below-zero-chat

[stuck axle]

isn't there a scanner in the first game that scans the whole area with a red aura

does that exist here too?

[steel shoal]

Sonar?

[stuck axle]

i think

[steel shoal]

No, there isn't, but it isn't needed

Everything glows

[stuck axle]

awh

[stuck axle]

i mean when you're up above you can't see anything down there

[cerulean musk]

you can with commands

[stuck axle]

the sonar helped in that case

the architect artifacts are so

FINNICKY to find
they're usually in deep caves

the one near the dock was insanely crazy to find

it's in a literal mining site underground

[steel shoal]

One of them is very easy

One of them, I admit I missed it, had to search the entire biome for 30 mins

[stuck axle]

how do you get the other caches?
I've only found the skeletal one

do i need to wait till al-an says something

[steel shoal]

Read the map you got from Delta

[stuck axle]

i have it yeah

there's a few weird icons

[steel shoal]

North of Phi, there's an entire, probably unexplored area, on the other side of the bridge. You can look there. You can also visit South of Phi, that has a lot of important stuff as well.

The icons are Alterran Facilities

[tacit thorn]

technically, the diving scooter has minimap

[stuck axle]

oh damn

[steel shoal]

Remember to visit Zero and Omega, those don't have beacons

[stuck axle]

there's a what?

[steel shoal]

Seaglide

[stuck axle]

oh yeah

it does

[tacit thorn]

it displays a small hologram map

[stuck axle]

wish the seatruck had one so i wouldn't have to go out and pull out my seaglide

[stuck axle]

I'm gonna be here for a while wow

[steel shoal]

Each location has a hint

[stuck axle]

also what is Phi

[cerulean iris]

Greek symbol

[stuck axle]

ooooohhhhh

[cerulean iris]

And the name of the robotics lab

[steel shoal]

Phi Robotics, looks like a circle with a vertical line

You get a beacon of the landing pad

[stuck axle]

doesn't god of war use that symbol lol

[cerulean iris]

On the map it’s the symbol that looks like this

[stuck axle]

Gotcha

[steel shoal]

Greek letters... Omega Lab has been called the God of War logo

[stuck axle]

Lol

How close am i to the ending if i have the bones?

[cerulean musk]

||you need all 3 parts to finish the game||

[steel shoal]

Not very close

[stuck axle]

Dangit

Atleast i have the prawn suit for now

Still no idea where to get magnetite, I've already gotten nickel ore and kyanite

[tacit thorn]

there is some in very first green cave on the surface, in one of the ourposts. they look like d8.

[stuck axle]

oh?

I'm gonna need a guide myself

[tacit thorn]

what you need is an compass, deer sir.

[cerulean iris]

Have you been to the area with the big orange flower mushroom things?

[stuck axle]

I obviously have that

[stuck axle]

Yeah cotton anemone

Got a bunch of them on my way back

[vast lagoon]

hi guys, can some one please help me with this glich

its stuck inside each other

[tacit thorn]

pause game.

[carmine bobcat]

bruh

[tacit thorn]

copy your save. then save as you are before trying to entangle.

[cerulean iris]

On the way down you have to pass through that thin trench with the occasional branches of massive kelp. On the walls of that trench is where most magnetite is found

[tacit thorn]

usually swimming into one of them will shake them loose eventually, but have repair tool ready as they may take damage

or, if you saved just couple minutes before, you can just go back to that save, might be faster than trying to untangle them.

[old magnet]

Where do I find spiral plants

[stuck axle]

oooh

alright thanks

[vast lagoon]

oof
docking station helped

[cerulean iris]

At the entrance to the ||crystal caves||

Look for a plant that resembles a white trumpet looking up. It has red pieces coming off of it

You can only get 2 pieces before it breaks so bring some back and grow them in an outdoor growbed

[cerulean iris]

You can also find some in a big jellyfish (trust me, you’ll know when you see it)

[old magnet]

Everyone telling me what cave to look in when I ask a question and I didn't even know the caves had names

[cerulean iris]

All biomes have names

[old magnet]

So is the cave a biome

[cerulean iris]

Yeah. It’s a decently big one too that goes a lot deeper than it looks

[old magnet]

Is there any5hing around the cave that will help me find it

[cerulean iris]

It’s also the second deepest biome (technically the first and second are in the same, but it’s 2 parts) so have your depth modules

[old magnet]

The depth modules is why I need the spiral plant clippings

[tacit thorn]

water. the caves are surrounded by water.
Even more, its hot water. and sulfur.

[cerulean iris]

There’s an ||alien excavation site|| at the entrance, you just have to look around for the entrance hole

[cerulean iris]

Actually I think you can freeze to death if you stand still. Doesn’t make a lot of sense but it’s whatever

[tacit thorn]

You like being knocked down by worms and dont need storage trunk.

[cerulean iris]

If you learn the routes and keep on flat land, it’s admittedly fun to zip around at a billion mph

[tacit thorn]

tip: by bunny jumping you can go pretty fast in prawn

only upside of a bike is, you can pack it into your pocket and climb a ladder

[cerulean iris]

Not as much as the first game. Now you lose jet fuel even when falling

[stuck axle]

so let me understand something

where am i on this map
my pod

[west mountain]

Somewhere between the blue and yellow marker. There are three drop pod locations, so your position my vary a bit.

[stuck axle]

i thought the yellow was the delta station dock

because i spawned near the snowy area

[west mountain]

Thats what I wrote

[stuck axle]

the dock is a few meters in front of me

so I'm between the purple and yellow?

[west mountain]

I cant tell colors from your TV screenshot. Blue on top and yellow in the middle. Outpost Zero and Delta station

[stuck axle]

no that's purple lol

i need to get to phi robotics to see hints for the body artifacts

[stone orbit]

okay what do i do now

[sweet arrow]

||Phi is the one to the west||

[stone orbit]

||alan infests my brain and introduces himself and tells me i need to find a vessel for him, now what||

[sweet arrow]

||Now just swim around he will slowly tell you where to find architect artifacts||

[stuck axle]

I went back to maidas base and all i got was furniture

amazing.

[sweet arrow]

Yeah, that's really all you can get from her base, but you can also get a prawn frag

[stone orbit]

bz be like

useful fragments❌
seaglide and seatruck✅

[stuck axle]

i already got all of them from the mining site

[sweet arrow]

Make sure to put spoilers on important landmarks/ areas such as architect structures or like ||Maida's base||

[sweet arrow]

That's okay you would get it by ||scanning her custom prawn||

[stuck axle]

ok noted

[sweet arrow]

You can also get moonpool early if you find her before the cache

By scanning her moonpool

[stuck axle]

||what else am i supposed to do?? I've only gotten the skeletal artifacts||

[old magnet]

Wait

I assume you wait

[stuck axle]

aw man :(

[old magnet]

I don't know thought I'm not even half way through the game

[sweet arrow]

Hm do you want to know where to explore to find them? Also i suggest you ||cure leviathan and turn off altera coms||

[stuck axle]

||wait WHAT||

||you can cure a leviathan??? where||

[sweet arrow]

...

[cerulean musk]

try to find the glacial basin first

[stuck axle]

where's that

[cerulean musk]

west

[stuck axle]

west of where

the dock?

[cerulean musk]

yes

[stuck axle]

got it

[chilly veldt]

Whens the next game coming 🔥

[stuck axle]

how many meters away

[cerulean musk]

you'll know

[stuck axle]

graaaahhh

[sweet arrow]

||go to phi robotics(after fixing the bridge, i suggest you take prawn if you don't you will see why) then find phi robotics landing beacon, honestly if you explore phi robotics youll find it eventually||

[stuck axle]

||what bridge||

[cerulean musk]

||phi is before you cross the bridge||

[sweet arrow]

||i think it's about 700- 800m||

[sweet arrow]

||Yeah i know, i was saying once they fix bridge they will want to take a prawn across|| only mentioned it because knew they would end up seeing it

[sweet arrow]

Don't worry about it for now

You will later

[cerulean musk]

just try and head east of delta and youll meet some new fauna and possibly get a ping

[sweet arrow]

@stuck axle ||you will know you have found phi robotics after finding these things||

[sweet arrow]

East? They are trying to find ||phi|| though

[cerulean musk]

west sorry

[sweet arrow]

Lol

[cerulean musk]

whoops

cardinal directions are hard

[sweet arrow]

Don't worry we all get turned around some times

||Also it's funny I'm pretty sure i got to outpost 0 early in my game because i used prawn to go on ice and then think i jumped over an invisible wall||

[stuck axle]

||eye jellyfish?||

||but I've met those before, and bigger ones too||

[sweet arrow]

Yes

[sweet arrow]

Well they you were prolly at the ||phi center|| then

At some point or another

[stuck axle]

||there was just a big wall of ice||

[sweet arrow]

?

[stuck axle]

I didn't see anything it was just a big wall of ice

[sweet arrow]

Ah you prolly were in west arctic, just had to go northwest

[stone orbit]

Parctic Eeper

[cerulean musk]

love it

[stone orbit]

arctic peeper❌

arctic sleeper✅

[plush fjord]

I'm sure it's sleeping

[stone orbit]

hull integrity begone

[mossy pine]

Where is magnetite?

[stone orbit]

so he doesn't know what music is, yet uses a stringed instrument as an analogy???

[cerulean musk]

#memes-and-media

[carmine bobcat]

don

[tacit comet]

imagine having to replace broken strings on whatever instrument he uses

[cerulean musk]

yeah there are a few of these over contradicting statements by alan

[carmine bobcat]

uhm

[stone orbit]

that is very smart

[cerulean iris]

If you find a cavern filled with massive, orange flowery mushrooms, it’s on the walls of the trench that leads into it from above

[tacit comet]

You can also find it in mineral veins on land, and in the Crystal Caves

[stone orbit]

will predatory fauna in containment cells eat other fish

[bold monolith]

No.

[tribal grove]

They become tame when places in containment cells

I guess I dislocated my shoulder. Mining is tough work....

[left marsh]

“Tis but a scratch ”

[tacit comet]

So cursed, and yet, so beautiful.

[cerulean musk]

360 protection from chelies

[stone orbit]

sadly we dont have chiropractors for prawn suits

[cerulean musk]

i think the reaper from the first game could give him a good rustle tho

[stone orbit]

i remember getting “chiropractor” and “protractor” mixed up

and then saying chiropractors are used to measure angles💀

[cerulean iris]

One time I got a glitch where both of my prawn arms were raised high above my head like it was cheering at a football game. Every time I jetted somewhere, I just imagined it screaming WWEEEE! as we flew

[tacit comet]

lol

do you have a pic?

[cerulean iris]

Nah, it was weeks ago and it fixed itself when I docked the prawn in my moon pool

[tacit comet]

ah ok

[old magnet]

I can't find spiral plants

[left marsh]

In ||adult vent garden||

[tacit comet]

and in ||deep purple vents|| I think

[fervent bloom]

You're right, especially around the ||artifact|| there and in the deeper sections.

[stone orbit]

i dropped a whale egg in there, how long do i need to wai

[steel shoal]

Sooo long

[tacit comet]

you'll get a notification when it hatches

if it's your first whale egg

[stone orbit]

what if i put the tank on the top floor, so when robin sleeps on the bottom floor she can look up at the beautiful fishies

[tacit comet]

then it would be fancy

you can't see through alien containment floors though

lol

[stone orbit]

damn

guess robin has to look down on it

[left marsh]

You could change it to a large toom tho..

See it from the side.

[stone orbit]

okay now im gonna need to harvest seeds from the glow whale's favorite biome

to make my whale feel at home

and fish too

i need to get that one patrick star looking fish that's stuck in an infinite spin

i can smell sounds and hear colors

[tacit comet]

ah yes

lily paddler is very goofy

messes up your depth and beacons too

[cerulean musk]

i love the wildlife interactions in this game

[tacit comet]

they're very cool

[cerulean musk]

like the amount of different things killing eachother all the time is so nice to see

makes it feel real

[tacit comet]

yup

have you gone to Arctic Spires yet?

[left marsh]

And its always nicw to see less of those GODAMN CRYPTOSUCHUS

So loud it’s painful now.

[cerulean musk]

yeah done a few playthroughs

[tacit comet]

ah ok

[cerulean musk]

yeah hate those

[cerulean musk]

in early access they were even louder

[tacit comet]

It's really cool seeing the ||Ice Worm eating the Snow Stalkers|| I kinda feel bad for them. :(

[steel shoal]

I hate how sometimes I'm the cause of their death 💔

[cerulean musk]

also feel bad for the lilypaddler being eaten by the spikey traps

[steel shoal]

I be driving around in my Snowfox, getting them all angry, and because they're jumping around the Worm kinda

blehhh

[cerulean musk]

ever "tamed" a snow stalker?

[steel shoal]

Not yet

[cerulean musk]

also how did marg get a ||snowstalker up and down from her seabase||

i know they can swim but still

[steel shoal]

It grabs her Prawn suit

[cerulean musk]

oooh yeah that adds up

[tacit comet]

Does it actually say that though, Andy?

[steel shoal]

No, it was just a theory

[tacit comet]

I mean, I believe in Preston's swimming skills

He's an independent little goober

[cerulean musk]

also she never talk about getting preston

like when and how that happend right?

[tacit comet]

I think she might a bit

[steel shoal]

She changed the topic, I think it was scared of her

[tacit comet]

not 100% sure.

[steel shoal]

Robin asks

[cerulean musk]

makes sense, she likked a reaper with nothing but a knife

[steel shoal]

I think it was a metal thingy

A piece of jagged metal

[tacit comet]

yup

[cerulean musk]

oh yeah right but still no stasis no prawn

just marg

[steel shoal]

She is quite small, and it was busy destroying the base

Leviathans are quite defenseless

[cerulean musk]

in-lore yeah

[tacit comet]

and in game :(

#buffleviathans

[tribal grove]

The reapers didn't look to have much armor. She probably could have gutted it all the way down with something sharp enough...

[wise bone]

i hope the next game has more defensive leviathans

[tacit comet]

same

or just ones that people don't try to kill

i think the levis are fine, it's just the playerbase

[cerulean musk]

nah its strong ingame compared to lore, a normal woman with a piece of scrap metal can kill one and we need like a bajilliion knife swings, in stasis to kill it

[tacit comet]

but people kill it easily.

and Marg is *not * a "normal woman" lol.

[cerulean musk]

ahaha true

[tribal grove]

Anyone else like grinding to build big seabases?

[tacit comet]

yes

[west mountain]

Sure why not.

[tacit comet]

many peoples

[west mountain]

I have 26 bases, some small some very big.

[tacit thorn]

Like? No.
Doing it? Yes.

[tribal grove]

Anyone have photos of their big ones?

[tacit thorn]

maybe

[west mountain]

Check awesome-bases, there many people have posted images.

[tribal grove]

I'm working on one now...

[tacit thorn]

pic pretty blurry, you can use steam F12 for better pics.

[tribal grove]

I have 96 wall lockers in each of the two tall towers, so 192 in all. Ores are in one tower and minerals are in the other...

[worn plinth]

ive found an ice wall that says to use a lazer cutter on it but my lazer cutter isnt working on it?

[cerulean musk]

other side

[fervent bloom]

You might need to be on the other side for it to work.

[worn plinth]

damn okay im stupid thank you both

[fervent bloom]

To be fair, it's not obvious, nor is it necessarily logical.

[vernal lotus]

Bruh when I first played I thought it was a bug and restarted my game several times 😂

[worn plinth]

yeah true tbf i think i know where the other side of it is so ill jus make my way there 🤣

[cerulean iris]

what in the unholy-

[tender bough]

you can grapple onto fish and it is so funny

[cerulean iris]

And you can grapple leviathans. Lobster fish shall not escape.

[sweet arrow]

Yes, quite

My favorite thing in subnautica was grabbing the worms that steal power and smacking them into the sea dragon leviathan

[chrome cedar]

You say that like it’s a bad thing?

[tribal grove]

Nah, was asking to see if anyone else likes it like I do.

[chrome cedar]

Search my name plus ‘has image’ in awesome bases. I’ve posts more than a few there. LoL

[broken badge]

Subnautica: Below Zero Map | Map Genie

https://mapgenie.io/subnautica-below-zero/maps/world

About the closest thing I could give you would be a link to this map which you can decide to use or not. I suggest turning off a lot of the markers, because otherwise it can be incredibly cluttered or spoilerish if you leave everything marked

[cerulean musk]

nope cut content from early access

[eternal garnet]

on steam, you can still play this old storyline. The very end is missing tho

[cerulean musk]

do fish breed in the aquarium module?

[bold monolith]

No, but they're sucked in from outside.

[slate valley]

i have been stuck at the ||margeruite story line where you meet her at the green house and you read the pda entries, can anyone give me like a tip? Ive been at the phi excavation side but i found nothing there ||

censored because of spoilers

[bold monolith]

Did you find a map at Phi?

[chrome cedar]

After the ||greenhouse|| her storyline is done. Or are you having problems finding the ||greenhouse||?

[slate valley]

no finding the kind of || site ghey were talking about with the pda entrirs||

[slate valley]

no i did not

[chrome cedar]

That’s probably the ||Omega Lab|| I think? The map you want is on the wall at ||the Delta Station|| base, you can scan it to refer to it later.

[slate valley]

will you get a marker or something?

or ltr a map

[chrome cedar]

It’s just a map, no beacons will guide you, you need to locate it by exploring the general area. You may want to carry an extra beacon to leave behind if you want to mark the spot. ||Delta and Phi|| are the only two bases that have existing beacons.

[slate valley]

good to know thanks

ill try it when i get home

[bold monolith]

I was talking about the sketched map at Phi.

Not Delta.

[slate valley]

oh ok

[stone orbit]

another day, another few hours on alien water minecraft subnautica

[slate valley]

another day another session of artic on steroid below zero

[stone orbit]

arctic peeper❌

peeper premium✅

[stone orbit]

i just realized arctic peepers have four jaws whilst regular peepers have 2

[stuck axle]

||nobody told me there were gonna be snow stalkers in the phi area!!!!||

i was supposed to bring my prawn,,,

[steel shoal]

Regular peepers have 4 too

[steel shoal]

Flares scare them away, and the snowfox is faster than them.

[stuck axle]

Dude where is ||magnetite????||

I've went to almost every biome and i still haven't found it

I'm at the ||cotton anemone|| area right now

and i can find none

[steel shoal]

I found a lot of it in the shiny crystal place

[clever crow]

tons of magnetite in veins on the surface

phi robotics cave has plenty

[next current]

Build a mineral detector or a scanner room! It's what they're made for!

[stone orbit]

just bring the funny purple fruit

[stuck axle]

I'm literally there

[stuck axle]

preston?

||also how do you get snow stalker fur||

[steel shoal]

Spy penglings are pretty cute

[stuck axle]

oh wait i literally killed the ||snow stalker|| 😭

i thought if i killed it, it'd let me collect its fur with a knife

damnit

poor thing

[stuck axle]

I'm either having insanely bad luck or my game's bugged

there's none there for me

[unique jacinth]

Go to it's den-

[plush fjord]

#🐞bug-smash message

Anyone know how this happened

I’m very curious

[rugged birch]

Nope I don’t know it just happened and it happened a couple minutes after I built the prawn and I hadn’t saved at all since I started playing that day

[stuck axle]

and where's that

[unique jacinth]

Beyond phi robotics just go up the mountain part and go right to a lake and you should be able to find some if anything look up a tutorial for it/get a robot penguin

[stuck axle]

yeah but first

magnetite

[clever crow]

bro still didn't get magnetite🥺

[plush fjord]

You can find some behind phi

In a vein

[stuck axle]

I'll go check it out

[plush fjord]

Use the mineral detector

[thin temple]

I'm waiting for the Below Zero multiplayer mod to be public before I play the game, its always better with friends fr fr

[stuck axle]

how do you even use it though

it just says "scanning..."

[unique jacinth]

It has those things near it uh follow circles on screen telling you directions or something

[plush fjord]

You press whatever button to cycle to whatever you want to find then if that object is in the vicinity I will put a "ping" on it's screen

[stuck axle]

Noted
thanks

[plush fjord]

Try it with a piece of titanium to see what I mean

Or whatever material you have on hand

[stuck axle]

I always used it on outcrops 💀

[plush fjord]

I do too

[thin temple]

Can I eat the ice worm

[clever crow]

too frozen(

[steel stream]

Prepare for a very, very long wait...

[thin temple]

Ok

How long approximately lol

[unique jacinth]

Long time

[plush fjord]

Bad idea

[steel stream]

Approximately...forever

[thin temple]

Yeah I got time.

There's a mod out rn, if I get impatient I can just buy early access 🤷‍♂️

[stuck axle]

Where do you place this

also finally got magnetite holy hell

[cerulean musk]

land

[stuck axle]

but the land is so uneven

how

do you mean foundation?

[steel stream]

Dry land

[stuck axle]

oh

[steel stream]

If that's the hoverpad

[carmine bobcat]

snow

[stuck axle]

can't place it here either

[carmine bobcat]

Think subnautica with pistols

[steel stream]

Not floating ice sheets, proper land

[unique jacinth]

Place it by phi where you'll use it most anyway

[carmine bobcat]

bruh...?

[unique jacinth]

Glacial bay I think

Is also a place

[fervent bloom]

There are also icebergs in the West Arctic...

[steel stream]

Also the hoverpad doesn't need power source

[stuck axle]

oh ok

[carmine bobcat]

maybe... if you play Natural Selection you know more about subnautica.

[unique jacinth]

I know

[stuck axle]

but is that pad where i also build it?

[steel stream]

Even though it charges and repairs the snowfox

[unique jacinth]

Yes

[stuck axle]

Got it
thanks

does it hover over water?

[fervent bloom]

It's another location for a Snowfox hoverpad, though.

[stuck axle]

i don't know everything about the game lol

[steel stream]

No

[carmine bobcat]

u just buyed it?

[stuck axle]

a few weeks ago, and I've mostly been playing without guides

except for stuff like rebreather and maidas base

[carmine bobcat]

i play creative : ). I'm scared of survival : ))

[stuck axle]

I've beaten subnautica and I'll beat below zero too

[carmine bobcat]

below zero is easier

[stuck axle]

idk the seatruck makes the game so slow

[carmine bobcat]

a

[stuck axle]

okay i do NOT like how this snowfox controls

there's a way to tame snow stalkers?

[steel stream]

More like way to scare them and another way to calm them down for a while

First one is ||holding a flare|| and the second is ||preston's delight (fruit from preston's plant||

[stuck axle]

Ah

[stuck axle]

where do you find that plant

[steel stream]

||marquerit's greenhouse, after you do what she asks for||

[stuck axle]

i have to go all the way back there???

Hell nah, leave it
i got more important stuff

[steel stream]

Have you already been there?

[stuck axle]

yeah

a while ago

||already been there||

[steel stream]

Did you read both pdas there? If yes, why didn't you take the plant? Or are you playing without hunger so you don't care about the best food in the game?

[stuck axle]

||i literally visited it after disabling the comm tower||

[stuck axle]

Idk I didn't think the plant was important, and i read both PDAs

[steel stream]

Not glacial bay, ||east arctic||

[steel stream]

The pda talking about salad unlocks an interesting food recipe...

[stuck axle]

i have that yeah

too bad i don't have the leaf

[steel stream]

That's why you should have taken fruits to grow on your base...

[stuck axle]

womp womp for me i guess

[steel stream]

Glacial bay is like the most western side of the map. The ||greenhouse is on the eastern border of the map, on top of an iceberg||

Oh wait, I mixed glacial bay and glacial basin

Why do these names have to be so similar...

Well, according to wiki, glacial bay is between glacial basin and arctic spires, so still on the western part of the map

I think this early access map is no longer valid (although most of it seems same as the current version)

Yes, northeast from lilypads, but earlier you wrote northwest...

[eternal garnet]

second map: north and west are all wrong. old map

[carmine bobcat]

where did you take " alterra map " ?

[cerulean musk]

delta station

[broken badge]

While early on in the Subnautica development, the devs decided not to make “violent” video games (like NS2) anymore because of the Sandy Hooks school shooting. This is why there are no outright offensive weaponry in the games.

I’m pretty sure the reference to the Obraxis Prime Massacre (which we certainly do have a dev named Obraxis) is meant to give a sort of in-game, lore-based reason as to why there aren’t “weapons” in Subnautica

[left marsh]

So obraxis didnt do it? 😞

[broken badge]

Obraxis Prime is the name of the place, not who did the massacre

[left marsh]

Yeah i know. Why did they name the massacre that though? Was it ever explained or nah?

[broken badge]

Idk, why not?

[plush fjord]

Because Obraxis is a cool guy

[carmine bobcat]

people says that subnautica is better than BZ... but ( my opinion ) BZ is better that subnautica.

[plush fjord]

My opinion is the correct opinion and everyone needs to agree with me

[deep kettle]

That's a very opiniated opinion.

Both games do focus on different aspects as well though.

[plush fjord]

I like both but personally prefer Subnautica

[broken badge]

They’re both great games, for their own different reasons

[carmine bobcat]

subnautica 3 will start as the end of below zero.

[plush fjord]

Probably not

[broken badge]

We don’t know anything about the next game, including things such as what it’ll be based around or where it’ll take place

[carmine bobcat]

||bruh at the end of BZ we can barely see another phasegate||

dont kill me for the spoiler

[broken badge]

That still doesn’t mean the next game will follow that storyline
Maybe one day we’ll find out what happened but the next installment may be something completely different, given BZ was an expansion rather than a full Subnautica universe game (of sorts). And I’m pretty sure the game they’re working on is another full game in the Subnautica universe, so we’ll just have to wait and see what it’s about

[plush fjord]

Natural selection 3 confermed

[carmine bobcat]

BRUH

[cerulean musk]

personally i always think of BZ as a spinoff and not a sequel

[broken badge]

It won’t be a NS game because they’re not going to make violent type games anymore, they said so

[plush fjord]

I know it was a joke

[broken badge]

I know, but some people might not have gotten the joke

[plush fjord]

Ohh

[cerulean musk]

sleeper module is deep purple vents right

[carmine bobcat]

i hate prawn

[rare owl]

pretty sure

[broken badge]

I don’t really like it either, but I use it a lot more in BZ than in Subnautica

Although I don’t really use it on land

[slow axle]

2

And I hope it follows the story of Riley, or js has him in it

Guys what is the big red fish called

The reaper knockoff basically

[broken badge]

Cheli?

[slow axle]

Yes

How do you spell it

Nvm

[broken badge]

Chelicerate

[left marsh]

Scan it and find out

[carmine bobcat]

we can see alterra hq

[carmine bobcat]

yep

[fervent bloom]

@silver olive , there are many more edible wild plant options in Below Zero, including some good ones near the Drop Pod. Additionally, there's a vegan food source that you can get later in the game that is absolutely fantastic and does not spoil.

[silver olive]

like the salad

[fervent bloom]

Yes, exactly.

[carmine bobcat]

I WANTED LIFEPOD NO DROP POD

[lofty pasture]

YES!!

the HABITAT BUILDER!

where should I buld my first basE?

*build

[west mountain]

To make it simple stay around your drop pod. Later in the game you can go crazy with bases and locations for the game play its save to stay where you are

[wise bone]

grassy plateaus is always a nice spot

[vernal lotus]

This is bz

[left marsh]

I think youre a bit confused maddy

[lofty pasture]

wrong channel girl

[lofty pasture]

huh

alright! I might even make it on an ice floe

[left marsh]

Lilypads is a cool place so ive heard

[wise bone]

LMAO i just woke up shush

[opaque vigil]

hey i found fish and pengling in my seatruck Aquarium even tho i didnt do that how come this happened

[left marsh]

Tho i did in putple vents and that was a good area too

[lofty pasture]

there's a lot of squidsharks there tho

[west mountain]

It gathers everything automatically

[opaque vigil]

ohh

[fervent bloom]

The Seatruck aquarium module automatically captures small animals from the environment.

[wise bone]

in BZ the lilypads is a nice spot yas

[opaque vigil]

thats really cool

the game keeps surprising me lol

[fervent bloom]

Have you ever posted it here?

[lofty pasture]

alright i guess i'll stay in the twisty bridges for now

[left marsh]

Wan’t a base worth mentioning really.

And was a hardcore run which i ended up dying in before completing

[lofty pasture]

😭

[west mountain]

Thats why I dont play hardcore, too frustrating

[opaque vigil]

any tips on the seatruck modules i just built them all now and i dont know if its safe to move with them all together lol if they get destroyed i lose everything in them right

[left marsh]

Really? I kinda like the one life thing.

Makes me feel more immersed and actually gets me to react to certain creatures.

[fervent bloom]

It's hard to destroy them, because creatures typically do damage only to the main cabin.

[west mountain]

Usually they dont get destroyed at all, except you bumpt into yourself with the seatruck

[left marsh]

Ram with seatruck

Afterburner does a ton of dmg

[fervent bloom]

If you don't want to damage them, piloting them into the Seatruck rather than the other way around to attach them is the better strategy.

[opaque vigil]

ohh thats nice to hear cuz i touched them with my sea truck and it did like 30dmg is said well a creature will destroy them in one blow lol

[left marsh]

Tbh modules wont break easily

[opaque vigil]

so thats cool i dont have to worry about this

[left marsh]

Repair.them anyway

[opaque vigil]

and is it a good idea to build more than one storage module i think its not enough but idk

[left marsh]

Yes. Most certainly is.

[opaque vigil]

nicee i am excited ill go play now lol thanks for the answers

[left marsh]

No worries. Ask questions here anytime and people will help you. Just be careful of spoilers!

[opaque vigil]

yea for sure wouldnt like to be spoiled so ill be careful

[steel stream]

Note that the more modules you attach, the slower your seatruck will be

[old magnet]

I almost beat subnautica on hard-core but I got stuck and forgot there was an unstuck option so I starved

Anyways I finally found spiral plants

[left marsh]

A pardon for that much debt? No. Alterra is a mega-corp.

[old magnet]

I can't find architect stuff

[old magnet]

I remember hearing this game was only 8 hours long I'm nine hours in and just got mk2 depth upgrade for the seat ruck

[steel shoal]

The game is not 8 hours long

It's closer to 30 or 40

[tacit thorn]

The quest for "unholy" is in progress. I can confirm that at 6k deep there is no hell in sight.

[eager nebula]

All the salt the water filtration thing gives you what can you make with salt

That's useful I should add

[fervent bloom]

It's part of hydrochloric acid, but you can also use it to make water purification tablets and significantly increase your yield, if you have access to snowballs.

[eager nebula]

Oh ok thank you

[tacit thorn]

salted fish for storage.

[old magnet]

These leviathans are kinda boring

They look cool but there's like barely any of them

[fervent bloom]

Why doesn't it make them more interesting to have them be less abundant?

[old magnet]

Because if they're rarely seen what's the point of them

[fervent bloom]

There aren't many ||shadow leviathans||, but I wouldn't say they're encountered rarely...

[tacit comet]

You should encounters Levi’s fairly often, but not all the time

[tacit thorn]

there s enough of them to make them annoying

[tacit comet]

No

They’re very friendly, they’re incredibly respectful and caring

[steel shoal]

Only Reapers were abundant in SN, and they felt less special for it.

[steel shoal]

This is the wrong chat, and that is also a very well known bug...

[tender bough]

oh

[steel shoal]

Going through arches in a Prawn will freeze your stats.

[tender bough]

forever?

[steel shoal]

Until you die/reload the game

[tender bough]

yipe

[tender bough]

why di they not fix it ?

[steel shoal]

They're working on the next game.

[tender bough]

ok fair enough

[steel shoal]

Also, I don't think it's a very high-priority bug. They could instead fix the more important bugs, like lava projectiles and warpers dealing hundreds of damage, Cyclops colisions, etc.

[tender bough]

i like the bug

[steel shoal]

BZ also has its own share of big bugs. I don't like the way Ice Worm messes with my Snowfox. It also clips through the ground sometimes.

[tender bough]

funny

[fervent bloom]

Is it supposed to knock the player off?

[steel shoal]

It's listed as a bug, in the wiki

It does seem like one

[fervent bloom]

To be fair, it isn't exactly unreasonable for a 95-meter leviathan bursting out of the snow to make one fall off their hoverbike....

[steel shoal]

The interactions are really weird though

The barrel rolls, and then receiving 0 damage...

[fervent bloom]

I haven't experienced a barrel roll except when cliffs or ledges are involved.

[steel shoal]

Stalkers cause a ton

[fervent bloom]

Are you riding over stalkers?

[steel shoal]

No, but they keep jumping on me

[fervent bloom]

I like that snow stalkers generally maul the Snowfox instead of Robin when they attack.

[steel shoal]

yes, but I often get stuck in terrain

[fervent bloom]

Luckily, that's never happened to me while I'm on it...

[steel shoal]

Sometimes they send me to walls, and then I get stuck on random quartz pieces/rocks

It takes a bit for it to get back up, and they deal a lot of damage to it

[old magnet]

I never encountered reapers

[steel shoal]

Well, then I don't know what do you mean by "there's like barely any of them"

They are much more present than SN leviathans, excluding the reapers

[fathom oar]

i had a question

when we shut down the tower in below zero

for marguerit and she tells us to come to her base and then we go there

what happens after that

i mean there was a lot to scan there but after that are we done with her

[steel stream]

You continue with other story goals

[fathom oar]

yea i completed the story

but she didnt even say gbye or smth

[steel stream]

You can go to her base after that and enter the last room

[fathom oar]

yea i did that too

there was just shower or smth there

we came for robin and didnt even care about robin 😭

[steel stream]

Well she gives you some info about Sam (Robin is the player), there's a pda in the greenhouse

[fathom oar]

who tf reads pda 😭

or listens

[steel stream]

Anyone who wants to know what the game is about...

[fathom oar]

it was smth about mining

didnt really tell what happened to her

[steel stream]

There would be lot less questions here if people read or listen to pda more...

[fathom oar]

heh

[steel shoal]

"If you really want to know, there's a PDA on that bench that can point you in the right direction"

When you have NPCs telling you to read the PDA, maybe it's a sign that you should. BZ is not just a survival game, it includes uncovering a mystery, and unfortunately many people never get to do it. You don't need to read it like a book, most important entries have really high quality voice-overs

[stuck axle]

i think I'm prepared to get the artifacts

I've upgraded my seatruck to max, i have prawn depth mk2, I've stacked up on resources

[steel shoal]

Nice, good luck looking for them

[stuck axle]

i still haven't found the afterburner fragments though

[steel shoal]

Lilypads Crevice has a bunch of seamonkey nests

Take a look

[stuck axle]

Already did
Didn't find much

One more thing i need to do before finding the artifacts is

repairing a bridge? what?

what bridge

[steel shoal]

Have you visited Phi?

[stuck axle]

Yeah, i went to the excavation site and ||cured the leviathan|| too

but I haven't seen a bridge

[steel shoal]

Once you get to the island, before the landing pad, there's a really big bridge

[unique jacinth]

Bay area

[steel shoal]

It's hard to miss, you probably noticed it but then forgot

[stuck axle]

I'll go check it out

how do you fix it

[steel shoal]

It's pretty obvious

It also has a panel explaining

[stuck axle]

oh yeah, the tool

right

[steel shoal]

Bring your Seatruck fabricator module

[stuck axle]

I'm bringing my prawn

[steel shoal]

Well that's not going to be of very use

[stuck axle]

oh

[steel shoal]

Unless you're bringing it in the seatruck

[unique jacinth]

It actually can if you have a drill if we are talking about spires

[stuck axle]

what's the fabricator useful for

[steel shoal]

The Prawn will have difficulty getting to the island, and you will need to fabricate stuff

If you have it docked on your Seatruck, then yes, it'll be very good

[stuck axle]

time to go search for more lead,,,, ugh...

One of the worst resources to find because of pure annoying luck

[steel shoal]

You can't get 3 titanium in a row

It's not 100% RNG

[stuck axle]

Yeah but the outcrop isn't as common

[steel shoal]

It strangely is

[stuck axle]

Not for me

[steel shoal]

Nah, it is very common. It's just hard to spot.

Same with Nickel

[stuck axle]

nickel is easy

[steel shoal]

Deeper areas of Twisty Bridges, surface of Thermal Wastes, and in the shiny purple place

[stuck axle]

i can recognize it by the shape

[steel shoal]

That's where lead is not just common, it's abundant

[unique jacinth]

I have before I'm almost 100% sure

[steel shoal]

There is a really really small chance for it, I think, but most of the times you'll get 2 of each or alternating

[stuck axle]

this outcrop is so annoying to FIND holy hell

[unique jacinth]

I keep getting it multiple times in a row I think I might've gotten 4-5 in a row at some point and I wouldn't be surprised

[stuck axle]

i found a cave with a bunch of galena, sweet

[steel shoal]

Now that isn't possible

[stuck axle]

time to make the fabricator

what's uraininite even used for?

[steel shoal]

Nuclear power

[unique jacinth]

Power later on

[stuck axle]

Bet

where do you make the fabricator module

I can't see it anywhere, not even in the dock upgrade console

[steel shoal]

It's in the mobile vehicle bay

[stuck axle]

forgot that exists

wait it's a separate thing??

how do i attach it

[unique jacinth]

Pilot it

[steel shoal]

The back of the seatruck has magnets

[unique jacinth]

Into truck

[steel shoal]

It'll connect, allowing you to have a slightly longer Seatruck

With space to walk around

If you die, you will respawn in the truck

[stuck axle]

it attached!!

[steel shoal]

There's also a door on the back, allows you to enter from behind

[stuck axle]

sweet, now do i go to the bridge

[unique jacinth]

It actually needs no modules to do that

[stuck axle]

dude it's a portable fabricator!!! holy

this is gonna be so good

[unique jacinth]

There's a storage one too

[steel shoal]

I think it only allows you to spawn on an empty truck if you've detached the modules

Not sure

[stuck axle]

time to go to the bridge

[steel shoal]

You can have an unlimited amount of attached modules, although having too many will slow you down

[stuck axle]

insane

[unique jacinth]

I do 2 trucks with 3 modules

[steel shoal]

I have one and swap modules around

[stuck axle]

okay so for the bridge

i see 2 caves, one with glowing stones and the other just leads to the pad

where do i go

oh i found it

fixed it! wonder where it'll take me

what the hell was that!?!? a leviathan???

oh I'm TOTALLY lost

[steel stream]

You will respawn in the seatruck cabin even without modules. Even if you haven't unlocked any modules. That's also a way to get inside the seatruck cabin standing, not piloting it.

[stuck axle]

i got the architect without dying oh my god

the last architect is the organs

wonder where i can find those...

oh...

oh no

the ||crystal caves||

there's a literal ||shadow leviathan|| there

[stone orbit]

im confused

are the ||architects native to 4546B or not? we escape with al an and enter a phasegate and seem to end up in a massive architect civilization elsewhere||

[clever crow]

||not native. they came to 4546 because they suspected some wildlife could be immune and built research facilities there||

[carmine bobcat]

||the phasegate will conduct you to another universe.||

||the architects universe... imagine if there's aurora and they want to study the Aurora XD||

[steel shoal]

It's not a different Universe, just a different place

[stuck axle]

i got attacked by the leviathans atleast 5 times and i kept hiding each time to repair my seatruck 😭😭😭

[steel shoal]

Letting go of the controls will make them stop attacking you

[stuck axle]

How?

isn't there some sort of attack i can do to let them go away?

[steel shoal]

Perimeter Defense System?

[stuck axle]

What's that

[steel shoal]

Maybe, but letting of the controls works really well too

[steel shoal]

Seamoth zap

[stuck axle]

When I'm in a seamoth?

seatruck*

[steel shoal]

There's a Seatruck one too, but you'll get it later

[stuck axle]

Ok so

When I'm in a seatruck and they start charging at me

do i just...stop moving?

[steel shoal]

No

I don't know what's the button to stop piloting

On Playstation it's circle

[stuck axle]

Yeah

[steel shoal]

Robin will stand up

[stuck axle]

Mhm

And that stops them from chasing me?

[steel shoal]

Yes, they'll just pretend you're not there

[stuck axle]

But it's annoying regardless cause I'll have to move

[steel shoal]

Helps a bunch. You can also safely leave your truck in dangerous waters without having to worry about fish attacking it

[stuck axle]

Wouldn't that make you extremely vulnerable to the leviathans

[steel shoal]

Robin, yes. Seatruck, no.

[stuck axle]

Ohhh wait
when leviathans charge at you, you're supposed to be sitting for the small attack cutscene to happen
but since you're standing, the game just thinks you aren't there?

[steel shoal]

More like, creatures only attack the seatruck if you're currently piloting

[stuck axle]

Basically

So when they chase me i just press cancel pilot

[steel shoal]

Pretty much

[stuck axle]

Easy win for me

[steel shoal]

But sometimes, it's not easy

[stuck axle]

why's that

[steel shoal]

Some leviathans are really fast

And appear out of nowhere

[stuck axle]

True

But if you hear the attack roar just immediately let go

[steel shoal]

Yes

Seatruck is very very safe

[stuck axle]

bruuhhhh

||there's a fabrication facility at the bottom...||

[steel shoal]

The prawn works differently. If you're not piloting, they won't target it. But if they initiate an attack, even if you leave, they will attack it.

[stuck axle]

I just went back up bro 😭

Come the hell on

where do you find root pustule

[steel shoal]

Kelp caves

[stuck axle]

That's it? that's so easy

they're near you

[steel shoal]

They're very good biofuel

[fervent bloom]

Sea monkeys can bring them, right, but only after you can pin a recipe that uses them?

[steel shoal]

I'm not sure if that's in their loot pool

They can't bring every material

[fervent bloom]

What about ||ion cubes||? I know that's a long shot...

[steel shoal]

I'm almost sure they don't

[fervent bloom]

Where do you think they find diamonds, anyway?

[steel shoal]

I think underwater

[fervent bloom]

Yes, but I don't think they swim down to the ||Deep Twisty Bridges||...

[stuck axle]

time to find the base 🫡
wish me luck guys

I'm gonna be taking my prawn

[steel shoal]

Seatruck is safer

But good luck

[stuck axle]

||i built the body, time to go to the phasegate||

||I haven't been damaged....YET.||

[stuck axle]

Drill arm:

[steel shoal]

What does it do, other than drilling deposits?

[stuck axle]

There it is...

[stuck axle]

You can use it to kill enemies

[steel shoal]

Which enemies are we talking about?

[gilded glade]

I took my prawn and it got stuck in the seabase

Hope they fix the architect structures in SN3/2

[stuck axle]

GGs 💪

man, that was so much fun! i think I didn't die a single time

Can't wait for what the next game has in store
||the area looked so cool in the ending sequence||

[stuck axle]

That sucks

[cerulean musk]

im making a big aquarium with 1 of each fish, what eggs are there?

[plush fjord]

Scrambled, fried, raw?

[stuck axle]

Haha

[left marsh]

*fried

[cerulean musk]

do lilypaddlers have eggs?

[fervent bloom]

They do, but there are only seven total. Don't forget to get a squidshark and a glow whale...

[plush fjord]

[cerulean musk]

where where and where

[fervent bloom]

Lily paddler eggs are found in the ||Lilypads Crevice||; glow whale eggs are in the islands above. Squidshark eggs are located in the ||Deep Lilypads Cave||.

[sonic forge]

ohhh i didn't find a squidshark egg yet either

[plush fjord]

Didn't even know they had eggs

[sonic forge]

im missing three then, squidshark pengwing and pinnacarid

[cerulean musk]

oh yeah where do those spawn? (pnnacarid)

[cerulean musk]

also is ||Deep lilypads cave|| the ones with the floweroil?

[steel shoal]

Pengwing eggs are rare

[sonic forge]

arctic kelp

[cerulean musk]

they dont have eggs do they?

[sonic forge]

they do

[cerulean musk]

wat

[steel shoal]

They're pretty cute

They're found in icebergs

[cerulean musk]

like titanholefish?

[steel shoal]

Not really

They're above water

[steel shoal]

Very well hidden, both in East and Western icebergs

[sonic forge]

don't pengwings need air? is it ok to put them in an aquarium/containment?

[steel shoal]

They don't need air

[cerulean musk]

oh yeah thats weird

[steel shoal]

You can put them in Aquarium modules too

[cerulean musk]

glow whale eggs are HUGE

[cerulean musk]

on icebergs or ice "flakes"

[steel shoal]

They're large and have thermal lillies at the top

[cerulean musk]

when fish breed do they lay eggs or does another just spawn?

[steel shoal]

Depends

Small fish (1x1) just appear

All others lay eggs (including Pengwings and Sea Monkeys)

The baby needs to grow into an adult though

[cerulean musk]

so 2 wild penwings wouldnt maka a egg

[steel shoal]

You can't pick them up

Wild Penglings can be put in ACUs, though. They'll eventually grow up, and only then start laying eggs

[gilded glade]

I wish you could tame critters ngl

Like I want to ride a glow whale and control it

[carmine bobcat]

i found one of them

[steel shoal]

@fading lily Why do you think that BZ fragments aren't as intuitive?

[cerulean musk]

finally got 1 of every BZ egg plus all 6 cuddlefish

[mellow geode]

cuddlefish? did you mean trivalves

[cerulean musk]

yeah those guys

[mellow geode]

they're hidden, just like the cuddlefish in sn

[cerulean musk]

the blue trivalves are nearly impossible to get normally

[wise bone]

the jellyfish have eggs? this is the best news ever

[cerulean musk]

in the under water ice tunnels towards the glacial basin

[mellow geode]

i'm not a big fan of bz either, but i understand that the devs were going in a different direction vs how they made sn. overall, the bz map is smaller than sn as well, so there's a lot less places to put fragments for you to discover. sn had the premise of the aurora exploding so there are a lot of wrecks scattered around the map, but that's not the case with bz.

[wise bone]

will be collecting them immediately

[cerulean musk]

also playing BZ without picking up Alan at all is really enjoyable

[wise bone]

shadow leviathan is the only one out of both games that still scares me after playing a few times 🫡

[steel shoal]

Spy Pengling is necessary.

[mellow geode]

don't recall spy pengling being central to plot advancement tbh.

[steel shoal]

Yes, you chose not to finish the story

You chose

[wise bone]

the shrimp was so scary too until i realised it has worse aim than the reapers lol

[steel shoal]

When you get to 4546B, you have 1 thing in mind - find out what happened to Sam. People play BZ like it's another survival game, and finish it without knowing what happened.

[cerulean musk]

its kinda sad that alans storyline is the only needed to complete the game, but plays the worst in comparison to the alterra/sam storyline and Marg

[steel shoal]

Is it obvious?

Then what happened?

[cerulean musk]

yeah its hard to care when shes already dead by the first pda you read

[steel shoal]

Buys game
Isn't interested in it

[mellow geode]

and my main gripe about the storytelling for the game. we came down to the planet because we wanted to investigate sam's death. instead we ||get sidetracked by an old lady and help her avoid surveillance (which technically you don't need to do either), then we get stockholm syndrome for an alien that kidnapped our brains, help him build his body and finally elope with him. and sam's story? relegated to abandoned PDAs for us to piece together.||

[steel shoal]

But "why" is still a mistery

[wise bone]

no curiosity ?

[steel shoal]

Are you sure that's all?

[cerulean musk]

i legit cared more about freds livelyhood by the first of his pdas talking about his lost shipments

[mellow geode]

the problem was expecting bz to follow the same formula as sn. if you take away that expectation and play bz for what it is, it's not bad overall, albeit the storytelling needs more work.

[fathom oar]

ok

[wise bone]

I love Fred <3

[lofty pasture]

CUDDLEFISHES exist in BZ??

[steel shoal]

Subnautica isn't horror, and Below Zero is even less.

[eternal garnet]

Well, no, but a new pet that can also walk on land

[fathom oar]

integrating new pda data

[mellow geode]

trivalves, not cuddlefish.

[cerulean musk]

should be a npc like marg who will just drive around in his truck and wave while you pass

[lofty pasture]

oh!!

those carnivores who escape everytime i walk bye?

*by

[eternal garnet]

no. it's a pet not found in the wild

[mellow geode]

i remember playing up until launching the non-existent rocket, then the storyline got scrapped and rewrote entirely.

[lofty pasture]

huh

[eternal garnet]

You can only find eggs, hidden

[lofty pasture]

go play in filmic and then come back to me

[lofty pasture]

omg im so excited

[fathom oar]

bro didn't go to the back of aurora 😭

[mellow geode]

definitely not horror.

[steel shoal]

No, Subnautica is not a horror game. It has some horror aspects, like fear of the unknown, but it's not a true horror game.

[lofty pasture]

Y'ALL HAVE NOT tried filmic

[lofty pasture]

well yes but it's not completely free of horror

[fathom oar]

what u talking about its a fantasy exploring genshin impact based game

[steel shoal]

Filmic doesn't make it scarier, it makes it harder to see. And the back of the Aurora is literally just sand and Reapers, you get used to it.

[wise bone]

||I'm surprised you didn't like the maida and alan stuff, maida was my fav||

[wise bone]

I wish there was more to do with her throughout the game

[mellow geode]

she's right. sn isn't a horror game. a horror game would be like the resident evil series, or silent hill. sn feels like a horror game, but it's not designed to freak you out at every turn.

[mellow geode]

i'm not saying i didn't like them. i'm saying that the storytelling was subpar.

[cerulean musk]

yup, marg is def some of the best the game offers

[wise bone]

ah oki that's fair

[cerulean musk]

even if the satalite tower story is dumb

[mellow geode]

and i've been trying to educate people that thalassophobia isn't what they think it is.

[steel shoal]

Minecraft also induces fear in some parts. It's not a horror game, and so isn't Subnautica. Subnautica had some aspects, but Below Zero focused on the beauty and not the fear. Which is why there are no Reaper equivalents.

[wise bone]

I think I saw a video that Subnautica is more terror rather than horror

[cerulean musk]

played with sound on ever?

[mellow geode]

if you justify sn being a horror game because it triggers some particular phobias, then by that definition a lot of games should also be considered horror when they're not.

[eternal garnet]

It does though. Every night, if you don't have a house

[steel shoal]

Also the deep dark is quite scary

[worn plinth]

does anyone have a link to a good map? the one im using is impossible to read

[mellow geode]

mapgenie.io

[steel shoal]

I'm not scared of Subnautica. Your point is not very clear.

[cerulean musk]

you could go by the same logic in subnautica

[steel shoal]

Letting go of the controls in the Seatruck will make it so no fish hunts you.

[cerulean musk]

you legit could through, you'd just always stay in a base use scannerroom drones to explore and never go out at night ad imediately run when leviathan

[wise bone]

I wish they'd update subnauticamap.io for BZ

[mellow geode]

tbh, putting medically recognised phobias aside, if you don't have them and you complete either game at least once, things slowly become less and less terrifying.

[mellow geode]

just use mapgenie

[steel shoal]

Subnautica is not horror, it's only scary sometimes. It doesn't have a horror tag on Steam, does it?

[mellow geode]

you're confusing immersion with intent.

[wise bone]

I do but I don't like it as much

[cerulean musk]

it does

[steel shoal]

Strange

[cerulean musk]

those are very suggestive tho tbh

[wise bone]

Pretty sure the tags are what people put on there, not the devs

[steel shoal]

Dam, that stinks. People getting the wrong tags.

[wise bone]

Lol yeah, some games have insane tags

[cerulean musk]

your agruments lack reason and you dont seem to want to change opinion so argueing has no reason with you

[steel shoal]

"subnautica franchise was BUILT on fear" this is an opinion, not a fact.

[worn plinth]

its not considered a horror game

[cerulean musk]

user defined

[steel shoal]

Players put them, not the devs.

I could say the same to you

Ditto

[worn plinth]

yeah theyre just popular tags that have been assosiated with it, not the actual tag put there by devs

no it is not

[cerulean musk]

its a survival game, when surviving sometimes things can be scary, but a survival game is not nececarilly a horror game

[plush fjord]

user defined

[worn plinth]

it is a survival game thats only considered horror in the minds of people who have a fear of deep ocean and the unknown

those literally say popular user defined tags

[worn plinth]

thats by the people who find this game scary, not the people who made it, have you got a braincell homie?

[steel shoal]

Below Zero is fine. It's a gorgeous game, very fun. The story could be a bit better in some parts ||Maida is alive??||, but it's still great as it is. No need to follow the footsteps of the previous game.

[cerulean musk]

swear dodge

[worn plinth]

what people label a game based off of their own opinions does not automatically make a game exactly that?

only in opinion

to people who dont find this game scary and have no fear of the ocean see it as a survival game

[mellow geode]

except leviathans don't spontaneously spawn in next to you. they may spawn beyond your view distance and sneak up on you. and sure you can say it's jumpscares but once you've played enough, you learn to look/listen for clues when a leviathan is on the attack, and you can actually evade/avoid fairly easily.

having said that, one of the hallmarks of a horror survival game is that you're going up against monsters you have to defeat/kill, usually with several minibosses/bosses and final boss. sn and bz definitely do not fall into that category. yes, there are elements of the game that are designed to frighten you. but the aim of the game is vastly different. neither game requires you to face off against some monster final boss.

[steel shoal]

If you think Stasis Rifle and Knife were made to fight back, I think you're playing the wrong game

Cheesing the game by killing the wildlife was NOT intended

[plush fjord]

The first game wasn't intended to be a horror game either

[mellow geode]

inb4 "if we're not meant to kill them why do we have weapons?"

[steel shoal]

Only weapon in the game is the gas torpedo, and it's bad on purpose.

[mellow geode]

see also: "if we're not meant to kill them why do they have hp?"

[plush fjord]

Bad.

[steel shoal]

A tool

[plush fjord]

Bad.

[steel shoal]

A vehicle for gathering resources

You're abusing the game mechanics to kill the fish

[cerulean musk]

pretty bad as a weapon, surviveability yes, fighting no

cheezing is more of a nerd thing

[steel shoal]

I think it's for the instagib to work, I dunno

[plush fjord]

Leviathans were never intended to be killed

#below-zero-chat message

[steel shoal]

You need to read the PDA more... The tool is to allow you to escape threats.

[plush fjord]

Its isn't easy and the stasis rifle is so you can get away safely

[wise bone]

I do wish they didn't include the stasis rifle though

at least they removed it in BZ (I think)

[mellow geode]

like it or not, afaik the devs never intended for players to be going around on a killing spree. i agree with you, both games carry an element of suspense, fear and if you so insist, horror. but what we're trying to say is that those elements are not the main objective of either game. sn was about surviving after having crash landed on an alien planet and figuring out how to get yourself home. bz has a different story (or stories) driving the game. the existence of "monsters" in both games is to drive home the message that you're not at the top of the food chain, and you need to learn what to do in order to survive and achieve your goals.

[worn plinth]

you can choose to play subnautica and bz and not even play for the story, just build and enjoy the surface of the world, avoiding the fear, and scary part arent forced upon you in the game unless you choose to put yourself there? in actual horror games the aim is that youre forced to do things that are scary otherwise youd be stood idle in a corner not moving or progressing, its not a horror game as you can still do alot without having to put yourself through scary situations.

[plush fjord]

Literally the exact purpose

[steel shoal]

They did, but it's still in the Crashfish entry

[steel shoal]

Obby beloved ✨

You are intended to escape, not survive.

Is anyone else still having fun?

[wise bone]

surviving is just a requirement if you want to escape

[cerulean musk]

but you feeling fear in surviving is a you thing not a everyone thing

[mellow geode]

so it boils down to a difference in opinions then. you're free to think that both games fall into the survival horror category, just as others are free to think otherwise.

there's no point really in insisting either way.

[worn plinth]

homie mad cus he cant convince a whole discord server of somethin that aint true 👽

i think youre just bored man, get some sleep

[plush fjord]

The game is scary sometimes. It isn't a horror game

[worn plinth]

not really creative mode exists

[steel shoal]

Your thinking is flaweder

[clever crow]

i think this convo is really funny

[worn plinth]

so your logic is flawed i guess?

[cerulean musk]

i cant with you, you wont listen to our arguements and just spew the same sentence out every few seconds, please stop

[mellow geode]

i would like to take this opportunity to remind everyone of the server's rule #1: be kind and keep things polite.

[steel shoal]

Yea I was thinking the same, but if people want I can end it right here and now.

[rare nacelle]

Looks like somebody ran out of arguments

[mellow geode]

honestly posting the same image repeatedly doesn't change anything.

[lime grove]

other people may think it is a horror game, which is why they put the tag there

[plush fjord]

User defined

Key word USER

[lime grove]

you can press the + sign and see that other people put the tag there, not the devs

[worn plinth]

never said it was, i made it pretty clear it was an option to play without exploring and just building, can be done on creative mode aswell as survival, only survival you will have to explore, but if you dont want to and you just want to build and play creative then how is that a horror game?

[mellow geode]

i've tried to have a decent conversation haven't i?

[rare nacelle]

Somebody is mad that we point out facts

[clever crow]

don't be so serious (idk if you are, but you sound serious and it's a bit silly)

[worn plinth]

you just mad cus it makes sense?

[rare nacelle]

No offense, but you look like youre here just for attention

[fervent bloom]

Do you think the ice worm can ever enter the water, the way it's shown in some of the trailers and/or images?

[plush fjord]

@fading lily the filter evasion is what is getting your messages deleted

Then leave lmao