below-zero-chat

[worn plinth]

then leave?

[mellow geode]

i think let's just agree to disagree on the games' genre, because this isn't going anywhere constructive.

[worn plinth]

like? not our problem homie, if i dont wanna be somewhere then i wont join? 😵‍💫

[lime grove]

cause the chat about the first game isnt the place to discuss about the second game

[clever crow]

i wish we could use snowfox like in promo materials and worms could follow us, that would be sooo cool. sad.

[fervent bloom]

How is the Snowfox's actual use in the game different?

[wise bone]

What are you actually yapping about, why are you so hellbent on convincing everyone that Subnautica is a horror game

[steel shoal]

Oooo so biased, so power abusing, mhm.

[cerulean musk]

the land areas are pretty but kinda bad gameplay wise sadly

[steel shoal]

Thanks everyone, and especially Firefly for remaining calm.

[clever crow]

it's extremely slow, can't hover above water (whyyyy) and worms only exist in 1 small area

[plush fjord]

I've never encountered a ice worm

Not a big threat unfortunately

[wise bone]

cool vehicle idea with no real use unfortunately

[steel shoal]

I wish the Iceworm attacked the snowfox, instead of performing a random attack, and in case it hits you, it makes you stop riding it.

[mellow geode]

@fading lily you're not the first one to gripe that bz doesn't feel as good as sn and i can relate to that. but do try to accept that everyone is entitled to their opinions. your opinion may seem like a minority now but if the convo didn't devolve into ad hom and other logical fallacies, we might have had a more fruitful discussion.

[clever crow]

that would be an instant kill, no?

[mellow geode]

anyway, back to scary alien fish game, but freezing.

[worn plinth]

i guess it was probably more used for getting around on land by the scientists so it was useful compared to walking but in game its not much use

[fervent bloom]

I don't find it slow, but I make good use of the boost. With the same fragility and much more speed, it would be difficult to avoid colliding with almost every obstacle.

[clever crow]

maybe if worms were smaller... (it would be more realistic btw)

[cerulean musk]

yeah it kinda just plays like a animation and not at all a real creature

[steel shoal]

The Snowfox is incredible in the Arctic Spires, but it turns too slowly for it to be useful in most of the Basin

[mellow geode]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/515426920872280064.gif?size=48&quality=lossless

[worn plinth]

also theres so much land in this game compared to the original its kinda disorientating with all the snow i never know which way is which 😭

[lime grove]

i almost never used the snowfox (i suck at driving it)

[mellow geode]

i tried it once and decided that the prawn is superior.

[plush fjord]

That are argument was the most active it's been in here

[worn plinth]

seatruck gang

[steel shoal]

The Iceworm has a special animation for when it kills you on foot. They are good at making animations, I wish they had a special one for the Snowfox....

[fervent bloom]

I agree; it's extremely easy to get disoriented until you know how to find your way.

[steel shoal]

Pretty much, yea. Usually, conversations are significantly calmer

[wise bone]

wait really? gotta check that out real quick

[cerulean musk]

yeah the game legit forces you off to see the work they're made

[steel shoal]

The wiki lists it as a bug. It's possible.

[worn plinth]

ive never seen an argument in this whole server until today

[clever crow]

i didn't realise there is a little broken panel with hydraulic fluid cans and tried jumping the bridge with snow fox. didn't work(((

[mellow geode]

me running circles in arctic spires

[plush fjord]

Crazy how one dude can upturn everything

[cerulean musk]

is pretty easy to cheeze by building up to the artic spires

[worn plinth]

some people just wanna watch the world burn 👽

[clever crow]

that's too evil

[wise bone]

why build when you can launch yourself across the entire biome with prawn

[fervent bloom]

I absolutely love the Snowfox's ability to "glide" when steered off a ramp or a cliff.

[cerulean musk]

and its wall climbing is pretty fun

[mellow geode]

nah, most people just want to escalate things because they want their opinions to be heard. de-escalation is not something a lot of people know how to do.

[steel shoal]

I was thinking, does jumping stop the worm from getting you out of the snowfox?

[cerulean musk]

sometimes depends on the kind of attack i've experienced

[fervent bloom]

I think it helps you evade the attack, but it doesn't keep you on when it succeeds.

[mellow geode]

i learnt a lot about negotiation and conflict resolution due to my irl activities, but i digress.

tbh the ice worm doesn't even bother me in my prawn. just hug the walls when you're in his territory and he doesn't even poke his head out.

[bold monolith]

What does it list as a bug?

[mellow geode]

a wild ignis appears

[cerulean musk]

prawn should just be banned from being on land

[steel shoal]

An Ice Worm attack will bump you out of the Snowfox, dealing no damage to you, but hurting the snowfox.

[mellow geode]

but why

[cerulean musk]

broken

[steel shoal]

Prawn boosters don't make much sense out of water, but it's nice. I like the storage.

[bold monolith]

You mean the wiki says the knockback is a bug?

[mellow geode]

it's not a bug, it's a feature 😄

[worn plinth]

i think alot of people do its just a case of some people (including myself) feel the need to give their opinions back, arguments arent needed but in silly situations i see no harm except being annoying to the people tryna actually speak about the game 😭

[cerulean musk]

yeah it feels that way but man the first time on land in arctic spires with snowfox was so much more difficult than prawn the second time

[worn plinth]

but yes anywyas back to my original point like 45 minutes ago, is there a good map for the glacial basin? its so hard to know where im going 👽

[steel shoal]

Easier to just do this

I am not sure if the Worm was supposed to do anything else.

[cerulean musk]

looking at the iceworm animation test zone not one of them include a snowfox

[bold monolith]

It's a terrible feature but it's the intended behavior indeed.

[worn plinth]

why is ||parvans door just in the side of a cave? like this jus looks so creepy||

[cerulean musk]

bunker supposed to be like tha

[steel shoal]

||It's an improvised bunker, I think||

[worn plinth]

gonna be a pack of ||snow stalkers||on the other side

[steel shoal]

Imagine if Ice Worm module instead made it so if you get attacked, you don't get forced off of the Snowfox. And then you could put 2 modules at once. Oh yes.

[worn plinth]

and yes so like, what is the ||leviathan? like what species is that cus ive scanned the parts of it but it doesnt say||

[fervent bloom]

I think the boost is a sort of built-in upgrade module, as you can see one upgrade already installed when you open the panel.

[cerulean musk]

yea its really weird how they made such a weak vehicle and made 2 upgrade modules and said no you can only choose 1

[steel shoal]

The ferocious ||Frozen Leviathan||

[worn plinth]

they didnt give homie an actual name? 🥲

[steel shoal]

And then 1 of them is as simple as a jump

Homie deserved better

[plush fjord]

Its name is bill <3

[worn plinth]

yes his name is bill now

[plush fjord]

Cannon

[steel shoal]

Silly Billy, tried to be like those frozen Pous TikToks

[vestal delta]

rrrrrr

[slate valley]

mhhhhhhhhhhh

[eternal garnet]

Free pet! no murdering

[slate valley]

I ate him

[worn plinth]

how does the coffee machine work?

[fervent bloom]

You must insert one or two thermoses into the available space; they will be filled.

[worn plinth]

ahh okay no worries thank you

[opaque vigil]

hey how can i ask a question that contains spoilers?

[plush fjord]

Spoiler tagging

[clever crow]

||||||

[plush fjord]

|

Two of those on either side of the message

||Like this||

[opaque vigil]

|like this|

nope lol

[clever crow]

2| on both sides

[opaque vigil]

ahh

[old magnet]

Found the craters edge of below zero

Trying to just find an artifact

[fervent bloom]

Did you make the fun and exciting discovery that void chelicerates don't react to the Seatruck's perimeter defense?

[old magnet]

Nah I left the game right as the pda said I was entering ecological dead zone

I have a lot of unreasonable fears

[celest wolf]

will going to the surface or inside a base refill all your oxygen tanks?

or do you need to do them individiually

[fervent bloom]

Only tanks you're wearing are refilled.

[celest wolf]

dang, koppa mining site is gonna take 10% longer : (

[placid warren]

Hi!

I'm making a notebook for Below Zero and I need some tips!

[fervent bloom]

What exactly does that mean?

[placid warren]

just normal bz stuff

like things to beat the game

no spoilers

[celest wolf]

Get a seatruck early, they're pretty easy to get since their fragments are in the twisty bridges, which is pretty close to the starting area

[placid warren]

yeah I have that

[celest wolf]

make sure you have an air bladder so you dont drown if your seatruck is destroyed while deep underwater

[placid warren]

most important

let me check real quick if I have it

I don't

adding it

[celest wolf]

its not that good if you're too deep underwater though, more for when you're like 200 or 300m underwater

[placid warren]

alright

[fervent bloom]

In the Seatruck, getting out of the pilot's seat will stop creatures from attacking it.

[celest wolf]

probably doesnt work very well without modules

since you'll just exit the seatruck

[placid warren]

true

[celest wolf]

unless its one of the times where you spawn inside the seatruck

[fervent bloom]

This is very true, and important to note.

[celest wolf]

as an alternative, you can use perimeter defense to shock the creature. (Unless its a squidshark)

[placid warren]

charge it or no

in emergencies?

[fervent bloom]

Charging it is unnecessary, and it can damage the creatures.

[placid warren]

okay

[celest wolf]

refrigerate or cure fish?

[placid warren]

I do both really just depends

[fervent bloom]

Also, once you can, make the spicy fruit salad. It's an extremely good food option.

[celest wolf]

its gonna be used for food out at the base

[placid warren]

yeah its really good

[celest wolf]

outside I'll obviously use cured fish

[placid warren]

Its like +85 food?

[placid warren]

yes

[celest wolf]

cooked peepers btw

so its only 32+ food

[placid warren]

no the spicy salad is good to at least have one or two on you because you can get to focased and not look at you thrist and hunger, but the PDA tells you to drink & eat unless Hardcore

sorry my grammer sucks today!

true

+85 Food - +30 H20 - +100 Body Heat. I think

off the top of my head

I wouldn't have found the spicy fruit salad if it wasn't for ||A.L.A.N|| because of one of the ||quests or architect things|| he gives you. (Not sure what its called I forgot)

[old magnet]

Are artifacts important

[placid warren]

they are

[old magnet]

But don't they only give you blueprints

[eternal garnet]

psst, important to explore around them also

[placid warren]

ion bois?

yes I call them Ion bois

[old magnet]

I already have ion batteries

[placid warren]

don't judge me please

[old magnet]

Are they still important

[placid warren]

yes

[old magnet]

Do I need them to complete the game

[placid warren]

you don't but their nice to have

so your seaglide doesn't die

[old magnet]

Alright and how do I continue the game I've been waiting for ||alan||to give me something for 3 hours

[placid warren]

explore other biomes or even find PDA's for lore

[old magnet]

I'm exploring but I'm going in circles or going into the dead zone

[placid warren]

the best way to enter or avoid it is EAST or South-east.

[old magnet]

Nvm I just found the spy penglings use I think I can finally progress

[placid warren]

nice

[worn plinth]

so i was just playin and just doin a few things and then i put ||the antidote into the thingy and cured the leviathan, in a simple yes or no, is that all there is to the story other than finding Al-An a body?||

i havent finished the whole thing yet snd dont wanna spoil it for myself by searching it up but now im annoyed cus theres so much i havent explored but already ||cured the leviathan|| and i dont want that to be it storywise 😭 and the rest just me gathering what i havent picked up yet

[celest wolf]

why does the cured peeper icon look weird

its just a regular peeper thats red

[toxic harness]

@cosmic that part is a side plot you don't even need to do to complete the game. There's plenty more to do 😅

[worn plinth]

damn okay 😭 good i was abt to be so dissapointed if that was the story ahah

[toxic harness]

I didn't even remember to do it in my game 😅

There's kinda 2 separate-ish stories one with the thing you said and one with the other thing you said 😅 and other things to explore!

[worn plinth]

amazing thank you!

[celest wolf]

it looks like they grabbed the icon and just put a transparent red over it

[steel shoal]

The skin has a dehydrated look

[chrome cedar]

Peeper jerky

[celest wolf]

I think its glitched for me, it just looks like a regular peeper that got turned red

like a red tint on a regular peeper

no texture change

[steel shoal]

The skin is very red, but the eye is about the same

[celest wolf]

hoopfish and tartar sauce, after all "It actually tastes like fish"

[chrome cedar]

Subnautica 2: The Search for Sea Sauce

[fervent bloom]

Perhaps it's possible to make a sauce of some sort out of fevered peppers.

[chrome cedar]

Scene opens, bridge of starship…. Computer voice: Welcome to 4546b. Again.

Lieutenant approaches the center chair, Captain Robinson, are you sure about this?

Riley swivels his chair to face the Lieutenant, smiles and gives a nod. He heads to the bridge escape pod and steps in. But sir, the Lieutenant exclaims, one of our shuttles can easily land you safely! And you have almost no provisions!

Riley checks his bag, a can of Old Bay, a bottle of Frank’s Red Hot, a jar of Cocktail sauce, and a packet of sushi rice. Standing in the center of the pod, he presses the Launch button.

[steel shoal]

There's an inaccuracy with your message

Everyone knows Alterran swivel chairs don't swivel

[chrome cedar]

Actually the one on the Neptune rocket I believe did.

[fervent bloom]

Perhaps only the Board of Directors gets that priviledge.

[steel shoal]

It's less than 180

[chrome cedar]

Maybe it can do a 360, but does it 90 degrees at a time. Careful you don’t get whiplash.

[elder badger]

Am I crazy, or were there some random crates way off in the void in one of the first early access builds?

[chrome cedar]

Possibly it was an early test area? I never ran it.

[elder badger]

I swear it was a video I saw, but I can't find anything about it

[chrome cedar]

The cake is a lie.

[unique jacinth]

They don't turn last time I checked

[elder badger]

well then

I'm in the first early access build and I already broke water without trying🗿

[chrome cedar]

They’d better fix that!

[elder badger]

I think I like the original Robin voice more

[celest wolf]

the lilypads would be very flat trees or a weird looking venus flytrap

they'd look like floating islands with floating lilypads

I'd assume lost river without water looks like a cave containing a dinosaur fossil

why does robin have voice lines but ryley doesnt?

[fervent bloom]

Robin is more talkative, perhaps. She also has people to talk to...

[celest wolf]

the only person I saw robin talk to is the guy on the ship she left at the start of the game

maybe the pda made it feel less lonely since it sounded less like a robot

[fervent bloom]

Don't forget ||Marguerite|| and ||Al-an||. Still, maybe Riley doesn't talk as a way of processing the shock of the crash.

[celest wolf]

I forgot to mention the ||woman in the prawnsuit||

[celest wolf]

I wouldnt be very talkative either if I was in a catastrophic crash of a giant ship.

[fervent bloom]

Image how he feels when the ||Sunbeam|| is obliterated.

[celest wolf]

well I mean, howd he think the aurora crashed?

and its not like he couldve done anything, his radio input was broken

[bright badge]

So apparently you can still play the sunbeam event in Subnautica BZ by using console commands playsunbeamfx

the animation plays and everything

[steel shoal]

Lots of leftover code, more than I thought

[celest wolf]

does it get ||shot down|| out of thin air

[bright badge]

yes

the sunbeam be looking pretty good in BZ

[steel shoal]

If you're too far away, it'll be the size of the Aurora

[fervent bloom]

Is the arctic ray the only fauna larger than one slot that has a description as an item? It's described as a "speedy ray", but other creatures just have their name.

[old magnet]

What kinda spoilers are these

[bright badge]

they're not just left over code from Subnautica in Below Zero

[old magnet]

Oh

[bright badge]

you know the sunbeam event in Subnautica where the gun shoots down the sunbeam?

[old magnet]

Yeah

[bright badge]

so basically the command still exsist in Below Zero

[chrome cedar]

That’s pretty funny.

[bright badge]

ikr

lol

was hoping to spawn in the aurora but can't do that

[chrome cedar]

😂

[bright badge]

bruh never thought about that and its the same color XD

thats no Moon its a ploon Billy The Ploon

[steel shoal]

I think they are

[fervent bloom]

I wonder why. Did they start working on the descriptions alphabetically?

[steel shoal]

I suppose they gave up after the first

[stone orbit]

those are some funny looking lungs

and are those supposed to be kidneys down there

[unique jacinth]

Spoiler that

[stone orbit]

i did

[unique jacinth]

Oh mb

Accidentally pressed spoilered thing before looking probably

[clever crow]

i disagree. ||agender||.

[steel shoal]

Correct

[carmine bobcat]

what is the console code?

for sunbeam

found it

[mellow geode]

this is bz chat

nvm i didn't realize the context

[eternal garnet]

yesbut, that was sunbeam in BZ

[steel shoal]

Given the context they've given, it's actually much more likely their species is agender

[finite vale]

I have never chatted here once in my life but, it can be assumed that ||The Precursor/Architect race, including Al-An, are agender and reproduce asexually||

[steel shoal]

Like the Emperor female voice, it's just a voice for our human heads to comprehend, it doesn't mean they're male/female

[finite vale]

Also it just falls more in line with the "||alien anatomy||" of Subnautica. ||That being that all the creatures are agender and reproduce asexually||

[steel shoal]

They don't identify as male, you identify them as such. It's a translated voice, not their actual voice. You can hear they sound mostly like beeps and womps

[finite vale]

||The precursors aren't biotech like the Warpers. They are just highly genetically altered organisms.||

[finite vale]

wait is that right? been a while since I played BZ.

[plush fjord]

Probably sounds like the warpers

A mind in a synthetic body

[steel shoal]

The concept of sex is not irrelevant, it's part of biology.

[finite vale]

Ohhh yeahhh that's a better explanation.

[plush fjord]

I mean the untranslated voice

[steel shoal]

You can hear the Alien voices in the QEP

[finite vale]

The PDA made them bri'ish 💀/j

[plush fjord]

I forgot about that

[steel shoal]

Yes, it's true

[finite vale]

"I'm speaking in an accent that's beyond her reach of hearing! " /ref

[plush fjord]

Portal

My beloved game

[steel shoal]

You download a data terminal that includes the translator. The first Data Terminal in the QEP

[finite vale]

He's speaking Minecraft Enchanting Table 🙏

[plush fjord]

It’s probably translated the same way we currently translate unknown languages

[finite vale]

I imagine at some point between Subnautica and BZ Alterra translated the language via research and such.

[thin temple]

We all need an ||ancient alien architect|| in our lives 😔

[finite vale]

Amen 💪

[thin temple]

Halo 4 Cortana 😫

[plush fjord]

I didn’t like that design

[steel shoal]

Does anyone know how often do the aliens reproduce? Because we only really get to know 2.

[thin temple]

Which aliens

[steel shoal]

Architects

[thin temple]

Do they just. Build eachother

Like in the movie "Robots"

[fervent bloom]

The other ||Architect|| is the unnamed individual from the ||Dunes Santuary||, right?

[steel shoal]

That's not true

[thin temple]

Yall know what I'm talking about right

I haven't been to the dunes, isn't it just sand and reapers?

Is there even any good stuff?

There's an Architect there?

Whaaat?

I'm confuzzled

[plush fjord]

They’re probably calibrated by weight because of how big architects are

[fervent bloom]

I wonder why the elevator shafts are perfectly calibrated for humans, but the similar effect in ||Al-an's ship|| slams Robin around.

[plush fjord]

Robin demonstrates what would happen if they weren’t at the end on bz

[steel shoal]

There are the remains of an alien criminal who got sentenced to working in 4546B for the cure. They were the youngest in the project. They downloaded themselves into a data terminal that unfortunately got corrupted.

I don't remember what they did

[thin temple]

When the swivel chair doesn't swivel

[plush fjord]

Didn’t bring anything to the potluck when they said they would

[steel shoal]

They were given a second chance to work on the cure. Clearly the creator of the swivel chair wouldn't deserve such treatment

[thin temple]

When the command chair doesn't let you command

[steel shoal]

I want a mod that changes the name to "unswivel chair"

[fervent bloom]

That's certainly a much better mod than one that makes it actually swivel.

[unique jacinth]

Or just makes it swivel-

[thin temple]

When the office chair doesn't spawn an office 😫😭

[unique jacinth]

It is the office if you just place a desk problem solved

[thin temple]

I'm having a brain blast

[finite vale]

Below Zero had so much wicked cool concept art, the game would've been so much more fun if they added the creatures. I get why they didnt add them (most of them were variants of pre-existing creatures from Subnautica) but still dawg would've been awesome.

The Arctic Peeper VARIETY! 🙏💯

[fervent bloom]

Which are you thinking of in particular?

[finite vale]

Most all of them tbh.

This is probably an unpopular opinion but I like this more than the chelicerate or however you spell it 💀

[safe sun]

I don't. That thing is hideous.

Plus we have the squid shark which is really cool.

[finite vale]

@steel shoal just asking before I continue. I'm not "flooding the chat" am I? I know you said someone else earlier was flooding the normal subnautica chat with images. Does sharing the concept art count?

[safe sun]

Big shrimp is scary if you customize the difficulty to crank up the damage. They're very quiet compared to the first game's leviathans.

[finite vale]

I like the idea that it can ram into things, like it can dent your hull and cause wicked damage.

[safe sun]

That entire concept should be a thing for sure.

[finite vale]

The Chelicerate just behaves EXACTLY like the Reaper, actually no, it's the Reaper's younger cousin.

[steel shoal]

You're fine, the other person sent about 10 images in a couple minutes, and they were not at all connected to the conversation.

[fervent bloom]

I disagree. I don't feel that it's a loss to not have this creature in Below Zero, and I like the chelicerate, but I like the design.

[finite vale]

Bring back the reefies.

[steel shoal]

That looks like an amazing reefback variant

[finite vale]

Exactly!

[obtuse imp]

what if it hit your base

[steel shoal]

The reaper variant is horrendous though, Tuna is right

[steel shoal]

Reefbacks turn away when they get too close

[winged gazelle]

I love the idea that the Reefback could raise out of the water and crush ice/you

[finite vale]

It stays above sea-level.

[steel shoal]

Surface level bases are very common in BZ

[finite vale]

That's what I said before starting this convo, but still, I like how these creatures aren't just clones. They have unique skills/behaviors! /lh
It's wicked cool. (I love saying "wicked cool" 💀)

Not an unused creature but much like earlier with the peeper, the Triops (and also Trivalve) had way more design variants

My favorite fish in BZ is the Triops so 🙏ADD THESE BACK PLEASE!

[steel shoal]

That's not how creatures work

[steel shoal]

I'd love color variants. So beautiful, and relatively easy to implement. At least we got 2 feather fish

[finite vale]

Like just seeing these concepts, it makes it so clear that BZ had a lot of unused potential.

[steel shoal]

It went through a rough development process

[finite vale]

I know that they wanted to deviate and make more original creatures but... a reefback that crushes ice and has land creatures riding on it!? Get out of town man, I want me some of that!

[steel shoal]

Rewriting the story while trying to reuse assets us really difficult

Eels are boring

Ice Worm fits your description, kinda

It has the most sophisticated AI, it doesn't follow any paths

Subnautica 3, as if there was a Subnautica 2 already...

[carmine bobcat]

where to find Trivalve?

[finite vale]

So uh, there are 3 locations with Trivalve eggs.

[steel shoal]

Looks like the brinewing

[carmine bobcat]

where

[finite vale]

Yeah, it was a missed oppurtunity.

[finite vale]

Just look it up on Youtube, bro-man.

[steel shoal]

They're well hidden. Look for tutorials on YouTube as they're in very specific places

I found them all on accident

[finite vale]

I just got warned for bypassing the swear filter, I didn't even realized I did that-- sorry.

[carmine bobcat]

NASA Computers can install Subnautica in 0.01 seconds

[finite vale]

This is cooler than the goofy zombie Chelicerite in the void

[steel shoal]

But the rotten Chelicerate makes more sense

"Next Subnautica" is more correct, and just as easy to say.

[finite vale]

Wow, early Pengwing concept art

I have mixed feelings, it's cooler but... what in the what?!

[steel shoal]

That's so... I'm glad we got the cuddly ones

[finite vale]

Honestly, same.

Trying to find more concept art but my computers lagging.

[steel shoal]

The Sea Monkey leviathan...

We got the coolest version, honestly

[carmine bobcat]

Riley its the Alterra most famous employee, he survived Reaper Levathians and Kharaa on an Alien Planet called 4546B. I think we can find Riley on SN 3

[steel shoal]

Not sure

He doesn't deserve it

He deserves being at home, as he is right now

[finite vale]

Nah, bro is busy working off his 3 trillion credits 💀

[steel shoal]

He's in the Board of Directors, most likely. He has 0 bills for the rest of his life, and his job is to have ideas, nothing else.

[carmine bobcat]

riley disappears💀

[finite vale]

This is unsatisfying as heck but I believe that Riley died at the end of Subnautica

[finite vale]

That's not a theory, just my personal headcanon. (Yes I am giving you permission to disagree with me, aren't I such a great guy? /jk)

[steel shoal]

The PDA message was just a goof, Alterra HQ did give him permission to use naturally available materials and the Aurora to survive and escape.

[carmine bobcat]

How did Alterra get there again without crashing into 4546B? I don't see any Alterra ships.

[steel shoal]

Apparently, during development, there was a Ryley interview PDA entry. It was removed, though.

[finite vale]

The ||Quarentine Enforcement Platform|| was shut down at the end of Subnautica.

[steel shoal]

They landed safely, and left. There are no employees in 4546B anymore.

She's dead.

[carmine bobcat]

aww

[steel shoal]

Sam is dead since the start, you went to 4546B to find out exactly what happened.

[carmine bobcat]

aww

[finite vale]

Should we really spoil that tbh? I mean it's basic game lore.

It's legit the first thing we hear when booting up the game.

[steel shoal]

It's in the first segment of the game, and you get 2 PDAs about it when you reach the pod

[carmine bobcat]

||nah marg it's more important than Sam||

[graceful chasm]

Hey everyone, i've got an issue with BZ on my pc, can i pitch it to you to see if anyone can help?

[steel shoal]

The necklace isn't there

[carmine bobcat]

yeah

[steel shoal]

It's in Phi

[finite vale]

Ahh, gtg, was fun talking with you guys! See ya later.

[steel shoal]

That doesn't really mean anything.

You find it elsewhere

[carmine bobcat]

hey, you need to write this in #🐞bug-smash by only clicking the profile image of the bot and
Send a private message and say hi to report a bug!

[graceful chasm]

ah fair, i'll chuck it on that

[steel shoal]

The art doesn't matter

Hm, then what was in Phi?

[graceful chasm]

but essentially, i cant start a new save. loading screen gets stuck at 1 quarter of the way and my version on the top right corner states Early Development Build

[steel shoal]

Where did you get the game from?

[graceful chasm]

Steam

[steel shoal]

It's Potato's picture

[steel shoal]

Update the game

Go to properties, I think betas, and select current

[graceful chasm]

supposedly up to date on steam. I've got access to create the custom game mode which i'm pretty sure is the most recent. I don't have any betas selected

[chrome cedar]

If it’s an early build it’s at least two years out of date…

[steel stream]

Phi is in glacial basin (west), lilypads is omega lab

[steel shoal]

But Sam being dead is pretty obvious since the start

You're getting insurance pay and all

[worn plinth]

is there only 2 entrances to the ||mercury ship||

the door at the back and the hole in the roof on the left of it?

[steel stream]

Many more, since there are 3 separate wrecks

[worn plinth]

ohhh okay thank you cus having to navigate all the way back through is just going wrong 🤣

[steel stream]

I think the laser cutter doors are all inside the wrecks, if the question was about entrance to the wreck(s) from the open water

[worn plinth]

yeah into the wreck from open water

[steel stream]

No idea. Maybe check with the console showing player biome?

[worn plinth]

not sure, its on the border of lilypads and vent garden so id assume maybe its not

it doesnt seem like it on any map its just a poi not a biome i guess

[steel shoal]

I think it's a sub-biome

The Tree Cove is an example of a sub-biome

[eternal garnet]

There are lots of sub biomes. The monkey tunnels in lilypads, the purple tree area.
Usually they are visible on the F1 screen

[worn plinth]

i found ||maidas greenhouse but the doors locked|| is that something that ill work out further in the story? or am i being silly and need to use a tool?

[chrome cedar]

If she didn’t invite you to meet her there, you can’t get in.

[worn plinth]

oooh okay thank you hopefully im not far off

[chrome cedar]

You need to ||disable the radio tower|| to get the invite.

You may want to drop a beacon so you can find that spot again later though.

[fervent bloom]

Preferably, don't drop it but use a quick slot to prevent it from sinking through the terrain.

[chrome cedar]

For on land, definitely.

[tacit thorn]

Since when seamonkey nests can be moved with the industrial gravity gun??

[chrome cedar]

😱

[carmine bobcat]

a

[worn plinth]

vr subnautica sounds terrifying

[thin bolt]

A shadow leviathan (I haven't played below zero in a while so idk if that's the actual name) hiding in the shadows while your in vr, I would never play again 😭

[carmine bobcat]

this vr costs only 3500 $

[cerulean musk]

you could get a quest 3 for a tenth of that price

[carmine bobcat]

no

[slate valley]

its already scary enough when you just hear "ROOOOOOOOAR" and then the spawn of luciger fetches your soul

[carmine bobcat]

i buyed it

don

[slate valley]

Bruv i think you got scammed

[thin bolt]

The reaper leviathan on vr 😰

[slate valley]

or the woman jumpscare at || delta ||

[thin bolt]

😭

[slate valley]

woman jumpscare goes crazy tbh

[thin bolt]

Fr

[left marsh]

#memes-and-media This is below zero chat.

[cerulean musk]

more #off-topic tbh

[tacit thorn]

is there a rule how items get sorted in inventory when they have same name, but different textures? Trying to sort my green and orange corals

[steel shoal]

I think it's based on time

[spice loom]

Game seems good so far.

Appears to be easier then the first.

[eternal garnet]

1. Did you ever have mods installed? Even before reinstalling
2. On a mac?

Didn't have ever?
Ok. Is your CPU either old or in an office type PC?

[spice loom]

Guess Below Zero is not a fan of cats. lol

[eternal garnet]

potetially an easy fix here

[tacit thorn]

there should be an error log in game folder I think?

[bold monolith]

Remove the mods.

[eternal garnet]

log isn't there

[bold monolith]

Let me see your installation folder.

Screenshot it.

[eternal garnet]

I'll let Ignis handle, he's better at this

steam_emu

Try buying the game

"again"?

sigh now he will get hacked forever by the trojans he installed

That's how your steam gets hacked, people

[tacit thorn]

not by clicking weird links from discord dm's?

[eternal garnet]

oh there are many juicy ways

But pirated games is a great way

What you download is never clean

[tacit thorn]

sometimes it is. But it is quite hard to fit those exes in virustotal size limits

[eternal garnet]

that thing will never catch the 0-day (fresh) trojans

Anyway, off topic

[spice loom]

Not that much to pay in the slightest.

[tacit thorn]

0-days are not likely to be in pirated games. They take too big of delay between upload and wide spread for the payload to remain undetected AND nobody is going to waste a real 0-day on untargeted attack.

Lolz, I found out something weird. First, there are two texture variants of coral, orange and green, that you can see when you drop them (or use glass shelves mod). But when you craft something like cpu and uncraft it, the coral turns into red version. See all three on this screen.

weeeeird

Wish it was possible to build a hatch on top of alien containment for roleplay reasons.

[left marsh]

I think that was likely missed. It is kinda cool to havw all 3 colours ig?

[tacit thorn]

variety is nice, like with sulfur piece/pile but my OCD would really like a diff icon or name marker.

[left marsh]

I mean.. in the end table coral is table coral

[tacit thorn]

ingredient wise, yes, but I have glass display cases mod enabled and it annoyys me when theyre mixed up

[fervent bloom]

Aren't there three or four colors: orange, purple, green, and possibly blue?

[chrome cedar]

I’ve only seen orange and green.

[fervent bloom]

Tomtores's image has the purple variant, and I know there was a photo of a blue one in the Twisty Bridges on the wiki.

[chrome cedar]

I saw the pic, just not sure where those were found. Or if they’re still in the current version.

[tacit thorn]

I know they exist as wall version, but dont think I've seen them as drops. Would have to check all my stashes.

Project "mining slaves" is a go

[fervent bloom]

I thought rock punchers you hatched didn't dig up rocks.

[tacit thorn]

they don't. these are wild ones I gathered from area. Industrial gravity gun for a win.

3 seems good number of workers I can process at once. maybe 4 if they are spread around.

Goes reasonably fast and yield is around 25% titanium

[left marsh]

That’s actually ight

[tacit thorn]

75% slag is not great, but hey, its garanted slow source of titanium

[fervent bloom]

If you like picture frames, the copper is useful.

[tacit thorn]

will you believe if I say I got all the copper I will ever need?

[wheat urchin]

Should be able to fit 5-6 in that area no?

[tacit thorn]

Not an area limitation, but how fast they dig stuff up. If they are bundled together, I cant swim in to grab rock. It is easier when they are spread apart.

it is also a challenge of finding more wild oes in the area

[left marsh]

Bring up the ones inside the mine

[tacit thorn]

will do later if can't find fourth one on surface side. mine has lot of narrow passages with hanging equipment, pretty uneasy to drag large creature through

[wraith creek]

I would play S:BZ if the ||Pygmy Crabsquid/Grabsquid|| was added.

Instead we stay stuck with baby crabsquid

[thin temple]

Sir what on earth is a Grabsquid

Shadow Leviathans when its Groundhog Day

[wraith creek]

Early concept art for the idea of the Sea monkey

[plush fjord]

Cute

[sonic forge]

bapy..

[finite vale]

I'd play it a whole lot more if the Icebreaker was added aswell

I had a whole convo abt it earlier, but lots of the unused creatures (that are counterparts) would've added a lot of fun to the game.

Also, I forgot to share earlier during my convo but there are also a few really really interesting creatures that I wish made the final cut instead of them copying some of the other creatures (ex. the bladderfish and hoopfish) to the game. Like this one!

Here's a little bundle of Concept Art that I forgot to share earlier.

[steel shoal]

I'm glad they went with no eels

[finite vale]

Yeah eels are kind of meh.

I'm glad we got some Jellyfish-like creatures.

[steel shoal]

Same

Eye jelly eggs are amazing

[finite vale]

I really hope that Subnautica 3 delves more in to Deep Sea Gigantism

No idea why we call it Subnautica 3 💀tbh Below Zero felt more like a DLC.

[steel shoal]

It's not at all a DLC

[finite vale]

I know that it isn't.

[steel shoal]

It's its own thing, a standalone expansion

[finite vale]

I'm just saying, it feels like a DLC to me. /nm

It's smaller, and just... meh.

[steel shoal]

It feels really different from SN, it is played in a different way

The map is smaller, but most of the SN map was empty anyway

They went with a more detailed map

[finite vale]

For me it's mostly the "what could have been" thing, which is why the concepts are some of my favorite.

Still, just feels like a DLC to me. I know it isn't but, you know.

[steel shoal]

Your definition of DLC is confusing

[finite vale]

I'm saying it feels like one, not that it is. It's smaller, and felt more like a little addition rather than an actual full-on game.

[unique jacinth]

It's a pretty big addition-

[steel shoal]

The game is huge

[finite vale]

It felt so small to me.

[unique jacinth]

1-2km by 1-2 km (I think) ain't exactly small

[steel shoal]

The size difference is not as big, and the vehicles are kinda slower. The map is shallower but still very deep

[finite vale]

I was kinda meh on the story aswell. Robin was annoying to me, I prefer silent protagonists.

[steel shoal]

It isn't a survival-first game, a silent protagonist wouldn't work...

[mellow geode]

so we're just voicing opinions, got it

[steel shoal]

BZ is very different, perhaps too different for some people

[finite vale]

Yeah that's pretty much my mentality /lh

[steel shoal]

It tried to stray away from the previous game and that messed up with the people expecting SN2

Maybe the next title will be more in line with those expectations?

[finite vale]

I think that I like the environment and original creatures the most with BZ.

[mellow geode]

no, subvert expectations please

[finite vale]

The map is pretty small, but like you said it's nicely detailed. My favorite biome is the Lilypads Biome.

[finite vale]

Voicing an opinion isn't bad. /nm

[mellow geode]

never said it was

[wise bone]

whats /nm?

[finite vale]

/not mad. I wasn't being agressive.

[wise bone]

ah oki 👌

[mellow geode]

just stating it out loud so that people don't start arguing opinions as facts

[steel shoal]

The story had to be rewritten, and had to use the same assets. They did an amazing job, but it wasn't perfect ||Maida is still alive, Al-An knows about music harmonies but not about music||but to rewrite a story like this is no easy task. If they had a clear vision since the start, it would've been so good...

[finite vale]

Yeah I hate when people do that.

[steel shoal]

Subnautica is a horror game!!!!

/j

[mellow geode]

😄

[finite vale]

I'm not trying to say my opinion is a super correct one that everyone should agree with, we all have different tastes and our own personal views. I'm just trying to say my thoughts on Below Zero since it's super different from OG Subnautica.

[steel shoal]

I understand your point, but "DLC" is the wrong word

I can't quite think what is the correct word, though

[mellow geode]

maybe we can have a BZ dlc that used the original storyline before it got scrapped

[steel shoal]

It got scrapped because the writer left. I don't think they can use it

[finite vale]

I was just trying to say that like, it felt smaller and fell weaker than the first Subnautica.

Wait the OG storyline... I think I remember some of that.

The baby ||Emperors|| were in the Lilypad Biome and you could collect ||Enzyme-42|| from them. That's all I remember.

[mellow geode]

can always find another writer/volunteer to do something with it, real world concerns not withstanding

[steel shoal]

That's not what I said

They did get a new writer to help with the new story

[finite vale]

Off topic but on the thoughts of Subnautica 3 I really hope they put in at least a little social commentary on climate change, that would be neat.

[mellow geode]

but new story is totally different from old story... i want to see where the old story would take us

[steel shoal]

They did leave the pre-frostbite update available on Steam. I don't think they're allowed to use and develop the story of a writer that left like that.

[mellow geode]

why not though...

[steel shoal]

I don't know, maybe it's their work

[finite vale]

Moral reasons, it's that writer's work. It's just respectful not to continue their story without them on board or getting their permission.

[steel shoal]

I put they keep adding lesbians ✨

[finite vale]

Chemicals in the water that turn the freakin' peepers gay! /ref

[steel shoal]

[mellow geode]

i'm not an expert on corporate law but usually work done by an employee remains the IP of the company even after the person leaves, so...

[clever crow]

bruh

[steel shoal]

I'll see if I can have that changed, Cepoe

[clever crow]

gay okay but homosexual bad?

[finite vale]

Thanks to this being an emoji, it is now canon that all Peepers are in fact lesbian. /j

[mellow geode]

lol

[steel shoal]

Alien Eggs PDA entry confirms it too

[mellow geode]

aren't they asexual

[finite vale]

Yeah.

[steel shoal]

Yes but they're all the same sex, they can be asexual mothers

[clever crow]

anyway. sn team has to add all small fish from consept art. no reason not to

[mellow geode]

so it becomes the peeper's choice

[finite vale]

I wish...

So many small fish... So many missed oppurtunities...

[steel shoal]

BZ had so many small fish

I still want more though

More color variants and such

[wise bone]

i like that you can pick up rockgrubs in bz

[mellow geode]

small things that claim to be fish but don't look like fish
e.g. spinner

[finite vale]

I really want an octopus/squid creature in Subnautica 3

[clever crow]

reproducing asexually not good for the species. if you are genetically identical you all die to viral/fungal infection at some point. happens irl all the time

[finite vale]

Like an intelligent one that grabs things, squishes around on the sea floor, maybe lives in some tidal area. Would be lit.

[wise bone]

need more crabs

[finite vale]

wheatley crab!! /ref

[mellow geode]

can we just call it TNSG (the next subnautica game) because we don't even know if it will be called sn 2 but it's definitely not sn 3

[steel shoal]

I want more species interactions. In-lore, Squidsharks hunt Brute Sharks and Glow Whales, and in turn are hunted by Chelicerates. Too bad they don't do it, though.

I also want cannibalism grrr raaaawwrr

[wise bone]

tbf we know what they mean when they say sn3, no ones talking about the 4th game already anyway

[finite vale]

Subnautica 3 sounds sillier

also Below Zero is technically a sequel to Subnautica.

[steel shoal]

BZ is an adjacent story

[wise bone]

it's a sequel, just not called subnautica 2

[mellow geode]

a sequel yes, in terms of it being released after sn. but it isn't sn2.

[finite vale]

It takes place after the Subnautica story too.

[steel shoal]

It's the MGR:R for MGS

[clever crow]

in terms of story time line too

[wise bone]

i doubt they'd even call the next game "Subnautica 2", boring name

[steel shoal]

It takes after the main story, with the same characters

[mellow geode]

the point is that it isn't called subnautica 2: below zero.

so the next game cannot be subnautica 3

[finite vale]

It's not called Subnautica 2 because that would be boring as heck.

Also, some games that are sequels can have different names than the original.

[steel shoal]

I'm expecting Subnautica 2: bla bla bla, if they go with that kind of name

[clever crow]

subnautica: below three

[finite vale]

I'm expecting just Subnautica: Titlenamegoeshere

like with Below Zero

[mellow geode]

the next game could be called sn 2, if the story somehow continues what happened in sn

[finite vale]

Barely anything happened in Subnautica.

[steel shoal]

Below Zero is very different on purpose, makes sense they didn't go with Subnautica 2 for it. Obraxis also sent a couple messages here saying that BZ ≠ SN2

[finite vale]

Aurora crashes, Ryley ||escaped||, thats about it.

[steel shoal]

PDA reading is cool. There is a ton of stuff behind the Aurora

Behind figuratively, because on that side of the map there's nothing

[finite vale]

Well now the feeling I have for Below Zero makes more sense to me.

[steel shoal]

The Aurora was the largest cargo ship, and it was tasked to build a Phasegate in the Adrianne arm, but crashed on the way due to miscommunication. We could maybe get another try at that?

Or do something for Alterra again

[finite vale]

I really hope we don't get a copy of the S1 format.

"Aaahh! I crashed and have no way home!" grabs materials, home depot theme starts playing, goes home

I hope they do something more original.

[steel shoal]

They most likely won't copy, but they did say that it was a "Subnautica game"

[finite vale]

Something I really want is a super tropical Subnautica. I know that S1 had that feeling but you know, it would be cute to have a huge tropical-themed area with lots of coral and bright vibrant biomes.

[wise bone]

i did find it a little odd when they changed the bz story to start with crashing into the planet

[mellow geode]

man don't get me started on the astronomy of the universe... so many people insisiting that it's all in the andromeda galaxy

[finite vale]

I said this earlier but I'm also really hoping for Deep Sea Gigantism (I can explain if needed) has a bigger play in Subnautica 2.

[steel shoal]

They are definitely going to take some stuff from BZ, like how they made biomes. SN was too sparse, didn't feel very tropical except for the center pieces and a couple other biomes.

4546B is very hot, even in the Arctic areas

[finite vale]

I just hope S2 makes things way bigger, like maybe even a bit larger than the Subnautica crater, but also while keeping things detailed and fun like Below Zero.

[steel shoal]

That's exactly what I wanted

[mellow geode]

idk how ambitious the devs might be with UE5, who knows we might get procedurally generated maps

[clever crow]

subnautica's biggest flaw is that map could be bigger

[steel shoal]

But it's important to understand that they're not Baldur's Gate 3 devs

[finite vale]

Like I prefer S1, but like you said ofc it's very sparse and there are some biomes that are just... NOT even biomes more like flat areas with names (Sea Treader path, The Dunes)

[steel shoal]

Unity held back the devs

[finite vale]

Meehhh, bigger issue is what me and she said. It's not that epic of a map.

It's big enough, just lacking in detail and some biomes have no creativity.

[steel shoal]

UE5 doesn't require a ton of custom code to allow open world maps

[mellow geode]

BG3 devs have the advantage of making DOS2 before that, so they had prior knowledge and experience. our devs are using UE5 for the first time, i ain't gonna expect it to be flawless

[wise bone]

the acronyms, what do they all mean

[finite vale]

Reading a reddit post be like:

[steel shoal]

BG3 is the largest (in scale) game

[mellow geode]

BG3 - Bauldur's Gate 3
DOS2 - Divinity: Original Sin 2
UE5 - Unreal Engine 5

[clever crow]

whatever's procedural must get reworked by ppl. it would be a W for us

[steel shoal]

I like the handcrafted maps a little bit more, though

[finite vale]

Okay hear me out;

[steel shoal]

Not a little bit, I love them so much 🫶🫶

[clever crow]

yeah that

[wise bone]

I think it'd be too hard to have as much detail as SN and BZ when using procedurally generated maps

[finite vale]

In Subnautica 3 what if the Void had a bottom (like it originally did WAAAYYY back in ye ole days of Subnautica) and we had a story mission where we needed to go down there

[unique jacinth]

Meh

[wise bone]

void is a massive area of nothing I don't think it would be interesting to have to explore

[steel shoal]

The Dead Zone used to have a bottom, but it was removed for performance, and also to stop people from building down there. Things get laggy.

[unique jacinth]

How are we going to get down there without some overly insane depth module tbh

[mellow geode]

you can still have procedurally generated maps using handcrafted assets. but as i recall UE5 boasts tools to make world generation much easier and you can get massive worlds that look handcrafted without actually needing to put in as much effort.

[finite vale]

Still, would be cool to go down there.

[mellow geode]

nothing down there except void leviathans. 1/10 biome.

[wise bone]

oh really? sounds pretty cool

[steel shoal]

Dead Zone being boring is by design, not me favorite place

[wise bone]

I hope they spend a lot of time perfecting the next game rather than rush it out

[finite vale]

I have a friend IRL who told me a neat idea, that if Subnautica had a bottom to the void, we should've been able to find super crushed wrecks of lifepods and such

Since some of the lifepods sadly deployed into the void.

[wise bone]

with the pressure down there, would they be even recognisable as lifepods

[steel shoal]

Most of the pods didn't even launch

[unique jacinth]

1-20 or something like that launched according to the black box in Aurora

[mellow geode]

it's a little long and kinda off topic but this shows what UE5 is capable of in world generation. and that's from over 2 years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxJ5DG8Ytog

[wise bone]

true, though there's like 15 unaccounted for

[steel shoal]

I must check the starting sequence, but the lifepods 1-25 didn't launch all at the same time

[unique jacinth]

So like at least a few went badly

Or just launched into explosion

[steel shoal]

It's possible that a few were deployed and exploded with the Aurora

[wise bone]

ooh oki I might watch it, UE5 is pretty impressive

[finite vale]

Going back to what I said earlier, I know this environmentally doesnt make any sense but it would also be cool to not even have a set theme! Just a bunch of neat mashed together biomes

[mellow geode]

assuming all 25 on the port side launched, yes.

[steel shoal]

Subnautica is at least realistic in some parts, but we can have a lot of diversity in the same map

Arctic Spires, Lilypads and Koppa are in the same game

[wise bone]

I'd hope at least most of them did
unless they bribed the safety inspectors

[finite vale]

I hope we get some type of toxic biome like the ||lost river|| and (more specifically) Aurora before it's repaired, and we have to equip some certain upgrades/a special dive suit in order to get there. You know, a nice level of challenge?

[steel shoal]

We'll see. I currently only know of

[finite vale]

I really want Subnautica 2 to challenge us with new mechanics and such.

[steel shoal]

Yes, challenge

[mellow geode]

some puzzle elements might be fun

[steel shoal]

There isn't much challenge, I'd love more complicated things than turning off the engine

Although the ice dragon seemed kinda annoying

[finite vale]

Exactly! You know? Up the game!/lh (No pun intended )

[mellow geode]

right now it's all explore and discover. having to explore, discover and figure out how to open/access stuff would be fun

[finite vale]

I really want more challenges, that's one of my main things. Like I said, what if we had to craft things in order to access certain biomes? What if we had more interesting elements? New complex mechanics?

[steel shoal]

I also want more Ice Worm type leviathans.

Invulnerable leviathan that doesn't follow a path, they did it wonderfully

[finite vale]

I really want more leviathans with extra mechanics.

[mellow geode]

puppets? nah

i want real leviathans

[finite vale]

Like the orca-like reaper concept, it could ram into your vehicle and seriously damage/dent it.

[unique jacinth]

Boring

[finite vale]

Boring but new! /lh

[unique jacinth]

Basically a retextured ghost if it just rams

[steel shoal]

Not necessarily a puppet, but a force of nature, with more intricate attack patterns and not a fish swimming in circles

[finite vale]

The orca-like reaper didn't just ram.

[steel shoal]

They ram your cyclops

[finite vale]

It rammed and attacked.

[unique jacinth]

Oh so a reaper and a ghost got it

[finite vale]

In a cosmic sort of way yes. /ref

This is the creature I'm referring to btw.

[steel shoal]

Ugly reapa

[finite vale]

Also according to the art, it would try and knock you in to the water.

[clever crow]

what about regular reaper but with better ai? like proper stalking and maybe it actually uses sonar

[finite vale]

Better than the stupid chelicerate.

[steel shoal]

Wha...?

[finite vale]

The Chelicerate is so goofy

[clever crow]

nooo he is a dolph

[steel shoal]

Chelicerates are not reaper equivalents

And they're much more majestic

[clever crow]

nooo he is a shrimp dolph

[finite vale]

The Chelicerate feels like it was trying to be the Reaper but failed miseribly

They have the same mechanic. They scream at you and grab your vehicle.

[steel shoal]

It's more like a ghost leviathan, though. It's chill and rare. Beautiful and unique.

Dragons grab vehicles too

[finite vale]

It's not majestic...!? /lh

[mellow geode]

for the first part yes. the reaper tries to crush you. cheli vomits acid at you. very different.

[finite vale]

It looks like a shrimp that ate 18 tons of protein powder and chugged 3 protein shakes!!

[mellow geode]

wait nvm i'm confusing cheli with shadow

[clever crow]

you can avoid a reaper with a seaglide. shrimp locks you into a grabbing animation, never misses

[steel shoal]

I love the super sharp fins

[unique jacinth]

Better than the reaper abomination

[finite vale]

Not like the gigachad reaper with it's big ole muscles 💪

[stone orbit]

it looks hideous

[finite vale]

Hideous but at least I'm scared of it.

[unique jacinth]

It's just a boring colored mindless brute that will eat you

[steel shoal]

Reapers have very aggressive designs. They're not trying to be beautiful. Chelicerates are quite beautiful.

[unique jacinth]

It's not meant to be a horror game

[finite vale]

I mean... I should still be scared of it?

[wise bone]

i love it,,,,

[stone orbit]

things dont have to be ugly to be scary

[clever crow]

🥺 u are mean to designs i like

[stone orbit]

i can be intimidated by the chelicerate and still find them beautiful

[steel shoal]

Ice Worm is really scary when you're not in a prawn suit

[unique jacinth]

Some things are meant to be beautiful not try and scare you to death chelicerate fulfills it's purpose

[mellow geode]

ice worm when you're in a prawn suit: tis but a scratch, it'll buff out

[steel shoal]

Yea...

The prawn is also really tall, makes the worm appear smaller

[wise bone]

we need more threats to the prawn suit

[steel shoal]

We need to ground the suit

Why does the forward boost work above water, and why does it scale infinitely 😭💔

[stone orbit]

isnt there like

[wise bone]

because nyoom

[stone orbit]

the glitch that lets you walk on top of water in the prawn suit if you manage to get up there

[steel shoal]

I don't know, but there's a glitch with grappling the floor

[finite vale]

Sorry for not responding. I went afk. Did I miss anything?

[finite vale]

The chelicerate is not beautiful.

It's literally trying to eat you.

[unique jacinth]

That doesn't mean it isn't beautiful the two things can co-exist

[finite vale]

and it looks like a shrimp hit the gym 💪

[steel shoal]

Most things are beautiful and trying to eat you. Predatory fish

[unique jacinth]

Stalkers

[finite vale]

It's literally a shrimp that's built like the muscle emoji.

[unique jacinth]

I'm done arguing with you just have your opinion and I'll have mine

[finite vale]

Alright then. /lh

[unique jacinth]

Anyway ice worm vs shadow levi

[finite vale]

In terms of what?

[unique jacinth]

Big worm vs pretty yet aggressive leviathan

[unique jacinth]

In terms of:

[steel shoal]

I love both, I have bases in their habitats

[finite vale]

Hmm, tough call...

I like both of them. Both are pretty neat design-wise.

Alright I got one

Triops vs Eyeye

[wise bone]

both cool, but shadow in every way possible

[finite vale]

me personally Triops.

[steel shoal]

I to prefer @fervent bloom

[unique jacinth]

Triops

[steel shoal]

Such a nice fella

[finite vale]

Triops are so much cooler.

I shared the concept art a little while back, but there were originally TONS of variants of it!

[wise bone]

squidshark vs crabsquid though?

[finite vale]

^

[unique jacinth]

Squidsharks

[finite vale]

Oh that's tough for me.

Like really tough.

Mm... I have to go with the Squidshark.

[wise bone]

same tbh

[finite vale]

I love the Crabsquid but ehh... overhyped.

Trailer made it out to be a huge monster but in reality you can just easily avoid it.

[wise bone]

it is terrifying when you first see it though

[finite vale]

Got another one.

Cuddlefish vs Triops?

not triops--

Trivalve.

[wise bone]

cuddlefish for sure

I'm sorry but I find the Trivalve looks weird

[finite vale]

Me personally Trivalve.

[clever crow]

alien life form looks weird

[unique jacinth]

Triops

[finite vale]

I said Trivalve. I made a typo.

[unique jacinth]

Triops

[finite vale]

stands there staring at you awkwardly

Oh here's a good one

Ghost Leviathan vs Rotten Chelicerate.

[unique jacinth]

Prawn vs rahlobstah

[finite vale]

RahLobstah high diff /j

[stone orbit]

my favorite creature is the rock puncher

chelicerate being in second place

i just like how passive yet territorial they are

[clever crow]

rock grub 💚

[thin temple]

Adult Ghost Mid Diff

They could just ram them to death

Plus rotten bois are weaker than normal bois

[stone orbit]

so

||during the ending scene, robin goes with al-an to the architects’ home planet, what if the next game took PLACE in the oceans of said planet||

[finite vale]

...Mixed feelings about that...

On the one hand, would kinda suck, I mean come on man 4546B is the main setting! /lh
but on the other... an awesome advanced alien planet with possibly genetically enhanced ocean life?
Sounds wicked cool!

also, it doesn't really make sense because of the ||Kharra Bacterium||

[stone orbit]

||being in the architect’s home planet could mean more interactions with living architects meaning they play a much more important and prominent role in the game||

[finite vale]

||They could be dead||

[stone orbit]

||darn||

[finite vale]

language! bonks you on the head

(but really I'd probably change that, that could be bypassing the filter, which gives you a warning)

[stone orbit]

im sorry dont tell andy ill give you candy!!

[fervent bloom]

Hello!

[finite vale]

It's the TRIOPS MAN!

[fervent bloom]

Indeed, I suppose.

[finite vale]

I'm gon' tell yo mommy.

[steel shoal]

I guess it's time for you to get arrested.

[finite vale]

Banish him to the nugget cave /ref

I have no idea what word I got warned for, it was probably either the word that rhymes with swell or the dang word 🙏

[worn plinth]

i have an ||alien distres call|| but idk how to get to it, its in a cave but all caves ive been in surrounding it just are a dead end

[steel shoal]

Look for Koppa in your map

[steel stream]

That's not the distress call...

[steel stream]

When you approach the marker from the twisty bridges canyon, you should see green lights. Follow them.

[spice loom]

Does Below Zero take long to finish or is it somewhat slow paced?

[eternal garnet]

10-40h typically

You can definitely spend more than that

[spice loom]

Took me 13 hours to 100% Subnautica, maybe I can 100% this one too

[eternal garnet]

in twisty bridge canyon, at 180m, there are blinky lights and a side tunnel. Go in there

[steel shoal]

Oh nevermind I'm silly

[steel shoal]

13 hours? Definitely looked up stuff

[spice loom]

Not at all, it was actually very easy

[steel shoal]

BZ completion is the same as SN, you get all the trophies for beating the game

[steel shoal]

Wait... you used the PDA?

Good, BZ requires reading the PDA a lot more

[spice loom]

For the Clues I did

[steel stream]

Well, you can complete the game (as in get to the end) without doing some achievements (and same is true for the first game)

[spice loom]

For SN it basically gave you the achievements as you advanced

[steel shoal]

BZ is the same

There's the possibility of you forgetting stuff and then skipping important parts of the story, though

[spice loom]

The cuddle fish before ending the first game 😭

[steel stream]

For example I missed the pda in locker and never found dgr degasi base on my first playthrough of Subnautica (and thus didn't get the achievement for that)

[spice loom]

I went to everything I needed and could really, stabbed a ghost leviathan to death wasn't worth it at all took 20 minutes

The degasi sea bases are interesting, the lore behind them

[steel shoal]

Killing the fish won't award you with anything, it's just gonna waste time

[spice loom]

I was in the lost river and this bugger would not leave me be

Just wanted nickel

And this little sod wouldn't leave me

[steel shoal]

Here are some tricks - creature decoys keep them busy for a while. Alternatively, turning off the cyclops engine will make them stop targeting you

Also works with Seatruck

[spice loom]

What's the sea truck like?

[worn plinth]

amazing

[spice loom]

Not got that far

[steel shoal]

A looong seamoth

[worn plinth]

i love it

[spice loom]

Loooong seamoth

[steel shoal]

You get it very early, it's the best

[spice loom]

I like the idea of that

[steel shoal]

Although if you color it green, it looks like Shrek

[spice loom]

You're making that out to be bad smh

[steel shoal]

Can't unsee it. Have a good life.

[worn plinth]

my game is just being really buggy and things arent loading and i wanted to save and reset the game but now its taking 10 years to save bc nothings loaded in 👽

[steel shoal]

Oh

You can give up

[spice loom]

Series X runs the game quite well

[steel shoal]

That's the one bug that can't be fixed

[worn plinth]

no cus i last saved like an houe ago and thats uh

[steel shoal]

It might corrupt your save file too

[worn plinth]

stuff is slowly loading in

[steel shoal]

Oh

You were really lucky then

Most people never get to that part

I did, people didn't believe me 😒

[worn plinth]

like a base just spawned at my feet after like 4 minutes of waiting so im gonna hope it just loads and will save

they haters then homie cus its happenin to me 😭 so defo can happen

[steel shoal]

It'll take about 15 minutes, and then you'll have to quit and reload

[spice loom]

You're telling me my entire save can go corrupt?

[worn plinth]

damn

[steel shoal]

It's a rare bug

[worn plinth]

if my save data goes corrupt i might give up

[steel shoal]

Well known, but it doesn't often happen

[worn plinth]

or actually idk i kinda wanna reset

[spice loom]

I've just got to the turbine at the top of the hill before getting off last night

[worn plinth]

i just lost like 3 hours 😦

[spice loom]

Damnn

I am only an hour in, would hate to even loose this progress

This PDA Voice is something else

Yooo this death music is nice though

"Lost some belongings" 3/4 of my inventory empty

[left marsh]

I got ear cancer after hearing it

[spice loom]

These Graphics are beautiful.

[plush fjord]

I love the new pda voice

[spice loom]

Only thing is it can make some things hard to hear, I don't mean this in an offensive way.

[steel shoal]

Yes, it's part of having an accent

It's fun but not as clear

[spice loom]

These look awfully similar to the "Cables" from SN like the alien ones attatched to the different facilites

Not sure if it just me that thinks this

[steel shoal]

I can see the resemblance

[spice loom]

Need one more fragment then I am causing chaos with a sea truck >:)

[steel shoal]

It's super fun

It sounds and feels strong

[spice loom]

I can put a child in my pocket.

That is a first.

[fervent bloom]

What do you mean?

[cerulean musk]

pengwen i thinkl

[fervent bloom]

That was my guess.

[spice loom]

Indeed

I don't tend to try put children in my pocket

[tacit thorn]

These are just coral.
But if you explore a bit you will find something that resembles the cables more.

[cerulean musk]

was rite of the deep always in the game?

[tacit thorn]

added in some update as discoverable tape

[steel shoal]

It was added in a later update, but still during Early Access

[chrome cedar]

Technically it’s the OLD PDA voice, because Robin has an older mode PDA, in game lore it pre-dates the one from the original game.

It’s just that the game players hadn’t heard it before now. LoL

[cerulean musk]

i thoght it was just a xenoworx thing

[plush fjord]

Oh, cool

[chrome cedar]

Yup, Alterra bought Xenoworx and updated it.

[cerulean musk]

and didnt update it? right?

[chrome cedar]

They changed the voice and added more snark.

[cerulean musk]

yeah so therefor it would also be new in lore

not older than the one we have in SN

[chrome cedar]

Alterra is the newer model, Xenoworks is the older model.

Her equipment is borrowed…

[cerulean musk]

and not her pda

got it

you're contradicting yourself or im really dumb

[stone orbit]

why do the flora seem more alien and otherworldly than the fauna

if i didnt know any better you would be able to convince me i was on earth

[cerulean musk]

because in game on the left you see "Xenoworks" where alterra is in SN

[steel shoal]

The flora is quite realistic, for the most part

The weird pink plants are very... weird

[cerulean musk]

mister sir explain yourself

[cobalt monolith]

oh boy more drama, im getting blessed today

[chrome cedar]

Ok, one more time. Prior to the events in SN, Alterra Corp bought Xenoworks, and rebranded their items with minor updates. So the PDA in SN was branded Alterra. Two years later in BZ, we see Robin and her borrowed equipment with the PDA labeled Xenoworks, indicating it is an older model (at least 2+ years old). So, it’s an older PDA, but we are only now seeing this in the game.

Imagine you play a game and the game character is using a Windows 11 system. In the game sequel, the game character is using a Windows 7 system. Just because you saw it later doesn’t mean Win7 is newer than Win11.

[cerulean musk]

but the "borrowed" comment doesnt make sense tho? in that context she "stole" old equipment, from her own company?

[chrome cedar]

She wasn’t authorized to take it, presumably. And for all we know she did plan to return it. Who would miss a 2+ year old PDA when the new ones are out?

People keep thinking Alterra is an evil corporation (wrongly) and we have employees pilfering equipment…. 😂

[steel shoal]

But after BZ, we kinda see Alterra is not that bad. They treat their workers quite well.

[chrome cedar]

Agreed.

[cerulean musk]

so what you're saying is, she had a XW pda, talked to sam back and fourth 5 times, and then swapped after to an alterra pda, then she "steals" her old one back and doesn´t have more messages with sam after the buyout?

[steel shoal]

No

[cerulean musk]

wat

[steel shoal]

Robin doesn't own a PDA

[cerulean musk]

am i just misunderstanding everything

[steel shoal]

She borrowed all the equipment to check something in 4546B, and was planning to return it before anyone noticed.

[deep kettle]

That's a weird way of saying Robin pirated the PDA software 😔

[bold monolith]

PDA jailbreak.

[steel shoal]

Finally I can write my fanfics about Shadow Leviathans while in 4546B...

[chrome cedar]

Don’t use a pirated PDA to write it though.

[cerulean musk]

but how does it have personal files from another pda?

[chrome cedar]

Did you ever set up a new phone with your old email account?

Cloud sync is also a thing.

[cerulean musk]

yeah but why ever swithc then?

[chrome cedar]

We have no idea what Robin had before she came to 4546B. All we know is that she borrowed the PDA because the game tells us this.

[cerulean musk]

so, copied files from her own pda that had the most clues or whatever happended to sam and left the rest on her other new pda?

[chrome cedar]

We may never know. Also don’t know what she had for breakfast before she left, or if she maybe left the stove on.

[celest wolf]

is the seatruck dock the only thing being added to this game?

and also, any tips on finding the seatruck dock blueprint/fragments?

[steel shoal]

It was the only thing added in the latest update. Because it's an extra, you unlock it at the same time as the moonpool.

[celest wolf]

any tips for finding the moonpool then?

like, is it at one of the places on the alterra map or smth?

[steel shoal]

The story will lead you there. Once you get to that point, you will get many more things at the same time. Before it, you won't get anything much. It's not in the map.

[celest wolf]

should I go to the ||Pilots last location||?

[steel shoal]

Yes

[celest wolf]

is it there or is it more later in the story

[steel shoal]

Look for different caves, facilities or other points of interest

It's nearby the moonpool, yes

[celest wolf]

alr

is the docking module near the actual prawn suit fragments?