#below-zero-chat

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echo trail
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I think I should ping a mod. In fact I just did!

snow dust
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oh

steel shoal
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Further confirms that BZ was an innovative spin-off

snow dust
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i hope it somehow ties into BZ or atleast some cameo

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like references

steel shoal
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I'm certain the damages done to Alterra in BZ are of some importance, but we are in a different planet now.

echo trail
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New info

steel shoal
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but I'm scared

echo trail
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Lmao

snow dust
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and i like how the whole architect race couldnt cure the kharaa bacteria but then some random xenoworks employee comes and does what dozens of alien advanced species couldnt do

echo trail
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Let me write that down somewhere

snow dust
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what was it 👀

echo trail
steel shoal
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hm

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apparently

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the enzyme recipe is not supposed to be taken as canon

echo trail
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Ah

steel shoal
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it's just in case you lose the item

echo trail
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I guess they needed to do something

snow dust
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ngl i hope subnautica 2 is a giant game

snow dust
echo trail
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I would prefer a good game over a giant game. If I wanted to play subnautica instead of a new game I would just save my money

snow dust
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and is good of course

steel shoal
echo trail
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I wouldn't mind that although I'm going in as unspoiled as I can

echo trail
steel shoal
echo trail
snow dust
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do mods get any extra info

steel shoal
echo trail
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Playtesters do tho

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~~ if I'm wrong don't ban me ~~

snow dust
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and are mods like officially part of unknown worlds "team" or are they just an extension with the purpose to enforce the rules on the discord

steel shoal
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We're not employees, we're like volunteers picked by them to help them out

snow dust
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oh alr

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just curious thats all

echo trail
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Unpaid

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Kinda the definition of volunteers nvm

steel shoal
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Don't make me feel bad about spending my time here 😭

echo trail
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I'm sorry Andy

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trivalveblue here's a blue trivalve to make you feel better

snow dust
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but in all seriousness some servers actually pay people to moderate? ☠️

steel shoal
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Thank you

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Yes

echo trail
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Kinda weird, you could get free volunteers

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Anyways this is getting off topic

steel shoal
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You all should play Below Zero

echo trail
snow dust
steel shoal
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Is it working?

snow dust
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errrr

echo trail
steel shoal
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Though question

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I personally really like the Ice Worm, but it's not a fish

snow dust
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i like its design

steel shoal
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Yea, Chelicerate is my favorite water leviathan

echo trail
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What if we remove levithans?

snow dust
steel shoal
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Oop

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Pinnicarid

echo trail
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Those little red fish?

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Shallow waters?

steel shoal
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Red Feather fish is nice but Pinnicarid >>>>

echo trail
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Oh those are cool

snow dust
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i sasw some vid which had a cool biome about like a void or black mist with "tentacles" of sorts which would try and pull you under

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but its kinda generic and wouldnt fit right imo

steel shoal
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I don't think it was ever taken into consideration. Not very fun to play, or possible to develop.

coral siren
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The single cell biome?

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That thing was awesome and yalls opinions suck

coarse holly
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i am now here

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hello people

coral siren
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Bold of you to assume I'm people

topaz breach
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if u die do levithans keep their health?

coral siren
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Yes

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It never regenerates

echo trail
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Poor levithans

civic furnace
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They just wanna live

slim cedar
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||where are the seatruck fragments?||

ember holly
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in the sea

rare surge
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there somewhere

steel shoal
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Deeper Twisty Bridges

gusty yarrow
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I can't find new ones, for sea truck, only ones I have

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Like storage or fabricator

coral siren
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Would you be okay with spoilers on where they are?

gusty yarrow
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Yeah, I'm pretty far in the story need help with one other thing also

coral siren
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Storage module: ||Deep twisty bridges||
Fabricator Module: ||Deep twisty bridges or Purple vents||

echo trail
coral siren
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Oh... I'm stupid

gusty yarrow
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I meant I don't have them

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I have mostly all other ones,

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But if there's some I'm not sure about then idk,

coral siren
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Well there's one module that's more secretive

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Keep scanning alien stuff to figure that out

gusty yarrow
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Is sleeper module worth it?

coral siren
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I like it, it has a jukebox and the aforementioned bed

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Oh and a picture frame

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Little bit of comfort when far from home

steel stream
coral siren
eternal garnet
coral siren
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They run off the chance system too?

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Like is there a potential of none being there

steel stream
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Not sure how seatruck modules work, but apparently fragments in sea monkey caves are more or less hand-placed, and always in same spots. Then again for example seaglide fragments are random like in the first game.

eternal garnet
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yes. I'd say most fragments are hand placed and not random

coral siren
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Interesting change in design choice

visual willow
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I made it through the main story!

coral siren
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Good stuff :3

shell plank
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Hey! Does the Headlamp goes on head insert like rebreather? So just useful outside? I’m asking before crafting it if it’s useless 🙂

eternal garnet
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it does yes

coral siren
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Why do people refer to it as the prawn headlamp

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Does it work in a prawn or sumin

eternal garnet
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don't know, but the prawn has lamps

coral siren
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Ye that makes it even more confusing to me

shell plank
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Just asking, if it goes like the compass or on head, but it only on head, so useful outside water if u not using prawn on ground by night 🙂 I will put one inside my seatruck
Thank u for answers guys!

coral siren
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Ohhh i found something cool

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Prawn mightve been inspired by the JIM suit

steel shoal
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@hot spoke The ending is open-ended on purpose. It doesn't seem to have had a sequel in mind, it's more like "up to the player to interpret what's next"

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I hope we get a BZ2, though

hot spoke
steel shoal
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This is speculation, but Subnautica seems to be about Alterra expansionism, and Below Zero about the aftermath only.

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Which would fit right in with SN2 being in a different planet

steel shoal
hot spoke
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yeah you have Subnautica that leaves off with unfinished plot lines and BZ ties them up with a good-bye message for future games to be made

steel shoal
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Would be cool if Subnautica became the Fallout of underwater survival games, with multiple titles and spin-offs. It's hard to guess the direction the devs are taking when we only have one main game and a spin-off. They're pulling in different directions.

hot spoke
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i do see the game having a main narrative of the underwater-like gameplay and the alterra corp, and then spin-offs for the main games that tie up loose ends that they leave

carmine bobcat
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how does the ecosystem of sector zero exist after the ||Kharra outbreak ||considering there is no ||Sea Emperor to produce enzyme 42||? The only reason the crater wasn't ravaged was because Peepers were taking it to the surface.

eternal garnet
steel shoal
eternal garnet
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Peepers with orifices?

carmine bobcat
steel shoal
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They're connected to the digestive system, and they throw everything inside the stomach/intestines out, to make space for the enzyme. They also have a nasal cavity, for the same purpose.

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The PDA says they're seemingly useless, but then you find out their usage after another scan.

chrome cedar
# carmine bobcat ||yes but there was over a 1000 year period between the initial outbreak and the...

Obviously the disease wasn't deadly enough to impact the ecosystems of the planet prior to there being a cure. The abundance of life seems to indicate that for the most part creatures survived just fine. We only have a limited dataset of the effects on humans (some died, some didn't), and we don't know the exact effect on the Architect race either. Saying something is deadly doesn't mean instant.

steel shoal
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Lifeforms died within days/weeks, except for a select few. These were researched by the aliens.

chrome cedar
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I choose not to trust data from the architects. They obviously aren't infoolable.

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Also, there is ||Marguerit||. So obviously not days/weeks for all.

steel shoal
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The Degasi survived a couple years. ||Maida was inside a Reaper, the PDA says leviathan stomachs have a similar enzyme that provides some resistance to the infection. It's not strong enough, so all leviathans are sick||

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Important to note that certain parts of her story don't make sense at all, like Maida's bases. I don't think it's worth trying to explain that.

neon birch
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ive played quite a bit of subnautica 2 now, and i feel like the map is way smaller, the game is playing way faster then subnautica 1. plus that the small map is being hidden by making us slower even tho its not fooling people.

coral siren
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The swimming speeds in bz and sn1 are the same

neon birch
coral siren
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Feels isn't the same as is

neon birch
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i am pretty sure it is

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if i try to swim up i can make more meters in subnautica 1

coral siren
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The base swim speed is 5.75m/s under water and 6.14m/s on the surface.

neon birch
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i think

coral siren
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In both games

neon birch
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then the map is just smaller

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and at the start we get a quest we cant even complete till the end?

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and getting diamonds is also very hard when you can go 300m max with the truck

coral siren
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You can complete the quest as soon as you get a ||spy pengling||

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And diamonds can be found in the same spot you got the blueprints for the seatruck

neon birch
coral siren
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It's not the end either

neon birch
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btw could you tell me if i almost finished the game cuz then i need to go slower

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just got to the point i found the levi, and that i need to go close to that starting quest thing about the alien stuff

coral siren
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Which levi?

neon birch
coral siren
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That's not even part of the main quest

neon birch
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well rn i am at the part that i need to get the robot out of my head

coral siren
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Just continue doing that

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You aren't very far

neon birch
eternal garnet
steel shoal
bold monolith
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Is it?

steel shoal
bold monolith
steel shoal
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Context please

bold monolith
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My swimming speed without fins.

steel shoal
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I don't know the values of the first game

bold monolith
steel shoal
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oh I see

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then why does the wiki say-

bold monolith
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Robin swims slower, it's intended.

steel shoal
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I'm an orange role, I'll fix it

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Deep sigh

echo trail
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Gl

steel shoal
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I've been fooled for so long ohno

bold monolith
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She even has a penalty when she's exploring the wrecks.

steel shoal
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Why?

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I noticed Seaglide is affected by gear but another penalty??

bold monolith
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To ease the navigation I assume.

steel shoal
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I wish PS4 had the F key that shows that information, I'd love to get a new table with the correct numbers

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Check if any other value is wrong

deep kettle
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Andy spreading misinformation smh 😔

bold monolith
steel shoal
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Thom, why must you always mock me for my mistakes 😭

deep kettle
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I would never ❤️

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Not like I remember it my self, I thought it was just the vehicles and seaglide that were slower 😂

steel shoal
bold monolith
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I won't do everything, but you get the idea. Everything is slower.

steel shoal
coral siren
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Why must the wiki lead me in the wrong direction at every turn

broken badge
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Does BZ slow you down because the map is smaller?😅

coral siren
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I would imagine so yes

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It's a development trick that's been in use since well... the start of 3d games

broken badge
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You do autorun in air environments
So at least you appear to move faster, on land for example
Although that’s not much of a fair comparison since Subnautica doesn’t have much land to begin with😂

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I think the autorun feature can be changed in settings

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You can toggle to run, walk or whatever

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Same in Subnautica iirc

coral siren
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I think these games work best with minimal land

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The games just dont really work all too well with land

broken badge
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I enjoy the mix, while I agree it’d be weird without a significant underwater experience, I do like having some land experience as well

coral siren
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It feels kinda clunky

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Maybe sn2 can make it feel less so

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But as of now it kinda feels like a half baked feature

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It's serviceable for sure, just not polished

broken badge
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Well when it’s a new feature, and this (BZ) went through some changes like to the story that weren’t exactly smooth for the team, no doubt that had ripple effects with some stuff maybe not getting all the focus they would’ve liked to have given. But I still think the land scenery is very beautiful and wish we could grow a lot of the various land plants in our bases for decor. I don’t know many issues for land segments other than maybe some parkour is a bit weird in crevices and some have issues with prawn etc falling through terrain, but those should be addressable I think. It was ambitious adding the land sections and I thought they were very nice aesthetically and hope to have more interesting areas to explore, both above and below the water❤️

coral siren
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The looks are perfect, i have no notes

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It's the feel of traversing that I have a problem with

broken badge
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The snowfox could’ve had some more tweaking😅

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Vehicles are always complex beasts I’m gonna guess

coral siren
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I meant on foot lmao

broken badge
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What issues did you have with foot traversal?

coral siren
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I personally never really used the snowfox in favor of the prawn

coral siren
sterile violet
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Did alterra get a hold of khraa

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Sam suicide bombed the levithan but it didn't get that damaged right

snow dust
chrome cedar
sterile violet
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And than khraa gets mutated in natural selection 2

broken badge
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Maybe real labs would’ve asked too many questions

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(Legit ones anyway)

charred canyon
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Probably did

broken badge
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Well the omega lab certainly scorched everything, flash burn
I think Sam was going for a “seal it all up so nothing but extremely heavy equipment” could ever reach again (which for a remote outpost, would be keeping it out of reach for as long as was feasible as she could muster without involving anyone else, which she really couldn’t trust anyone else, so she was in a tight spot

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I don’t know that she really meant it to be a seal her own fate thing, but idk for sure

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Could have been, or left to interpretation

chrome cedar
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That never made any sense to me, since they found the thing frozen in ice and were able to drill all around it with their Prawn and even build some decent living quarters there. So some cave in would have been a minor annoyance at best.

steel shoal
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||I think she wanted to seal the cave after curing the leviathan, but as Maida mentioned, the explosives were unstable. Parvan probably triggered them on accident which lead to their deaths, and the cave wasn't sealed properly. Maida is largely at fault for the faulty equipment||

coral siren
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||I thought sam triggered them accidentally?||

steel shoal
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||Maybe Parvan jumpscare made Sam trigger them, but I meant it like, if he wasn't there, he'd be fine.||

coral siren
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||does it stand to reason if he didn't walk in sam would maybe be fine...?||

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Sad to think about

chrome cedar
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So many plot holes in the story... Best not to think too hard on most of them. LOL

steel shoal
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Some things are plot holes, other things are just very hidden

muted cairn
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i don't know if its because I'm using a few mods, but just started BZ. I had my waterproof lockers disappear when I placed them too close to drop pod. Now after placing 3, I can't place anymore. It just disappears and I can't change my active tool afterwards.

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I am trying to disable all mods right now, see if it fixes it.

vagrant badge
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Im thinking abt buying BZ, and some people have told me, that it is really ”buggy“ at some points in the game and i was wondering if its still like that, or if it got patched?

muted cairn
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it seems waterpoor lockers instantly attach to the floor of the ocean. so when I tried putting them above my life pod, they like disappeared into the map

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ok turning off all mods, its working now.

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IGNORE ME, ill figure out which mod is doing it lol

muted cairn
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yes I have that one, lets see!

steel shoal
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That mod is trouble

steel shoal
vital valley
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Guys how do I get silver ore (where is it)

outer rampart
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||Land||

vital valley
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where in land

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Im not even out of the starting area

outer rampart
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Oh

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Uh outcrops

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Thought you were far enough 😅

vital valley
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what kind cause Im getting lead, titanium, and copper but nothing else

outer rampart
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||Argentite|| outcrop

vital valley
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guys why cant I swap batterys

fathom dune
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mmm it doesnt let me craft ||thermoblade|| at the fabricator, any tips?

vital valley
fathom dune
vital valley
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Modding is fun until the moonpool bends dirt and gets you stuck with "rebuilding terrain 105X"

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guys what does resetmotormode do

bold monolith
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It's self-explanatory.

vital valley
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Not really

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Im as smart as a rock

bold monolith
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The motor mode is what changes when you're swimming or walking.

vital valley
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Ah

eternal garnet
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the unstuck button will fix motor mode

bold monolith
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So for instance when you enter the ||sanctuary||, which is underwater, the game changes the motor mode to make Robin walks.

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As you would be swimming otherwise, as long as Y is inferior to zero.

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If you're underwater.

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So resetting it just changes back that state.

vital valley
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whats the command to turn on energy use

eternal garnet
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noenergy I think

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it's a toggle

vital valley
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Aight

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is there one to make it day tho

eternal garnet
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yes "day"

vital valley
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The most dull command ive seen

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not even "settime"

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what would be cool if they made a game where it went from north pole-south pole

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seeing all of 4546b would be amazing

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Flying vehicles too

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Honestly they could be doing that already

snow dust
snow dust
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like go to a kelp forest then just swim down and find a cave

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but try and find one of the bigger kelp forests (i recommend the one with the alterra identification marker thing you usually detect as soon as you land)

vital valley
snow dust
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hm

vital valley
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Like

snow dust
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||when you first load in and swim around sometimes you find this identification beacon its like a techsite in a giant kelp forest|| but otherwise just find a kelp forest

vital valley
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hold on can I cuss

snow dust
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nah

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this server doesnt like it

vital valley
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oh

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either way I got a dookie spawn

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I was literally unable to find any kelp areas

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the most I got was 2 large kelp areas with the pods

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like not a forest but a smaller area with 1 large kelp thingy

vital valley
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any tips tho @snow dust

snow dust
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alright so i would recommend going towards the ice "shelf" or icebergs whatever u wanna call them

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idk how to describe it

vital valley
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like the glowy thingys

snow dust
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wat glowy thingys

vital valley
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the little ball things on the kelp

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the big kelp

sterile violet
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Should I add ksi new song to my bz jukebox

vital valley
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like bigger kelp then the normal ones

sterile violet
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Il add a episode of talk tauh to the jukebox also

vital valley
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What even is talk tuah

sterile violet
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A podcast

vital valley
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omg wait guys is there a map in the game or did one of my mods finally start working

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wait can I send immages

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I hope so but

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is this vanilla or did one of the mods work

vital valley
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I found a secret item thingy

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I think its one of the small flying thingys for the watchumacallit

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I done it again guys

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I keep finding new items....

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guys I think unknown worlds might do un-nice things to me

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wait hold on I think I might have mead a amazing descovery

trail torrent
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what are the best places for titanium

bold monolith
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Drillable? If not, everywhere.

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Every outcrop gives you titanium in this game.

bold monolith
vital valley
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I think they we're gonna add it to the game at one point but decided not too

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and with the ||cyclops|| item they might have started to plan it but chose not to

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Does this show leaks? I dont think it shows anything people need

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hold on wait is ||vesper station|| still in the game or was it cut out after a update?

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or did it become the place we start in

vital valley
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gotta catch em all I guess?

jovial stone
trail torrent
sterile violet
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That's horrifying that there orca level

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Oh wait there orca size also

jovial stone
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I like brand new creatures but tbh i'd prefer that over the shrimp tbh

sterile violet
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The arctic reaper might have been in the squid sharks role

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Its at similar size

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And both creatures grab you with jaw appendages and drag you in

jovial stone
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Man, i wish the SquidShark was the big main threat leviathan lol

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I mean he kinda was in the boxart

sterile violet
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Squid shark the smallest levithan

jovial stone
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He baby t'ill he opens his mandible

sterile violet
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Squidsharks is smol

novel dagger
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still baby after he opens them

sterile violet
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Would the arctic reaper still be levithan class

vital valley
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guys my mods wont work should I just quit modding

jovial stone
sterile violet
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Even if it's way way way smaller

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How is sector zero alive without the peeper distribution network

vital valley
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anyone have tips to try and fix the highlighted (image has spoilers kinda-ish)

novel dagger
novel dagger
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the frost dragon

sterile violet
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Like a sea dragon

novel dagger
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literally replacing one word from sea dragon

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cool design though

sterile violet
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It seems way smaller than it's cousins the emperoress and sea dragon

vital valley
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guys whats a mod.json

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what do it do and can I make one so my mods work

novel dagger
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also the frost dragon seems like it would be a way bigger version of those freeze fish(forgot the name again)

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image also has a cyclops

sterile violet
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He actually doesn't seem that close related to sea dragons

jovial stone
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Below Zero was really missing a "Dragon" like leviathan tbh lol, i mean thats what the Shsdows sre for but uhhh

sterile violet
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Shadows are ghost like levithans

jovial stone
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So we really are missing a Dragon like leviathan for the game :'v

sterile violet
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Yeah

jovial stone
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Subnautica 2 please aaaaa

sterile violet
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Chilly = reaper, void chilly and shadow = ghost ice worm= ???

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I need something like the sea dragon and emperor

novel dagger
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subnautica 2 could be releasing in 2026

jovial stone
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Unpopular opinion but the void shrimps scare me way more thsn the ghosts lol

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Mainly cuz they dont glow in the dark lol

trail torrent
jovial stone
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Im kinda hoping we get a completely void exclusive leviathan for...well the void lmao
Instead of just reusing an existing leviathan

novel dagger
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im hoping that too

trail torrent
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they should make the void pitch black so you cant see the creatures until they get really close

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then it would have a jump scare sort of element

jovial stone
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How about no warning at all when you enter the void

trail torrent
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and maybe a biome that looks like the void to throw ppl off lol

jovial stone
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You're just left in the complete silent dark waters and then bam! Leviathan

novel dagger
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cant wait to see the new leviathans in sub 2

trail torrent
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they should have a biome thats like pitch black and goes very deep and then on the bottom is an underwater city

jovial stone
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I hope they just make a leviathan just as scary as the reaper

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Cuz man, The Reaper is PEAK leviathan design

trail torrent
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reaper chelicerate

jovial stone
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Reaper Leviathan 2 about to make Subnautica 2 sell 100 Peeperillion dollars

vital valley
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they shoulda added the workshop on steam

steel shoal
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Also, Crested Reapers were not leviathans, the same way Squidsharks aren't leviathans. That's why they're in the "Carnivores" section and not in "Leviathans"

coral siren
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But they didn't add the arctic hoverfish, though tbf i think the story behind that was the artist did it on the side without really telling anyone and it ended up never getting used

steel shoal
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We didn't get the Arctic Boomerang

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It's in the trailer

coral siren
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I never even noticed tbh

novel dagger
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rip arctic boomerang

coral siren
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Crashfish are also in the trailer

novel dagger
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theyre in the game though right?

coral siren
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I don't think so

novel dagger
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wait they are

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i remember when the grabby plant a squid shark and a crashfish ganged up on me

coral siren
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Yea they are apparently

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Idk why I have no memory of encountering them

coral siren
sterile violet
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Magmarang is epic

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This game has normal boomerang yeah

novel dagger
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i wanna rank every style of peepers and boomerangs now

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autocorrect made me say rang lmao

sterile violet
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For peepers

coral siren
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Only the oculus is a peeper

sterile violet
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Oculus, arctic peeper and peeper

novel dagger
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idk

sterile violet
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Magmarange and boomerang

steel shoal
coral siren
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Eye eye and holefish are their own species

novel dagger
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if i would put the oculus in there it would be higher than a nomral peeper

sterile violet
steel shoal
coral siren
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You sure abt that?

steel shoal
coral siren
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Those are the ones from the trailer ;-;

steel shoal
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Maybe it's a different trailer

novel dagger
coral siren
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The cinematic trailer doesn't have them at all

sterile violet
coral siren
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Unless I'm very blind but I didn't see anything that looked close to a boomerang

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I wanna trust you know what your talking about but like, you mightve made them up lol

sterile violet
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I think magmarangs and arcticrangs would have been ops fr

vital valley
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I went into modding not knowing anything and im trying to delete all of the mods knowing nothing

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guys I might have to live with mods

sterile violet
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There's a crimson ray and arctic ray

steel shoal
sterile violet
coral siren
# steel shoal hmmm

In fairness I have not checked the like 10 update vids, so maybe they are somewhere in there

vital valley
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Oh well

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If I break the game I break the game

steel shoal
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hmmm, after some deep research, it was likely a fan edit of a highly requested feature

vital valley
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guys should I delete the QMods file or is that importiant

steel shoal
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many people wanted arctic boomerangs

coral siren
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We cracked the case

steel shoal
coral siren
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Still a cool idea though

vital valley
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All the mods I have are from like 2 years ago

steel shoal
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You should delete it immediately

vital valley
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Why

sterile violet
steel shoal
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it causes several bugs

vital valley
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well it hasnt bugged MY game

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though I dont even play the game normally

steel shoal
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Probably has, but you haven't noticed. Or it's about to.

vital valley
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just the entire QMod file

coral siren
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I mean if it's non noticeable is it that bad?

vital valley
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Like all of it

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Dont even leave the folder empty

steel shoal
#

QMod causes tons of bugs, like things never showing up, or not being interactable

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Modders have moved to Nexus

coral siren
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Sounds like nitrox

vital valley
#

so where I get mods

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that go into the QMod folder

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My brain hurty

steel shoal
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QMod is for the legacy version of Subnautica 1

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Get rid of it, it stopped being used after the 2022 update

vital valley
#

Just say subnautica

coral siren
#

Well with subnautica 2 coming out the distinction is gonna be necessary

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Why not start now

vital valley
#

Its probally gonna have a name like BZ anyway

steel shoal
#

The name is going to be "Subnautica 2"

vital valley
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Ehhh

steel shoal
#

Obraxis said so

vital valley
#

You could also just say subnautica and subnautica 2

coral siren
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That's what all the dev released info names it

sterile violet
#

Isn't it subnautica 4

steel shoal
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Well, we're in Subnautica Below Zero chat, I didn't want it to seem like I'm talking about the legacy version of BZ

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Because there isn't one

sterile violet
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Subnautica is 1, below zero is 2, below zero 2 is 3 and the next game will be 4

steel shoal
#

I think

vital valley
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Wait what

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Theres gonna be a BZ2?

sterile violet
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I was joking

coral siren
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I mean there's beta varients, just not sure if any of them function in the legacy role

sterile violet
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Wait there's gonna be a bz2

trail torrent
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where can i find titanium deposits

steel shoal
#

I was joking too

vital valley
#

Wait nope

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Didnt the devs say they we're gonna leave the ending up to the players

steel shoal
coral siren
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Not too far off from a joke probably

steel shoal
trail torrent
coral siren
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Sn2 will probably get a spin off

trail torrent
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i hope subnautica 2 has architects

novel dagger
trail torrent
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subnautica 2: boiling point

steel shoal
coral siren
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It's a different planet entirely so I wouldn't count on an architect presence

steel shoal
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Nor returning creatures

sterile violet
trail torrent
steel shoal
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The distribution is pretty balanced

vital valley
#

The architecht are like super advanced tho right

steel shoal
#

If you want tons of titanium, try the Mercury II wrecks instead

trail torrent
coral siren
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They are advanced however, from what i know they wanna move onto new things in sn2, not just make what amounts to the same game

steel shoal
trail torrent
coral siren
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That too

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They found humans pretty easily though

vital valley
trail torrent
steel shoal
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Yes. It means they are by no means common and we might not see anything from them.

vital valley
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If I remember correctly robbin or whatever the girls name is that died in the beta had no clue about them

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Could be altera being altera but

steel shoal
coral siren
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Don't ask why it's on what amounts to a research outpost of a planet and not their home planet

steel shoal
trail torrent
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i hope when im older i get to experience subnautica in real life

steel shoal
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Also, they have a translating device that includes many many languages, including but not limited to Earth languages.

vital valley
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From what I understand going off what I know they're what humans would basically be in like 3046 that want to stop the spread of the death of countless planets

trail torrent
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having a whole planet to yourself to explore sounds amazing

vital valley
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Having a group of friends is amazing

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Being alone for more then a week SUCKS

coral siren
vital valley
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unless you can talk to friends and do nornal you activitys then your own planet would suck

steel shoal
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Bart gave up on trying to look for a cure after Paul and Maida were gone. Being alone does a lot to people.

coral siren
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He was also just tired of hurting the planet for it

vital valley
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chat I might just give up on BZ and beg my parents for the first game

steel shoal
#

huh?

vital valley
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If I mess it up im not gonna try and fix it

coral siren
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You haven't played the first game?

vital valley
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I already broke ready or not once and I dont wanna break another game

vital valley
trail torrent
vital valley
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I play the first game on PS4 and BZ on PC

trail torrent
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so hurting the planet for a cure would be the least of their problems

coral siren
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It barely killed any humans

vital valley
#

They need to add the seatruck to the first game

coral siren
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It's undetermined what exactly happened to the precursors

vital valley
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I dont remember

coral siren
#

It's not confirmed to be in the same universe

vital valley
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"Natural Selection 2 is a shooter / strategy hybrid game, featuring two unique playable sides and dynamic environments. We released NS2 on Steam in October 2012, debuting at #1 on the top seller list. Since then we have released two major content updates: Gorgeous (Feb 2013) and Reinforced (Sep 2013)."

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"Whether you play as one of the elite marine Frontiersmen or the vicious alien Kharaa, you must use unique strategies and your abilities to win. Marines form persistent squads to find and destroy alien hives. Aliens can choose a wall-running Skulk, pudgy Gorge, flying Lerk, murderous Fade or gigantic Onos that can smash through doors."

coral siren
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Yup but not confirmed to be in the same universe

vital valley
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It might be in a alternate or same

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Maybe where whats his face didnt discover the big queen thingy and nobody survived the aurora crash

trail torrent
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why would they call both diseases kharaa if its not in the same universe

coral siren
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Because it's a good name for a disease

trail torrent
#

ig

coral siren
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Names don't equal the same universe

vital valley
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gwen or whatever the white suit girl is

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and the bum peter parker

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basically that

novel dagger
coral siren
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Spider Gwen or spider girl

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The name isn't exactly nailed down

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Spider girl sounds a bit condescending when compared to spiderman though

novel dagger
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ghost spider is canon from what i heard

trail torrent
vital valley
trail torrent
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wait thats dr strange

novel dagger
coral siren
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This is alot of running around the point

vital valley
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Spider man into the spiderverse

coral siren
#

It's just a multiverse

trail torrent
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i dont think i seen that movie

steel shoal
#

Back to Below Zero, please

vital valley
#

"Natural Selection 2 and Subnautica both are confirmed to have taken place in the same universe, with Subnautica coming first. This means the Natural Selection 2 Poster is likely non-cannon."

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Wiki might be stupid but

coral siren
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Source?

trail torrent
coral siren
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No it's not

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Moving on

trail torrent
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jeezus okay

vital valley
#

🤷

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hol on wait

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wouldnt the prawn suit in BZ be the MK.III

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this is one of the posters in subnautica 1

coral siren
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Ughhh the wiki doesn't present a source at all

trail torrent
steel shoal
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If wiki doesn't have a source, then it's the same as not having anything

coral siren
#

That's not a source

vital valley
#

"Subnautica takes place in the late 22nd century"
"Subnautica: Below Zero takes place two years after the events of the original Subnautica game, which is set in the late 22nd century"

steel shoal
#

I still couldn't get myself to edit the swimming speed page, which is wrong

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but it's late and I'm tired so I'll do it tomorrow

vital valley
#

I might be stupid cause the MK.III could be the one in both games or just BZ

coral siren
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Go get some rest Andy;-;

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Aren't you still sick

steel shoal
#

yes

vital valley
#

And I have absolutely no knowlage in making blueprints in 2100 or whatever but 2 years could be enough time for them to make the new blueprint

steel shoal
#

Obraxis Prime is a planet btw

coral siren
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I'm banning you from the server

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Go get rest

vital valley
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or wait no

steel shoal
#

No, it's the planet where a massacre happened and Alterra prohibited weapons in frabicators

vital valley
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"Killing 20 children, between the ages 5 and 10, and six staff members. This really shook the team member, and decided to spread the word of removing weapons in Subnautica. The Obraxis Prime Massacre was made up to get rid of the weapons in Subnautica."

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Idk if thats true but

coral siren
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It is

steel shoal
#

Yes, Sandy Hook was one of the reasons why Subnautica has no weapons

coral siren
#

It's from the sandy hook school shooting

vital valley
#

Its crazy that if you we're born that year you're only 12 or 11

coral siren
#

I'm glad that was their response to the situation, I couldn't imagine subnautica with just a bunch of weapons

vital valley
#

"Obraxis Prime" is supposedly a freighter/trading ship. I believe it only has one reference in the game. My earlier comment references the PDA explaining why you can only craft a survival knife, which was apparently due to a massacre on this vessel."

steel shoal
#

Obraxis Prime is a planet

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Source: Obraxis Prime

vital valley
#

How exactly would that make sense

coral siren
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It was a newer outpost on the planet yeh?

steel shoal
coral siren
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I always thought of the massacre essentially stopping people from living there

vital valley
#

Who's obraxis prime tho

trail torrent
#

if we want to talk about subnautica should we move to another channel?

coral siren
vital valley
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Istg if thats his real name

coral siren
#

It is

vital valley
#

Knowing the name of elon musks kid I wont even try to not belive that

coral siren
steel shoal
coral siren
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Oh idk his actual name

steel shoal
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He's like

sterile violet
#

Is the timeline sb1-bz-ns2

steel shoal
coral siren
vital valley
coral siren
vital valley
#

If I remember correctly it used phasegates

steel shoal
#

Aurora was carrying a phasegate, to build it in an out of reach place

vital valley
#

So yeah

steel shoal
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It'd help expansion

coral siren
#

And the prawns were to help build that phase gate

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Hence the propulsion cannon arm

vital valley
#

How would the prawn even be used though

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It has such a limited jetpack suply

sterile violet
coral siren
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In space it has plenty of jetpack supply

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No gravity

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Or little gravity depending

steel shoal
sterile violet
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Imagine while they build in space there's bone shark attacking

vital valley
sterile violet
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And a boneshark eats someone in space and it falls down to 4546b

vital valley
#

The prawn suits arent even half the size

coral siren
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I don't see your point

steel shoal
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We have no idea if the Aurora fits a phasegate, but the Neptune does

sterile violet
vital valley
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Unless they're upgraded versions it dosent make sense

coral siren
vital valley
coral siren
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The one we use at the end is far too small

vital valley
#

The neptune I think is bigger then the aurora

steel shoal
coral siren
#

->

steel shoal
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sorry

coral siren
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Absolutely not

steel shoal
#

have you played the game

vital valley
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I dont go near the neptune so

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or

coral siren
#

Huh....?

vital valley
#

wait is that the mercury II

coral siren
#

No....

sterile violet
#

What are even "phasegates"

coral siren
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It's the ||escape rocket|| from the first game

vital valley
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My brain is the size of a pea

steel shoal
#

awawa

vital valley
#

THAT

sterile violet
#

Like the things precusors use

vital valley
#

Yeah I literally dont remember anything from the first game

steel shoal
#

we spend all the fuel to get to one, but the screen goes white before we reach it

vital valley
#

That was at the end of BZ

steel shoal
#

BZ is completely unrelated to this

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Alien technology is nothing like human tech

vital valley
#

Ehhhh

coral siren
sterile violet
vital valley
sterile violet
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The one that destroyed the precursor base

vital valley
#

???

coral siren
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Okay yea i dropped the ball on that

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Just watched the sn1 ending cutscene

sterile violet
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Sea dragon attacked diease research facility

vital valley
#

I thought ||Al-An|| caused the outbreak?

steel shoal
steel shoal
sterile violet
vital valley
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They took down a ship bigger then like 50 whitehouses

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I think a dragon wouldnt be a problem

steel shoal
#

they built facilities with a nearly indestructible material

vital valley
#

Yeah lol

steel shoal
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turns out a big fish can break through. completely destroyed its head in the process

vital valley
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Literally in the lava zone for the first game theres a dragon that spits out fire constantly and theres a precursor building completley unbroken

coral siren
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Also adrenaline spikes for having it's kid stolen

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Parents can do some crazy things when their kids are in danger

vital valley
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I dont think earth logic applies to giant dragon

sterile violet
coral siren
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I think earth logic applies fine to the giant dragon

sterile violet
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Gravity and shieet must make him be 20,000 tons

steel shoal
vital valley
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I feel like if altera never existed the lore of subnautica would go straight to xenocorp as the main company

coral siren
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I'm assuming the rock broke

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Metal is invulnerable, the rock its attached to is not

vital valley
#

Wdym the rock broke

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what rock

coral siren
#

The facility was suspended from the ceiling

vital valley
#

Theres a rock?

coral siren
#

Made of rock

vital valley
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Where is the base in

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Is it like lava zone or?

coral siren
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The lost river

vital valley
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So close

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Yeah I cant even get to the lost river so I rely on youtube

steel shoal
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Some parts detached, and many of the cables broke

coral siren
#

I wonder if it's decayed at all?

steel shoal
#

Verly lightly

steel shoal
coral siren
#

The warpers power source is insanely impressive

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Though you'd think there would be some warpers in sector zero

vital valley
#

the what

steel shoal
#

When you craft the Seamoth, you get the lifepod 19 signal, that is in a trench. If you follow the trench, you end up in the river. In case you miss that, it takes you to the Floating Island, that then takes you to Jellyshroom, that then takes you to the Deep Grand Reef. Right after that facility, there's another river entrance. If you miss that one too, being in DGR unlocks lifepod 2, that is directly next to a river entrance, this time impossible to miss.

coral siren
novel dagger
#

what channel is this again?

sterile violet
vital valley
steel shoal
eternal garnet
sterile violet
coral siren
#

Unless there's some secret base off in god knows where

vital valley
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The series should go out in a bang when they decide to stop making games based off of it

sterile violet
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The warpers are Probably just doing their programming still

steel shoal
coral siren
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Wheres the storage

sterile violet
#

Warpers would not fight back against enemies since no khraa

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So I'd assume levithans and crab squids would probably clear them out

vital valley
#

Do yall know if SN2 will have microtransactions?

coral siren
#

It shouldn't

vital valley
#

Isnt it gonna be Co-Op

novel dagger
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yeah

steel shoal
#

They said it won't have any microtransactions. You buy the game and you have access to all its content.

novel dagger
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UW isnt greedy like other game companys

coral siren
#

Krafton however is greedy

steel shoal
#

It's going to be single-player, but will have a co-op optional mode.

sterile violet
novel dagger
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i still hope it will be 4 player coop

coral siren
#

Andy, play sn2 coop with me?

novel dagger
steel shoal
coral siren
#

It's very tempting

steel shoal
#

or rather, help me build one, I can pay for it

coral siren
#

The deal with me building one is all likely chance is that it'll break on the way

sterile violet
coral siren
#

Ram ripping itself out, the gpu ricocheting around

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It's quite nasty

sterile violet
#

Ram ripping itself out??

coral siren
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Mhm

steel shoal
#

I meant the choosing pieces kind but sure, I love it when RAM has personality

sterile violet
#

That doesn't happen...

coral siren
#

It does ;-;

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Long distance shipping can cause alot of movement

sterile violet
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

sterile violet
coral siren
sterile violet
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Id be more worried about gpu though

coral siren
#

Hell i can teach you how to

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It's like legos

steel shoal
#

ANDYWAYS

sterile violet
#

7900 gre is very based gpu

steel shoal
#

Subnautica so cool and fresh and n ice

coral siren
#

Eh i like bz more

steel shoal
#

You missed the 3 puns

coral siren
#

Missed or ignored?

sterile violet
#

How cold is the bz void?

steel shoal
#

I was obviously talking about BZ

coral siren
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I'm a smart word i can't say here

sterile violet
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Inner crystal caverns building or fabricator caverns

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Low-key right above the crystal cache is a pretty fire building spot

coral siren
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Dw Andy I'm just jealous how much you can pun

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I always build in the twisty bridges

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I really like environment

vital valley
#

When they end the SN series they should add like a basically universe ending event

coral siren
#

Ryley paid off his debt and became all powerful

sterile violet
#

Wait what if ion cubes are made out of the red crystals?

coral siren
#

There's a ||fab cave||

eternal garnet
coral siren
#

Wooooow stealing my thunder meatie

sterile violet
eternal garnet
#

different spot

#

no. This is clearly a little cave for mining ion power

coral siren
#

||Mining and fabrication of ion cubes no?||

eternal garnet
#

I guess. You can mine a little there too

sterile violet
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What if in sb1 under the primary containment facility was a cavern of red crystals

coral siren
#

I don't think under the pcf is livable

sterile violet
coral siren
#

I don't think so

eternal garnet
#

right. And I'm saying there is a canon ion cube mining and fabrication in BZ

vital valley
#

what even caused it anyway

eternal garnet
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all those diamonds that Alterra claims they own

coral siren
#

I dont... I don't think that's a good metric for how much debt is...

vital valley
#

then

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its more then how much money elon musk has

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cause hes like super duper rich

sterile violet
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I gambled away all my debt

vital valley
#

uycolyottydyitdidyfiyigu

eternal garnet
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chat, gambling is how much of debt is created

coral siren
#

Nah gambling is how you fix debt

vital valley
#

chat I think the mods worked

#

sweet sweet terraformer?

coral siren
#

It won't work

vital valley
#

It does

coral siren
#

The code for it shouldn't even be available

vital valley
#

Or did

#

It worked without mods tho?

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fixes the model but breaks the code

coral siren
#

Bz was never built with the terraformer in mind

#

It's environment shouldn't be destructable

vital valley
#

It was earlier

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Borrowed code from SN1

coral siren
#

Sn1 shouldn't have that code anymore either

vital valley
#

It did when I last played so before large room

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Or at least when I used it

echo notch
#

where do the void chellys scars come from !?

vital valley
graceful tiger
eternal garnet
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True. It sounds bad, but many were scrapped for lack of time

coral siren
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And it's not like they added the ideas thoughtlessly

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It all meshes pretty well

steel shoal
#

@bold monolith Hi. The Fins description say "15%" but after some testing, it's a 33% boost. This is normal, right?

bold monolith
#

It sounds right.

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It isn't really calculated that way.

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Robin base speed is 5, pressing fully forward would add one, so the max speed is 6 without fins and having the fins adds 2 to this, it goes to eight.

coral siren
#

I was getting 4.55 for base speed

bold monolith
#

Yes.

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Because it doesn't stop there.

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The game reduces this max speed value depending on a bunch of things, like the drag value, etc.

coral siren
#

I'm hoping I didn't mislead Andy through some kinda ignorance...

bold monolith
#

Which is different depending on the medium ; ground, underwater, ...

coral siren
#

We went over all the speed stuff in bz when it comes to swimming

#

Drag value?

bold monolith
#

Yes.

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Friction.

coral siren
#

Are there actions that increase friction

#

Angling up or down for example?

eternal garnet
#

wearing fleece underwater

coral siren
#

Nuh uh

#

I tested the snow suit v.v

steel shoal
steel shoal
coral siren
#

It has no debuff

#

I thought i told you that

steel shoal
#

Ah, sorry

#

I didn't read the message above

coral siren
#

I mean if you want me to do more testing for other stuff I can

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For either game really

vital valley
#

hold on wait

#

If its the 4546 system then 4546b would make sense to be the second in the system right?

coral siren
#

The first is the star

vital valley
#

So second planet in the system

coral siren
#

No first found planet in the system

#

The star isn't a planet

#

It's a star

vital valley
#

So why call it 4546b and not 4546a

coral siren
#

Because the star is 4546A

vital valley
#

Oh well 🤷

coral siren
#

Yes

steel shoal
timid topaz
#

Subnautica 3 is actually on earth...

eternal garnet
#

Let's see where Subnautica 2 will be first

timid topaz
#

Gonna explore the remaining 80% of the ocean

timid topaz
snow dust
#

which game should i play first

#

subnautica or bz

steel shoal
keen dagger
hollow vector
#

very efficient biofuel

meager tide
hollow vector
meager tide
hollow vector
#

yes

meager tide
#

i love it when the tremors from a worm knock me off my vehicle that is floating above the ground

sterile violet
#

Apprenrently ice worn got a massive glow down and used to be fun

echo trail
#

They're still fun if you just use the prawn suit

hot oracle
#

I found a weird obelisk in the tundra void

#

I was flung out the map because I tried to spawn 100 shadow leviathans for the funni

coral siren
#

It could be a reference maybe

quiet sierra
#

does anyone know how to stop my cursor from going to other monitor

mental sphinx
#

hey

next current
# hot oracle

Just some weird terrain left behind by the developers.

coral siren
#

Nope it's a sci-fi reference

sterile violet
#

Do levithans spawn in the land void

steel shoal
#

No

sterile violet
#

Also what is sector zero

steel shoal
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An Arctic megabiome

sterile violet
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Like antarctic?, a continent with loads of ice on top of it

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Or the arctic a frozen ocean

steel shoal
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We were told it's one coast of that huge icy bit of land in the Subnautica end section

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could be a pole

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North or South, we have no way to tell

coral siren
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So that's to say there's a ginormous amount of land just out of reach

steel shoal
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We only see it from afar

sterile violet
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So I'd say more like antarctica

steel shoal
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Don't call it Antarctic

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That means it's on the South

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It's just Arctic

limpid drum
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doesnt ending scene of sn1 kinda show its location?

coral siren
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Yes

limpid drum
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where does it show it in reference to the planet then

coral siren
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To how much accuracy is up for debate since that planet is inaccurate to the craters layout

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Wait wha.. I thought it did

steel shoal
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We can see the continent but we orbit around the planet, there's no sense of direction

limpid drum
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isnt this whats believed to be sector zero (SN1 ending spoilers)

steel shoal
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We don't know if that's North or South

coral siren
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Fair

sterile violet
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Mercury 2 had the worst fate of the crashed ships

coral siren
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So it could be sector 0 and it could also be a totally different spot

steel shoal
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But obviously, the map isn't the whole continent

coral siren
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So we know it's north and we know it's really big

steel shoal
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how do we know it's North?

sterile violet
limpid drum
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i mean it looks like a big chunk of ice with no gaps or water inbetween

sterile violet
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Crator isn't even near the size of a continent

steel shoal
limpid drum
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wouldnt that make the world edge impossible?

coral siren
limpid drum
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.

steel shoal
limpid drum
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should have referred to it as a desert smh

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or a tundra

steel shoal
limpid drum
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technically antarctica is a desert

steel shoal
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but the snowy desert on the north and western edges of the map are literally called tundravoid

limpid drum
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oh

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wait whats the definition of tundra

coral siren
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A treeless plain

steel shoal
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Snowy wastes

limpid drum
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alright guys BZ takes place in north america, europe and asia

coral siren
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Snow isn't necessary to be a tundra

steel shoal
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In that huge continent, we are only in a coast. And it's probably too small to pinpoint the location.

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The opening sequence doesn't help much

coral siren
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Well

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If you know which direction the sun rises and sets

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You can start to get a guess of the side

steel shoal
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sure but there aren't exact answers

sterile violet
steel shoal
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we forget that the places we visit are really small from space

sterile violet
coral siren
limpid drum
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uh, not sure

steel shoal
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the Crater's islands are not even visible

sterile violet
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It's literally a frozen ocean

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Idk if a ocean can be a desert

coral siren
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I thought you could see the islands

steel shoal
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We see islands but they're too big

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Mountain Island is really small

coral siren
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Floating is also really small

steel shoal
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doesn't look like they're the same islands as we see from space

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4546B is comparable to Earth, of all places

coral siren
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A bit smaller but yea