.

[frozen dew]

i gotta wait til 830 pm cause thats when i normally stream games

[broken pasture]

If 11:59 in timezone a hits first they get the full game first. But if timezone b is later they gotta wait.

[frozen dew]

the only exception is the US

[broken pasture]

Why?

[frozen dew]

they said all timezones release at the same time based on EST

so 12am in NYC LA will get it 3 hours earlier

[broken pasture]

They won't release all at the same time, mainly cuz Stream delay.

So that's why the stores have countdowns.

[woven cosmos]

@mighty tendon idk yet

[frozen dew]

instn the stream at 1 pm on friday

[sinful nest]

Yeah should can play the Game at 2 PM but no i still should wait 9 more hours thanks ...

[woven cosmos]

Game is very good so far

[quick breach]

It's way more chill than Subnautica

The soundtrack is a masterpiece

[safe shell]

crystal caves music is terrifying

[green hearth]

the game won't let me enter that part from the place where AL-AN told me to go. Is this bc the game is not finished?

[quick breach]

most probably

[fathom marsh]

area near outpost zero is for the very ending - available only after release

[green hearth]

welp good thing i have to wait only a day

[quick breach]

I'll start a fresh new game when Full version releases. I want to experience it with all Text & Descriptions in place

[fathom marsh]

i'm waiting for 5th month

[reef lichen]

Anyone know what else is coming out other than the ending?

[quick breach]

There were to many PlaceHolders in EA

[fathom marsh]

more bugfixes

[fathom marsh]

no, there's pretty much none

[green hearth]

i guess i can do that too but ima see the end on my current world

[fathom marsh]

they are in place for 3 month already

*at least

[quick breach]

Oh, good to know

[fathom marsh]

yeah, update ur version

||or buy it already, haha||

[quick breach]

It updates automatically, but I haven't played since December

[fathom marsh]

well, yes

in feb we got a lot of VA and lore text filled

[reef lichen]

@green hearth how many hours have u spent on that world

[light vessel]

is there anyway to turn the communications tower off

cant put my processing unit in it

[wind minnow]

ahight

so

[frozen dew]

@light vessel save reload

[wind minnow]

i may or may not be playing sub below zero early on xbox

[reef lichen]

I’ve only spent 6 hours on below zero.... should I restart once the full game comes out or???

[frozen dew]

no why

saves are updated

[wind minnow]

im illegal

[fathom marsh]

i played for 40 hours - i wont restart my hardcore playthrough

[light vessel]

im assuming if ive went too far ill have to restart to fix it? cause ive saved/played more since i first turned it on only now realizing i need the processing unit for it

[reef lichen]

@frozen dew idk to see if there’s anything added at the beginning

[fathom marsh]

because there's no reason...

[reef lichen]

Oh okok

[frozen dew]

@light vessel no. just scan the required unlocks

[fathom marsh]

story is the same

[reef lichen]

I see I see

[light vessel]

i have the unit but i cant put it in the communications tower, and im assuming i cant put it in cause the towers already on

[frozen dew]

no the point is for u to turn it off

[frozen dew]

so try saving and reloading

[tacit escarp]

Great pic 10/10

[wind minnow]

Yes

[frozen dew]

@wind minnow if youre playing on xbox. how do you have 3 save files

[wind minnow]

i dont

those are the modes

[reef lichen]

Are there stories on land? Besides underwater looking for artifacts 😂

[frozen dew]

entire map is used

[reef lichen]

👍🏻👍🏻

[wind minnow]

creative survival hardocre and wich is the fourth one?

[tacit escarp]

So does vpn work to make u play the finished version faster

[deep kettle]

freedom.

[coarse sparrow]

freedom

[wind minnow]

i can show proof on call

[frozen dew]

@wind minnow so u live in austrilia area

[carmine bobcat]

14 1/2 hours left to release

[wind minnow]

nah

just changed timezones and location

[frozen dew]

ofcourse

[coarse sparrow]

he changed it to australia

[frozen dew]

and he earns a block

[wind minnow]

i do?

nice

ah yes choppy as the old sub

[warm valley]

cant believe only 14 hrs left

[carmine bobcat]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[green hearth]

sry 4 replying late but i think it was a day and some minutes

[karmic spade]

not sure if this is for bug smash or what not - but this latest patch is having installation issues - Steam currently says MORE THAN A YEAR to install it. lol

[sand sky]

installed fine for me earlier

[deep kettle]

That's a Steam issue.

[karmic spade]

Hrm.... steam is wonking out then. never seen this before

[deep kettle]

I've had that before with other games as well.

[frozen dew]

the servers are being used for release in regions i take it

[karmic spade]

Yeah i suppose - i am in Jamaica afterall

I'm in Jamaica wanting to play subnautica. lol. 4546B is more interesting than real life.

[wispy mica]

hey so
i havent played in a bit and wanted to ask a question about something

||Is one of AL-AN´s body parts in the arctic spires||

[frozen dew]

yes all areas are used

[wispy mica]

i think i remember it eing there

[frozen dew]

u cannot skip any area

[wispy mica]

oh good

thank you

[karmic spade]

yes, a nice upgrade from Subnautica, which had like 2 biomes you didnt ever need to visit

[misty flint]

Hey anyone know the exact timezone and time of release?

I live in Australia and it's the 14th in 16 minutes xdd

[frozen dew]

its all local time

[misty flint]

OHHH

[velvet osprey]

Mines in 9h

[frozen dew]

friday your 12 am

if you live in aus or jpn etc. you can play it now. or you cheat. changing your timezone

[misty flint]

wouldn't you just get a VPN then?

[frozen dew]

thats what people do

[misty flint]

To get it quicker

[wind minnow]

you on xbox?

god the building is fun

[quick breach]

How big is the ending, is it alt least a couple of hours?

[misty flint]

Well sweet man. Thanks for letting me know!

I can't wait to start playing

[wind minnow]

im not here to spoiler dw

[frozen dew]

@quick breach no one knows

[tawny turret]

does anyone know the release of BZ in Australia?

[frozen dew]

its alreayd out

[tawny turret]

for the switch

[frozen dew]

doesnt all console versions release on the same day?

[safe sun]

12am local time.

[urban root]

Has Bz dropped yet for Xbox

[tawny turret]

yes but in the store i go to its telling me it is releasing tomorrow

[unkempt mulch]

Hey, if I start a world today, would I be able to play the end when it releases ? Like the original one that you would be able to play till the end but needed to wait for the ending release

[frozen dew]

if youre in aus or JPN timezone, yes

yes

[tawny turret]

so tomorrow is when it releases yes?

[frozen dew]

@tawny turret that doesnt make sense. cause it is the 14th in aus

[tawny turret]

not at the moment

its 7 mins till its the 14th

[frozen dew]

than wait 7 mins

[tawny turret]

ok ill be back then

after i watch the discord birthday thing

[wind minnow]

its out on new zeland

[unkempt mulch]

Proud of saying that I bought the game the same day it released Early Acess

[wind minnow]

nice

[coarse sparrow]

gool

[pale marsh]

Hey, I’m trying to convince myself to finish below zero

Could someone tell me, without any spoilers about what it is, whether there’s anything deeper and more interesting than the

|| reapers cave||

[tawny turret]

alright im back its the 14th now

[coarse sparrow]

really

[tawny turret]

yep

[unkempt mulch]

hackerman

[wind minnow]

yee

[clever plaza]

So the countdown thing on PS4 was wrong right? It is still unplayable right?

[fringe halo]

just made my prawn suit

[coarse sparrow]

gool i wish i could play 5 hrs left for me

[wind minnow]

nice

[green hearth]

well there is only 1 countdown cuz i haven't heard about the PS4 one

[clever plaza]

The PS4 one was glitched and said that it was playable 2hs ago

[wind minnow]

im making my first sea truck

[green hearth]

so this is the release countdown right?

[clever plaza]

I guess it was just a visual bug

[wind minnow]

and modules

[coarse sparrow]

no

[green hearth]

huh?

[frozen dew]

yes the time is correct. it release 12am LOCAL time

[coarse sparrow]

i think yes

sorry

[green hearth]

oh k

[green hearth]

i see this is the livestream countdown so it must also be the release one cuz idk why they would go live

[carmine bobcat]

Question

[coarse sparrow]

i thought it was wrong cause when the time will be over it would not be 14 for me

[wind minnow]

i would love some new music there are a lot of nerdout and that other guys music

[carmine bobcat]

Is below zero a prequel or a sequel????

[coarse sparrow]

sequel

[wind minnow]

sequel

[coarse sparrow]

2 years ahead

[carmine bobcat]

Ahh okay thanks I saw something that confused me

[kindred crow]

will the update that ends early access drop 1am cest?

[wind minnow]

dont like the new pda sound

[frozen dew]

all times are local

[green hearth]

makes me wondering if it's the last update ever

[frozen dew]

game gets patches

[wind minnow]

and new updates?

[misty flint]

Where did you actually find where It says this?

[coarse sparrow]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh man i hate it i absolutely hate it!!!

[frozen dew]

all the clocks hitting 12 am their timezones

[kindred crow]

why would it release at different times for different people

whats the point

[wind minnow]

yeah

[carmine bobcat]

i need to play this right now

[wind minnow]

you on xbox

[frozen dew]

because its friday 12 am in area like aus and japan

[kindred crow]

so if I change my region to australia

[carmine bobcat]

Does below zero release on all consoles at 12 am??? Or like do timezones play in?

[kindred crow]

I can play?

[frozen dew]

yes u can cheat it that way

[kindred crow]

can I just change my region easily?

[wind minnow]

yeah

[frozen dew]

im assuming u ahve to use a vpn

[misty flint]

I'm in Australia and I see no sign of the game updating in steam

[kindred crow]

is it friday there yet

[coarse sparrow]

yes it is friday

[tawny turret]

its friday yes

[misty flint]

Yep, 14th 12:12am Friday

[tawny turret]

im picking it up later today

[carmine bobcat]

dd/mm/yyyy ugh so backwards

Like no matter where you are does it release at 12 am for you???

[tawny turret]

well thats how we do it in australia

[frozen dew]

thats what the timers show

[carmine bobcat]

Can't sort files chronologically that way

[ivory condor]

[pretty sure

australia can do it now i believe

[tawny turret]

you know there are people outside of america that do fine without your godamn ways of doing crap

[carmine bobcat]

im not in America, cheers.

[carmine bobcat]

The timer on my Xbox says it releases at 9:00pm today for me

[misty flint]

Well are you sure it's released local time? I just don't see anywhere where it officially says that. Where'd you get that info from @frozen dew?

[ivory condor]

me and the bois be going to the other side of the world to play subnautica

[ivory condor]

thats glitched mate

its always 12 am friday

[meager yarrow]

wooooooo

[carmine bobcat]

Heckin hecker

[tawny turret]

just give it a bit and im sure it will be good

[frozen dew]

@misty flint one person here on there xbox used a vpn and is playing the game now

[meager yarrow]

below zero releases tomorrow

[ivory condor]

wtf how do you get a vpn on console

[carmine bobcat]

So some people will get below zero earlier than others???

[misty flint]

I'm on Pc, would at change it? I'm just not getting any updates

[ivory condor]

pretty sure thats impossible

[frozen dew]

he also changed the timezone on the console

[tawny turret]

well ill be back later on today to ask for help if i get stuck on BZ as i havent spoiled Much for myself

so im going in partially blind

[ivory condor]

subnautica is the game we wish we could all experience for the first time again

[tawny turret]

definitely

lets hope the subnautica dev team CAN count to 3 and make a 3rd game in the series

[carmine bobcat]

hopefully they started already. dont want to play beta another 3 years

[tawny turret]

patience is a virtue

[carmine bobcat]

cant win em all

[trim loom]

it will happen if below zero sells well,i saw that from i think one of the devs

[carmine bobcat]

I want to meet the reaper for the first time again

[tawny turret]

so they are still deciding then

[kindred crow]

if I start playing now and update tomorrow will I miss something crucial

final update just includes the ending right?

I won't get there in a day

[frozen dew]

jsut ending

[tawny turret]

subnautica BZ has been really hyped up these last few weeks ngl

so its hard to see it not sell well

[carmine bobcat]

Starting!!!

[random pine]

40 minutes till realease!

for me

est

[tawny turret]

im gonna go because i dont want spoilers

[ivory condor]

glitched

[true oracle]

anyone know the release time on epic games store?

[random pine]

no on ps4 est

[ivory condor]

if its est then glitched

[coarse sparrow]

glitched

[misty flint]

Idk dude, it's apparently released for me now but steams not updating it

[ivory condor]

it released on 12 am est and all other times

[random pine]

im in canada i dont know if that makes a difference

[tacit escarp]

Maple syrup

[random pine]

for me its 10:21

[random pine]

thats offensive

[carmine bobcat]

Anyone that either has already played or is now starting, don't spoil it for those waiting

[random pine]

but fair cuz i love it

[carmine bobcat]

38 mins till I can play the game, I’m so hyped

[random pine]

maple serup is best in winter cuz you put it in nthe snow and you can roll it on a stick and eat it

[broken pasture]

Using a VPN to get a game can be illegal.

[crude kite]

The channel’s description literally says Warning - Spoilers

[random pine]

38 minutes for me to?

[carmine bobcat]

laws, shmaws!

[floral bay]

is it launching then?

[random pine]

i meant !

[carmine bobcat]

Yea ya got that right

[random pine]

anyone else from canada?

[floral bay]

isnt it launching tomorrow

[random pine]

no

[carmine bobcat]

No that depends on where you are and time zone

[random pine]

hello

[floral bay]

Where are u

[random pine]

is that poland

i cant tell

[carmine bobcat]

Good old Canada Alberta

[deep kettle]

@carmine bobcat Stop with the emojis please

[carmine bobcat]

ok

[random pine]

alberta? whats it like there

[ivory condor]

my god thats alot

[random pine]

im in ottawa

[carmine bobcat]

You asking about the weather or ...

[wind minnow]

i somehow managed to make the best bathroom by accident

[carmine bobcat]

Temperature

[floral bay]

im in childhood obesity land

[random pine]

yes

[carmine bobcat]

Freezing during the winter and warm as a greenhouse durning summer

[solid cypress]

any reason to not start playing the steam EA version?

[random pine]

nice. same here exept wrmer in winter

[solid cypress]

should i wait till midnight?

[ivory condor]

pc beng trash

[random pine]

i meant summer

[ivory condor]

and not bein able to handle

[carmine bobcat]

Well, where about to get a snow game so it’ll be just like home

They really need to fix the document option on penglings

[random pine]

still getting snow there?

seriously

[carmine bobcat]

No, it’s spring right now

[random pine]

whats a snow game then

[carmine bobcat]

I’m taking about below zero

[random pine]

below zero?

[carmine bobcat]

Yea

[random pine]

ohh yea me to

its at 30 mins

anyway cya

[coarse sparrow]

glitched

[misty flint]

Hey is the local release on xbox only? or on steam as well?

[solid cypress]

huh?

[carmine bobcat]

Wrong it ain’t it depends on time zones

[ivory condor]

cant run subnautica if pc is trash

[coarse sparrow]

is it 12 for him?

[carmine bobcat]

Right now best guess could be somewhere In the morning for him like me right now it’s 8:33 and the game will be out for me at 9:00

[solid cypress]

oh, PC being trash. thought you meant pc version being trash

so i guess i should start then

unless there are changes to early game in the final release

[ivory condor]

prob

u should wait

thats a good choice

the ending cant be spoiled yet

[coarse sparrow]

no changes

only ending and bug fixes

[solid cypress]

❤️

[frozen dew]

it techincally could. if u have it on pc and than just use commands to start the ending missions

[coarse sparrow]

np

[coarse sparrow]

gool gool

[ivory condor]

it depends if they allow that.

[frozen dew]

so someone could jsut do the ending right at the start. or people who are all ready to play the ending

the ending will be up on yt in 10 minutes of 12 am lol

[ivory condor]

depends if they allow that

[distant galleon]

how many hours until below zero launches?

[ivory condor]

tru

[frozen dew]

theres always that person who has to have it out right away

[carmine bobcat]

Depends on ya time zone

[mighty hazel]

i thought the release was simultaneous for all timezones, no?

[coarse sparrow]

it is

[kindred crow]

is the only thing the final update adds the ending?

[mighty hazel]

that means how many hours remain doesn't depend on the timezone then

[coarse sparrow]

see

i did not ping her

[kindred crow]

nothing else changes?

[mighty hazel]

no need for that but ok

[coarse sparrow]

no

[mighty hazel]

some last minute fixes too

[coarse sparrow]

only bugs will be smashed

[kindred crow]

so if I play right now I'm good considering I won't get close to the ending?

[mighty hazel]

yep

[kindred crow]

alright great

thanks

[tranquil agate]

so

[frozen dew]

theyre still fixing bugs as we speak

[tranquil agate]

which timezone will it release

[mystic oracle]

is below zero story done

[coarse sparrow]

yes

[frozen dew]

waiting on ending

[tranquil agate]

yup

they smashing bugs like bugs

[coarse sparrow]

see
i did not ping her

[mystic oracle]

oh so the ending will be shown tomorrow?

[tranquil agate]

omg RAIN came in the correct time lol

[coarse sparrow]

yes

[mystic oracle]

thats cool

[coarse sparrow]

gool gool

[mystic oracle]

cant wait to see what it will be

[coarse sparrow]

yeah gool

[tranquil agate]

so it releases tommrrow

like its may 13 here

[frozen dew]

then yes

[tranquil agate]

4 hours left

[mystic oracle]

it says 26 hours left here

[tranquil agate]

oh

[carmine bobcat]

I’m pretty sure it’s may 13 for everyone

[tranquil agate]

um

[coarse sparrow]

yes

[carmine bobcat]

Lol, that’s gotta be killer if you gotta wait that long

Yes

[tranquil agate]

its may 13 here

[carmine bobcat]

Also another question

[tranquil agate]

so may 14

[ivory condor]

12 am

[mystic oracle]

at least for me it shows may 14

7pm

[ivory condor]

may 14 12 am

[misty flint]

I'm in Australia rn fellas. It's 12:43 am Friday the 14th
Nothing has happened (Im on steam)

[ivory condor]

moment it turns 12 am tonight

[mystic oracle]

depending on everyone's timezone

[carmine bobcat]

So I preordered below zero for my Xbox and it already finished installing... when it’s actually released will I have to install more stuff?????

[ivory condor]

yyes

[tranquil agate]

they are gonna do it in maybe 2 or 4 hours maybe

[carmine bobcat]

Mother hecker

[ivory condor]

ithink

[woeful wagon]

Can’t wait for tomorrow placed a preorder and I’m so hyped

[carmine bobcat]

Same man

[tranquil agate]

2 more hours till the launch live stream

or

yes 2 more hours

atleast for here

[mortal imp]

The stream istomorrow

[tranquil agate]

uhh

yea timezones

[mortal imp]

They will do the stream when it's the 14th of may where they are. Which is tomorrow

[solid cypress]

why not use UTC? 😄

timezones are for presentation, not coordination

[mortal imp]

They are using UTC, May 14th 5PM UTC

[carmine bobcat]

remember when the seatruck moved around like a lizards tail upon being detached

[misty flint]

Is local time of release on all platforms? In on steam and nothing is happening rn'

[serene wagon]

#time travel

[carmine bobcat]

it wont release until the timer is done

your timezone is way ahead of theirs

[misty flint]

where's the timer?

[carmine bobcat]

let me grab it

[misty flint]

:D

[carmine bobcat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dF3yh3aMV4

there you go

[coarse sparrow]

anybody want to see what happens if the fake timer runs out? i have video evidence

[final palm]

Should I get it guys?

[coarse sparrow]

yyyyyyyeeesssssssss

[carmine bobcat]

yesss

[final palm]

Alright.

Can someone name me pro’s and con’s?

[misty flint]

oh so 26 hours from now 😢
The way everyone is speaking in chat made it sound like I could play it now since it's the 14th in my timezone

[honest smelt]

Pro: If you get it you can play it. Com: If you don't get it, you can't play it.

[carmine bobcat]

Modding wont be as easy on PS4

[final palm]

Oh I don’t need mods

I heard the base making is INSANE

[carmine bobcat]

then it doesnt matter

[final palm]

Is there creative mod aswell?

[honest smelt]

I always do PC gaming. I can't say if console is better or worse or same

[carmine bobcat]

creative comes with the game

[final palm]

Freedom and hardcore?

[carmine bobcat]

four gamemodes, Creative, Freedom, Hardcore and Survival

[honest smelt]

If you played the original I it should have at least those modes.

[final palm]

It’s a approved for me.

[carmine bobcat]

It is

[final palm]

I’ll text my dad and hope he approves of my decision.

[warm valley]

you never played subnautica?!

very good game mate

[final palm]

I have!

[carmine bobcat]

however if you dont want spoilers dont play creative til you finish the game

[final palm]

I LOVED the first one

I’m only gonna do creative for base building

Just cuz I wanna see what that’s like.

[carmine bobcat]

i was an idiot and completely ruined my subnautica experience

[ivory condor]

eah new base building exists i think

[final palm]

I have seen that the multipurpose room is massive

[carmine bobcat]

Its so big

honestly the round domes were making me go insane

[ivory condor]

for me i only spoiled what the vehicles were i was bored

[final palm]

Will it spoil the entire story if I go in creative and make a cool base?

[carmine bobcat]

dang i wish, i decided to look at the ending and everything

[carmine bobcat]

no

[ivory condor]

||oh those exist, they just added a long room||

[carmine bobcat]

but now my main room isnt a tiny dome

[ivory condor]

it would spoil the beggining im pretty sure

[carmine bobcat]

i think it starts a bit before that

[ivory condor]

ye long rooms are sick, but the multipurpose rooms are very useful

[honest smelt]

I provided feedback early in beta but after they revamped the story months ago I stopped to preserve my own first playthrough enjoyment.

[ivory condor]

the long rooms are probably very expensive

[mortal imp]

Nope since the story is disabled on creative

[coarse sparrow]

plasteel ingot

[carmine bobcat]

only two plasteel ingots

[ivory condor]

oh bruh

[carmine bobcat]

all you need is four lithium and 10 titanium

[ivory condor]

i havent seen yet

[carmine bobcat]

oh my bad

[ivory condor]

in the originial finding lithium early game is hell

[carmine bobcat]

its really easy in bz

[coarse sparrow]

in this its easy

[ivory condor]

good

[coarse sparrow]

gool

[ivory condor]

they fixed the pop up issues on console right?

[carmine bobcat]

one of the biomes close to the pod is filled with it

[ivory condor]

thats good

[carmine bobcat]

i have yet to find the rectangle room glass roof

[ivory condor]

yeah the glass roofs seam cool

[carmine bobcat]

it makes every room feel so much more open

[coarse sparrow]

yes

[carmine bobcat]

i used it on my lifepod base before moving to the twisty bridges

[ivory condor]

but

real question is, can you stack long rooms like you can with multipurpose rooms?

[coarse sparrow]

stay away from UK and India

[carmine bobcat]

uh.. okay?

[coarse sparrow]

or else they will drink you

they are tea lovers

[carmine bobcat]

i think so, however i havent tested so

[coarse sparrow]

yes

yes you can

[carmine bobcat]

coming from logic, im saying yes

[coarse sparrow]

you can stack

[carmine bobcat]

thought so

[coarse sparrow]

them

[ivory condor]

already thought of my bz base now

L O N G R O O F S T A C K

[carmine bobcat]

Yes

[coarse sparrow]

gool

[carmine bobcat]

At least 4 floors from what I know

the real question is, can we stack them out of the water like in subnautica

[coarse sparrow]

yes

[carmine bobcat]

i remember trying to cover the entire map in platforms

[ivory condor]

lol thats relatable

[carmine bobcat]

hi

i got tired of it being just water

[fervent ridge]

I'm so confused, some people are streaming below zero right now - did the game launch early? Steam doesn't seem to be updated.

[carmine bobcat]

early access

[carmine bobcat]

pc players

[ivory condor]

i have a base with multipurpose rooms with like a dozen solar panels on it

[carmine bobcat]

oh my god solar panels, im gonna have to move like 20 once i get the glass roof

[ivory condor]

stando powah

sola powah, the stando powah of the stando

[frozen dew]

well its always best to have the pannels at the surface

[ivory condor]

[carmine bobcat]

my base is like 20m under water

[honest smelt]

The store page says 5/14//21 at the end of the video. I put the same date in my calendar after getting an email or something a while ago. I'm on EST zone.

[frozen dew]

transmitters are your magic

[carmine bobcat]

i put a bunch on an iceberg and used repeaters to take it to my base

[ivory condor]

bruh tru

[fervent ridge]

yeah I was hoping it came out early so I could play after work

[ivory condor]

but bioreacter and thermal are ez power

[carmine bobcat]

i hate thermal

[vagrant plover]

Heyo

[carmine bobcat]

on pc u can play it alredy its jut missing the ending

stupid magnetite, ive only found three pieces so far

[ivory condor]

magnetite is cringe

[fervent ridge]

yeah, I'll just wait a day and play with the ending

[frozen dew]

most of it is on land

[carmine bobcat]

and it was in some lame iceberg

[ivory condor]

magnetite is cringe in both games

[carmine bobcat]

BRUH ITS ON LAND

[carmine bobcat]

fax

[honest smelt]

Well yeah. I've played it a bunch already. But it will be shiny new again in 24 hours or so.

[ivory condor]

like wtf they are so annoying to find in the originial

[carmine bobcat]

is the snowfox even worth getting

[ivory condor]

yes prob

[carmine bobcat]

idk

[ivory condor]

makes land travel soooooooo easy

[carmine bobcat]

i have yet to find marg

like im far away from land

or even make a snowfox

[remote garden]

I eventually found magnetite on land too. Before that I just abused sea monkeys and had them bring me magnetite

[carmine bobcat]

what

[ivory condor]

i know a server that censors "your mom"

[carmine bobcat]

is it possible to learn this power

[carmine bobcat]

yes

[ivory condor]

T E A C H M E T H E W A Y S

[carmine bobcat]

its kinda a spoiler

[remote garden]

on so once Alan is with you sea monkeys dont steal anymore and will being you some random crappy resources

[ivory condor]

i know hwta sea monke is

[carmine bobcat]

sea monke

[remote garden]

the thing is if you have a pinned blueprint they can get you some natural resources from it

[solid cypress]

do resources respawn, or am i slowly draining the surrounding area of ore and plants and stuff?

[carmine bobcat]

WHA

YOYOYOYOYOYOYO

[ivory condor]

they respawn if u relog i think

[remote garden]

pin the radar room chip recipe, it's a chip plus a magnetite

[carmine bobcat]

sea monke

[remote garden]

only thing they can bring for i then is magnetite most of the time

[carmine bobcat]

yoooo

abuse the system

[remote garden]

it's how I got mine for the longest time

[carmine bobcat]

its how im gonna do now too

[ivory condor]

when i realise i accidentaly just spoiled the whole subnautica game by watching two videos:

[remote garden]

if you have it in your inventory tehy wont give though so have someplace to stash it

[ivory condor]

true story

[carmine bobcat]

same

when bz started development i checked out concept art and ideas

[ivory condor]

not bz

only originial

im not mmaking same mistake for bz

[carmine bobcat]

thats what i did

[ivory condor]

all i know is that FUNNY LAND and FUNNY TRUCK SEA

[carmine bobcat]

same here

[ivory condor]

thats all i know lmao

[carmine bobcat]

yeah i stopped watching bz development once the framework was established

[quartz heart]

Just one more day, guys

[scenic storm]

yeah don't make the same mistake like me who thought you could play the story 2/3 months ago only to get bonked against an invisible wall at the end

[ivory condor]

lmao

[remote garden]

I just wish the headlamp was actually worth making 😦 Don't do like me, I had to roll back to a previous save because it wasn't worth wasting the ion battery. For some reason it replaces your rebreather

[carmine bobcat]

thats what i thought

there is some gold in the bucket of mud in tiktok cringe compilations on youtube

havent even touched it since i acquired the blueprint

[quartz heart]

Just build the recyclotron, lol

[ivory condor]

wha even is the headlamp

[carmine bobcat]

its a head lamp

[scenic storm]

can't wait to learn the end of this story tho, even if i already know 95%

[carmine bobcat]

im only like 25% into bz

[ivory condor]

im like

[carmine bobcat]

and god i love the new features

[ivory condor]

0%
into it

im waiting for the ps release

[carmine bobcat]

the recyclotron is my favorite thing

[scenic storm]

That's the spirit. Gonna discover everything

Never used the reclything

[ivory condor]

i only know that theres new vehicle