#below-zero-chat
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oh
Further confirms that BZ was an innovative spin-off
I'm certain the damages done to Alterra in BZ are of some importance, but we are in a different planet now.
New info
Lmao
and i like how the whole architect race couldnt cure the kharaa bacteria but then some random xenoworks employee comes and does what dozens of alien advanced species couldnt do
Let me write that down somewhere
what was it 👀
Because the enzyme was already in the environment
Ah
it's just in case you lose the item
I guess they needed to do something
ngl i hope subnautica 2 is a giant game
*in terms of map
I would prefer a good game over a giant game. If I wanted to play subnautica instead of a new game I would just save my money
i mean like that it actually takes a while to complete
and is good of course
It'll be larger than SN, and deeper. That's all we know.
I wouldn't mind that although I'm going in as unspoiled as I can
New information!
Not new, look for messages from Obraxis
I know but it's fun making you panic to check whether you were allowed to say it /j
do mods get any extra info
😥
No
and are mods like officially part of unknown worlds "team" or are they just an extension with the purpose to enforce the rules on the discord
We're not employees, we're like volunteers picked by them to help them out
Don't make me feel bad about spending my time here 😭
but in all seriousness some servers actually pay people to moderate? ☠️
You all should play Below Zero
Math test tomorrow
andy tryna get the channel back on topic 😭
Is it working?
errrr
I'll bite. What is everyone's favorite fish in below zero
me too but i like the chelicerate as well
i like its design
Yea, Chelicerate is my favorite water leviathan
What if we remove levithans?
banned
Red Feather fish is nice but Pinnicarid >>>>
Oh those are cool
i sasw some vid which had a cool biome about like a void or black mist with "tentacles" of sorts which would try and pull you under
but its kinda generic and wouldnt fit right imo
That biome is from SN concept art
I don't think it was ever taken into consideration. Not very fun to play, or possible to develop.
Bold of you to assume I'm people
if u die do levithans keep their health?
Poor levithans
They just wanna live
||where are the seatruck fragments?||
in the sea
there somewhere
Deeper Twisty Bridges
Would you be okay with spoilers on where they are?
Yeah, I'm pretty far in the story need help with one other thing also
Storage module: ||Deep twisty bridges||
Fabricator Module: ||Deep twisty bridges or Purple vents||
I think they meant they already have those 2
Oh... I'm stupid
I meant I don't have them
I have mostly all other ones,
But if there's some I'm not sure about then idk,
Well there's one module that's more secretive
Keep scanning alien stuff to figure that out
Is sleeper module worth it?
I like it, it has a jukebox and the aforementioned bed
Oh and a picture frame
Little bit of comfort when far from home
I think both of these are only in ||deep twisty bridges||.
Wiki says fab is in ||purple vents||
there's only one there. Nearly misinformation
Not sure how seatruck modules work, but apparently fragments in sea monkey caves are more or less hand-placed, and always in same spots. Then again for example seaglide fragments are random like in the first game.
yes. I'd say most fragments are hand placed and not random
Interesting change in design choice
I made it through the main story!
Good stuff :3
Hey! Does the Headlamp goes on head insert like rebreather? So just useful outside? I’m asking before crafting it if it’s useless 🙂
it does yes
don't know, but the prawn has lamps
Ye that makes it even more confusing to me
Just asking, if it goes like the compass or on head, but it only on head, so useful outside water if u not using prawn on ground by night 🙂 I will put one inside my seatruck
Thank u for answers guys!
@hot spoke The ending is open-ended on purpose. It doesn't seem to have had a sequel in mind, it's more like "up to the player to interpret what's next"
I hope we get a BZ2, though
there could be a spin-off of the spin-off that takes it from the architect perspective, because it's a bit curious how such a advanced species with teleportation, telekenisis and hive-mind-like being just...dies off
This is speculation, but Subnautica seems to be about Alterra expansionism, and Below Zero about the aftermath only.
Which would fit right in with SN2 being in a different planet
Interesting for sure, but probably too complex
yeah you have Subnautica that leaves off with unfinished plot lines and BZ ties them up with a good-bye message for future games to be made
Would be cool if Subnautica became the Fallout of underwater survival games, with multiple titles and spin-offs. It's hard to guess the direction the devs are taking when we only have one main game and a spin-off. They're pulling in different directions.
i do see the game having a main narrative of the underwater-like gameplay and the alterra corp, and then spin-offs for the main games that tie up loose ends that they leave
how does the ecosystem of sector zero exist after the ||Kharra outbreak ||considering there is no ||Sea Emperor to produce enzyme 42||? The only reason the crater wasn't ravaged was because Peepers were taking it to the surface.
You missed details of the ending of SN. ||The cure spread|| all over the planet slowly. BZ is 2 years later
||The existence of Peepers with orifices and Alien facilities, and the fact that Emperors were common before the outbreak, may suggest that this sector had some sort enzyme access for some time. Leviathans also have a kind of enzyme that provides some (not full) resistance to the infection, and BZ has a ton of leviathans 🐳||
Peepers with orifices?
||yes but there was over a 1000 year period between the initial outbreak and the cure, the only reason the crater wasn't fully decimated was because of the peepers and sea emperor||
The holes they have on the sides, Peepers evolved them for the sole purpose of spreading the enzyme.

They're connected to the digestive system, and they throw everything inside the stomach/intestines out, to make space for the enzyme. They also have a nasal cavity, for the same purpose.
The PDA says they're seemingly useless, but then you find out their usage after another scan.
Obviously the disease wasn't deadly enough to impact the ecosystems of the planet prior to there being a cure. The abundance of life seems to indicate that for the most part creatures survived just fine. We only have a limited dataset of the effects on humans (some died, some didn't), and we don't know the exact effect on the Architect race either. Saying something is deadly doesn't mean instant.
The abundance we see represents 1% of the ecosystem before the infection.
Lifeforms died within days/weeks, except for a select few. These were researched by the aliens.
I choose not to trust data from the architects. They obviously aren't infoolable.
Also, there is ||Marguerit||. So obviously not days/weeks for all.
The Degasi survived a couple years. ||Maida was inside a Reaper, the PDA says leviathan stomachs have a similar enzyme that provides some resistance to the infection. It's not strong enough, so all leviathans are sick||
Important to note that certain parts of her story don't make sense at all, like Maida's bases. I don't think it's worth trying to explain that.
ive played quite a bit of subnautica 2 now, and i feel like the map is way smaller, the game is playing way faster then subnautica 1. plus that the small map is being hidden by making us slower even tho its not fooling people.
The swimming speeds in bz and sn1 are the same
feels slower
Feels isn't the same as is
The base swim speed is 5.75m/s under water and 6.14m/s on the surface.
i think
In both games
then the map is just smaller
and at the start we get a quest we cant even complete till the end?
and getting diamonds is also very hard when you can go 300m max with the truck
You can complete the quest as soon as you get a ||spy pengling||
And diamonds can be found in the same spot you got the blueprints for the seatruck
thats not early game
It's not the end either
btw could you tell me if i almost finished the game cuz then i need to go slower
just got to the point i found the levi, and that i need to go close to that starting quest thing about the alien stuff
Which levi?
virus
That's not even part of the main quest
its in the trailer
well rn i am at the part that i need to get the robot out of my head
ah nice
please understand this is not SN2. SN2 is actually in early development now
Placebo effect from watching too many reviews, some of the information they present is false.
Is it?
The player moving slower is
Context please
My swimming speed without fins.
I don't know the values of the first game
Robin swims slower, it's intended.
Gl
I've been fooled for so long 
She even has a penalty when she's exploring the wrecks.
To ease the navigation I assume.
I wish PS4 had the F key that shows that information, I'd love to get a new table with the correct numbers
Check if any other value is wrong
Andy spreading misinformation smh 😔
Thom, why must you always mock me for my mistakes 😭
I would never ❤️
Not like I remember it my self, I thought it was just the vehicles and seaglide that were slower 😂
Thank you so much, Ignis!
I won't do everything, but you get the idea. Everything is slower.
I can see that now. Didn't notice it when playing.
Why must the wiki lead me in the wrong direction at every turn
Does BZ slow you down because the map is smaller?😅
I would imagine so yes
It's a development trick that's been in use since well... the start of 3d games
You do autorun in air environments
So at least you appear to move faster, on land for example
Although that’s not much of a fair comparison since Subnautica doesn’t have much land to begin with😂
I think the autorun feature can be changed in settings
You can toggle to run, walk or whatever
Same in Subnautica iirc
I think these games work best with minimal land
The games just dont really work all too well with land
I enjoy the mix, while I agree it’d be weird without a significant underwater experience, I do like having some land experience as well
It feels kinda clunky
Maybe sn2 can make it feel less so
But as of now it kinda feels like a half baked feature
It's serviceable for sure, just not polished
Well when it’s a new feature, and this (BZ) went through some changes like to the story that weren’t exactly smooth for the team, no doubt that had ripple effects with some stuff maybe not getting all the focus they would’ve liked to have given. But I still think the land scenery is very beautiful and wish we could grow a lot of the various land plants in our bases for decor. I don’t know many issues for land segments other than maybe some parkour is a bit weird in crevices and some have issues with prawn etc falling through terrain, but those should be addressable I think. It was ambitious adding the land sections and I thought they were very nice aesthetically and hope to have more interesting areas to explore, both above and below the water❤️
The looks are perfect, i have no notes
It's the feel of traversing that I have a problem with
The snowfox could’ve had some more tweaking😅
Vehicles are always complex beasts I’m gonna guess
I meant on foot lmao
What issues did you have with foot traversal?
I personally never really used the snowfox in favor of the prawn
It just felt off and clunky, it's not something I can fully describe but when I play something with better on land feel, I can very much tell
Did alterra get a hold of khraa
Sam suicide bombed the levithan but it didn't get that damaged right
Yeah it feels unnatural and weird tbh to be on land, it feels confined in a way idk how to phrase it
They had access to the frozen beast, first thing I’d have done is gotten a sample and gotten it to a real lab with better facilities.
And than khraa gets mutated in natural selection 2
I feel like Sams kamikaze move could have released kharraa back into the environment
Probably did
Well the omega lab certainly scorched everything, flash burn
I think Sam was going for a “seal it all up so nothing but extremely heavy equipment” could ever reach again (which for a remote outpost, would be keeping it out of reach for as long as was feasible as she could muster without involving anyone else, which she really couldn’t trust anyone else, so she was in a tight spot
I don’t know that she really meant it to be a seal her own fate thing, but idk for sure
Could have been, or left to interpretation
That never made any sense to me, since they found the thing frozen in ice and were able to drill all around it with their Prawn and even build some decent living quarters there. So some cave in would have been a minor annoyance at best.
||I think she wanted to seal the cave after curing the leviathan, but as Maida mentioned, the explosives were unstable. Parvan probably triggered them on accident which lead to their deaths, and the cave wasn't sealed properly. Maida is largely at fault for the faulty equipment||
||I thought sam triggered them accidentally?||
||Maybe Parvan jumpscare made Sam trigger them, but I meant it like, if he wasn't there, he'd be fine.||
||does it stand to reason if he didn't walk in sam would maybe be fine...?||
Sad to think about
So many plot holes in the story... Best not to think too hard on most of them. LOL
Some things are plot holes, other things are just very hidden
i don't know if its because I'm using a few mods, but just started BZ. I had my waterproof lockers disappear when I placed them too close to drop pod. Now after placing 3, I can't place anymore. It just disappears and I can't change my active tool afterwards.
I am trying to disable all mods right now, see if it fixes it.
Im thinking abt buying BZ, and some people have told me, that it is really ”buggy“ at some points in the game and i was wondering if its still like that, or if it got patched?
it seems waterpoor lockers instantly attach to the floor of the ocean. so when I tried putting them above my life pod, they like disappeared into the map
ok turning off all mods, its working now.
IGNORE ME, ill figure out which mod is doing it lol
suspect: more quickslots
yes I have that one, lets see!
That mod is trouble
It's not very buggy. There's a couple bugs, usually clipping, but those are easily avoided. It is significantly less buggy than Subnautica.
Guys how do I get silver ore (where is it)
||Land||
what kind cause Im getting lead, titanium, and copper but nothing else
||Argentite|| outcrop
guys why cant I swap batterys
mmm it doesnt let me craft ||thermoblade|| at the fabricator, any tips?
||theres a upgrade thingy that you need||
||where||
||I dunno I never play survival for long enough||
Modding is fun until the moonpool bends dirt and gets you stuck with "rebuilding terrain 105X"
guys what does resetmotormode do
It's self-explanatory.
The motor mode is what changes when you're swimming or walking.
Ah
the unstuck button will fix motor mode
So for instance when you enter the ||sanctuary||, which is underwater, the game changes the motor mode to make Robin walks.
As you would be swimming otherwise, as long as Y is inferior to zero.
If you're underwater.
So resetting it just changes back that state.
whats the command to turn on energy use
yes "day"
The most dull command ive seen
not even "settime"
what would be cool if they made a game where it went from north pole-south pole
seeing all of 4546b would be amazing
Flying vehicles too
Honestly they could be doing that already
modification table thing
in the arctic kelp forest caves
like go to a kelp forest then just swim down and find a cave
but try and find one of the bigger kelp forests (i recommend the one with the alterra identification marker thing you usually detect as soon as you land)
I dont detect any kelp forests
hm
Like
||when you first load in and swim around sometimes you find this identification beacon its like a techsite in a giant kelp forest|| but otherwise just find a kelp forest
hold on can I cuss
oh
either way I got a dookie spawn
I was literally unable to find any kelp areas
the most I got was 2 large kelp areas with the pods
like not a forest but a smaller area with 1 large kelp thingy
any tips tho @snow dust
uh gimme a sec
alright so i would recommend going towards the ice "shelf" or icebergs whatever u wanna call them
idk how to describe it
pods?
like the glowy thingys
wat glowy thingys
Should I add ksi new song to my bz jukebox
like bigger kelp then the normal ones
Il add a episode of talk tauh to the jukebox also
What even is talk tuah
A podcast
omg wait guys is there a map in the game or did one of my mods finally start working
wait can I send immages
I hope so but
is this vanilla or did one of the mods work
mod
I found a secret item thingy
I think its one of the small flying thingys for the watchumacallit
I done it again guys
I keep finding new items....
guys I think unknown worlds might do un-nice things to me
wait hold on I think I might have mead a amazing descovery
pfft-
what are the best places for titanium
Far be it from me to dampen your enthusiasm, but there is nothing you will discover that is still unknown in the games.
I think they we're gonna add it to the game at one point but decided not too
and with the ||cyclops|| item they might have started to plan it but chose not to
Does this show leaks? I dont think it shows anything people need
hold on wait is ||vesper station|| still in the game or was it cut out after a update?
or did it become the place we start in
gotta catch em all I guess?
https://fxtwitter.com/alexriesart/status/1762317960981712935?t=V9emtLsplKnVWrhV6AFS_A&s=19 I suppose this evolved into the Chelicerate in the actual game, especially with the mandibles
drillable
There was gonna be arctic reapers??
That's horrifying that there orca level
Oh wait there orca size also
I like brand new creatures but tbh i'd prefer that over the shrimp tbh
The arctic reaper might have been in the squid sharks role
Its at similar size
And both creatures grab you with jaw appendages and drag you in
Man, i wish the SquidShark was the big main threat leviathan lol
I mean he kinda was in the boxart
Squid shark the smallest levithan
why does it look so cute
He baby t'ill he opens his mandible
Squidsharks is smol
still baby after he opens them
Would the arctic reaper still be levithan class
guys my mods wont work should I just quit modding
Still a reaper so yea, leviathan still lol
Even if it's way way way smaller
How is sector zero alive without the peeper distribution network
anyone have tips to try and fix the highlighted (image has spoilers kinda-ish)
thats a good question, wish i could try to answer it
the frost dragon
Like a sea dragon
It seems way smaller than it's cousins the emperoress and sea dragon
also the frost dragon seems like it would be a way bigger version of those freeze fish(forgot the name again)
image also has a cyclops
He actually doesn't seem that close related to sea dragons
Below Zero was really missing a "Dragon" like leviathan tbh lol, i mean thats what the Shsdows sre for but uhhh
Shadows are ghost like levithans
So we really are missing a Dragon like leviathan for the game :'v
Yeah
Subnautica 2 please aaaaa
Chilly = reaper, void chilly and shadow = ghost ice worm= ???
I need something like the sea dragon and emperor
subnautica 2 could be releasing in 2026
Unpopular opinion but the void shrimps scare me way more thsn the ghosts lol
Mainly cuz they dont glow in the dark lol
i’m gonna have passed away by the time they release subnautica 2
Im kinda hoping we get a completely void exclusive leviathan for...well the void lmao
Instead of just reusing an existing leviathan
im hoping that too
they should make the void pitch black so you cant see the creatures until they get really close
then it would have a jump scare sort of element
How about no warning at all when you enter the void
and maybe a biome that looks like the void to throw ppl off lol
You're just left in the complete silent dark waters and then bam! Leviathan
i got scared of a roblox avatar ;-; that would literally kill me
cant wait to see the new leviathans in sub 2
they should have a biome thats like pitch black and goes very deep and then on the bottom is an underwater city
I hope they just make a leviathan just as scary as the reaper
Cuz man, The Reaper is PEAK leviathan design
reaper chelicerate
Reaper Leviathan 2 about to make Subnautica 2 sell 100 Peeperillion dollars
they shoulda added the workshop on steam
Yes. They replaced most arctic variants of fish with new species, to stray further away from Subnautica. It's clear BZ is trying to be its own thing.
Also, Crested Reapers were not leviathans, the same way Squidsharks aren't leviathans. That's why they're in the "Carnivores" section and not in "Leviathans"
But they didn't add the arctic hoverfish, though tbf i think the story behind that was the artist did it on the side without really telling anyone and it ended up never getting used
I never even noticed tbh
rip arctic boomerang
Crashfish are also in the trailer
theyre in the game though right?
I don't think so
wait they are
i remember when the grabby plant a squid shark and a crashfish ganged up on me
It kinda just looks the same as the regular boomerang
i wanna rank every style of peepers and boomerangs now
autocorrect made me say rang lmao
Do you count oculus, eye eye, and the holefish
For peepers
Only the oculus is a peeper
Oculus, arctic peeper and peeper
idk
Magmarange and boomerang
It's black and white instead of blue and yellow
Eye eye and holefish are their own species
if i would put the oculus in there it would be higher than a nomral peeper
And the Reginald is related
The other 2 are close relatives
Those are not it
Those are the ones from the trailer ;-;
Maybe it's a different trailer
scary
The cinematic trailer doesn't have them at all
Oculus and magmarange are just peeper and boomerang with better drip
Unless I'm very blind but I didn't see anything that looked close to a boomerang
I wanna trust you know what your talking about but like, you mightve made them up lol
I think magmarangs and arcticrangs would have been ops fr
I went into modding not knowing anything and im trying to delete all of the mods knowing nothing
guys I might have to live with mods
There's a crimson ray and arctic ray
Ask the modding servers
hmmm
Are they that closely related though
In fairness I have not checked the like 10 update vids, so maybe they are somewhere in there
hmmm, after some deep research, it was likely a fan edit of a highly requested feature
guys should I delete the QMods file or is that importiant
many people wanted arctic boomerangs
We cracked the case
is that the qmod launcher?
Still a cool idea though
i dont know 😭
All the mods I have are from like 2 years ago
You should delete it immediately
Why

it causes several bugs
Probably has, but you haven't noticed. Or it's about to.
just the entire QMod file
I mean if it's non noticeable is it that bad?
QMod causes tons of bugs, like things never showing up, or not being interactable
Modders have moved to Nexus
Sounds like nitrox
QMod is for the legacy version of Subnautica 1
Get rid of it, it stopped being used after the 2022 update
Just say subnautica
Well with subnautica 2 coming out the distinction is gonna be necessary
Why not start now
Its probally gonna have a name like BZ anyway
The name is going to be "Subnautica 2"
Ehhh
Obraxis said so
You could also just say subnautica and subnautica 2
That's what all the dev released info names it
Isn't it subnautica 4
Well, we're in Subnautica Below Zero chat, I didn't want it to seem like I'm talking about the legacy version of BZ
Because there isn't one
Subnautica is 1, below zero is 2, below zero 2 is 3 and the next game will be 4
I think
But BZ2 isn't out yet
I was joking
I mean there's beta varients, just not sure if any of them function in the legacy role
Wait there's gonna be a bz2
where can i find titanium deposits
I was joking too
They're very common
Not too far off from a joke probably
Yes, but never say never
what biome
Sn2 will probably get a spin off
i hope subnautica 2 has architects
Subnautica 2: Above one
subnautica 2: boiling point
It's a different planet entirely so I wouldn't count on an architect presence
Nor returning creatures
The entire ocean is boiling
which one has the most
The distribution is pretty balanced
The architecht are like super advanced tho right
If you want tons of titanium, try the Mercury II wrecks instead
i was thinking u were put on like a volcanic island with magma and lava and stuff surrounded by ocean
They are advanced however, from what i know they wanna move onto new things in sn2, not just make what amounts to the same game
Hmm
Yes, but 4546B was the first place where humans found their presence. And humans have been expanding through space for a while now.
i need a lot of titanium because i'm building a few bases around the map
We'rent they unknown for a long time
no the humans found them
Yes. It means they are by no means common and we might not see anything from them.
If I remember correctly robbin or whatever the girls name is that died in the beta had no clue about them
Could be altera being altera but
No, they found the humans. They have a Mongol war blade in the PCF.
There's artifacts from primitive humans in the first game
Don't ask why it's on what amounts to a research outpost of a planet and not their home planet
I like to think they're personal trinkets from the scientists
i hope when im older i get to experience subnautica in real life
Also, they have a translating device that includes many many languages, including but not limited to Earth languages.
From what I understand going off what I know they're what humans would basically be in like 3046 that want to stop the spread of the death of countless planets
having a whole planet to yourself to explore sounds amazing
And horrible
Having a group of friends is amazing
Being alone for more then a week SUCKS
Good point, they are probably really fascinated with other species with intelligence considering ||they are made up of several species||
unless you can talk to friends and do nornal you activitys then your own planet would suck
Bart gave up on trying to look for a cure after Paul and Maida were gone. Being alone does a lot to people.
He was also just tired of hurting the planet for it
chat I might just give up on BZ and beg my parents for the first game
huh?
If I mess it up im not gonna try and fix it
You haven't played the first game?
I already broke ready or not once and I dont wanna break another game
I have but dont have it on PC
didnt the disease kill billions of people
I play the first game on PS4 and BZ on PC
so hurting the planet for a cure would be the least of their problems
It barely killed any humans
They need to add the seatruck to the first game
It's undetermined what exactly happened to the precursors
Im pretty sure theres another old game made by unkown that takes place in the same universe but further in the future where it mutated into full on creatures
I dont remember
It's not confirmed to be in the same universe
"Natural Selection 2 is a shooter / strategy hybrid game, featuring two unique playable sides and dynamic environments. We released NS2 on Steam in October 2012, debuting at #1 on the top seller list. Since then we have released two major content updates: Gorgeous (Feb 2013) and Reinforced (Sep 2013)."
"Whether you play as one of the elite marine Frontiersmen or the vicious alien Kharaa, you must use unique strategies and your abilities to win. Marines form persistent squads to find and destroy alien hives. Aliens can choose a wall-running Skulk, pudgy Gorge, flying Lerk, murderous Fade or gigantic Onos that can smash through doors."
Yup but not confirmed to be in the same universe
It might be in a alternate or same
Maybe where whats his face didnt discover the big queen thingy and nobody survived the aurora crash
why would they call both diseases kharaa if its not in the same universe
Because it's a good name for a disease
ig
Names don't equal the same universe
Yk how spider man has like
gwen or whatever the white suit girl is
and the bum peter parker
basically that
ghost spider?
Spider Gwen or spider girl
The name isn't exactly nailed down
Spider girl sounds a bit condescending when compared to spiderman though
ghost spider is canon from what i heard
oh like the spider man with tobey andrew and tom
Ehhh....
wait thats dr strange
they couldnt think of another one
This is alot of running around the point
Spider man into the spiderverse
It's just a multiverse
i dont think i seen that movie
Back to Below Zero, please
"Natural Selection 2 and Subnautica both are confirmed to have taken place in the same universe, with Subnautica coming first. This means the Natural Selection 2 Poster is likely non-cannon."
Wiki might be stupid but
Source?
technichally this is on topic as we are comparing subnautica kharaa to a spider man movie
jeezus okay
the subnautica wiki
🤷
hol on wait
wouldnt the prawn suit in BZ be the MK.III
this is one of the posters in subnautica 1
Ughhh the wiki doesn't present a source at all
If wiki doesn't have a source, then it's the same as not having anything
That's not a source
"Subnautica takes place in the late 22nd century"
"Subnautica: Below Zero takes place two years after the events of the original Subnautica game, which is set in the late 22nd century"
I still couldn't get myself to edit the swimming speed page, which is wrong
but it's late and I'm tired so I'll do it tomorrow
I might be stupid cause the MK.III could be the one in both games or just BZ
yes
And I have absolutely no knowlage in making blueprints in 2100 or whatever but 2 years could be enough time for them to make the new blueprint
Obraxis Prime is a planet btw
Isnt that the planet where whats his face crashed and hijacked a ship
or wait no
No, it's the planet where a massacre happened and Alterra prohibited weapons in frabicators
"Killing 20 children, between the ages 5 and 10, and six staff members. This really shook the team member, and decided to spread the word of removing weapons in Subnautica. The Obraxis Prime Massacre was made up to get rid of the weapons in Subnautica."
Idk if thats true but
It is
Yes, Sandy Hook was one of the reasons why Subnautica has no weapons
It's from the sandy hook school shooting
Its crazy that if you we're born that year you're only 12 or 11
I'm glad that was their response to the situation, I couldn't imagine subnautica with just a bunch of weapons
"Obraxis Prime" is supposedly a freighter/trading ship. I believe it only has one reference in the game. My earlier comment references the PDA explaining why you can only craft a survival knife, which was apparently due to a massacre on this vessel."
How exactly would that make sense
It was a newer outpost on the planet yeh?
I don't know, he said it was a planet that shared his name
I always thought of the massacre essentially stopping people from living there
Who's obraxis prime tho
if we want to talk about subnautica should we move to another channel?
Previous community manager
Istg if thats his real name
It is
Knowing the name of elon musks kid I wont even try to not belive that
It's interesting because the PDA says Prawn Suit Mk III is the latest iteration, only being rolled out by Alterra for their own high-value, phasegate-related operations. This is an inconsistency, because there are Prawn Suits in BZ (unrelated to phasegates) and the Mercury II, which has crashed decades if not centuries ago, also has them.
Oh idk his actual name
He's like
Is the timeline sb1-bz-ns2
Those should definitely be the mk2s
So in SB1 it makes sense cause the aurora was used for mining? Transport? Dosent really matter but it used phasegates to get around faster
huh
wuh
Wow.
Doxing devs now.
The big ship that went boom
If I remember correctly it used phasegates
Aurora was carrying a phasegate, to build it in an out of reach place
So yeah
It'd help expansion
Astro construction
Prawn suits can destroy asteroids, perform quick exterior repairs, and serves as a forklift. It can also drill and harvest materials.
Imagine while they build in space there's bone shark attacking
Well the phasegates are (assuming) almost the size of the aurora or bigger
And a boneshark eats someone in space and it falls down to 4546b
The prawn suits arent even half the size
I don't see your point
We have no idea if the Aurora fits a phasegate, but the Neptune does
(Sharknado reference btw )
Unless they're upgraded versions it dosent make sense
I think the aurora is carrying one sized for itself
Its big while also being in half if im correct so
The one we use at the end is far too small
The neptune I think is bigger then the aurora
what
->
sorry
Absolutely not
have you played the game
Huh....?
wait is that the mercury II
No....
What are even "phasegates"
It's the ||escape rocket|| from the first game
My brain is the size of a pea
OH
awawa
THAT
Like the things precusors use
Yeah I literally dont remember anything from the first game
We don't use any phasegates tho
we spend all the fuel to get to one, but the screen goes white before we reach it
That was at the end of BZ
Ehhhh
Am I mixing it up with the bz ||phase gate at the end||?
But they couldn't stop a giant dragon
What one
The one that destroyed the precursor base
???
Sea dragon attacked diease research facility
I thought ||Al-An|| caused the outbreak?
they didn't think it'd be that big of a threat
yes
Mmm
They took down a ship bigger then like 50 whitehouses
I think a dragon wouldnt be a problem
they built facilities with a nearly indestructible material
Yeah lol
turns out a big fish can break through. completely destroyed its head in the process
Literally in the lava zone for the first game theres a dragon that spits out fire constantly and theres a precursor building completley unbroken
Also adrenaline spikes for having it's kid stolen
Parents can do some crazy things when their kids are in danger
I dont think earth logic applies to giant dragon
It can handle 300 tons of force
I think earth logic applies fine to the giant dragon
Gravity and shieet must make him be 20,000 tons
||AL-AN decided to take a dragon egg for research, despite how dangerous the creatures are. This resulted in the creature ramming against the Research Facility, allowing the disease to escape. They have no reason to kill themselves ramming against the Containment Facility. In fact, they can't even get close, because of the Sonic Deterrents around it||
I feel like if altera never existed the lore of subnautica would go straight to xenocorp as the main company
The facility was suspended from the ceiling
Theres a rock?
Made of rock
The lost river
Some parts detached, and many of the cables broke
I wonder if it's decayed at all?
Verly lightly
The game tries its best to lead you there.
The warpers power source is insanely impressive
Though you'd think there would be some warpers in sector zero
the what
When you craft the Seamoth, you get the lifepod 19 signal, that is in a trench. If you follow the trench, you end up in the river. In case you miss that, it takes you to the Floating Island, that then takes you to Jellyshroom, that then takes you to the Deep Grand Reef. Right after that facility, there's another river entrance. If you miss that one too, being in DGR unlocks lifepod 2, that is directly next to a river entrance, this time impossible to miss.
Did you play through sn1
what channel is this again?
It's the wires that hold the thing up that snapped I think
I only ever played creative so
Very likely. I like to think they got decommissioned after the events of SN
Bit sad. In BZ, story is completely disabled in creative
I think there still wandering
The place where they'd be decommissioned is broken
Unless there's some secret base off in god knows where
The series should go out in a bang when they decide to stop making games based off of it
The warpers are Probably just doing their programming still
DRF was the factory, not the storage
Wheres the storage
Warpers would not fight back against enemies since no khraa
So I'd assume levithans and crab squids would probably clear them out
Do yall know if SN2 will have microtransactions?
It shouldn't
Isnt it gonna be Co-Op
yeah
They said it won't have any microtransactions. You buy the game and you have access to all its content.
UW isnt greedy like other game companys
Krafton however is greedy
It's going to be single-player, but will have a co-op optional mode.
If it's not dlc I will eated all peeper
i still hope it will be 4 player coop
Andy, play sn2 coop with me?
or just however much you want
buy me a PC and it's a deal
It's very tempting
or rather, help me build one, I can pay for it
The deal with me building one is all likely chance is that it'll break on the way
Imagine 100 player coop
Ram ripping itself out??
Mhm
I meant the choosing pieces kind but sure, I love it when RAM has personality
That doesn't happen...
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
Yeah i saw some horror stories about pc that was shipped
Ye I can help you pick stuff out and help with building process
Id be more worried about gpu though
ANDYWAYS
7900 gre is very based gpu
Subnautica so cool and fresh and n ice
Eh i like bz more
You missed the 3 puns
Missed or ignored?
How cold is the bz void?
I was obviously talking about BZ
I'm a smart word i can't say here
Inner crystal caverns building or fabricator caverns
Low-key right above the crystal cache is a pretty fire building spot
Dw Andy I'm just jealous how much you can pun
I always build in the twisty bridges
I really like environment
When they end the SN series they should add like a basically universe ending event
Ryley paid off his debt and became all powerful
Opposite of crystal caverns
Wait what if ion cubes are made out of the red crystals?
There's a ||fab cave||
in the story, you find a mining spot for ion cubes
Wooooow stealing my thunder meatie
Yeah the one with giant red crystals
||Mining and fabrication of ion cubes no?||
I guess. You can mine a little there too
What if in sb1 under the primary containment facility was a cavern of red crystals
I don't think under the pcf is livable
Yeah but there's red crystals under and the architect mines it and turns it into cubes
I don't think so
right. And I'm saying there is a canon ion cube mining and fabrication in BZ
the debt is more then my grandmas age
what even caused it anyway
all those diamonds that Alterra claims they own
I dont... I don't think that's a good metric for how much debt is...
I gambled away all my debt
uycolyottydyitdidyfiyigu
chat, gambling is how much of debt is created
Nah gambling is how you fix debt
It won't work
It does
The code for it shouldn't even be available
Bz was never built with the terraformer in mind
It's environment shouldn't be destructable
Sn1 shouldn't have that code anymore either
where do the void chellys scars come from !?
A lot of scrapped content from subnautica is in below zero
True. It sounds bad, but many were scrapped for lack of time
@bold monolith Hi. The Fins description say "15%" but after some testing, it's a 33% boost. This is normal, right?
It sounds right.
It isn't really calculated that way.
Robin base speed is 5, pressing fully forward would add one, so the max speed is 6 without fins and having the fins adds 2 to this, it goes to eight.
I was getting 4.55 for base speed
Yes.
Because it doesn't stop there.
The game reduces this max speed value depending on a bunch of things, like the drag value, etc.
I'm hoping I didn't mislead Andy through some kinda ignorance...
Which is different depending on the medium ; ground, underwater, ...
wearing fleece underwater
But I suppose the end result is what's relevant to players, and that is a 33% boost. Is it fine to keep that in the wiki?
Results?
I mean if you want me to do more testing for other stuff I can
For either game really
Yes that sounds right.
hold on wait
If its the 4546 system then 4546b would make sense to be the second in the system right?
The first is the star
So second planet in the system
So why call it 4546b and not 4546a
Because the star is 4546A
Oh well 🤷
Yes
4546 or 4546A is the star of this solar system. 4546B is the first planet to be discovered, then 4546C, then 4546D, and so on. There are 10 planets in this solar system.
Subnautica 3 is actually on earth...
Let's see where Subnautica 2 will be first
Gonna explore the remaining 80% of the ocean
Oh, mb that's what I meant lol
BZ contains some references and spoilers for SN
Subnautica!
very efficient biofuel
blue sour patch kids biofuel
adults are more efficient, so I capture them as children, wait for them to grow and then use them
blue sour patch adults biofuel
yes
i love it when the tremors from a worm knock me off my vehicle that is floating above the ground
Physics has left the chat
Apprenrently ice worn got a massive glow down and used to be fun
They're still fun if you just use the prawn suit
I found a weird obelisk in the tundra void
I was flung out the map because I tried to spawn 100 shadow leviathans for the funni
It could be a reference maybe
does anyone know how to stop my cursor from going to other monitor
hey
Just some weird terrain left behind by the developers.
Nope it's a sci-fi reference
Do levithans spawn in the land void
No
Also what is sector zero
An Arctic megabiome
Like antarctic?, a continent with loads of ice on top of it
Or the arctic a frozen ocean
We were told it's one coast of that huge icy bit of land in the Subnautica end section
could be a pole
North or South, we have no way to tell
So that's to say there's a ginormous amount of land just out of reach
And a huge mountain
We only see it from afar
So I'd say more like antarctica
doesnt ending scene of sn1 kinda show its location?
Yes
where does it show it in reference to the planet then
No
To how much accuracy is up for debate since that planet is inaccurate to the craters layout
Wait wha.. I thought it did
We can see the continent but we orbit around the planet, there's no sense of direction
isnt this whats believed to be sector zero (SN1 ending spoilers)
We don't know if that's North or South
Fair
Mercury 2 had the worst fate of the crashed ships
So it could be sector 0 and it could also be a totally different spot
We were told it's the arctic megabiome sector 0 is located in
But obviously, the map isn't the whole continent
So we know it's north and we know it's really big
how do we know it's North?
I guess the aurora had the highest death tole
isnt that odd though?
i mean it looks like a big chunk of ice with no gaps or water inbetween
Crator isn't even near the size of a continent
No. Sector 0 is a sector.
wouldnt that make the world edge impossible?
.
guh
what
technically antarctica is a desert
but the snowy desert on the north and western edges of the map are literally called tundravoid
A treeless plain
Snowy wastes
alright guys BZ takes place in north america, europe and asia
Snow isn't necessary to be a tundra
In that huge continent, we are only in a coast. And it's probably too small to pinpoint the location.
The opening sequence doesn't help much
Well
If you know which direction the sun rises and sets
You can start to get a guess of the side
sure but there aren't exact answers
Area of 11.64 square kilometers.
we forget that the places we visit are really small from space
What about the arctic/s
Fair..
uh, not sure
the Crater's islands are not even visible
I thought you could see the islands
Floating is also really small
doesn't look like they're the same islands as we see from space
4546B is comparable to Earth, of all places
A bit smaller but yea
here's a blue trivalve to make you feel better