below-zero-chat

[high kernel]

Im so close to getting my first vehicle

I just need an advanced wiring kit

[quasi copper]

advanced wiring kits are a pain

[high kernel]

I need 1 more silver, and i broke 2 outcrops that can give silver and i got titanium from both

FINALLY

Where is the best place for silver tho ?

[eternal garnet]

the black biome around delta. name is thermal spires

[high kernel]

||Delta station dock?||

[eternal garnet]

delta is the island, because of the base on top

[high kernel]

Oh ok

[high kernel]

Any dangerous fauna there, should i take my new sea truck?

[eternal garnet]

the black crocs (cryptosuchus) are loud but not that bad. Die from 2 truck bumps too

take the truck everywhere. Upgrade depth on it soon

it can upgrade to go Anywhere

[high kernel]

What is this help

[eternal garnet]

yes that's a croc

[high kernel]

Oh

Should i try and kill 1 by bumping it?

I didn't even check out 1 artifact now i have to check out 2 of em

[remote turret]

What do i do after i find the organs and bones?

[eternal garnet]

Have you seen an alterra bridge?

[remote turret]

Ye

[eternal garnet]

repair it, then cross

[carmine bobcat]

not sure if this should be here or not

[remote turret]

Got all the bodypart blueprinrs, where do i craft them

[eternal garnet]

Deepest spot ingame

more:|| 960m. East end of crystal caves there's a different cave||

[remote turret]

How deep? The deepst i found was 800 meters

[remote turret]

Huh ok

[grave veldt]

Drop pod didn't deploy

What why does it spoiler it

[chrome cedar]

I think you’re missing something more important in that image…

[lucid gate]

I just spent 20 minutes tryna get the modfication station then i finally realized i already have it

[high kernel]

What does the thermos do i just crafted it and can't do anything w it

Also can sea monkeys give you diamonds?

[fervent bloom]

I think they give you diamonds, if you have them in one of your pinned recipes. I think the thermos can hold beverages like coffee, which presumably warms you up and gives you water.

[high kernel]

Ohhhhh

[lucid gate]

get a coffee machine then put the thermos in there for coffee

[high kernel]

So coffee machines actually have a use in bz?

[lucid gate]

yes

coffee gives +50 heat

[high kernel]

What about thirst?

[lucid gate]

idk i havent played below zero in awhile

[high kernel]

Yup a sea monkey just gave me a diamond

Cool

Why do they give me creepvine samples tho?

For food ?

[lucid gate]

i guess

[high kernel]

So i made a coffee machind how does it produce coffee? @lucid gate

[lucid gate]

you put the thermos in it

[high kernel]

Oh

[lucid gate]

did you do it?

[high kernel]

Yes but it didn't fill so i took it out but ima put it back

[lucid gate]

k

[high kernel]

It doesn't give me h2o instead it takes it away 💀

Deconstruct time

[lucid gate]

oh 💀

[steel stream]

Thermos is one option to stay warm when exploring dry land

[fervent bloom]

Which do you prefer: blue trivalve or gold?

[waxen trail]

gold

but both are good

[fervent bloom]

I only got one, a blue one. It was cute, though.

[steep spindle]

Can you get hit by the meteor shower in the intro?

[chrome cedar]

As far as I know, you can’t. I’ve had things hit a few feet in front of me though. Scary.

[crimson forge]

gotta admit below zero had better enviroments for unerground areas at least thats what i though ttill i found the alterante lava route in subnautica and completly changed my mind and said orginal is best

[fervent bloom]

The deep twisty bridges is one of my favorites.

[tacit comet]

They give you items related to your pinned items.

But sometimes random ones as well.

[broken badge]

Seamonkey items

Creepvine is among the default list

[carmine bobcat]

They are suddenly one of my favorite creatures in the franchise

[tacit thorn]

wait wait wait, the little buggers are afraid of flares???

[broken badge]

I guess so I’ve never tried a flare around one personally

Says they can steal if just lying around or whatever (unlit)

[next current]

Yeah. Pretty good if you literally just started your world or after you|| transfered Al-An.||

[bold monolith]

The wiki is wrong.

The default list is what they'll give you when they are not in their natural habitat. It's only quartz, copper and titanium.

They have a second list for when they are in specific biomes.

And a third for pinned ingredients, with a specific filter on biomes for ruby and nickel.

[bold monolith]

For instance, and that's where the confusion comes from, if they are in Arctic Kelp they'll give you quartz, copper, titanium, creepvine seed and sample. But if you find them inside the cave the list changes and it becomes quartz, copper, titanium, gold and silver.

[dusky stone]

Oh sorry typo

[high kernel]

Can sea monkeys give you items like kyanite or nickel ore?

[bold monolith]

Kyanite no, nickel yes if they are in Lilypads when pinned, Lilypads Crevices when it is not.

[vast idol]

I wish

[high kernel]

What is a "Spiral plant clipping" tho I need it and im sure i saw it but i didn't scan it cuz i thought it wouldn't help me with anything

[fervent bloom]

You can find them in Ventgardens.

[high kernel]

Can u send a pic of what a vent garden is

I dont wanna go in the wiki and get spoilered

Oh so like the reefbacks of bz

Which biome are they located in 🙂

Hmmm never went in this biome

[carmine bobcat]

You can also find it in the purple fire area, in the deeper caves

[frigid thorn]

It's very important

I wanna finish below zero but i don't where the fabricator caverns are

I know they are in a crystal cave

But in which crystal cave

[bold monolith]

There is only one.

It's a big cave, I grant you that.

[eternal garnet]

direction: ||east, down||

[frigid thorn]

Ok

[frigid thorn]

Thank you fyi

[slow wren]

i died in my hardest modifiers run

then i did the most logical thing to do.

[bold monolith]

Restarting?

[slow wren]

it is posted on streams and videos

[slow wren]

i went and beated up a shadow leviathan

[chrome cedar]

Yeah, it's some sort of backup signal in case the first doesn't trigger. Fairly common.

Sadly there isn't any logic to test that there isn't already such a beacon listed, or else that logic is broken.

[eternal garnet]

actually a small bug. normal

[chrome cedar]

Since you can't finish the game without getting there, I understand them wanting to make sure you know about it.

[wind geyser]

they never stole from me and once they started to do this i for some reason used them for items instead of looking around (i stopped doing this and beat the game)

[broken badge]

They steal whenever you don’t have ||Al-an||, so before you have your noggin buddy and they revert to stealing after you no longer have him as well

[wind geyser]

the reason they never stole from me was because i never approached them (i played for months without actually doing the story progrses so yea)

[broken badge]

although I just put away my held tool when I see one getting close, so yeah you can take steps to limit chances of them taking anything from you

[viral badger]

errrmmm

what is THAT 😨

[eternal garnet]

some blue

oh, it's a harmless vent garden jellyfish

[bold monolith]

It's a terrible screenshot that's what it is.

Here is a better one.

[broken badge]

Floating juvenile ventgarden

[eternal garnet]

so not the adult one

[viral badger]

that wont kill me right

[viral badger]

mb i didnt wanna get close lmao

[bold monolith]

It's harmless.

[carmine bobcat]

On my first run, I managed to scan every single fish. I'd just run up to every creature with a scanner, and then cry if they did too much damage

If you stand still, the crashfish doesn't leave the sulfur plant. I managed to scan it that way

[broken badge]

Have you finished BZ Andy or are you just starting?

[viral badger]

im js starting

[carmine bobcat]

I finished a few days ago

It's such a beautiful game, I loved it

[viral badger]

i finished the first game on the 12th of sept and i think i started bz on the 13th, but w school n everything i havent really played it

and im home tdy so i thought id try to progress 💀

[carmine bobcat]

I really like how I didn't have to look for outside help or anything to beat the game, just like the first

[viral badger]

yeah

idk im tryna look for laser cutter frags rn

i have 1/3

[carmine bobcat]

I found plenty in labs and sea monkey nests

[broken badge]

Mercury 2 wrecks, but before that, yeah sea monkey nests in kelp forests

[viral badger]

tyty

[carmine bobcat]

My new favorite item: the Thumper. It's a thumper used for thumping things. I love that the description. Also the toilet description

[viral badger]

it runs so laggy tho, i think thats my only thing rn

but my pc should be here at the end of the week

these right?

[broken badge]

That’s a sea monkey nest

[next current]

Andy, on a scale of 1 through 10, how would you rate the toilet in BZ?

[steel stream]

How about cooked nootfish and cured nootfish descriptions?

[steep spindle]

Where do I find Magnetite?
My search for it had me manage to wander all the way to the Crystal Caves

[eternal garnet]

deep lilypads is easiest. Or in pengling caves

[sharp isle]

The safest spot in my opinion is phi robotics behind the destruction

[steep spindle]

Jesus the wiki wasn't kidding when it said the aggro radius on Shadow Leviathans was high

[sacred jungle]

The new logo looks so nice

[steep spindle]

That thing had spotted me before it was even in my render distance

[sharp isle]

The corners of my large room are empty, what should I put in them?

[eternal garnet]

lantern trees

table, 3 chairs

[broken badge]

Pots in general look nice

Or make little desk area, or lab area or whatever

[eternal garnet]

pinball machine. No, there isn't one

[steep spindle]

Made it to the Deep Lilypads and oh god the Mesmers got bigger

[sharp isle]

I love the lilypad biome

[carmine bobcat]

Absolutely hated them. They were noot funny at all

[carmine bobcat]

57

[sharp isle]

9

[steep spindle]

Wandered around for like 20 minutes and only found 2 Magnetite
But you know what, it's enough
Gonna get the Scanner Room HUD chip
Then come back later and set up an outpost for a more in-depth search

[viral badger]

this game is beautiful tbh

[high kernel]

Should i make outposts bc i saw lots of ppl do it but i only got 1 main base and that's it

[viral badger]

if ive already been here should they disappear? because i just turned off their location

[high kernel]

Subnautica better

[viral badger]

gameplay wise, i prefer subnautica (so far) but the scenery in bz is unmatched imo

[high kernel]

I only like Subnautica cuz of the seamoth, bz is an L cuz they decided to let the ||prawn suit|| in this game instead of the seamoth

[chrome cedar]

They ‘should’ disappear once you reach that location, I think you actually need to be within a few meters of wherever that beacon is. But the ||Pilot|| one is a great market to have turned on to help you navigate later.

[viral badger]

um!

[viral badger]

yeah, ive been to both im p sure, but i know ive been to the ||pilot|| one quite a few times

[chrome cedar]

Same.

[viral badger]

after the ||greenhouse||, am i able to get to the back room of ||marguerits base?||

[fervent bloom]

You should be, I think.

[eternal garnet]

yes!

[chrome cedar]

Some interesting scannables there, nothing necessary though.

[broken badge]

The beacon doesn’t go away but the exclamation mark (!) should go away for places you haven’t visited, like architect locations iirc

[viral badger]

errrrrrmmm

[chrome cedar]

Instant BBQ

[steep spindle]

So
Smaller fish reproduce automatically in aquariums, right
Or is that specifically in Alien Containment Units

[viral badger]

errrrmmmm

i died (from hypothermia) but my screen wont stop being white

oh nvm

[broken badge]

Can only have breeding occur in containment

[viral badger]

it finally loaded lmao

[steep spindle]

Rip
Was trying to farm Bladderfish cuz I was tired of going out and catching them for water lol

[chrome cedar]

Once you get the water filtration machine that won’t be an issue.

[jovial anchor]

Hello

Does anyone know where I can find more sleeper modules? I found only one in the lily pad islands biome

[broken badge]

They’re in an area in the purple vents section right around where the cheli patrols
The aquarium is in lilypads

[jovial anchor]

Sighh yayy big red here I come

[unkempt zenith]

thats a visual bug, it can't harm you. it's very friendly

[chrome cedar]

Any time I can’t find what I’m looking for I build a scanner room.

[viral badger]

of course! 🥰🥰

[fervent bloom]

For my second game, I'm not eating fish. I'm also trying not to hurt anything, even when they try to kill me.

[carmine bobcat]

You hurt things?? How evil

[eternal garnet]

in a custom game, you can turn off fish eating, and even creature aggression. You can convert your game to custom also. Options

[fervent bloom]

Yeah, that's what I'm doing. Thanks, though. I don't mind creatures trying to eat me, I just won't slice a cryptosuchus with a survival knife if it attacks me.

[carmine bobcat]

Poor cryptocurrency :(

[fervent bloom]

Somehow, they're almost cute.

[broken badge]

They loud tho

[fervent bloom]

That's actually good. They can't sneak up on you, that way.

[tacit thorn]

is there an option to disable eating uncooked food? Misclicked a fish once, haunts me till today.

[eternal garnet]

no

you can disable eating animals

[tacit thorn]

but no cooked fish then?

[fervent bloom]

I think not. There's no way to only eat cooked fish.

[steep spindle]

Where can I find Marg's first log?
Read the second and third ones to find out how she made it here, and good god
But there's something I'm missing
There were at least three very big very blue obstacles between there and here

[eternal garnet]

not sure where 1 is, but one is on her power plant, near home in a cave. Southwest? dunno. One is in her bedroom

[steep spindle]

Noted, thank

Can't believe they made such a big deal outta temperature and then didn't give us an equippable thermometer

[chrome cedar]

It’s in your HUD…

100 is warm, 0 is dead.

[steep spindle]

No I mean I wanna be able to check the temperature like I can in a vehicle

[chrome cedar]

It’s the future, they simplified the temp scale for you. None of that Fahrenheit or Celsius nonsense.

[steep spindle]

Currently based on the Delta HQ Island
And I was wondering if I could grow warm-climate plants like Lantern Fruits and Chinese Potatoes outside in the heated caves around the place
Checked with my Prawn and no, doesn't appear so

[fierce olive]

For a while i though subnautica was dead but it seems like it isnt

[steep spindle]

Speaking of which I love how this series is all about the water but in both games it's entirely viable to build your base on land

[chrome cedar]

True. Variety is good.

[fervent bloom]

I've never built a land base, but I'd like to change that.

[chrome cedar]

There are some great spots that offer some interesting options.

I usually make a land base that has a vertical connector that leads to an underwater part of the base for vehicle docking and such.

[steep spindle]

^

[fervent bloom]

That seems like a great plan.

I was thinking of building on the arctic side of the Glacial Connection.

[chrome cedar]

Could be interesting. The two spots I’ve done were up on an iceberg west of Delta, and one on Delta itself. The Delta one I don’t have any screenshots handy and it’s on my PlayStation so can’t easily get to that right now.

[steep spindle]

I could post some of mine later
It's a bit due for an expansion but it's serving me pretty well thus far

[chrome cedar]

I’ve built at that location a few times, some small variations each time. You can only build a certain number of levels above water or land in BZ, it changed from SN.

[steep spindle]

Oh jesus
Ok we're talking creative mode lol
In that case you considered building up on the ice shelf along the void?
There's no invisible wall or anything keeping you from getting up there if you approach from the south
And once you're up you got all the space you could ever dream of and zero security concerns

[chrome cedar]

No, I always play in Survival mode. 😎

Major resource gathering…

[steep spindle]

What could you even need that many Large Rooms for

[chrome cedar]

Alien Containments. Breeding lots of critters. Mainly Penglings, love those guys.

[steep spindle]

Makes sense ye

[chrome cedar]

Plus it just looks cool…. 😎

[steep spindle]

It does indeed

[chrome cedar]

Slightly different iceberg base.

[fervent bloom]

That's amazing! I have never seen so many large rooms together.

[chrome cedar]

Great flat area out back for lots of Penglings to play.

[fervent bloom]

Is it getting struck by lightning?

[steep spindle]

But yeah, getting up on the ice shelf in the north east is entirely doable in survival
A bit tedious and it requires a lot of resources but it can be done

[chrome cedar]

Yup! I saw a storm was coming and was just hoping to get lightning in the area for a pic, got lucky with that shot.

I actually had to build a vertical tower a bit away on another piece of ice to get that shot. I can never remember how to move the camera in survival mode. 🤦‍♂️

[fervent bloom]

It seems a bit far from everything, but it's very cool.

[chrome cedar]

Many folks build in inconvenient locations. But it’s fun…. I’ll spend many days doing a base, trying things, gathering resources, moving things around.

Will need to try a new run soon with another good base somewhere. Need to think of another spot.

I’ve been doing speedruns the last few weeks, that’s been fun.

[fervent bloom]

Believe me, I know. I'm building in the Deep Twisty Bridges.

[chrome cedar]

Haven’t built there yet. May do some thinking on that.

[fervent bloom]

I'm not so deep that I could run into the ||squidshark||, but there are plenty of brute sharks around. I'm at somewhere around 180 meters deep.

[chrome cedar]

I’d need room to get my seatruck in and out. May have to dock it up higher from the main base.

I usually have 6 modules attached…

[fervent bloom]

There are actually some pretty big open spaces between the rocks and coral bridges.

I often have quite a few, too.

[tacit comet]

Can I ask what modules you use?

I usually don’t use more than Fab, Storage, Storage, Docking.

You too jimbo

[fervent bloom]

Once I've got all the scans, I usually have a fabricator, a storage, and docking. I build the sleeper and aquarium modules, too.

[chrome cedar]

1 fab, 4 storage, and the docking module.

[fervent bloom]

You have four storage? That's something to consider...

[chrome cedar]

You saw the pics of my base? I go through a lot of titanium and glass. LoL

[fervent bloom]

I believe it... I do too.

[chrome cedar]

I go out and mine stuff, fabricate to condense down, and don’t come back till I’m full.

Then repeat as necessary.

[fervent bloom]

That's efficient. I usually grab what I need when I need it.

[chrome cedar]

Lockers with the overflow…

[fervent bloom]

That is a LOT of lockers. How hard is it to find the materials you need, after you build this expansively?

[chrome cedar]

I’d literally barely scratched the surface there.

Plenty more deeper.

[broken badge]

What’s in “compass”

[eternal garnet]

storing a lot of compasses for their parts

[fervent bloom]

Do you try to balance the inventory, or just grab everything you can?

[chrome cedar]

Usually at that point I’m looking for specifics like titanium, lithium, and quartz, but will usually grab things that are convenient if I have space.

[viral badger]

does going to this do anything? bc ive been here but nothing has happened

[waxen trail]

It's a location for you to check out, learn some information, scan some new blueprints

[eternal garnet]

Phi robotics is nearby, west, up some stairs

[viral badger]

ohhh okay, i was wlaready there

i explored all that before i got the beacon lol

i went through a bunch of caves idk

[jolly nebula]

i just beat the game (:

id show my base, but i live in my seatruck

[eternal garnet]

[spiral kiln]

I have accidently beached my seatruck

How do i get it out

[steep spindle]

Where's a good spot to look for Prawn Grapple Arm frags
I've got the Drill Arm, one half of the standard Leviathan Hunter's toolkit
And I'm looking to get the other before I make my big push into the Cystal Caves

[spiral kiln]

Going to assume you mean prawn

Seems that you cna find the fragments in a monkey nest in the lily pad zone crevice

[chrome cedar]

Push it?

[west mountain]

Push it back with prawn

[worthy remnant]

Hello wassup guys does the game have anything new?

[west mountain]

Hi, guess nothing since the last update

[worthy remnant]

Which Is

[west mountain]

Seatruck dock

was the biggest one so far

[worthy remnant]

When is subnautica 3 out

[west mountain]

Still a couple of years away

[steel stream]

We don't even know what the title of next game will be...I've understood that it will more likely be Subnautica 2 than Subnautica 3...

[steel stream]

There is no such thing...the wrecks are from Mercury 2

Yes, you need to find databox in ||twisty bridges||

Look again your stored pda message: all wrecks are from vessel named Mercury 2

[west mountain]

All three wreck pieces are from the Mercury 2, same ship that is brocken up upon launch from the planet. You can go inside all of them, indeed you have to visit them in order to make story progress.

There is lots of stuff to find and one story relevant item too (3 scans necessary). So take your time to fully explore them.

No, not tell you to go there. The story asks for an item and one PDA suggest that there are shipwrecks with stuff to find. So you would have to piece those two information together. But once you find the shipwrecks it is just logical to explore them. But the story does not force you to do but then no progress is possible. Some people find the item before the story asks for it.

Correct, a bit difficult to navigate with it but it will do. Craft some beacons to mark interesting locations. It makes it more convenient to go back to them.

Correct, as @steel stream wrote above in a data box Twisty Bridges

Correct, Twisty Bridges

The biome, where the coral bridges are twisted 🙂

[fervent bloom]

I think there are multiple pieces of the Mercury II.

[steel stream]

If you have compass, you can also look at the direction of your lifepod beacon (or any beacon you choose) and take screenshot. Then you have approximate depth + distance and direction from a known location.

[eternal garnet]

use esc - unstuck. Up to 10 times.

[carmine bobcat]

Yes, you will have infinite oxygen too until you leave

Had that happen to me when I boarded the Snowfox, it clipped through the ground and I had to kinda swim to it and then out of the iceberg

I forgot about the unstuck button

[eternal garnet]

it's a waypoint tool

[summer oar]

What is the deal with the Titan Holefish?

Like why does a damn Holefish get a large size and how does it work?

I want a Titan Ghost Leviathan 😦

[lucid gate]

rate the farm 0/10

[carmine bobcat]

2/10. Not much variety, boring organization, at least the foundation is in a good place. Would love to see more flora, more corals and a bit of chaos to make it feel natural and diverse

[steep spindle]

So I'd seen playthroughs online prior to my own, so I decided to see how far I could get into the game without getting what's-his-name shoved in my head
Evidently pretty far, made it all the way to the bottom of the Fabricator Caves where I'm pretty sure I gotta build the man's body without ever meeting him
And amazingly there was even a unique line of dialogue

I intend to keep going today, see if I can resolve the whole plotline with Sam without him
Best-case scenario for me
There's some kinda alternate ending where I do what I came here to do and then leave without getting caught up in anything greater

[steel stream]

Follow the markers, there will be a tool to scan at the end

[steep spindle]

Goes to show how underused that tool is when people don't even recognize it

[steel stream]

Except that you cannot ||access the architect facilites without Al-An||

[steep spindle]

Yet it got to come back and not the Stasis Rifle

[steel stream]

One of the tools was owerpowered, the other wasn't...

[carmine bobcat]

Hot take: Pathfinder tool is more useful

[steep spindle]

Oh and another thing, did they remove Medkit Fabricators too?
Or have I just not found the databox for it yet? Ik there was the lid of one in Marg's base

[carmine bobcat]

It apparently was removed

[viral knot]

it was removed

[carmine bobcat]

I am happy with that change, though

[steel stream]

I quess many players tried to scan it on the base...

[viral knot]

including me

[steel stream]

Lockers full of (free) medkits in the first game...

[broken badge]

Yeah fr when I had medkit fabricator in Subnautica I always ended up with tons of extra medkits lol

[carmine bobcat]

When you're exploring an area, and suddenly all the boxes have med kits

Real panic, that foreshadowing was great

[steep spindle]

I've got a Prawn fully equipped for Leviathan-wrangling, I fear nothing

[carmine bobcat]

You probably fear time limits, you're gonna waste a lot of time

[broken badge]

Perimeter defense works very well, no wrangling necessary

[fervent bloom]

By my understanding, they grow that big because they need to be a good home for the symbiotes. I think the hole is lined with gills that filter oxygen out of the water.

[steep spindle]

It is if I wanna make sure those edgier discount Ghosts down there stay off my back

Also recently noticed the Shadow Leviathan and Ice Worm share a lot of physical attributes and idk what to do with this information

[carmine bobcat]

You could say the same about the many, many eels in the first game

I like how we only got 2 eels in this game, and they feel very different

[steep spindle]

Not just that
They also make similar sounds, and both have a wide triangular formation on their foreheads

[steep spindle]

Ironically tho I find gameplay-wise the creatures feel a lot less diverse
Visually, yeah, they all look amazing
But I feel like too many of them are passive compared to before

[carmine bobcat]

One is the 1000 degree knife challenge, and the other is just pointy. I did not find the sounds similar at all

Ice Worm has one of the most distinct sounds in the game

Shadow Leviathan feels more like the Sea Dragon than the ghost, honestly

[steep spindle]

Sea Dragon couldn't spot you from anywhere near that distance
Also Shadow doesn't have a projectile

[carmine bobcat]

It has a grab, it's very aggressive and loud and overwhelming, and then you get to see 2 at once

[fervent bloom]

I liked a lot of the concept art creatures that didn't get used. For example, the sand spear.

[steep spindle]

Honestly I see a closer resemblance to Reapers then
Which is funny cuz the Chelicerate already feels like a knock-off Reaper

[carmine bobcat]

I liked the Cheli, it's so pretty

I love the shape

[steep spindle]

Personally I wish they brought back Ghost Leviathans specifically for their old job as guardians of the Void
Idk how far from the edge of the first game's crater they tend to wander but I reckon they have the mass that their territory could extend that far
Especially if there's even more of them than the 3 we see

Plus we don't have any returning Leviathans besides arguably that Reaper skull

[carmine bobcat]

The void ghosts only spawn when the player goes out of bounds, and are always aggressive, they don't have any paths or distances

I think seeing 3 void ghosts at once, lore-wise, is an extremely rare occurrence. They're very solitary and filter feed, it'd be like seeing multiple whale sharks at once

[steep spindle]

And speaking of returning creatures I am very prone to going on tangents, apologies
Maybe the Crashfish could've stood for a bit more use than they got
But I feel like they often appear in places where they just don't work in this game
Why're they showing up in open areas like around the Delta Island or the east Arctic, where they're super easy to avoid
I would've put them in tight spaces where their kamikaze behavior works better to their advantage
Like the western ice tunnels, or the Lilypad Root caves
And also nowhere near as deep as the Crystal Caves, how and why are they nearly a kilometer below sea level

[steep spindle]

Makes sense ye

[carmine bobcat]

Crashfish in open areas kinda work, I think. I don't know how much damage they deal, but I suppose the last cargo module would suffer a bit of damage

I was expecting them to be in very tight caves like the ones near the ship

I was also expecting the PDA entry to be different, it asks us to use Stasis or Repulsion (we don't have any)

[summer oar]

The thing is lot of the biomes are too nice.

Electric eels, sand sharks etc. They don't do much.

Stalkers are really easy to kill and for some reason they took them away from below zero. Fine we are in the arctic but don't replace them with a pocket thief cutey

[broken badge]

I don’t really agree. There’s brute sharks, those cryptosuchus, and worst of all for me, the lilypaddlers And you’ve also got the squidshark, and spiky traps. So there’s “danger” lurking around, I don’t think it’s “too nice” at all. Oh and brinewings as well in some areas

[chrome cedar]

There's no good reason that everything needs to be a mortal thread, that's generally not realistic. Granted, there may be some planet out there where literally everything will try to kill you...

[carmine bobcat]

I've always thought the bz soundtrack was inferior compared to the original, but I've been listening to it to use in my Subnautica short film (mainly because I don't feel comfortable using music from the original person) and like, wow the bz soundtrack is amazing. It's sounds so much better than the original like I just love it

[waxen trail]

I love the BZ soundtrack

[broken badge]

I use it for my home massage therapy for background music (I’ve been getting massage therapy for about a year now, due to my two major surgeries I’ve had and need for rehabilitation) and it’s relaxing and beautiful

So I agree, I didn’t like it as much at first, but it’s really grown on me as well

[fervent bloom]

I wouldn't say pretty, but it's definitely brutal and terrifying.

[carmine bobcat]

Even putting my biases about the creators aside, I feel it's just superior in every way. It feels like actual music, while the soundtrack in the first game just kind of feels like a cool beat. When I listen to the Subnautica soundtrack I think "yeah that's some cool music". When I listen to the below zero soundtrack I feel like I'm on sector zero, I feel the cold and harsh climate, the beauty of the world. It's amazing. I might not like the game but it's soundtrack is truely beautiful

[waxen trail]

Tree spires, twisty bridges, and lilypad music are fantastic

[carmine bobcat]

That and also Twisty Bridges fits so well with my short film as well lol

I honestly need to replay bz. I haven't played it since release. I hated it then but maybe my opinions have changed over time

[carmine bobcat]

I do believe they're pretty. They have such a pretty shape, and the colors/glowing ✨

[waxen trail]

I like it more than the original

[carmine bobcat]

I liked it more than the previous one as well, especially being able to place hatch stairs in foundations 🙏

[waxen trail]

I love the chelicerate, favourite leviathan behind shadow on 4546B. I also respect it for not being "serpent leviathan #10"

[carmine bobcat]

So true, there are too many eels in the crater

[waxen trail]

I dislike the overuse of making everything a snake

[carmine bobcat]

My main problem with the game is the story, I just found all the characters to be so annoying and it wasnt that well written. The gameplay I didn't mind because I kinda knew it was gonna be subnautica but less, though the snow fox was atrocious

[waxen trail]

Alan story is amazing, Sam story sucks. And it's dumb that the A plot becomes the B plot

[broken badge]

My only gripe with the music is there is little variation in how music is actually used in the game. For example, when you’re in lilypads, like upper lilypads, there’s only 2 music tracks that play iirc, and they play on repeat over and over. And it gets so monotonous it drives me crazy and I have to turn the music off. This is far from the only instance where this happens. I did some checking and there’s an area where only one track plays. There’s others with very little variety too. So yeah, so many tracks but many are designated for special “occurrences” in the game, so it leaves little variety for other biomes and so you get a lot of repeat musical experiences (and being someone with a lot of musical experience/ear for music, it does get on my nerves)

[carmine bobcat]

Yeah, a lot of the tracks in the base game were designed in a way to be used anywhere, but most of the below zero tracks are for specific biomes so it just makes them repetitive in game after a while. Though that's more a fault of the game than the soundtrack

[waxen trail]

I've never noticed tbh, maybe I just gotten used to it lol

Original SB has a lot of tracks shared between biomes

[broken badge]

Oh yeah I’m not faulting the soundtrack, it’s down to sound design 💯

[carmine bobcat]

I noticed some plot holes in the story, like Al-An mentioning his species was like strings in an instrument, playing in harmony, then getting confused over the Jukebox, but I only realized that way after I beat the game

[chrome cedar]

I agree that the story could have been improved, and I know from what's been said publicly that the developers had some struggles in that area, people leaving, disagreements, trying to stitch various pieces together. I also recognize that this is just a game, and the story is only meant to direct you to specific pieces of the puzzle, and there is still a lot you can do outside of the story. So ultimately, the story isn't the real factor on if I like the game or not.

[carmine bobcat]

The story would have been so much better if the ending to Sam's story wasn't so stupid. Like for a game really trying to push the mega corp bad narrative (which is already pretty generic for a sci-fi story) they ended up making the mega corp look good?

[broken badge]

The story definitely has some weak parts, plot holes. But I still was able to enjoy the game especially since I never played early access so I never knew any different

[chrome cedar]

The dialog, I agree, was lacking in a number of places with how it was written.

[waxen trail]

Yes, it was so dumb cause they were building towards Alterra Evil, big corporate cover-up. But no, it was literally negligence that caused her demise

[carmine bobcat]

I personally really liked the plot twist, Alterra doesn't look that bad

[waxen trail]

And they expect you to sympathize with a terrorist, which I prefer not to lol

[chrome cedar]

Al-An could have played a more active role in watching what Robin was doing and offered comments or criticism of her actions (Was it really necessary to hit all those creatures with your sea truck, etc)

[waxen trail]

All while Marguerit gaslit Sam into doing all of this, I'm surprised Robin has no beef with Marguerit after reading the pdas

[chrome cedar]

Is Alterra really the evil corporation we're lead to believe? Or just spin from disgruntled workers?

[carmine bobcat]

I wish she commented after reading the PDAs, yes, it felt horrible reading the craziest thing ever and then no reaction

I feel the biggest issue was that Unknown Worlds just weren't good with narratives. Subnautica doesn't really have a story, it has these details that piece together for you to finish the game. But it's not a story, there is no protagonist or character development. And it worked well for that game. But in below zero they tried to actually intertwine a narrative into the game with actual characters, problem is it seems they just aren't good at that so it falls flat. Subnautica works best when the story is a backdrop to the gameplay, not the other way round

[carmine bobcat]

It's so funny because Alterra actually made her look good. They say she died in an accident when she actually got herself killed. They helped her

[waxen trail]

They should have just scrapped the Sam story line after the 3rd time they tried to make it work, it clearly had problems through all phases of development, and needed so many rewrites. Should have dumped it and focused on making Alan's story better, Alan's story generally stayed the same throughout development

All they did was make him nicer lol

[carmine bobcat]

I like this portrayal of Alterra. Although the higher ups are like these scary heartless entities, the workers are very human, and working for Alterra is kind of a lifestyle. Playing Amogus with your colleagues, helping other teams, it feels so much like an indie dev team

[bold monolith]

||Marguerit should have stayed dead. They should have used someone from the Mercury instead. Then you don't have to use some plot hole to explain her presence here.||

[broken badge]

I think it wasn’t so bad for their first attempt at a narrative styled adventure, especially given the story had to be rewritten and whatever other challenges came up (I wasn’t around for the early access stuff)

[waxen trail]

I agree, they also made me dislike Marguerit cause she gaslit Sam into performing acts of terrorism

[carmine bobcat]

It's pretty clear unknown worlds didn't really know where the story of the subnautica series was supposed to go, and just kept flinging ideas at the wall until they started running out of time. Which is a shame

[carmine bobcat]

It also kinds defeats the whole poetic end to the Degasi crew. In their attempt to harness nature they ended up getting themselves killed. Except suprise no they didn't they are halfway across the planet now

[broken badge]

I don’t think there was a gaslighting dynamic, Maida and Sam didn’t know each other that long or have that close of a connection, but whatever I suppose

[waxen trail]

Just focusing on Al-an and the architects would have made the narrative so much better, the Sam plot drags BZ down more than adds any positives

[carmine bobcat]

||I didn't like Marg in the first game, now we just got more reasons to dislike her||

[waxen trail]

She constantly added fuel to fire for Sam, the greenhouse PDA gives off that feeling.

And that's what I took away from it

[carmine bobcat]

The worst part about the Sam plot is you don't actually need to complete it to finish the game. It is entirely seperate from the Alan plot, they don't intertwine at the end like a good narrative should

[broken badge]

Yeah the first time around I finished the game without figuring out what happened to Sam

[waxen trail]

That's what I mean by the A plot becomes the B plot, it's crazy

[carmine bobcat]

That screams lack of PDA reading 👁️

If you just focus on going deeper, instead of following the PDA, you might skip her plot

[broken badge]

I read the PDAs but there’s no in game requirement to finish up Sam’s story, no prompts

[carmine bobcat]

||Al-An literally asks you if you've done everything you wanted to do before using the Arch||

I really hope Subnautica 3 comes with a strong plot

[chrome cedar]

I'm still not clear on why Marg wants to stay on this world so badly, and why she considers it all 'her land'. Surely there would be easier planets to live on, and she was originally just along as security. Seems she would have had a decent life out there with more opportunities.

[broken badge]

That’s pretty vague

[chrome cedar]

2

[waxen trail]

I like BZ more because of soundtrack, biome design, and awesome leviathans hostile and friendly. I like the Al-an/Robin dynamic a lot I wish there was more of it. I will also defend the seatruck till my last breath

[broken badge]

And can mean a lot of different things

[waxen trail]

Gtg, was fun chattin folks

[carmine bobcat]

That just sounds like a "are you sure you want to finish the game?" Message

[broken badge]

Exactly

[carmine bobcat]

Eh I still consider this a sequel

[chrome cedar]

Press any key to continue...

[carmine bobcat]

That line made me think about all I've done in the game, and what I think was possibly left. Apparently I only missed the eggs, which I completely forgot were a thing, I thought I had 100%

A self-reflecting moment

[bold monolith]

Did you get the squidshark egg?

[carmine bobcat]

Is it blue with 2 tendrils?

I don't know if Snow Stalkers and Pengwings have eggs, but I didn't get their eggs either

[eternal garnet]

yes it is

[carmine bobcat]

I got 2 because I wasn't sure what fish it was so when I find out they'd have a friend

I need to hatch them, my base is in a bad place, I'll make a better one elsewhere

[bold monolith]

Because the egg is rarer than the trivalve.

[carmine bobcat]

what.

I got 2, didn't get more because I didn't have enough storage

[chrome cedar]

There are only 2…

[steel stream]

Based on what I've read, you might have them all...if we're talking squidsharks

[carmine bobcat]

I assumed there were more

;-;

But they were easier to find than trivalve eggs, I still have no idea where to find them, and I don't want any help please thank you

[eternal garnet]

when I released a hatched squiddy, it bnroke my base. But that was in early access

[carmine bobcat]

Imma do a trip around the whole map

I'm so excited to find out which eggs are what

I forgor about what a few of them were

[lucid gate]

||do you know there are squidshark eggs?||

[carmine bobcat]

||read just a very tiny bit above||

[lucid gate]

im tired 💀

so thats a yes then

[carmine bobcat]

I have both, how adorbs

[lucid gate]

nice

below zero with no fog is weird

[eternal garnet]

you get to see the low-poly version terrain

[broken badge]

Same happens when you turn off weather effects, it looks very…”stark”

[carmine bobcat]

Looks sad, almost

[broken badge]

Yeah

[tacit thorn]

Marg is an old lady with a shotgun. Let her live on her ranch.

[steep spindle]

So uh
How does ACU work in this game
Ik before you had to put plants in it that matched the native biome of whatever you were trying to hatch
Problem there is
Very few biomes in this game are identifiable by their plant life

[deep kettle]

Eggs don't require any kind of plants though. Not in this game nor the first game 😛

Just put an egg in the ACU, wait some game days and that's it.

[steel stream]

If there was a time when plants were needed for eggs to hatch, that must have been a long time ago (even for the first game)...although that would be something the pda entries point to, and an interesting concept

[chrome cedar]

Right, I’ve never seen that as a requirement.

[bold monolith]

I don't know if I can really talk about it but she was more proactive in the first iteration.

[chrome cedar]

Does that mean she had hooves where her eyelashes should have been? 😱

[bold monolith]

She didn't want to stay.

[chrome cedar]

That’s a 180 then…

[steep spindle]

Also that random chunk of Architect tech she lets Preston chew on used to be a McGuffin we wanted

[waxen trail]

Yeah I find it funny they kept it in the game for him to chew on, and didn't let us even use it

Not even for the lategame facilities

[steep spindle]

Do any of the facilities require tablets of any kind in this game?
Or are they all locked behind getting brain-blasted

[bold monolith]

There is no tablet.

[chrome cedar]

Which is a curious thing when you think about it...

[steep spindle]

Weird
Cuz I'm pretty sure all of them are still in the game
Even the red and white ones that never got used in the first place

[chrome cedar]

Only if you use the cheat codes I think.

[lime grove]

There are no tablets to pick up and craft

[steep spindle]

Yeah but still

[chrome cedar]

So, not really in the game...

[steep spindle]

Still in the code
A long with a lot of other leftover stuff

[chrome cedar]

That's a whole separate issue. LOL

[steep spindle]

Stasis Rifle is still in perfect condition, Seamoth still functions even if it has no textures
I think the Repulsion Cannon is still around but don't quote me on that
Even the Terraformer is still obtainable even if it doesn't work w/o mods

[chrome cedar]

It would have been fun if some of these were included, I agree. My main annoyance is that you have to hunt around for fragments and databoxes. And there are dropped PDAs everywhere, but apparently no central computer system. Everyone is going around with iPads but there is no internet or main server they connect with. But even these PDAs should have more than just a single entry, same for the databoxes. I know that would have drastically changed the gameplay, but it would have made a lot more sense than finding all sorts of broken bits you needed to scan.

At least for the basic items. Save the scanning and downloading of blueprints for upgrade or enhancements. All the things that the tinkering engineers might have been doing in their free time, which is fairly realistic.

Apologies for drifting off topic...

[waxen trail]

It would be really cool if the PDA allowed you to make your own entries, A personal diary would be neat

[deep kettle]

Could just use a notes app if you really want to 😛
If you play on Steam their overlay has a built in note app now.

[waxen trail]

And I could just play my own music from another app instead of using the in-game jukebox, always better when it's a feature :)

[bold monolith]

I would say no but I know each of its locations so I might be biased.

[eternal garnet]

best place to find it, because it has something else you need: twisty bridges canyon, depth 120m, by a small building. Eastern half

[bold monolith]

The best but probably not the easiest. You're right since it has another blueprint it's the one to advice, but I think most people find it on the island.

It would be interesting to know.

[eternal garnet]

here

yes, outside the base door

yes

this is common, because you see a base, you rush inside

er, go to my picture instead, because of reasons

I am capturing a better pic

[broken badge]

Also you can scan a window where you get that habitat builder and that databox

[eternal garnet]

builder tool and more

[bold monolith]

Yes. Try to b.. I mean, upgrade the game.

[chrome cedar]

Probably should be spoilers for the images?

[broken badge]

Twisty bridges is early game, so it’s not really spoilers

[chrome cedar]

True, yet many people miss that spot.

[eternal garnet]

yes, which is very sad.

[chrome cedar]

There are three spots for habitat builder that I’m aware of. Depends on what my game goals are on which I go for first.

[eternal garnet]

they suffer without that o2 upgrade for too long

[chrome cedar]

Oxygen…

[bold monolith]

You're missing two.

[eternal garnet]

in my picture, yes. And ONLY there

[broken badge]

When I first played, I was all the way over into lilypads looking for Maida and didn’t have a rebreather so yeah I feel that pain

[chrome cedar]

There are 5 habitat builders?

[lime grove]

I know 4 locations

[chrome cedar]

||Delta, Zero||, and that ||Twisty|| one are all I recall.

[bold monolith]

Two in the mining site.

[next current]

That's fair.

[lime grove]

I knew there was 1 in there, didn't notice the second one

[chrome cedar]

Oh yeah, I think I remember one there. It’s been a bit.

Obviously by the time you get that deep you’ve already scanned one, unless you’re in creative mode, then it doesn’t matter anyway.

[bold monolith]

Steam, Epic, MS Store?

Are you sure?

SNAppData/SavedGames.

[eternal garnet]

game folder

[bold monolith]

Know that nobody likes dishonest people though.

I know the version you're playing. And it isn't Steam.

[chrome cedar]

I totally missed the outside one there…

[bold monolith]

You know, your Steam game list is also public.

Let's make a deal then. Send a feedback report. And if your version is legitimate I won't ban you.

But the version in your screenshot told me enough already.

[chrome cedar]

🍿

[bold monolith]

Press F8 in the game, then click on a smiley.

[tacit thorn]

You have access to that, Ignis?

[bold monolith]

Everyone has, Tomtores.

[tacit thorn]

Oh no. That means there are couple angry reports from me floating around somehwre 😅

[bold monolith]

https://snexpansion.unknownworlds.com/feedback/ticket?id=651c88940729c2d5e41229a3 Is it you?

[eternal garnet]

geforce GT 730. What a speed monster

[bold monolith]

I assume it is, but I don't know what you're trying to prove here.

I figured that much.

For the record, the current experimental version on Steam is 49565.

And not the two you used.

Also, by sending a feedback I know for sure your version is not legitimate.

[tacit thorn]

isnt it a bit weird it ends up on publicly viewable site? It probably was described in some kind of eula I didn't have time to read, but still, not expecting the contents of my reports ending up on public internet

[bold monolith]

Were you that angry in your report? :þ

Don't worry though, even if there are some information it isn't possible to know it's you unless I know your SteamID.

It's a hash.

[tacit thorn]

my steam id would be triavial to find. just look up this totally unique username.

[bold monolith]

Sure but you won't look at every profile page and try to hash it to check if it matches.

And the information you send is all on the page above, it's just what you said, your position when you said it, your hardware. Nothing else that could be a privacy concern.

[chrome cedar]

So I’m guessing he had some sort of hacked version?

[bold monolith]

The screenshot they sent had the version 49535.

[chrome cedar]

Ah

[bold monolith]

Which was on Steam between April 24 and 26.

As you know you can't prevent the automatic updates.

[chrome cedar]

Yup

[bold monolith]

Then they asked if the current version was 49550 and tried to report a feedback with this.

[tacit thorn]

you can block them on steam. unless agme checks internally like some do

[bold monolith]

But the current one is 49565.

And with the feedback I know for sure. Also their game's list is public on Steam and there was no Below Zero.

[chrome cedar]

Hmmm.

So, pirated version from someone.

[bold monolith]

You can't prevent it unless you're in offline mode for a while.

Changing the manifest does nothing.

[eternal garnet]

there are a lot of versions on shady sites. it's not from "someone". Their origin is steam

[bold monolith]

If there is an update it will download it.

[chrome cedar]

👍

I see downloads every now and then on Steam but don’t see my version change, so I have. I clue what’s going on in the background.

[bold monolith]

What you can do is download only when you'll play.

[eternal garnet]

you can not however, stop a download, except via offline mode. For months in this case.

[bold monolith]

The experimental build had daily updates until a few months ago.

[chrome cedar]

Mine still shows 49371

[bold monolith]

49371 is the stable build.

[tacit thorn]

pretty sure you can disable updates in steam. and there are command line tools to get specific game version published on steam.

[bold monolith]

Try it then.

You'll see it isn't possible.

[chrome cedar]

Assumed that. But I still see downloads happen…

[tacit thorn]

Did this for different game. To undo a patch where devs messed up badly before disaappearing. did not try it with subnautica. But if game does not check itself, it can be done.

[bold monolith]

As for Depot Downloader, the fact the experimental build had daily update would overwrite them.

Yes because the updates were sporadic.

For instance now if you use depot downloader to download an old manifest, as long as an update isn't pushed you're safe.

But it wasn't the case with the experimental build as they were automatic updates, daily ones.

Also there is not a big interest to use old experimental build manifest.

[tacit thorn]

you should still be able to rollback to previous public builds. no need to dabble in experimental

[bold monolith]

You can rollback yes. But that isn't the point here.

The person was not using a legitimate copy.

And it was two old experimental builds.

[tacit thorn]

not arguing with the evidence presented, it looked fishy (sic)

[ruby tendon]

Does the game require steam to launch or i can launch it just with the exe file?

[bold monolith]

The exe will launch Steam as there is a DRM.

[ruby tendon]

Ok thank you

[ruby tendon]

Is it better to play on experimental builds or in the latest stable release?

[bold monolith]

There are very similar. The developers don't work on the game anymore. They are working on Moonbreaker and "The Next Game In The Subnautica Universe©".

So the experimental build is close to the release build.

[ruby tendon]

There are additional bugs fixed on the exeperimetal?

[bold monolith]

The last thing they pushed on it was this: #dev-check-ins message.

And it was a while ago already.

I know when you try to color the vehicles it doesn't work right away you have to reload. And this bug isn't in stable.

[slow axle]

I was told to come here if I ever talk about the torgals

Yet if I speak here I will get spoilers for bz

I just wanted to ask something, isn’t the whole reason we were in the region of 4546B to look for the degasi which had bart torgal as the captain?

[eternal garnet]

it was a side mission for Aurora. Main was to set up a phase gate

I think

Degasi sort of reappears in BZ. In a real way

[silver olive]

I was in the ||Crystal Caves|| and I got the ||Proceed with caution. A leviathan class creature is near|| as I was being attacked by the ||Shadow Leviathan||
THANKS CAPTAIN OBVIOUS

[slow axle]

Lmao imagine if we didn’t crash into 4546B and set up a phase gate, the amount of casualties would skyrocket

I was literally about to click that because I thought I was in sub 1 chat

Alright I’ll go back there so you guys don’t have to keep spoiling basic things

[silver olive]

TBH the cut ending with Maida taking down a ship with just her prawn suit was kinda cool

[real wasp]

guys why is lead so hard to find in below zero like wtf 😭

and its used in so many more recipes

anyone have a suggestion on where i can find a lot

[eternal garnet]

ya, it's a little sad. Scanner room recommended. With HUD chip

[real wasp]

yeah but i cant find any magnetite

[eternal garnet]

twisty and the delta island biome (tree spires)

[real wasp]

ig im not that far in

ok thanks

[eternal garnet]

I didn't mean tree spires, it's called thermal spires

[real wasp]

oh ok

[chrome cedar]

I had a few lockers full of lead, just takes a lot of rock breaking.

[steel stream]

Are you sure the phasegate was supposed to be built close to 4546b? I think Aurora was meant to use the planet for slingshot maneuver, meaning it still had some distance left to travel

[jovial anchor]

The phasegate was never meant for 4546B, 4546B was a planet that was within the route

[chrome cedar]

There was already a working gate when Riley left.

[spiral kiln]

I tried that but i got it unstuck with foundations

[dense cedar]

what the (note: this is "Nothing" in russian)

[west mountain]

Guess you are at the Phi Robotics Dock in the West arctic, right? There is a ladder at the right where you can go up to the dock. There is nothing to do here in the water.

No interaction with the floating dock, just ignore.

The questionsmark on the left wants you to answer the call from AlAn, press T to answer

[bold monolith]

No interaction? You can climb in this game. They made a specific animation just for this.

Unless you tell me it doesn't work for this one, in this case I didn't know.

[carmine bobcat]

Where?

[bold monolith]

Here: https://snexpansion.unknownworlds.com/changes-and-checkins, but you have to go back in time a bit as they aren't working on both games.

The last ones were:

[bitter valley]

[winged marlin]

||me personally i think that below zero would have been better without the alterra evil storyline. like in the first game its already said that they are not good people but it was it a better way. if they just stayed as a commicly terrible company while below zero had a good survival story it would be much better than. "i need to hide from alterra because they evil" i much prefer "i have to survive but all i got is this crap from alterra"||

[carmine bobcat]

||I love how human the Alterra employees are. I do believe Alterra was portrayed exactly how I imagined them to be based on the first game. Bad higher-ups, but the workers are the best.||

[west mountain]

I like the character of Fred very much, the low maintenance guy! I am like Fred, the seatruck guy. He is my favorite character.

[carmine bobcat]

Fred is my favorite too

Parvan is fun too

[silver olive]

Ny below zero keeps crashing for no reason sometimes
I'll have ZERO lag
and then BOOM! game crash.

🖐️ POV: Fish

[silver olive]

Question, near the dock at the island where ||Phi Robotics|| is, there's a cave that is blocked by a sheet of ice
How do I get in

Like you can see in, the ice is clear

[eternal garnet]

You don't. If theres a small hole and you are too big, it's for the spy pengling

[silver olive]

No, not those

[eternal garnet]

oh you mean the underwater tunnel

[silver olive]

Underwater, there's a cave (that could fit the seatruck) that's covered completely by a sheet of clear ice

yes

[eternal garnet]

NExt to the cable. That's an exit only. A shortcut, and not important

[silver olive]

That sucks

[broken badge]

You can laser cut the ice but like meatie said, you can only cut it from one side (the prompt and ability to use the laser cutter won’t be available if you approach from the other side)

[ruby tendon]

Where is the entrace to the mercury II wreck near the|| lily pads||?

i am looking for half an hour and cannot find it

[eternal garnet]

at the bottom, side. I think there's also a hole on top

[eternal garnet]

here, two entrances

[ruby tendon]

ok thank you

[ruby tendon]

what should i do with the reactor rods? what are they for?

[eternal garnet]

the spent one, discard. The full ones are for the nuclear reactor. it's in here for scanning. Also don't miss the alien containment tank

[ruby tendon]

alien containment tank? i think i am done but didnt find any

[eternal garnet]

the big fish tank

it's for hatcing eggs, or growing food fish

[ruby tendon]

oh that one, yes i found it

[winged marlin]

||i think that mergerete surviving was outlandish and really destroyed the degasi storyline of the first game and made it for nothing||

[eternal garnet]

I can't agree. it just makes her cooler. She wasn not ||confirmed dead||

[winged marlin]

||i dont know how to explain it subnautica one is amazing and while below zero is good it just feels more corperate i guess||

[silver olive]

So I looked this up to no help, can you plant the Prestons Plant in a growbed?

[chrome cedar]

Definitely. You need to pick the fruit and plant that.

[silver olive]

Thanks. Now to find the base. Should I help shut down the radio thingy first

I know its the greenhouse where you find it

[broken badge]

You have to shut down the tower before you’ll get a call about the greenhouse location

[silver olive]

okay

[ruby tendon]

what i need to make snowfox? i have the blueprint but i dont know with what i make it

[broken badge]

You need to place the hoverpad on land first. It’s constructed at the hoverpad actually

[ruby tendon]

hoverboard?

[broken badge]

Habitat builder on land should bring up options that include placing the hoverpad for snowfox

[eternal garnet]

gotta scan the pad too

[broken badge]

There’s one when you go inside the doors at Phi Robotics

[ruby tendon]

do i have to have additional modules or upgrades to use this?

[chrome cedar]

Nope

Without modules a moonpool will work as well, but the moonpool doesn't do any repairs. The dock does, for the truck itself.

[eternal garnet]

the best thing with the dock is having the modules as walk-in rooms

[ruby tendon]

Can the snowfox go on the water or it will sink?

[eternal garnet]

it floats but doesn't move, much

[ruby tendon]

where do i make snowfox upgrades?

[eternal garnet]

regular fabricator. Possibly on the pad, but I doubt it

[ruby tendon]

ok

the seatruck dock is for the land, right?

[eternal garnet]

no no. The truck doesnt go on land

[fervent bloom]

I can confirm this.

[ruby tendon]

I dont understand what do i have to do in land where phi robotic centre is?

[tacit thorn]

1. land based. 2. you plant purple blobs, not leaves.

[tacit thorn]

Loot and scan everything obviously.

[chrome cedar]

It also serves as a convenient marker for that portion of the land exploration you’ll do.

[ruby tendon]

What?

[chrome cedar]

There’s a large area nearby with things to explore, including the reason Robin came to that planet.

[viral badger]

theyre so cute 🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁

[desert adder]

@noble sky

[noble sky]

Huh

Ghost leviathan has arrivwd

[desert adder]

Idk we're here now ig

Okay I went to like the mining site once tho

Idk why I never saw one I suppose

[noble sky]

You have to go all the way down

[desert adder]

Zamn

[broken badge]

You can see rock punchers also on the ground around thermal spires, the area surrounding delta island. You don’t have to go inside and all the way down into Koppa to find the rock punchers, although I don’t know how many are found outside around delta tbh

[noble sky]

Yeah. You'd need depth modules.

[noble sky]

I told grimm

You can find their eggs in koppa. I don't know where else.

[broken badge]

I know you can find them in shallow enough water to just be swimming around delta, because I’ve found them near the dock at delta

The eggs are certainly down inside Koppa, I don’t recall if there are any inside those extremely thermally active caves in and around there. You can find crypto eggs in those places but I don’t remember if there are any rock puncher eggs outside of Koppa

[carmine bobcat]

Do Ice Worms get angry at bases? If they have a docked vehicle. Do they ignore base pieces?

[west mountain]

They do not destroy the bases, but they can still cause harm to Robbin inside occasionally. I have a base in Arcitc Spires and I watch the ice worm from within but now and then it causes some minor health damage to Robbin. But never any serious issue.

[carmine bobcat]

I know nothing break bases, I was wondering if it would possible for the worm to dig through it

[west mountain]

The animation let it pass straight though the bases without interacting with it at all. So no distruction of any kind but some health damage to Robbin.

[carmine bobcat]

It'd be really scary

[carmine bobcat]

Does Robin/Prawn get damaged? And how much?

I do not go out with Reinforced Dive Suit, by the way

[west mountain]

Very very rarely and only minor. Nothing to worry about.

[carmine bobcat]

Okok

Good

I love Ice Worms

[high kernel]

Does the ||rock puncher 1 shot the prawn suit or the sea truck?||

[carmine bobcat]

No

Prawn suit is very resistant

The truck might get serious damage though

[high kernel]

So it's not a problem if I walk around like 3 of them in my prawn?

[carmine bobcat]

They don't attack very often

[high kernel]

K thanks

[west mountain]

In any case, just have your repair tool ready at all times and repair when necessary or frequently. Dont worry too much about occasional damage, just take it for granted to go out of the prawn or seatruck and give your equipment a brief touch up.

[carmine bobcat]

Nothing really poses any threat to your vehicles when you have a repair tool

[high kernel]

||What is the lore behind sea monkeys giving me items instead of taking them without any big spoilers cuz i visited an artifact and then they randomly started giving me items and I'm confused||

[west mountain]

The worst that can happen is that you leave it just above crush depth and some animal just pushed it blelow crush depth. Then you come back and find your seatruck nowhere.

or pinnacarids can drag it on land. I once left my seatruck in front of a shallow iceberg and found it on dry land when I came back.

You can use the prawn to push it back in the water though

But quite a shock

[carmine bobcat]

||They love Al-An||

[carmine bobcat]

Crabsnake memories...

[high kernel]

||The dude in my brain calling me occasionally?||

[next crater]

Is what happened to me haha

[west mountain]

You have ||AlAn in your head and that chances their behaviour||. More imporant, you can pin reciepies and they bring you resources you need.

[carmine bobcat]

Yes. If you have a flare they won't even approach you though

[high kernel]

Ik the pin recipe thing but i wanted to know the lore

[carmine bobcat]

If they offer you something and you don't pick it up, they get sad and bring another item

They really wanna help

[high kernel]

They bring another item!?!

[west mountain]

Pinned recipies are linked to the seamonkey behaviour. They really bring you items you need for your crafting.

[high kernel]

Well Ima keep declining titanium then

[carmine bobcat]

Yes, if you reject titanium, sometimes they return with gold

It depends on the biome

[high kernel]

Thanks

[carmine bobcat]

Please accept the titanium though

It makes them happi

[high kernel]

I only rejected them 1 time to see what happens

But they gave me what i need and now i need titanium

[carmine bobcat]

I don't know if you noticed, but they no longer take your items away

They love you now

[high kernel]

What if i kill one?

[carmine bobcat]

You will not kill one.

I don't know what happens, but I don't have the guts to find out

[high kernel]

Ok that was a test to see if u actually killed one or not

U passed the test, hooray

@carmine bobcat is the prawn suit voice british tho? Bc i named my prawn British ginger and i wanna know if i should switch it

[carmine bobcat]

Prawn suit voice is TTS

It sounds slightly brish

Mostly neutral accent

[west mountain]

Nothing, they respawn. You will accidently kill many of them with the seatruck. They just appear out of nowhere and you run over them. Nothing bad happens.

[high kernel]

Im not switching it then, thanks again 😊

[carmine bobcat]

Do stalkers respawn?

Ice Worms got me crying last night

[west mountain]

Correction by @bold monolith the do respawn if killed by a creature/Player

[high kernel]

I just got a heart attack

[carmine bobcat]

Suddenly all of the stalkers started running away, and a worm ate one, and then burped

[carmine bobcat]

Same happened with the plant with tendrils, it just ate a lilly paddler in from of me and burped

[bold monolith]

Remember there is a "respawn if killed by a creature" mechanic in both games.

[carmine bobcat]

Aww how adorbs

[bold monolith]

The snowstalker will respawn if it's killed by a creature.

[west mountain]

Seatruck would keep you save with the perimeter defence upgrade .-)

[carmine bobcat]

Yesssss thank you sooo much

[high kernel]

This a leviathan or not?

[carmine bobcat]

It looks pretty big. Warrants a scan

[bold monolith]

Otherwise the creatures that respawn when killed by the player aren't straightforward in this game.

Like the first one.

For instance, in the first game aggressive creatures don't respawn (besides things like warpers but that's the way they're coded). In this game, things like the brinewing, the lilypaddler respawn.

[high kernel]

Ima scan it

[west mountain]

Absolutely

[carmine bobcat]

Does nootfish respawn?

[west mountain]

Yes

[high kernel]

It ate me

[west mountain]

Means??? Prawnsuite gone?

[high kernel]

No i got out and tried to scan it

[west mountain]

Ah, death wish

[high kernel]

Good thing i saved before trying to scan it

[carmine bobcat]

They deal 75 damage

[high kernel]

I was low

[west mountain]

Again, use seatruck with perimeter defence and all is just fine and easy

[high kernel]

I got 69 hp

Not even joking

Is the drilling system the same as in Subnautica?

[carmine bobcat]

Yes

2 drills = half the time

[high kernel]

Smart

How much damage do rock punchers do to a player tho

I saw that it's threat lvl is pretty high

[carmine bobcat]

I don't remember, but they're very passive

[high kernel]

I was vibing around 1 for like 2 seconds and it jumped trying to attack me

[carmine bobcat]

Grumpy puncher

[high kernel]

Almost went to my base cuz i thought I couldn't fit more loot

Yo

I have a full inv and i took out my battery from my scanner to charge it and the battery just vanished cuz of my full inv is that a bug that i should report?

Oh

I took out smth from my inv and it appeared back

[steel stream]

That's a feature, if you get item with full inventory (reclaimed water from stillsuit could be the most common case), it stays in memory and appears in your inventory when there is space

[west mountain]

Once you have the recyclotron you dont have to worry about storage and batteries anymore (almost at least :-))

[ruby tendon]

do i do something here or i leave it as it is?

[lime grove]

find the thingy

[ruby tendon]

the sample?

[lime grove]

yes

[ruby tendon]

dp i have to go to a different area or it will be here?

[eternal garnet]

not sample, cure. clue on the phi wall map that you hopefully scanned

or I can paste the map

[ruby tendon]

i have the map

[eternal garnet]

the only red thing on there

[ruby tendon]

red hand writen circle?

[eternal garnet]

yes, cause that's the only red. Clue inside circle too

[ruby tendon]

thats where i am?

[eternal garnet]

hm? The place looks like this

[ruby tendon]

i am in a cave where outside there are frozen acacias

[sacred jungle]

Thats close to the || glacial connection || right?

[sacred jungle]

.

[eternal garnet]

yes

[ruby tendon]

the sample would be here?

[eternal garnet]

see the cave?

[keen schooner]

I'm back what's up with the new server profile

[eternal garnet]

is halloween. Well soon

[waxen trail]

Spooky month

[sacred jungle]

I always thought it was just a like with some penglings

Theres a cube there right?

I forgot how deep it goes

[ruby tendon]

i just leave after|| injecting the antidot?||?

[eternal garnet]

yes

[ruby tendon]

there are more to do in the land?

[eternal garnet]

yes, but north of that bridge

[ruby tendon]

in the acacia trees area?

i have found the snofox upgrade

[ruby tendon]

cannot find anyting

north goes to the phi robotics

[bold monolith]

The bridge in the Glacial Bay.

So even before Phi when you come from the lifepod.

[ruby tendon]

now i go to the bridge that needs hydrolic fluid?

i've done with this part of the land?

[bold monolith]

Then you're done with the land part pretty much.

[eternal garnet]

well, north is also land, but separate

[bold monolith]

I misread I thought they said they already did that.

[chrome cedar]

Unles you want to go back and strip the resources there. 😉

[ruby tendon]

I have found hydrolic acid, is that what i need for the brisge?

[bold monolith]

You don't find it you have to craft it unless I don't remember properly.

[ruby tendon]

is that what the bridge need?

[bold monolith]

No, the hydraulic fluid.

[ruby tendon]

i haven't found blueprint for it

[chrome cedar]

There is a broken canister by the control panel.

Scan it.

[ruby tendon]

which control panel?

[chrome cedar]

The one that extends the bridge.

[ruby tendon]

can you mark it on the screenshot?

u dont understand what exacly canister is

[eternal garnet]

can.

looks like a fanta can

[chrome cedar]

Left side by the control panel, there's a broken one on the ground, orangish brown. Looks like a soda can.

[ruby tendon]

this?

[chrome cedar]

Yup!

Scan it to unlock the blueprint

[ruby tendon]

ok i am going there

[viral badger]

oh yeah i meant to ask about that, is there anything i should be getting from there? i think i got everything but im not too sure

[chrome cedar]

From where? Across the bridge?

Assuming that's what you meant, one important scannable item to finish the game, and lots of resources including ion cubes.

[eternal garnet]

Guide map to north of the bridge (Arctic spires). Spoilers

[viral badger]

thank you!! it looks like i got everything, might do a second run around just in case tho

[eternal garnet]

bottom of an elevator is a music disc

[lucid gate]

yo les gooo i didnt even mean to find this

[chrome cedar]

[real wasp]

yo i just got the spy pengling and remote and tried to place it down but it doesnt let me what am i doing wrong?

it allows me to place it in water but not on land for some reason

but the remote also doesnt work

[ruby tendon]

is it easy to find seatruck modules and upgrades? i haven't found any (exept aquarium) and i am stuck with the default seatruck with depth upgrades

[chrome cedar]

It doesn’t work in water. You should just need to drop it, then use the remote to activate and control it.

[real wasp]

yeah well it doesnt let me even put it down on land

[chrome cedar]

Takes some swimming around, different modules are in different areas. ||Deep Twisties, purple vents, and Lillypad ||areas.

[chrome cedar]

Not sure on that, I never had that issue…

[ruby tendon]

scanner room detecs the as fragments?

[chrome cedar]

Definitely. But some areas have a lot of various fragments…

[eternal garnet]

if you are using mod: More quick slots, that's why. Change it to quickslots+, or try the first 5 slots

[real wasp]

im not using any mods this is my first playthrough completely vanilla

[ruby tendon]

which are the ||purple vents||?

[ruby tendon]

ok, is that how the biome called?

[chrome cedar]

Yes

[ruby tendon]

how can i see the biome's name when i am there?

[chrome cedar]

If you’re on Steam and PC I think F1 may show that info, not sure. Anything else you’d have to google it.

[ruby tendon]

i saw this on wiki but i can only add one horsepower module in the seatruck

[bold monolith]

The modules in this game are the extensions on your Seatruck. The horsepower is an upgrade.

[ruby tendon]

now i see, ok

[eternal garnet]

the table is a little wrong. Speed starts dropping with module 3, 4 if you have Horsepower

[surreal basin]

Who else thinks the base builder should be in the original subnautica? Cause I really wish to customize my bases color.

[eternal garnet]

you mean control room. There was an attempt at backporting, but it became too big

[surreal basin]

Doesn't have to be the control room just an option to change your bases color.

[simple galleon]

backporting?

[eternal garnet]

adding back a BZ feature into the older game. This happened for some things, seaglide map key, unstuck, large room, and whatever I forgot

[simple galleon]

Ok!

[eternal garnet]

and several bug fixes

[simple galleon]

yeah, that one always makes sense.

[regal flower]

hmmm

[eternal garnet]

you are using commands!

[tacit tangle]

is the new game out yet

[slim widget]

nah

not even a trailer 💀

spring 2025

[tacit tangle]

damn bro

[chrome cedar]

Any date is a guess right now. We have no info at all.

[carmine bobcat]

What will happen on spring 2025?

[eternal garnet]

we have no date either

[chrome cedar]

Flowers will bloom, birds will sing. Devs will dev…

[eternal garnet]

Subnautica fans will hate on BZ

[carmine bobcat]

Well

Only most of them

[chrome cedar]

Subnautica 2: Return to Zero

[carmine bobcat]

What if BZ got a sequel

Subnautica: Below Zero 2

[chrome cedar]

I’d buy it…

[jovial anchor]

Unfortunately we know very little to nothing about the next subnautica game, what I do know is it will support multiplayer and will be along the lines of subnautica 2, since bz technically is a spinoff, unknown worlds have been working on sub2 for around 6 months, but had to stop I think because they are still looking for new members of the dev team, however everything is still going accordingly, but if you want to know more about this, youtubers Aci and Anthomnia are my main subnautica news stuff other than discord, or maybe check with unknown worlds page for anything.

[steel stream]

Has multiplayer been actually confirmed by the devs or is it only a rumor...

[vapid kestrel]

We basically know nothing other than things from job postings and the fact that it will be in Unreal Engine 5 and have water

Multiplayer does seem very likely considering they are building the new game from scratch and a job posting mentioned experience with a character creator as a plus

[simple galleon]

If you're looking for something with a closer drop date look for a mod called: Subautica Call Of The Void
by the youtuber Aci

[fallow wave]

yo i just watched the trailer and it looks fire

[simple galleon]

ikr

[fallow wave]

the mini cyclops seatruck seamoth thing looks odd tho

[simple galleon]

the hydra?

[fallow wave]

too tall not long enough

[fallow wave]

idk the name, prob tho

[simple galleon]

it looks cool to me.

[real wasp]

guys i j beat subnautica below zero ending was pretty lit but a huge freaking cliff hanger 😭

[simple galleon]

i KNOW

[fallow wave]

fr

[simple galleon]

i hope sub 3 is somewhat a combo of both stories

[real wasp]

I BETTER KNOW in the 3rd one bro

[fallow wave]

yo

hide that so new players dont read

[simple galleon]

read my mind

[real wasp]

oh yeah mbbb

[simple galleon]

why your bad?

[real wasp]

well i dont wanna spoil ykk

[simple galleon]

the bz ending?

[real wasp]

ya

also have either of you gotten all of the achievements?

i wanna know which ones im missing

i have 2 i havent gotten yet

[simple galleon]

there's a youtuber, Antomia i think, he does subnautica updates and some spoilers. (the i think is cos idk if i spelled his name right)

[fallow wave]

one thing on the call of the void, isnt the void a dead zone, how is it full of life in this mod

is it changing the lore or something?

[real wasp]

yo also is it that i missed something or did the story ab her sisters death not seemed that finished

like i never got a conclusion on that

[simple galleon]

watch the second vid Aci made on CTV

[fallow wave]

the deep dive?

[simple galleon]

they talked about her death multiple times in PDA logs

[simple galleon]

behind the scenes of CTV

[fallow wave]

does it spoil the story?

[simple galleon]

no

[fallow wave]

alr then ill watch

[real wasp]

hmm maybe i missed something

how did she die?

[simple galleon]

cave in i think

[real wasp]

ohhh ok yeah that makes sense cuz when i was in that area some of the dialogue that i was listening to got cut off by like a cutscene dialogue so i missed it

||also how do you get the cure in this game???||

||to cure the frozen leviathan thats one of the achievement im missing||

[simple galleon]

idk, haven't gotten that far

[real wasp]

have u finished?

[simple galleon]

no

[real wasp]

oh ok

[simple galleon]

check wiki

you may be able to find something there, if not, yt