below-zero-chat

[steel shoal]

smaller than Earth, the PDA says. Very specific comparison when Earth is often talked about negatively

[sterile violet]

Didn't someone calculate 4546b to be 1.5% of earth's size

This thing probably gets size mogged by some asteroids

[sterile violet]

I feel like this is just way too small

Like it wouldn't be able to make a magnetic field

[steel shoal]

1.5% of Earth means the calculations went wrong in the way

Or maybe there's just not enough numbers to find an accurate answer

[sterile violet]

I think that

[coral siren]

I don't think you can get a accurate answer

Just assume it's between our moon and earth in size

[sterile violet]

Tampa has 38 times the area of the crator

If a hurricane hit the crator

[steel shoal]

The gravity seems to be slightly lower than Earth's, even though the engine has the same G value

[sterile violet]

Most of earth's oceans are void also i think

[steel shoal]

No, void is just the small portion around reefs

[sterile violet]

Open water thousands of feet deep barely any life

[limpid drum]

wth

[sterile violet]

WOAH

[coral siren]

Thanks Andy...

[limpid drum]

bro just ban him 😭

[coral siren]

Okay ban him

Ughhh creeps

[sterile violet]

Those are areas with low oxygen i think

[limpid drum]

7,644,000 km^2 would be the surface area of 4546b in this case

[sterile violet]

I think the open ocean is more like subnautics void

[steel shoal]

Yes, that's what the void is

shouldn't be the whole ocean

[coral siren]

Open ocean is just deep

[limpid drum]

which is um a bit smaller then the US...

[coral siren]

Not low on oxygen necessarily

[sterile violet]

Yeah but barly anything is living in the middle of the ocean

[steel shoal]

You are wrong. Veeeeery wrong.

Open seas are where most life is

Reefs have lots of diversity, but the most populated species are deep, open seas fish

[coral siren]

And the coolest species are even deeper

[steel shoal]

the abyssal areas are barren

it has all the freaky fish but those areas are mostly empty, and are most of the ocean

[coral siren]

barreleye is such a cool fish

And angler

[steel shoal]

it's why people say the "80% of the ocean is unexplored"

There's nothing in those 80%,that's why we don't explore them

[coral siren]

Andy i have a very important question

Favorite real life fish?

[steel shoal]

we sometimes find a new subspecies of a small deep sea fish but that's all there is

[sterile violet]

In the abyssal and handal zone?

[steel shoal]

no

[steel shoal]

I just loooove #off-topic

[coral siren]

cri

[steel shoal]

Lanternfish make for a large chunk of marine life. They are deep sea fish (not extremely deep)

But they don't live in dead zones

[sterile violet]

They live in the Abyssal plains at twilight depths?

[steel shoal]

it's weird, they migrate vertically every day

at night they're jumping out of water

but let's not get sidetracked

[coral siren]

What are twilight depths?

[sterile violet]

So it seems the deepest they go is the midnight zone

[steel shoal]

deep sea is most of the ocean, and where most of life is located

[sterile violet]

200-1000 meters deep

[coral siren]

Gotcha gotcha

[sterile violet]

Subnauticas voids are more of a drop of in bioversity than compete death zones

[steel shoal]

The Gargantuan fossils indicate that there's a lot more beyond the EDZ

[coral siren]

Anyways let's get back to subnautica ice edition

[sterile violet]

Yeah no way a biome like the crator is supporting a garg

[steel shoal]

Technically they're not even EDZs in SN

In BZ they are, though.

[coral siren]

I think it's safe to say the gargantuan is extinct

[sterile violet]

Maybe sparse reef is lower in o2 than other biomes

[coral siren]

I don't see how a creature like it could fit in a healthy ecosystem

[steel shoal]

That's not the point

[sterile violet]

It photosyntheized

[steel shoal]

the Gargantuan lived in open seas, surely it was not alone, and evolution happened

[sterile violet]

The garg skipped the creatin sugars part actually and used straight up solar power

Lava Larva can feed on electricity

[steel shoal]

leviathans in 4546B have an enzyme in their stomachs that resisted the disease, at least partially. it's why the aliens stuck around

[coral siren]

Where does that lore come from

[sterile violet]

There's no way a ecosystem could support a gargantuan as a carnivore

[steel shoal]

one of their reports

I don't have the PDA with me anymore but I felt dumb reading it

[coral siren]

I know it's not the reaper

[steel shoal]

such crucial information, going right over everyone's heads

[coral siren]

I'll check for you real quick

[sterile violet]

Gargantuan used to be a apex predator and now it's been lost to history and forgotten 800 meters deep in the lost river

[steel shoal]

Maybe 3 000 000 years ago, life was huge

[sterile violet]

Lol gargantuan existed at the same time as megaldon

[coral siren]

Sea emperor fetus

[sterile violet]

Well ig riley and alerra know about him

And Archiets until giant dragon killed them

[steel shoal]

not this one

[coral siren]

I'll keep looking..

[steel shoal]

maybe it's the enzyme page

or Reefback?

or a random report

I don't even know if it's from SN

might be from BZ

[coral siren]

As far as the alien logs go it just mentioned sea emperor as having it in the digestive tract

[steel shoal]

doesn't it talk about being similar to other leviathans

being unsure if other members of the same species have the same immunity response

[coral siren]

Sea dragon i believe

Though the similarities are cosmetic at best

[steel shoal]

Hm, keep looking

[coral siren]

Reefbacks are mentioned to have a enzyme pod that is expelling stomach enzymes into the water

It's not directly mentioned as enzyme 42

[sterile violet]

Maybe apart of same family

Ngl a look at 4546b 30 years later would be cool

[coral siren]

Having tentacles is basically the only similarity

[sterile violet]

Both look reptilian and have similar arm structures

[coral siren]

One has hands and one has claw things

Having arms doesn't equal the same species ;-;

Well not same species

[sterile violet]

There apart of the same family

[coral siren]

But same family

[steel shoal]

cosmetic similarities, one is super primitive and the other is sapient

[coral siren]

And more mentally developed than even humans

[sterile violet]

Idk they must be close somehow

[steel shoal]

it's like meeting a primate that looks very similar to humans but acts like an insect

They are related enough that the aliens though their hatching conditions would be similar

[coral siren]

I'm pretty sure the sea emperors tended to live in the open ocean

While the sea dragons are pretty exclusively found in hot spots

[sterile violet]

SD need to eat lava i think

That's how they get the metal for 33% of their body

[steel shoal]

It eats rays and lizards, but also reapers according to the lore

[coral siren]

It isn't said to be metal

[steel shoal]

unlike lizards, they don't need to gather molten rock to spit at you. They're always loaded

[coral siren]

It's just said to not be organic

[sterile violet]

It says it consumes mineral substances in pda

Metal is a mineral substance

[coral siren]

Sea dragons really used the bottomless clip cheat

[sterile violet]

It's most likely metals, kyanite, quartz

[sterile violet]

It must store LOADS of mineral substance in its body

Bro it's anatomy must be insane

[steel shoal]

it has 2 skull designs

[sterile violet]

Sea dragon takes loads of minerals from its body and melts rhem down and fires them

[steel shoal]

PDA entry has an X-ray of its head but the skeleton has a completely different skull

[sterile violet]

I do assume the dragon would eventually run out

And also lose a third of its body mass

It could easily refuel though

[steel shoal]

hm

quartz and kyanite aren't metals

[sterile violet]

It has mineral substances in general in irs body

[coral siren]

This is in relation to sea dragon eggs

Id say it's safe to say sea dragons don't have that resistance

[sterile violet]

Wait maybe the SD has a area to store loads of mineral substances

[coral siren]

I find it funny the sea dragon is "too big to study in containment" so they went out and contained something much bigger

[steel shoal]

I can see where they come from, from a writing perspective, but it makes little sense when you thing about it again.

[sterile violet]

Uhhh it would have bad if they tried with a sea dragon

[steel shoal]

The SE lays eggs in places where currents bring all the nutrients. SD is in a cave, permanently.

AL-AN didn't think that through very well

[sterile violet]

The sea dragon could destroy the facility though

[coral siren]

AL-AN has a disconnect from life in general

He doesn't really understand normal life because his species just isn't

[steel shoal]

That blunder was pointless though

[sterile violet]

Feeding a SD is hard

[steel shoal]

it's not

[sterile violet]

You need loads of calories and literal lava

[coral siren]

I don't think it eats lava for nutrients

[steel shoal]

You forget that it's giant. It only needs to eat once in a while due to extremely slow metabolism

[coral siren]

But regardless the metal is immune to the magma outside of the facility

[sterile violet]

It needs loads of mineral substances at least

[steel shoal]

The vents are there to bring nutrients, minerals, etc

[coral siren]

And send out hero hoverfish

[steel shoal]

conveniently, peepers fit through the holes

[coral siren]

Nah I'm doing a retcon

It was hoverfish the whole time

[sterile violet]

All living organisms do eat mineral substances

Just up the dosage of the nutrients like iron and magnesium by a magnitude

[steel shoal]

Emperors are much harder to keep than Dragons tho

[coral siren]

Very large creatures

Significantly larger than a dragon

[steel shoal]

deep sea gigantism is pretty good, but Emperors aren't experiencing that, they just eat a lot

They're filter feeders

[sterile violet]

Well a dragon maybe could be heavier due to the mineral substances

[coral siren]

I doubt it

Here 1 sec

[sterile violet]

Ok yeah even with tungsten it might be hard to beat the SE in size

[steel shoal]

I don't trust this

[coral siren]

Do you have a better one?

[steel shoal]

ghost is longer than dragon in this image

go look for a better one

[coral siren]

No it's not >->

Wait yes it is

How about this?

107 for a ghost and 112 for a sea dragon

[sterile violet]

Imagine if AL-AN did do the sea dragon

Wouldn't this anger the other sea dragons

[steel shoal]

Notice how Reefbacks are suddenly in such a different position

[sterile violet]

Actually idk if their that social

[coral siren]

Wait aren't they supposed to be 30m

[steel shoal]

without the tendrils

[steel shoal]

they're not

[coral siren]

Amino is a liar

[sterile violet]

Wouldn't the mother sea dragon attack the facility

[coral siren]

Since reefbacks are essentially the blue whale stand in

[sterile violet]

Oh wait I forgot sea dragons can clip through walls

Glow whale actually being the size of a blue whale

Well way wider

[coral siren]

Reefback and glow whale are around about the same size

Length wise

[sterile violet]

Now I'm realizing they get free food and sea dragosn don't really explore much unless they need to go get food

[steel shoal]

Except reefbacks have tendrils that double their length

[coral siren]

Double..?

[steel shoal]

there isn't a mother

[sterile violet]

The one that lays the eggs

[steel shoal]

Reefbacks are about 60m long

[sterile violet]

They have like a queen sea dragon

[steel shoal]

all of them do

[coral siren]

Yea ig double is abt right

[sterile violet]

I thought it was that there was one mother/queen sea dragon who could lay eggs and she died after attacking a facility and the speicses got doomed

[steel shoal]

not the case at all

[coral siren]

There is only 1 sex on 4546b

[sterile violet]

There all hermaphrodites

[coral siren]

So the idea that there could be just one egg layer is weird

[steel shoal]

there is less food available because of the disease so they don't reproduce as much

[sterile violet]

What if there's deeper lava zones than the lava lakes

And that's where they lay eggs

[coral siren]

And as time goes on they are closing in on extinction

[steel shoal]

There can't be

[coral siren]

I don't even think ryleys actions will help that fact

[steel shoal]

The Lava Lakes and interior of the Lava Castle are pretty much the part of the volcano that connects to the planet's core or whatever

[sterile violet]

Well if he collected a sample dna alterra probably got tech for cloning animals like that like the transfuser exists

[coral siren]

And how would alterra benefit

[sterile violet]

There both basically inside the volcano

[coral siren]

This is a corporation with the bottom line on the mind

[steel shoal]

We don't know if there's cloning tech but cloning a SD is not very cash money of a decision

[sterile violet]

Uhh yeah ig

[coral siren]

Ughhh

Andy stop stealing my well thought out arguments

[sterile violet]

You can't exactly display at a aquarium

It would destroy everything

[steel shoal]

The whole map is a volcano

it's even called a crater

[sterile violet]

Cloning a sea emperor is cash money?

Enzyme 42 production

[coral siren]

No

[sterile violet]

Wait can't they make it synthetically now

[coral siren]

Uhhh we aren't gonna broach that little plot hole

[steel shoal]

No, that recipe is there solely for gameplay purposes

[sterile violet]

Sea emperor gave the recipe to riley

Sam made it synthetically also I think

[coral siren]

||Sam making it is really weird tho||

[steel shoal]

That's the hatching enzymes, for hatching their eggs only...

[sterile violet]

Oh

Oh yeah

[steel shoal]

the enzyme is pretty much just puke

[coral siren]

In fairness there was supposed to be a sea emperor in the sector zero but it was cut due to story changes

[sterile violet]

So sea emperor cloning is still cash money

[coral siren]

No

[sterile violet]

To get enzyme 42

[coral siren]

Humans don't have a kharaa problem

Least not yet

[sterile violet]

Natural selection 2

[coral siren]

Is not canon

Officially

[sterile violet]

Alterra has khraa now

[steel shoal]

I think she did it using chemicals from omega lab, with Ryley's research on the side. Vinh was working with the disease so he obviously had a cure somewhere

[steel shoal]

Not anymore

[coral siren]

Well in fairness that particular objective is optional

[sterile violet]

What

[coral siren]

And what do you think a syringe bot was doing there

[steel shoal]

The leviathan and the lab were the only places with the disease that humans had access to

[coral siren]

It wasn't for administering a cure

I think they extracted kharaa with that syringe bot

[sterile violet]

They didn't send samples back to alterra hq?

[coral siren]

And took it off planet

[steel shoal]

no

[sterile violet]

Or another off shore planet

[steel shoal]

that's part of the old story

it's not canon anymore

[coral siren]

I think my points are valid however

[sterile violet]

A real laboratory might ask a lot of questions

[coral siren]

Why have a syringe bot there for something you don't intend to cure

[steel shoal]

they had a lab on-site, with scientists

[coral siren]

Also why didn't sam cure it with the cure she made

[steel shoal]

You know who made the robots? That's right, Sam!

[coral siren]

Oh god... this evidence breaks all of my theories..

Andy you fiend how could you!!!

[steel shoal]

She probably tried to administer the cure but got caught in the middle and it led to her accidentally blowing things up early

She had a backup plan though, another antidote in a hidden location

[coral siren]

Why blow it up at all though

Like once it's cured there's nothing they can do

[steel shoal]

sealing the place? idk Maida probably just wanted to get rid of the explosives

[coral siren]

I think maida just has a grudge against alterra and it wasn't logical in the least

[sterile violet]

Now I'm realizing they probably didn't transport khraa because it could end very badly

[coral siren]

Sam paid for the careless hate

[steel shoal]

Maida was scared of the explosives

So she gave them away 🥰

[coral siren]

She set hers off perfectly tho

Sharing is caring...

[sterile violet]

There's not enough enzyme for a intergalactic pandemic

[coral siren]

Makes me wonder what the precursors thought would happen :/

"Yay we have a small amount of cure for our entire civilization"

[steel shoal]

I don't think Alterra wanted to unleash the disease

[sterile violet]

It would also gone bad if alterra had to pass through another trans goc

[coral siren]

I think alterra would sell it to highest bidder

Keep their hands "clean"

[sterile violet]

Yeah but if a accident happens while transporting

[coral siren]

Biological weapons of that nature can wipe a whole planet out with some tweaking

[steel shoal]

they could replicate it, but first they'd need a sample, and they only had the insufficient version from the scarred emperor in Containment

[sterile violet]

Well they probably had the tech to synthetically reproduce it after

[steel shoal]

They didn't want to transport it anywhere, that's why they have an on-site laboratory

[sterile violet]

I was thinking once the khraa pandemic happens aletrra sells vaccines at a ridiculous price

[coral siren]

So synthesize mass amounts of the incomplete cure as a temporary measure

[sterile violet]

Yeah it makes sense why to not transport it

[coral siren]

Longer life span with it than without

[sterile violet]

It takes like 6 months to get to alterra hq

[steel shoal]

they died shortly after anyway

[sterile violet]

Well probably way less now

[coral siren]

True

[sterile violet]

Getting caught with a khraa in another trans gov region

The entire aurora incident would probably be galactic news

[steel shoal]

But there's no evidence for Alterra wanting to unleash a disease for profit. It'd ruin their reputation if they get caught, which would likely happen if they suspiciously have an overpriced cure. Poor public reception means shareholders not wanting to be associated, which means no money. Alterra doesn't take risks like this, Torgal Corp did.

[sterile violet]

Alterra would fall easily to a plague

They have products that they ship that are used by everyone

[coral siren]

Are you saying the torgals would've unleashed a disease with holding the cure in high price

[sterile violet]

And they manufacture loads of products also

Like cyclops

[steel shoal]

Vinh was a junior, he was there to make a Kharaa mutation that eats diseases without harming humans. He isn't going to be evil in his first job.

[sterile violet]

I don't think that's alterra created

[steel shoal]

Cyclops aren't Alterra-created

[sterile violet]

Yeah

[coral siren]

The disease is water based aswell

It spreads in water

[sterile violet]

Id assume cyclops is open source or something like that

[steel shoal]

Most things aren't Alterran, it's like saying IKEA created wardrobes

Alterra creations are few, like space seamoth module

[sterile violet]

They made prawn suits

Seamorhs aren't alterran?

[coral siren]

Idk if they made prawn suits or just this latest iteration

[steel shoal]

I don't remember but probably not

[sterile violet]

Solar transgov had to partner with alterra

[coral siren]

Seamoth have the alterra slogan on their pda entry

Isn't that an indicator alterra made it

[sterile violet]

What about trucks

[steel shoal]

Alterra takes care of its own production to avoid 3rd party fees and all. They make their own version of items with Alterra slogans and logos

[coral siren]

So yes seamoth, seaglide, prawn, and seatruck are all alterra

Since they have slogans

[sterile violet]

What was alterra purpose of studying khraa even

Releasing it would probably cripple their company and trans gov

[coral siren]

To cure it maybe

[sterile violet]

Alterra sells everything from chips to cyclops

[coral siren]

Research it's effects on creatures

It's something we do irl

[sterile violet]

There's probably more money to be found in the crator

Ion cubes

[coral siren]

Ion cubes

Yup

[sterile violet]

Also civilianzation

There's already a giant power network on the planet

[coral siren]

Alterra buildings can't resist a leviathan

[steel shoal]

Vinh was there to make a Kharaa mutation that eats diseases without harming humans.

[coral siren]

I don't think it'd be very suitable

[sterile violet]

There's places without levithans

A issue might be sea dragons coming out of the crator to hunt

[coral siren]

That is so unbelievably stupid

[limpid drum]

i mean it kinda isnt tho?

[steel shoal]

He talked about cancer and other stuff

[sterile violet]

Wait it's like 2280 and there's still no cure to cancer??

[coral siren]

Use one of the most devastating diseases known to cure other things

[limpid drum]

i mean a cure for all diseases would be immensely beneficial to any species that were able to make it.

[coral siren]

What even is the basis for this idea

[limpid drum]

i mean mold (very bad for you) made penicillin (very good for you) so the logic is kinda there

[coral siren]

Mold isn't a highly infectious disease that can bring a whole civilization to its knees

[limpid drum]

also cowpox stopping the spread of smallpox on an individual basis

both being infectious diseases

[sterile violet]

The tranfuser existing

[sterile violet]

Cowpow was a way less dangerous cousin of smallpox

[coral siren]

The transfuser doesn't exist

[sterile violet]

That was the basis of vaccines

[limpid drum]

yeah

[sterile violet]

Must be in lore

[coral siren]

There is no lore for the transfuser

[limpid drum]

transfuser was early access testing tool i believe

[coral siren]

Not testing, a never finished feature

[steel shoal]

The disease alters genetic code to destroy the host. What if we could make it so it alters genetic code to destroy the disease or something. It's not an easy task but he was there to try. And Sam stormed in with her conspiracies and almost killed him.

[coral siren]

Sam stormed in while being puppeted by marg

I think here ocean score said she had some paranoia

[limpid drum]

yeah for some reason the story revolves around robin going 'my sister is not negligent, they must have done something wrong in their investigation'
and then you find out that ||alterra was telling the truth the entire time, it was literally just negligence that caused her own death and the death of another alterra staff.||

[steel shoal]

No cut content is canon unless it shows up in a different game. Rock Punchers are not native to the Grand Reef.

[sterile violet]

Didn't sam kill two innocent people

[limpid drum]

something like that

[coral siren]

It makes sense because Robin is predisposed to hate alterra

So she wouldn't trust the easy answer

And had to find out for herself

[sterile violet]

Marg did end up making alterra leave

[steel shoal]

||It wasn't negligence, she died doing something unrelated to her job, but Alterra doesn't know so they assumed she wasn't careful with her job||

[sterile violet]

I don't think the researchers were armed at all

They had mining prawns

[coral siren]

||Yes... so uncareful she set off explosives they didn't bring to 4546b...||

[steel shoal]

They evacuated the area because of the meteor storm, not what Maida did with the explosions

[sterile violet]

Oh

[limpid drum]

what kinda annoys me about bz story is just how little robin did before going to the planet

like she seriously packed a life pod, some food and water and considered that enough on a planet she knew was dangerous to some degree

[sterile violet]

Doesn't she actually have less than riley

No medkit fab and droppod doesn't come with anything

[limpid drum]

technically yes but if you are counting all the items you find around your crash site, you get more

[coral siren]

She wasn't exactly going with permission

[limpid drum]

minus the medkit fabricator

[coral siren]

She gathered up all she could

[steel shoal]

She was running on "borrowed" equipment, Cal is getting in so much trouble

[limpid drum]

could she have not at least packed a first aid kit 😭

[sterile violet]

Did alterra encounter shadow levithans

[coral siren]

It's kinda sad since the equipment will never get retrieved

Cal is so getting fired

[steel shoal]

No, they never went that deep

[sterile violet]

I don't think it would be very good for their moral

[limpid drum]

yeah I dont think that alterra discovered the ||crystal caves||

which is kinda odd tbh

[sterile violet]

Seeing that horrifying thing

[coral siren]

Alterra couldn't even discover Alan

[limpid drum]

if they were able to set up bases everywhere else and had vehicles that could go that deep, why the hell would they have not found that cave entrance?

[coral siren]

These were scientists not explorers

[steel shoal]

They had no reason to explore, Lillian and Fred got in trouble for wandering around while transporting stuff.

[coral siren]

And for getting a seatruck destroyed

[sterile violet]

I mean yeah they got easily got killed in unknown waters

Freaky levithans like shadow levithans

[coral siren]

Or was it just some modules

Actually why are there so many seatruck parts scattered around

[sterile violet]

Scientists and miners were there

[limpid drum]

why wouldnt they be exploring though if they were looking for evidence of ||architects||

[steel shoal]

He ejected the modules and couldn't retrieve them, he was too scared of the squidshark

[sterile violet]

These people are NOT the explorers

[limpid drum]

i mean like if the sn1 protagonist told alterra anything they should be looking deeper and deeper like Riley had to do in the first game

[coral siren]

I mean i would be too judging on what happened in the trailer lol

[steel shoal]

The squidsharks in Twisty Bridges were a recurring problem

[coral siren]

Spilled coffee hurts...

[limpid drum]

where the hell are the explorers then

[sterile violet]

Alterra probably didn't send any

Or there at another sector or crator

[limpid drum]

thats just not logicial in my mind

[coral siren]

So recurring that there's dozens of each module and the seatruck itself ready to scan

[sterile violet]

Sector zero was probably a side project

Probably underfunded

[limpid drum]

this could be the case

in fact they might have been investigating every single thing they could find in the crater of Sn1

[sterile violet]

The crator was definitely the main focus

[limpid drum]

researching what was left there

[coral siren]

I guess you could make the argument that it's alot less because we only find small parts of each seatuck thing

Meaning parts got moved around over time

[sterile violet]

Those ion cubes

[steel shoal]

They are not paid to explore. Explorers likely came before Frostpack got set up and running. They might've marked certain areas as no-go zones, like the Chelicerate areas and the Crystal Caves.

[sterile violet]

They would be farming those up

Wouldn't sea dragons pose a issue to the ion farming

[coral siren]

There's a portal

So reapers might cause a problem

But not sea dragons

[sterile violet]

Oh yeah and riley already opened it

[limpid drum]

i honestly wonder if alterra considers killing leviathans an option

[coral siren]

I hope not

[sterile violet]

I don't really have issues with reapers near that portal

[limpid drum]

i mean they are a megacorporation, it could be in their best profits to kill anything that got in their way

its not outrageous to say that they would

[coral siren]

I don't like this theory

[sterile violet]

Only like the sea dragon could pose a real threat

Since it's strenght is insane

[limpid drum]

i mean for the sake of the leviathans I hope not but profit wise, it'd be an option that alterra could take

[steel shoal]

Not at all. Sonic Deterrents stop Dragons from getting close to the Primary Containment Facility.

[coral siren]

If they didn't go portal way they'd have to go straight through the dragons

[sterile violet]

Alterra would make way more money recording the levithans and posting it

[coral siren]

There is island portals though

[steel shoal]

Cyclops is more than prepared for the situation

[coral siren]

Convenient

[sterile violet]

A sea dragon going full force on a cyclops would tear it to shreds

"Guys i stole this werid big egg that was a bit spiky"

[coral siren]

I can see them loading up small vessels with ion cubes on the QEP with the use of the portals

[limpid drum]

speaking as a professional cyclops pilot, no

[coral siren]

Ez pz

[steel shoal]

The Cyclops can easily go undetected and has lots of defense mechanisms, including a Dragon-proof shield

[coral siren]

Never even have to touch the water

[sterile violet]

If you anger a dragon enough it could

Like stealing eggs

[limpid drum]

i mean yeah but they probably would have learned from the ||disease research facility||

to like... not steal leviathan eggs and expect to get off scott free

[sterile violet]

Oh yeah alterra read that pda

[coral siren]

If they thought sea dragon eggs were profitable they wouldn't care

But i don't see why they would

[limpid drum]

im 90% sure that riley's PDA was INSTANTLY confiscated by alterra when he got back home

[sterile violet]

They already had all his files

It got sent to alterra when he scanned anything

[steel shoal]

I'm sure Ryley willingly gave his PDA to Alterra

[coral siren]

That would probably make ryley the most impressive biologist to exist funnily

[steel shoal]

There's no signal

[sterile violet]

First creature layerra leaned about is reapers

[coral siren]

Research on sapient aliens and plenty more

[sterile violet]

Radio waves can get to 4546b

[coral siren]

Radio waves are extremely slow

[limpid drum]

i mean people in bz have art referencing the crater and its leviathans, including the SD, I think its safe to say that everything the player learned by the end of sn1, Alterra now knows

[steel shoal]

The Scanner generates its entries automatically on the spot, they aren't written by humans or uploaded to a network.

[sterile violet]

I actually don't think 4546b fauna would be considered that interesting by the galactic people

[coral siren]

Impressive pda and scanner ai

[sterile violet]

There's probably thousands of planets with way more extreme wildlife

[coral siren]

Sapient aliens are unheard of

[sterile violet]

Oh yeah archiets yeah

[steel shoal]

Elliot makes it very clear

[sterile violet]

Oh yeah sea emperor

Yeah that would definitely be galactic news

[steel shoal]

First time finding signs of sapient life

[coral siren]

And the warpers personal teleport tech

[sterile violet]

A animalistic creature is sapient

[coral siren]

That'd be a pretty penny to reverse engineer

[steel shoal]

humans are very animalistic

[sterile violet]

Wait everything is..

[steel shoal]

hairless primates

[sterile violet]

Lava Larva maybe

But they probably alrwsyd found another creature that eated electricity

[coral siren]

Well these hairless apes have the most powerful tool known

[sterile violet]

What about sea dragons

[coral siren]

Thumbs

[sterile violet]

I mean there's no way that anatomy is common at all

Melting down pieces of your body to fire as metors

[steel shoal]

Ryley is one of the most profitable employees, I'm certain he's resting, with no debt. The devs said he's comfortably at home.

[sterile violet]

His home is 4546b

[steel shoal]

It isn't

[coral siren]

I hope he found a wife/husband/partner

Ryley deserves love

[steel shoal]

Besides, the rocket only had fuel for a one-way trip to the nearest phasegate

[coral siren]

Andy don't lie, if you were in ryleys position you'd go right back to 4546b

[sterile violet]

He died from mesmeror overdose at 26 after he was saddened that alterra reported his cuddlefish as dead

How is ryley actually mentally function

Like he must been without contact for months

[coral siren]

He had fish

[sterile violet]

After the radio messages it's a long while before sea emperor

And it's a really long while he actually walks to something in person

[coral siren]

Fish is all that's needed

He probably talked to his pda aswell

Not that it would talk back

[sterile violet]

Is the pda actually ai

Like it chatgpt

[steel shoal]

Yes

[sterile violet]

So that's how he kept his mental state going

[coral siren]

I don't think it can hold a conversation

[steel shoal]

It can, but it doesn't want to

[sterile violet]

Convo with pda would definitely be something

[coral siren]

Why is she so rude >:(

[steel shoal]

The PDA seems really uninterested

[coral siren]

But... ryley lonely

Atleast it's not sassy like the bz pda

[steel shoal]

But as we can see from Albert, Alterran AIs can have conversations

[limpid drum]

doesnt it say something when you hatch an egg like 'Keeping a pet is [blah blah blah] good for mental health during this time'

[coral siren]

Who's Albert

[steel shoal]

Berkeley's drone

[coral siren]

Who's Berkeley

[steel shoal]

Engineer at the Aurora

CTO Yu's coworker

[coral siren]

I swear I read that as berdly at first >->

[steel shoal]

Shared Lifepod 2 with her, died on the way to Rendezvous

[coral siren]

Ohhh gotcha gotcha

"Drone get me a propulsion cannon"

[steel shoal]

That one

[coral siren]

Cto yu named the drone

That's funny

[final crypt]

Is that...
An undertale reference?

[coral siren]

Uh

No it's a delta rune reference

[final crypt]

[steel shoal]

Do you smell what I smell?

#off-topic in my #below-zero-chat?

[coral siren]

No Andy i swear

[final crypt]

Oopsie daisy

[coral siren]

Please be gentle...

[final crypt]

I'm too silly for this place

[steel shoal]

too late, firing off super mega death ray

[coral siren]

I use mirror

🪞

[steel shoal]

I use Maida's unstable explosives

[sterile violet]

Creepvine!. Nah man I don't want no Damm creepvine. CREEPVINE!. What's wrong with creepvine bro. I don't want no Creepvine. Creepvine no no Creepvine no good no no. What no

[coral siren]

So we both die

[steel shoal]

It was negligence, trust

[coral siren]

Alterra please send in a clean up crew on isle #below-zero-chat ... we have another case of "negligence"

[sterile violet]

What if lifepod 2 landed in the ghost river

Trajectory stuff

[coral siren]

Yknow I'm actually curious

It's entirely possible some pods landed in open ocean

Past where the ghost population would be highest

Are there any survivors out there-

[final crypt]

Eat the ghost leviathan :3

[sterile violet]

A lifepod that had a thing to filter mirco organisms out of water for food. Just a guy in the guy in a lifepod in the middle of the void

[final crypt]

It's jello :3

[coral siren]

It'd have a consistency closer to ballistic gel I think

[steel shoal]

We find a really good amount of pods near the Aurora, I don't think there would be that many far away. But the Aurora confirms there's nobody else alive in a really large area.

[sterile violet]

A lifepod crashed into the sector

It's 15 km away from the crator

[coral siren]

It's kinda disturbing to think about just how many died in the aurora pods

The other half that couldn't launch

Well roughly half

[final crypt]

I wonder if the regular is available in fabricators...

[coral siren]

Whats "the regular"

[steel shoal]

They were close to the planet when they got hit, only started evacuation after the descent started. Keen was in the bridge with the captain and got all the way down to the pods, somehow.

[sterile violet]

The sandwich?

[steel shoal]

The regular is funny but it's yet another plot hole

[coral siren]

Maybe alterra has secret teleport tech, probably not but the timing is weird

[sterile violet]

Jailbroken fabricator on the mercury 2 could make falafel

So it would make a sandwich also

[final crypt]

Maybe alterra has the sandwich recipe...

[steel shoal]

Alterrans only eat synthesized food, and feel very strongly about dirt food. And wheat comes from dirt

[coral siren]

But the torgals had potatoes

Ig they are more accepting of dirt food

[steel shoal]

Mercury II was not Alterran, Mongols didn't have synthesized food based diets

[sterile violet]

Mercury 2 was solar corporation

[steel shoal]

and as you said, it was a jailbroken fabricator

[sterile violet]

Or sol

[coral siren]

Did the nutrition bricks atleast have different flavors

[sterile violet]

I think the point of blocks is to be tasteless and only Marcos

[steel shoal]

I don't think flavor was the appeal, it was more about being fast to eat. "nutrition cubes" vibes

[coral siren]

I hate it

[steel shoal]

Tasteless cubes that hold all the nutrients for a meal

[sterile violet]

Ultra processed diet

[coral siren]

Food is lifes greatest pleasure

[steel shoal]

It's not processed, technically

[sterile violet]

Ewww food is just a time waster

Back to work fixing up our prawns

[steel shoal]

Why spend so much time eating with others when you could eat as you walk back to your shift?

[sterile violet]

You have kyanite duty in lava lakes, we might raise your pay from 10 to 15 alterra credits a day

[steel shoal]

Besides, everyone has a fabricator at home

[final crypt]

Why eat anything when you could eat the regular??

[sterile violet]

100% synthetically made

[coral siren]

Can I atleast have a synthetic smoothie

[sterile violet]

Made to replicate a ancient delicacy of from the 20s

[steel shoal]

The regular is gross and the Alterra HQ people are exceptions to the rule. Alterrans don't like non synthetic food

[coral siren]

With extra strawberry to spite Andy

[sterile violet]

The 2020s

[steel shoal]

Strawburrai? Take it with you

[sterile violet]

Your mountly allocated lunchly and prime is ready

[coral siren]

I'll get you to drink the strawburrais

One day

[sterile violet]

We discovered sea dragons eggs are profitable

So your gonna have to collect them

[steel shoal]

Alterra doesn't treat their workers as slaves

[sterile violet]

Even miners and construction?

[steel shoal]

They are actually really fair, they just have a very "brainwash" culture

[final crypt]

What if instead of mining...
We all ordered the regular?

[coral siren]

I banish thee to sn1 chat

[steel shoal]

Fred is a truck driver and he lives more than comfortably

[coral siren]

We only talk of spicy salad here

[final crypt]

^.^

The regular is better you hooligan

[steel shoal]

Hmmm mutes and bans are even better - for me, not much for you

[coral siren]

🎵It's not the best choiceeeeeee, it's alterras choice🎵

[sterile violet]

Oh

You would get paid highly for mining in lava lakes and lava zone

[coral siren]

If anyone gets the reference

I'll give you a cookie ig

[steel shoal]

And have access to lots of equipment and safety features

[sterile violet]

I feel like even if alterra found this out it would just be too risky

[final crypt]

That's it. I've been holding back. Now I'm gonna eat sector zero

[coral siren]

Don't do it

[steel shoal]

Cool. A fresh new taste. Want ice with that?

[sterile violet]

Like statis rifle and stuff

[coral siren]

I've gotten a special mute from Andy

She's ruthless

[sterile violet]

Yeah the risk of death is just so high down there

[steel shoal]

Stasis Rifle doesn't work against leviathans

lorewise, that is

[limpid drum]

huh

[sterile violet]

I feel like they would just send robots to mine

[limpid drum]

why would it work ingame then

[steel shoal]

It only works with creatures smaller than the bubble

[sterile violet]

If a sea dragon attacks it's just gonna be bad

[coral siren]

To make it easier to scan things is my guess

[limpid drum]

what if they made like... a prawn suit sized stasis rifle that has a bubble like the size of any leviathan

[steel shoal]

The Stasis Rifle was poorly designed, no wonder they removed it instead of trying to balance it

[sterile violet]

Alterra does have like mining robots yeah

Kyanite a resource that can picked up sooop

[limpid drum]

i feel like its both underpowered and overpowered somehow

[orchid rune]

Hi, I'm new. Can someone tell me where to build the base?

[limpid drum]

if your trying to use it to flee, you cant, the duration isnt nearly long enough to give you a fighting chance
and you can instead just stunlock the leviathan and kill it with a knife because... logic

[sterile violet]

Statis rifle does not make sense physics wise

[steel shoal]

Wherever you find prettiest. People like building near Delta Island though, since it's in the middle of the map

[sterile violet]

I don't think a small battery can make enough energy to slow down time to that degree

Iron oxide and titanium = stopping time

[limpid drum]

thats kind of a decision that you should make on your own, although heres some factors I would consider:

• food/water = biomes that dont have fish arent gonna be helpful in this category
• looks = pretty purple lights make me happy
• hostile creatures = what is gonna try to kill me
• resources = can I get the basics (titanium,copper,gold,silver,etc) easily enough?

but ultimately you can decide on wherever

[orchid rune]

One thing where I find gold

[steel shoal]

That is probably an exploit. The damage was there for small fish, parasites and plants/coral

[limpid drum]

calverite outcrops, they spawn underneeth the arctic kelp biome in caves and near delta station

[sterile violet]

Inner crystal caverns near the cache

[limpid drum]

they look a lot like sandstone outcrops from the 1st game, same model even I think

[sterile violet]

Just be warned this spot is right in the path of a shadow levithan

[steel shoal]

Giving the leviathans thousands of HP wasn't enough to dissuade players from killing them, and removing their health bar would result in some people getting upset, since it is nice to have some sandbox power. I'm glad the lead designer wants creatures to be invulnerable to damage in SN2

[sterile violet]

Wait all creatures?

Now I'm realizing i have killed so many bone sharks, snow stalkers , lava lizards and river prowlers

[limpid drum]

probably all the leviathans and some hostile creatures

[steel shoal]

The Stasis Rifle removes all danger from the game, and with it, all the scary ambiance and fear of what comes next. And being able to kill everything makes it so you don't have to think about avoiding creatures, you can just kill them and move on.

[sterile violet]

It's not really that hard to get either

Just loot up jellyshroom degasi

[steel shoal]

He said leviathans and sharks. Most carnivores are labeled as sharks.

[coral siren]

I'm assuming most everything hostile will be invulnerable

[sterile violet]

Invulnerable crash fish

[limpid drum]

i feel like the stasis rifle should have had like a health to its bubble instead of a timer
so like if you stasis rifle'd a leviathan, it could get rid of the bubble in like 3 bites instead of always taking 5 seconds

[sterile violet]

Early and late game subnautica vibes are Completely diffent

[steel shoal]

It's preferable not to have it

Many people think BZ is better without it, and I must agree

[limpid drum]

yeah, it does kinda make zero sense and defeats a lot of the fear

[steel shoal]

Removing it was a bold move, but I suppose they tried to balance it before coming to the conclusion that it just doesn't belong

[limpid drum]

it does just water down the fear aspect of the game

[sterile violet]

No it dries it up

[coral siren]

The perimeter defense system works in its place as a defense

[limpid drum]

'oh no a leviathans approaching'
-5 minutes later-
its dead now

kinda stupid

[sterile violet]

The statis rifle being too op was replaced with the seatruck defense system being op

[limpid drum]

perimiter defense system works well without being OP

[sterile violet]

You can kill a levithan easily with a seatruck and pds

I mean I never tired it

[coral siren]

Mostly because both leviathans do a grab move that you can instantly get out of

[limpid drum]

yeah imo the BZ leviathans are just like... more boring then in sn1?

[sterile violet]

I have low key killed a load of squidsharks with seatruck

[limpid drum]

its like none of them have unique attacks besides maybe the ice worm

they all just try to bite you like the reaper

[sterile violet]

Shadow levithan is disturbing

It shoves you inside it's stomach

[coral siren]

I like shadow

[limpid drum]

yeah but its another just grabby animation that you can easily get out of with perimiter defense

theres no fireballs from hell or full speed rams like in the first game that like... differentiated what could happen

[sterile violet]

Shadow levithan should have had cloaking

[limpid drum]

that would have actually been really cool

people would have probably hated it tho for being so hard to counter

maybe they could have utilized the flares and made its cloak ability dissapear when under bright light or smthn

or when shone with your vehicles headlights from closeish distance

[sterile violet]

Also it should have gone full on into body horror

Detained view of its stomach's before you die

It rips the player in half and forces them into its stomach before completely digusting the player in 10 seconds

[steel shoal]

Projectiles were buggy and weird, I can understand why they didn't add them to the game. I think the leviathans are fine. Design wise, significant improvement in every regard. Animations, I like them better than SN's grabs, they feel like more is going on. Reaper was just a milkshake pov and SD's grab was only interesting because you're sideways. I suppose there isn't very deep gameplay with the leviathans, but it was the same in SN.

[coral siren]

The seamoth SD grab looked pretty cool

[sterile violet]

Oh and a load of horrible screaming

Issue would be it might effect rating..

[steel shoal]

Remember Subnautica is a 12+ game

Blood can't even be red

[coral siren]

Well brief looks at ryleys can

[sterile violet]

Player melts into inside the shadows stomach for 10 second before dying

It would be purple because shadows acid is blue

[coral siren]

The fish blood being yellow looks more alien though so I like it better than red blood

[steel shoal]

Ryley is fine but the creatures' red blood increased the rating

[coral siren]

I think it's just because ryleys isn't played up at all

It's just a hud effect really

[sterile violet]

Yeah the shadows levithan digusting might be a bit much

[steel shoal]

Bleeders

[coral siren]

This is true

Why you always gotta be so smart

[steel shoal]

I don't know

behave please

[coral siren]

I'm the best behaved person you know

Totally

[sterile violet]

From the crash fish to the reaper to the dragon to the || emperor|| where's my || enzyme || 🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣️

[limpid drum]

... no

[sterile violet]

From the squid shark to the chillerate, to the ice worm to the shadow levithan where's my body🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Is AL-ANS new body still water + sigma + talk tuah + lunchly + prime + noradrinline + adrenaline + mango + phonk

[coral siren]

Huh?

[sterile violet]

I like my peepers drippy bruh

[sterile violet]

It's a bunch of brainrot terms

[coral siren]

Clearly

Banned

[sterile violet]

[coral siren]

Banned.

[echo notch]

hey does the sea truck horsepower upgrade stack?

[eternal garnet]

no

[echo notch]

ok thanks

[coral siren]

I still find it really funny how many modules the seatruck can tow

I don't think there's really a hard limit

[eternal garnet]

We failed at finding one. 100+

[coral siren]

Sounds right lol

[next current]

[neat burrow]

gods help me

[eternal garnet]

The truck has help in an upgrade. Prawn, not so much

[sterile violet]

It's a beautiful area

Inner crystal cache kinda does lack a lot of convenience

Shadow levithans make building hard and dangerous and there's no power sources

[eternal garnet]

bio, nuclear

[sterile violet]

I routed thermal power from tree spires lava geyser

[junior light]

a hamster wheel but for leviathans should be your best power source

[eternal garnet]

I nearly included that option

[sterile violet]

The lava geyser to right above the crystal caverns cache

[sterile violet]

I did have a idea for power that was a underwater waterwheel

And it would suck in fishes also

And it's more efficient the deeper it is

[neat burrow]

i will explore it when im done eating my kebab

[junior light]

"are you sure whatever you're doing is worth it" was far better than this

[sterile violet]

What if the shadow levithan jammed the pda

And it just said "warning a" and turned to static

And the shadow did one of its noises after it

[neat burrow]

i woulda loved if it was just silent and did little coos like how t-rex's actually sound

the shadow i mean

[sterile violet]

Like when the aurora explosion happens but way more distorted

[sterile violet]

Hmmm

What if it had cloak ability and it only did coos when it was cloaked

[neat burrow]

like the indominous rex from jurassic world

that would be sick but horrorfying

[sterile violet]

With camouflage abilities also

[neat burrow]

it can camo

the rex

[sterile violet]

Yeah

A lava zone in below zero

I mean that how those crystals must have formed

Maybe there's a lava zone under the two crystal cavern and fabricator caverns

Mercury 2 wrecks

Yes you do

I think all of them have it

[gusty wyvern]

hi

[neat burrow]

you can find it in multiple places

there is one in the delta station cave bit

on a desk

[eternal garnet]

Best spot is 120m deep in twisty bridge canyon, because it also has the High cap o2

[torpid dew]

Anyone know where to find ||squidshark eggs||?

[next current]

There's two and only two in the lower chamber of the Deep Lilypad Caverns.

[torpid dew]

Only 2?

[next current]

Yup.

Throughout the entire map, you'll only be able to find those two.

[echo notch]

||do you need multiple viles of enysme42 to cure the frozen livithan||

[eternal garnet]

no

recipe is just incase you lose it

[echo notch]

Oh ok

Thanks

[torpid dew]

Is there a ||vent garden|| egg?

I want one

[eternal garnet]

no

[torpid dew]

Dang it

[torpid dew]

Where would one obtain diamonds

[tight kernel]

Near lava

[sterile violet]

Should I beat the game

[sterile violet]

No

You can use commands to summon it, both of the types

Mercury 2

Im the front piece

[sterile violet]

What signal leads to the end of the game?

Also what does thruster upgrade do

[waxen ore]

Yo, does anybody wanna do a voice call in the discord

I just started below zero 1 hours ago

If yes go to public voice chat

[sterile violet]

I spawned 10 ice worms and made snowfox op

[waxen ore]

Ok

I’m streaming

Does anyone else want to join?

Does anyone wanna watch my stream?

[steel shoal]

You can't stream in the server.

[waxen ore]

I am right now

[steel shoal]

Are you really?

[waxen ore]

Yes

[steel shoal]

There's nothing playing

Xbox doesn't know streaming is disabled in the server

[waxen ore]

Oh

Ok

[fervent cypress]

yall know those little research stations on single foundations scattered around

anyone got the wiki page for them or a photo

[eternal garnet]

Here's one. 120m

[waxen ore]

Does anyone want to go into a voice call?

If yes go to public voice

[keen dagger]

How bad is this guy? I imagine pretty bad right. I'm afraid to scan it.

Also there is a ship at the bottom here but I can't see to find a way to access it.

I've been all around it.

[eternal garnet]

It's harmless.
Yes you can enter the ship. Lower left side

make the compass, it's cheap

[keen dagger]

This side?

[olive aspen]

Man i cant wait to finally get Below Zero aswell

[keen dagger]

Ok I thought I didn't spoiler it, so this side? These loud sharks are terrifying

[eternal garnet]

cannot identify

just try all 4 lower corners. 2 of them are open

[keen dagger]

I am inside one of the ships underwater and I'm stuck :(

[eternal garnet]

literally stuck, use esc / Unstuck

[keen dagger]

It has a bunch of those oxygen plants and a PDA but I keep going in a circle trying to find my way out

[eternal garnet]

yep

[keen dagger]

no direction wise as finding my way out

[eternal garnet]

go thru the laser cut door to leave

Not clear what I mean, but hey

[keen dagger]

There's no other way to leave is there, I got here somehow

without the laser cutter

[eternal garnet]

There are three exits I think

[keen dagger]

has no laser cutter

[eternal garnet]

oh you should get that

[keen dagger]

I'm literally stuck

as in I can't find an exit

Oh wait I found it

😮‍💨

yes will get compass and laser cutter

that was pretty terrible

I don't recall having this much trouble with the first one.

Found some lilypads :)

[coral siren]

Was the first one the thrusters?

[keen dagger]

Yes

That's what I saw most of anyway :D

The shark things kept making loud noises, so I probably didnt explore there enough.

I don't like these at all. It seems the map is plagued with them.

And I didn't kill it haha just had the knife

[eternal garnet]

they are only near delta island

[coral siren]

They are also more bark than bite

[keen dagger]

I like being able to keep the health pack in my hotbar :)

By the way as promised I now have a laser cutter and compass!

I find the sharks more scary than the reaper.

[eternal garnet]

did you scan the map at delta?

[keen dagger]

I think I did

[eternal garnet]

if so it's in PDA under info / maps

[keen dagger]

let me see

[coral siren]

I wish the squid shark could do the move we saw in the trailer

Open up its mouth and ram the front of the seatruck

[keen dagger]

This one

[waxen ore]

Does anybody wanna join the voice channel?

[eternal garnet]

yes. North is always up on sane maps

[waxen ore]

I just got Below Zero an hour ago

[keen dagger]

Well of course.

What do the markings mean?

[coral siren]

Greek alphabet

[keen dagger]

Oh that's just cute

Ok I get it I will explore :þ

So those sharks pictures above with "more bark than bite" do they holler out like that everytime they attack something? Or do they do that only when they notice the player?

Because I have to say, I really really hate them.

I also found a place with resources galore!

Yay found my first alien artifact :)

[next current]

LAMBDA?! [Valve intro plays]

[keen dagger]

Yep good times

lol

[sterile violet]

What happened to Riley

Did he get arrested, killed or is he safe and well

[next current]

The fate of Ryley is unknown (worlds).

[keen dagger]

I found my first Chilicerate or whatever that is

[limpid drum]

whats this room back here

I found it at phi robotics

heres a further back photo aswell

[sterile violet]

It's the entrance to the back rooms

Do not go through

[limpid drum]

what is it tho

[sterile violet]

Idk

[limpid drum]

ill check it in creative mode

im guessing you need a propulsion cannon or smthn to get in

[sterile violet]

Don't get your save borked

With the backrooms

[limpid drum]

ima just try and see if propulsion cannon works on it

if it does and theres some pdas or smthn behind it i wont read em

update: its just a crapton of storage containers

i guess its a nice place to raid for supplies

[graceful tiger]

You do

[limpid drum]

do you guys like my seatruck

very fast

i navigated it down here somehow

this might actually be playable

[frigid viper]

Love it

[limpid drum]

should I do a run where I have to use that seamoth

seatruck*

[frigid viper]

Yes.

Absolutely.

[limpid drum]

ok, once I beat the game first 😭

[sterile violet]

You should use commands to spawn modding tables and stuff inside the truck

Did Marg kill the ice worm

[coral siren]

No

[keen dagger]

I do

[limpid drum]

no but she did kill ||a chelicerate||

[coral siren]

I think specifically a juvenile one

[limpid drum]

maybe im not really sure

its confirmed tho since theres the mandible or whatever name of the part on her prawn suit

of the leviathan

[limpid drum]

alright well that confirms it

[coral siren]

Idk if young is the same as juvenile though tbf

[next current]

Yes.

[knotty dock]

when will below zero get a discount on steam

[bold monolith]

Just add it in your wish list and you'll have a notification when it will be on sale.

Which happens quite regularly.

https://steamdb.info/app/848450/

[drowsy stirrup]

Yup, love it

[fathom marsh]

crystal caverns music started here, lmao

[broken badge]

What I find interesting is the inclusion of Koppa in the game, given it’s no longer used in the “modern” Greek alphabet It is sometimes used numerically in Greek according to what I’ve read, but was replaced by Kappa in terms of alphabetical use

I noticed this when I played the game. Courtesy of an education rich in science, math and other associated subjects, I was familiar with much of the Greek alphabet, used as symbols😅

[keen dagger]

Can someone tell me the depth limit to the sea truck when you first construct it?

I don't see it at the top like in the first game.

My compass seems to replace what it said.

Oh wait is it 150?

[eternal garnet]

yes. it will upgrade to go to any biome

[keen dagger]

I see. So as of now the crush limit is 150, less than the seamoth :(

[coral siren]

Huh neat, thanks for the knowledge

[keen dagger]

Oh hi.

[broken badge]

Hi👋

[keen dagger]

She swims so slow! I am glad to see a ultra tank though.

I need two more scans for the ultra :/

[eternal garnet]

a difficult find

[craggy mesa]

is it possible to beat below zero without ever encountering the strange lady with a black exosuit ?

[eternal garnet]

yes

[keen dagger]

Uhm why?

[eternal garnet]

you are drugged by a lilypaddler

[coral siren]

Uhm... don't you have to go to delta Island?

[eternal garnet]

not really no

[keen dagger]

Is there a half-life to this?

[craggy mesa]

I believe she will not attack me if I'm inside an exosuit

[eternal garnet]

it's very short

Maida never attacks

[keen dagger]

Oh it's gone :o

Thanks.

[coral siren]

Recreational lilypaddler

[keen dagger]

?

[eternal garnet]

hints for ultra tank: ||The huge kelp forest west of tree spires and twisty bridges. Nests there. And nests in crevices around lilypad center||

[keen dagger]

Eats Robin or not

[coral siren]

Squidshark?

[keen dagger]

Ok thank you

[eternal garnet]

edited, added

[keen dagger]

I thought those only existed in Deep Twisty Bridges :(

[craggy mesa]

I believe there's only 1 in the Deep