below-zero-chat

[silver knoll]

i just surrounded my base with brute sharks

[tranquil steppe]

i only have 2 Brute Sharks

[silver knoll]

dissapointing

[tranquil steppe]

as pets... there is about 11 wild Brute Sharks back in the Wild

i kill atleast 1 Brute Shark every day

[hybrid jay]

I keep hearing this morse code so ama go see what it is

i also found a sea truck fragment so go me

[tranquil steppe]

good

you will be able to make a Sea Truck soon

but you need something else to build it than the... umm i forgot what its called

[silver knoll]

lol

mobile vechile bay?

[tranquil steppe]

thats the thing he needs

i mean the one you have

that can make nearly everything

[hybrid jay]

that drinking sound has just made me very thiesty

thirsty

i will be one second

[silver knoll]

drinking sound?

[hybrid jay]

yea lol

had to get water

[silver knoll]

oh

man i wish there was levithan eggs

[fading dove]

Is the Subnautica below zero complete?

[hybrid jay]

no

[glossy hamlet]

yeah he is the expert here

[silver knoll]

no

no ending yet

[fading dove]

oh okay, well I will wait another year xD

[glossy hamlet]

xD that's overexagerated

[silver knoll]

lol

[fading dove]

I know, but it looks like the game is always on "pre version" for about 2 Years

[silver knoll]

bruh

you know how long subnautica as on "pre version"

[fading dove]

A long long time

[hybrid jay]

AHHHH

MY FIRST PRECURSOR encounter

okay

[tranquil steppe]

dude, there is Leviathan eggs

[hybrid jay]

excitement levels, critical

[silver knoll]

rlly?

[bold monolith]

The glow whale.

[tranquil steppe]

yeah... give me that thing that censores text

[silver knoll]

bruh

[tranquil steppe]

dude... you spoiler

[hybrid jay]

and i'm bugged in a rock, lovely

[silver knoll]

i have a cursed prawn suit

each time i load a save

[glossy hamlet]

really? didn't know ||glow whales|| had eggs

[silver knoll]

it spawns me there

[tranquil steppe]

well have you seen a Leviathan that got stuck inside another Leviathans?

[silver knoll]

and i cant destroy it

[tranquil steppe]

well get one so you can get a pet leviathan

[hybrid jay]

idk what to do

[bold monolith]

Are you on stable, @silver knoll?

[glossy hamlet]

spawn in a leviathan cheli so it grabs your prawn out

[tranquil steppe]

and me give that thing that make my text black so you have to click on it to see it, because it isn't on my Keyboard

[glossy hamlet]

where are the glow whale eggs?lily pads?

[tranquil steppe]

yes

inside the Rocks

[silver knoll]

?

[silver knoll]

its on land tho

[glossy hamlet]

you have to select text with your mouse and there is an eye icon on the right and you press it

[glossy hamlet]

ah got it

[tranquil steppe]

||ghdfhh||

like that?

[glossy hamlet]

thats it

[next current]

Who has summoned the mighty one.

[tranquil steppe]

yeah we have seen that before

me

[bold monolith]

You probably are in stable, is your storage module open on the exosuit?

[glossy hamlet]

oh yeah its the same problem you said yesterday i think

[tranquil steppe]

someone asked for a Fragment

[silver knoll]

ye

[tranquil steppe]

and they called the Fragment Guy

[next current]

sigh.... Is that my title now?

[bold monolith]

@silver knoll can you share your save file?

[silver knoll]

?

[glossy hamlet]

change name to Slicey AKA The Fragment Guy

[tranquil steppe]

well kinda... you know where all Fragments are

[glossy hamlet]

you should have a role just for that xD

[mortal imp]

So does the wiki

[hybrid jay]

uh guys

a precusor just went into my head

and i feel kind of sick

ngl

[alpine elk]

Is the in-game scanner not functional yet?

[mortal imp]

It is

[bold monolith]

It should be.

[tranquil steppe]

AL-AN?

[hybrid jay]

well i went to a sanctuary

and there was this huge cube

[glossy hamlet]

ah

[hybrid jay]

and it said it wanted to go in my pda, and instead went into my head

[glossy hamlet]

the story beggins

[hybrid jay]

yes

[tranquil steppe]

well you have gotten AL-AN

[hybrid jay]

hey alan!

[alpine elk]

Mine does not function.

[tranquil steppe]

AL-AN talks... not too much, with his help the Sea Monkees will give you stuff

[silver knoll]

why?

[glossy hamlet]

how

[tranquil steppe]

so the Sea Monkees are good guys now

[silver knoll]

why does that work?

[hybrid jay]

well they were never bad, they were just cute

[tranquil steppe]

Alien technology i guess

[glossy hamlet]

see why they exist?

[hybrid jay]

lol

[tranquil steppe]

to give you stuff

they keep giving me Diamonds

i dont need Diamonds

[glossy hamlet]

lucky you

all my diamonds came from ||Koppa||

[silver knoll]

i got the robot in the first hour before i found the sea monkeys

[tranquil steppe]

i HATE! those Diamonds they keep giving me

[hybrid jay]

please call me AL-AN! you called it 😛

[tranquil steppe]

i need ||Magnetite ||and ||Rubys||... not Diamonds

[glossy hamlet]

but there are almost none near them

so they can't give that to ya

[glossy hamlet]

the ||spy pengling||?

[silver knoll]

||Nah, AL-AN||

[glossy hamlet]

he ain't a robot tho

[half lark]

How can we tell the difference between a spy pengling and a normal pengling? Are there any visible differences?

[hybrid jay]

ok

i am making sea truck

[mortal imp]

well one is clearly a robot and the other is clearly alive

[half lark]

Well yes obviously but do we ever get to see spy penglings in the game?

[mortal imp]

yes if you craft one

[half lark]

Oh

What is the point of that

[mortal imp]

to get snow stalker fur and access caves that you can't get into

[slim quarry]

It is pretty useless

but it does help with one quest

Kinda quest

one storyline

which is not necessary at all to complete the game

and doesn't unlock you anything

[hybrid jay]

guys

[slim quarry]

Yes?

[hybrid jay]

should i go to delta station or architect artifact x3

first

i have both beacons idk which to go to tho

[slim quarry]

It really doesn't matter

[hybrid jay]

mk

[slim quarry]

Delta Station kinda progresses the main storyline if I remember correctly

wait no, the secondary storyline

[mortal imp]

and begins another sort of storyline

[slim quarry]

Kind of?

The whole story is a mess in this one

You got the alien story "fetch quests",
The short Maida quest, and
your sister's quest

[mortal imp]

although maida's quest can be seen as a side quest for Sam's story

[hybrid jay]

how do i get to the beacon

through the kelproot caves?

[mortal imp]

which beacon

[hybrid jay]

x3 architect

[mortal imp]

yeah through the kelp caves

[hybrid jay]

is it safe to take sea truck

[mortal imp]

If it fits sure, I have no idea how deep it is

[covert tinsel]

If its in the kelp caves you can seaglide

@hybrid jay

Kelp caves has an abundance of oxygen plants

[hybrid jay]

thanks

[covert tinsel]

@mortal imp do you know the refresh rate of the plants? Its like a minute or two

[mortal imp]

40 secs

[slim quarry]

Kind of? Her quest is really strange tbh

[covert tinsel]

Does sams story have cutscenes like maidas?

[mortal imp]

yes, 2

or 3 maybe can't remember exactly

[covert tinsel]

Im worried i messed everything up by going out of order

[slim quarry]

Maida's Quest:||Meet her, meet her again, do some pirating and destroy a lighthouse, find a greenhouse, the end||
Did I miss anything?

[mortal imp]

nah

[covert tinsel]

Did the ||greenhouse|| have a marker or did you just have to find it?

[mortal imp]

find it

[hybrid jay]

ok so wtf, i just saw this shark thing

it was bigger than the other one i saw earlier in the twisty bridges

[covert tinsel]

I mean i guess it kinda had a marker as there is an alien artifact within render distance

[hybrid jay]

and scary looking, in this weird biome

[torn barn]

There are several “shark things” in bz

[covert tinsel]

Does the satellite have a artifact marker?@mortal imp

[noble mango]

Is it intended to get a seatruck stuck in a vent garden

[hybrid jay]

it just chased me

[mortal imp]

maybe, I can't remember every single marker

[slim quarry]

THose things are so strange

I have never been attacked by one, but they look so scary

[torn barn]

I don’t think so

[distant parcel]

finally killed the ||shadow leviathan||

[torn barn]

😔

[silver knoll]

beat you too it

[distant parcel]

oops

[stone lichen]

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[noble mango]

My seatruck where I spent a while getting all the depth upgrades got stuck in a vent garden and it’s still in there

[distant parcel]

but it respawned after i reopened the save so uhm

yeah

[silver knoll]

oof

[stone lichen]

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[distant parcel]

either that or it was a different one

[stone lichen]

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[distant parcel]

then it's another one

[noble mango]

Is it intended for sea trucks to get in vent gardens

[distant parcel]

i dont think so

[stone lichen]

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[distant parcel]

i think only the player should be able to get in

[noble mango]

It said “narrow opening so humans can get in” or something

[distant parcel]

ur screwed

[stone lichen]

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[distant parcel]

probably got glitched in

pain

[noble mango]

Well rip my seatruck I spent hours getting all the depth upgrades

[stone lichen]

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[noble mango]

I had to literally use console to no clip out of it because it softlocked me in there

[stone lichen]

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[noble mango]

No I mean

[distant parcel]

wait where are

[noble mango]

I couldn’t open the upgrades the bottom was on top

[distant parcel]

even from?

[noble mango]

Oh I know

The

[stone lichen]

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[noble mango]

Feedback

[distant parcel]

oh

i knew it looked familliar

[covert tinsel]

@slim quarry you might know did the alien satellite artifact have a beacon on it

[stone lichen]

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[distant parcel]

what satelite

[stone lichen]

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[distant parcel]

wait

you mean the radio tower?

[stone lichen]

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[distant parcel]

h

[covert tinsel]

No

[distant parcel]

okay

[covert tinsel]

Its an alien artifact

[stone lichen]

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[covert tinsel]

Pretty obvious location

I found it within like 15 minutes of looking for it

[stone lichen]

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[distant parcel]

"do u have any games on ur phone"

[covert tinsel]

I have no idea what did and didn't have beacons as i played without them

Petition the devs to remove alans artifiact beacons!

[distant parcel]

why do yall like making my life so much harder

lmfao

[covert tinsel]

Hows that?

How are we making your life harder?

[distant parcel]

i like the beacons lol

they help me so much

i don't really like wasting my time on looking for something

[covert tinsel]

Well for players like me the devs gave me the option to hide them

[mortal imp]

if you have the option why do you want them to remove them

[covert tinsel]

Because i believe the game is better if you dont know where stuff is or isnt?

[mortal imp]

so just disable them instead of asking to make the game harder for a majority of people

[covert tinsel]

No need to explore a cave if the game is telling you there is nothing down there because there is no beacon

[distant parcel]

who said that? i don't go into caves only for the purpose of seeing an artifact

[covert tinsel]

I need to go on the forum. Every alien artifiact needs an ion cube close by

[stone lichen]

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[covert tinsel]

Or better yet have the alien artifiact show up as a alien fragment in the scanner room

[mortal imp]

wow it's almost as if there's different types of players that prefer different types of difficulties in games

[slim quarry]

Nah, it is justified. Knowing where everything is makes exploration less important, so his/her frustration is totally justified and good

[covert tinsel]

@slim quarry he gets it. And there's a very small amount of exploration games like this

[slim quarry]

Yep. I totally understand, and rather agree. Dunno what these people are going on about. In fact, all of AL-AN's storyline is dumb

[covert tinsel]

Also when you severely hold a players hand you are crippling them from thinking and doing things for themselves

[mortal imp]

how is placing a beacon in the general area of an artifact hand holding

it's not like it includes GPS directions how to get to it

[slim quarry]

Maybe not hand-holding, but it kinda removes a lot of the challenge and fun of exploration

[hybrid jay]

WTF

[mortal imp]

god you'd have despised the old story of the game

[hybrid jay]

UNDERWATER

there is a huge ship

someone please explain

[slim quarry]

There still is a little bit of exploration to find the right cave, but...

Thats the mercury

dunno what it is

[hybrid jay]

is it safe?

[slim quarry]

yep

[covert tinsel]

How is pointing you directly towards it and saying the artifiact is over there handholding?

Its because who has gone to an artifiact beacon and not found the artifiact?

[hybrid jay]

well besides that lol

[tranquil steppe]

the Cryptosuchus... the most fricking annoying thing in the game

[hybrid jay]

now i'm even more scared

[covert tinsel]

Also the ship is down there beacause there was once was a orbital defense gun that shot down every ship that approached the planet @hybrid jay

[mortal imp]

why are you even complaining about this? You turn all the beacons off so this doesn't affect you at all

[hybrid jay]

yeah i played the original game castien

[slim quarry]

The first ones dont really attack you, and the squidshark is adorable so give it a hug

[hybrid jay]

is the squid shark that tentacle thing on the bottom pic

wtf cute? it just opened it's face and ate a fish

[covert tinsel]

Than why do you need it explained why there is a ship down there?

[tranquil steppe]

the SquidShark is a Semi Leviathan

[slim quarry]

It is so adorable

[hybrid jay]

nah i didn't mean that, i meant like can you explore and stuff

[slim quarry]

yeah

Honestly, the sunken ship bits is one of the better parts of the exploration in this game

[tranquil steppe]

i have killed atleast 2 SquidSharks

[hybrid jay]

dude it just attacked me

lol

[slim quarry]

it is so cute

[covert tinsel]

Bro you played the first game. Why would you think that you couldn't explore the ship?

[tranquil steppe]

KILL IT... Kill it with a Sea Truck

[hybrid jay]

is that really wise

[tranquil steppe]

yes

[hybrid jay]

tryna go to the last pilot location, and so far i am a bit spooked

[tranquil steppe]

kill it with your Sea Truck

[slim quarry]

NO!

It is too cute to die

[tranquil steppe]

dude same here... when i went down there for the first time... i killed it so i could get there

[covert tinsel]

No need to kill them

They respawn anyway

[tranquil steppe]

you need to kill it

[tranquil steppe]

they dont

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[tranquil steppe]

SquidSharks?

[slim quarry]

have you seen its adorable weird little tentacle mouth flaps? So strange but cute

[stone lichen]

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[tranquil steppe]

yeah... i wanna get its eggs

[hybrid jay]

what the hell is that

[tranquil steppe]

the Glow Whale

[hybrid jay]

is it harmless

[covert tinsel]

No you don't. Ive never killed anything. None of the enemies are a threat

[tranquil steppe]

only the first leviathan you will ever scan

[frozen dew]

i just went near all the animals to know what they did

i died i didnt die how much damage

[tranquil steppe]

then the|| Ventgarden|| and then the ||Chelicerate|| ohh yeah and dont click these if you dont want spoilers

[tranquil steppe]

yes

[slim quarry]

No you don't. Ive never killed anything. None of the enemies are a threat
Oh my gosh you are so correct all of the hostile dudes are actually near-passive and lame and do no damage. They are so lame

[amber hemlock]

Atleast they’re not subnautica passive

[tranquil steppe]

hey DieFire when you get here... swim back to ur Base... or else this is gonna happen

[amber hemlock]

They actually have an aggression level

[distant parcel]

@tranquil steppe

[hybrid jay]

I went to the last pilot's location

and i didn't see or hear anything

so idk what to do, ama go back to base

[tranquil steppe]

YOU KILLED a Shadow Levi just like us

[distant parcel]

@hybrid jay next to it is that woman's base

explore around it

[tranquil steppe]

welcome to the Leviathan hunter Group

[hybrid jay]

but my sea truck doesn't go deep enough

[distant parcel]

eheheheheh

[distant parcel]

hmmm

then build a depth module

and come back later

[hybrid jay]

aight

[slim quarry]

I disagree. I think that I was attacked by a lava lizard once in sub1, wheras here I am pretty sure I was only attacked by a monkey, and that doesn't really count

[tranquil steppe]

@distant parcel again just... welcome to the Leviathan Hunting group. + the next Leviathan we should kill is definitely the ||Chelicerate||... but they are harder to kill than the ||Shadow leviathan||... so be carefull

[amber hemlock]

I was rarely attacked in subnautica

In below zero I had to turn on invisible when I was building a base for fun

Squidshark was always on aggro

[tranquil steppe]

to all of you people in this server... Ping me whenever you kill a Leviathan

[amber hemlock]

Subnauticas ai was so slow compared to below zero

[distant parcel]

i'll try to use a seatruck with the parking module with a zapper then release my prawn to do the same thing i did to the shadow, rinse and repeat

not sure it's gonna work though

[hybrid jay]

where do i get lithium?

[slim quarry]

I don't think that we have been playing the same game here Grave

[covert tinsel]

@slim quarry im not complaining about the enemiesm they put on a good show of scaring the new players and even intimidating me in the first hour

[slim quarry]

In sub1, reapers would be constantly biting your sub, whereas the oversized shrimp in BZ are kinda harmless

yes... the first hour. Nice :)

[amber hemlock]

Reapers never attacked me in subnautica

[hybrid jay]

doesn't the sea truck go longer, and if so, how do i get those modules?

[amber hemlock]

This was also vanilla

[hybrid jay]

or is that spoilers

[tranquil steppe]

no don't use the Sea truck... just the ||Prawn Suit||... with the ||Grappling arm|| and the ||Driller||, and the ||jet jump booster||

[amber hemlock]

Subnauticas ai is that garbage

[frozen dew]

never

[covert tinsel]

I dont see a difference

[amber hemlock]

Below zeros ai is atleast a bit better with how aggressive creatures are

[slim quarry]

hmmmm

[covert tinsel]

Is there a difference between the two enemies

[frozen dew]

cyberpunk 2077's police ai is gold standard garbage

[slim quarry]

okay

[hybrid jay]

hey, uh where do i get lithium?

[slim quarry]

thats nice

[next current]

The stuff in your garbage bin is trash.

Haha goteem.

[tranquil steppe]

the Purple vents

[slim quarry]

purple vent areas

[amber hemlock]

Wasn’t cyberpunk a failure anyways?

[hybrid jay]

i think i saw those earlier thanks

[amber hemlock]

Atleast by quality

[covert tinsel]

@amber hemlock no only for console players and low end pcs

[amber hemlock]

Like the devs had to refund the PlayStation players

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[frozen dew]

the police have no proper AI. what they got is something from 1997 games

[covert tinsel]

If you have a high end gaming pc cyberpunk was my fav game of 2020

[amber hemlock]

Cyberpunk would’ve been better if they didn’t force their devs crunch time

[covert tinsel]

Almost no glitches

Thats a lie but not all the glitches console players got

@amber hemlock polish "crunch"

[tranquil steppe]

also hey @hybrid jay on the Delta island you can find a thing called the ||Habitat Builder|| which you will use to make a Base... so be sure to look for that

[covert tinsel]

Check polish labor laws if you want to see what the "crunch" was

[hybrid jay]

yeah i already have the habitat builder, remember i did play original subnautica

[tranquil steppe]

good

[hybrid jay]

and i completed it quite a few times, just been leaving this game for more content

and now it's nearly out i thought worth a try

[tranquil steppe]

now make a Base instead of the Drop Pod

if you already made one... well then make another

[hybrid jay]

yea, should i do that after i go to pilot's location, or before

[covert tinsel]

The drop pod is pretty good

[tranquil steppe]

real Base is better

[covert tinsel]

Much better than sn1 drop pod

[hybrid jay]

where do i get diamond? I need enameled glass for the pressure module

[tranquil steppe]

i haven't played the Original SN is it really bad?

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[covert tinsel]

Dyre fire do you want the patricians choice for base location?

[tranquil steppe]

ok good

[hybrid jay]

sure

[covert tinsel]

Gotot the last known pilots location and then go left till you see whales and icebergs and put your base half way up the iceburg

[hybrid jay]

err why there

[tranquil steppe]

i have my Base in the Twisty Bridges

much saver

[hybrid jay]

also where are diamonds

[tranquil steppe]

Sea Monkees

will give u diamonds

[hybrid jay]

that the only way?

[tranquil steppe]

no

[covert tinsel]

3 reasons.
1 good scans and almost all endgame materials within range
2. Having it halfway up the iceburg means your prawn can jump into the moonbay.
3. You can jump on top of the base than jump to the surface to explore the surface with the prawn suit

[tranquil steppe]

also Deep Twisty bridges

and other form for caves

[amber hemlock]

And glacial basin

[covert tinsel]

Just keep going down in twisty bridges

[hybrid jay]

i mean i'd personally kinda like to live between spawn and that area, so i have reasonable access to both

alright

[covert tinsel]

Spawn is worthless like 3 hours in

[tranquil steppe]

the only way to get ||Magnetite|| tho is with the Sea Monkees... thats atleast the only place i could find any

[covert tinsel]

Also that spot is the equivalent of being above the lost river

[hybrid jay]

alright thanks

[covert tinsel]

In sn1 my base was always close to the lost river entrance. In bz that location is this games equivalent

And theres 4 databoxes in range

[hybrid jay]

i'm as deep as i can go in the twisty bridges and i can't see any diamond

if i go any deeper i need to leave my seatruck

[covert tinsel]

Yes

Goto 300 depth

[hybrid jay]

300?

[covert tinsel]

Also good modules down there

[hybrid jay]

are there oxygen plants?

[covert tinsel]

Get out and go down

I don't think so

But you can get prawn suit

Want me to dm you how

[hybrid jay]

bruh the first thing i see is a squid shark and a really scary looking cave

kinda area

[covert tinsel]

You can get prawn suit now

All you need is a seaglide with full battery

[hybrid jay]

uhh

do i really need it

[slim quarry]

There are a couple of oxy plants

[covert tinsel]

Well if you had it you could prawn drop to the bottom and pick the diamonds off the wall

Also prawnsuit is godly in this game

[slim quarry]

It really is

[covert tinsel]

Ask@slim quarry

[slim quarry]

Ask me what?

[covert tinsel]

How godly and OP the prawnsuit is

[hybrid jay]

oh wow diamonds are easy to find

[slim quarry]

It is very godly in both games

[hybrid jay]

got them and going up

[next current]

Yes.

[slim quarry]

well, it is godly with grapple

without grapple its useless

[hybrid jay]

mk

[next current]

Grapple Arm is kinda useless.

[covert tinsel]

Well i think the jump jets are more powerful

[hybrid jay]

is telling me where it is a storyline spoiler at all

[next current]

You can't really get the insane launch speed anymore.

[slim quarry]

They are, but you cannot get the same forwards momentum that you can with the grapple arm

[covert tinsel]

No

[hybrid jay]

aight, hit me with it

[slim quarry]

Uh.... Yeah you can

[covert tinsel]

Shall i dm you?

[hybrid jay]

yea

if that's col

cool*

[next current]

I'm talking about the new prawn suit

For EA13

It kinda still works.

But not as good as it was before.

[slim quarry]

The grapple arm is super good though

[hybrid jay]

awesome, 300m on sea truck

[slim quarry]

when you do the circle grapple glitch thing you can go sooo fast

[next current]

Exploiting bugs is the major uncool.

[hybrid jay]

yea ngl what's the point in playing a game, especially a solo game like subnautica if ur gonna use bugs

[amber hemlock]

Exploiting bugs for gain is pretty lame

[covert tinsel]

I mean whats wrong with speed bugs

[amber hemlock]

It shows lack of skill and requires a free easy win

[slim quarry]

Ehh, I dont really exploit it because it is really unpredictable, I usually just have fun and see how fast I can rotate

try and mess with the ice worm

[covert tinsel]

I dont see how going fast could possibly be bad

[amber hemlock]

You skip past most of the dangers

Or all of the dangers

With no risk of surface collisions if you’re using the prawn

[slim quarry]

When youve already done everything legit, messing around with some bugs doesn't hurt anybody

[covert tinsel]

You can skip past all of the dangers by just going in a straight line in a seaglide though

[slim quarry]

Thats true

Its just slower

[next current]

It hurts me. 😭

[slim quarry]

sorry

[amber hemlock]

You cannot seaglide past drowning

[next current]

You see... I am connected to everyone's game.

[slim quarry]

Yeah you can. Its called going up for air or oxygen plants

[covert tinsel]

Seaglide only playthrough when?

[amber hemlock]

Those are not in every biome

[slim quarry]

Okay, controversial opinion here
The oxygen plants ruin the game
There, I said it

[amber hemlock]

Not really

[covert tinsel]

Actually i think they designed this game for seaglide only.

@slim quarry see above

[amber hemlock]

They’re pretty much the same as the brain coral

But easier to grab the oxygen

[covert tinsel]

Do a playthrough with just seaglide and air pumps

[slim quarry]

The brain coral was in like 2 biomes in sub1: The safe shallows, and a single cave under the mountain island

[hybrid jay]

where is the pilot's base? i'm looking around but i can't see it

[slim quarry]

also, it gave like 15 air, rather than 30ish

[slim quarry]

Underground somewhere

[covert tinsel]

Do you want us to spoil absolutely everything @hybrid jay

[slim quarry]

under a ventgarden is the easiest way to find it

[amber hemlock]

Wrong

[hybrid jay]

i mean it's not really spoiling it

its just a general idea of where to look in a certain area

[amber hemlock]

Brain coral was found in so many locations

[slim quarry]

Okay, hot take: (think Ive heard this expression before)
Have you ever actually used one?

[amber hemlock]

Yes

[slim quarry]

really

[amber hemlock]

Who hasn’t?

[slim quarry]

me

They are so useless

[covert tinsel]

@hybrid jay alright ill help you goto last known location and within 50 m is like a large fallen satellite dish looking thing with a cave underneath it@hybrid jay

[slim quarry]

so little oxygen, and so sparce

[amber hemlock]

First start of olaythrough yoy can extend how long you’re under water

[slim quarry]

unlike the oxygen plant spam in BZ

[amber hemlock]

Means you can get more recourses before you surface

[slim quarry]

Okay, maybe you will use them for the first ~3 hours, and then they become irrelevant

[glossy hamlet]

i have a question, does your gpu also overheat while playing Below Zero but not with other games like let's say GTA?

or is it just mine

just noticed it now

[amber hemlock]

Oxygen plant aren’t even that good, that take too long to reset compared to brain coral

[covert tinsel]

@slim quarry the oxygen plants allow no vehicle playthroughs

[slim quarry]

Yep

[covert tinsel]

Thats why they are there

[glossy hamlet]

IF you have a good oxygen tank btw

[slim quarry]

Also, Brain coral is OP says the wiki:

"If a Brain Coral is picked up with the Propulsion Cannon, it can be used as a portable source of oxygen, although this method is rather unconventional. "

wholly

what

[glossy hamlet]

wait

what

[amber hemlock]

I don’t think that’s the case as they don’t appear in deeper biomes like the crystal caverns

[slim quarry]

You still dont need them there if you are efficient

[hybrid jay]

yea i found it de

dw

[slim quarry]

with a max tank you can get to the crystal caves cache or whatever, and from there get to the fabric base

[covert tinsel]

@amber hemlock you just have to use the chad oxygen pump

[amber hemlock]

Oxygen pump is trash

And a waste of titanium

[next current]

Complete the Prawn Pilots task to get back through.

[covert tinsel]

The chad oxygen pump vs the virgin vehicle oxygen

[amber hemlock]

I never used the oxygen pump

[glossy hamlet]

neither

[next current]

Pipes are pretty useful yet still useless in experimental.

[covert tinsel]

I used it in sn1 on my first playthrough

If your not running pipe from the surface all the way to the red crystal are you even a man?

[amber hemlock]

Never used pipes and the pump, everything you needed from the beginning were close enough to the surface

A man uses a truck, not a puny straw

That’s why men drives pickup trucks

[slim quarry]

Really? I drive titanium pipes

[safe sun]

trucknuts for the seatruck when tho

[amber hemlock]

Pretty sure that’s fred

[covert tinsel]

But I wonder if its possible with an upgraded tank to make it by getting oxygen at the alien facilities?

[safe sun]

Devs pls

[slim quarry]

Pretty sure it is

[amber hemlock]

Isn’t fred a trucknut?

[covert tinsel]

Could you make it from the moonpool to the first alien facility and then to the last?

[amber hemlock]

Don’t think that was possible without bases in the first game

[next current]

Fred is my peasant.

[slim quarry]

you could also carry 2 tanks, but not sure if that would slow you down so much that it isn't useful

[covert tinsel]

Who has an upgraded tank and is willing to try?

[slim quarry]

I will

Gimme a few min

[amber hemlock]

A few mins of drowning

[slim quarry]

sure

[frozen dew]

there is no weight factor in the game

[safe sun]

Extra o2 tanks in your inventory slow you down

[slim quarry]

They do

[covert tinsel]

I have a suspicion that you might be able to make it if you bee line@slim quarry

[slim quarry]

but do they help more than they hurt?

[frozen dew]

so wait o2 slows you down. but a giant bike doesnt?

how about giant fish

[slim quarry]

okay restarting the game

[frozen dew]

i filled my inventory with as many 02 tanks i could handle. and never noticed it

[next current]

I thought weight was depended on what you have equipped.

[covert tinsel]

@slim quarry do a no vehicle/no base playthrough

[frozen dew]

it has to be low that i never noticed it this whole time

[next current]

Impossible.

Unless we're allowed to use the drop pod.

[frozen dew]

i always wondered why theres no mobile fabricator

thats not in the seatruck

[next current]

Because that's too powerful.

[frozen dew]

lmao

than u could do a no base vehcile run

[covert tinsel]

Hmm

No base/no vehicle and seatruck modules only

[frozen dew]

well you could make it corridor part and solar panel

[covert tinsel]

Does the fabricator module need power

[amber hemlock]

Marge needs a kitchen gun lol, her kitchen is a mess

All seatruck modules require power

[covert tinsel]

Dang

[amber hemlock]

Atleast for oxygen

[frozen dew]

only vehicle eject works without power

[covert tinsel]

Does the fabricaror work without power in the module

[amber hemlock]

You could have a unpowered storage module, but you would have no oxygen

[covert tinsel]

I think ill do a challenge run next run

[amber hemlock]

Pretty sure you need power in general for it to work

[covert tinsel]

Can someone test

Because the modules are lit when not hooked up

[amber hemlock]

Storage module and sleeper bed is the only ones I see working without power

[covert tinsel]

If the fabricator module works without power ill do a fabricator module only playthrough

[next current]

According to the PDA Blueprints Tab, the Snowfox is listed as a deployable.

[covert tinsel]

No suit upgrades

[amber hemlock]

Wym no suit upgrades?

[covert tinsel]

Meaning no fins, suit. Can only get rebreather and tanks

[amber hemlock]

There are divesuits you can get

[covert tinsel]

Have to use waterproof lockers for storage

Sounds fun

Freaking module only playthrough

[amber hemlock]

Reinforced dive suit, still suit and the cold suit

Those are your choices of dive suits

[covert tinsel]

Id say for my challenge no cold suit

Cold suit makes things to easy

[amber hemlock]

Also add no using caves on land

Since for some reason caves warm you up

[covert tinsel]

Its the windchill that makes the player cold i think

I think thats the logic

[amber hemlock]

You would still be freezing in a cold cave

[covert tinsel]

Because if you looj at the wind. Its always blowing hard

[amber hemlock]

Not as quick though

[covert tinsel]

Could honestly see a no storage playthrough

[amber hemlock]

Tbh I still wished that the cold suit would become less effective if you swam with it equipped

[covert tinsel]

What all do we need to craft? To beat the game

[amber hemlock]

Alien body parts

A scanner

[covert tinsel]

Just truly a hydrolic fluid can. Do they require ingredients?

[amber hemlock]

Yes

And you have to scan it first

[covert tinsel]

The body parts

[amber hemlock]

You need a scanner

[covert tinsel]

A scanner and a hydrolic fluid can

[amber hemlock]

And a knife

[covert tinsel]

What else?

Yes a knife

And rebreather and oxygen tank

[amber hemlock]

A laser cutter if you want to do marges story

[covert tinsel]

Is that truly it though?

[amber hemlock]

Spy pengling for the sam story

[covert tinsel]

Sounds like fun. Maybe charge fins as well for battery management

[amber hemlock]

You would need to make a small base for that

As you need a modification station

If you’re going for a no base no vehicle run

Then no charge fins

[covert tinsel]

Can you build a modification station in the water like on the platform at the emergency supply beacon?

Don't lie . This does sound kinda fun doesn't it?

[amber hemlock]

You can’t

It’s an interior base object

[slim quarry]

ITS POSSIBLE

[covert tinsel]

@slim quarry how?

[slim quarry]

Its tight, but possible

I was blacking out as I reached the fabricator base

[covert tinsel]

I knew it was

[slim quarry]

seaglide+superO2 tank

no pipes needed

and I was not extremely efficient as well

[covert tinsel]

The whole game is designed like that

[hearty oyster]

guys where the hell do snowstalkers spawn

i need the cold suit

[covert tinsel]

@slim quarry the game is designed for a no vehicle playthrough

[amber hemlock]

Super o2 tank?

What’s the super o2 tank?

Is it a new oxygen tank the devs added?

[slim quarry]

Maida to crystal caves thing I had ~30s of air left, and from there to fab base I had about -5 seconds

no

[next current]

The Glacial Basin.

[hearty oyster]

ok where is that

[amber hemlock]

And arctic spires

[hearty oyster]

;-;

[next current]

This too.

[slim quarry]

Ultra high is the one

I forgot the name

[hearty oyster]

ok ;-;

[next current]

South of the bridge.

[hearty oyster]

imma go try and find that

[slim quarry]

man

Its tight, but no vehicle is possible

[amber hemlock]

The game isn’t really designed for no vehicle run

[slim quarry]

It kinda is

[amber hemlock]

The first game you can do no vehicle

You just have to use bases

[slim quarry]

I didn't use bases

no exploits from me

no pipes either

[amber hemlock]

Still doesn’t mean it’s designed for no vehicles

[slim quarry]

but the first one is?

[amber hemlock]

There would’ve been oxygen plants in the crystal caves if it was

[covert tinsel]

Bro he just went from surface the the fabricator alien base without a vehicle or a base

[slim quarry]

Yep

[amber hemlock]

It’s possible for no vehicles but not by design

[slim quarry]

and I coulda been faster too

[covert tinsel]

How is it not by design?

[slim quarry]

Ive been in the crystal caves like 2 times

[amber hemlock]

Where are the oxygen plants in the crystal caves?

Oh wait

There isn’t any

[covert tinsel]

The alien bases

[amber hemlock]

Those aren’t plants

[covert tinsel]

Thats how bob literally just did it

[slim quarry]

Not with that attitude :)

[covert tinsel]

He refilled oxygen at the alien bases

[amber hemlock]

I said oxygen plants not oxygen filled bases

[covert tinsel]

And he reached them on 1 oxygen tank

[next current]

No, they aren't plants.

You cornflake.

[amber hemlock]

Game is not designed for no vehicles runs, as the deeper points doesn’t contain oxygen plants

[slim quarry]

If they wanted you to use vehicles they would've not filled the bases with air

[next current]

Pipes?

[amber hemlock]

[next current]

🤣

[covert tinsel]

@next current you can make it with an upgraded oxygen tank and a seaglide no pipes no bases. From the moonpool to the blue crystal alien base and from that base to red crystal alien base

[slim quarry]

I also did it first try btw so its not like something that takes practice

[covert tinsel]

He just did it literally. See for yourself

[next current]

But the moonpool is a base module...

[slim quarry]

no

maida's moonpool

[amber hemlock]

That’s a base

[next current]

Oh that one...

[covert tinsel]

Yes maidas moonpool

[slim quarry]

not my base

[next current]

Yeah, no bases.

[slim quarry]

its part of the terrain

[next current]

Still a base.

[slim quarry]

umm

[covert tinsel]

Stop trolling

[slim quarry]

so the alien bases are bases too?

[amber hemlock]

Yes

Obviously

[safe sun]

This is the pettiest semantics game I've seen on here in awhile.

[next current]

They're called Alien Bases after all.

[slim quarry]

okay, you guys are insane, sorry

fine

no player-built bases

[covert tinsel]

They are simply trolling

[amber hemlock]

Dude we’re not trolling

[next current]

No trolling. Using our brains.

[amber hemlock]

The alien bases are literally bases

[slim quarry]

In a few min Ill try again but with no maida base if you want

[amber hemlock]

Use that pink spaghetti in your head

[covert tinsel]

Heybob i got another challenge for you@slim quarry

[slim quarry]

I think it is still possible

[next current]

Yes.

[slim quarry]

yeah Castien?

[covert tinsel]

Can you make it into the iceworm territory without repairing the bridge?

[slim quarry]

yes

well...

hmmm

without vehicles?

[amber hemlock]

You have to use a base

[covert tinsel]

Without vehicles

[amber hemlock]

If you want to not use a base then there’s no other way

[slim quarry]

hmmmm

maybe

[next current]

Without vehicles, no.

[slim quarry]

Ill try that in a few min

[next current]

With the Prawn, yes.

[amber hemlock]

Well actually pretty sure it isn’t possible with the prawn ethier, atleast in experimental mode

[covert tinsel]

Were talking no vehicle and limited crafting playthrough

[amber hemlock]

Prawn works differently on land

Grapple hook isn’t that effective on land compared to being in the water

[next current]

Still works.

[amber hemlock]

Like I said, experimental branch

[covert tinsel]

@slim quarry thatl be your next challenge. Find a way up without a vehicle

[amber hemlock]

@slim quarry also find a way without using a base too

[covert tinsel]

My immediate thought goes to a underwater seaglide surface launch. You can get some air

[amber hemlock]

Seaglide is a vehicle

Or classified as one

[covert tinsel]

Do yoy build it with the VEHICLE bay?

[amber hemlock]

Dude not all vehicles are made in the vehicle bay

The snowfox isn’t made in a vehicle bay

Yet it’s a vehicle

[safe sun]

You're not wrong. But when someone says "no vehicles" I can count on one hand how many people are going to say "but that includes seaglides!"

You sound like that guy who corrects people for saying tomatoes are vegetables.

[slim quarry]

Fudge Im stuck in walking mode underwater again

[covert tinsel]

Hes just trolling

[amber hemlock]

Uh if I was trolling I would of actually be trying to do so

If you’re calling what I’m saying trolling

Then you have never met a troll

[covert tinsel]

Trolls are subtle. You give it away by saying things like "you cant refill oxygen at alien facilities because that violates the no base part of the challenge and sea glides which are literally made in the lifepod is a vehicle"

[amber hemlock]

You really haven’t met a troll have you?

[safe sun]

I interpreted Grave's comments as serious.

[covert tinsel]

Also the game has been developed by oxygen plants being seaglide distance apart

[amber hemlock]

Ok and your point?

[covert tinsel]

That the devs built it for a no vehicle base playthrough if you use seaglides

[amber hemlock]

Then where’s the oxygen plants in the crystal caves?

[next current]

No, it was developed by humans.

[covert tinsel]

The alien bases are oxygen sources

[next current]

= 3

[frozen dew]

i want a picture of oxygen plants using keyboards

[amber hemlock]

Alien bases =/= oxygen plants

In reality you’re the one trolling

[stone lichen]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[amber hemlock]

First game bases are filled with oxygen, yet it isn’t by designed for a no vehicle run

Same with below zero

Unless the devs adds a load of oxygen PLANTS to the crystal caves, below zero isn’t designed as a no vehicle run game

Next thing you’re going to mention is alien bases again

I bet it

[covert tinsel]

So that you can go from the surface all the way to the last alien fabrication station with only a seaglide is a coincidence?

[amber hemlock]

Ok but don’t use marges base for a source of oxygen

[safe sun]

Things are completed in games all the time that weren't specifically designed to be completed that way. Pokemon is designed to be played with 6 party members, but you can still beat the entire game with a single Magikarp if you wanted to.

Designed =/= doable. Yes, you can complete BZ without using vehicles. But Grave is right, it wasn't specifically designed to be completed without them.

[amber hemlock]

See if you can do that

[covert tinsel]

Tuna

[safe sun]

Castien I get what you're trying to say. I really do.

[covert tinsel]

Theres examples of seaglide deaign throughout this game

[amber hemlock]

Still doesn’t mean the the game is designed for a no vehicle run

[safe sun]

Actually lemme just go to the source and ask lol. Will check back when I get an answer.

[covert tinsel]

Look at the abandoned mining facility. Is it a coincidence that you can use the oxygen plants to get the alien artifact, and scan all the prawns and get back one 1 trip?

[amber hemlock]

The mining site is close to the begging of the game

It’s not lategame

[covert tinsel]

Also go into the mining facility and youll see that every oxygen plant is almost exactly 20 seconds apart

[amber hemlock]

That still doesn’t mean that below zero is designed for no vehicle runs

[covert tinsel]

Hence why you need the lategame oxygen tank to make it to the fabricator facility

[amber hemlock]

Come back when you find oxygen >PLANTS< in the crystal caves, then we’ll talk

[safe sun]

I asked the devs directly since you both are adamant about continuing this for Odin knows how long.

[covert tinsel]

Because guy here is like. The endgame area doesn't gave oxygen plants but if you have a endgame oxygen tank you can reach the last facility

Thats simply a coincidence

[amber hemlock]

First game had that tank

Yet it isn’t designed for a no vehicle run

Something that small doesn’t mean it’s by design

[slim quarry]

Okay, the bridge

It is

maybe possible

i kinda launched myself most of the way using item collision

but that was glitchy and inconsistent

and I couldn't get it to work

so

[covert tinsel]

@slim quarry next question

[amber hemlock]

Is there a way without exploiting glitches?

[slim quarry]

nope

[covert tinsel]

Can you stand on deployables

[slim quarry]

deployables hmmm

good idea

[amber hemlock]

Fairly certain you can

[covert tinsel]

You see where im going with this

[slim quarry]

I do

[amber hemlock]

But I’m pretty sure you can’t stack deployables on top of eachother

[covert tinsel]

Can you stand on top of a planted beacon?

[slim quarry]

gimme a second

[amber hemlock]

They fixed beacon stairs a while ago

[slim quarry]

gotta run all the way back home

[amber hemlock]

So that’s not an option

[covert tinsel]

My immediate thought goes to stacked storage lockers

Or climbing atop a deployed vehicle bay

[amber hemlock]

Vehicle bays has to be in the water to be deployed

It will even tell you in game

[covert tinsel]

Hmm

There is water directly under the bridge

[amber hemlock]

You have to be in direct water

[covert tinsel]

I wonder if you put a vehicle bay there and spawned something if it would land on the surface

[amber hemlock]

Not just over it

[frozen dew]

yes because of a dumb change

[amber hemlock]

Dumb change?

[frozen dew]

ah u wher talking about the mobile bay i thought u where talking about the moonpool

[amber hemlock]

Wait what change in the moonpool?

[frozen dew]

it cant be above or on land

[slim quarry]

Okay theory here guys

modules

for the seatruck

are they vehicles?

[amber hemlock]

Yes

[pearl folio]

trapped glow whale also trapped my sea truck lmao

[covert tinsel]

They are

[slim quarry]

Are they

[amber hemlock]

Yes

[slim quarry]

They dont have engines

and they cant move

[amber hemlock]

They’re made in the vehicle builder

[covert tinsel]

What are you thinking?@slim quarry

[slim quarry]

teleport module

If I can get it over the bridge somehow

fling it or something

[amber hemlock]

That’s still a vehicle

[slim quarry]

I can just teleport there

[amber hemlock]

Also you need a seatruck for it to work

[slim quarry]

nah

[covert tinsel]

Heres what im thinking @slim quarry

[slim quarry]

you can drag it

[amber hemlock]

It has to be powered with a truck

Or you cannot teleport

[slim quarry]

ooh

okay

[covert tinsel]

Can you put a vehicle bay right up against the surface and spawn the item on the ground@slim quarry

[amber hemlock]

The only module that really doesn’t need power for electronics is the the storage module

[covert tinsel]

?

Because when you spawn an item it is made in front of the vehicle bay and drops

Can it drop on the land?

[amber hemlock]

Pretty sure the game will tell you that you need to have it in deeper water

[slim quarry]

OH MY GOSH

DUH

Propulsion cannon!

[covert tinsel]

But does the water under the bridge count

[slim quarry]

can you fly with that?

[hearty oyster]

k guys thanks for telling me where to find snow stalkers i found the area

[amber hemlock]

It would count but you would never get a module up to the bridge

They just fall

[covert tinsel]

Next question

[amber hemlock]

And you cannot build modules over modules

[slim quarry]

wait ima try prop cannon

[covert tinsel]

@slim quarry do you have any already built modules?

What happens if you put a module on top of another module and pilot the bottom one to the surface?

[slim quarry]

hmmm, I dont have any modules near me

Ill try that though

[covert tinsel]

Line em up in the water on top of eachother and then lift the bottom one

[slim quarry]

hmmm, it doesn't move

It doesnt look like they have proper physics

[covert tinsel]

Freaking playing portal over here

Hmmm

[amber hemlock]

You need a prawn suit prop cannon to move them

As the normal prop cannon isn’t strong enough to lift them

[covert tinsel]

Can you make a bridge out of scap metal?

@slim quarry

[amber hemlock]

Scrap metal would just fall

[late relic]

did they realease an update?

[amber hemlock]

@slim quarry cool with the caps

[slim quarry]

You can prop cannon the seatruck modules

from the inside!!!!!!

and fly!

what!

that solves all the problems

[amber hemlock]

Oh thanks, the devs can fix that

Since you just revealed it

[covert tinsel]

I don't understand why the devs need to fix every single creative thing

[frozen dew]

if u want to be creative play in creative mode

[amber hemlock]

Cuz they’re not intended

That’s why

[slim quarry]

oh my gosh

alright time to go over the bridge

using flight

[frozen dew]

if u wanted to bypass the bridge. u can just build a base to the top

[amber hemlock]

@slim quarry are you in experimental mode?

[covert tinsel]

Were doing no base building

[slim quarry]

I am not in expiriment

spelling

[covert tinsel]

No idea why the devs would fix beacon stairs

[amber hemlock]

You can get out of bounds that’s why

[frozen dew]

u can bypass the bridge also with outdoor growbeds

[slim quarry]

my gosh, pulling this thing is so slow

[round walrus]

I wonder when BZ is coming to Xbox

[frozen dew]

when the games finished

[round walrus]

Oof

[covert tinsel]

@frozen dew good tip

You can just build em anywhere?@frozen dew

[frozen dew]

yes

[covert tinsel]

Much better than the janky scrap metal bridge i was brainstorming

[amber hemlock]

Is that in experimental mode too?

[covert tinsel]

I wonder

Can you put a airpump in chicks moonpool?

[frozen dew]

airpumps only work at surfaces

i think they have no distance limit

but ive never checked it

[slim quarry]

Alright I did it

[amber hemlock]

So I tested trying to build vehicles near the edge of land

It tells you that you have to build it in deeper water

[slim quarry]

you can prop cannon a module up to the arctic spires area

while inside it

[covert tinsel]

@amber hemlock good stuff

[slim quarry]

It is super difficult

and buggy

I only got it once

[covert tinsel]

Any creatve solution to the no base, no charge fins battery problem

[frozen dew]

it would have been doable if the abandoned charge pad wasnt removed

[covert tinsel]

Can you build in an abandoned base/ chicks moonpool

?

[frozen dew]

pretty sure no

[stone lichen]

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[covert tinsel]

Youve tried?

[stone lichen]

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[amber hemlock]

You really can’t build in prebuilt bases

So how do you do the growbed bridge?

You just stack on top of eachother?

[frozen dew]

u make stairs

[amber hemlock]

Been patched in experimental mode

You cannot build growbeds onto eachother

[covert tinsel]

So any solutions to the battery charge problem?

[stone lichen]

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[amber hemlock]

Build new batteries if you’re not making a base

[covert tinsel]

How to charge batteries without exploiting without a base, without charge fins, and without vehicles

[amber hemlock]

You’re gonna have to build new ones

[stone lichen]

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[covert tinsel]

I know that but could there be another way?

[frozen dew]

no nothing charges

[covert tinsel]

How about this

Can you plant in the already built underwater growbeds near the spiral biome?

[stone lichen]

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