below-zero-chat

[carmine bobcat]

Thank god they fixed it

[bold monolith]

If you test it yourself you'll see it doesn't change the outcome. Place one upgrade, jump and see. Place the second, you'll get the same height. Remove one of them, you'll reach the same height as when you have none.

[eternal garnet]

"as when you have one" ?

[bold monolith]

None.

Basically placing the upgrade is set the Boolean to true, removing one place the Boolean to false.

[eternal garnet]

oh. bug

[bold monolith]

So placing one you set to true, placing the second you set it to true, removing one you set it to false even if one is still there.

I don't even find the ticket I made about stackable upgrades.

I suspect it was on Favro.

When we were using that.

So it should have been fixed a long time ago. The fact experimental is different is odd as well.

It's like the bug regressed at some point.

[carmine bobcat]

Can i send a video here?

Nvm i need nitro, but yea what you're saying its true, its weird

[bold monolith]

You should be able to send videos up to 100MB.

[carmine bobcat]

Its in spanish, but it says that i only can send videos up to 25mb

[storm imp]

https://www.freeconvert.com/video-compressor

[eternal garnet]

or link a video site

[bold monolith]

This server is boosted level 3.

[carmine bobcat]

His video is probably more than 100 MB

Discord forgor and displayed 25 MB

[storm imp]

discord moment

[bold monolith]

You might be right.

[carmine bobcat]

I might be Obama

I played the game on extra hardcore

it is, the video is 180 mb

[steel shoal]

Hardcore isn't harder, it's just annoying

[carmine bobcat]

lul, let me see if i can upload it to a site

Use these settings!!!

[storm imp]

@carmine bobcat

[carmine bobcat]

Even after compressing, its too big

[carmine bobcat]

More of an obstacle, therefore harder 😂🤣

done, i upload it to a site

Help spoiler!!..

I can’t look sorry…

I forgor

[carmine bobcat]

||https://streamable.com/j1zp7b||

[storm imp]

did you specify it to compress to less than 100mb?

[carmine bobcat]

It’s ok I already had 44 hours before I came back after a year

Wonder what’s new

[carmine bobcat]

I dont think so, but it doesnt matter i upload it to a site

The start of the game is new at least

Instead of having to walk for 1 km and exploring stuff you can just walk straight to the pod after 200 m

Back in my day we had to do that!! 🧔‍♀️

[steel shoal]

It's not harder, it doesn't affect gameplay

[carmine bobcat]

no

Extra hardcore!!!

[steel shoal]

It's just that bugs are a lot more dangerous

[carmine bobcat]

Real… therefore need to be more careful

[steel shoal]

Not really

When encountering a bug, just hope it doesn't ruin your run

[carmine bobcat]

Hardcore doesn’t necessarily mean level 100… think of it as walking 10 meters forward, nornally you would just walk easy, but make it hard and walk 1 meter per minute (you got to count!!)

Annoying as you said?!?

Bugs are dangerous too

That’s why you learn from your mistake in your new world!! 🕵️‍♂️

[steel shoal]

Bugs are not caused by mistakes

[carmine bobcat]

Bugs are caused by I don’t know…

Then suddenly you know?!

Then you familiarize yourself with the possible bug outcomes of different things like driving, leaving your vehicle wrong place, etc….

Like that one time I left my subnautica spoiler: ||seamoth underwater above sand on island and came back to it being stuck!!||

[steel shoal]

You could think of a normal playthrough as a 1km run, and hardcore as a 1km run, but if someone pushes you over you can't continue. It's something out of your control.

[carmine bobcat]

Good. Do it again?!

Life is unpredictable!! Just like subnautica above zero.. (spoiler new game sorry…)

Cloud, are you ok?

[steel shoal]

No.

[carmine bobcat]

grrr you not doctor…

Doctor in question: i got my knowledge from p.d.a

[carmine bobcat]

I am not ok, that is my brother, I am Cioud

I think you should stop consuming you know what.

You wrote my name wrong I am so mad!! 😡

[steel shoal]

They're right, they have CIoud with an uppercase i

[carmine bobcat]

||Nutrient bar||

Spoiler!

[eternal garnet]

|| ||

[carmine bobcat]

💀

[carmine bobcat]

HELP I can’t click

[eternal garnet]

sparse sky water formations cannot click

[red perch]

||bolz||

[chrome cedar]

When you hit F1, is the speed reported there supposed to be meters/second? No scale is given.

[eternal garnet]

yes it is

[chrome cedar]

The seaglide speed is slower than expected, my numbers aren’t making sense.

Wiki shows BZ seaglide should improve speed by 1.41m/s, I’m showing closer to 2.6m/s. But SN shows a base seaglide speed of 11m/s, and even with fins I can only get up to 8.65 in BZ…

[eternal garnet]

sounds correct. it is faster in SN, especially with ultraglide fins

[steel shoal]

I thought ultraglide fins had little or no effect on seaglide.

[eternal garnet]

I'm not sure. Anyway it's missing in BZ, and if you cheat it in, it does nothing. I think

[steel shoal]

Actually, I think it has 0 effect

It just ignores gear, right?

[bold monolith]

It isn't the case in BZ.

[chrome cedar]

In SN it supposedly ignores gear, per wiki.

I think I remember that the seaglide speed changed at some point in BZ? But can’t find any details on that.

I’ve been looking at speedruns, and doing my own, only way I can get close to some of those times is if my seaglide speed were faster. Most of those vids you can’t tell what version they were on because they have a clock overlaid where the version would show…

[limber pebble]

anyone know where to get diamonds

[fervent bloom]

Try down in the ||Deep Twisty Bridges|| or one of the ||thermal crevasses around Delta Island||.

Also, hello. You're new, right?

[limber pebble]

yea rn in the game i barely made the sea truck (i have abt 6 hours on the world)

where are the deep twisty bridges

[fervent bloom]

Do you know where the ||Twisty Bridges|| are? Go to one of the deeper parts, and keep heading down. Just so you know, it's around 300 meters deep.

[limber pebble]

...where those

North south east or west

[fervent bloom]

The drop pod is in the shallow area, so keep heading toward the ||Delta Station Dock||.

[limber pebble]

...i feel really dumb rn

which direction is the Delta station dock

the only places i have rn are my pod, emergency suply drop, alien distress call, survior distress call, radio tower

and i tried to go to survior distress but my seatruck cant go that deep yet

[fervent bloom]

Go to the general area of the ||alien distress call||, then keep heading deeper.

[limber pebble]

oh ok and i almost got merced by the squidshark and the very big thing with very big spines on its back

[fervent bloom]

Yeah, the ||chelicerate|| is not fun. I tried to scan it today, and ended up bringing it a nice snack instead.

[limber pebble]

how fast is it😂

[fervent bloom]

I don't know... probably faster than one would think, but you might be okay with a Seaglide.

[limber pebble]

really a seaglide can outrun it?

[fervent bloom]

I don't know how to measure speed, but I might try it and see.

I'm heading over there for crystalline sulfur anyway.

[limber pebble]

oh alr

and how do i deall with Cryptosuchus because there are always so manyyyy

[fervent bloom]

Hitting them with the knife will drive them off.

[limber pebble]

oh thats all it takes?

[fervent bloom]

Yes, that is enough - they're much more bark than bite.

[limber pebble]

lol ok and so is there any better weapon than a knife

[fervent bloom]

You can upgrade it to a thermoblade, or blast rocks from the propulsion cannon; additionally, the Prawn suit has significant offensive abilities.

[limber pebble]

so like a lightsaber

[fervent bloom]

It's more like a hot knife; it'll also instantly cook fish for eating.

[limber pebble]

do i have to find a blueprint?

[fervent bloom]

No, but you'll need the modification station.

[limber pebble]

oh ok

should i make the habitat builder

[fervent bloom]

At some point, you definitely should. Are you ready to make a base?

[limber pebble]

should i get to the distress calls first?

[fervent bloom]

Either would be a fine order. Building a base will be helpful, though.

[limber pebble]

where would be the best place to build one

p.s how do i get to the alien distress call it seems theres no opening to get there

[ornate horizon]

is below zero woth getting if i have the regular one already?

[viral badger]

yes

[limber pebble]

how fast is the squidshark

[steel shoal]

Faster than the seatruck, at least

Probably not faster than the speed boost

[limber pebble]

damn alr bc im in a area that has one

[steel shoal]

Only one?

[limber pebble]

...is there more than 1???

yea i swam away as soon as u said that

it was down there

what can i use aerogel for

[steel shoal]

Advanced crafting

[steel shoal]

Oh, that area only has 2, I think

They're really far apart

[limber pebble]

whatd i click

[steel shoal]

I think F1?

I don't know, it's one of those keys

[limber pebble]

thx

it was f1

[steel shoal]

It's the command console, it disables achievements if you click anything

[limber pebble]

oh ok i didnt click anything thankfully

how do i get to the alien distress call it seems theres no opening to get there

[steel shoal]

Which one?

Wait

Oh, keep following the trench while at 170m

You'll see green stuff

[limber pebble]

alr

thx

[fervent bloom]

I'm I the only one who dislikes large rooms?

[limber pebble]

like irl or in game

[fervent bloom]

I was talking about Below Zero. I'd much rather use multipurpose rooms.

[limber pebble]

i dont have an opinion on that because i havent gotten that far just yet

what items do i lose if i die

[fervent bloom]

You might lose resources you've recently collected, but you'll never drop tools.

[limber pebble]

oh ok bc i was worried about my tools

[steel shoal]

I like both rooms

[fervent bloom]

I find large rooms very big and empty. It's hard to know what to fill them with.

[steel shoal]

False

You're just bad at interior design

:)

[limber pebble]

thats crazyyy

[steel shoal]

I can show you my room, if you'd like

No wait, I can't right now

Send me a DM, I'll see what I can do tomorrow

[fervent bloom]

Okay... I'm going to be disappointed if you don't have a lot of plants in it.

[steel shoal]

Counters and walls really do help

[steel shoal]

I have one of every plant in the game. Several times.

Except for those horseshoe shrubs, I only have one

They're kinda ugly in my opinion

[fervent bloom]

I actually like them, even if it's just for the nuts.

[fervent bloom]

I'm somewhat new at this; how would I send you a direct message?

[steel shoal]

You click on my icon

And then a window will pop up

Click "message"

[fervent bloom]

Oh, thank you. I see it!

[limber pebble]

can i show u my screen and so u can help me get to the alien distress call

[steel shoal]

I think it's near that small outpost

South from the pod

[limber pebble]

south of pod ok

do i have to go through roots

[steel shoal]

Yes

[limber pebble]

this thingy?

[steel shoal]

That is an artifact

I think that is the wrong cave, it's in the coral bridge area

[limber pebble]

yea wrong cave

dont ask how im so far off

[steel stream]

I think andy meant the coral bridges when you asked if you have to go through roots

Not the roots in kelp caves...

[steel shoal]

There are some plants with roots in the coral bridge area

[limber pebble]

so i ended up getting all 3 parts of a laser cutter

and almost dying several times trying to find an exit

is it near this

what does the ion cube charge bro whys it got so much charge

[carmine bobcat]

Yes

If you go down into the twisty bridges far enough you should find a tiny loot station, it’s right near there just search for the glowing boxes

[steel shoal]

It's just a random number

[limber pebble]

i swear looking for it is making me feel so stupid

[limber pebble]

oh ok

these are twisty bridges right

[carmine bobcat]

Just go close to the distress call

And then go down at the deep twisty bridges part

Once you find a glowing green box follow them and they’ll lead you to where you need to go

[limber pebble]

ok

so follow glowing box

[carmine bobcat]

Not exactly over it because that’s the final destination

[steel stream]

There are some items which use ion cubes for power, and that's the charge these tools have from one cube.

[limber pebble]

oh ok

[limber pebble]

alr alr

[carmine bobcat]

Just look for twisty bridges nearby that go down a good bit

[carmine bobcat]

You’ll be in the right area once you spot either a glowing box or research station at/near the bottom

[steel shoal]

Yes, that is it

[carmine bobcat]

👍

[limber pebble]

YESSSSSSSSSS

[raw nebula]

nice

[limber pebble]

im fr so happy

[steel shoal]

These are being spoiled, right?

[carmine bobcat]

If you’re here and haven’t found it yet you probably don’t care anyways

[raw nebula]

||It's the place you see for a moment in the video on the store page.||

[steel shoal]

What about people who are encountering bugs?

[carmine bobcat]

Then you’ll probably end up in #🐞bug-smash

[steel shoal]

That's for bug reports, not troubleshooting

For example: vehicles clipping through the floor, structures not spawning, game breaking bugs

In those cases, they have to come here and ask for help

[carmine bobcat]

Most of those bugs occur after you’ve been playing for an hour

[steel shoal]

That is besides the point. There are many bugs we haven't encountered yet

[limber pebble]

how do i spoil my msg

[steel shoal]

I didn't know this, I thought it was a major spoiler

[steel shoal]

Text: ||text||
Images on mobile: click on the mini image preview on top of the message bar and mark as spoiler.
Images on PC: click on the eye icon

[limber pebble]

||why the aliens in my head||

[steel shoal]

||If it fits, it sits||

[limber pebble]

thats crazy

[raw nebula]

PC: This

[limber pebble]

lol bros worried the machine is a spoiler

where the diamonds

i need me sum

[raw nebula]

(If you want to avoid spoilers altogether, you surely haven't seen here... I think.)

[limber pebble]

i saw it tho

it looked like just ice/snow

when u sent it earlier

[raw nebula]

it's the Ice locked room

[limber pebble]

...?

so just ice

[raw nebula]

Don't worry, this won't happen if you play normally.

[limber pebble]

is it me or does this look like a smiley face

[raw nebula]

:o

I'll play BZ

[limber pebble]

u havent or what?

u tryna help me find sum diamonds🥺

[raw nebula]

There should be a cave somewhere in the biome where the facility we just found is located.

[limber pebble]

whos "we" gang

[raw nebula]

aw

[limber pebble]

u and ur friends or sum?

[raw nebula]

I use a translator...

[limber pebble]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

alr

[carmine bobcat]

@limber pebble u want the location to find diamonds?

[teal parcel]

Hey I wanted to plant some pretty exterior garden bed mostly for the aesthetic. But is there a way to get them to not automatically rearrange things? Like I don't want all the seaweed to bee bunched together etc, I want it to be random.

[broken badge]

The best way I know to achieve something like that, is to use full grown (let’s say this is for underwater, for example) plants, say gel sacks, ribbon plants, or cotton anemones. Once they’re fully grown (so you can place them down and pick them back up again as much as you want/need), you can use them to “block out” places you don’t want other plants to be, or just figure out in general how things will be placed in the growbed, since it does have a bit of a system all its own😂

If you’re planting above water you can similarly use the frost vase plant (once grown to full size) or later on when you have found them, the marbelmelon plants, as these also offer the ability to place down and pick back up, as I recall.

If by seaweed you mean the creepvine, because they are 2x2 and the exterior growbed will only hold 6 of those, then yeah, planting several creepvine plants will look like they’re bunched together because they’re tall and take up more space than say plants like gel sacks which are 1x1

[teal parcel]

Thanks, I hadn't thought of using gel sacks etc to block off areas, I will try that.

Yeah I just hate that if you plant say 3 creepvine they are always bunched together, I want them to be kinda spead out, like one at one end, another at the other etc and stuff around and in between them. So I will try your method and see if it works hwo I want it too.

[chrome cedar]

It takes a bit more work but is the best way to guarantee what you’re after. If you make all your grownbeds while facing the same direction with the builder, then the first spot is always going to be in the same corner from what I’ve seen. Problem is I rarely build mine while facing the same direction…

[teal parcel]

Haha yeah well each of my grow beds will probably be a bit different, with not all plants in all grown beds obviously. I am going for that random, thrown together look.

[fervent bloom]

A squidshark chased me straight into a spikey trap in the ||Deep Twisty Bridges||. This is not a great combination.

I'm building my first Seatruck module for this game!

[carmine bobcat]

Which one

Can someone debunk this for me, I don't know where I heard it from and can't tell if it's true or not. Do the 3 void chyllcersates get larger the further you go from the map?

Why would that matter

I doubt it would do any good for the game so probably no

[carmine bobcat]

I just remember hearing it years ago and I never really got into below zero like the first so I don't know if it's true or not

Probably before all the real updates

🤯

[deep kettle]

@steel shoal it's still very much there.

Just because the weather gets in the way doesn't mean it isn't there x)

[lime grove]

if i dont see it that means its not real

[carmine bobcat]

Then I guess air is just not a thing!!!

🤣 👉🏿

It is in subnautica

[steel shoal]

I've been to the Arctic Spires, the clouds are very dynamic

[carmine bobcat]

Check your air guys...

[lime grove]

i eat air

[deep kettle]

Nevermind they are.

But that isn't any different from the first game.

Oh you mean that the clouds actually change over time?

[carmine bobcat]

The wind be blowing

I saw the snow, it was real, I could touch it

[lime grove]

the water is wet

[steel shoal]

Yes it is!

The sky is all pretty and always changing

Subnautica is just an image spinning all the time

[deep kettle]

That was definitely changed yeah.

[eternal garnet]

always changing, but somehow always snowstorm

[steel shoal]

Arctic Spires are so so pretty

[eternal garnet]

Seek shelter.

[steel shoal]

Strangely enough, I have not seen many weather warnings in the Ice Worm area

[grave veldt]

The ice worms are the warning

[steel shoal]

I love them so much <333

[eternal garnet]

you cannot hug every worm!

[steel shoal]

Isn't there only 1?

[eternal garnet]

hard to say

[steel shoal]

I like to think there's only 1

Makes it all so much more special

[boreal ledge]

this is PAINFUL 🔥

[steel shoal]

How many Yasmine logs are there? I only found 2 and I love her already

[chrome cedar]

What exactly?

[eternal garnet]

game too hard

[chilly lion]

wth is this

[eternal garnet]

ventgarden. Useful for one thing, if it's the full adult that is anchored to the ground

[chilly lion]

well im stuck now ig

[eternal garnet]

harmless, although possibly guarded

[chrome cedar]

Just swim fast.

[chilly lion]

AHHHHHH

[chrome cedar]

Swim faster!

[chilly lion]

I really gotta look up the big shrimps spawn points second time running into one

Well maybe not it’s more exiting not knowing anything

[sacred jungle]

Aah yes. Another one has infected

The big shrimp instead of chelicerate gang GROES

GROWS

[chilly lion]

I didn’t know it’s name

But big shrimp better

[limber pebble]

i fr fell asleep playing subnautica

how long does it take to finish the game

[chrome cedar]

Anywhere from about an hour to many days or even weeks, depending on your goals and knowledge of the game.

[limber pebble]

rn im just exploring and trying to get to all the beacons

||ive already been to the survior but my seatruck cant go that deep yet and the aliens are already in my head||

[chrome cedar]

You won't actually get beacons for two of the locations you need to get to in order to finish the game. You'll only get vague hints while exploring the map of something interesting this direction.

Scanning sites that you do get directed to will help unlock some new technologies though.

[limber pebble]

oh ok so rn do i need to go to the ||survior beacon||

[eternal garnet]

for the green beeacons you get, turn them off as you visit. Saves headache

(you have none so far)

When your truck can do 300m, go to Pilot

Pilot went deeper, so it's only a waypoint

[chrome cedar]

If you mean the pilot one, then that's more of a side quest and not essential to completing the game. But does help you get some goodies for your base.

[limber pebble]

I went to the pilot but i couldnt get in because i needed my seatruck to get into it but if i tried my seatruck wouldve broken

[eternal garnet]

huh what. Get in thru the moon pool

[limber pebble]

i tried but it wouldnt let me get in

[eternal garnet]

swim in, I mean

[limber pebble]

also how do i avoid the big ceature with big spines on its back

[eternal garnet]

you don't bring the truck in

[chrome cedar]

Right

[chrome cedar]

Swim away and hide

[eternal garnet]

the red chelicerate? Pilot has a truck upgrade for that. It's manual fire

[limber pebble]

i dont have diamonds yet

[eternal garnet]

who said diamonds? Do you mean depth MK1?

ah ok. I recommend, either deep twisty bridges, below 300m. Or, unpin all, pin that recipe, find monkeys

[limber pebble]

what do monkeys do?

[chrome cedar]

You'll need several for the Prawn as well if you want that, for the drill arm.

[eternal garnet]

they may help you.

and, 50%, they help with what you pinned. Rest is random

[limber pebble]

oh ok

[carmine bobcat]

@lethal sand @eternal garnet I managed to put it on the left side 😭😭

I don’t know how but I logged on and it just let me

Has got to be a true red / true blue thing for every time you log in

[lethal sand]

XD

I told you to try removing it and reapplying it to see if that'd fix it

[limber pebble]

the moneys giving me quartz for glass

[eternal garnet]

try again

and unpin all crap

[limber pebble]

i did

now another one gave me copper

[carmine bobcat]

Trust me I tried a million times

[carmine bobcat]

It only worked when I reloaded the game today

[eternal garnet]

oh! you have to pin the enameled glass

[limber pebble]

oohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[eternal garnet]

instead. So that diamond is on screen

my bad

They won't give you crafted items

[carmine bobcat]

Can you find diamonds outside of koppa? Just wondering

[limber pebble]

oh ok

[eternal garnet]

yes, deep twisty, and in some volcanic vents

[limber pebble]

what do i do with a dead battery

[carmine bobcat]

Deep twisty really? It doesn’t go down that far I thought

[eternal garnet]

it goes to near 400 in a couple of deep holes

new biome down there

[carmine bobcat]

I just went all the way back to koppa to open a sealed chest just for it to have a power cell

[carmine bobcat]

Charge it 🤯

[limber pebble]

how

[carmine bobcat]

Charger 🤯

@limber pebble just follow the basic path the game puts you on and scan everything

You should get it really early on I just forget where

[limber pebble]

alr

[eternal garnet]

battery charger, I believe it comes with the builder tool

[carmine bobcat]

Ohhhh

Are you operating out of a tiny tiny base per chance @limber pebble ?

[limber pebble]

im still in pod

i can make a base tho

[carmine bobcat]

Then open your habitat builder your charger should be there

[limber pebble]

where should i make a base tho

[eternal garnet]

I suggest near delta island

[carmine bobcat]

Make sure it’s an open open space

Don’t make a mistake like I did and build it higher up if you can

[limber pebble]

no not underwater

[limber pebble]

are these the green ones u were talking about

[eternal garnet]

yes

[limber pebble]

so after i find them they useless

[eternal garnet]

their game purpose is to have you explore that area

[limber pebble]

i already scanned the thingy

[eternal garnet]

yes. But you will forget which you visited

[limber pebble]

oh ok

[limber pebble]

is delta island the island with the ||radio tower||

[eternal garnet]

yes. the only island actually

[limber pebble]

oh really its the only

[eternal garnet]

the stuff to the west I call a small continent. Land

[limber pebble]

is that where the ||crash ||is

[eternal garnet]

your crash? no it's north. But that is the same continent, so yeah

[limber pebble]

oh ok

[robust musk]

is it bad that I advanced throughout most of the game using only commands

[eternal garnet]

yeeeees?

But hey, your game

[robust musk]

I was like
enter
Quartz 10
Filteredwater 10

😭

Damn bored to go look for a gazillion bladder fish

[eternal garnet]

then why not play Freedom mode

[robust musk]

When it was time to get to the ||infected leviathan||

I was like.

goto the name of the location

After Looking for it for years

[robust musk]

I like the food munching sound

[chrome cedar]

Now that you’re familiar you may want to start a new game and accept the challenges and put in the work. To me at least that’s much more satisfying.

[solemn tundra]

Should I give below zero another chance

I tried it before and i was bored out of my mind

[steel stream]

I guess most in this channel would advice to give it another chance

[chrome cedar]

Agreed. But it really depends on what your gaming goals are, maybe what you liked most about the first game if you played that, etc.

Some bits are tedious, but the base building and exploration are quite enjoyable for most.

[solemn tundra]

tbf last time i played the game wasnt finished so i'll try again

the story has already been spoiled but i'll give it a shot anyway

[viral badger]

yea its good tbh

its a little boring at first imo but once u start getting to the story kinda yk

[chrome cedar]

The story did change from early access. There may still be some story bits that surprise you. More PDA entries and background info in the game than most folks bother to read. Knowing at least some of the story may help you make better sense of what you do read.

[wet saddle]

you can't really, only way to do it is (iirc) taking out the left power cell

[bold monolith]

No but it checks if you have power otherwise they don't work.

So what you do is basically a hack.

Because it checks the first powercell, acts like you don't have power anymore and the lights are off.

It's only the lights that act like that. It will still work but the light are going to be off.

[wet saddle]

now i've been ||cured ||on my switch playthrough, i think it's time to reinstall on PC, and go into creative mode in VR, have a look at some of these leviathans and actually appreciate their size

[idle spindle]

Why Subnautica Bellow Zero gets stuck on epilepsy warning?

fresh install no mods

[storm imp]

on what hardware?

[steel shoal]

We have #🔧sn1-bz-tech-support

Many people never read it

[bold monolith]

Old CPU?

[carmine bobcat]

Ignis do your thing

[bold monolith]

They might have the same issue as yours.

But if they have Steam they can solve it by switching to the "Legacy" branch.

[idle spindle]

no subnautica worked without problem

[storm imp]

what cpu is it?

[idle spindle]

i5 7400

[storm imp]

and the rest of the hardware, for that matter

[idle spindle]

1050 ti

[storm imp]

and ram and storage?

[idle spindle]

16 gb and 3tb storage

[storm imp]

and what kind of storage is the game installed on?

[idle spindle]

hdd

[storm imp]

bingo

[idle spindle]

lol?

subnautica worked on hdd perfectly fine

[storm imp]

it's probably not stuck, it's just taking a scat ton of time to load

[idle spindle]

and all other games even Cyberpunk

[idle spindle]

sure for hours and not using hdd at all

looked at task manager its at 0 usage

when it appears

[storm imp]

not sure then, but I still blame it on the hdd.

[idle spindle]

can't when its not using

Subnautica loads fine and quick

but Zero not

[steel shoal]

Can you interact with hatched Whales?

[fervent bloom]

I'm not sure... you can pick them up again, but that might mean that it's impossible to interact with them in other ways.

[steel stream]

Are you sure you can pick them up if you release them in open water?

[steel shoal]

You cannot pick anything that isn't edible/rockgrub

[bold monolith]

Share your log file.

shell:localappdatalow\Unknown Worlds\Subnautica Below Zero

[idle spindle]

i guess for some reason when i modded normal subnautica and Qmod manager probably detected Bellow zero and injected qmod loader so it probably reason it didn't start because its outdated

[eternal garnet]

yes, I was going to have you check for the Bepinex folder

remove or update, is the fix

[idle spindle]

i reinstalled completely it starts normally

[eternal garnet]

reinstalling BZ does NOT remove exta files and folders. Hence it doesn't remove qmodloader

[idle spindle]

and prob not gonna use mods anymore because those not gettin updated and most mods gone from nexus

[eternal garnet]

remove folder Bepinex.

[idle spindle]

qmod folder was still there

had to manually remove

[eternal garnet]

ya that is harmless, Bepinex is not

Bepinex loads first, it then loads stuff from Qmods

[idle spindle]

i think bepinex was not a thing when i played subnautica

i only had qmod

[eternal garnet]

I am speaking about BZ here

[bold monolith]

Them too.

BepInEx wasn't a thing before.

[eternal garnet]

Oh well. I think you said it loads now

[bold monolith]

They migrated to integrate it to Qmods, and then removed Qmods completely to do the full transition.

Not in BZ because the update was before the latest SN update.

[dawn kelp]

Pretty sure this is a bug before I report it right? I have no way of getting it back into the water.

[eternal garnet]

it's not a bug. user error. Reload a save, or push it in with a prawn

it's upside down?!

This requires some talent

This is a major reason to save often

[dawn kelp]

how do you save often? There's just save and quit.

Also I don't have a prawn I'm still trying to find more pieces of it

[eternal garnet]

oh, hardcore? Well, you could save + quit

I would never recommend hardcore 🙂

[dawn kelp]

Also it could be user error, but I had it in the water, and I was trying to get in

[eternal garnet]

third option, leave it there,turn beacon off, make new truck

[dawn kelp]

Apparently it glitched out when I tried to get in by jumping onto it

and then it flipped perfectly upside down onto the ice

[eternal garnet]

OK maybe a bug I guess, but I would not bother reporting without a video

[sacred jungle]

UPSIDE DOWN?

HOWWWWWWWW

[eternal garnet]

it's your challenge now

bot removed: a word

[sacred jungle]

Propulsion cannon?

[dawn kelp]

That's what I said too, I couldn't get into it from the water, and I couldn't get into it from the land.

[sacred jungle]

That might work

[dawn kelp]

I tried to grab it with the cannon and that was a no go too.

[sacred jungle]

Hnm

[dawn kelp]

Like I said, I tried to jump into it from the water and I...super jumped? I guess? and the truck too onto land. I turn around and you've got the picture now.

[idle spindle]

so seamoth is not a thing in bellow zero?

[eternal garnet]

no. Well it's available by cheat, without textures

The truck replaces it quite well

[idle spindle]

would still like to have it normally 😦

[chrome cedar]

I love the truck. Just wish it had more power/speed. At least double.

[idle spindle]

it looks like seatruck replaced cyclops not seamoth

[eternal garnet]

it replaces both. Seatruck can have rooms added to the back

[idle spindle]

i have looked at gameplay it can't move as freely as seamoth

[chrome cedar]

Not quite as nimble, true.

[sacred jungle]

But it CAN move

[idle spindle]

can it have movement up and down when no modules?

i mean from mouse movement

[dawn kelp]

uhh using a controller I use the right and left shoulder buttons to descend and ascend

[idle spindle]

thats cyclops movement

[carmine bobcat]

Make it go boom

[steel stream]

Everything uses the same controls (at least on ps4). Well prawn goes down by itself and the 'up' button activates the jump jet.

[idle spindle]

you prob haven't played first subnautica with seamoth

[eternal garnet]

nearly every BZ player has

I suggest: Allow things to be different. This is not subnautica 2.

[carmine bobcat]

Subnautica Below Zero is literally on the same planet as Subnautica!?

[eternal garnet]

yes it is. Colder area. 2 years after

[carmine bobcat]

Let's do Subnautica: Working tirelessly to pay off my debt

Worst part is Subnautica is somewhat accurate to how most of human civilization might look like in the future!?!?

[eternal garnet]

what, population 1 or 2?

[carmine bobcat]

Already seeing resemblance... I use chat GPT for my test... I cheated on my test... I don't want to drive pls when do we get self driving cars...

[carmine bobcat]

What's the difference

[eternal garnet]

same, I am just not sure if 1 or 2

[limber pebble]

the monkey finally gave me diamond

[eternal garnet]

ha

[carmine bobcat]

Minecraft stole the idea of the Allay from Subnautica Below Zero with the Sea Monkey 🙄

Let's sue them and get funds for Subnautica 3: Above Space

[limber pebble]

is that a real thing tho Subnautica 3: Above Space

[carmine bobcat]

Yes

You'll get spacemoths

[limber pebble]

id buy that imediantly

[carmine bobcat]

And a space jetpack

Don't run out of electricity though

Sorry I spoiled I won 't do it again (I am secret developmenter)

[steel shoal]

The next Subnautica game is not confirmed to be a sequel or a spinoff, but it will not be Subnautica 3.

[limber pebble]

if its not a sequel im crying

[carmine bobcat]

Subnautica: Above the Atmosphere

Where else, underwater? 🤣😂

[limber pebble]

Subnautica: above 150 degrees

[steel shoal]

It's in a new engine, there's a chance it could be another spinoff to experiment things.

[carmine bobcat]

See I told you they're adding orbital mechanics

[limber pebble]

orbital?

[carmine bobcat]

🤣👉🏿

[steel shoal]

They're saying nonsense.

[carmine bobcat]

no

How dare you call me they're i am actually they'e

Anyway I can't think of anything except for maybe travelling to that space arch

Above 150 degrees is also an alternative

Could just make it iron lung as well (maybe not a blood filled moon) or that big void with big monsters that people want to explore

[steel shoal]

Hey, I asked this a couple times but got no answer, so I thought you might know. Can I interact with hatched Glow Whales after releasing them? I still have no interaction prompt, so I don't know know if I have to wait longer or if it'll never be available.

[carmine bobcat]

S-s-s-s--s spoilers!! what in the world's worlds is a glow whales

ok goodbye

[eternal garnet]

Didn't try, but I feel you should be able to. Go on top of the head by the horns

[steel shoal]

I tried, and also went close to the eyes - still nothing

[eternal garnet]

possibly a bug

[steel shoal]

I have a 5 min clip of me swimming against it in different angles.

[eternal garnet]

I don't think there's a point to reports anymore

[limber pebble]

so do momkeys just not steal from me anymore

[eternal garnet]

no, they help now. And they can see your pins

[steel shoal]

After Al-An gets in your head, they try to help him

[limber pebble]

so like if my pins are empty then they stteal

[eternal garnet]

no. But still, 50% of what they give is random

[limber pebble]

oh ok

[steel shoal]

Yea, I found a coube other bugs - one of them kinda severe, but I doubt they'll get fixed any time soon.

[eternal garnet]

player here successfully beached truck on land. Upside down.

[steel shoal]

Wow, mad driving skills

[eternal garnet]

yes, scroll back 2h

they did it with their feet, apparently

[steel shoal]

Apparently if you shoot a grapple to the floor, out of water, and look away, walking is multiple times faster. So fast that it instantly triggers Ice Worm attacks back to back

[limber pebble]

where do i get lithuim

[eternal garnet]

on top of purple vents, which is the yellow biome east of delta dock

[limber pebble]

oh like purple fire stuff

[eternal garnet]

or, monkeh

I am off to play Half Life. Yes, 1

[steel shoal]

Good luck, have fun!

[limber pebble]

whats half life

[eternal garnet]

the game that made Valve famous

[limber pebble]

oh ok

[eternal garnet]

and the engine behind the first Counter-strike

[steel shoal]

Half life is me after 2 snow stalker bites

[chrome cedar]

Never played HL. Loved Portal though.

I won’t say bug reports are useless anymore, but anything major is already going to be know, and anything minor literally isn’t worth their time to investigate.

Switch users still report crashing, so that might be the one exception for something happening. My guess.

[limber pebble]

how do i avoid the big creature with spines on its back again

this thing Chelicerates

[slim robin]

Man, they did a serious number with lead. No deposits to drill and the galenas are only in some places.

[fervent bloom]

Wait, there are no lead deposits? That's awful. This game doesn't have lithium, either.

[slim robin]

theres lots of lithium by the purple vents.

but lead and magnetites are seriously scarce.

[limber pebble]

what do i do

[slim robin]

i'm not sure what I'm looking at. have a video?

[limber pebble]

thats the squidshark

its camping me

[chrome cedar]

Just takes some looking. Scanner room helps greatly.

[limber pebble]

its not leaving

can i kill it?

[chrome cedar]

Three lockers of lithium, two of lead, and that doesn’t include everything I already used.

[limber pebble]

can i kill the squidshark with a knife

[chrome cedar]

And still more on the map I haven’t collected.

[chrome cedar]

Yes.

[limber pebble]

alr

oh

[chrome cedar]

Multiple hits though. It may bite you.

[limber pebble]

its not aggresive

nvm

it jjust didnt see me

[chrome cedar]

[limber pebble]

i killed it

then its buddy tried to kill me

then i killed it to

[steel shoal]

Lame

[limber pebble]

lol

are these whales with huge fins friendly

[eternal garnet]

yes! Go interact with its head

[limber pebble]

like click on its head

OH

IM ON IT

stuff is hurting the whale

alr they stopped hurting it

[limber pebble]

how do i get in

[chrome cedar]

Underneath

Moonpool

[steel shoal]

I'd spoiler the image, though.

[limber pebble]

alr

thx

scared tf out of me

[steel shoal]

rawr

[limber pebble]

i fr jumped

[eternal garnet]

a very literal jump scare

[limber pebble]

lol yea

wait thers another one?

[eternal garnet]

no that's a bug

[limber pebble]

bruh

[fervent bloom]

Apparently, solar panels don't work so well in the deeper parts of the Twisty Bridges. Thus, I'm using power transmitters. I've gotten up from 25% sunlight to 60% sunlight, so that's progress.

[chrome cedar]

The deeper you go the less sun they get. Almost useless after 180m.

Foundation near the surface and a handful of transmitters and you’re golden.

[fervent bloom]

That's essentially my plan, though I'm skipping the foundation.

[chrome cedar]

I like the foundation, you can pack about 30 panels into one if you needed to.

[fervent bloom]

Good point. How many meters do the power transmitters reach?

[steel shoal]

100m

[fervent bloom]

I probably have more than I need, then. I'm at 152 meters.

[chrome cedar]

You need one within about 20m of the power source, and after that up to 100m. I’ve found they can be a bit finicky at close to their limits, so try to be a bit conservative with the placements.

Three should do the trick for that distance.

[fervent bloom]

I think I did it with two, although I'm not quite at the surface with the solar panels. Is there an advantage to having them completely out of the water?

[chrome cedar]

Out of water they work 100%, just below the surface it’s still some high percentage, then falls off the deeper you go. I think there was a chart in the wiki on how well they perform.

[fervent bloom]

Okay, that chart is pretty cool. I might build the foundation out of the water so I can put some growbeds on it, as well as panels.

[chrome cedar]

Nice…

[fervent bloom]

I only have horseshoe shrubs so far.

[steel shoal]

The ugliest plant

Don't worry, you'll get better..

[fervent bloom]

Shrub nuts are pretty good for food, give some water, heal you, and don't rot. I need to go back to Outpost Zero and get some lantern fruit.

[steel shoal]

They stink though

[teal parcel]

I always plant at least one of everything just for the hell of it

[fervent bloom]

Me too. If I can plant it, I will, though the numbers depend on how much I like the plant.

[teal parcel]

I like making pretty bases of I always fill them with planters and plants to make it more home like.

This play through I am also going to be trying my hand at make nice looking underwater grow beds to create a garden

[fervent bloom]

I love plants in bases.

Making growbeds look good isn't always easy, unfortunately.

[teal parcel]

Yeah the exterior grow beds are not ideal but its a good challenge

[steel shoal]

Sorry, I haven't really played anything recently, maybe I'll find some time in the weekend, hopefully even earlier

Exterior growbeds are the best, large interior ones are bad

[teal parcel]

I tend to make my main base in a specific place in the purple vents because I like how light it is there. So there is a decent amount of flat space and I want to have quite a few 'garden' areas.

[chrome cedar]

Large ones aren’t bad depending on what you’re planting.

[fervent bloom]

I don't like the green leaves in interior plant spaces.

[chrome cedar]

Very true, problem is it never actually gets dark…. View would be so spectacular if that happened.

[teal parcel]

Personally I just wish we had more decor options, there are so many plants both water and land, in this game I wish they had made more of them into growable for decor options

[chrome cedar]

True

[steel shoal]

There are not many underwater plants, unfortunately

[teal parcel]

That is a fair point, but I like the interesting darker blue hue it gets at night. I always try to make my main base in a safer and warm/light area.

[steel shoal]

My garden looks so repetitive

[teal parcel]

Yeah I found a article with everything growable and its a very disappointing amount, especially when there is so much more in the game.

[chrome cedar]

There are actually quite a few, just most aren’t harvestable.

[teal parcel]

That is the issue I always have. Even with random planting all the beds end up looking similar because there are only a handful of plants to plant

[steel shoal]

I made mine as random as possible, mixing ribbon plants with redwort and anemones

I made sure not to overuse kelp clusters because they're the only tall plant

[teal parcel]

This time around I am going to try do the same, I want to try make a real 'home' base. So I need decor and plants to make it have that livable long term look

What I would have loved them to implement was garden block, like 1 square blocks you could put together to make whatever size or shape garden bed you wanted

But I feel general decor in this game is a little lacking. I would have liked books, kitchen stuff, personal effects you could put on shelves etc. We only get such a small amount of that stuff, everything is pretty much posters.

[chrome cedar]

Hopefully the next game will make the base builders happy.

[teal parcel]

Hey I am good at complaining, but I have to admit they added some awesome stuff to below zero, its great that with each game base building gets better and more varied

[steel shoal]

The executive desk is so good

You can put a bunch of them in a row to make a big table!

Picture frames and wall pots are nice

I do miss the figurines though

I think you can still bring items in through moonpools with a prop cannon

Wiring kits make for great computers

[teal parcel]

I never thought of using the prop cannon to grab usually ungrabable things

[steel shoal]

You can't pick them back up and place them, you'll need to leave the base and drop them, and repeat the process. It also makes the game lag more.

[teal parcel]

Ahhh maybe more trouble than its worth

[steel shoal]

It's really good for screenshots and stuff, but I wouldn't recommend having them around permanently

[chrome cedar]

Hoping the new graphics engine will help with the lag.

[storm imp]

what lag?

[steel shoal]

Caused by items in bases

[storm imp]

evidently I don't build big enough bases then

[steel shoal]

You don't need big bases

Prop cannon items into your base a go away, it should cause lag in lower end devices

Having several items hurts PS4 a lot

[limber pebble]

where should i build my base

[steel shoal]

I like the Arctic Spires

[chrome cedar]

It’s pretty subjective. Lots build central for the convenience, others like the view in the various biomes. Some just prefer the challenge of a unique spot. It all depends on your goals.

If it’s a first playthrough, probably somewhere central may work best.

[limber pebble]

wheres central

[steel stream]

Delta island

[teal parcel]

So my main base is always in a particular spot in the purple vents because I like how pretty and light it is. But first I build a small storage/pit stop base at the Delta Island Dock, that just has some lockers, a modification station and chargers.

Then once my main base is done the way I like it I just start making sub bases wherever I feel like at that moment.

[thorny brook]

I just finished below zero for the first time yesterday:)

Trying to think of weird places to build bases now that I'm done

Has anyone tried to build inside of a vent garden before?? Might try it

[west mountain]

Just watched a video where someone build inside. The trick is not find a place where you can place a tube piece not touching anything. Even a multipurpose-room is possible. But almost no space to conncet anything, But hey, give it a try.

[thorny brook]

I'll give it a go😊

[chrome cedar]

Can’t build in the vent garden. I tried. LoL

At least not with the current version.

[idle spindle]

so sea monkey just make things dissapear?

[bold monolith]

They steal your stuff and place them in their nest after a few seconds.

[idle spindle]

but i was unable to find them in nest

they circle around and poff its gone from their hand and nowhere to be found

[bold monolith]

You can steal it back for a while, you have time. Don't stab them though.

Otherwise they just release it where they are and you can lose the items in the grass.

[idle spindle]

now following their movements with beacon but they never go to nest

[bold monolith]

They don't go to the nest themselves.

Basically the item is teleported to the closest nest.

[idle spindle]

hmm so how long until its get teleported?

[bold monolith]

Let me check.

[idle spindle]

i guess my items in one of their nest i was unable to find

yeah found items in one of nest

[chrome cedar]

Swim after them and you can often grab the item back from them. Put away anything you’re holding when they approach you.

[bold monolith]

It gets teleported when the item is disabled, so when you unload the Seamonkey or when they're close enough to one of the nest.

There is a SeaMonkeySwimToNest action though, but each time I see them they're busy taunting me.

You can hide the tool when you're in their area. You'll swim faster (except when you have the seaglide).

[teal parcel]

I honestly found the sea-monkeys stealing my stuff the most annoying part of the game, like disproportionately annoying, so I modded my game so they would stop stealing my stuff.

[bold monolith]

Pressing E isn't very difficult.

Also, they don't steal for the whole game, so.

[spring cypress]

yo how to progress in game (no spoilers) like i || constructed first part of al-an || and the other ingredients are unknown nd idk what to do cuz game giving no locations or anything

[bold monolith]

||Al-An|| gives you some clues to where the other parts are when you scan ||artifacts||.

[idle spindle]

do items like ores respawn?

[bold monolith]

No.

Don't worry too much, unless you spend more than 500 hours in the same playthrough there is no way you'll deplete it.

[idle spindle]

can no longer find those plants for batteries

[spring cypress]

i mean im getting no clues or smth, i did scan some sites but components not unlocked

[bold monolith]

Twisty Bridges.

Where the brute sharks are.

[bold monolith]

I assume you found the ||skeleton||?

You should explore the land part more.

[spring cypress]

yup only || skeleton ||

[spring cypress]

the || phi robotics area? ||

[west mountain]

Unleass you are a madman digging up ever single piece of resources like some of us are 🙂

[idle spindle]

are those usually in great depth?

[bold monolith]

How many hours though?

[bold monolith]

And the other side.

[west mountain]

Go pretty much everything out after 250 hours

[bold monolith]

Around 100 / 200.

There are a lot of them here, but you should also plant them.

[west mountain]

Once you find the exterior growbed it is a good idea to plant some of those to have them near your base.

[spring cypress]

alr thanks

[idle spindle]

now im scared to use battery 😄

[west mountain]

Why? And can you already build the recyclotron? Then you dont have to worry about batteries again.

[idle spindle]

i just started game got seaglide and 1 seatruck fragment so you have an idea

and already strugling to find battery plant ;D

[west mountain]

Ah, ok, then good luck. You are doing great! The battery plants are also in the shallow area noth of your drop pod. They are a bit hidden in caves or so.

[idle spindle]

collected those

[west mountain]

But most of them are around twisty bridges

[idle spindle]

can't find anymore

searching for hours without luck

[west mountain]

Hmmm... that is a bit strange. But again, you have to go down in twisty bridges sooner or sooner, so you will find plenty of them.

[idle spindle]

yeah im in that location

[west mountain]

Also many imporant items in twisty bridges, its your go-to place in the beginning.

[bold monolith]

It is strange, I don't think you needed that many batteries.

[idle spindle]

i can't recharge them yet

found seatruck pieces before habitat builder 😄

where habitat builder fragments usually are

[bold monolith]

You'll stumble upon them at some point, they always are in the same spots.

[west mountain]

We talked about twisty bridges before, did we 🙂

[idle spindle]

i was able to find lots of seaglide and mobile vehicle bay fragments but still no 😄

[idle spindle]

whats this map link

[bold monolith]

I'm sorry it isn't public.

[west mountain]

There are public maps, but these are huge spoilers. Then you can also watch a playthrough on youtube.

[spring cypress]

@bold monolith found || arms || will the || last component be at phi robotics side too? ||

also thanks for help

[bold monolith]

No. You have optional story related things in this game.

For instance, finding what happened to your sister is kind of optional at the end.

So you can decide to fully complete the game, or just ||build Al-An|| and go.

[west mountain]

And the highlight of the game

[fervent bloom]

I got the ||chelicerate|| scan, and only died once.

[spring cypress]

completed that, but where to find || last component ||

dont tell exact location but like if on land or in water

[bold monolith]

Water.

You completed the ||pilot's quest, went to the greenhouse and cured the leviathan||?

[spring cypress]

yup done, now only last part of || body || remaining, the || organs ||

[west mountain]

||deep under water||

[bold monolith]

It's a place you already went. But that hint may be too much.

[spring cypress]

can i also have a little hint like biome name

cuz i explored whole place ;-;

[west mountain]

||crystals||

[steel shoal]

||Al-An tells you about the place when you get close to it. Something about crystals||

[spring cypress]

alr thanks

[spring cypress]

thanks

[idle spindle]

so when i die do those belonging gets deleted ?

or are they in death place?

[bold monolith]

They are dropped.

If you have a beacon it will be released when you die and you can easily find them again.

[idle spindle]

can mineral detector detect dropped gold?

[bold monolith]

Yes.

[spring cypress]

by any chance, are they near the || red things the blocks in the crystals area ||

[idle spindle]

i think those items got deleted passed same place and nothing was there

5 pieces of gold and habitat builder that i lost

[steel shoal]

No, it's purple

[spring cypress]

im trying to find them but cant

like im at || purple crystals nd explored the under thing where alot of kynite nd then i gone red place ||

[steel shoal]

||Look for a big cave full of crystals||

I am just echoing what he told you

[spring cypress]

full of || kyanite? ||

[steel shoal]

No, Morganite

[spring cypress]

alr

[idle spindle]

that means items gets deleted on death when items not infinite

[steel shoal]

No

Items aren't deleted, they're just dropped

What can happen though is the items clipping through the floor

[idle spindle]

tested again in other location same thing happened objects not here

starting to hate this game because of that remember in first subnautica that was not a thing

[storm imp]

items clipping through the floor absolutely happens in the original

[steel shoal]

In the first game it was extremely more common

In terms of bugs, BZ seems significantly better

[carmine bobcat]

I am geragrest pilot in the galaxy...

no reaper or fish can take me?! Not even peeper

[eternal garnet]

Only one can be the geragrest

[idle spindle]

just realised that to get depth upgrades for seatruck i need fabricator module which is probably deeper than i can go with it 😄

[chrome cedar]

There can be only one...

[chrome cedar]

Regular fabricator at your base should work.

[idle spindle]

for depth updates?

[eternal garnet]

You can only make MK1, and you can make it at home. MK2,3 needs mod station

[chrome cedar]

That. ^^^

[idle spindle]

and how do i install into it

[eternal garnet]

install what?

[idle spindle]

upgrades

[chrome cedar]

In your truck?

[eternal garnet]

lid top left side

[idle spindle]

ah ok thanks

[eternal garnet]

You cannot do this inside the truck dock

[idle spindle]

truck dock is for recharging and customization only?

[eternal garnet]

it repairs, and lets you walk right into the modules

is very nice

[chrome cedar]

It repairs the truck at least, not modules.

[idle spindle]

i got moon pool unlocked

so it also need to find it also?

[chrome cedar]

Moonpool can charge the truck, but doesn't do any repair.

If you have the moonpool you should also have the truck dock unlocked I think?

[eternal garnet]

yes

[idle spindle]

so moonpool* is for prawn i guess

[eternal garnet]

both

[idle spindle]

but too many upgrades and its probably not gonna fit

modules*

[eternal garnet]

it will

oh. In the moon pool, none fit. They detach. The truck dock is unlimited

[idle spindle]

is there lenght limit on how many modules can connect?

[eternal garnet]

we have not found one, it's over 100

[idle spindle]

wow

[eternal garnet]

But, it drives slower the more modules you got. From the third and up

[idle spindle]

there is no addon to boost it from back?

[eternal garnet]

no. there's a horsepower upgrade, which only does this: reduces the speed loss. With that you can have 3 modules with 98% speed

[viral creek]

just me or dose this guy look like he about to timble tumble off a clif bro (he cute asf thoo)

[fervent bloom]

Well, they do fall over regularly. They're one of my favorite creatures.

[viral creek]

i see why

[fervent bloom]

Can anyone confirm that spinner fish don't respawn if you kill them?

[steel shoal]

They respawn, I believe

[eternal garnet]

I can't, don't know if there's an issue., but all small creatures typically respawn

[steel shoal]

Edible fish tend to respawn

[bold monolith]

I confirm it.

[fervent bloom]

Really? I wonder why. I thought the wiki might be wrong when it said they didn't.

[fervent bloom]

Did you make that? It's amazing.

[bold monolith]

I made a lot of things.

[fervent bloom]

I would love to see anything else you've made. I like spreadsheets.

[bold monolith]

I have like 50 scripts for SN and BZ.

[fervent bloom]

Where do you get the data? Those are all amazing.

[bold monolith]

The game's files.

[fervent bloom]

I'm surprised those are accessible.

[bold monolith]

You download them in order to play the game. :þ

[fervent bloom]

I suppose that makes sense... can you get them off of a disk?

[bold monolith]

Oh you have the console version? I don't know much about the data on console.

[fervent bloom]

Yeah... I might do some research.

[fervent bloom]

Are brute sharks affected by flares?

[low sky]

kinda sad that cyclops isnt in bz 😞

[fervent bloom]

I like the new vehicles, but the Cyclops is amazing.

A lot of the areas in this game would be too small for it, though.

[low sky]

true

[fervent bloom]

Am I supposed to be able to pick up the batteries in ||Omega Lab||?

[eternal garnet]

no

somebody superglued them to the shelf. silly lab people

[fervent bloom]

They're floating around in my game... along with a lot of flasks. I don't want them, but I feel like I should be able to grab them.

[chrome cedar]

I don’t remember batteries floating, may need to look again. Cool coffee mug I couldn’t take or scan though I think.

[broken badge]

I remember I wanted to take that coffee mug😔

[chrome cedar]

Amazon has them…

[remote ocean]

sooooo prawn suit fell through the map before i saved. i read that console commands permanently disables achievements in below zero. is that true?

[chrome cedar]

Yes

[remote ocean]

well wtf am i supposed to do then just build another one and hide the beacon for the one inside the map?

[chrome cedar]

That’s one plan. Quit and reload your last save is the other.

[remote ocean]

i apparently had saved after it fell through the map in my last session. ffs i just got the arm upgrades

[chrome cedar]

Oh, ugh…

[remote ocean]

and depth mk2

[chrome cedar]

Where did it fall at?

[remote ocean]

underneath NE delta island

i tried swimming to the cave ceiling underneath it, but it isnt stuck on a cieling

it's just stuck on nothing

underneath of the map...

[chrome cedar]

Hmmm, odd. I’ve left mine parked there and never had issues.

[remote ocean]

i have 60 hours between the first game and now this one. this is the first time i left my prawn suit undocked somewhere in either game and this is what i get

[chrome cedar]

There are a lot of vents and tunnels there, I’ve had my prawn down there and swam away more than a few times.

The graphics engine is sadly prone to glitches…

[remote ocean]

that isn't the case though. i was working on my base before i went to dinner, where i had the prawn docked. i never rebuilt the moon pool before i saved and left my prawn off to the side by my planters. i only noticed it was gone after playing for 20 minutes and then going to use it

[chrome cedar]

Possibly Ignis may have some idea when he logs back in, give it a few hours.

[remote ocean]

just lame now second game in a few weeks where i had a debilitating bug that could only be fixed by console commands which permanently disables achievements in both cases

first starfield broke so i put that down until it's fixed and i've been playing through subnautica since i had them purchased back when they were on sale

i don't feel like making another prawn suit with all the upgrades, nor regathering all of the crap that was in it's storage

[chrome cedar]

Like I said, get him a bit to get online again.

[remote ocean]

I'm newer here. Who is this Ignis you speak of

[fervent bloom]

Ignis knows a lot about the game code and how to fix bugs.

[eternal garnet]

if you can do mods, the QmodManager resets the cheat flag from using commands

but... getting the prawn up from a huge depth could be impossible

[remote ocean]

It's only 65 meters under the ground but tampering with achievements makes me nervous

[chrome cedar]

There are some console things that may not reset the flag. You are on Steam, right?

[remote ocean]

yes

[chrome cedar]

Good

I can’t remember if there might be some way to edit the save to reposition the prawn. He gets pretty deep into those things. But that may not be a thing.

[eternal garnet]

every console command sets the cheat flag, which is stored in your save

[remote ocean]

i figured as much. i used ghost to clip through the ground and swim to the prawn which worked just as a test. i didn't save but now i at least now that i can get it out easily if i can work around the stupid save flag

[chrome cedar]

I’m actually thinking of the F1 menu, there are some buttons there to reset some of the rendering. Can’t recall exactly what those are labeled as.

Ah, that’s something then.

[eternal garnet]

nothing there is useful here, and I don't know what sets the cheat flag

I believe the F3 menu options don't. Water volume there is nice to remove water fog

[remote ocean]

ugh this sucks i really just wanna play this game lol. i finally got everything i need to explore and resource gather properly. just got the snow fox and was planning some expeditions on land

[remote ocean]

SUB-1652 Bug 3 Open 68556 [Save-State] When you load the game with a prawn suit parked on land while at the distance, it falls through the terrain's mesh. 2022-11-25 09:08:24

it's a known bug on the unknown world forums

[grizzled shuttle]

hiii

[hazy parrot]

bruv since when were sea monkeys nice to you on day 2

[eternal garnet]

since you got that "headache"

[hazy parrot]

i got that on day 1...

[eternal garnet]

and then you avoided the monkeys, because "they will steal from me"

[hazy parrot]

bro my game chashed all i was trying to do is spawn 5000 hoopfish

[eternal garnet]

only 5000, sad game

[hazy parrot]

bruv

[eternal garnet]

each one has its own cpu process to direct movement

[hazy parrot]

i allso had 5000 squidsharks around me

[remote ocean]

Is it OK to ping a tester? Been waiting for Ignis to show up

[steel stream]

Well Ignis is also a mod, and pinging mods is usually not adviced unless really need mods to handle something

[storm imp]

ignis is a mod?

[broken badge]

Yes and no. Ignis isn’t a mod per se, in that he doesn’t have the green name/role.
But… Playtesters have moderation powers.
So in that sense, Ignis does moderate
Yet, not all Playtesters choose to use those moderation powers
And Playtesters have been given the opportunity to become mods should they wish, but few have taken the opportunity (like for example, Cat did)
So it gets a bit complicated😅

Hopefully that makes some sense
So you could say yes Ignis is a mod in the sense that Playtesters can moderate. But Ignis chooses to remain with the blue playtester name role

[steel shoal]

You may ping Ignis if you really need his assistance, I'm sure he won't mind. And if he does mind, tell him it was me

[remote ocean]

I was told he's the person I need to talk to about my little prawn suit issue.

[broken badge]

Ignis will respond if he's online and available. So it's worth a try

[remote ocean]

i'm gonna be playing for a while so i'll keep an eye open for his little green light

stupid prawn suit fell through the ground in the shallow part of NE delta island and is sitting on an invisible ledge in the middle of nothing inside the island. the closest i was able to get to it was like 50m

really don't want to disable achievements so i've built another with all of the upgrades for now. would be sweet to have a few suits around the map. i already have two seatrucks going. one for expeditions and another for mining

[storm imp]

curious.

[remote ocean]

i'm sure it's been said before but wow gathering lead is so tedious in below zero compared to the first game. why no lead ore?

why is every other node inside rock 😭

[chrome cedar]

Yeah, that’s an unfortunate glitch that never got fixed.

[remote ocean]

I'm just curious what the logic was behind removing lead ore nodes for the sequel