below-zero-chat

[steel shoal]

Heisenberg's lack of benzene is just as important

[carmine bobcat]

while I'm here is anybody else having trouble with the sea truck dock?

i can't put certain modules

[clever crow]

docking module must be at the end always

[eternal garnet]

some modules created before BZ release will not fit into the tunnel. You can test them by handlebar driving

just destroy, make new

[carmine bobcat]

ah

[eternal garnet]

proably storage and/or fab

[mellow geode]

what modules be those?

[carmine bobcat]

exactly these

[mellow geode]

nvm i typed slower

[eternal garnet]

so you have unique modules! But they look the same

[mellow geode]

wait so new modules were introduced and old modules retired, but work and look exactly the same?

[eternal garnet]

yes, problem?

[mellow geode]

no problem, just wondering why

[eternal garnet]

I suppose only diff. is the collision box

[carmine bobcat]

woah woah waoh DOES THAT MEAN THEY'RE RARE?!

[eternal garnet]

yes yes

[carmine bobcat]

ohhhh yeaaaaah

heahaehahaeahahahahah

I'm finally worth something

[eternal garnet]

Worth a fortune, in useless vogsphere currency

[carmine bobcat]

(i love cats btw)

[regal hinge]

I put off playing BZ for a long time because of what I heard, but I have to admit it's not as bad as I thought

[carmine bobcat]

it's amazing imo

[eternal garnet]

it's beautiful. Lovely atmosphere

• jukebox

[carmine bobcat]

I love the northern-lights-esque thing

wanted to say aurora but that means stuff in the games

[eternal garnet]

Interesting fact: There's aurora in both games

just different kinds

[carmine bobcat]

can't believe there's no hoverfish emoji in this server

[eternal garnet]

[carmine bobcat]

< hoverfish

titan holefish are the derpy derps of the derps

i love subnautica

[fervent bloom]

They are indeed adorable. They're quite an interesting creature in my opinion, considering that they don't really do anything.

[broken badge]

You can get oxygen from the titan holefish

[fervent bloom]

Thank you; I know that, but their behavior is less than complex.

[broken badge]

They just kinda chill and float along xD

[fervent bloom]

How do you feel about eye jellies?

[mellow geode]

creepy af

[broken badge]

Me? They’re annoying

[mellow geode]

i wanna stab their eyes

but we don't have a stabbing motion

[fervent bloom]

I'm glad they exist, but the bubbling sound gets very annoying when I'm in my Seatruck at the ||Phi Robotics|| dock.

[broken badge]

There’s so many near the dock over by Phi, I ram them with the truck and kill most of them by it so they’ll leave me alone and I don’t have to look at them lol
And I rarely kill anything
Other than the lilypaddlers which I’m worried will trigger a migraine, when building in lilypads, but now with custom game options I just turn them off (YAY!)

[mellow geode]

i didn't mean kill them

i just wanna stab their eyes

[broken badge]

And yes the bubbling sound bothers me, I’m very sensitive to sounds like that.
Another one that gets bothersome for me is the ghost rays in the ||cove tree area|| in Subnautica

[carmine bobcat]

How do I go there

[mellow geode]

i have a mental image of them swimming away squinting and screaming

[fervent bloom]

I try not to kill anything, if possible. I save every few minutes and quit the game if I run into a feather fish or the like.

[broken badge]

Eh, the jellies, it’s not like there’s not hundreds more of them so I don’t worry about it

I’m only clearing the small area around the dock

[fervent bloom]

They respawn, too, I believe.

[mellow geode]

but seriously tho, don't you feel like poking them in the eye?

just to see if they have eyelids

[fervent bloom]

I think the bell/domed transparent section is essentially the eyelid.

[carmine bobcat]

Does anyone know how to go there

[fervent bloom]

I may be wrong, but I think that's the one in ||Koppa Mining Site||.

[carmine bobcat]

Thanks

[broken badge]

There was some weird bug with the jellies I forget now what it was, and don’t have access anymore to the ticket software to see what it was, something about they damaged you when they weren’t supposed to. But it got fixed, best I recall

[fervent bloom]

I'm not familiar with that bug, but I hadn't played Below Zero until this August.

[broken badge]

I think that’s the mine as well. There’s two entrances. As you’re following the crevices along, see if you can spot some light sticks to point you in the right direction. One entrance is obvious with some partly open doors to the mine, the other is through a series of caves (but be careful of some seriously hot spewing vents)

A lot of things in this game use light sticks to point you towards important locations

[fervent bloom]

Imagine if you could pick them all up in the way you can with beacons you find.

[carmine bobcat]

Ty

I almost burned myself alive

[broken badge]

One of those vents gets up to triple digits

[fervent bloom]

I've done the same, except the almost part doesn't always apply.

[carmine bobcat]

Soo is the entrance of the thing in the biome with the spiky rocks thingies with those ugly sharks

[mellow geode]

the legendary ||255c devil's anus||

also known as a collapsing neutron star inside of an Einstein-Rosen bridge

[fervent bloom]

Yes, that's it. Like Sh4dow Ech0 said, you can go through either the doors, or the tunnels. Either way, it's entered through the Thermal Spires.

[broken badge]

The cryptosuchus, and yes in thermal spires that’s surrounding delta island. Koppa is southwest of the island (you should’ve been to the island and scanned a map of the facilities hanging on the wall of one of the quarters there)
While not the exact copy of the map in game, this one is close enough
Koppa is the dark orange one, southwest of the island Delta (yellow, with the triangle)

[carmine bobcat]

Oooh cooll thanks

[broken badge]

Np, like I said you get almost the exact same map at Delta

[mellow geode]

actually, why is it koppa and not kappa, as well as zero and not zeta? everything else is according to the greek alphabet

[carmine bobcat]

Yeah I should have the map somewhere in my ipad thingy

[broken badge]

Koppa is part of the Greek alphabet it’s just not used in modern Greek is what I read about it. I’ve no idea about the zeta vs zero thing, maybe with the game name idk tbh
Why go with Greek nomenclature at all tbh If you’re doing that I would’ve stuck with Alpha, Beta, Delta and Kappa, ones people have most used in schooling, Phi isn’t that commonly used and as mentioned Koppa isn’t used in modern Greek at all afaik

[mellow geode]

you'd think alterra would be somewhat consistent in their naming

[broken badge]

Actually it would be alpha, beta, gamma, delta, epsilon (if going in order) but still, that’s better than using Koppa and Phi I think

Still, I’m guessing not a lot of folks have seen Greek letters in use unless they’ve done higher maths, physics, or such

[mellow geode]

i didn't know they were greek until i googled

[carmine bobcat]

Um..I still can't find anything

I mean... Like..

The entrance

[keen timber]

phil robotics

[carmine bobcat]

Unhhhhfhejwjidowo do I need to look for light thingies

[keen timber]

ong

[mellow geode]

who's phil

[carmine bobcat]

All i see is..rocks

Big rocks

And fire

[fervent bloom]

There's an entrance to the tunnel system just below ||Delta Station Dock||. Keep following it down; you're on the right track if you find oxygen plants.

[mellow geode]

tbh it always gives me anxiety trying to get to koppa via the hot springs route, cos i can never remember the way 😂

[broken badge]

I always go through the doorways. But if you do try to force the truck cabin through, be sure to save first, since it’s not really meant to go in that way, just in case it were to get stuck😬 And don’t try to take anything but the cabin through is my recommendation if you try it

[carmine bobcat]

I found an artifact I wasn't even looking for, i didn't even have it pinged

Well, good I guess but i still can't find the other one 😭

Wait..is it..that location with the slightly open doors and that big deep hole?

[fervent bloom]

Yes, that's definitely it.

[fervent bloom]

I saved before this occurred, but I did get stuck in it once.

[carmine bobcat]

I went there some time ago for some other reason i forgot..I didn't think there was anything more to get i didn't know there was an artifact

But anyway, I still forgot the location

[carmine bobcat]

Can i force the truck trough the doors of the mining site?

[mellow geode]

nope

[knotty coyote]

I just finished subnautica below zeroo!! omg am so happyy

[eternal garnet]

[fervent bloom]

You need to slide it sideways to get through, and only the cabin fits.

[wide dawn]

I'm making my big base in the lilypad islands

[chrome cedar]

Just the truck, no modules. Go through sideways, and wiggle it a lot. Often not worth the effort.

[fervent bloom]

What part of the biome are you building in? There are several different unique areas for a base (i.e. the seabed, the lilypad tops, the islands themselves...)

[wide dawn]

Its mostly on a lilypad

But you enter via a t compartment

In the water

Its not complete, I just deconstructed my old base so I'm still building and moving in

[fervent bloom]

Well, I hope it turns out well. Is it really supposed to be as hard to get up on the lilypads as it is?

[wide dawn]

No

Its hard to get up by jumping but you can just make vertical compartments

[fervent bloom]

The most reliable method, I've found, is to climb onto one of the small satellite lilypads and walk along the stem; if you're at the surface and using the Seaglide, it's also possible, though difficult.

[sacred jungle]

Guys

The sattelite that you see when you start a new save, is that the same one as the crashed one on the || iceberg || ?

[fervent bloom]

Actually, the satellite in orbit is the Vesper, a remnant from the old story. (I think this is true.)

[sacred jungle]

What is the vesper. Was it visible in subnautica?

[bold monolith]

The Vesper was a satellite from Alterra where your ||not so dead|| sister used to be.

[sacred jungle]

And the crashed sattelite is just an alien artefact?

[bold monolith]

Yes.

[sacred jungle]

So there was a different story?

[bold monolith]

It's green and stuff.

[sacred jungle]

Thats cool. Idk if its possible to see the vesper in the sky

[bold monolith]

When it was an important part of the story you could see it.

[sacred jungle]

Ok

How would the alien sattelite have crashed? It looks like it crashed into the iceberg

[fervent bloom]

Perhaps it simply exceeded its operative lifetime. There are also large meteor storms on this part of the planet.

[regal hinge]

when I stop piloting the sea truck, sometimes I unboard entirely and other times I just stop piloting. is there an input for each?

[bold monolith]

If you have modules, it depends on your angle.

[sacred jungle]

That seems logical

[regal hinge]

yes, I have modules. I always press E

[sacred jungle]

If you seatruck is at an flat-ish angle you will just stand up, if its a steep-ish angle you exit automaticalyy

[steel shoal]

It's been over 1 000 years since everyone died

[lapis wind]

Fish game but ice isnscary

[sacred jungle]

I havent played below zero in months. Im gonna do a new playthrough soon so my knowledge is not the best. I wanna do a run where im only living in my seatruck

[steel shoal]

Oh, this info is not from Below Zero

[regal hinge]

thank you

[fervent bloom]

Are you allowed to have growbeds?

[sacred jungle]

Oh

Btw is it possible to build small things in seetruk

[steel shoal]

No

Unfortunately, no salad farm in Sea Truck

[sacred jungle]

But like smoll plants and pots? Or a locker?

[regal hinge]

Why does this game hate lead?

[sacred jungle]

Can relate

But idk why the game does hate lead

[regal hinge]

dying in my base or sea truck is completely harmless, right?

[wide dawn]

Yeah I think

The moment you get in a base or seatruck you're stuff is saved

[tacit comet]

Yup!

You might respawn with less food/water but you won’t lose items or anything

[chrome cedar]

I’ve got lockers of the stuff I haven’t used yet…

[tacit comet]

You’re collecting like, every mineral though

You are an outlier.

[chrome cedar]

Survival of the fittest, baby.

Made plenty of enameled glass and lots of seatruck modules already. Not sure what I’ll do with the excess yet.

[tacit comet]

Feed it to the trash can?

[chrome cedar]

[tacit comet]

Didn’t one of you to that?

[chrome cedar]

I don’t believe in the trash can. I have enough problems with materials sinking into the planet’s core…

[next current]

But it's the trash can!

[chrome cedar]

Can you put the trash can in another trash can?

[next current]

You can put the materials to make a trash can into a trash can.

That's close enough.

[chrome cedar]

Nope. I want to see a trash can in my trash can. I want to back into it with my Seatruck and dent it a bit, give it that lived in look. I want to put keep calm kitty stickers on the side to give it that personalized touch.

[fervent bloom]

I'm going to get the MK 3 Seatruck depth upgrade.

[steel shoal]

No more freediving, it seems

[fervent bloom]

Should I not build it? I still like freediving for the sake of agility and not having to worry about hitting/killing fish.

[steel shoal]

I'm just playing, please do craft it

You can take your aquarium module to deeper areas

[fervent bloom]

I thought you might be, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be funner to go without it. I don't have an aquarium module, because I like having a faster and less unwieldy Seatruck, but perhaps I should make it.

I don't really like permanently capturing wild animals or releasing them in different biomes, so it's problematic, but it would be a fantastic mobile creature observatory will all of that glass.

[steel shoal]

I don't know how does the aquarium module work, exactly

I don't know if actual fish from the biome get inside or if it spawns new ones

You can put your own fish there, though, to stop them from stealing wild fish. Fill it up with baby seamonkeys

[fervent bloom]

That's a good question, actually. I assume you've built it. I know that it can capture penglings, so it might capture fish from the environment.

[steel shoal]

I've built it and it looks gorgeous

I love the glass floor and walls and everything

[fervent bloom]

I suppose one could drop a fish near a powered one and see what happens to it. I like the idea of filling it up with my own creatures. I've never placed a sea monkey or pengling inside an aquarium, though some of the latter have gotten captured in a past game.

What fish do you have in yours, and which do you think look best?

[steel shoal]

I currently have 1 singular peeper

[fervent bloom]

I like triops (in general and specifically in aquariums) and have four in captivity. Three are in aquariums, two of which live together, and one's in my ACU.

[steel shoal]

They taste bad

[chrome cedar]

I’ve only built it once, my assumption was that it would grab passing fish somehow like the grav ball does, but I never watched it from the outside to see. That would be a fun experiment to try.

[fervent bloom]

I would never eat one! Based purely on the taste description, I would enjoy eating a cured spinner fish.

[fervent bloom]

I think I will try it and share my results. I've always thought that it transferred fish inside rather than spawning new ones, but I could very well be wrong.

[chrome cedar]

Wiki claims it captures fish that get too close. I’d get a bunch of fish and then release them around the module from the outside and watch what happens.

[fervent bloom]

That seems like a simple but effective plan. I will do so when I get a chance.

[chrome cedar]

I’m traveling tomorrow and will have some time to kill at the airport. Will be good to compare notes.

[fervent bloom]

In #off-topic , where are you traveling?

[chrome cedar]

Since I’m playing Below Zero, it’s still on topic. LoL. Traveling from Austin to New Orleans, then getting on a cruise ship for two weeks. Nothing more fun than playing Subnautica while on the ocean…

[fervent bloom]

I wonder why noot fish can't be placed in aquariums. They don't seem larger than a pengling, and it's not because they're carnivores (symbiotes can fit).

[chrome cedar]

I’m not sure about aquariums, but you can put them in the alien containments?

In inventory they’re only a 1x1 slot.

[fervent bloom]

An alien containment unit can definitely accommodate them, but they can't be placed in an aquarium.

[chrome cedar]

Very curious… guessing they overlooked that at some point when programming what could transfer and what couldn’t.

[fervent bloom]

I would love to be able to put rockgrubs in, but that doesn't work either.

[chrome cedar]

They would have looked cool there. Probably worth a bug report just in case we see an update down the road.

[fervent bloom]

I've always thought it was intentional; can rockgrubs be placed in aquariums in Subnautica?

In other aquarium/ACU-related issues, I've had issues with symbiotes wriggling out of my hand as I take them out of containment and swimming around in my base walls.

[chrome cedar]

Not sure on that, I don’t build aquariums often. You know my huge bases, that’s mostly alien containments on the inside. 😎

[fervent bloom]

What better use could there be for such a large space? While I would pick an alien containment over an aquarium, I like having aquariums as options as well. I've got one in my bedroom in my Twisty Bridges base.

[chrome cedar]

Totally agree.

[fervent bloom]

I still like having fish that can fit inside an aquarium in the larger tank, though.

[lime phoenix]

Hmm Chelicerate I Must Kill

[chrome cedar]

He just wants hugs…

[keen wind]

anyone know of a source of lead ive been all over this frozen hell scape and cant find any deposit or not

[steel stream]

No drillable lead available

[keen wind]

best spot then?

[high kernel]

Can anyone tell me if those things are dangerous?

[mellow geode]

looks like glow whales, should be fine

you can ride them

[knotty coyote]

Yep its fine

[high kernel]

Oh okay ty

WAIT

Since when can u merge sea trucks?

What do i need to merge them?

[mellow geode]

you can connect modules behind your truck

[high kernel]

Oh

[mellow geode]

and stack the modules

the more you stack the slower the truck becomes

[high kernel]

Do i need to find the blueprint for the module thing?

[mellow geode]

there are fragments for each type of module in various places

[high kernel]

Intresting

Ty for letting me know

[lapis wind]

Cold fish alien game but scary

[chilly notch]

They made it hard to find lead >:/

I cant find alot of lead

[bold monolith]

Use a scanner room.

[steel stream]

But scan for galena outcrops and not lead (probably won't even have lead as an option)

[west mountain]

Most lead can be found in: Twisty bridges, Thermal spires and thermal spires underground vulcanos and cave systems under delta island. Also a lot is on the underside of the floating lilypad rocks. Then further down in ||crystal cavern|| but a bit tricky to collect because... reasons. But there is also a good amount in the arctic shallows. But using either the handheld mineral detector or a scanner room significantly improves the chances of finding them. Also when going for a gathering run, using the resource highlight option in the menu helps to located resources, especially the galena outcrop is notoriously "invisible" because it blends in soooo well.

[regal hinge]

this may be beyond the scope of the channel, but any ideas on how to draw a map of my own of the game?

without using anything that's not in-game. At the moment I'm measuring the distance of the borders from my drop pod

[steel shoal]

Not sure if it's possible to draw accurate maps without some programs. You can use the Delta Island map, but that won't help with caves/underwater biomes

[regal hinge]

I'm ok if it's not that accurate. I just want to know where the major areas are.

[steel shoal]

You can use the Delta Island map as a base

It's accurate and the island is almost in the middle of the map

[regal hinge]

hmmm

I'll go back to measuring borders

[sour plover]

Dude

I touched some algae thing and then I died

it didn't even tell me it could kill me

[clear venture]

do yall also have it too that the ||thumper ||is sometimes just glued to your hand?

[carmine bobcat]

team Potato or team Augstrobite?

I'm on team Potato

(Auggie counts as Augstrobite)

[mellow geode]

team talk about BZ

[steel shoal]

I like Chinese Potatoes, but I don't know what's that other word

[carmine bobcat]

the cat

the name of the cat

[mellow geode]

to off topic you go then

[carmine bobcat]

isn't it Below Zero?

[mellow geode]

no cats in bz

afaik

[steel shoal]

That's cap

Potato is a good kitty

[carmine bobcat]

sam's cat

[mellow geode]

well no live cats

[steel shoal]

HE'S DEAD??

[carmine bobcat]

WHAT

[mellow geode]

sam's cat is neither alive nor dead

because we have no idea what happened or will happen

[carmine bobcat]

the wiki says he's alive so that's good enough for me

[steel shoal]

Samödinger's cat

[carmine bobcat]

that's a really bad pun :3

SHROBINGER

[steel shoal]

Thank you

[mellow geode]

all we know that is that cat's not on 4546b

[carmine bobcat]

do we?

[mellow geode]

if it were, did you think that the devs wouldn't have coded some sort of interaction with it?

[carmine bobcat]

oh my god I need a cat in subnautica 3

wasn't Sam with Potato when she was living on 4546b?

[mellow geode]

subnautica x stray

[carmine bobcat]

diver kitty

[mellow geode]

there is no evidence of the spud being on 4546b

[carmine bobcat]

there's no evidence he wasn't

[mellow geode]

we aren't arguing logical fallacies here

[carmine bobcat]

all i know Potato is a better name than Auggie

do mods have permissions to add emojis?

I need a hoverfish emoji if there's space

[steel shoal]

Well, I think we should leave space for better future emotes

[carmine bobcat]

nuh uh

hoverfish

[celest aspen]

team Augstrobite

such a funky name for a gatito

[mellow geode]

what if
potato actually a flerken

[carmine bobcat]

The guy said that he found a body part or sm but i didn't get anything pinged

[next current]

Potato is a good name for cats.

[fervent bloom]

Is there a reasoning behind the name Augstrobite/Augie?

[eternal garnet]

Google that and Potato appears

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/0806cda0-5d21-46ed-92fd-f8672568a5cb/scale-to-width/755

[next current]

Hang in there is better, sorry.

[carmine bobcat]

Can the prawn suit get through the doors of the koppa mining site

[chrome cedar]

Yes, but it’s a tight fit and you need to wiggle sideways.

[carmine bobcat]

Cool thanks

[next current]

Uhhh the Prawn easily fits in between the doors. It's the Seatruck that you need to worry about.

[eternal garnet]

that sounds like the instructions for getting the truck in

You can get in, sideways, top of the door

No modules

[next current]

The Mining Site is very Modulen't.

[chrome cedar]

I usually had to wiggle my prawn. You can’t walk straight through?

[carmine bobcat]

im stealing that and making it right

[regal hinge]

where are my coordinates?

[eternal garnet]

camera world pos. Never mind the decimals

[regal hinge]

ok. is this a good place for my base?

[eternal garnet]

You are asking us to interpret coords

[regal hinge]

Um, Twisty Bridges Shallow?

[eternal garnet]

Doubtful. Maybe the southern part where it's deeper and closer to world center. Make sure theres a lot of room to grow

the pod is very North

[regal hinge]

Yeah, I tried to go nearer to the deeper end

[eternal garnet]

south end is fine, near delta

[regal hinge]

👍

[fervent bloom]

It would appear that the Seatruck aquarium module does indeed remove fish from the environment to place them inside the tank.

[regal hinge]

that's cool.

two questions (please be as non-spoilery as possible); 1) does the truck become noticeably sluggish after installing the 3rd module? It's what I've noticed.

2. Is there any point to building the moonpool once I get the seatruck dock? or is it just for the vehicle upgrade console?

[sacred jungle]

I realised to do a run where i only live in my seatruck i need all the seatruck fragments...

[sacred jungle]

1)The more modules you add, the slower it gets, you can alter it a bit by installing the horsepower upgrade.
2) Pretty much, the seatruck dock is for the seatruck with multiple modules imo

[eternal garnet]

with the horsepower upgrade, you get full speed up to 3 modules

[sacred jungle]

Does it stack?

[neat fern]

I got of the || Snowfox || and now i cannot get on it gain neither can i enter a base or a || Seatruck ||

[fervent bloom]

Well, since you get the two together, the moonpool is really more for the Prawn suit.

[steel shoal]

Nop

I dislike how the description doesn't help at all

[neat fern]

do you mean me

[chrome cedar]

Did the fish just disappear from outside or was there some mechanism you observed? A beam or something?

[steel shoal]

No I mean the Seatruck Horsepower Upgrade description being "Seatruck horsepower upgrade"

[neat fern]

ok

[steel shoal]

It gives 0 clarification on what it does

[regal hinge]

@sacred jungle @fervent bloom thanks for the answers!

[fervent bloom]

The fish vanishes with a clicking noise. I believe the concept is that they are sucked in with a vacuum.

[chrome cedar]

Nice

Sea Vac

[steel shoal]

Very awful and mean and cruel

I'll fill it with 16 baby seamonkeys to prevent fish from getting kidnapped

[chrome cedar]

Where ya sealing those babies from? Monster…

[sacred jungle]

: (

[steel shoal]

I bred them myself, and released the adult monkeys that hatched from the eggs I stole

[fervent bloom]

I like hatching them, marking the nest with a beacon, and releasing them. There's one nest with two adult sea monkeys that live near it, so I like to think of them as the parents.

[sacred jungle]

But the seamonke babies are the cutest things ever

[steel shoal]

Correct

I'll take them everywhere with me

[sacred jungle]

✨✨

[fervent bloom]

They're faster than I thought they would be, and certainly adorable.

[sacred jungle]

Isnt it the first animal that has a "Baby" stage

[fervent bloom]

What do you mean? There are penglings and baby/juvenile snow stalkers.

[sacred jungle]

Like i dont remember any other animal not looking like its 'Parent' when hatched

[steel shoal]

Eyejelly eggs look like babies

[carmine bobcat]

the

sea emperor

[sacred jungle]

Small Snow stalkers just look like big snow stalkers but snall

Nothing special imo exept the interaction and how cute they are

[carmine bobcat]

oh I mean i guess they look pretty simillar then nvm

[sacred jungle]

But my point is that baby sea monkeys dont look a lot like their big versions

[fervent bloom]

The PDA does point out the baby sea monkeys are defenseless, unlike many baby creatures on 4546B.

[west mountain]

Thats why they look so adorable in the aquarium

[fervent bloom]

I like how there are three sea monkey scans that go together: the baby, the nest, and the adult.

[carmine bobcat]

baby sea monkeys are actually amazing

[fervent bloom]

This is true!

[carmine bobcat]

slow, stupid and delicious

[sacred jungle]

Didnt know the babies had a seperate scan

[fervent bloom]

Unfortunately, there's no image to go with it, but it's still nice to have.

[sacred jungle]

Ok

[fervent bloom]

I've never put a sea monkey baby in an aquarium, unfortunately. I should at the next opportunity.

[carmine bobcat]

how rare are the eggs?

I can never find them

[fervent bloom]

There are quite a few in various sea monkey nests. However, they're only in nests in the Arctic Kelp Caves; nests in the ||Lilypads Crevice|| never have them.

[carmine bobcat]

ok

do they respawn?

[fervent bloom]

No, there are a limited number of eggs in the nests. However, if you get two, you can breed sea monkeys and thus get a theoretically infinite number.

[carmine bobcat]

oh thanks

didn't know that

[fervent bloom]

The same can be done with any other creature that can be picked up or has eggs, other than ||trivalves||.

[carmine bobcat]

cool

[regal hinge]

I'm getting a real weird bug. I tried piloting the seatruck and everything is unresponsive. I can see the chair sloooooowly unfolding

I can't "unstuck" myself either

back to normal now

dammit, stuck again. I tried exiting the truck now I'm swimming in place inside the truck. Any idea what's causing this?

[fervent bloom]

I do not, unfortunately. Can you try reloading the game?

[regal hinge]

I can quit, but I'd rather not lose what I've built

[neat fern]

i got a problem like this too

[carmine bobcat]

how'd you fix it for the first time?

[neat fern]

i got of the || snowfox || and now i cannot enter a building or my seatruck

[fervent bloom]

So, you can't save your game?

[regal hinge]

I'm gonna try saving and reloading

[carmine bobcat]

oh yeah that happened to me

[neat fern]

i didn´t fixed it

[regal hinge]

I just waited

[carmine bobcat]

it happened to me so i closed the game and opened it again

[regal hinge]

what's up with the blank wall in the fabricator module of the sea truck?

[fervent bloom]

A window there would be nice.

[mellow geode]

"this wall is intentionally left blank"

[neat fern]

i need help

[mellow geode]

with what

[neat fern]

after i got of my || snowfox || i couldn´t enter bases

[mellow geode]

hmm

not a bug i'm aware of

[neat fern]

or the seatruck

i want to get it fixed because it happend in my 13 hour world

[mellow geode]

pc or console?

[neat fern]

pc

and without mods

[mellow geode]

steam?

[neat fern]

yes

[mellow geode]

for safety, make a copy of your game save, then save, quit, exit the game, launch again and load in

[neat fern]

ok

it is still loading

woooooooo it works tysm

[fervent bloom]

Which creature do you think has the best egg design compared to the adult?

Also, I got hypnotized by a lily paddler while I was ensnared by a spikey trap.

[west mountain]

I like the pinnacardi egg very much and the lilypaddler one too.

[west mountain]

Lilypaddler, the only way to get high in BZ

[fervent bloom]

I like the pinnacarid egg as well; I enjoy how smooth it looks.

The eye jelly's egg is unique, if not difficult to identify without hatching it.

[steel shoal]

I don't quite understand the connection to drugs, but okay

[steel shoal]

I like how they spin around, they're very cute

[fervent bloom]

I like the rock puncher egg as well; it blends into the terrain, which is more realistic than one that glows and/or has stripes.

[steel shoal]

Pengwing eggs are great

[fervent bloom]

I originally thought brinewing eggs belonged to pengwings.

[west mountain]

Guess we will list all the eggs in the end. Do trivalve eggs count also? They are adorable as eggs too.

[fervent bloom]

I think so; I wouldn't mind if they were less obviously a special, adorable creature, but the eggs are very nice.

[steel shoal]

I don't like Bruteshark eggs, so boring...

I would love if they had some sort of exoskeleton like their heads do

[carmine bobcat]

hiii

[fervent bloom]

They're too similar to pinnacarid eggs in my opinion.

I like that the squidshark egg somewhat resembles the egg cases of bullhead sharks...

[steel shoal]

I agree

[steel shoal]

Those bottom feeder eggs, such as bullheads, nurse, etc, are all very similar

[fervent bloom]

Bullhead shark eggs have unique ridges, though.

I suppose it's a good example of convergent evolution, but I could be wrong.

[steel shoal]

Wait

forget about nurse shark

[carmine bobcat]

scariest creature in your opinion?

IMO it's the ||squid shark||

just so ugly

it's scary

[fervent bloom]

I consider the squidshark sleek, majestic, and intriguing. I would say that the ||ice worm|| is the scariest.

[chrome cedar]

Many eggs in the wild will tend to camouflage into the environment as a survival trait.

[fervent bloom]

That's a good strategy, and one that often is not exhibited on 4546B.

[chrome cedar]

Well, it’s a game, so that’s the trade off. But in the real world it’s all about what predators are about that might want to eat the eggs. If those aren’t an issue, then eggs can be more colorful and unique.

[fervent bloom]

Good point; I didn't mean to be critical of the game. I was just noticing that that was not one of the most realistic parts.

[chrome cedar]

True enough. But overall the game does a great job at presenting a fairly realistic environment. Or at least what we might imagine as being realistic, for an alien world.

[fervent bloom]

I would agree, especially in Below Zero.

I know we were talking about the noot fish yesterday; I was experimenting with console commands and spikey traps, and I learned two things. Firstly, spikey traps are horrifying. Secondly, they are capable of catching and eating noot fish, unlike most small fish.

I think it might be intentional that noot fish cannot fit in aquariums, since they have at least one other characteristic that is similar to those of larger creatures.

[chrome cedar]

That they eat the smaller ones?

[fervent bloom]

No, spikey traps can eat noot fish, but they don't bother most small fish.

[chrome cedar]

I still think it might be an oversight. Another one is if you craft another antidote, I don’t think you can drop it, Al you can do is put it in a locker or the trash can. That was actually the only time I needed to make one, then I deconstructed it. LoL

[chrome cedar]

Guess the small ones aren’t worth the bother.

[fervent bloom]

I like the trash can as decoration, and it is useful sometimes.

[chrome cedar]

Could have been interesting to have some spikey traps around the base.

[fervent bloom]

Apparently spikey traps can eat pengwings, eye jellies, pinnacarids, arctic rays, brinewings, sea monkeys, and lily paddlers.

[chrome cedar]

They do have an appetite…

[regal hinge]

feeding yourself in this game is quite a chore

I also find I'm much less "guided" than in the first game, which kind of makes things overwhelming

[fervent bloom]

I always keep fevered peppers and shrub nuts in my base.

What point are you at in the game?

[west mountain]

And hopefully preston plants

[fervent bloom]

I have those in some growbeds on the surface, actually.

[west mountain]

They should be next to the fevered peppers and the fabricator

[regal hinge]

I have like 3 or 4 alien markers on my beacon/radar

[fervent bloom]

Do you find it harder to catch fish than in Subnautica?

I actually like the more open-format approach, but that's just my preference.

[chrome cedar]

That’s a good start. But a number of the artifacts won’t get markers, and other later game things won’t have a marker either. Exploration is a big part of the gameplay.

Once you find the grav trap fragments fish are easy to catch.

[fervent bloom]

Have any of you done a vegan playthrough? I'm enjoying it.

[chrome cedar]

And once you start growing plants you do t have to worry about fish.

[west mountain]

Once you get the spicy fruit salad, no fish needed anymore.

[chrome cedar]

I haven’t tried the vegan mode yet, I’m sure it’s a challenge.

[regal hinge]

yeah, that's what I noticed. but I find the open-format more overwhelming and stressful. markers take some time to travel to and you still have no idea if they're reachable at the moment or not. you may even end up looking for the entrance or access beforehand, too.

[west mountain]

No, you get anemone hearts and scrub nuts quite from the start, And there is always creep vine 🙂

[regal hinge]

actually I feel liek the fish are easier and slower to catch. it's just that the character gets hungry and thirsty so often. it's the reason why on my 2nd playthrough of the first game I turned hunger/thirst off. It feel more inconvenient and frustrating than anything else

[chrome cedar]

Most of the markers will be in caves that need a sideways path to reach. You just need to get close the. Look around for a path.

The map on the seaglide can be a big help there.

[regal hinge]

true

[fervent bloom]

It's not as difficult as in Subnautica, and even there it is possible. Frost anemone hearts are a great early-game food and water source, though they cannot be grown so they're less convenient once you're exploring further.

[west mountain]

Definitely slower and easier at night, they are almost asleep

[fervent bloom]

I get much of my food from fevered peppers, though if you need a lot quickly at your base, antennae fruit give you 20.

[regal hinge]

can old or rotten plants still be planted?

[west mountain]

Yes

[fervent bloom]

Luckily, they can be. That's how I got Chinese potatoes.

[regal hinge]

reminds me of something. I tried planting stuff, but I couldn't get a foundation high enough above sea. Ideas?

[regal hinge]

This is kind of why I like playing the game blind. I just found the chinese potatoes and it was a nice surprise : )

[fervent bloom]

Ice floes can work well for that, depending on where you are. You can build directly on them, or you can put a foundation there.

[chrome cedar]

The foundation generally needs to be able to reach the ocean floor, but if you can build a base piece then you can build other pieces, like a foundation, higher up as long as they are close enough to the other pieces.

And you can then deconstruct the lower pieces if you don’t need them.

[fervent bloom]

I'm not sure, but I think I was able to build a foundation on some ice.

[regal hinge]

I'm just curious if I'm missing something, but I have yet to find magnetite at all. Is that normal?

[fervent bloom]

It's not an easy thing to find; however, the ||Glacial Basin|| is full of magnetite veins.

The ||Deep Lilypads Cave|| also has some.

[regal hinge]

mmm, I'm not sure I want to click those. But it's normal not to find them so far right?

[fervent bloom]

What's the deepest biome that you've been to, and have you done any land exploration?

Regardless, it's definitely not something that should be easy to find.

[regal hinge]

I'm very lost in this game, lol. For land, I did find the Phi Robotics Land pad. But I got so lost in that labyrinth that I left it. In terms of depth? I did find a very small volcanic biome. Near some underwater Phi Robotics base. (it was underground and the gates had hte Phi symbol)

[fervent bloom]

In that case, you could be close to magnetite. Also, it sounds like you found the entrance to the ||Koppa Mining Site||.

[regal hinge]

Is that the one with the gates connected to rails and the rock punchers?

[steel shoal]

Reading the PDA helps a lot, I'd recommend it to avoid getting lost in the story and map

[fervent bloom]

That would be the location.

[fervent bloom]

Is it possible to pick up hatched squidsharks after release?

[eternal garnet]

no

[fervent bloom]

That's good to know... if I raise them, I'll wait for them to breed and lay two more eggs.

Is there any logic behind which creatures you can and cannot pick up? Brinewings are released forever, yet you can grab a brute shark or glow whale.

[chrome cedar]

Yes, but no magnetite there.

There is almost no magnetite early in the game. I’m convinced that I found it once early on but never found it again since. And you only need to find one to make the scanner HUD, after that it’s easy to find more if it’s around.

[keen flint]

(The person who made below zero music for those who don't know)

[tacit comet]

Yoooo

He was my #3.

[chrome cedar]

He’s my most listened to this year, and I didn’t even know his name…

[tacit comet]

Really?

Blasphemy

[chrome cedar]

Not my fault he didn’t have a PDA entry…

[carmine bobcat]

Will i survive the aurora?

[tacit comet]

Yes, as long as you don't go behind it.

[carmine bobcat]

I tried extinquishing fire that i wasnt supposed to touch and went from 80 health to 0 in 1 second

I got ||prawn and neptune rocket tho so||

Just lost my seamoth but just in case i took all my upgrades out of it

[tacit comet]

Smart

[neat fern]

is it true that you can play custom songs in subnatica below zero

[mellow geode]

yes

only on pc tho, i don't think you can do that on console

[neat fern]

yeah now i can hear coconut song 24/7 before i go insane

[sacred jungle]

That still makes me sadge. I wanna listen to gorrilaz on console in the game D:

[neat fern]

cococococococo nut

[cinder estuary]

Guys my game forgot to render in the water lol.

[bold monolith]

Explain please.

You either disabled the fog or you're walking on the ground.

In both cases, it isn't really what you said.

[cinder estuary]

I logged back in, left the alien lair in the twisty bridges, got confused as to why I wasn't ascending, climbed out of my prawn suit and proceeded to fall to my death in the deep twisty bridges

And now I'm trying to climb out of the twisty bridges via hope and weird hops

[bold monolith]

Didn't you say you died?

[cinder estuary]

I reloaded lol still no water

[bold monolith]

I see. Can you go back into the sanctuary?

[cinder estuary]

I figured dying wasn't gonna fix the water so I reloaded

...I uh...fell into the deep twisty bridges so I'm gonna need a bit lmao

[bold monolith]

You could use the unstuck button but it won't save your Prawn Suit.

You'll swim though.

[cinder estuary]

Does that work??

[bold monolith]

It should.

You can press the button multiple times.

[cinder estuary]

AYO thanks

And I managed to get back to my suit, thanks

Uh oh

Uh oh.

[bold monolith]

Exiting the Prawn Suit will bring you back to walking.

I assume it's why you react like that.

[cinder estuary]

This makes me sad

[bold monolith]

You have to find a way to go back in the sanctuary with the prawn suit.

[cinder estuary]

If I swim, and save then reload will that save it

[bold monolith]

The Prawn Suit has a specific state that makes it "on land".

You have two solutions. The first one is to enter the sanctuary again with it.

The second is, if your game is on PC, to give me your save file.

The second solution might be a tiny bit technical.

[cinder estuary]

😭 I'm on xbox

[bold monolith]

I see.

[cinder estuary]

If I were on pc I'd just use the cheat bar to move my prawnsuit back to base and go from there lol

[bold monolith]

No command to move a prawn suit.

Also, you can use commands on xbox.

You could spawn another one.

But if you manage to go back to the sanctuary with it, it will be fixed.

It might be possible with jet jump upgrade and grapple.

[cinder estuary]

I'd have to go back to base to get the grapple

I armed myself for mining and shooting at naughty leviathans

[steel shoal]

Are you saying you brought a torpedo arm instead of the grapple?

[cinder estuary]

Let's just say I wasn't expecting all my water to say c'est la vie, ya know?

[bold monolith]

The water is a lie.

The game gives you different motor mode state depending on your Y axis. There is no "water" per se.

So to be able to walk inside something that is below 0 in the Y axis, the game sets a parameter on your character / vehicle.

To give you another motor mode.

[cinder estuary]

....oh no

[bold monolith]

The trigger for that is at the alien entrances.

[cinder estuary]

Guys I don't have the recipe for the grappling arm

[bold monolith]

Maybe you can reach the entrance without grappling.

[cinder estuary]

I couldn't unfortunately

[bold monolith]

You have a Seatruck? Try to use it as a bridge. :þ

[cinder estuary]

...do you think I'd be able to carry the suit on top

[steel shoal]

The grapple is insanely useful underwater as well, more than the torpedo arm

[bold monolith]

Maybe with the docking module as well.

But yes you could try that.

[neat fern]

can i use wave musik for the subnautica below zero jukebox

[steel shoal]

wave musik..?

If you mean putting your own songs in the Jukebox, I think it's possible by dropping the .mp3 files in the Jukebox music folder

[bold monolith]

Where is your Prawn Suit?

[neat fern]

and a WAV

[cinder estuary]

At the bottom of the deep twisty bridges, but I'm making the docking module so I can go grab it

[steel shoal]

I don't think .wav files work

[neat fern]

ok

[steel shoal]

They're also very heavy

[bold monolith]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Jukebox

What they say about the restart is wrong though, you don't have to restart the game for the musics to show up.

[steel shoal]

oh, turns out you can!

Ignis, what happens if you delete the Cheli model file mid-game? Do they become invisible?

Or does the game die

[bold monolith]

You probably get an error, just the model?

[steel shoal]

Yes

[bold monolith]

The entire prefab you'll get an error when the game will deserialize your object. If you just remove the model I don't know.

So it will be like they don't exist.

You might get the same result.

[steel shoal]

I see

Thanks

[cinder estuary]

Ok now omw to pick up my suit, wish me luck

[bold monolith]

I don't think it's possible with just the jet upgrade. :þ

[cinder estuary]

....well that didn't work

My seatruck blew up lmao

[bold monolith]

Why?

[cinder estuary]

300 depth max, suit is at almost 400

[sacred jungle]

Can squidshark grab prawn suit

[steel shoal]

No

[cinder estuary]

It can't but it'll shock ya

[steel shoal]

But you shouldn't hurt it like Ignis did

[sacred jungle]

Too big i think

[steel shoal]

It can grab Robin tho

[sacred jungle]

Self defence is reasonable

[sacred jungle]

kill animation?

[bold monolith]

What should you do? Letting it much on it?

[steel shoal]

Regular attacks

[steel shoal]

Of course!

[sacred jungle]

But a repair tool needs battery

[bold monolith]

@cinder estuary don't do that.

[steel shoal]

It grabs Robin but she punches the teeth, I guess they have nerves in their bones...

[bold monolith]

Make sure you can enter the seatruck afterward.

Or use unstuck.

[cinder estuary]

Soooo I can't dock my suit while it's stuck like this, but I did find out that if I get in the suit, exit, and pilot the docking unit I can "swim" without oxygen lol

[bold monolith]

You can dock it, I did it above.

[cinder estuary]

OH NO IVE OOPSIED send help

I'm stuck inside the docking module and I can't get out lmao

[bold monolith]

Use unstuck again.

[cinder estuary]

Ignis it's not docking 😦

[bold monolith]

Is your docking attached to the Seatruck?

[cinder estuary]

No it blew up lol

[bold monolith]

You should do it like that, but reload your save since it's gone, the docking needs to be attached.

When it's docked press unstuck to swim, and go to the sanctuary with your Seatruck and the Prawn Suit.

[cinder estuary]

Bruh I spent 47 minutes trying to fix this lol

Time to try again

[neat fern]

are ther infinet of the green glowing qubes

[bold monolith]

No, but there are a lot. If you're worried you need one for the story and one for a portal that is optional. The rest can be used for the alien technology.

Optional as well.

[neat fern]

ok

[sacred jungle]

Well i would scream my lungs out...

But punching helps too

[regal hinge]

yeah, pretty much the plan. in the first subnautica I would install and deconstruct scanner rooms all over the world map to find what I want that way

[sacred jungle]

But you need power for it, or thats what im thinking. Or does it function on its own?

[regal hinge]

in the first game atg least a single solar panel would panel it until it sunset. sometimes that was enough. I think two solar panels were enough to power a single scanner room

it was scanner room + hatch + solar panel (or two). that was it.

[gloomy lodge]

does anyone know where i can get nickel ore

[regal hinge]

I don't know how far you are in the game, but I found some just after and below M||eida's base|| (some spoilers)

[gloomy lodge]

ok thanks

also did anyone else have a problem with their snowfox falling through the map

[young merlin]

what should i do after ||maidas greenhouse||

[gloomy lodge]

well from their i set my sight on fixing the bridge

and making a snowfox

affter i planted all the food

[west mountain]

Depends what you have not done yet. Which Alterra facilities did you not visit yet, what ||AlAn Body parts|| did not find yet.

[sacred jungle]

The plan: Seetruk mobile base, and a base around the middle of the map to grow plants

For many salad

[undone lantern]

im using a pc to play but i want to use a ps4 controller, but when i plug it in my screen just keeps spinning. what do i do?

[fervent bloom]

Teeth aren't bones, though. Also, if some small creature was punching my teeth, I would let go.

It appears they often feed more on small fish than on larger creatures, so I would guess that they don't like prey that fights back. Then again, most predators wouldn't.

[steel shoal]

You're right

But the "teeth" don't look like regular teeth like us mammals have

They're more like tusks

They're still not bones but whatever

[fervent bloom]

I was thinking that... They definitely seem embedded in their jaws very firmly. Are they the entire structure for the projecting mouth?

[steel shoal]

It looks like it

The structure looks like two hands, almost like a clam but with spikes

The trailer made it seem more flexible than it actually is

[fervent bloom]

It also implied that squidsharks were found in the Kelp Forest... it's less than accurate, but I'm glad they were included.

[thorn orbit]

Hey friends, that thing is friendly?

It’s an Giant stingray

[fervent bloom]

Do you have a better image?

[steel shoal]

I can't see anything, but it's probably fine

Yea, it's a whale

[thorn orbit]

Whale? Ohh

[fervent bloom]

I was going to guess that it was a cryptosuchus, but that didn't fit the "giant stingray" description.

[thorn orbit]

Btw, the last communication with an pilot is very Nearby of there my question is… is very complicate that zone?

@steel shoal (Srry for tag)

[steel shoal]

I don't know what is the question, but no, it's not very dangerous

[steel stream]

Probably depth might be the biggest issue, depending on your gear

[thorn orbit]

Ok look my English is medium bad haha I’m from vzla so… I meant, if on that zone there are oddballs

[steel stream]

I see you have 150m limit on your seatruck...you can get close to the beacon marker, but need to dive deeper to find her (the pilot)

[thorn orbit]

Yeh I should improve that

[fervent bloom]

Especially once you get into the caves, you shouldn't have much trouble with predators. ||There are some creatures that will steal your tools if you're holding them, and if you see orange tentacles waving in the water, avoid them.||

Oxygen plants are very helpful.

[thorn orbit]

Yeh that oddballs are so cute, but very bad with that

And tentacles? I’m scare rn 😢

[fervent bloom]

Sea monkeys are some of the best creatures in the game.

[thorn orbit]

And why the Jellyfish Are they approaching me?

That makes me nervous

[fervent bloom]

The jellyfish are harmless. You can scan them to find out more (they're an interesting creature, and you might find out something useful).

[bold monolith]

They're approaching to do harmless things then?

[fervent bloom]

Do they follow the player? I didn't think so...

[thorn orbit]

Uhmm.. ok!

In what depth there is the leviathan? @fervent bloom

I saw that there are some…

One on the Mainland and the other on de underwater

[fervent bloom]

Those jellyfish and the whale you saw earlier are actually classified as leviathans. The Purple Vents where you are right now have a large and aggressive leviathan called the chelicerate, but you seem to have gotten past it without trouble.

Actually, there are three aggressive leviathans in the game: the chelicerate, the ||ice worm||, and the ||shadow leviathan||.

[thorn orbit]

Bruh

[fervent bloom]

Not all leviathans are dangerous, though; several are friendly and/or helpful.

(You can ride glow whales.)

[thorn orbit]

Ohh that nice!

And yes I’m was Surprised that I didn’t see that leviathan on that zone, cuz in my first time exploring the zone I saw and I quite the game lmao

Where is find the The high capacity O2 bottle?

[fervent bloom]

You can also interact with the glow whale on the right side of its face.

[thorn orbit]

I am missing one

[fervent bloom]

That's found in a databox in the Twisty Bridges biome. It's near a small tube someone built.

[thorn orbit]

Ok… I don’t now whats is that biome cuz is my first time playing the game haha

That biome It's like a cave?

[steel shoal]

It's the place with coral bridges

South of the pod

[regal hinge]

I was complaining before about getting lost. Well, I just realized this map is way bigger than I initially thought

[fervent bloom]

That's understandable, especially when the biome names aren't really in the game.

[thorn orbit]

Ohh I will go for there

[steel shoal]

The map is still huge, just not as deep

[thorn orbit]

Yeh yeh, but with coords I can orient me

If in S or N, NO, SE, etc

[fervent bloom]

If you go toward Delta Station Dock from your pod, you'll cross the Twisty Bridges.

[thorn orbit]

One time (2d ago) I mistook southwest for southeast and ran into what you told me was in the Mercury ship area.

[thorn orbit]

Btw bro, where is the aerogel?

[fervent bloom]

You encountered the chelicerate? Did it attack your Seatruck?

[thorn orbit]

Where is find that?

[fervent bloom]

Aerogel requires rubies and gel sacks, both of which can be found on the way to the ||pilot||.

[thorn orbit]

Not in that moment I didn’t have the seatruck

[thorn orbit]

Ohh… nice and to get to that area I have to run into that leviathan.

[fervent bloom]

I'm glad if you survived it, then. From where you were in the ||Mercury II||, you're most of the way through the chelicerate's territory.

[thorn orbit]

Are very dangerous that things?

[fervent bloom]

The chelicerate is the leviathan you encountered. They do a huge amount of damage, but they shouldn't attack you as long as you don't linger in the area.

[thorn orbit]

Ohh

Well… I need the aerogel and that is in the territory of that leviathan class. This is great

[fervent bloom]

The ingredients for aerogel are actually in a different area. The ||Pilot Last Known Location|| should lead you to them.

(I'll be busy for a few minutes, but I'll be back eventually, and I'm happy to answer more questions.)

[thorn orbit]

Sure! Is prob that I have more question while play the game haha

Ty for all bro!

[carmine bobcat]

which do you prefer: reinforcements or foundations?

[eternal garnet]

reinforcements , by a lot

[steel shoal]

I use both, for very different reasons

[eternal garnet]

foundation has a big issue: cannot remove without destroying everything it touches

[carmine bobcat]

I prefer reinforcements because I couldn't remove a foundation after I placed one

[carmine bobcat]

yes

[sacred jungle]

Foundation removes the big poles its under...

[carmine bobcat]

I don't mind the poles at all

they look stylish kinda

[sacred jungle]

I dont like it when theres like 50 poles all through eachother

[fervent bloom]

Hello!

[fervent bloom]

I would prefer that there be more supports for the large room, though.

[west mountain]

I would prefer when the base is not growing legs onto my parked seatruck. Its soooo annoying.

[carmine bobcat]

I want reinforced windows

I hate hull integrity

but i love windows

[fervent bloom]

Perhaps they could use enameled glass and give no penalty.

[carmine bobcat]

yeah

[thorn orbit]

Hi

[sacred jungle]

Loll

[regal hinge]

I was looking at my full alien containment and thought "ya know what would be a funny bug?"

If there was a bug that caused all the creatures to turn hostile, and the moment you entered you were ravaged and mauled in a tornady of fangs and red blots of blood in the water

[carmine bobcat]

huh

[sacred jungle]

Hmm

It would be fun to make it so you can install a device on the alien containment so you can choose what kind of biome it is

[carmine bobcat]

ooooo yes

[carmine bobcat]

i was looking at the air and I thought "ya know what would be a funny bug?"

if there was a bug that caused the air to turn into an alien containment without me having to find the blueprint and resources so i could put the sea monkey eggs i have in it

seriously give me my alien containment 😢

[steel stream]

Perhaps you should try to find another parking spot...

[west mountain]

Not possible, it is THE parking spot for my base. That's why it is so annoying. Why the base grows legs to a seatruck? Thats not how it should be.

[carmine bobcat]

build the sea truck dock

[steel stream]

It grows legs because you drive there too fast for the legs to get rendered

[west mountain]

I have plenty of seatruck docks in my 26 bases. But my main base still has the concept of two connected moon pools for prawn and seatruck. So no option. All that's left is to deconstruct and reconstruct the two tubes every time this happens.

[west mountain]

No, it happens after I parked the seatruck, leave the area and come back later.

[carmine bobcat]

can't you use the docking module to dock the prawn suit?

[fervent bloom]

That detaches when the Seatruck is docked in a moonpool, unfortunately.

[carmine bobcat]

with the sea truck dock I mean

[fervent bloom]

I see. Still, it doesn't recharge or repair the Prawn suit.

[carmine bobcat]

meh, I don't thinjk it matters so much

but ok

maybe use both?

1 moonpool and one truck dock

[fervent bloom]

I thought the point was that markus_trachsel didn't want to use the Seatruck dock for this base.

[carmine bobcat]

I thought they wanted to just have it connected

the truck dock is also really useful

[wide dawn]

Built a moonpool and seatruck dock

[eternal garnet]

yes that works

[carmine bobcat]

sea monkeys are the best

[sacred jungle]

I like glow whales

They cute

[carmine bobcat]

i like that you can ride glow whales

cool useless detail

[eternal garnet]

try their right eye

[fervent bloom]

Have you ever tried the other interaction?

[carmine bobcat]

there's something else?

one sec i';m checking

[eternal garnet]

it's a tiny thing, but yes

[carmine bobcat]

DON'T SPOIL IT

gonna take a while

[eternal garnet]

don't spool it

[fervent bloom]

Have you ever found a glow whale egg?

[carmine bobcat]

there are glow whale eggs?!

[eternal garnet]

rare as hens teeth

[fervent bloom]

I don't think they're that rare... many of the ||Lilypad Islands|| have one or two.

[carmine bobcat]

how are you even going to hatch it?

[eternal garnet]

many? I suspect theres 1 or 2 ingame

[fervent bloom]

The egg alone takes up 9 slots in your inventory.

[fervent bloom]

I'm pretty sure that there are at least five. Squidshark eggs are definitely rarer. I'll have to see how many I can find at some point.

[carmine bobcat]

do you just put it in the alien containment?

[fervent bloom]

Yes, though they're much smaller than their full size inside. You can also pick them up once you release them.

[carmine bobcat]

ahh

[eternal garnet]

yes, just pick the whale up, carry it outside

cool story

[carmine bobcat]

I can't interact with the whale othjer than ride it

[sacred jungle]

YES

[fervent bloom]

Try the right side of its face...

[eternal garnet]

that's pretty amazing

[sacred jungle]

I found like 5 in 10 minutes

[fervent bloom]

I've never been entirely sure how they get their eggs in caves in the ||Lilypad Islands||...

[sacred jungle]

Yess

[carmine bobcat]

I did it but it's too dark to see what's happening

i'm gonna try to find a whale closer to the surface

[sacred jungle]

Theres only || 2||

[fervent bloom]

Thank you, I know. (I was actually referencing the glow whale eggs with the last sentence, so I'm sorry for the confusion.)

[undone lantern]

guys when i try to use a controller my screen looks up and starts spinning uncontrollably, how do i fix it (im on pc)

[carmine bobcat]

I think it's because of steam

[undone lantern]

whyyyy

[carmine bobcat]

disable the controller for the game on steam

and only the game will use the controller

[undone lantern]

ok

[sacred jungle]

Maybe they poop it out there? Or push it there?

[carmine bobcat]

I did it

the interaction with the eye is so cute

[fervent bloom]

Do you prefer that, or riding them?

[carmine bobcat]

definitley the eye

[fervent bloom]

I need to ride those that dwell in the East Arctic more.

[sacred jungle]

I still wonder how || maida || survived weeks in the || reaper || with just 1 oxygen tank and a repair tool

|| she || states that it had taken weeks to float to the surface

[carmine bobcat]

what did you expect? it's ||maida||

[sacred jungle]

It took WEEKS

[carmine bobcat]

my point still stands

[steel shoal]

I don't know, her survival makes little sense the more you think about it

[carmine bobcat]

also ||she ate the fat of the reaper||

[sacred jungle]

I mean im happy for her she saw birds and she is ABSOLUTELY amazing

[sacred jungle]

Does fat give oxygen

[carmine bobcat]

she had a rebreather?

[sacred jungle]

Its just a weird thought that someone KILLED a giant beast, went INTO its corpse, SURVIVED for WEEKS and then still lives

[carmine bobcat]

idk i can'\ts tand when people expose plot holes in media i love ;-;

[steel shoal]

She's more of a villain, I'm with Allie on this one

Staying away from the woman

[sacred jungle]

Your average ultra high capacity tank is 225 seconds full of oxygen

[carmine bobcat]

||Margeruite|| is the best

[carmine bobcat]

she had official supplies

not ones from salvage and natural resources

[fervent bloom]

Who's Allie?

[steel shoal]

||How I call Al-An||

[carmine bobcat]

I love ||Alan||

[fervent bloom]

Oh, right. I wonder if he'd mind that name...

[carmine bobcat]

I don't think he'll understand nicknames

[sacred jungle]

She just seems like a woman that uses what she needs, she states in the pda 'Speaking freely' in subnautica that the boy is usefull. But i suppose she didnt build a whole base in the corpse

[carmine bobcat]

she's herself so she could do anything

[steel shoal]

Bart is kind, but she's not the smartest person ever

[sacred jungle]

Yup

[carmine bobcat]

Bart's great

feel bad for him

[sacred jungle]

I liked bart. He had a horrible death

[steel shoal]

She's reckless and doesn't think too deep, she was half of the reason why they all died

[carmine bobcat]

ooooo you're taking sides

yes she was kinda at fault but paul is also horrible

[steel shoal]

Maida and Paul both did really poorly

[sacred jungle]

But i just find it weird she was weeks in the reaper with just 1 o2 tank

[sacred jungle]

Bart was the mvp

[carmine bobcat]

bart's the actual best

[sacred jungle]

He wanted to cure kharaa and didnt fight

[steel shoal]

Bart was the only good player in the team

[carmine bobcat]

but ||marguerite||'s awesome i wish she could teach me how to ||tame snow stalkers||

also she really ||helped sam||

imo if that counts as ||help||

[steel shoal]

||She rammed a seatruck with a bomb into a nuclear reactor||

[carmine bobcat]

epic

wait she did that?!

WHEN?!

[steel shoal]

She was lucky no one was inside

Not that she would care

[carmine bobcat]

tbh she's better than riley

riley is careless and could've doomed the planet

[steel shoal]

Ryley was selfish, only saved the planet because he had to

Maida willingly put others' lives in danger

[carmine bobcat]

but at least she tried to help

also ||when did she blow up a nuclear reactor?!?!||

[steel shoal]

||Omega Lab||

[carmine bobcat]

||alterra kinda deserved it||

[steel shoal]

But not the people there

[carmine bobcat]

true

[steel shoal]

Vinh was a junior, still

[carmine bobcat]

emmanual does deserve it though I want him dead :3

[steel shoal]

He didn't seem particularly proud of his work

[sacred jungle]

Was it at || omega lab ||?

[carmine bobcat]

marguerite is chaotic neutral

[sacred jungle]

Oops didnt read the following chats

[steel shoal]

Alterran employees are not evil, they don't deserve suffering or even death because of the higher-ups' intentions

[sacred jungle]

Why did she ram || omega lab|| where they too loud lol?

[steel shoal]

||She blew up Omega Lab to stop any progress on the Kharaa mutation, and probably to keep people busy while Sam went to the leviathan||

[carmine bobcat]

damn

well marguerite was that

[steel shoal]

I don't know

The way she was portrayed in SN wasn't very nice...

[carmine bobcat]

at least she tried to help bart?

[steel shoal]

She was gonna leave Bart and Paul starving

[carmine bobcat]

with the reaper

[steel shoal]

She didn't because a storm ruined the crops

But she was thinking about waking up in the morning, raiding it all and leave on her seamoth

[carmine bobcat]

I think she has anger issues

[steel shoal]

And also, never truly helped Bart on the research, she either killed everything, or almost killed Bart

[carmine bobcat]

also she was kinda right about going deeper

[steel shoal]

The reaper leviathan was more of an insult directed at Paul, she did not did it just for Bart

[carmine bobcat]

huh

[steel shoal]

That's the only part where she was right, and Bart agreed on it

[carmine bobcat]

yeah

[steel shoal]

I guess the Jellyshroom cave was also fine

[carmine bobcat]

but she also warned paul about the storm

so kinda his fault?

about the storm

and the crops

[steel shoal]

Maida wasn't trustworthy, so I forgive Paul for that one. But he was wrong about staying on the surface

He was also very wrong in coming to 4546B

[carmine bobcat]

yeah

[steel shoal]

Trying to collect treasures instead of actually surviving was also not very smart from him

He should've allowed Bart to go around

[carmine bobcat]

was it that bad that she encouraged bart to go out in the storm?

I mean it's their only food supply

she could've done it herself actually

[steel shoal]

No, Bart himself wanted to go outside

It's weird, in the conflicts, either one or the other are wrong, they never agree on anything. And then Maida gets to survive...

[carmine bobcat]

yeah

though Paul at least tried to save Bart

Where can I find the repair tool and builder tool?

[carmine bobcat]

fragments

Well where exactly can I find the fragments?

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[steel shoal]

Repair tool is already unlocked, habitat builder is in small bases and supply areas. Visit the coral bridge areas

[carmine bobcat]

Okay thanks

guys i have a confession to make

I never finished the game

;-;

Finally built the seatruck and went off to go explore and realized a repair tool might be a good idea

[carmine bobcat]

How come?

[steel shoal]

I highly recommend, it's very fun in the later areas

[sacred jungle]

True

[carmine bobcat]

I was too scared and I cheated and I stopped playing because I was cheating and I felt bad so I just watched gameplay ;-;

I'm on my first playthrtough with no cheats currently

[sacred jungle]

In the beginning its a bit slow

[steel shoal]

I never found it slow, only when I didn't have a seaglide

[carmine bobcat]

also it's more embarrasing because I played for 56 hours without finishsing it

[carmine bobcat]

same

also the game is incredibley underrated

[steel shoal]

The game has a ton of stuff to do, and it's all connected through the PDAs

[carmine bobcat]

I also love the map

[steel shoal]

Me too

[native tapir]

mesa be jar jar binks 😄

[carmine bobcat]

and I don't get why people hate that there is no cyclops

it makes sense because the map is more dense

[steel shoal]

The Cyclops was really fun, but it wouldn't fit BZ that much

[carmine bobcat]

yes

[steel shoal]

The biomes are not as tall

[carmine bobcat]

also the seatruck is amazing i love it

sad that they didn't have the seatruck dock at the start

[steel shoal]

I agree, I love the engine noises

[carmine bobcat]

i love that you can attach many many many modules

[steel shoal]

It's so well made, but I get it

I've been reading stuff about the development

[carmine bobcat]

the dock is awesome

I wish I could play the old versions of the story even if it's the short portion that was available

[steel shoal]

The game is not 100% fleshed out, and it shows in some parts. It's really sad that it didn't go as planned, but they still made an amazing job

[carmine bobcat]

yeah

the game is actually very pretty too and the aurora in the sky is great

[steel shoal]

Mechanically, it's super good, and the biomes/creatures are stunning (Cryptosuchus noises succ though)

[carmine bobcat]

yes

[steel shoal]

I remember when I was playing for the first time and someone in the chat said "look up, the Aurora" and I was looking for the ship--

And then the sky was so beautiful

[carmine bobcat]

you stream?

[steel shoal]

Yes, but not anymore, life's been busy

[carmine bobcat]

ok

I hate the idea of life

;-;

[fervent bloom]

In many ways, Subnautica feels somewhat primitive compared to Below Zero. It has a great story, but they definitely improved the gameplay and experience in my opinion.

[carmine bobcat]

yes, and I think the BZ has also more story