#below-zero-chat
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so, i have some question about the game, is it more based on depth than the first one?
For example, you can go to the mine and collect items with your friends. You can travel with the ships you produce and enjoy the game together.
cause i'm watching some gameplay and every biome has deep parts, or a lot of caves
i played it, it's not that wow
a lot of bgus
Is it true that below zero is coming to switch
bugs*
I tried Nitrox. There are more bugs than this game 😦
like seamoth teleporting back to base
When did you last try it ?
a lot of things won't spawn
like, a week ago? or 2?
Anybody know when Below Zero will be coming for Xbox???
Hmm
probably after the full release on PC
I’m pretty sure after the full release
so, can anybody answer that question?
Damn- I am an Xbox player so I was just wondering
Because it’s been pc only I think for the early release
is it more depth, than like everything being scattered around like in the first game?
I think may 14 is new release date for bz
Yes
I still think they should lower the cost a bit
I got it for 20$ that seems like a good price for it
also , those icebergs give me anxiety. just being under one and something coming from the depth and you having no escape terifies me
i haven't played it yet
Except for nitrox. multiplayer, I think the game should be its own. It should be possible to play with fewer bugs without the need for mods
i'm watching a gameplay series
Well it was designed for solo only last I checked
a guy that has thalassphobia plays it
It would take a complete rewrite for multiplayer
so it's fun, cause he kinda plays like i would
hating dark and deep places
i still can't really go in the sparse reef in the old game without worrying about something being in the dark even tho nothing's there
Multiplayer would be very complicated and costly since you need to maintain login servers to store player data and game data that has to be updated through internet so if you have slower connection you can have lag loading areas or disconnetions
Unless you do like satisfactory did
They have it so that it’s hosted by the players
The person who’s save is being used will host it on there computer /internet
The moderate requests of the players should be taken and what is thought to be missing in the game should be added. Thus, the value of the game can increase and attract more players.
It the point still stands
so, is the ice dragon in-game? or did it scratched?
It would take a complete rewrite to allow multiplayer
Wdym ?
There is a frozen leviathan but idk about a Ice dragon
nevermind it's cut content
Mk
Player hosts would likely mean monthly subscription to play since you have fees to keep servers open. I don’t know if people would like playing if you had to pay $10 or more a month to access game
looked like this
it would had been cool ngl
but they cut the biome intented for it so
big F
Umm no the player host would cost nothing to the devs
Except maybe time
Really ? 😲
In The code it was designed to be solo only
Unless they have implemented new code for possible upgrades later on it would require a rewrite to enable it
The game can be edited and made multiplayer. It's not impossible
Not impossible but still a lot of work
I don’t fully know how nitrox does it but I’m pretty sure that it would be a big help if they do add multiplayer later on
I understand
HOLY this thing was massive
Lol
damm
it could have easilly shallowed the seatruck
thats a good levithan
too bad it's ben cut
sucks it wasnt in BZ in the end
Maybe if nitrox showed how much it cost to host their server it would give a better idea but likely it’s run by donations from players or supported to keep it going I’m guessing
I k ow there is a lot I do t understand but there is ways around it that isint so costly
it's would had been between 330-700 meters
I don't want to bother. People are just looking for a game. They mostly prefer games that they can play together. After a while, they get bored after they finish the games they play alone. This issue is very important for the games to be continuous and continuous.
For some reason I don’t get board of this game
It always brings me back
So far I’ve got over a hundred hours ingame
And I plan to play in vr once mod is updated for it
I like base building most and more I go into game more cool stuff I find to add in somewhere
Agreed that’s my fav to do rn
i dont like base building in SN but its fun it BZ
I just finished a scanner base I. The crystal caverns
Also have y’all done the glitch with the moonpool to walk in the fabricator caverns ? It’s really cool
you build bases for scanners?
I’m also a farmer
?
I love to gather resources for hours on end
And certain resources are only in certai areas so I build a scanner base to find it easily
I do idk about others
It’s fun To chill to music and gather resources to build big bases
i can see the fun in building the bases
but i never really found enjoyment in gathering materials
thats just me tho
i prefer killing the fish
I’d gather materials a lot too and have big rooms of lockers to hold it all lol
I guess Im Just weird
so, how was the first encounter with a squidshark like?
Oh yes that’s the best
Beautiful in my case
shocked me it had and attackanimation
they don't look scary at first , then they open their mouth and holy
it looks like something that would be satan's pet
Lol, true
rlly?
yea like idk
thats the reaper in my book
everything in this game is horrifying
and i actually have on as a pet in SN
i never found BZ that scary
i was only ever scared of the cyrtophcus whatever
the what?
and that was cause i ran in with a seaglde
the stalker looking think?
the bone shark clone
Nah it’s pretty chill as long as you ha e perimeter defense in your sea truck
like the black one?
everything is
thats why i never really liked late game BZ as much as late game SN
just shock
I love late game cause I have almost everything I need to build
i rlly dislike it cause its just press x and listen to the jukebox
rlly?
Yes
i never rlly did
My fav song is survive
most of my exictment comes from beating the crap out of enemies with knives
the concept of something grabbing you by your feet is nice
yeah
Lol
that's what i was expecting to happen when i first played SN and heard warning, entering ecological deadzone, adding report to databank , and i just look down and it's just pitch black
i woulda kept going but i didn't wanna break my prawn on my killing spree
just a tentacle catching you and dragging you down into the depths
By far my fav thing to do
bruh
i just found out you can swim through titan hole fish
how
Ye
it's so obvious
tbh
You can also click on them for a boost of air
so, is there a void in BZ?
yep
I believe so
and something that replaces the ghost? or is it just ghosts?
thats where i am building my base
void chelicerates aka weaker then normal chelicerates
chelicera what?
so basically void aint that bad
The void is one place I’m not gonna go
you know
what are these names
the reaper clone
so, can the ice worm kill you?
yes
yeah
no it's not
eeehhh, its not that bad
i mean
its not like they're gonna kill you when your on the snow fox
last time i watched something bz related is like 1 year ago
when the first story was still in development
at that time the first story was nearly finished
also, why did the just change the whole story?
New writer
in the old story or new?
new one
Oh commited a crime and used a drop ship to get there
looking for sister
wait what?
commited a what?
a crime, she's not there legally
you can't be arrested if you dont get caught
She’s there like marg is
i heard that in the old story she was , arrested? or smth like that?
Illegaly
also she would be also if she ever came back to the vesper
so, her sister is dead in the new story?
ye
ya
and, altera are the bad guys?
aren't they trying to mutate the khaara bacterium tho?
yes but it's never stated it's for evil purposes
they might just be using it for medicine like they said they are
like the small aquarium or the ACU?
big one
mercury II bow
?
i wonder that happened to riley tho, did he even get mentioned in the BZ? or is he like in prison rn cause of his 1 trillion credits debt?
cause you can't give pay it back
with things on the planet
in the bow piece of mercury II
cause they kinda own it
tax fraud 
rate 5 for tax fraud
that wouldn't be tax fraud
disabled a god damn cannon?
or maybe they didn't care
and just killed him
or, he's drifting trough space cause he wasn't allowed to land lmao
anything can be tax fraud if you break the law enough
I don't think they ever mention him
but for it to be tax fraud they need to commit fraud with their taxes
my version of riley probably got arrested for causing genocide on an alien planet
its just fish
well
lmao
the one i commited
also
this conversation about the janitor guy
should be on subnautica chat
wait... um... you didnt kill all 3?
rip, sea dragons, i guess?
yes
no?
i barely killed a reaper
cause i'm not gonna find motivation
to slice a leviathan-class predator for 15 minutes with a thermal blade while it's screaming in my ears
all 25 is best
hey
it takes like
imagine killing reapers
3 minutes if you know what you doing
yea, imagine
i scanned it while it being alive
why imagine?
there are 25 of them
yep
and they cant respawn
i have killed like
also this
40 in total
converstation should be moved in subnautica chat
none
i care about their habitat
especially reapers
since i realized that they wont respawn
the only reapers i care about are my pets
every other creature?
tis on the hitlist
i love em
has anyone tried to build a base at the bottom of the void
its only 800 meters down
so it's possible
Any1 know I’d below zero is coming to Xbox?
may 14th
no
No
why would it be
Lol
How much
30$ min
$30
Sheshhhh
its not 800
why do so many people have the notion that this game that they've spent atleast 2 years making would be free on launch
I mean until the bottom
at the edge of the tree spires theres a drop off that goes down to land at 799 meters
1 hour 30 mins in and i'm building me a void base
Thinking of starting a new playthrough as my last one was prior to the intro change, anyone knows when the game will be fully released through?
May 14
ah damn guess I'll wait then
i made a new save cause my 32 hour save got corrupted
I have a save going on 60 hours and it’s not corrupted
ah rip, my original save is too old to be loaded
Kinda surprised cause it seems like every1 is getting that issue
y'all is there a message when i have entered the void
I think so
Says there leviathan class creatures in. The area are you am sure what your doing is worth it ?
ye
ngl
forgot to pause the game
and the void cheli made me jump
how deep is the entrance
where are yu
türk varmııııı
ik but whre did you come from
theres an entrance to the void in lily pads, tree spires, east arctic and more
wow
nice
base game vibes anybody?
?
So how does BZ run on mac? Anyone tried running it on the M1 chip?
Oh no...
I just got the die peacfully disc AND ALAN IS IN IT SAYING HE'S GONNA DESTROY ME
For real?
Yes.
:(
thats concept but LOL
This has a high priority but right now life is pretty hard for ARM users.
its not real
I feel sorry for the arm users
I have made a discorvery
Yk how I couldn't save yesterday? I figured out why. It was in Mag's seabase. You can't save in there apparently.
I tried it again in the same place and I had the same issue.
Odd, you should be able to.
Welp, apparently not me ¯_(ツ)_/¯
i have a goal
im guna build base at the end of the northern highway on 2b2t
well 900k blocks from spawn sooo LOL
#off-topic much
oops wrong server
Um I'm in Marguerit's seabase and her snow stalker's hitbox is still in front of the door to the kitchen. I thought there was something to scan there?
have you visited her in the greenhouse yet
No but I disabled the tower
go visit her greenhouse
Ok
that hitbox should be gone once you visit her and come back
Hello hello, trying to work out if I've found a bug or if I'm the one buggin' out (probably!). I'm trying to build battery chargers and get a 'no power' message. The habitat builder has full battery and my base is really simple - just a multipurpose room with a ton of solar panels. It says I've got 1000/1000 power but it just keeps throwing up that message. Any ideas? I've got a sinking feeling I'm missing something super obvious!
hi
wish there was a way to change the docking position for vehicles in the moonpool
how deep is maida's base?
I just found a duplication bug. Is there a dev or someone from the subnautica team available for me to explain to him?
could report it to bug report bug and give the reproduction steps there
no
so i just bought below zero. anything i should know before i dive in? (pun unintended)
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how deep is maida's base bruh
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thanks
how do i check my cordinates?
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LOL so funny
LOL i dont need your sarcasm
i am so hyped for this game to release, been holding off since the reveal to play it when its finished so i can live out the same feeling as i did with the first subnautica, Absolutely hyped
nah i can read 

It was so hard tho to avoid spoilers, i seen some scenes but overall i am pretty much clear of spoilers, the only one animation i saw
||The woman landing the prawn on the island||
The only thing i know about the story so far
go to the wreck
after the animation after another thing
which one of these is phi
idk
how do i get the habitat builder?
There should be a fragment near Delta Station.
which one is delta?
ah, lighting. exactly what i needed in a game thats entierly in the ocean
there should be a radio chip
what would that possibly be for
im having trouble finding the builder fragments
How do you get to the purple one
i dont know
Do you have to go through crystal caves and up to the precursor base up there?
I'm going to go to ||Mag's Greenhouse||. What precautions do I need to take and is it dangerous?
... Anyone there?
Bro u and marge are friends now that u disabled the radio tower
Yes I'm asking about like is a leviathan gonna jump out of a uh sea bush and eat me
Nah
Ok cool thanks
Angry squidshark noises
Yeah
As opposed to twisty bridges
Right? They chase you from like 100m away ind deep twisty.
Lol
Sad they removed the stasis rifle tho
Yeah
That made killing leviathans so easy
Stasis Rifle is my saviour
And repulsion cannon
Those cryptosuchus are more bark than bite, but holy crapoli are those roars terrifying
Is that the one on land?
Yeah
You can just get grappling arm on prawn and jump the bridge
Then you are way too fast for the ice worm and you also don’t have to worry about temperature
I highly recommend using prawn to explore arctic spires and glacial basin
Ok thanks, I'll remember that.
I have 3/4 PRAWN fragments it's humiliating
U can find all 4 in mining site
There’s also one in the frozen leviathan cave
And a couple in mercury 2 I think
But like
You can go
400 meters in 3 seconds with a well placed grapple
Grapple arm above ground is not balanced
No I don't think I'm anywhere close
And I swear the shadow leviathan’s aggro range is the entire biome
Yeahhh
Time to get 2 afterburner upgrades on my sea truck
For perms boost
And but ion power cells in it
Oh btw when u explore the arctic spires with prawn also take the drill arm cuz there are 4 drillable ion cube piles
U find the upgrade in marge base
Same with perimeter defense upgrade
They just lying around and u pick them up
Huh I looked all over the place
Yeah they small
I'll check again after I explore the greenhouse
Probably look at wiki cuz I might be wrong
i thought it was in crashed ship
I was wrong
It’s in sea monkey nests
@carmine forge it’s not in marge base
Yeah
She says
There’s far more to me than any damfangled gadget can pick up
Something like that
She does say damfangled tho right
Oh also
Did you know that you can duplicate batteries
How?
Recyclotron plus repair tool
Also how do I get fevered peppers
Repair tool comes with a battery but doesn’t take one to craft
Uhhh idk what those are
I'll look at the wiki
Now I’m just waiting to see if u can use the recyclotron on depleted reactor rods
It says it's found growing in arctic spires and glacial basin
Oh yeah those things
They give heat when u eat them
Are you on survival or freedom or hardcore
Survival
Nice
I haven't explored any landmasses yet though
I did survival for my first playthrough
But
I just enjoy freedom more
Food and water is annoying
Yeah uhh
Just look at the delta station docks beacon and go about 30 degrees to the right of that and you will run into some precursor cables
Follow those and u will find glacial basin
But make prawn first
I feel like this game needs another vehicle
pint size cyclops
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what
Maida has made me wonder how ||reaper meat tastes||
why
Probably like chicken
I wonder if the reaper clone taste like shrimp
I cant be bothered to try and spell its name
Cheliterate?
Yea
That one
Also
She has a god damn snow stalker as a pet
How badass can you be
I own BZ but havent played yet, should I play now or wait till full release
yeah
if its as scary as the original i wont have gotten anywhere close by that time
its not scary
Wdym its not scary
its a shorter game, I found it more scary. but it doesnt affect me badly
well depends on what you call scary
if it doesnt have ghost leviathans i prob wont be scared
it took me 80 hours to play subnautica, took me 25 hours to play BZ
i think i had 40 hours in my first playthrough
took me less than 3 hours to play Sams story in my most recent playthrough 😉
I do have 80 hours in BZ over different saves
theres a map I got, then I thought, well what if I seaglide to those locations
would you guys say bz is better or worse than the og
anyone know how far away from delta dock the greenhouse is? I'm having trouble finding it
same quality level of story, just shorter in my opinion
She said it was about a kilometer east but I still can't find it lol
east from Robins location at the place she was
it can be a bit difficult to find if visibility at the time is bad
remember to save :p
I don't actually remember where I was when I got the message lol
the communication tower that you disabled
just head east till you see icebergs
lke really big ones with light sticks on the shore
thats the one you wanna climb up then there will be a path off to the side where the greenhouse is
look around, my first playthrough I found it easily, then my second I couldnt
because of visibility
its around that area
map (not made by me)
if theres good visibility you might see if from the top of there
high res
cool map @gleaming pebble
its made by Apizartron-13 on steam
dude the giant worm thingy is so scary but does basically no damage
i've played 40 hours on BZ, should i start a new game on the release?
It's always a good idea to start a new game after each update.
I'm running low on lithium and I forgot where to find it, Purple Vents?
Yup, Purple Vents.
Cool
best way to get rubies?
I'v only gotten them from nice seamonkeys so im kind of getting desperate
Check the deeper regions of the Lilypads trench
Not Deep Lilypads, but the floor of lilypads
That's where I find all of mine, anyway. :)
no and no
just storage
Anyone else absolutely love the titan holefish?
Uh big scary thing in Purple Vents is that a chelicerate?
Depends.
so you have reddit right
Yes, but I barely use it.
is it pink?
can you send a message to someone?
I guess...
It was from a bit of a distance, so it was discolored. I can confirm that it had back spines, though.
send a message to /u/shadowstitch telling them that i enjoyed their time capsule and send this pic too
im pretty sure alot of things have back spines
ik its wrong chat but noone in the other chats have reddit
if it looks like a giant shrimp its a chelicerite
Okay.
be sure to say that i sent you
Cornly Queen Has No Weaknesses#6905
pls and ty
they sent a reinforced dive suit
it really helps
@ionic canyon Defo bigger than a cryptosuchus but it had armor segments too
void levi?
did it have a glowy blue thung on its bottom?
In Purple Vents
def a leviathan then
only thing in purple vents are cryptosuchi i believe
besides levaithans
:0 I just built a large room for the first time
epiic
It's huge
is below zero canon?
Oh wow I can totally ditch my reactor room 😳
ty man
i bet my reactor room is bigger then yours
😊
lol jk
rly tho
i love sea monkeys so much
like ty sm for giving me free diamonds so i dont gotta go meet some squidsharks
you did done f**** up
am i supposed to live a life of storage module?
TYSM
prawn suit work?
just me or does it feel like u got titanium for years until you use like 1 piece and its all gone
yep
So uhhh... I forgot seamoths got removed from belowzero...
Bruh
theres alot of the titanium chunks in the crystal caverns
lol
crystal caverns have shadow in em
do you have the perimiter defense on your seatruck?
scary
is the full story out
may 14
i thought that was just for console
oh ok
also the date that it comes out on console 🤮
I didn't know that they left the old console commands in lol
console is not bad
ik
ive just always used pc cause it had better performance
also could never afford a console
pc only
i have thought about gettign a switch
but the only thing i would play is subnautica
ah
also want to get a ps5 so i can play there exclusives like spider man
why lol
i dont like playstation i will always be team xbox cuz that what i grew up on
thats something i can agree on
but the exclusives are too good to miss out on
id would rather have the console
you know a quick way to get 10 bucks online?
nope
apparently amazon decided to dip into the money i needed to buy VD
VD?
and apple has the worlds most stupid autopay system
virtual desktop
allows me to play PCVR games wihtout haveing the link cable
VR stuff
i see
Ugh why are preston's plants so short
i recomend you use a wall planter for those
It makes it really hard to get the leaves and berries
for the berries
yes, i did just get scared of a wall because i have no depth perception and thought it was farther away
just knife the plants and ignore there berries
ah
wait
wdym you dont have depth perception?
hurt my eye playing airsoft so I can only use 1 eye until it heals
holly lord found the ruby deposit in koppa
my fav field went out of buisness after covid hit
cause whitmer sucks booty
theres only like 1 field near me so i dont really get a choice on whats my favorite field
haha
yea
shhh PDA dont tell me I need fluid intake im tryna mine rubies
lol
I have a pretty standard setup, lacking a sidearm tho
I have some cheap AK off of amazon haha
ah
i do own my own sidearm
its the one by novristch
found it for 20 Bucks at a yard sale
How rapidly do fevered peppers grow back?
umm
Oh. Very fast.
id say 5 mins for a full pack of peppers?
probs less
thats jsut when i pay attention to em
i think its on the wiki
Lol salad is OP
ik it is
have you been to margs greenhouse?
80 food 30 water 100 heat. Like the nutrient block and big filtered water had a baby, and the coffee milkman wanted in on it
ight tim eto play boneworks
woah
time to make salad room
say, is there anyway to remove the support beams below my buldings? they're kind of ruining the nuetron style
so i ||got alan his body|| but when i go the the area we're suppose to meet, nothing is there, is that just not out yet?
ending not in
cool, so i'm as far as it is

save there 🙂
time to just make more bases i guess
btw, does spicy salad go bad?
or can you store it indefinately?
no it doesnt
done
below zero feels smaller than og sub
it is
it is smaller
30 hours verses 60-80
any plans for dlc once the base game is done?
no idea
funny enough, i don't think i ever actually used the hoverbike
if you play the game again and again, less and less items are even necessary
I need 1 nuclear rod to power a station for the entire game...
yall out here beating the game im too scared to enter the east side of the map
i'd rather make a bunch of bases in dangerous places than restart the game, personally
i wanna make one in the weird crystal place
i know how you feel
there's not much east of the island, is there?
save @ionic canyon go out there. you live save again. you die, dont save and then go back in ;_)
don't think i explored that area
east is part of the story line
yeah it does
i have it but
like
being swallowed by a shrimp is something my heart just cant handle
perimeter defense saves you everytime
then don’t be swallowed by it
twisty bridges is actually where i set up my base
good spot for a base, lots of natural mineral resources around
and you're not too far from anything
i built mine on the edge of the twisty bridges right next to the mining site
nice, i built mine right above the spot with the squidsharks and the diamonds
I built mine on koppa for thermal energy
even if they aren't hyper hyper efficient
omfg i just saw my own hand and thought it was warper tentacles and ☠️
wrong chat?
@ionic canyon you have tentacles for hands....?!
understandable
when what you say is so absurd you get a "wrong chat?" u know ur messed up
understood
oh no

I dont wanna start story until game comes out so that way ill get the full experience
totally not that im scared of everything
dead chat
rip
its shorter, maybe 30 hours for my type of playing. thats my only complaint
It wasn’t short for me, too many things to build, too many areas to explore, too many entries to read, a fair amount of leviathans to kill, I have enough for 80 hours + *-*
nice @ripe warren
I'm probably going to spend 30 hours just building
I progress too fast with the story line, thats my focus more than building
I saw someone streaming the original on twitch. her bases were beautiful, not like mine which are for function exclusively
atleast there's replayability for players like you who speed through the storyline
~~but unless your a speedrunner ~~
I went back and forth between to areas in BZ to make sure I remembered the route
last time
I do some weird stuff
yes
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ah
can i flip ladders?
flip? you might rotate them? no idea
it dosnt give you the option to rotate or anything
i wish i could rotate ladders
that would be freaking op
also would make base building somewhat nicer
I just want to not walk into the same ladder i just went down ;-;
i want elevators
ladders are technically elevators being that they transport you instantly
neither elevators nor ladders transport you instantly
what type of elevators are you taking
ladders inside bases you dont climb the ladders
safe place to get lithium?
I hope that the devs are actually looking at this discord.... My wish list for BZ would be:
One: NO MORE CLIPPING! A seamonkey clipped into my seatruck's storage module. while I was driving. Blocked the exit, no way out. Had to abandon the module.
Two: For the big rooms, make more alien containment sizes available. No, I don't really mean a LARGER containment. but the small ones already available for multipurpose rooms. I have noticed that you can put one of the new containment units in the middle, which leaves one small-sized space available at each end. And, if you are stacking large units, a single large unit on top covering the two middle slots forms a 'bridge' for the containments, allowing whathaveyou the freedom of both containment units below.
It would also be great if stacking units had a 'switch' for whether or not they linked above / below or not. Say, in a three storey multi stack have three separate containment.
Three: IF the dev console has 'spawn', THEN make sure that there is also an 'unspawn'. (Yes, I know, just don't use console.) Which brings me to
Four: Make it easier to have multiple save sets for a single playthrough And the ability to name the save sets. For instance, a save set for just testing out console commands, named whatever, with sevesets that I can name by (say) console command tested. (Most extreme example I can think of.)
So after the last update the devs put a mountain in and my prawn suit and seatruck are now buried in this mountain. any ideas how i can get them out?
@dusk magnet Make new ones?
I mean I could make new ones but all my sea truck modules are stuck too. Just sucks
There is no command for ghosting, goto-ing or warping a truck or prawn, even with the player inside. Yeah, it sucks. Rule of thumb, for new update make new game.
hey
I did that after my first attempt at the game. I saw containers I had pillaged refilled and shut
sup
So uh there is like this problem of my game having a ton of blue and orange squares
I went through the thing too
whys it weird looking for the bottom?
has it always been there?
Idk bro that’s kinda weird
thats why I came on for help :C
I would back up the game save. uninstall, then delete the contents of the game folder and reinstall
its the best way
but...you could try to verify the game contents if you are using steam
update the video driverS?
Yeah Im on an m1 mac so
no idea how drivers work on macs
Anyone know how much damage the prawn drill arm does compared to the normal arm
It was working in the betas without this but since like 3 updates ago this starting happening
what if you go to experimental? (dont save the game)
change to experimental, then go into the game and see if it works. dont save the game or you will loose the ability to save in the official release
ok but I thought I tried that

