below-zero-chat

[left marsh]

I think mines a bit bugged

[storm crest]

do you have charge fins

[left marsh]

No

Never found the databox or frags somehow

[storm crest]

(its the former) oh

[graceful monolith]

Does below zero have vr?

[eternal garnet]

not without mods

[cerulean musk]

west side of delta island

or lilypads

[fluid flame]

delta island is kinda ugly imo

[eternal garnet]

there's big land north-west from delta

[cerulean musk]

yeah but underwater by the tree spires

craft one

[storm crest]

it will save you a lot of headaches

[fluid flame]

I wanted to make a base on lilypads but the lilypads dont look as nice as I expected and the whole place is kinda deep so idk

I'd like a base thats partially above and partially under water

[storm crest]

my base just so happened to be ||above the crystal biomes|| lol

[fluid flame]

idk how do u get to those and i think im glad i dont

[cerulean musk]

in the vents or lilypads?

[storm crest]

once im out of the cave ill give the distance and direction from the pod

[fluid flame]

ok now i know

[cerulean musk]

??? what

[storm crest]

also im lost in here again as usual

[fluid flame]

i now know that you get into the crystal biomes through purple vents/lilypads

[cerulean musk]

a

[storm crest]

almost out

[left marsh]

Man crystal caves is such a beautiful biome. Kinda annoying how making a base there isnt worth it cos of space and lack of resources

[storm crest]

and the err... local fauna

[fluid flame]

ha-ha...

[storm crest]

getting eaten by one as we speak

[steel shoal]

That's the best part, honestly

[left marsh]

Shadow leviathan is really pretty tho

I rly like the colours

[storm crest]

cave above crystal cave is roughly ||900m SE of the pod||

[steel shoal]

OST too, it's a really nice place

[left marsh]

OST?

Official sound trakc??

Nono read it

[fluid flame]

I do not need to know that i haven't even visited that ||woman|| yet

[left marsh]

It says place

[storm crest]

thats why i didnt have ping turned on

also ||its not related to that storyline||

nvm just got what you meant

oh no they multiplied

[fervent bloom]

If you have two of the same creature inside, they will breed until they reach the breeding capacity.

In other words, if you don't have any other animals in that tank, you'll eventually get 6 of them.

[storm crest]

i forgot about the purple vents local fauna

[cerulean musk]

the ||shrimp||?

[left marsh]

Cryptosuchus

Shrimp not too bad tbh

[cerulean musk]

shrimp are worse than the crocs

[fluid flame]

uhhh whaat??

[left marsh]

Nah theres only 1 and its not too aggressive

[storm crest]

the big shrimps 🙂

[storm crest]

i just saw two at the same time

[left marsh]

Wait ive only ever sen one at the vents. Ik theres another at the vent garden area tho

[fervent bloom]

I think they mean the chelicerate.

[cerulean musk]

one on the east by the icebergs and one in the vent gardens

[fervent bloom]

There are four of them in the game, plus three extras that spawn when you enter the ||World Edge||.

[storm crest]

i dont count them as shrimp

i count them as easter eggs

[left marsh]

Damn ik ive met them all but i aleays thought it was just one

[fluid flame]

yeah thats why there are 3 different emotions boiling in me right now

[cerulean musk]

expired shrimp

[storm crest]

lmao

[left marsh]

Void one is nasty looking. Looks like the sandwich that i found in a locker in school thats been tbere for a year

[cerulean musk]

yeah expired shrimp

[lusty mauve]

how would i scan the leviathans in this game? no status cannon do i just fight them like a true man

[left marsh]

Essentially yea

[steel shoal]

You don't fight them, you scan them like normal

Approach with the scanner and try not to get eaten

[left marsh]

The shrimp isnt very agile and the shadow is chill after its intial attack

[storm crest]

they dont eat you if youre above 70hp i think

[steel shoal]

Chelicerates deal 75 damage

[fluid flame]

just do some advanced manoeuvres around them

[left marsh]

Shadow should instakill u in my opinion cos the acid

[steel shoal]

I dunno about Shadows though

[fervent bloom]

You can scan any of them without hurting them, or any tools other than the scanner (the Seaglide can be helpful to catch up with them, as they're very fast). You can try getting it to chase you and take cover in a small area while scanning it as it tries to eat you, if you'd like.

[storm crest]

its having a moment

[eternal garnet]

I reported this bug, sadly it was not found

[fluid flame]

i think i just got spoilered but i dont even know what was spoilered to me

[eternal garnet]

just run past it

[left marsh]

Then its fine 😄

[fervent bloom]

||Shadow leviathans|| do 80 damage, I believe. I would need to experiment with this, but the wiki says that the chelicerate kills the player if they have 77% HP or below...

[storm crest]

dont go to the light

[cerulean musk]

||crazy thing is you can enter that room and bypass the gate without having allan||

[storm crest]

i always thought it was guaranteed instakill

[left marsh]

No thats sea drag from first game

I mean i think it instakills idk i always managed to dodge them

[fervent bloom]

I can confirm that this is not the case for either even without the reinforced dive suit.

[left marsh]

It should instakill.. it literally sprays acid on u tho

[storm crest]

didnt know there was a reinforced suit lol

[fervent bloom]

It reduces all damage by 50%, at the cost of significantly reduced speed.

[storm crest]

is there anything i should do before ||going through the portal?||

[left marsh]

Anything u want

Complete other 2 plots is good tho

Oh and make sure u save b4 going through

In case u ever wanna revisit the world

[eternal garnet]

not required, but ||cure a frozen guy?|| You can load your last save after

[storm crest]

im actually gonna go duplicate the save file

[fluid flame]

ok im leaving this channel before i accidentally spoil myself the entire game

[eternal garnet]

the save will not be deleted

[fluid flame]

bye bye

[left marsh]

Just dont read them, byr.

[fervent bloom]

After you go through the ||arch||, you can come back to the same game with no change.

[fluid flame]

i need to get some sleep anyway

[storm crest]

||thought he said you cant go back through it||

[eternal garnet]

not in this life, no

[fervent bloom]

You can't, but the game acts as if you never went through.

[storm crest]

do you keep your inventory or is it a full reset

[eternal garnet]

keep. it's a load game.

But you cannot go back. But there's no autosave, and you can't even save in there

[storm crest]

cant save?

[eternal garnet]

can't save in there

[storm crest]

oh so its short

[eternal garnet]

it's not very long

[storm crest]

i assume ||tether wont work||

[eternal garnet]

I hope that was tested lol. Don't try is my tip. Or break it, whatever

Can always load game

[fervent bloom]

That's actually a good question...

[storm crest]

guess ill find out

[steel shoal]

You don't bring your tools

[fervent bloom]

Do you keep anything else in your inventory?

[eternal garnet]

I never noticed that

[storm crest]

huh?

[eternal garnet]

I don't know, but I know your pet will follow

[steel shoal]

Nop

[storm crest]

theres pets?-

[eternal garnet]

yes..........

[bold monolith]

You probably did but you forgot.

[steel shoal]

Fishies, very cute and playful

[eternal garnet]

amphibians

[fervent bloom]

They come in multiple colors, as well.

[storm crest]

how does the fish follow you through a portal on land

[eternal garnet]

majik

it... goes into the portal?

[fervent bloom]

They can walk with rubbery fins, actually.

[eternal garnet]

pssst. DONT TELL MARGE

[storm crest]

||time to find out||

[bold monolith]

Trivalves are global when they're in following mode. If they can't keep up they're teleported.

[eternal garnet]

We're not in kansas anymore Toto

[eternal garnet]

uh oh

[bold monolith]

This as well.

[eternal garnet]

Build? that's cool

oh they are closed. are they fixed?

[bold monolith]

Yes.

[storm crest]

oh... ||that was the end...||

[eternal garnet]

all your questions answered!

[storm crest]

you dont even get a HUD so the answer to the tether is no

[spare smelt]

hi guys! i crashed out of the game and my several hour playsession is gone. i wonder if there is some way to be able to autosave every 10 or 15 minutes?

[eternal garnet]

there's a mod for that, but really you could do that too

look at an analog clock, ask yourself "have I saved in this quarter?"

[lusty mauve]

this happend to me once. ive been saving every 10-20 minutes

[lusty mauve]

is there a sea dragon of this game? or is there only the shadow fish down here

[chrome cedar]

No sea dragons.

[azure totem]

Is the Seatruck in BZ the new Seamoth or the New Cyclops? Like is it a one person vehicle or big Sub?

[fervent bloom]

It's both. It's mostly a one-person vehicle, but it can be expanded with various modules that lock together and form something like a train, which gives it more space and versatility at the cost of speed and maneuverability.

[azure totem]

How about for the Snowfox?

[fervent bloom]

The Snowfox can be picked up, and it isn't enclosed. It's different from anything in Subnautica.

The Seatruck is wonderful because it can be customized to each expedition.

For example, the modules can be detached for quick trips, or you can bring three storage modules, a fabricator module, a sleeper module, and a docking module for the Prawn suit on a long resource-gathering expedition.

[chrome cedar]

Or just make several to suit your mood.. 😎

[fervent bloom]

In my first game, it never occurred to me that I could make multiple of the same module.

[chrome cedar]

Never occurred to me that you couldn’t. First game I had to make my seamoth a few times when they’d get destroyed, so I got used to making duplicates.

[zenith tulip]

UH...||do i follow the mysterious floating arrow? i dont see anything in that direction||

[steel shoal]

There's probably another arrow in that direction

[zenith tulip]

what about the ||pilot last known position marker? Near the giant lily pads. i see nothing around it except an achitect cable that leads to nothing||

[steel shoal]

You should explore more carefully. ||On the surface, there's Maida's greenhouse; from the signal, you can see a part of the Mercury II wreck; you can also see a cable that leads to Omega Lab; the signal is next to a cave that leads to Maida's base; if you follow a bit more, you may find the Cotton Anemone Cave||

[zenith tulip]

fish magic

[chrome cedar]

Greenhouse is elsewhere.

[shy notch]

huh

[fervent bloom]

I would love it if the potted armored plant from ||Sam's desk at Phi Robotics|| was an item that could be picked up and placed in a base.

[steel shoal]

Me too

I got really sad when I couldn't get it

[fervent bloom]

Being able to slice it for seeds would be fine, too.

I wonder if any of the cut plants - the spine plant, snake plant, and frosted leaves plant - were going to be growable.

[prime ether]

Subnautica 3 news??

[steel shoal]

Subnautica 3?? Already?

[prime ether]

Anything I mean

Like a leak or info or somn...

[steel shoal]

The new title (which is not Subnautica 3) is in the works. There are no leaks/release dates. The devs will share their plans next year

[prime ether]

Daym

[steel shoal]

We know it's in Unreal Engine 5, but we don't even know the name

[prime ether]

Sb was made in unity

[steel shoal]

Yes, they are switching, so I expect longer development time

[prime ether]

Will the style be same

[steel shoal]

We don't know

[prime ether]

Ah

So it could be a completely different type of game

[steel shoal]

It's possible, but we'll have to wait and see

[prime ether]

Like lore wise

[steel shoal]

Lore-wise, it won't

It's in the Subnautica Universe

[prime ether]

Ok

Won't be called Subnautica tho

Sad

[steel shoal]

It may be

[prime ether]

.

Ohh

[steel shoal]

It's very possible, but we don't know if it's Subnautica 2 or yet another spinoff

[prime ether]

Understandable

But they have to start after the cliff hanger

Of bz

Probably

[steel shoal]

I don't know, maybe they'll leave that for later

I was thinking we'd follow Alterra and not Robin

[bold monolith]

I don't see it as a cliffhanger. I see it as an open ending. They don't have to answer it. Even later.

[steel shoal]

It'd be nice to see a Robin comic giving a little insights into her current location

There are so many important questions, such as "What does she eat?" and "How does she poop?"

[bold monolith]

In the old story there were information about Ryley in this game, they've scrapped it with the new one.

[steel shoal]

What info?

[bold monolith]

I don't remember if that was in public builds.

So I won't say.

[steel shoal]

o no

Can you say if it was about him being safe at home?

Because that's been said before

[prime ether]

All I want for next sub to have big monsta

I want it to have the same sense of eeriness as the first game

And scare

[steel shoal]

BZ has it too

[prime ether]

Eh

[steel shoal]

It just doesn't overuse the same creatures

Reapers don't feel special, Chelicerates do

[prime ether]

But I feel reapers are scarier

[steel shoal]

The OST helps a ton too, the distortion in the Crystalline Caverns makes it seem inviting at first, but then very wrong

[prime ether]

What I mean is that, you wouldn't go to the back of the aurora cuz you were scared of the reaper right? But chelacer doesn't make it that scary

[steel shoal]

Reapers are loud, Chelicerates are more of gentle giants

[prime ether]

Yea

That's what makes them scary

[steel shoal]

Chelicerates server the role of Ghost Leviathan, not Reaper

[prime ether]

Those are the dark ones

The red ones can get encountered easily when going to the Maida biome

The yellow area

[steel shoal]

I feel Squidsharks are the reapers, they're everywhere and they're very aggressive

[prime ether]

Noo wayy

[steel shoal]

Chelicerates are so quiet and pretty <3

[prime ether]

I don't have the comprehension skills to explain it but yea

Imo reapers scary

[steel shoal]

There are only 4 Chelis

[steel shoal]

They get annoying fast

[prime ether]

And wtf is a chelacertes

that's not scary at all

the name I mean

[steel shoal]

It sounds like a very complex species

Given the way it looks, I'd say it fits

Shadow Leviathan is super edgy tho

[prime ether]

Shadow leviathan is not scary

Its too visible

[steel shoal]

It is, it's super fast and aggressive

[prime ether]

Not like the merky waters of the reaper

[steel shoal]

Reapers are kinda ugly though, I'm happy that the only eel in this game is oogabooga

[prime ether]

Aren't all scary things ugly tho?

[steel shoal]

Eels are the lazy way of making creatures appear bigger

[steel shoal]

No, I'd say all leviathans in this game are very pretty

Ice Worm is very scary

[prime ether]

Oh yea

Those

[steel shoal]

Ventgardens may be the exception

[prime ether]

What is that

[steel shoal]

They're not particularly pretty, just impressive

[steel shoal]

The large jellyfish that you can get inside

[bold monolith]

I think I can say it was about his landing and the interviews he had afterward. The old story isn't canon anyway so if they want to say something in the future about it, they might change it.

[steel shoal]

Ohh I see. That would actually be really cool info to have

We don't have that much Aurora lore in BZ, it stops when Sunbeam does the thing

[frozen ether]

when did the seatruck dock get added?

[frozen ether]

hmm, looks like your survival rate is fast approaching zero, i reccomend you turn around and run

[fluid flame]

nah i want to see these overgrown shrimps

i saved my game beforehand so i dont mind dying

I take everything back.

okay where is ||margerit's|| base

bruv i tried to find that ||woman|| but instead I got lost in some werid cotton place and found ||some werid skeleton|| and ALSO almost got eaten, hypnotized and drowned to death on my way back

what a lovely game

now i found a wreck

dude i keep finding crap I wasn't even looking for

ok now i see ||tree-looking octopuses|| in the distance

someone help

ok finally i found the right way

[frozen ether]

is the tree looking octopus like really, really big?

[left marsh]

Damn thats a lo of trxt

If ur in the cotton area then ur too low

[fluid flame]

there were 2 small ones, ik there is a big one somewhere but i dont know where

[left marsh]

Her base is eoughly at 315m

[fluid flame]

bro the cotton area was like 600m deep but the base is only 350m deep

oh nvm didnt understand

[left marsh]

Have u found it yet?

Its got story related stuff so ull need to go there

[fluid flame]

idk why but i thought "low" means "not deep enough"

[fluid flame]

yea found it

[left marsh]

Ohh ig i phrased jt a bit weirdly

[fluid flame]

i wonder whats below the base...

[left marsh]

Btw did u at least pcik up some cotton?

[fluid flame]

u can pick that up? i only got a bunch of orange balls

[left marsh]

Its a pretty plant ||and u may need it 👀||

[fluid flame]

and the green stuff

[left marsh]

Not the big ones only the small ones

[fluid flame]

ok i somehow made it to a biome with a bunch of crystals im scared

[left marsh]

Oh uh the neighbourhood is quite friendly dw 😄

[fluid flame]

oops i drowned

attempt 2

hmm a leviathan class creature is near?

and I've got 40hp?

aight im going there

I'd explore more but I dont have enough oxygen

[left marsh]

What o2 tank do u have

[fluid flame]

high capacity

only found 1 blueprint for the ultra high capacity one

okay make that 2

lets go make that 3

Where do i get the spiral plant clipping?

Is this what i think it is

yes very much im scared for my life

youll find a bunch of werid alien things laying on the ground

just follow them

look for more

high capacity O2 tank i think

you can do that with the pots from delta

put them inside your base

like this

then once you make one

i've decided i'm making mine on lilypads

turns out there is a lot of important resources near there related to mid and endgame and having them right next to me would save a ton of time

[left marsh]

I put mine in purple vents because the areas rly pretty

Its alwyas good to have multiple. Lily pads is a good area and so is one of the icebergs, cant rmbr which one

[fluid flame]

i want a vase partially above and partially under water and i feel like the lilypads would fit that role really well

[left marsh]

Yeah they do but tbh it doesnt look too great

[fluid flame]

im too lazy to spend time gathering resources for multiple bases

[left marsh]

The biome is amazing but a base there feels off tbh

[left marsh]

Just have the minimum moonpool + room with solar panel

[fluid flame]

I want my bases looking nice too

either way im 100% putting my base southeast of delta

right now im so far away from there that it would take me like 5 minutes to make a one way trip

probably

lol u only need 4 lithium for the ultra high capacity tank

and i just so happen to have exactly that amount

average day on an alien planet

[fluid flame]

idk maybe cuz it was chilling in a sea monket nest?

also the creature inside literally is a sea monkey

wait i see a connection

sea monkeys suddenly become friends with you around the same time you get ||alan||

[left marsh]

Adter u get ||alan|| then sea monkeys give rather than steal

[fluid flame]

hm just like i thought

[left marsh]

Its an intended fearuee and u get a PDA log

“Sea monkey have changed their tune” or something

[fluid flame]

is this later explained in the story

[left marsh]

Idk ive never bothered to read that log properly

[fluid flame]

that log doesnt say anything

[left marsh]

Well, ig ull have to find out :/

Its really cheap, takes about 15 mins to get everything

[steel stream]

And there's still one more trick to sea monkeys...try pinning a recipe

[left marsh]

Ah yes.. the best prr of them

I got a diamond off one for free in the drop pod area 💀

[fervent bloom]

If you want the West Arctic, I'd follow the coast toward the Emergency Supply Cache and keep going.

[fervent bloom]

Keep going a little farther...

[zenith tulip]

Will peepers and bladderfish ||reproduce in the aquarium||?

[mellow creek]

does light affect aggro range of any species in below zero? if yes, no spoiler about location etc pls

[zenith tulip]

Im going to say no

[steel stream]

No, only in alien containment

[steel stream]

Maybe not light, but flares definitely have effect on some creatures

[fluid flame]

apparently they can give even nickel and kyanite (according to wiki)

[steel stream]

I would say no to kyanite...

[fluid flame]

nvm nickel yes but kyanite not

[zenith tulip]

||I found maida’s base but last i was here, i found a burnt out lab that i didnt get a chance to fully explore.|| can someone point me to it? Even a compass direction would be fine. ||I think it is omega lab??||

[fluid flame]

here's how it looks on a map

it says its approximately 200m deep

ok nobody told me there is a chelicerate just casually chilling above one of the alien structures waiting to eat me

[steel stream]

In lilypads island there's an architect cable (quite close to pilot's last known location beacon marker) follow it inside the big rock

[zenith tulip]

Yea i found it, i was following the wrong cable. Had to make a little single room outpost to keep going back for air, sea truck cant get that deep yet

[fluid flame]

u should get the mk1 depth module its pretty cheap and makes life easier

[zenith tulip]

Dont have enameled glass yet. Or plasteel but that soon to come

[fluid flame]

what.

[fluid flame]

srry didnt mean to ping

[zenith tulip]

Your oxygen is extra warm

[fluid flame]

but u can get lithium from purple vents easily and i personally got diamonds from deep twisty bridges, u dont need a depth module to explore those

[fluid flame]

cool

ok i need to go to omega lab too cuz there is a lot of important blueprints and fragment that i will need for my base

okay time to initiate mission "spend over an hour moving all my things to the other side of the map to build a base there"

I have 3 questions:
what.
how.
why.

[zenith tulip]

I see no problem here

[fluid flame]

there. is. no. medkit. fabricator. in. below. zero.

AYO is Sam ||a lesbian||??

bro got stuck lol (I found him in a supply crate)

[steel stream]

You can see it in a couple of places, but no blueprint and cannot build it...

[cold mountain]

What can you do with the little firefly like creatures? The small green ones that glow?

[steel stream]

Rockgrubs? Not much

I think you can put them in aquarium/alien containment and that's about it

[cold mountain]

Mhm, I got 6 of em, if they don‘t reproduce…

[fervent bloom]

They can't be placed in aquariums, but you can supposedly drop them to distract rock punchers.

[fluid flame]

ok the idea of building a base on lilypads doesn't seem as good now that im standing on the lilypads...

SO COOL! (ignore the artifact)

[eternal garnet]

🎅

[fluid flame]

I have reached peak building skills.

[fervent bloom]

I prefer to build in the underwater part of the biome.

[next current]

Pretty good spot.

[fluid flame]

now time to carry out objective: spend hours moving crap from one base to another

the whales under the base are sick too

ill have a nice view of them

[fervent bloom]

Glow whales are wonderful, aren't they? Have you experienced the alternative interaction?

[fluid flame]

what does "alternative interaction" mean? I had 2 so far: ||first petting him near the eye and second riding on him||

[fervent bloom]

Those are the only two, but I wanted to let you know about the first if you hadn't done it yet.

[fluid flame]

im now gonna pet every single whale in the game im not kidding

[fervent bloom]

Make sure you visit the East Arctic. There are quite a few there.

[fluid flame]

and a not-so-friendly shrimp.

he caught me kinda off guard tbh

is there anything usefull Ill need later on in the east arctic

[fervent bloom]

I wouldn't worry about getting everything, but there are some useful things to find there.

[fluid flame]

i was considering making my base closer to the east but there arent as many whales here

so that's a no

[fervent bloom]

Do you have an alien containment yet? You can find glow whale eggs...

They might not let you do the same interactions, though.

[fluid flame]

is the egg 3x3?

[fervent bloom]

It is, and the adult is 4x4.

[fluid flame]

oh you mean the actual specimen

i thought u were talking about some "adult egg"

my brain is not working lol

[fervent bloom]

I'm not sure what you mean...

[fluid flame]

by adult you mean the actual whale after hatching is that right

[fervent bloom]

Yes, that's right.

[fluid flame]

it took me about 20 seconds to understand that part

I'd say what i thought u meant but its so stupid i wont even bother

[eternal garnet]

the hatchling is not adult. so it's a baby, and it's 4x4 slots

[fervent bloom]

That's fair, I guess. Thank you!

[fluid flame]

i imagine thats what he meant

[eternal garnet]

keep it in your pocket, it's nice

[fervent bloom]

Does the game let you drop one on land?

[fluid flame]

"keep a whale in your pocket" 💀

[eternal garnet]

uh... I don't know all the things! Yet

[fluid flame]

you wanna suffocate the guy or what

[fervent bloom]

Me neither - that's why I ask questions!

[fervent bloom]

Of course not, but I'm just curious as to what would happen. They can be picked up again once you release them, I think, unlike some other creatures.

[fluid flame]

this game keeps surprising me more and more

[fervent bloom]

It's not the same as the Aurora from the first game, but I like this better. Did you know that it's possible (but very rare) in this game to get struck by lightning?

[fluid flame]

how much damage does that do

[fervent bloom]

I'm not sure, but only around 10 or so, I think.

[fluid flame]

that makes zero sense as irl its literally like 10% chance of death and often leaves marks on your skin for life

i guess these dive suits really be overpowered

[fervent bloom]

Maybe the atmospheric conditions on 4546B are different, or maybe it can do a lot more damage and I got lucky. The third option is that it didn't strike the player, but just very, very close.

[fluid flame]

imagine taking less damage to lighting than to a penguin

[fervent bloom]

Have you seen the dental spines on a pengwing?

How's your base going?

[fluid flame]

rn im wondering if to change lilypads but this one is the best i think

[fervent bloom]

I've got a ||Lilypad Islands|| base on the sea floor, near a squidshark. It's mainly for alien containment, but it's also a nice outpost and observatory.

[fluid flame]

its kinda late today so i wont bother building it and im gonna start either tomorrow or uhh... tomorrow-tomorrow?

[fervent bloom]

I would call it the day after tomorrow. I'd love to see more of it if you get closer to completion.

[fluid flame]

i feel like this base has potential and it will top all of my previous ones (that would be 2 of them, one not even partially completed and the other one from SB)

[fervent bloom]

Where were the others located?

[fluid flame]

one in safe shallows in the og game

the other in twisty bridges

[fervent bloom]

My main base is in a ledge just below 150 meters there.

It's not big (just a multipurpose room, a large room, an observatory, and a few compartments), but I quite like it.

[fluid flame]

I started my twisty bridges base on my 1st playthrough (currently on my 2nd) but i think i got too ambicious with it because i planned for it to have a total of 3 large rooms AND i tried to built the whole thing all at once instead of slowly expanding it and i ended up quitting the game of burnout

[fervent bloom]

I'm definitely the type of person who prefers to work on bases gradually - I hope this one goes well.

[fluid flame]

i think ill stick to that method as well

trying to plan out the entire base without having much blueprints and having no idea what you'll actually need later in the game is a bad idea

[fervent bloom]

Some planning can be good, but I certainly prefer to expand as needed.

[fluid flame]

pretty much

[fallen valley]

My save got corrupted somehow and my seatruck is in a weird quantum state where it's both docked and not docked and I can't undock it. I'm thinking of running a killvehicle and respawning all my modules. Will this disable achievements? And does anyone have any better ideas?

[left marsh]

It will disable achievements

[fallen valley]

What do I do

[left marsh]

As for ideas..well im not much use

[fallen valley]

My game is basically broken

[fervent bloom]

If you'd like, you could try to destroy it without the command...

[fallen valley]

man

[left marsh]

Unless hes got a prawn suit its gonna be hard

[fallen valley]

How would I do it with the prawn suit? Just punch it?

[fervent bloom]

I would suggest the propulsion cannon.

[fallen valley]

I could try the prop cannon

Crazy how I'm always the one to get their save corrupted. Happened to me in the first game too

[fallen valley]

How do I use the prop cannon to do it? Right clicking on it doesn't do anything

And I can't deconstruct the dock, obviously

[fervent bloom]

I'm not sure, but I thought it might do damage quickly.

[fallen valley]

I'll try the prawn suit

[left marsh]

Prop cannon doesnt do dmg i swr

[left marsh]

It happens a lot

[fallen valley]

If it's a common occurence, they should really have a recovery system built in

Prawn suit destroyed it. Time to rebuild it yipeeee

[left marsh]

Gl ig?

Make a seatruck dock tho, its better for the modules + moonpool for prawn

[fervent bloom]

I'm not anything like an expert, but I think some shutdown/reboot habits with a computer can tend to corrupt the save.

[eternal garnet]

if you install Qmodmanager (PC), it enables achievements again

[fallen valley]

It got bugged IN the dock

[left marsh]

Yes that is very true

[fallen valley]

It was in a state where it was docked and undocked and so I couldn't undock it

[left marsh]

Ohh mb. I just like dock tho : )

[eternal garnet]

if the command doesn't work, shoot at it with titanium and prop cannon

[fallen valley]

By the way, if I used commands but then didn't resave and reloaded the save, achievements will still be active, right?

And is there a way to double-check that they're enabled?

[eternal garnet]

yes, correct

the cheat flag is set by any valid command. it's stored in the save data

with Qmodmanager installed, it will bypass the cheat flag

[fallen valley]

How do I double check that that flag is off

[eternal garnet]

difficult

[fallen valley]

man

[fallen valley]

It's not in gameinfo.json, right?

[eternal garnet]

no. I cannot reset or read it. Ignis can. Just get qmodmanager 4

[fallen valley]

okay so something is definitely amiss. I fixed it, right? And I redocked the seatruck and saved and reloaded and the same bug happened again

Even though I deconstructed the dock and reconstructed it afterward

What the heck

[eternal garnet]

I don't know. Broken installation

[fallen valley]

This just started happening though. It wasn't happening before :/

Okay I just installed QModManager with Thunderstore and have launched the game modded

[eternal garnet]

The dock is not required. You can use the moonpool instead. but your game is uniquely broken

[fallen valley]

Now what?

[eternal garnet]

achievements will now fire

commands or not

[fallen valley]

Alright, thanks. Will I have to launch it modded every time?

[eternal garnet]

only to get new achievements

[fallen valley]

aaaaaa

[eternal garnet]

also there's no downside

[fallen valley]

There's nothing I can do to alter the save so that I don't have to launch it modded every time?

[eternal garnet]

no

[cold mountain]

Is there an Engine Efficiency Module for Prawn/Seatruck?

[fervent bloom]

That's a good question, but I'm not sure.

[left marsh]

No there isnt.. i think?!

[fervent bloom]

The Prawn suit has a thermal reactor...

[left marsh]

Double check in creative

[eternal garnet]

Pretty sure there isn't one

[left marsh]

Seatruck is pretty energy efficient aneay

[left marsh]

There isnt but im inclined to believe theres something similar

Ah yes its the horsepower upgrade but its for speed

[eternal garnet]

thermal charger for prawn is here

[left marsh]

Only with 2 or mre modules

[eternal garnet]

3 or more

[left marsh]

No it affects 2 as well i think

[fervent bloom]

The horsepower upgrade does make the Seatruck more efficient, in a way. If it takes less time to reach your destination, you use less power.

[left marsh]

As in 2 modules added*

[left marsh]

It doesnt increase speed without enough modules

[eternal garnet]

no, wiki is wrong. 2 modules still get full speed always

[cold mountain]

There is an Engine Efficiency Module for the Seatruck

[left marsh]

Ohh ok mb

[left marsh]

Huh what

[eternal garnet]

You can test this: the F1 screen has speed

[cold mountain]

Just checked in creative

[left marsh]

Ps4 :/

Damn howd i never find that upgrade

[eternal garnet]

interesting. but it's not in the world to scan

[cold mountain]

Now I need to know where to find it :/

[left marsh]

Couls be cheated in tho just like stasis rifle

[eternal garnet]

isn't there

Just put one or two ion power cells in it

[left marsh]

Ion cubs r limitrd tho

[fervent bloom]

Could it be something like the spotlight that counts as a blueprint in the game, but has no method to aquire the blueprint.

[left marsh]

As in creative only? Yes thats the case with stasis rifle too

[cold mountain]

Creative only kinda… sucks

[left marsh]

Ye

Is there nuclear torpedoes in creative bz? Or is that mods

[cold mountain]

I‘ve never heard of nuclear torpedos anywhere

[left marsh]

Oh might have been dreaming 👀

Fell asleep at the ps4 whilst playing bz once a vouple weeks back

[cold mountain]

Did you starve to death, dehydrated till death or drowned?

[left marsh]

Oh yeah multiple timrs

I was in base tho

Chilling next to bioreactor.

||Alan || was calling too. Mustve been on hold for many hours

[cold mountain]

lol

[left marsh]

He has a very calming voicr

Personally i rly like it

[cold mountain]

What? Sleeping or Talking to Alan?

[left marsh]

Alan

Sleeping as well tho

[cold mountain]

It‘s a fun interaction

Like it as well

[left marsh]

Mhm. Tho i dont like robin

If an alien went into my head who is supremely smarter than me id welcome it

[cold mountain]

I mean, she‘s probably just a bit annoyed due to beeing in an hostile Alien environment

[left marsh]

Hm. Wouldnt it be nice to have someone to talk to?

[cold mountain]

And if someone talks in your brain that tells you how primitive you are…

[cold mountain]

Yes, talking to someone would be great, but Alan seems a little offensive

[left marsh]

Well, thats fair. But shes a person who conducts research as a job. Shouldnt that be an amazing notion?

[left marsh]

True . At the start at least

And ||maida isnt the best character either||

[cold mountain]

It gets better the more they know eachother

[cold mountain]

hard disagree, I‘d be happy to talk to someone like Maida

[left marsh]

Hmm well she is a mercenary. Good for survavial experiences and stories but as a perosn not really

Her character is amazing dont get me wrong. Just talking to her wouldnt work i feel

I mean look at the interactions between barts dad and maida in the first game.. not the best

[cold mountain]

Barts dad ain‘t the best either

[left marsh]

True

My first impression of maida in bzwas that shes a karen

Its cos of the trespassing line..

[cold mountain]

That was a little strange, true

But her telling me to gtfo of her Seabase is my favourite interaction

[left marsh]

Ye

That was fun. Then she calls u over to give plants…

That iceberg trip was the biggest waste of time for me

[cold mountain]

Not for me, I like to collect things, the plants and creatures are one of the things I like to collect

And Iceberg are most edible first game plants and of course Titanus Holefish

[left marsh]

Ah yes

[fervent bloom]

Plants and creatures are wonderful. For some reason, I feel more compelled to get all the flora in the game rather than all the fauna...

[left marsh]

The flora is amazing in bz

It adds so much depth

[cold mountain]

I like them both, I think it‘s just sad that you can only get I think three cosmetic plants

[left marsh]

Even the creepvine kinda looks good tho

The red seed clusters look better than the yeloow ones

[fervent bloom]

That's the spotted dockleaf, the violet beau, and the redwort, right? I feel like there must be at least one I'm forgetting.

[left marsh]

I think thats all

[cold mountain]

Winterhardened Cavebush?

[left marsh]

Oh i never got the seeds for that one

[fervent bloom]

I think it's just the hardy cave bush, but that makes four.

[cold mountain]

Wait, spotted dockleaf?

[fervent bloom]

It's found on the seafloor in the ||Lilypad Islands||, often near fallen ||lilypads||.

[left marsh]

Isnt there a variant on the the violet bureu?

But it gives the same seeds

[cold mountain]

I live there and never noticed anything lol

[fervent bloom]

Have you ever shared images of your base?

[left marsh]

Merry Christmas guys btw

[cold mountain]

not in bz

[left marsh]

Just hit 00:02 for me

[cold mountain]

just 00:02? 01:02

[fervent bloom]

In that case, I'd be curious to see it. How big did it end up?

It's 6:03 on the 24th for me.

[cold mountain]

I guess we be living in the future

[fallen valley]

@eternal garnet I'm about to ||cure the khraa|| so i want to make sure I get the achievement. This is what I need, right?

[cold mountain]

Not as big as my base in the Treecove in the first game but it has a way cooler interior

[fervent bloom]

They definitely improved base building in this game, particularly in the interior.

Is yours in the central part of the biome, or near one of the edges?

[cold mountain]

The customizable beds are incredible

[eternal garnet]

That looks majorly updated to when I saw it. But the feature should be in QmodManager

[cold mountain]

More central I think, near Pilots last known location

[fervent bloom]

Mine is very close to that, I think, near an island that's still connected by roots to the seabed.

My favorite is Fred's bed, but Sam's bed is great as well.

[cold mountain]

We might have a pretty similar location

[left marsh]

I like like the double bed

Also the scenery in this game is absolutely wonderful

[fallen valley]

Yep I got it. Thank you, swe!

[left marsh]

Have u built a base at purple vents?

Thr location is absolutely stunning

[cold mountain]

Parvans bed 👌

[fervent bloom]

It would be cool to find out exactly where each of ours are relative to each other. Yours looks amazing, by the way.

[left marsh]

Btw why dont u tey control room?

Can change lighting colours

Can help it fit in with biome

[cold mountain]

Thank you, I‘ll send better picture in Awesome bases in a moment

[cold mountain]

You mean light colors or colors of the outside?

I don‘t think you can change light colors

[left marsh]

Idk cant rmbr last time i made it

I think its interior lighting but i might br wrong

[cold mountain]

You can turn of the electricity in a room which makes it dark

But then the room and everything inside isn‘t powered

[left marsh]

Oh i probably misinterpreted the description then..

Ik rmbr making the room but it was on a save a long time ago

[fervent bloom]

Would you mind if I sent you a screenshot of my base at some point in the near future?

[cold mountain]

Here if the location helps

[cold mountain]

No, not at all

[cold mountain]

Photo is made at entrance hatch

[fervent bloom]

Thank you, though I think the signal isn't always in an identical location.

[cold mountain]

This "mountain" with the entrance might be a better landmark…

[fervent bloom]

Is that where ||Omega Lab|| is located?

[cold mountain]

I honestly have no Idea

I haven‘t refound and marked it yet

[fervent bloom]

Oh, right. I'm guessing that it is.

[cold mountain]

It does exist, nice

one of my favourites

When you run out of Lead, Copper, Quartz and Titanium at the same time 💀

[cold mountain]

I just found it in the mountain by accident, it is

[fervent bloom]

Spotted dockleaf is one of my favorite plants... I like redwort as well.

[merry oak]

Hey I need help. I clicked out of the subnautica chat channel and the channel is gone now

[mellow creek]

how to access seatruck upgrades while its in the docking tube?

[fervent bloom]

It may be impossible to do so...

[zenith tulip]

hey, i've gotten two beacons for the exact same place? ||the architect sanctuary first then another signal - alien distress call origin; I get this after I've uploaded AL-AN and been doing other things for awhile||

[chrome cedar]

Definitely impossible from what I’ve seen.

[chrome cedar]

It’s a feature…. Backup beacon to make sure you get it regardless. Just turn off one of them and feel free to ignore it.

[zenith tulip]

so im in ||jellyshroom cave place, and i need to find the architect body piece thats 150 m deeper, but i dont see a way down?||

[jovial anchor]

Merry Christmas

[spare smelt]

thanks for your quick reply! exactly that part i do not want to do 🙂

[chrome cedar]

It’s a spiral path down from a side chamber. ||Look for the green glowing pillars.||

[sacred jungle]

Merry christmas everyone!

[fluid flame]

Probably either a problem with steam or your internet

Either way i think you can just ignore this message because subnautica is an single player game anyway

Im not a specialist or anything but unless something happens to the save on your pc you'll be alright

Now this is a problem with your laptop

I started mine on the lilypads yesterday, this is how it's going so far

Its probably just that your pc is unable to keep up

Perhaps try restarting your laptop?

But restarting, not turning it off and on again

[left marsh]

All good then : D

[tough oak]

this describes alot of bz. Confusing cramped maze caves

[frozen ether]

yes, near the ||alien sos signal, ||about 30 metres depth, there is a small platform with ribbon plants on it, there is also a exterior growbed you can scan

[eternal garnet]

deep twisty bridges, below 300m

koppa mine

and literally in lava vents

Oh, unpin all, pin a diamond item, find monkeys

50% they give items from your pins

[carmine bobcat]

I can finally chat in this channel

Can you see why?

[eternal garnet]

Sonic Below Zero

[carmine bobcat]

Oh no sonic got frostbite he cant gotta go fast anymore

[eternal garnet]

again

[rigid token]

i might buy below zero

[next current]

That game on the bottom left is pretty cool.

[gray salmon]

after so long, i made it... i finished below zero, don't understand why i didn't like it. Turned out its 🔥

[eternal garnet]

[eternal garnet]

cute

[graceful monolith]

how do I go up the radio tower thing

I cant find any way up to it

[eternal garnet]

a ladder

[graceful monolith]

where

[graceful monolith]

no i mean how do I get to the radio tower

[eternal garnet]

walk up the island, thru the tunnels about twice. There's a base here too

[graceful monolith]

oh thanks

[eternal garnet]

and a surprise...

[fervent bloom]

How many ribbon plants do you need?

[eternal garnet]

also plant: gel sack, deep shrooms (cotton anemone), spiral plant, creepvine SEED not leaf, fevered pepper

[fervent bloom]

Oh, right. I thought you were using them for batteries/power cells...

Are they an especially good bioreactor fuel?

I need to make a spreadsheet of Below Zero bioreactor values...

[eternal garnet]

what if there was a wiki already. There is!

[fervent bloom]

Well, it doesn't have them in a sortable format. Also, I do like making spreadsheets.

I will use the wiki for the information, though.

[eternal garnet]

The page
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Bioreactor_(Below_Zero)

[fervent bloom]

It's also nice to have the energy per slot, but I didn't realize it was set up in that way.

[eternal garnet]

Good fuel plants: Fevered Pepper (can grow right next to it), Ribbon plant (higher energy density)

Root pustule (can't grow em, not renewable)

[fervent bloom]

Are flowering spores also non-renewable? They're not especially good fuel, but I've wondered about that.

[eternal garnet]

Peepers are good, if you breed them

or triops

[stable fossil]

Just got below zero on my ps5, only got to play it briefly in gamepass awhile ago, i already built a base close to some penglings and one close to the life pod thingy but i dont know much else to do(i play creative), anyone know fun spots to build in?

[eternal garnet]

I think they are not renewable

[fervent bloom]

Hey! Also, arctic peepers appear to be the best food fish...

[eternal garnet]

haha

[stable fossil]

yeah, you can just get two and in short time you get a bunch of them breeding, atleast in subnautica idk about below zero

[eternal garnet]

Excellent reactor fuel!

[eternal garnet]

I honestly don't see the fun in creative

[stable fossil]

i only play creative because survival is a bit boring for me, i love sandbox games and decorating, and i also love the sea and its creatures, which is why i like it. anyways you know any good base spots?

[eternal garnet]

There's freedom, or custom, your own mix of creative and survival

Freedom even has achievements

(Custom does not)

[stable fossil]

i see, i might try it, but base?

[eternal garnet]

plot wise, near delta is very central. Lilypads is a pretty place to live

[fervent bloom]

I can recommend the Twisty Bridges...

[eternal garnet]

If there, go the south part where it's deeper and closer to map center

[stable fossil]

alright, ill try to look at a video or map to see where delta and twisty bridges are

[eternal garnet]

twisty is the starting biome (not the crash site tho)

and Delta is the island south of it. The only true island

[fervent bloom]

I was actually suggesting the deeper Twisty Bridges areas with brute sharks and table coral.

[eternal garnet]

yes, the canyon

[fervent bloom]

That's a better name for it...

[fluid flame]

i need some motivation to move all my stuff across the map i swear this will take me like an hour

ig ill just get started cuz i wont do it just sitting around here

its literally 1.2km in ONE WAY bruh

[gray salmon]

good night y'all

[fluid flame]

good night

bruh one of those cryptosuchus guys got so close to my seatruck that his beak literally clipped through the glass 💀

I was like "did he stop following me?" and turned around to check and i saw him practically eating me through the glass

I didnt get so scared even when I saw a shrimp for the first time or saw a squidshark entering a cave i thought he couldnt enter

[fervent bloom]

Cryptosuchi can sneak up on you quite well, considering how loud they are. Which biome was the squidshark inhabiting?

[fluid flame]

the squidshark was from deep twisty bridges

[fervent bloom]

That was my guess... what did you find down there?

[fluid flame]

a bunch of diamonds, gel sucks, some lithium and a bunch of seatruck compartments

after going there i found out there is some ||alien structure|| apparently there as well, but I didn't see it while i was there

how did i put "there" 3 times in a single sentence

[fervent bloom]

What modules did you end up building for your Seatruck, and which do you have?

[fervent bloom]

You used it four times, actually.

[fluid flame]

at the moment only storage

[fluid flame]

💀

[fervent bloom]

That's my setup as well, mostly for speed and maneuverability.

[fluid flame]

Does the seatruck fabricator allow you to craft anything a normal one cannot? For example, just like the cyclops shield generator from the og game?

[fervent bloom]

No, it's just a mobile fabricator.

[fluid flame]

I assume from the description that the aquarium module just automatically catches random fish like peepers and boomerangs

[fervent bloom]

This is correct; there's capacity for 16 fish, all of which can be viewed swimming around in the transparent sides. It's also a great module for sitting and watching creatures in.

Among the fauna it can catch are sea monkey babies and penglings.

[fluid flame]

i suppose this isnt really a very useful module

i guess you could use the fish you catch as a food source (maybe) but its probably not worth it

[steel stream]

Well, it catches you food when driving around

Unless you play vegan...

[fluid flame]

a vegan playthrough? hmm thats a good idea...

i imagine getting vegan water would be a total pain

[fervent bloom]

You'd be surprised; many of the plants in the game give quite a bit of water. You can get 20 from the frost anemone hearts near the drop pod - they regrow, too.

[fluid flame]

from the what?

didnt know that was a thing lol

[fervent bloom]

Under the ice, there are these spiny plants that grow downwards with green-yellow, edible fruit.

[fluid flame]

oh those

nvm i ate one once

is it possible to plant one in a growbed?

[fervent bloom]

It is not, unfortunately. I suppose it makes sense, because they would need to grow upside-down.

[fluid flame]

yeah ig

i think u confused "sense" with "since"

was that a typo

[fervent bloom]

Yes, it was. I apologize.

[fluid flame]

dang u dont need to apologize over a single mistake while i be here putting "there" 4 times in one message

[fervent bloom]

In addition to the ones you've found, there are at least three more Seatruck modules.

[fluid flame]

i know there's one with a bed

[fervent bloom]

The sleeper module also comes with a built-in jukebox and picture frame.

[fluid flame]

and one that allows you to attach a prawn suit to the back

[fluid flame]

cool

[fervent bloom]

Those are the main two, but you can also get a ||teleportation|| module. You can use a special tool to ||return to it|| whenever you'd like. The only issue is that it uses a drains a third of the charge of an ||ion cube|| for every use.

[fluid flame]

that's some advanced precursor stuff

[steel stream]

On my current vegan run I've been eating lot of creepvine seeds for water...

[fervent bloom]

It is, especially because it's a combination of two ||species'|| technologies. There are a few other things in the game that also make use of ||Architect technology||, including the headlamp and the recyclotron.

[fervent bloom]

What makes you choose those over alternatives?

[steel stream]

Easy to get and don't spoil

[fervent bloom]

Ah, that makes sense.

[fluid flame]

hmm could I make the water filtration machine my only water source

[steel stream]

Also shrub nuts don't spoil...but both take lot of inventory space

But it actually works quite fine to have seatruck storage full of food/water when beginning exploration trip, and then I get more space when I eat the storages empty...

[fervent bloom]

Shrub nuts are a great source of health when you're at a base, if you grow them. I like your method of storing food and making room as you explore.

[steel stream]

The thing is that vegan has little options for non-spoiling food and water sources early game, unlike fish-eaters. It would be different if there was a greenhouse module for seatruck, lol

[fervent bloom]

It is a little bit more of a challenge, but I never struggled with it.

[steel stream]

Recently I got water filtration machine, so water side is starting to get some improvement

[steel stream]

Not a real struggle, but definitely different than having filtered water and salted fish as an option...

[fluid flame]

i want to fill an entire multipurpose room with water filtration machines but I feel like it would drain a ton of power

[steel stream]

Yes it would

[fervent bloom]

In my opinion, a good power source and a water filtration machine give you more than enough water, at least if you eat plants for water instead when at your base.

[steel stream]

Exactly, and that's my plan now that I got the machine

[fervent bloom]

Fevered peppers are probably the best plant for water, and they don't spoil too quickly. Antennae plants are quite efficient as a food source - they give 20 food, as well as 5 water and 9 health.

[steel stream]

I made a mistake with antennae plant: only brought the fruit to my base to learn that I should have cut the plant to get seeds...interesting choise from the devs to not be able to plant the fruit (like for example peppers or lantern fruit or shrub nut)

[fluid flame]

I have absolutely no idea what im doing but atleast now i got all my stuff over to lilypads

ABSOLUTELY no idea.

[cold mountain]

You can catch sea monkey babies?

[eternal garnet]

no, you can hatch them from eggs

they are the cutest thing ingame, btw

[cold mountain]

Can you take the freshly hatched monkey and slap it into a basic Aquarium?

[cold mountain]

Wait, you can eat creepvine seeds?

[eternal garnet]

They taste like motor oil, but yes

[cold mountain]

I didn‘t even see an eating prompt there lol

[steel stream]

It's only in below zero, not in the first game

[steel shoal]

You can!

You can also put penglings in there

Strangely, you cannoot put nootfish...

[eternal garnet]

*you can noot put nootfish

[cold mountain]

I found out abou the penglings after I looked into my Aquarium Module and found five of them in there, but baby sea monkeys?

[steel shoal]

It was noot a good pun, by the way

[cold mountain]

I didn‘t even know they were a seperate entity

[steel shoal]

You can pick them up with both hands

And hold them

so cute

[eternal garnet]

theyhavenofeet-it'ssocute

[cold mountain]

I need to try it out right now!

The fauna-breading works the same way it did in the first game, right?

[eternal garnet]

yes

like minecraft cows

[cold mountain]

Ye feed them fish and then they produce babys? Sounds like perfect realism

[eternal garnet]

you don't need to feed them

So not quite the same I guess

[cold mountain]

I‘ve realised that

How long do Monkey take to produce an egg and how long does it take for the egg to hatch?

If I remember correctly it‘s different from species to species, right?

[steel shoal]

I think it depends on size

Sea Monkeys and Pengwings have to grow from babies to adults before being able to breed, though

[cold mountain]

I have two adults in an Containment, I just need to wait for the hatched baby

But that could take like 20 minutes…

The egg just plopped out

It‘s already wiggeling hard

I‘m currently wearing the still suit cuz why not, why does the filtered water take food?

[steel stream]

Because free water source has to have some drawback I guess...

[deep kettle]

Laughs in freedom mode.

😄

[steel stream]

And it's reclaimed water, not filtered water (which comes from bladderfish)

Just a thought: is reclaimed water vegan...technically it's not, but will the game allow to use it if vegan mode selected?

[steel shoal]

I was gonna ask the same thing

I dunno, I must try it

[steel stream]

But the game seems to allow drinking filtered water that you find at the crash site, despite the info text "not for vegans". Just don't have filtered water option in fabricator

And crafting air bladder is allowed, which a true vegan wouldn't do...and I guess also cold suit is available in vegan mode

[steel shoal]

Hey

Vegans wear clothes too

[cold mountain]

Cold suit is just fur, you technicly don‘t kill/harm any animal with it

[steel shoal]

They just don't eat them

[cold mountain]

This monkey takes longer to hatch than I thought…

[steel shoal]

Fortunately, beds

[cold mountain]

I thought of sleeping, but I‘m afraid that I miss the baby phase and wake up when it‘s already an adult

Okay, I‘ve slept. Why is this thing so cuteeeeee?

I originally wanted to make a basic Aqarium with all the new fish, but now I have to decide if I count both Pengling and Seamonkey as fish

because one needs to go and one can stay

[steel shoal]

Try making an aquarium module

[cold mountain]

I have

[steel shoal]

Fill both containments with baby seamonkeys

[cold mountain]

Good Idea

[eternal garnet]

Technically, none are fish or mammals

or reptiles

[steel stream]

I've understood that there are vegans that don't use anything of animal origin

[steel shoal]

Hey, I do

[cold mountain]

I now have to wait for 11 more seamonkeys to hatch (1/4)

Because my current seatruck has 7 Modules and lacks any Mobility, Speed or Anything else movement related I made another fully equiped Seatruck with just the ||Docking Module|| so I can get around faster alone and with Prawn. I‘m still mostly using the big truck because it‘s basicly a mobile base with LOADS of storage but to get somewhere just to collect two lithium I‘m using the small one

And yes, I‘ve made a second seatruck docking station just for Truck and the one Module

[fervent bloom]

I've always considered filtered water that's found in crates or other sources to be vegan, because if Alterran citizens aren't used to eating non-synthetic food, I'm pretty sure they aren't filtering water through fish membranes.

Also, I wish the rockgrub could go in an aquarium.

[cold mountain]

You can put em in an containment

[fervent bloom]

Yeah, I know (thank you), but they're a little too small to look nice there.

[cold mountain]

And a little too small to reliebly catch again

[fervent bloom]

There's that, as well.

If you ever have symbiotes in an alien containment, make sure you have really grabbed them before you exit the tank. Otherwise, they might end up swimming around in the walls of your base after they escape.

[cold mountain]

I‘ve expirienced that once, wasn‘t fun to solve 💀

[fervent bloom]

They do look nice in containment, though.

[cold mountain]

Ye, I think I have them in two tanks

The sparse arctic one and the second sparse arctic one

I defenetly need to customize them more

but there are so few outside plants…

[fervent bloom]

Then again, the Sparse Arctic doesn't have many plants anyways.

It would require a total overhaul of the alien containment, but having frost anemones on the ceiling would be amazing.

[cold mountain]

At the moment every tank has three creepvines and one cavebush

and I have 5 tanks

[fervent bloom]

I've got a tank with one spotted dockleaf, one ribbon plant, one spiral plant, and the rest filled with antennae plants.

[cold mountain]

Can you please send a pic of it?

[fervent bloom]

I'll work on it, but I'm playing Subnautica right now and my cat is sitting on me, so I can't change the disk.

It's not really themed in terms of fauna.

I've got an arctic peeper, a noot fish, a triops, an arctic ray, a brinewing, and a titan holefish.

[cold mountain]

Fauna and Flora theming in bz is hard

also, cat goes first

[fervent bloom]

(She's actually a shared cat.)

At least you can use a control room to turn out the lights in a containment room if you're simulating a dark biome.

[cold mountain]

My problem is that you not only take away the light but also the whole electricity of the room, it shouldn‘t be a problem with my undergroung containments but it‘s still a reason for me not to use it. Just turning of the lights would be awesome tho

[fervent bloom]

At least it doesn't mess with oxygen... I don't usually have powered installations in the same room.

[cold mountain]

I mean, technicly all five tanks I have are in a seperate rooms that don‘t use electricity (my stairway containment (at the moment lilipad) wouldn‘t look good dark cuz it‘s conected to the rest, the other four containments have a seperate floor) but what biomes are dark? Sparse Arctic? There are no "really" dark biomes in the game (that you can get wildlife/plants from)

[fervent bloom]

That's true. It would be perfect for some of the biomes in Subnautica, though.

[cold mountain]

Basicly all of the lost river, the bloodkelp regions maybe even Bulb Zone

[fervent bloom]

I don't find the former dark, really, but it would be perfect for the ||Blood Kelp Trench||.

[cold mountain]

true

But I also have the rare talent of somehow always timing my expeditions at night time soooo…

[fervent bloom]

I don't know that that is rare. It doesn't help that many biomes are caves, and you can go to sleep at any time.

[cold mountain]

I like the deeper and more cave like biomes more than the upper ones, yes the upper ones have nicer looking flora and fauna but I‘m just saying Tree Cove

There is a reason I‘ve build my base there

[fervent bloom]

Do you have any smaller bases in Below Zero in other locations?

[cold mountain]

Not at the moment no, but I have plans for one in the ||purple vents|| and one in the ocean near ||phi robotics||

[fervent bloom]

Both sound like interesting ideas... I was considering a base in one of the two deepest biomes in the game, but I wasn't sure about that.

[cold mountain]

red or purple?

[fervent bloom]

I was considering both, but the ||Fabricator Caverns|| seemed like an interesting idea.

There are fewer types of fauna there, though.

[cold mountain]

I see your Ideas, but honestly? ||It‘s too dangerous for me down there|| Yes, I‘ve build bases near Ghosts and Reapers and have scanned a seadragon without stasis because I forgot that I had one in my Inventory, but the ||Shadow Leviathans||? They are on a different level

Best Leviathan of both games

[steel shoal]

You can use the terrain for your advantage

[cold mountain]

I get stuck in the terrain because I‘m stupid

[fervent bloom]

I am playing with a 0.2 aggression multiplier, so that could help.

[cold mountain]

Also, I thought I was slick by hiding between two ||large crystal formations|| but this stupid fish just glitched through the terrain grabbing me

[cold mountain]

What does it do? Can you just swim besides a Cheli or Shadow without them aggroing on you?

[fervent bloom]

Surprisingly, this is not the case. It's definitely a subtle difference.

It is easier to do so with some creatures, such as cryptosuchi or brute sharks.

[cold mountain]

What about the squiddy boiz? props for using the correct plural form of Cryptosuchus

[fervent bloom]

They can definitely attack me, but I think it did help me when building a base very near one.

With many of these creatures, it works well to try to stay close behind them to avoid attacks and watch them.

I can get close enough to a brute shark to hear the growls it makes when idle without getting attacked using this method... usually.

[cold mountain]

I see, if you can turn the multiplicator down, can you also tune it up?

[fervent bloom]

Yes, you can increase it, but I'm not sure by how much.

[cold mountain]

I had an Idea, Vegan game with max multiplicator. But then I remebered that I‘m bad at the game

[fervent bloom]

You can also modify the number of hostile creatures that spawn, but only by decreasing it.

[cold mountain]

I don‘t think that works on switch

[fervent bloom]

Why not? Did you try it?

[cold mountain]

No, but it just sounds like something that wouldn‘t work. A comand or something like that

[fervent bloom]

All of this is part of the Custom game mode...

[cold mountain]

I knew that you can turn on vegan mode, but nothing more about this game mode

[fervent bloom]

It also allows you to change the parameters at any time, so you can start the game, play for an hour, then decide that you'd like to get hungry and thirsty, and change that without commands.

[cold mountain]

Sounds Amazing! Need to try it out in the near future!

[fervent bloom]

Also, you could have a game where you get hungry, thirsty, and cold, can be injured, and need resources to create items, but you don't need oxygen or power and have all blueprints at the start of the game.

[cold mountain]

Did a little bit of Kidnapping, one full with seamonkeys the other penglings

[cold mountain]

So basicly Survivalmode but all of the annyoing bits are away?

[fervent bloom]

I suppose so. My point is that you can change a huge number of things to your liking, and create unusual combinations.

[cold mountain]

(Yes, cold Hunger and Thirst are not annyoing to me)

[fervent bloom]

What makes oxygen more annoying than those three?

[cold mountain]

Do you have the slightest Idea how many times I‘ve died in early game in some random cave somehwere and lost half a treasure?

[fervent bloom]

There are a lot of random caves on 4546B...

[cold mountain]

And I‘ve died of drowning in all of them

[fervent bloom]

I love the underwater tunnels that lead to the ||Glacial Basin||, ||Arctic Spire||, or different areas within the former.

A very small base there could be interesting, though it would be highly cramped.

[cold mountain]

The ones where you go into the cave in the first biome but exit in a biome three biomes away? Love those

[fervent bloom]

In general, I like any cave that leads to something completely different, even if you've already been there. For example, it was quite nice to go into the ||Crystal Caves|| through the ||Deep Purple Vents|| and find the exit in the ||Lilypad Islands/Tree Spires||.

[cold mountain]

I actually never used the ||Deep Purple Vents Entrance, always the Lilipad one|| makes sense for me tho, it‘s like 500 meters away

[fervent bloom]

I very rarely exit through the same way I came in...

[cold mountain]

I always do, because my memory and sense of direction is so bad that I can only focus on one entrance: ||The one in Marguerites basement||

[fervent bloom]

I get very lost in that biome... I suppose the Prawn suit arm fragments there are from ||Marguerite||.

[cold mountain]

I guess so, wouldn‘t make sense for Alterra, || Omega Lab || is too far from it

Also, did Marguerite ||build her base|| there before ||Omega Lab|| or after?

[steel shoal]

I think before

[fervent bloom]

I'm guessing that her base preceded it, because Alterra has been on the planet for a year or two and the ||Degasi|| crashed 10 years before.

[steel shoal]

But she also made them using Alterran property

I believe she made small outposts and made them full bases after Alterra go around

Also, I just got to the Crystalline Caverns, making a base, forgot to bring important materials

[cold mountain]

[fervent bloom]

I always do that - I bring plenty of materials for an I-compartment with a window (as in no hatch or power).

How big will it be?

[steel shoal]

I have no lead, no table coral, no crystalline sulfur :C

[fervent bloom]

There's galena there, at least. What do you need crystalline sulfur for?

[steel shoal]

I forgot about my repair tool---

[fervent bloom]

If you're going elsewhere, can you get your other one?

[steel shoal]

I'm just going back home, and bringing whatever I forgot

[cold mountain]

I tried a little bit of Biome matching, keeping this or back to creepvine?

[fervent bloom]

Oh, I really like that. Make sure that you get some triops, discus fish, and/or spinner fish there as well.

[cold mountain]

There are Triops in the Lilipad Islands? I assume ||deep Lilipads||?

[fervent bloom]

I thought you were going for the ||Deep Lilypads Caves||...

[cold mountain]

The entirety of the biome, underground and normal. Thats why there is a lonely Spotted Dockleaf in the backgound

[fervent bloom]

Oh, I suppose that makes sense. I feel like the ||Deep Lilypads Cave|| is part of the ||Lilypad Islands|| in name only, though.

[cold mountain]

They are quite different, but only making the ||caves|| feels weird by not including the rest

for realism there should still be a ||Glowwhale|| in there but it would kinda explode the containment

Part of why I build my base there are the whales, but when I finished there were no whales, so I hatched a few whales

Now there are 12 whales in total swimming around my Base

I just found out two things, one: Lilipaddlers are annyoing, second: I‘ve never actually scanned a Triops

[cold mountain]

Added all the fish two times, now over to the next biomes

[stable fossil]

if i leave sea monkey babies/penglings in alien containment do they grow up? they havent grown up in my inventory and i put them in my seatrucks aquariym where i know grown up theyre too large so they cant grow up in ot, but if i put them in the large containment do they grow up? i just want them to be babies forever

[steel shoal]

They need to be in an Alien Containment Unit, an aquarium isn't enough

[stable fossil]

what do you mean isnt enough? do they die? i just dont want them to grow up i want them to be babies forever and i figured out in aquariums they are babies forever

[steel shoal]

Sorry, I misread

They don't grow up in the aquarium

[stable fossil]

why do spy penglings break só easily? i move for lêss than a minute and they break

[cold mountain]

Regarding the Spy-Pengling, I know that companienshiplevel and the other one rise, but they don‘t for me, and I used that Pengling a lot

Is this some form of glitch, and if yes, how do I make it that it works again?

[cold mountain]

I also put that thing in between other penglings