below-zero-chat

[eternal garnet]

nah, you haven't tried, I can tell

[upper scarab]

it's everything compared to them

seatruck base is the same as seamoth

it's everything compared to seamoth

I cried for days when loosing my cyclops

But you get used to it dw

I want to put that lockers in my seatruck

xd

[quaint fog]

it seems perfect tbh

but i dont have bz yet so idk

[opaque light]

Are there guns in the game

[eternal garnet]

Not really. Well torpedo launcher, but it's not very useful

[quaint fog]

perimeter defense will always be more useful

[opaque light]

what does big worm do

[carmine bobcat]

The ice worm?

Be annoying that’s what it does

[opaque light]

what else

[eternal garnet]

very cool how it eats a snow doggo. It knocks you off your bike, does a lot of damage

[opaque light]

what does it say when you scan it

[eternal garnet]

You can't scan the live one, but there is a dead one. It says ice worm, 90 meters long or something

[opaque light]

can you stab the worm and kill it

[eternal garnet]

no

[opaque light]

trash game

[eternal garnet]

lol

[grizzled shuttle]

hey guys

is it a red flag that my crush likes subnautica 1 rather than below 0

[eternal garnet]

no?

[carmine bobcat]

No that’s normal I think

[quaint fog]

how would that be a red flag lol

[tepid olive]

Just beat below zero

[next current]

Nice. How was your experience?

[trim root]

Cmon say it was better than first subnautica

Also why is Slicey a mushroom

[broken badge]

He’s not a mushroom

[trim root]

His hat looks like a mushroom

[jade wigeon]

hello

me need help

somene care to help me?

[steel stream]

Just type your question, usually someone will answer.

[jade wigeon]

ok

how can i find gold fast

[steel stream]

Calaverite outcrops (looks like a yellow/brown loaf of bread); in arctic kelp caves and thermal spires, so not in the immediate proximity of the drop pod.

If you have scanner room or mineral detector, you can search for calaverite outcrops, or gold (there are some ore veins in thermal spires). If you have prawn with drill arm you can get lot of gold in Koppa mining site.

[jade wigeon]

ok thank you

[trim root]

U really just was so desperate to find gold? You like told you need help in two channels and pinged a mod

[jade wigeon]

yes

i needed gold

[trim root]

You could have just searched harder

Its not that hard to find

[jade wigeon]

No 💀

im new to bz

[trim root]

Its an early game item

[opaque light]

oh

[azure ginkgo]

You can find it in the deep twisty bridges

[sacred jungle]

I dont think he can go there if he just started

[south geyser]

It’s in the shallow parts I went there when I started aswell

My pod thing crashed rlly close to one

[carmine bobcat]

Below Zero, I have heard bad about it but is it mainly it as a subnautica game or just a "game". Thinking of buying it

Note: I know some "major" plot details about below zero cus it came 2 years ago

Not the plotline, just points in that line.

[carmine bobcat]

Cus I feel that the hard fans of certain games may make it sound like the game sucks but in fact it is just not really a worthy game in that series/does not carry on what the past games created. (looking at you ac fans)

[bold monolith]

Are you wondering if you should buy this game?

[carmine bobcat]

Yes I forgot to mention

Oh I am gonna buy it anyways

[bold monolith]

If you buy it on Steam you could place a timer, try to go as far as you can under two hours and if you don't like it you can still refund.

[carmine bobcat]

Nah. I am buying it, and playing it through. Just looking to hear what people think bout the game

BTW I have subnautica on epic games, can I do mods in there too?

Quick off topic questiom

[bold monolith]

Some of them are probably not updated, but a lot were.

With the latest update.

The current update is the same build as on Steam.

[carmine bobcat]

Huh?

[carmine bobcat]

I have no context on that message

[bold monolith]

I'm talking about mods.

[carmine bobcat]

yes

but I kinda got confused hehe.

[bold monolith]

Some mods were probably not updated for the lastest build, so they won't work. But a lot of them are.

[carmine bobcat]

But umm so I don't need to have subnautica on steam inorder to play mods?

[bold monolith]

No.

[carmine bobcat]

Ah good

[azure ginkgo]

Can i use my ion cubes for items or should i safe all of them

[bold monolith]

Keep one for the story, use the others for whatever you want to do.

Maybe a second one for a portal.

[steel stream]

And remember recyclotron if you suddenly need ion cube and you don't have any left...

Well, obviously better to remember recyclotron when you still have one ion cube😉

[ornate vine]

Maaan Subnautica online would be so insanely dope! I know mods do exist but it'd be cooler if the game itself supported it

And have like 2 man puzzles and stuff

[clever crow]

i have a question: what's the ratio of picture frames in subnautica (and bz)?
i want to draw stuff and place it in screenshots folder so that i can have the drawing in my save

[steel stream]

Could you check yourself by taking screenshot in-game and then look at the file data?

[clever crow]

they are 3440x1440, that's my monitor's size, but in game they are smaller

the picture frame must have some other proportions

oh i found the answer - it's 1920x1080

but i learned how to look at file data thanks to you

[azure ginkgo]

I got i think it was 13

[native tapir]

whos ship is this and why do i kind of want to go in it?

[steel stream]

I think you actually come out of it at the start of game...see the small shuttle on top right? (Just the drop pod showing on the cropped image)

[native tapir]

no the big ship

[bold monolith]

Same answer.

Robin is inside at the beginning of the introduction.

[native tapir]

ok

i think i found the dead zone...

im this far way

[trail cradle]

yea

you have to go far away from the land

yea

ok

true

its probably gonna telleport u back when u fall from the prawnsuit liek 2000 meters deep

like*

yea

[native tapir]

is this a levi?

[trail cradle]

yea

[lime grove]

yes

[native tapir]

ok

[jade wigeon]

its robins ship

[native tapir]

ok

[sacred jungle]

Its basically death in fish form uless you are a gigachad

[native tapir]

bruh

[bold monolith]

It isn't her ship.

It's the ship she used to go to the planet, she paid the guy she's speaking to in the intro.

[lofty mason]

I am going to put all the little penglins in the bioreactor

[eternal garnet]

put a label on it: club penguin'

[lofty mason]

How do I put a label on bioreactors

[eternal garnet]

label. Not sure it works, but possibly

[lofty mason]

Oh I get it

That little thing

[tacit thorn]

8192 meters

[lofty mason]

What biome do I spawn in below zero

And what biomes have leviathans

[eternal garnet]

you spawn in shallow "twisty bridges".
biomes: Yes.

oh not spawn actually, but the pod is there. You spawn north of it on land

[lofty mason]

Hey what do you mean by yes

[eternal garnet]

I mean I won't say. spoilers

[lofty mason]

Oh ok

[eternal garnet]

minor but still

[lofty mason]

I dont remember anything from the below zero series I watched like 2 years ago

[eternal garnet]

Good!
Save often, explore everywhere, bring a beacon always

[ornate vine]

Honestly I hope we get to explore space a little bit as well in Subnautica 2

Would be kinda cool to do a few things in space, then the space ship would get shot down or something then you need to evac and you have only so many seconds then you land on a planet....

Then "ocean man" starts to play 🙂

[eternal garnet]

oh u

[lofty mason]

I got a termical bottle thing how do I fill it up

[eternal garnet]

coffee maker. It's not super useful

[ornate vine]

[edgy pivot]

i cant be the only one who has to get their crosshair in the midle of the two dots on becons

[lofty mason]

U are not the only one

[edgy pivot]

FINALLY

AFTER 8 HOURS

[eternal garnet]

8h? well the speedrun (complete game) is around 35 min

[edgy pivot]

why is my material detector beeping very fast here? i dont see any fragment

i dont think it can be below ground because of how fast it is

[eternal garnet]

it's inside a rock. it happens

[lofty mason]

Man how in the haell

[eternal garnet]

shared tricks. Using some glitches too I think

quick sample: to save time, teleport to the pod: just die

[chrome cedar]

There are some advantages of using the mouse scroll wheel when collecting resources you can’t match on a controller. After that it’s all knowing about where you need to find the right resources and collect only what you need. The dying trick to return to your base saves time on the return trip, but has to be done correctly to avoid losing resources you’ve gathered.

[eternal garnet]

but mostly it is intense planning and sharing tricks (strats) with other speedrunners

[chrome cedar]

I did my fastest run last week of around an hour and 20 min I think. SteamDeck with controller.

[eternal garnet]

speedrunning is incredibly boring, repetitive and time consuming. We're talking months.

[chrome cedar]

Indeed.

For me it’s the beginning part and finding what I need in the twisty bridges. I always get turned around…

[dry mountain]

How do I kill shadow leviathans?😈

[next current]

Can't really do the Stasis + Knife combo because the Stasis Rifle doesn't exist.

At least without cheats.

[chrome cedar]

Prawn punch and drill arm, and lots of repair tool.

[waxen trail]

Went all the way to the west to find ||trivalve|| eggs only to realize there were some right by my base in ||deep lily pads|| 😔

Well, I got blue ones now

[chrome cedar]

Four blue and two gold for the whole map.

[viral badger]

dumb question but how do i get here 😭

[eternal garnet]

it's inside koppa mine. Entrance south-west of delta shore, depth 150m. Boxes, lights in a deep hole

[viral badger]

ty

[simple galleon]

Trying to make a depth module mk1 for the seatruck but i don't have the lithium... 😩

[jade wigeon]

ooooooooooooooo

[simple galleon]

head to delta station dock, do a 180, there should be a cave entrance about 5m in front of you, go down that tunnel

[jade wigeon]

me too i need help

[simple galleon]

what is it you need help with?

[jade wigeon]

this

[simple galleon]

do you have the delta station beacon?

[steel stream]

Continue little past the delta station dock, when you see purple fumaroles bursting from the ground, look for lithium at the seabed

[simple galleon]

thx

[ornate vine]

Man i made an insane base ngl

[simple galleon]

Nice, just got a base established.

[noble hill]

Oooh, I like the added glass hallway between the large room and the MP rooms

[simple galleon]

got all of my chargers set up, that's what i burned my lithium on

[simple galleon]

same

[ornate vine]

Theory- ||what if below zero is sort of like a sub story to the next Subnautica 2 game. In subnautica Below Zero we see a HUUUGE frozen leviathan. What if that ice melts and it wakes up? Perhaps that will be part of the story in Subnautica 2||

[simple galleon]

Good idea.. isn't it also rumored that there'll be co-op? does this mean that sub2 is the point where sub and sub0's stories join?

[jade wigeon]

me need help

[simple galleon]

what do you need?

[jade wigeon]

i need help with the pilots last know pistion mission

[simple galleon]

there should be an entrance to a cave network at the location of the beacon, it's an area search mission, try searching the cave system.

and i would like to know where i can find diamonds.

[steel stream]

Diamonds: deep twisty bridges or Koppa mining site. If you have already done one specific thing, sea monkeys can also help...

[steel stream]

You preferably need seatruck with at least mk1 depth module...you need to dive quite deep. But as already mentioned, the beacon is where your pda tracking lost her; you need to search the area a bit

[lone perch]

what are the 3 main storylines?
the cure, the alien/getting off the 4546B and what else

[clever crow]

i thought the cure and robin's sister's death mystery is one storyline. what is the 3rd story?

[steel stream]

The pilot

Which also connects a little to Sam

[slow wren]

Old angry grandma

[clever crow]

nah she's a part of sam's story.

[west mountain]

Correct, the two story lines are ||Sam's story with Maida and the Cure of the frozen levianthan|| and ||AlAn and leaving 4546B||. Personally I would consider base building and exploring as a kind of a third story line. But that might only be me.

[steel stream]

I consider Sam and Pilot separate story lines, although there is a connection. You can complete them separately

[lone perch]

oh alright, i thought there was a more concrete third one

[west mountain]

Well you see the entriy above from @steel stream . You can consider ||Maida and Frozen Levi|| as seperate stories although for me (personally) they are Sub-Stories all under the story line "Find out everything about Sam". But you can play it the way you perfere.

[lone perch]

i mean ive beaten the game before, just with extensive amounts of cheating for the land part lol

[west mountain]

Excellent, congratulation. Yes, the land part is tricky.

[lone perch]

i want to do the playthrough withiut cheats this time tho, i might disable the temperature thing though

idrk why they put such a large land part

[west mountain]

What kind of cheats are you refering to? Commands or just looking up where to go? I would go with normal survival mode, temperature is not such an issue once you have the cold suit or a lot of coffee 🙂

[lone perch]

commands, literally flying everywhere and giving myself stuff lol

yh i should probably get the cold suit this time xd

[west mountain]

For the land part, I made two video tutorials that show you everything you need to go and you are done withing a couple of minutes, if you only want to go through as quickly as possible

[lone perch]

idk why i didn't get even a snowfox the first time

[steel stream]

Or eat peppers/other food that gives heat, or use vehicle (snowfox/prawn), or use caves/heat vents to stay warm...there are many options to handle the cold

[west mountain]

Correct

[lone perch]

oh wow cool, would you mind sending the link?

[lone perch]

how do i combat the worms? snowfox?

[west mountain]

No, nothing to fight for

[steel stream]

Try to dodge, use medikits

[west mountain]

Here is glacial basin: https://youtu.be/5kF4-4AbuP4

[lone perch]

i tried, gave up, flew above the map xd

[west mountain]

and here is arctic spires: https://youtu.be/i_QKANUgjlg

[lime grove]

never try to explore the arctic spires with 2x more damage taken

[lone perch]

tysm

[steel stream]

One more option to stay warm: builder tool, some quartz and titanium to build I corridor and hatch when you need to warm up (doesn't even need power to get heat)

Also helps to use spy pengling in areas with snow stalkers

[lone perch]

wdym

[lone perch]

oh thats handy

[lime grove]

the ice worm did one attack and it killed me

[lone perch]

yep same

[lime grove]

i was on full hp

[lone perch]

the snow wolves or wtv too sometimes

[waxen trail]

Prawn suit in the arctic all day everyday

[simple galleon]

prawn suit = god mode

[sacred jungle]

Me who went to the arctic spires without snowfox or prawnsuit

[simple galleon]

Yup

[noble hill]

I only use snowfox near phi robotics.

That the ice worm tremors knock you off it was just a little too frustrating. I had to go prawn for the spires.

[simple galleon]

If i need to get into koppa mine are there oxygen plants in there?

because if not i'ma make so many air bladders for cheese

[steel stream]

Yes, there are a few oxygen plants

[simple galleon]

Ok, cool. Thx

[wide dawn]

Oxygen plants kinda ruined the suspense of going deep down without a vehicle

For me at least

[lime grove]

they are useful for getting the high capacity tank and exploring the kelp forest caves

[wide dawn]

I really like bz's leviathans

[lime grove]

worm

[wide dawn]

Personally I think the ||void leviathan being a bigger paler chelicerate|| was kind of lame, but I still like them

[steel stream]

Kinda...2 oxygen plants within 30 second swim range and you can dive in the area forever

But you could technically say the same about brain coral in first game, which you could also plant where you wanted

[waxen trail]

It's objectively more effort than original subnautica's void leviathan

[lofty mason]

Where do I find gold

[jade wigeon]

look

[lofty mason]

I mean what biomes have the most amount of calverite outcrops

[jade wigeon]

ohh

in the artic kelp caves

[lofty mason]

K thanks

I need it for my base builder

[jade wigeon]

ooh

if you really want to find like 3 gold fast and easy

also silver

[lofty mason]

I only need gold of now

For computer chip

[jade wigeon]

when you start the game you sart on land then you jump in the water when you jump just swin near the wall of the land keep following unti you find a little hole there is a jackpot of gold and sivler

[lofty mason]

Oh

Ok

I actually made a vehicle in time now

Cuz in subnautica I made it way to late

[jade wigeon]

no need vechile its like 3 meters deep

[lofty mason]

K thanks

[jade wigeon]

take a look

Jackpot 😎

[lofty mason]

K thanks

Ok now find a good spot to make a base and make club penguin biorector

[remote turret]

how in gods name do i get spiral plant clipping i want to make a depth module v2 for my prawn but i cannot seem to find this silly plant

[eternal garnet]

inside a vent garden. This is a huge parked jellyfish directly south of delta

You can plant the clipping

[remote turret]

i will make them extinct just for 1 clipping

also sea monkeys are pretty cool they been giving me alot of stuff and they probaly dont know i stole one of their eggs and used it as bio fuel

below zero is so fun for the first time

[bold monolith]

Good luck with that.

[remote turret]

i dont need luck i only need a prawn suit and 1 knife maybe just maybe repulsion cannon

[safe garnet]

after getting to thbe emergency supply cache what do i do now

please help

[quartz cove]

find alien

[clever crow]

you will receive cords for delta island soon or for alien cache.
it's triggered by exploring , like, going east or diving deeper in twisty bridges

[eternal garnet]

explore in the opposite direction of the volcano (explore south)

[safe garnet]

ok

[faint dirge]

is below zero worth buying, ive heard its not as good as 1st one but is it still fun?

[broken badge]

I enjoyed it so I would say so
If you liked the first one, it’s got a lot in common, just you aren’t quite alone in the same way

You played the first game?

[faint dirge]

I think I had explored like every area except the lava place

@broken badge do the leviathans be making scary noises and stuff in below zero

I love just feeling on edge like i do in the first game so if its like that in below zero im sure ill like the game

[broken badge]

Scary is subjective. So what I or someone else considers scary may not be the same as what someone else does
I thought they did a good job with the leviathans, but it’s hard to compare I think when players have something they’ll always measure against, which is the original

[faint dirge]

would you say the original game does a better job of delivering that mysterious/spooky ambience than below zero?

or they are comparable in that sense

[jade wigeon]

uhhh

[quaint fog]

im also thinking of picking it up

[broken badge]

I think that’s more of the focus of the original, yes
That’s not to say there aren’t moments of spookiness and tension, but the focus was much more on that for Subnautica vs Below Zero.
And I think some of that was intentional due to player feedback the developers received
Because while there are certainly fans who loved the spooky vibe of Subnautica there’s also a lot of casual players who wanted a less, idk, terrifying experience I guess?

[quaint fog]

heard the map isnt as big

[broken badge]

It’s not as big, because it started out as planned DLC

[jade wigeon]

idk i barley started playing and has noot ecplored that much but have mad eSOME progress

[quaint fog]

the graphics make it look more immersive and that's something that's really drawing me in

along with the base building

[broken badge]

I love how great it looks, and the weather effects are incredible as well

[quaint fog]

is it still good looking on ps4?

[broken badge]

It does look good, it even looks amazing on Switch

[quaint fog]

awesome

im gonna get it this winter

it's a fitting time anyways

[carmine bobcat]

I remember the first subnautica being extremely choppy on PS4

So I imagine BZ wasn’t much better

Runs like a dream on series s though

[novel raft]

Is there a way to pick up ore diposits?

[clever crow]

prawn suit's drill arm

[novel raft]

No i mean caring around like in the base game

[clever crow]

no, only after you mine them

into regular ore bits

[novel raft]

So they fixed it, sad

[lofty mason]

My club penguin biorector really gonna like its fuel

[azure ginkgo]

should i use my penglins for bio

[bold monolith]

There are better things.

It's still viable, but it isn't the best.

People encouraging you to do so are most likely people who seek attention by being edgy.

A gel sack for instance is better. Even the arctic peeper would be a better fuel.

The best one is the root pustule.

[west mountain]

What I would have loved to have is that you could connect a growbed/plant pot to the bioreactor next to it, so it would consume the fruits automatically. Looking at all the hightech available in the game, that should have been possible 🙂

[bold monolith]

I know there is a mod doing that for creatures in the ACU, maybe it exists for growbeds.

[west mountain]

Just joking, a little bit of fitness is good for Robbin to go down to the reactor room to fuel the fire 🙂

[bold monolith]

She does swim a lot already. I think she gets plenty of exercise.

[west mountain]

I even built a fitness room in her base, but what you say makes me realize that was for nothing

[bold monolith]

I'm sure I could get plenty of inspiration in base design by looking at yours. I never know how to build inside. I think I get the outside right though.

[west mountain]

Cheers, thanks for the compliment. If I only would get as much exercise as Robbin 🙂 Btw, did you see my video with the whale shark on youtube? We got lucky to swim with a 12-15m giant fish. I am completly blown away.

[bold monolith]

No. I'll watch.

As a diver I'm jealous though. :þ

[novel raft]

What biom has the most Green Crack?

[west mountain]

No drugs in BZ (except from Lilypaddler, which makes you high as hell)

[novel raft]

Bruh uranium

[west mountain]

Cristal Cavern and Deep lilypad cave and Tree spires

[novel raft]

K ty

[steel stream]

Note that you can also find quite many reactor rods in ||Mercury 2 wrecks||

[steel stream]

Depends how you define 'best biofuel': if criteria include possibility of growing renewable fuel at your base, something else could win the title...

[bold monolith]

Best as it has a lot of energy. I see where you're coming from, but it is renewable as the seamonkey can give you them.

The problem is, they have to be in a specific biome.

[steel stream]

Didn't know that sea monkeys can give that

If a hatched sea monkey is released in for example tree spires, what resources it can bring you? Will there be a separate list, or will it use some list for biomes where monkeys spawn naturally?

[bold monolith]

There is a default list, a biome list, and a pinned items list.

The pinned items list itself has a biome list for ruby and nickel.

Only in Lilypads.

The biome list (no pinned items) has the biomes where they usually spawn.

It would have been nice if there were some secret biomes when released from an ACU.

The default list contains quartz, copper or titanium.

So, to answer your question if you don't pin anything in Tree Spires, you'll only get these three.

[west mountain]

Of which many of them are empty 😦

[steel stream]

True, but you can still get enough full rods to fill at least one reactor

[steel stream]

So if the pinned list has biome list for ruby and nickel (only lilypads), I guess these two cannot be received anywhere else, even with appropriate recipes pinned? But others, like diamond or magnetite work if in pinned recipes.

[azure ginkgo]

Why is the name below zero

[steel stream]

Maybe because of the arctic environment? Like reference to cold temperature (Celsius, not Fahrenheit)

[languid warren]

Because the temerature in the game is below 0°C

[azure ginkgo]

@west mountain ohhh makes sence

Sorry for tagging was accident

My phone scrolled up

[hot kernel]

I'm curious, does using the console commands on pc disable steam achievements for Below Zero?

[safe sun]

Yes.

[hot kernel]

Ok thanks, what about WeMod

[safe sun]

I have no idea what that is.

[hot kernel]

WeMod

[safe sun]

Repeating the name doesn't help me understand what it is lol

[hot kernel]

Lol, spelling error. But ok.

[safe sun]

Just looked it up. I have no idea why you'd want to use something like that for Below Zero, but I'm also not sure if it would disable achievements.

[bold monolith]

Correct.

[hot kernel]

@safe sun Lol why? To use cheats of course, I would just use the console commands but they disable the steam achievements. I don't think WeMod disables them though. I'm not new to Below Zero, completed so many playthroughs on the ps5. Kinda want to rush through and get all the achievements even though playing it normally can take only a few days to finish.

[safe sun]

Alrighty.

[bold monolith]

Qmods alone has a series of patches that are applied to the game. One of them bypasses the cheat flag.

So just having Qmods in this game will get you the achievements even if you use the console.

https://github.com/SubnauticaModding/QModManager/blob/master/QModManager/HarmonyPatches/EnableAchievements.cs

[slow adder]

Does the scanner room provide default cameras in below zero too?

[bold monolith]

No.

[slow adder]

How can i see where my scanner rooms are located Like i have 5 scanner rooms running but i forgot to place beacons so i have no idea where they are

[bold monolith]

If you are on PC I could give your coordinates, otherwise you would have to find them yourself.

[slow adder]

I am on pc

[bold monolith]

Then share your global-objects.bin and I'll tell you where they are.

[slow adder]

How do i do thay

T

[bold monolith]

Steam?

[lofty mason]

Im just using them because I hate them

[bold monolith]

What did a pengling do to you, to the point of hating them?

[lofty mason]

I have my reasons

[bold monolith]

I'm sure you do.

[chrome cedar]

Always place beacons with your scanners if it’s in a spot you can’t remember. If you have enough power and leave it scanning, and have the HUD, you’ll know when you come into range of it.

[violet mantle]

Am I correct in thinking that a single fuel rod can power a scanner room for 13 hours?

[waxen trail]

Well it supplies 20,000 energy

[violet mantle]

Then 11 hours. I though it was 25k.

[waxen trail]

Scanner room drains 30 energy a minute I think

Pretty sure it does

[violet mantle]

30 active, 9 standby if the wiki is correct so 11 hours active and 37 hours standby assuming no other loads if I did the math right.

[lofty mason]

Man

I cant find the below zero map

Because every single one is diferent

[next current]

Like an interactive map? Because this one is the best imo.

https://mapgenie.io/subnautica-below-zero/maps/world

[lofty mason]

Thank you bro

[next current]

👍

[red lagoon]

where do I get bigger tank than 75 or where can I unlock a stronger model

[eternal garnet]

at 120m deep in twisty bridges, there's a small building. there

[red lagoon]

how big will the tank be then

[eternal garnet]

135 total. that's not the biggest tank

tip: you can carry 2 of them, swap underwater. Just remember to fill the extra!

it's in the eastern twisty bridge canyon

[red lagoon]

is it this tube?

[eternal garnet]

yes

[red lagoon]

think I can make it in and out with 75 oxygen

[eternal garnet]

yes

there are some o2 plants

also: the air bladder is now really good. Fast, or you can get 10s of air from i

[red lagoon]

got it. What about the rebreather?

[eternal garnet]

170m deep, not far, bit west by a little crane

[red lagoon]

this one>

[eternal garnet]

of course

why isn't rebreather mentioned? it's in the pic

coords are x y z. Y is of course depth

[red lagoon]

got it

I love it how I found the sea truck fragments before the vehicle bay which im still kind of ish looking for

[eternal garnet]

this is kinda typical. truck is easier to spot. MVB:

[red lagoon]

its kinda goofy ngl because in Subnautica finding the cyclops was way harder than vehicle bay lol

[eternal garnet]

the truck is more like seamoth, but can have rooms on the back. It's your first vehicle

[red lagoon]

ngl even the sea moth was hard to find

I found the vehicle bay so easily

[jade wigeon]

i spent years looking for that THANK YOUU 💀

[grizzled shuttle]

sup

[vivid sparrow]

Can anyone help me

All my scanner room things are gone except creature egg

[grim token]

Important question, which bed do you like the most?

[jade wigeon]

uhhh the single bed

[eternal garnet]

the one with lifepod 5 on it

[grim token]

Just looked through the list, that ones pretty cool

My favourite is the ghost leviathan one

[jade wigeon]

i was gonna say that in the first place but sticked with the orginal bed

[grim token]

Well other than special designs, I'd pick a double bed

[jade wigeon]

hmm ok

[willow venture]

Cheapest one

[red lagoon]

what do I do with ion cubes or where can I find data blueprints to build them into those batteries

[lime grove]

scan artifacts

[hardy current]

c o p p e r

[sacred jungle]

SO MUCH

[hardy current]

I left my scanner on for like 30 minutes while exploring

[lofty mason]

Ah yes, copper

[hardy current]

And I came back to coppius amounts of copper

[lofty mason]

Mine them all

[hardy current]

that's like an entire map of copper

[summer oar]

Wish me luck

Most of my information is from lore vids so a lot of the storys main points I do know to some degree.

[eternal garnet]

[trim root]

So you basically spoiled yourself before playing the game?

[summer oar]

Going in quite blind compared to subnautica 1, but not as blind.

[summer oar]

No??

[eternal garnet]

save often, bring a beacon always, exploring everywhere is key

[summer oar]

Subnautica 1 was fully spoiled because I have watched videos from it since the beta

but have not gotten to play it. Only recently.

[trim root]

Save rarely, bring a beacon never, exploring nowhere is the way

[eternal garnet]

Never leave your lifepod! monsters out there

[summer oar]

No worries I can play games.

[summer oar]

It's not really a lifepod tho?

[trim root]

Are you sure?

[summer oar]

Yes

[eternal garnet]

it is I think. it's not an escape pod. You get it the first 5 min

[trim root]

Below Zero requires lots of skill

[eternal garnet]

I don't mean the lander

[trim root]

Its not a game for everyone

[eternal garnet]

lander, crasher (minor spoiler)

But it is for everyone.

[summer oar]

heheheh

I will save this photo and after I have hardcore finished the game 30 times straight we will come back to the topic.

[trim root]

Dont forget to kill all the leviathans

[summer oar]

Plot points because I have watched lore vids. Not the plot, not the story, not the gameplay, the biomes etc. Most I know is the names and looks of leviathans, the vehicles, lore, mercury 2(almost nothing about it tho, excited for it)

[summer oar]

Only reapers

but there is none here. That is my code.

[trim root]

Why only reapers? You have to kill all hostile leviathans

[summer oar]

Unless there are some really annoying ###### leviathans.

[summer oar]

Ghost leviathans are probably the most kind creatures in subnautica 1

I spend most of my time with them

[clever crow]

lilypadlers are the only sn creatures worthy of death

[summer oar]

Lilypadlers? stop the spoiling pls

.D

[clever crow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/883159069140058165.gif?size=48

[summer oar]

Tho that spoiled nothing cus 0 understand hehe

[eternal garnet]

maybe more play, less chat spoil. Come back when you can't find table coral

[trim root]

No they are not all hostile leviathans in subnautica do not have feelings and they dont feel pain either

So there is nothing wrong with exterminating them all

[summer oar]

but I love ghosties

you can't force me to exterminate my friends

[trim root]

None of them has mutual feelings towards you

Your affection for them will only get you dead the moment you let your guard down near a ghost

Kill them all

[clever crow]

you are a meanie

[summer oar]

@trim root let's be honest here. You are acting like a "Error 1724658142: Wikipedia has no suitable words" , please stop.

Pc crashed, huge 3 mins of swimming lost!

Oh so that is what we used. Interesting.

Weird design in my opinion but...

[trim root]

Dont worry even if you were to find suitable words they would not be allowed on this server

[summer oar]

Yes...

Are you really just " kill all leviathans you fool, they cant feel " or you just trolling me here?

[summer oar]

Talkin like a war veteran here

[jagged fractal]

guys i cant find marguerits greenhouse again, what direction was it from the droppod again?

[bold monolith]

You could have checked your logs.

From the island.

[summer oar]

Oh god gotta get use to ignoring spoilered photos and text....

[eternal garnet]

|| why did you click me?||

[summer oar]

I almost pressed that

Muscle memory...

[eternal garnet]

you can, it's safe. And cute

[summer oar]

Hehe

[trail cradle]

|| bc ur cute : )||

[summer oar]

Cute dog indeed

Thansk for testing me meatie.

[eternal garnet]

DOG?!?!?

[trail cradle]

dawg

[haughty cradle]

i got a seatruck is that good?

[trim root]

Best vehicle

[haughty cradle]

oh nice

[spring raven]

seatruck is the most practical vehicle in both subnautics imo

[haughty cradle]

dang

[eternal garnet]

it can grow with rooms on the back, and depth upgrades to any place in game

[haughty cradle]

oh wow

[grim token]

I think most of them are the same once you unlock them

Okay, so I have seatruck unlocked, but not the mobile vehicle bay, where get that?

[clever crow]

it's a bit higher in the twisty bridges

[eternal garnet]

look for these. Also can be in seamonkey nests

[grim token]

I found 2/3 of them in nests, I searched all of the main deep kelp caves, but didnt find one fragment

[eternal garnet]

pictured are in twisty bridges at about 30-80m

[grim token]

Thanks

Founded it in a kelp zone right next to twisty bridges, finally

[lofty mason]

Uhh what the hell

Why did I lose 2 laser cutter fragments

That I scanned in Mercury II ship

[eternal garnet]

you loaded save?

I feel that's the only way

[lofty mason]

Uhh

Actually I lost the fragments because I loaded my save

After I died, cuz it wasnt that much progress

[eternal garnet]

if you die with a beacon, it renames and drops

so, it's good to carry one

[lofty mason]

Wait

If you die the items drop in that spot?

Or only the beacon

[eternal garnet]

yes. On land it can be a little iffy

[lofty mason]

But I loaded my save before I had died

[eternal garnet]

you don't drop everything: new items since you were in a truck or base. Minus one.

dying inside a truck has no cost

[lofty mason]

I died outside

Hold up I loaded my save when my screen was black

From oxygen

Are there more laser cutter fragments in Mercury II k7?

[eternal garnet]

k7? The ones you found will be back now

I've seen at least 2

[lofty mason]

Uh

Im gonna try loading my save again

[eternal garnet]

I don't see why. Save saves the fragments too

I mean, the ones you scanned will be back

[lofty mason]

Conclusion: this game literally stole 2 fragmrnts away from me

[eternal garnet]

no... I don't think that's usually possible

[lofty mason]

Nah I have 1 fragment and the Mercury ship has nothing

[eternal garnet]

anyway, there are many laser cutters, most are in kelp root monkey nests

I can also give you the cheat. this disables further achievements in this save

[lofty mason]

Uhhh nintendo

[eternal garnet]

yeah, no such thing on switch

[zinc void]

Hello Subnautica: Below Zero! 💙

haven't played this game in like 3 weeks

still building base :3

[zinc void]

remember this gallery? It's still here :3

[clever crow]

i don't remember. thanks for telling me

[zinc void]

a month ago I was posting this rainbow gallery in this channel multiple times

[atomic horizon]

Ohhh yeah I remember you you're the guy with the awesome base

[grim token]

I'm about to start building a seatruck dock and moonpool, RIP my base's structural integrity

[zinc void]

I need to put up borealis somewhere

[zinc void]

this

[atomic horizon]

Yepppppp

[grim token]

I took this pretty picture

I think it's perfect, now to unlock picture frams

[zinc void]

Pretty! 🌕 💙

[grim token]

I never thought of borealis from water

[zinc void]

and this pretty storage I made ~

all organized, still in progress though ^^"

[versed kayak]

looks awesome so far !

[clever crow]

framed borealis always work as perfect decoration

bro i can't find my enterior pics, only this

[grim token]

What biome was that in?

[zinc void]

ayyy, you've been to the Tundra Void just like me

I've also been to this sand-snow border

welcome to the Tundra Void club!!

[clever crow]

just on the surface looking up. but my base is in tree spires

[grim token]

I remember discovering the snowworm animation area on my own with moonjump

Using console commands, googled it and I couldn't find much info about it

[lofty mason]

Are there 3 paralel processing units in the Mercury II K7 or 2

[waxen trail]

Which part

The stern has 2 iirc

[lofty mason]

Stern?

[waxen trail]

Engine has 1

[lofty mason]

Wheres the engine then

[waxen trail]

Engine is in purple vents

Go east from the stern

[lofty mason]

Wait

So the whole ship is separed?

East? Ok

[grim token]

I haven't played for a while, so I guess the first one I should go to is the one in the purple area and lilypads ||think its of on the way to her base|| right?

[lofty mason]

Her base is in Tree Spires I think

[grim token]

Nah, not close I dont think

[lofty mason]

Where the hell is this engine

[waxen trail]

Small piece, bordering lilypads

[lofty mason]

East of stern right?

[waxen trail]

Yes

[grim token]

Which am I thinking of?

[steel stream]

Total of 6 in all parts of the wreck (1, 2 and 3 in separate parts). Total of 3 don't require laser cutter to scan

[waxen trail]

There are 2 in purple vents

[lofty mason]

The hell

[grim token]

Its near lilypads, I saw it on the way to her base

[lofty mason]

How did I just send an audio

[grim token]

It's on an angle

[lofty mason]

Uhhh I cant find the engine, Im going east and nothing

[waxen trail]

All wrecks are around lily pads

[lofty mason]

And I got the inactive volcano warning

[grim token]

What's the rule for reinforced walls again?

[lofty mason]

Uuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[waxen trail]

You're in East arctic

Meaning you went east

But passed it lol

[lofty mason]

Man

[waxen trail]

You're near it though

[grim token]

Oh it was stern, based off what the pda said

[lofty mason]

Is it inside this ravine?

[grim token]

You mean "her"?

[lofty mason]

Nah the engine

[waxen trail]

It's near a ravine

[grim token]

I have no clue unfortunatly, you can Google it

[lofty mason]

I found an alien pedestal thing in the ravine

[waxen trail]

The engine wreck is literally above you

[lofty mason]

Oh ok

[waxen trail]

Idk how you entered the ravine without seeing it

Lol

It's sitting next to the entrance

[lofty mason]

Man Im blind

I cant find it

@waxen trail I found the fossil excavation alien thing but no engine

[grim token]

Seatruck and seatruck dock gotten, now where's the first depth module?

[lofty mason]

Fabricator

[zinc void]

gonna make the entrance look like jungles

[sacred jungle]

Good luck

[grim token]

That will be pretty

[grim token]

Which plants? And which would you say is best in general?

[zinc void]

every

[spring raven]

every

[grim token]

[spring raven]

real sigma

realer sigma

[eternal garnet]

please no spammy irrelevant images

[lofty mason]

He said sigma and I sent the sigma

[spring raven]

ok

[chrome cedar]

Good for underwater bases…

[grim token]

So I got the laser cutter scanned on the stern, anything else important I can get without the cutter?

[eternal garnet]

mostly, you can get in another way with no cutter. And only half of the parallell units need cutter

[grim token]

I got in on the bottom of the south side and noticed 4 entrances from that one if I'm correct, where a the good entrance?

I found one fragment on what appears to be the main engine, where are the others that I can get?

[languid warren]

Just search for them

[grim token]

Oh really?

[languid warren]

I mean.. who remebers the locations of all fragments

[waxen trail]

Not sure how you're missing it haha

It sits above the ravine towards the lilypads

[grim token]

True, I'll just get laser cutter then

Where should I go for diamonds

[eternal garnet]

deep twisty, below 300m

[chrome cedar]

Or Koppa, also some around the thermal vents if you look in the right spots. Scanner room helps greatly.

[grim token]

Ok

I like how new players panic every time they see fauna, but people who play often just swim 5 feet to the left and are safe

[chrome cedar]

The trick is to keep moving. They usually lose interest quickly.

[grim token]

Yea,

[grim token]

Who would win?
A very scary sea monster.
Or someone swimming in a damn circle.

[zinc void]

nice fps, even at one moment it reached a peak low of 27 fps!

[grim token]

I was in the deep twisty bridges, I'm never trusting plants again

[grim token]

Nintendo moment (even though it's probably not on switch)

[zinc void]

I am on pc, with rtx 3060 and ryzen 5 5600x

[grim token]

Well now you know how anyone who plays anything on switch feels

[zinc void]

Subnautica: Below Zero devs should've polished this game better not gonna lie

so many passages 🤭

[grim token]

Is that really in survival?

[fierce matrix]

hello i found 3 prawn suit parts at the mercury II where is the fourth

[eternal garnet]

koppa mine or outpost zero

[wild torrent]

My goofy asf Xbox one couldn’t handle that

[zinc void]

Technically I had to make a resource reset, because my world was running out of titanium

but it's all in Survival so

legit

[grim token]

Wait you can do that? Is it in settings?

[bold monolith]

No you can't.

Not on the Switch.

Even on pc it's questionable.

[grim token]

Questionable as in you have to go into the files? I'm playing on my steam deck right now (so I guess I should go get that role)

[zinc void]

and out of copper too

[bold monolith]

Yes, it messes up your scanner room, and the fact the game remembers every creature location makes it alive.

[zinc void]

it was very critical to such a point that scan fragments were scarce

[bold monolith]

Also, if you ever use pipes you'll lose them.

[zinc void]

I don't use pipes

[grim token]

Pipes aren't used often anyway

[delicate tulip]

This old build of Subnautica BZ is so goofy

[bold monolith]

Creatures you killed come back, PDAs are empty of you can't pick them up I don't remember it's different in SN1. The most annoying part is probably the scanner room. And the fact you don't have usually a good reason to do that.

[grim token]

That's true, idk why I was considering it, since I'm not building anything crazy

[delicate tulip]

You guys think this should have stayed in the game?

[chrome cedar]

Ignis, do you happen to know of any trick that might reduce the black loading screen after you die? Takes a good 10 seconds or so here, kind of annoying.

[bold monolith]

It's the time for the game to generate the terrain around you.

It's hidden behind the black screen.

[chrome cedar]

Yeah, I can do some things while it’s loading, but not much. LoL

So basically the game save file, if that were on faster storage, like a RAM disk, might work better?

[bold monolith]

Is your game on SSD for instance?

[chrome cedar]

It is, Steam Deck.

Limited ram though for the system, sadly.

Seemed like my PS4 may have been faster in that regard.

I may need to play with some things and see what I can do.

[grim token]

That would be cool, but what's the point of indoor temperatures?

[waxen trail]

Maybe it could have been a heating system, more heat uses more power or something

Would have been neat, always down for power management mechanics

[glad halo]

Hey all.... currently stuck in my seatruck in the swimming animation. I am stuck at the driving terminal and cannot move my camera. Also have tried console commands to warp out but that is not working either

on top of all of that the built in unstuck command is greyed out in the pause menu

Is there any hope for me? or do I have to quit and relaunch, haven't saved in a little over an hour

[prisma yacht]

I named my sea base "Strawberry Jam"

[waxen trail]

How did you get like that?

[glad halo]

I don't know, happened while trying to exit

[waxen trail]

Did you park in a steep incline?

[glad halo]

No, in free water mayble like 5 feet from a cliff drop off

[prisma yacht]

Ghost leviathans are scarier than void clicherates

And u can't change my mind

[waxen trail]

No one wants to

[glad halo]

Think I am just going to bite the bullet unfortunatley

Lets see if I was smart and saved more frequently than I thought lol

[grim token]

Wheres the bow? Like I relation to another waypoint

[waxen trail]

There's really no waypoint, it's south of the stern

If you go straight forwards facing south you'll hit it

[grim token]

I meant a waypoint like delta station dock, you mean it's due south?

[waxen trail]

Yes

But don't go south from Delta island, you'll be in Tree Spires

I recommend heading south on the border of lily and tree spires, from the stern

[grim token]

Found it, thanks

I like how the PDA say "inoperative" I wouldn't have been able to tell if the PDA didnt say so

Ok, my audio is glitching, but I'm all the way near the bow. If I saved and quit, would it spawn me in the bow? Or the lifepod? @waxen trail

[waxen trail]

You should always rejoin where you last saved

[eternal garnet]

you continue where you were

[grim token]

Alright, good

[waxen trail]

If you have a seatruck, you would respawn from that if that is what you last used anyway

[eternal garnet]

that's if you die. You respawn in the last visited truck or user base or lifepod

[grim token]

Yea I do, good

It's a steam deck issue, no clue why It does that

Just that if you go Into sleep mode, then turn it on into the game, sometimes it messes with the audio

[eternal garnet]

what is?

oh.

Save saves Everything

[waxen trail]

Can't even fit it all inside

[jovial anchor]

Hello

[waxen trail]

Sup

[jovial anchor]

I just finished my Freedom Playthrough of Subnautica, and I'll be doing a Freedom Playthrough of BZ soon, I'll be in here alot, I have lots of information on bz so if anyone needs any help, feel free to ask

[broken badge]

That’s a long seatruck lol
The dock was designed with the “average” seatruck length in mind, which is the cabin + 3 modules, iirc
You’re over the average by a considerable bit😂

How many compartments is that, 7+ cabin?

I can’t tell for sure

Most will have seatruck, storage, fabrication and docking or some similar combination, maybe sleeper or another module for one of the ones I listed

[waxen trail]

Fabricator, 3 storage modules

and I can't ever leave without my favourite sleeper module

[broken badge]

Docking on the end too

[waxen trail]

And the Prawn suit dock

It's pretty slow but I needed to get a lot of resources lol

I keep the teleporter off to the side usually

[broken badge]

You know you can use the fabricator module to “condense” resources to put in the storage modules, that’s why the storage & fab modules are such a powerful combo
Usually 1-2 storage and a fab module are good enough for me, because I can use the recyclotron on stuff when I get back to base

[simple galleon]

can you have more than 1 of the same module connected to your seatruck? I tried but it didn't work for me.

[simple galleon]

that is such a good strat

[broken badge]

I’ll make things into plasteel, copper wire, computer chips, whatever

All you need is the power to do so

And you get ion tech so much earlier in BZ

[simple galleon]

how? i don't even have the blueprint for ion battery yet and it's driving me crazy

[broken badge]

Hint: it’s tied to how many ||architect sites|| you visit. The more you visit the more “perks” you unlock I guess you could say

[simple galleon]

ok!

managed to figure out you can build a snowfox hoverpad on a platform in the middle of the ocean

[eternal garnet]

don't do that

[broken badge]

But it can’t cross water, so it’s better to put it on land

[simple galleon]

ik that

[eternal garnet]

even more: don't put a pengi bot there

it will break

[simple galleon]

just thought it would be a good idea since i can pack up the snowfox and throw it in a storage module and then have a charging pad with a constant power supply.

[broken badge]

You can pack it up, I take my snowfox with me on land all the time because I walk sometimes and then use the snowfox occasionally for warmth, but the hoverpad charges and also repairs the snowfox

[waxen trail]

Yes but I like to keep things as raw materials till needed

Even though I can recycle

[chrome cedar]

Yes, the only one you can’t have multiple of is the docking module for the prawn that goes on the end.

Make sure you’re hooking them up right, the handle part for moving them manually goes towards the front.

[waxen trail]

Fabricator first is the only right way, unless you got sleeper hooked up

[chrome cedar]

I either have it first or in the middle. One fab, four storage, and docking module is my usual setup.

Compress everything, even copper wire and wiring kits down to make a single compass.

I’m can haul so much more that way then recycle at the base as needed. Fewer lockers at the base also doing that.

[abstract panther]

so, how do i deal with a brute shark stuck inside my ventgarden?

[next current]

You can try moving far away and then come back to your vent garden.

[grim token]

Okay, what seatruck modules should I prioritize?

Other than the docking one, dont have prawn quite yet

[jovial anchor]

Fabricator module, storage module,

[grim token]

And then that's it? Then docking?

I have both of those unlucked

[jovial anchor]

Yes, usually I try and get all of them but then when you put them all on the seatruck, the seatruck is really hard to rotate and turn when needed, and you don't get the upgrade that helps with that until later in the game so I would just stick with those three for now

I mean even with three modules it gets pretty hard to turn

[grim token]

Well I could swap out the storage and fabricator

[jovial anchor]

Yeah

[waxen trail]

Sleeper module goated

[grim token]

Okay, I have enough lithium for one module, which should I get first?

[grim token]

JUKEBOX MODULE

[jovial anchor]

Ah the jukebox module, or known as the sleeper module, I would listen to the same track for hours😆

[grim token]

Which module should I get first though? @jovial anchor

[jovial anchor]

Fabricator

So you're not going back and forth to the same fabricator

You can just make whatever you need on the go

[simple galleon]

ikr

and it has built in storage, it may be small but it's storage

[jovial anchor]

Small storage until you make the storage module

[simple galleon]

yeah

[jovial anchor]

But getting the fabricator module basically turns your seatruck into a semi cyclops

[simple galleon]

yeah

if you have the recycler you can abuse this small storage before you get the storage module

[jovial anchor]

The recycler is the functional trash can right?

[simple galleon]

yeah, it turns a refined product into it's components

[jovial anchor]

Oh you're talking about the recyclatron, but isnt there an actual trash can that deletes items you dont want?

[simple galleon]

yeah there is, not that good tho compared to the recyclatron

[jovial anchor]

I've never used the recyclatron because I've never found its location

[grim token]

Bruh I almost broke it trying to connect it from the wrong side

[jovial anchor]

Oops

[grim token]

Oh there's storage in the fabricator module, that would have made the decision easier

[jovial anchor]

Yeah but it's small, it's just supposed to last you until you make the storage module

[simple galleon]

oh, idk how you get it other than you don't scan it. and i don't think it's in a data cashe

[jovial anchor]

It's in the deep twisty bridges

[simple galleon]

Ok!

i just forgot how i got it then

[jovial anchor]

And it's scannable

[simple galleon]

ok, then i just was out of it when I found it.

[jovial anchor]

Ohh wait I'm dumb

Hold on

[jovial anchor]

So the recyclotron should be fun to get🙄

[simple galleon]

it's a useful thing but it's a pain to get now that you reminded me where it was, isn't there a squidshark there?

[jovial anchor]

No I misread your message, i thought you were talking about the storage module still,

The recyclotron, "can be unlocked by scanning four ||Architect Artifacts||"

[simple galleon]

oh, yeah the storage module and fab module are a pain but there is something that you can scan to get closer to unlocking the recyclotron in the same area.

[jovial anchor]

I think I only found one of those things when I attempted doing survival mode, hopefully I have better luck in Freedom Mode

[simple galleon]

I tried survival mode, but somehow in bz it's harder for me to do food and thirst... idk why

[jovial anchor]

I think its because the edible fish are completely different from original subnautica, besides the arctic peeper, and idk where the filtration machine is

[simple galleon]

in bz just use the coffe machine, infinite coffe that fills thirst and water. put a thermos in it for drinks

[grim token]

Chat gpt gave me this colour scheme called "Aurora borealis theme" I'd say it looks great, I'll probably use this for the rest of the game

[simple galleon]

that looks awesome!

try and give it a tinge of blue or green

[grim token]

No

[simple galleon]

ok

my bad

[grim token]

Nah sorry, I just thought the "No" was funny, but I like it this way

[simple galleon]

i get it tho

[grim token]

Where get picture frame?

[idle tundra]

i just started playing this game again after 1 year break, idk if i should start new save or continue my current one

i have a pretty nice base and i think i was kinda far in the story too

[simple galleon]

start a new save and keep your stacked one

[idle tundra]

idk if i have time to complete this game on new save cuz im kinda busy with some other stuff

but then again i cant rly remember what i have already done on this save

i just remember i had to go to the crystal cave or something

[grim token]

I just screamed no out loud, because I accidentally cooked a bladderfish

[simple galleon]

and you were trying to make water or an air bladder

[grim token]

Water, idk how I'd mess up an air bladder that bad

[simple galleon]

now that i think about it, yeah how could you?

since it's in a different section of the fabricator menu

[idle tundra]

i think i might have to make new save cuz i cant remember any progress i have made xd

[simple galleon]

makes sense after taking a year long break from the game...

[idle tundra]

i have made like 3 saves by now cuz for some reason i can never get myself to finish 1

[simple galleon]

wow

[grim token]

Which island has the lab in it?

[simple galleon]

Phi robotics

island

[grim token]

The omega lab I mean

Is it the island with the pit under it?

[simple galleon]

idk if i've found that yet

which one is that?

[runic pivot]

@idle tundra you have to start a new save

[grim token]

I like subnautica better, but I play below zero more, because it's less scary

[summer oar]

Subnautica below zero and subnauitca 1 are almost the same size.

Dunes, mountains, the other side of the aurora, basically most of the crash zone. take em out. So much dark empty space with reapers. The most loot they have is 1. cuddlefish 2. Pda entrys and caches with data terminals for the lore nerds/completionist 3. wrecks with very good upgrade modules that you can find in safer and easier to get to/navigate places. Crag field and sea treaders path are mostly because sea treader cuties area must see. Subnautica 1 has so so much space but only a small amount of it comes to use or is visited and explored. grand reef has a lot of space in the edges many don't visit. Bulb zones edge also has space which servers 0 more purpose than the space behind it (lifepod and backwards) Blood kelp zone northern fair amount of space in the edges that is basically just there. If we add the lost river well I have heard/seen something about the crystal caves, and probably has other large cave systems in below zero. Now the inactive lava lakes and the lava lakes are mostly there for the story and to add sea dragons and create depth into the map to create a need for progression.

When you take all this into consideration the map suddenly becomes just slightly larger than subnautica 1.

Just wanted to throw this out cus people seem to bully below zero because it doesn't have a lot of the same things as subnautica so that apparently makes the game itself bad, I must feed my down with the haters hunger.

(Note only now started playing below zero, I did check the map real quick to see the size.)

[next current]

I dunno... One map looks larger to me than the other.

[summer oar]

....

Dude literally did not even read my message.

Fine if you dont wanna read that all just read the following:

[summer oar]

Dunes, most of crash zone, mountains. A lot of space from a lot of biomes serving 0 purpose more than 30% of that biome. Take all that out of the map

and it basically is the same size. Some biomes serve 0 purpose but have cool stuff like sea treaders.

[heavy ibex]

uhhhhhhhh

should i go in?

[bold monolith]

In its mouth?

[heavy ibex]

in the ventgarden

[bold monolith]

Why not?

[heavy ibex]

im in

[summer oar]

😮 Excited to get there hahaha

[heavy ibex]

got what i needed, left and this guy was chasing me, i hate brutesharks so much

[summer oar]

Wdym? Looks kinda peaceful

[frigid thorn]

You couldn't write more...

[summer oar]

Those same as the starting area sharks?

[summer oar]

@frigid thornjust read that then

[frigid thorn]

Brutesharks are very easy to kill

[frigid thorn]

Ok

I'm gonna do that

[summer oar]

If people can't read that they should stop making dumb reasons why bz is a bad game.

[frigid thorn]

Bz is a great sequel

I have a friend ho prefers Below Zero over Subnautica

[summer oar]

yes

[frigid thorn]

Can't say the same, but Below Zero isn't a bad game at all

[summer oar]

Like the thing is the haters reasons for below zero being bad are usually just pointing out things that made subnautica 1 subnautica 1.

Some how the game is a bad game because the story is more direct

Also I have to ask

how often is it that you see people completing subnautica 1 with 0 assistance outside the game itself.

That is a huge no no if it is almost impossible to complete a game 100% without outside knowledge.

[abstract panther]

i remember there was like an eruption zone somewhere in the arctic kelp caves, does anyone know where exactly?

[summer oar]

I don't think u read it but in a nutshell take out dunes, mountains, most of the crash zone, crag field, sea treaders path, the edge of grand reef (pretty big) + small pointless area in different biomes. Take them all out and you wouldn't even notice. What is left is basically the same size as below zero. Sry I have a habit of making msgs long

I have heard stuff like "oh it's way too small" bad game.

Nah subnautica 1 just feels bigger.

[bold monolith]

You could say the same for Below Zero. If you remove the World Edge, the West Arctic and Glacial Connection, the Sparse Arctic, the East Arctic is really just used for the pilot's story and even Tree Spires isn't usually fully explored.

The fact you usually don't go there doesn't mean you should remove these.

Being on land removes a lot also, considering you don't move on the Y axis.

[sacred jungle]

I dont even think i know where the glacial connection is

[bold monolith]

It's just the part under the Glacier, a tunnel leading you to the Glacial Basin as well, with jellyfish eggs.

[sacred jungle]

Is it like in the lake near || the antidote || ?

[eternal garnet]

the connection ends at the lake, yes

the other end is where the eye jellies concentrate. At the bottom, under the ice

[summer oar]

So I have only heard what people think about below zero. I just started playing it so my information is based on the (mostly negative) youtube reviews I have come across in time.

Yes well I have to explore it for myself but the fact is does below zero need to be larger?

Cus subnautica 1 has a lot of what I call "gameplay filler" add things to explore and do but really give little progression or usefulness in the main gameplay.

Like fr example dunes and mountains.

And a lot of the crash zone.

ahh damn it, I can't think about this rn. Really tiring day, my brains just want to go on auto pilot.

[summer oar]

Removes a lot... Perhaps but in a way there are a lot of biomes in subnautica that have very little need for vertical movement.

[bold monolith]

You'll see if you go in the Arctic (East and West) and World Edge, or even the Sparse Arctic that they could be considered fillers as well. People reading here, especially a playtester, know how subjective the reviews are. There are some point on which I agree on, and some that I do not. I don't think you can argue about the map though, it's a fact. But you know that bad reviews are mostly there because of the comparison with both games. On its own, Below Zero is pretty good.

[waxen trail]

Ah yes Subnautica, I love "dead ecosystem biome #10"

[waxen trail]

Filler isn't bad if it's good filler, which Tree Spires is compared to mountains, dunes, sparse reef and sea treaders ( I can't get over that 95% of the Sea Treaders path is actually Grand Reef). Tree Spires has a lot more unique fauna and flora, my only criticism is sticking 2 leviathans in it for some awful reason. But I give it points for trying rather than be boring copy-pasted dead biome

I still and will always believe Below Zero does a lot more with the space provided as opposed to the original

[haughty bridge]

nah

subnautica wipes

below zero is fun but it just does not have the same feel as the first game

[waxen trail]

This conversation about which one is better as a whole, or about "feel"

But thanks for expressing your opinion

[haughty bridge]

subnatica is definitely better as a whole

[waxen trail]

then have fun with that game 👍

[summer oar]

Yes. Below zero is a good game but people act like it is subnautica 1. If it does not have something in the way subnautica 1 its a bad game.

I just now actually realised

I have heard how BZ has only 2 leviathans

so does subnautica 1.

[waxen trail]

BZ has as many leviathans as the first game though

[summer oar]

Does it?

Like reaper ghost killers

[waxen trail]

Shadow and Chelicerate

[summer oar]

Yeah, the equilievanet (apologies) for reaper and ghost

sea dragon and emperor are not really the same

are the grown ups passive tho?

[waxen trail]

Yes

BZ has as many hostile leviathan species as the original

and then having 2 passive ones

[summer oar]

Ye

Wait is the third type neutral? Like commonly

was neutral the name for the type that attacks when attacked (not subnautica talk, just overall)

[waxen trail]

Subnautica doesn't really have aggression types like that really

Most creatures are either aggressive are passive

some might be less aggressive than others, but all creatures that can attack will usually do so without reason

[summer oar]

Well yes that would mean you could be able to attack them hahaha

[waxen trail]

there's no temperament mechanic

[summer oar]

Or way too big to hunt you in a small box the temperature of the sun

Sea dragons...

big fish

Tho kinda small

Always a bigger fish

[steel stream]

In the first game, sea trader, only attacks if you harass the children (and may kick you if you are in their path)

[summer oar]

My vehicle bay has dissapeared.

[waxen trail]

I guess Pengwings also do the same actually

[summer oar]

Why are there no stalkers 😦

[steel stream]

Well yes, but I thought the talk was about leviathans

[eternal garnet]

they evolved to be on icy land, apparently

[summer oar]

The neutral part wasn't

like really, but kinda was depending on the pov

In the middle of a stormy day, my trusty survival knife as my companion I shall craft the ultimate truck of seas!

[summer oar]

Met my first chelicerate at a safe distant, kinda nice :3!

Gonna go scan this cutey

Oh wait its just a squidshark haha

NOT FUN

[clever crow]

take sum medkits for shrimp scan

[summer oar]

Shrim?

Got just 1 with me rn but back to full health.

[clever crow]

chelicirate is a shrimp

[summer oar]

Ah

[clever crow]

and unlike squidshark, you can't outswim it

it does a lot of damage

[summer oar]

Well depends, how much cover do I have to play with.

[sour thicket]

is bz worth getting

[jovial anchor]

I'd say so