below-zero-chat

[tacit thorn]

You can use grav ball even on land to grab most of the hidden ores

[next current]

Because their fragment location was replaced with the Prawn Suit Grappling Arm.

[bright sapphire]

||seems weird though? because like clues lead you to look for outpost zero (and because of that outpost phi) first when you arrive in delta station due to emmanuel's logs saying she was transferred there. so how did devs actually intend the player to find the stations in what order?||

[marble veldt]

oh

whats a root pustule

[eternal garnet]

yellow large thing on kelp roots

caves under creepvines

[next current]

They have the highest bioreactor energy output.

[rugged jacinth]

Is it me or does Below Zero lack way more aggressive fauna than the first game

Idk why but it always feels like I’m safe wherever I go even in the purple vents area

[eternal garnet]

I hear this a lot, but I still don't agree

[safe sun]

Excluding the baby snow stalker, pengling and pengwing, it's 12 carnivores vs SN1's 13.

[eternal garnet]

you forgot the carnivore spy penglings

[safe sun]

lol

Also didn't include leviathans

[viral knot]

Until you hear cheli roar

[rugged jacinth]

One time I scanned it when the game first came out and swam away unharmed and realized I scanned a leviathan lmao

That thing wouldn’t last against a Reaper it’s way more docile

That or they just fail to acknowledge my presence

[viral knot]

then shadow leviathan shows up

[rugged jacinth]

Only thing that had me spooked

[viral knot]

cheli often seems to just ignore me

[rugged jacinth]

I honestly think that the chelicerate is stupid

[viral knot]

Like i just use that afterburner upgrade and zoom past it and it doesnt follow me

[rugged jacinth]

Game wise and literally

[viral knot]

Same here

[rugged jacinth]

Like for a leviathan it is way too docile

[viral knot]

but man shadow leviathan is scary

[viral knot]

Yeah

[next current]

She is a respectable Leviathan!

We love her dearly here.

[rugged jacinth]

The chelicerate?

[next current]

Yes.

[viral knot]

Chelicerate frien :>

[next current]

:3

[lime grove]

i liek shrimp leviathan

[viral knot]

yis

[next current]

We all like Shrimp.

[viral knot]

at first it was so scary to me but now next time i play bz im just gonna come next to it and scan it

without killing it

A base between blue crystal caves and red crystal caves

What do you think?

Shadow leviathan observatory

[next current]

Sounds dangerous. Bring health kits.

Just in case y'know?

[marble veldt]

why is snowfox so depressingly slow

[eternal garnet]

try sprint key

[marble veldt]

i did

[viral knot]

Snowfox useless

prawn better for travelling on ground

take grapple arm and boom you are super fast

[brazen hound]

It's fun to use

[viral knot]

especially when you glitch and fall out of world yeah

[brazen hound]

Ye that's the best part

[unkempt scroll]

So about Crystal Caves.

[brazen hound]

Also is it normal that the seamonkeys just don't steal from me they just give me stuff mostly nickel even

[viral knot]

Honestly navigating through purple crystal caves is so easy for me

[brazen hound]

I have never had something been stolen by one maybe a year AGo but not recent

[viral knot]

place 2 or 3 beacons in places you get confused where to go and problem solved

I only have 1 beacon there and that is red crystal caves entrance

[unkempt scroll]

I hate how when you reach this Area ||Alan|| says that you need to find something but he is unsure of what exactly.

[brazen hound]

I have no beacons there cuz i just know where it is tbh it's my base location

[viral knot]

because…?

[viral knot]

I am planning to build a base there

[unkempt scroll]

Because there are two things you need to find in this place!

And one of them is pretty dawn well hidden.

[brazen hound]

Ye the friend isn't that friendly to my seat tuck tho

[viral knot]

Yeah

[viral knot]

I found both of them easily

[viral knot]

Shadow levi observatory >>>>>

[unkempt scroll]

I located the ||place where you build Alan body|| and left because I thought I was done with this place.

[brazen hound]

I love the shadow leviathan

[unkempt scroll]

How was I supposed to know there is yet another thing I need to find there expecially considering how dawn missable it is.

[viral knot]

||alan did a good job hiding phase gate from alterra💀||

[viral knot]

Same here

[unkempt scroll]

I like the way it tries to swallow me.

[viral knot]

I like its roar when it notices me

It’s so scary

[unkempt scroll]

Nope.

[brazen hound]

My favorite part of BZ where the seamonkeys and exploring the many caves in it

[viral knot]

I hate these small caves

[brazen hound]

Howwww

[viral knot]

I can’t navigate in there

[unkempt scroll]

Skill issue.

[viral knot]

Yeah

[unkempt scroll]

Why is there no sonar radar in BZ???

[brazen hound]

I tried bz speedrunning but that wasn't as fun as Subnautica Speedrunning

[viral knot]

bz speedrunning is pointless

[brazen hound]

Map is so small wouldn't get much use out of it

[unkempt scroll]

Crystal Caves.

[viral knot]

there is voice acting and everything just makes you want to stay longer

[brazen hound]

If never had a problem navigating there

[viral knot]

Same here

Though it is dark

[unkempt scroll]

Well I did. And I would not if I had sonar radar.

[brazen hound]

The only place that was difficult to navigate trough was like the white caves with the big flowers

[unkempt scroll]

???

[viral knot]

On land?

[brazen hound]

No

[viral knot]

oh no wait, i know what you’re talking about

[brazen hound]

Under Lilly

[viral knot]

Yeah it was kinda problematic for me at first too

[unkempt scroll]

How do you guys find it hard to navigate through deep lily pads and monkey caves???

[brazen hound]

I kept running in circles

[viral knot]

Yep, ||squid shork eggs area||

[unkempt scroll]

Yet have no problem navigating through crystals caves???

This is just beyond me.

[brazen hound]

Used to i don't find it hard to navigate anywhere anymore

[brazen hound]

Yes

[viral knot]

if you come often there you know the way

if sn3 will have multiplayer it’ll be the best story-coop game

[brazen hound]

Mhhm

Sn 2 ...

[viral knot]

whatever you’d like to call it

[brazen hound]

Lol

[viral knot]

I call it sn3 bc 3rd subnautica game

[brazen hound]

Ye

I just want a bigger map again that are all my demands

[viral knot]

bigger map + deeper caves + more deep caves + some land as in BZ + a lot of new cool structures to build etc

[brazen hound]

Ye

Cuz BZ with a bigger map had so much potential

[viral knot]

Yep

[brazen hound]

It's a shame they didn't do that tbh

[viral knot]

Yeah

[brazen hound]

Even tho it still is a really nice game

[viral knot]

Agreed

Only if the map was bigger…

It would’ve been so much better

[brazen hound]

If the map was bigger it would have been better than Subnautica

[viral knot]

I just wanted to say that

[brazen hound]

Cuz even tho i used to hate the sea trucks i love it now

It's just such a great thing

Aight Imma try to catch some sleep gn bro

[viral knot]

Same, gn m8

[unborn lake]

My problem with the seatruck was that its a direct downgrade from the cyclops

Extra power or solar panels would make It more appealing

Its "all" we have so at the end of the day you either accept It or use a seaglide

With that said, i prefer the seatruck over the seamoth

[quiet sierra]

can someone get me the png of this?

hold up

the thing in the middle

[soft reef]

How do I unlock the sea glide?

[broken badge]

Scan fragments, should be some around the area you start, where it’s fairly shallow, and also the creepvine areas have some fragments as well

[gritty nova]

Get a scanner tool from your lifepid fabricator (cost: 1 battery and 1 titanium) and look for boxes what say “CARGO” and inside those boxes (if they are open) u can find seaglides scan them and after u get the minimum required fragments you unlock the blueprint

And then you can craft it in the fabricator

[soft reef]

Yea I have all of that but i have been swimming around the starting area and nearby biomes for like 10 mins and only found one fragment

[gritty nova]

Wait nvm this is BZ this isnt sub 1

Look just look around near the surface

Its usually in plain sight

Not in caves

[soft reef]

I havent been looking in caves only near surface

[gritty nova]

Ok

Do you know delta base

[soft reef]

yes

[gritty nova]

Bear twisty bridges there u can find some seaglides near deltra near surface

I found like 4 there

[soft reef]

ty

looking for fragments in this game sucks

[eternal garnet]

that could be because monkeys take them and hide them in their nests

[jolly horizon]

Just got done beating below zero, it was absolutely astonishing

[dusty plover]

Makes it easier to find imo

You can see the sea monkey nests from afar and know there are fragments

[dusty plover]

Mineral scanner helps alot

[rugged jacinth]

Hot take but I think the mineral scanner was sort of a mistake to add in

I kinda liked the challenge of scavenging resources without any help

Plus it doesn’t really help with how the map is in Below Zero. All the biomes are nice but the terrain is just not challenging to navigate through like the first game. The Mineral Scanner (in my opinion) doesn’t help all that much

[rugged jacinth]

Don’t get me wrong tho I still like using it lmao

[severe hornet]

hello you guys

[steel stream]

Biggest downside of mineral detector is the short range, but have to admit that with controller (ps4) the vibration when it finds something really helps

[marble veldt]

snowfox sux

how to get to ||alien artifact Q59||

[viral knot]

I think it is in ||koppa||

[marble veldt]

what is ||koppa||

[viral knot]

||alterra mining facility, near delta station if you want to know||

[marble veldt]

well i mean its right under the ||island||

what are the ||"revanous creatures" that alan told me to beware of||

[viral knot]

yeah i said near delta bc i didnt want to spoil exact location

[viral knot]

when did he tell you that

[marble veldt]

after going ||to the other side of the bridge in phi robotics||

well its definetly ||a worm||

[viral knot]

oh, it is ||ice worm||, it is very dangerous

[marble veldt]

how dangerous

should i be scared

[viral knot]

very dangerous

[viral knot]

do you have ||prawn|| or are you just there on your feet?

[marble veldt]

on feet

i dont even know where ||prawn frags are||

i have a ||snowfox|| though

[viral knot]

You’ll find them after some time

[marble veldt]

should i quickly ride out

||i already scanned the broken pipe thing||

[viral knot]

||you’ll feel vibrations and ground shaking, this tells you that ice worm is near||

[marble veldt]

its not like i almost died to it

is the ||pipe thing|| the only thing i have to scan?

[viral knot]

the what pipe thing, sorry i don’t remember

[viral knot]

Yeah that’s ||alien „cable” or something i think||

[marble veldt]

yeah i think so

but is that it

[viral knot]

what do you mean by „it”?

[marble veldt]

i scanned it

[viral knot]

yeah you scanned it

[marble veldt]

can i go away now

[viral knot]

you might wanna go further in that land

[marble veldt]

OH COME ON

[viral knot]

there is something pretty cool there

you can do it later though

no need to go there rn

[marble veldt]

what if i just use the ||snowfox||

[viral knot]

play as you want

[viral knot]

Fast

You should do that if you dont have prawn

[marble veldt]

am i in a bad position

[viral knot]

go away.

[viral knot]

it is majestic tho

just try to avoid it

[marble veldt]

nooo

i dont have an ||ion cube||

i foudn the ||arch||

are ther any nearby?

whats the ||green goo||

[marble veldt]

should i go down

wasnt worth it

[dusty plover]

When presented with the option, always go down.

It could've been though

[marble veldt]

not when you dont have a laser cutter :/

[dusty plover]

Been a while since I've played below zero, why do you need a laser cutter in a cave?

[marble veldt]

ice

shortcut probably

[viral knot]

Well explore as you want, you’ll find something there

[dusty plover]

I know you need it for the iceburg with stuff in it, but I never ran into a cave that needed a laser cutter iirc.

[viral knot]

Damn I didnt reply to message

[marble veldt]

no ||ion cube|| :(

[viral knot]

Well

[dusty plover]

You don't have any?

[viral knot]

you’ve found something

[marble veldt]

have one at base

[viral knot]

If you want to explore more, do so. But it is at your own risk. Be aware of ice worms

[marble veldt]

MULTIPLE??

[dusty plover]

There's just one right?

[viral knot]

it was a small joke

[viral knot]

I think so

[marble veldt]

silly little goofy goober

[viral knot]

goofy ahh joke

[marble veldt]

what the hell is a thumper???

[lime grove]

a tool

[viral knot]

Looks like ||ice worm|| thingy lol

[marble veldt]

can you guess what it is?

jukebox music did NOT have to be such a banger

[cold nebula]

I got all of the architect body cache and now my objective is to go on a suicide mission to the red crystal caves

Because I might have potentionally let my prawn suit get obliderated

[cold nebula]

Used to distract ice worms

I almost killed the shadow leviathen but it clipped out kf reality and caught me off guard

[marble veldt]

is the "inactive volcano" dangerous

ill take that as a yes

[brazen hound]

Why would u kill it ??

[viral knot]

idk

[marble veldt]

an ice worm

[viral knot]

.

[marble veldt]

im starting to think its not really a spoiler

also why are there so many polish people here

[lime grove]

because they like the games

[marble veldt]

we really do i guess

OH FOR GOODNESS

[crisp flicker]

A thumper is a tool that makes vibrations in the ground attracting the worm so you can run away or something

[next current]

This is no longer the case. The Thumper is a deployable device that prevents ice worms from spawning in a large radius around the Thumper. This radius can be visually seen on the ground.

[brazen hound]

Fr that's pretty useful than

[eternal garnet]

it's not, cause it won't follow you around

[brazen hound]

Ye but for a base

[eternal garnet]

inside your base you are safe anyway

[brazen hound]

Lol for ur base where u have ur snow fox parked

[viral knot]

bc polska gurom

[west mountain]

Reasonably save. It can hurt even if you are inside, if you are unlucky.

[west mountain]

And it drains the battery like nothing else. Its close to useless. I was thinking of making a thumber highway, which would work, if the thumber only would activate when you are within radius and if it would not drain the battery within minutes. But once you realize that the iceworm is by far no danger to you if you keep your health up and your vehicle repaired, then everything becomes much easier.

[brazen hound]

Ah ok i was just trying to think of some ways to make it work

[west mountain]

Nop, dont waste too much time with it. Once you have enjoyed the various ceworm attack animations you can simply move on and ignore it.

[undone jetty]

Okay, I'm trying to settle a debate. Subnautica or Below Zero, which is better?

[west mountain]

BZ, settled. Thank you! 🙂

[eternal garnet]

the question is kinda wrong

[undone jetty]

sorry, which is 'better'

[eternal garnet]

that didn't fix it

[undone jetty]

okay well how do i fix it.

[eternal garnet]

SN is more popular with more players still. I like BZ more

[brazen hound]

Ye ik it's such a bad Levi it jumps u than just don't know what to do anymore and just stands there

[undone jetty]

the question is overall which game is better in your opinion

[brazen hound]

Embarrassed

[undone jetty]

thats why i asked which is the best, not which is statistically speaking more successful, as i could have done that research on my own

[brazen hound]

Oh easily Subnautica 1 lol

[undone jetty]

yeah i agree

[brazen hound]

The small map of bz annoys me to much

[unkempt scroll]

There is SeaTruck in BZ!

And there is no SeaTruck in OG game.

[undone jetty]

i mean i was fine with it but the story-telling felt a bit lazier and i didnt get my thalassophobia as triggered

[unkempt scroll]

So obv OG game is better.

[undone jetty]

in the OG subnautica I literally had a panic attack a handful of times, like stop playing i couldnt breathe bad

never got that in below zero. and that might just be because i experienced it but i had that happen in the OG when i picked it up recently again, even despite knowing everything that was there

[marble veldt]

the story probably would go for bz because its not just "crash into planet funny aliens fail to find a cure to a bacteria im too lazy to write more"

but overall sn is better i think

[undone jetty]

||i disagree because the story of subnautica felt complex and layered, whereas the story of BZ felt pointless and tedious. we find out that ultimately sam's death was caused by her own negligence, theres no evidence of Alterra planning to use the kharaa and it could have been used for anything, and the AL-AN plotline feels tedious as well||

[unkempt scroll]

The “Find out what happened to the Sam” part of the story is just bad.

[undone jetty]

||alterra is supposed to be the evil megacorp but iirc theres never any evidence to say they're actually evil and we're just being paranoid. also, the whole cure found by SAM thing is insanely plotholey||

recall in the first game a race of superaliens could not find that cure over a huge period of time. and some random human does that alone, without the sea emperor? we never get that explained

[unkempt scroll]

First it starts as your main objective and the it just turns into a side quest you can literally just not do to complete the game. And if you do SURPRISE. ||Sam really did die out of her negligence||

[undone jetty]

exactly

[marble veldt]

they wanted to force sea emperor

[undone jetty]

literally ||everything is as it seemed.||

[unkempt scroll]

I expected Alan storyline to be a side quest but it became the main one.

[undone jetty]

they never explain that ||sam found the cure as a result of previous cures or anything like that||

[brazen hound]

The story of bz is not good at all in my opinion|| u go to a Planet discovering the secrets of what happened to ur sis just to find out she jumped to conclusions and blew herself and an innocent worker up||

[undone jetty]

||your sister is a terrorist, thats the plot||

[brazen hound]

Fr

[undone jetty]

i cant tell you how boring the ALAN plot was for me too, ||like woo, go to a site, get exposition dumped, scan something, go to another site repeat the processs||

[unkempt scroll]

Yeah… with that I don’t blame them for making Alan side story the main one really.

[marble veldt]

ill just hope the third game has a big map (iirc the map can be up to 30km but i forgot) good story and a good character

[undone jetty]

||we get to go to his homeworld because he wants to redeem himself yet the curing the K part of BZ isnt even required. youd think he wouldnt leave without curing it in this region but nope, he just leaves||

[undone jetty]

how about the third one has a character we can project ourselves onto, or the character actually feels interesting. something BZ didnt do either of

[marble veldt]

i hope that if there would be a "call" system like with alan it has effect on the story

[undone jetty]

the map does need to be big though. and it needs to be more vertical

[unkempt scroll]

Yeah that just breaks Alan character.

[undone jetty]

the map in BZ mainly felt horizontal. like yeah you go deeper but its so gradual and slow you dont notice it

where as in SN, when you first go to the grand reef or kelp zone, its this huge dropoff

[unkempt scroll]

Also there are like 2 deep biomes there.

Just two.

[undone jetty]

those massive patches of empty water that make me think 'what the hell is around here' just dont exist in BZ

[marble veldt]

and it needs to have bases that you can restore and not have to build multiple (that is if its gonna be in water)

[undone jetty]

and the leviathans are just.. not scary. you see them instantly in those biomes, they don't try and evade your view, the sound design isnt as good, and they're not as scary either

[unkempt scroll]

What no?

It does not need that.

[undone jetty]

it needs a cyclops or something like it to act as a mobile base

[unkempt scroll]

Hey. It’s not like leviathans in OG game are very scary.

[undone jetty]

they are.

[brazen hound]

Only in the purple crystal cave for the first time

[unkempt scroll]

Leviathans are good enough in BZ. I liked them.

[unkempt scroll]

Nope.

[undone jetty]

they're mediocre and while i respect your opinion, i know that many people agree with mine

and the leviathans themselves arent like terrifying, but their sound design is, and their behavior

[marble veldt]

i just dont want to keep building new bases every once in a while

[brazen hound]

Idk don't find shrimps that scary the shadow leviathan was perfect tho

[undone jetty]

the shadow was cool but we see him once in an enclosed space

[unkempt scroll]

What’s wrong with shrimp and shadow leviathan sound design and behaviour?

[brazen hound]

Ye i live there so I see him every time

[unkempt scroll]

Giant Shrimp is also cool you know.

[brazen hound]

Shrimp isn't scary enough it's littarly a minor inconvenience

[undone jetty]

if you cant spot it off the gate, then im not going to explain it to you. its either there or not for you, and you either know that the magic is missing or you dont, its hard to explain

i mean the og leviathans arent the hugest deal either

but what they did right was the terror

i cant count how many times i heard a reaper before i saw one, just getting glimpses thru the water

[brazen hound]

Ghost is more scary cuz everytime I see it i have good loot on me

[unkempt scroll]

Shrimp is genuinely more intimidating than reaper becaus it’s more agressive and it’s design is not goofy.

[undone jetty]

and the lore drops like 'if you can hear a reaper, it can see you' was just terrifying

[undone jetty]

i am flabbergasted that is your belief

[brazen hound]

It's a shrimp it's as Goofy as it get

[undone jetty]

that is your opinion but the temptation i have to say some opinions are wrong is there

but they're not

[unkempt scroll]

I am flabbergasted you would deny that reaper design is not goofy.

Reapers look weird. They are way too long than they should have been.

From one perspective they look a silly overgrown worm.

[undone jetty]

all im saying is that its a general agreement that the OG leviathans are better and i wasnt here to discuss that, i was here to discuss the games overall

[brazen hound]

I don't think me and innocent agree on anything tbh lol

[undone jetty]

BZ has some good features but ultimately it falls short

if BZ had ended up being the first game they would have been the most successful

[unkempt scroll]

Idc about general agreement. BZ have lots of problems but leaviatans are not one of them.

[undone jetty]

they def are one of them

[brazen hound]

Ye they started strong with twisty bridges than failed to make another biom that looks so cool

[undone jetty]

BZ would have gotten praise and critique, and then when subnautica came out, it would have been better in most ways

i only hope the third installment returns to what they did right

[brazen hound]

I think we watched the same video on yt

[unkempt scroll]

Biome with ||thermal gardens|| is cool.

[undone jetty]

and i hope we leave ALAN and Robin to do their own thing

[undone jetty]

what video?

i havent watched anything on BZ like ever lol

[unkempt scroll]

It’s actually possible that we are going to have Subnautica BZ 2 and not Subnautica 2 lmao.

[brazen hound]

Something like what whent wrong with bz

[unkempt scroll]

I think I watched it.

[undone jetty]

how about we dont get a continued story?

[brazen hound]

If the map is bigger I'm not complaining much

[unkempt scroll]

It was long ago though.

[undone jetty]

of either one.

i dont want robin or the first games story continued

they're both concluded and one of them was significantly lackluster and boring

they should start afresh

anyways im gonna go conclude my argument because the general take is SN is better it seems

[unkempt scroll]

Yeah… good luck them with that.

They really either are going to continue Alan and Robin story or just not.

With how BZ ended I say it is very likely.

[brazen hound]

Anyways next Subnautica needs the cyclops

[mellow geode]

there's nothing to continue for SN
BZ continuation unlikely since ||it'll probably be off 4546B||

[unkempt scroll]

Please remove SeaTruck or make it better I am begging you.

It’s just cringe.

[undone jetty]

ST was scuffed and destroyed progression. if the next SN ends up being massive with co-op id love to see the atlas properly imagined

[marble veldt]

i want a cyclops that you make yourself

[brazen hound]

I don't have any problem with seatruck i like it very much i gtg tho

[unkempt scroll]

Huh? Don’t you literally do that?

[brazen hound]

Innocent ur opinion is wrong

[undone jetty]

this ^
i hope that ends up being the case

[unkempt scroll]

We really won’t agree on anything like that.

[marble veldt]

no like a moving base

[unkempt scroll]

Using SeaTruck is wrong.

[marble veldt]

you get a piece like the seatruck

and you build stuff on top of it

[undone jetty]

seatruck was bad and broke progression
leviathans of BZ were scuffed and not scary
BZ story was mediocre and forced
SN OG was better in almost every way
those are my opinions, i leave now

[marble veldt]

thats what silly me thought seatruck was before getting it

[mellow geode]

seatruck could've been better but it ain't cringe

prawn > both

[unkempt scroll]

I’m telling you all. BZ Leviathans are extremely underrated.

[lime grove]

worm

[unkempt scroll]

Prawn>Prawn Suit.

[mellow geode]

that's if you're coming from SN. if you see BZ by itself the leviathans are not that bad

[unkempt scroll]

Unfortunately. Cyclops>Prawn Suit.

Actually not unfortunately. It’s a good thing actually.

[mellow geode]

cyclops too chonk

[unkempt scroll]

Leviathans in BZ just as good as Leviathans in Subnautica.

[unkempt scroll]

Prawn Suit 2 smol

[mellow geode]

disagree

prawn suit much more flexible compared to cyclops

[unkempt scroll]

Cyclops can function as a mobile base.

Prawn Suit cannot.

[mellow geode]

look if all you can do is disagree and insist on your opinion then there's nothing to discuss

having a mobile base is almost a moot point given the prawn's mobility and range

especially given BZ's map size, cyclops ain't even gonna be very much useful

[unkempt scroll]

That is I only have to agree.

[lime grove]

cyclops wouldnt even fit in half of the biomes

[mellow geode]

even with SN you can pretty much traverse the entire map in a prawn with not too much difficulty but that's a different topic and not for this channel

[unkempt scroll]

The point of Prawn Suit is mobility and range. But Cyclops does not need to be mobile and range since like I said before it’s a mobile base. You would not want your mobile base to be small and mobile.

Unless you want a SeaTruck and you do not want a SeaTruck.

[lime grove]

seatruck has its own pros and cons same with cyclops

[mellow geode]

my point is that there is no real need for a massive mobile base in BZ and the seatruck is actually quite sufficient to serve as a viable alternative

[unkempt scroll]

Unfortunately those cons overweight the pros.

[mellow geode]

what do you list as cons

[unkempt scroll]

Dawn it. Wait let me edit that.

1. The storage. 2. The inability to build stuff inside SeaTruck like you could with cyclops. 3. ||Aquarium and teleportation modules are cringe||. 4. It’s slow and immobile for no reason since it barely functions as mobile base. 5. No sonar radar(WHY?)

[mellow geode]

1. skill issue if you need to be hauling all your resources with you
2. personal preference
3. don't need to use them if you don't like them
4. again, skill issue
5. because it's not really required given BZ's map size and biomes

[lime grove]

seatruck can shock levaithans away so sonar isnt as needed

[unkempt scroll]

How TF is a need to haul resources a skill issue? You need to gather resources and some equipment all the time in both OG and BZ. And while Cyclops solves this problem SeaTruck with how limited it’s storage is just does not. It is also SeaTruck issue that it becomes slow and immobile with all modules stuck into when it literally should not with how small it still is in comparison to cyclops. not mine in any way.

And about sonar… Crystal Caves exist. Sonar still does not.

[viral knot]

same, i love sea truck

[mellow geode]

the way i see it, because bz map is so small there's no need for a mobile base to begin with, which negates a lot of your gripes about the seatruck's size and mobility. but each to his/her own playstyle i guess

[unkempt scroll]

I have to agree that you are right about points 2 and 3 though.

[unkempt scroll]

Pfft. There is always a need for a mobile base BECAUSE. IT. IS. COOL.

[mellow geode]

for me, one base in deep twisty bridges right on the edge with thermal spires and purple vents is all i need

i can basically go everywhere in my prawn from there, and my seatruck basically just serves as some additional storage and prawn dock for when i can't be bothered to jump jet/grapple everywhere

[unkempt scroll]

Yeah. The Prawn Module in SeaTruck is the best module ngl.

[latent aurora]

Third best imo

Teleportation module is number 2

I like the aquarium best

When it comes to usefulness you're right tho

[pliant jetty]

Low tier opinion, prawn can carry stuff for a camp site

Thermal plant, door, fabricator, scan room

[twilit laurel]

Any mod out here i have a question is below zero going on ps plus?

[unkempt scroll]

Yeah sorry. Forgot for a second Prawn Suit can do all of that.

My mistake.

[pliant jetty]

Future generations may forgive you

[safe sun]

Us mods will never know the answer to this

[brazen hound]

I would think so when Subnautica 2 is confirmed but thats gonna be a while

[pliant jetty]

Yeah, that'll be good promotion

[quiet sierra]

Can someone get me a png of this in the old bz files?

[quiet sierra]

Hello?

[latent aurora]

What is the market from?

[viral knot]

If someone has it they'll reply

[latent aurora]

I tried to reverse image search couldn't find nothing

[quiet sierra]

No it’s in the bz files

[eternal garnet]

only cleaned up

On steam, you can still play the old story. Enter beta code belowzeroearlyaccess then run version EA 8.

[sharp talon]

You can also download depots, you'll need the specific date though, it'll show all of th experimental builds leading to release, and post release

[quiet sierra]

Thanks

[spark steppe]

Can seamonkeys give ruby?

i have a recipe that requires a ruby pinned but i havent been given any ruby by the seamonkeys only titanium, copper and quartz

[eternal garnet]

yes, but not in twisty bridges

[broken badge]

They can give you anything you have pinned (resources I mean, obviously not stuff like ion cubes) it’s not limited to the biome you’re in. I’ve been given diamond, magnetite, lithium and forget what else by sea monkeys in twisty bridges. They’re only limited by biome resources if they’re giving you stuff NOT from a pinned recipe

Now I don’t know how long it takes That may vary considerably

About sea monkeys and gifts

[broken badge]

So if you read that above the answer is yes, they can (if a recipe is pinned with ruby in it)

If you have ||Al-An||

[spark steppe]

i have already got him and didnt get my scanner stolen like the previous times i played through

i also have synthetic fibers and aerogel pinned

among two other resources

[cold nebula]

I have finished the game.

I also have killed and scanned a shadow levithan

[viral knot]

try to scan it without getting killed or killing it challange lol

[dusky meteor]

I may be no Expert, But I am Fairly Certain, there was a Dock here a minute ago

[viral knot]

i’m gonna navigate my friend to purple crystal caves, tell him to go further bc there is a lot of goodies there and when he arrives there i’m gonna go silent and watch him quit the game forever

this is gonna be such a good show

[viral knot]

Well, no dock anymore

I took it

[viral knot]

he doesnt know about shadow levi

[dusky meteor]

It doesn't matter anyway the game froze and then crashed and I lost my Save 🥲

[viral knot]

[jade narwhal]

😔

[eternal garnet]

if you see that again, the world not loading, avoid saving. it can kill the existing save. And it won't save anyway

[unborn lake]

Where should i go from phi robotics?

East or West?

I've got the prawn

But i need another fragment from the snowfox

[viral knot]

if you have prawn, you won’t even use snow fox

prawn protects you more and with grapple arm you are very fast

||but you can build snow fox just for the achievment||

[viral knot]

both directions have cool stuff

go where you feel like going

[cold nebula]

@viral knot I scanned one without dying and after that the slaughter begun

[viral knot]

Damn

[cold nebula]

Im actually planning To build a base on the crystal cavesbe

Since the first shadow lèviathan cannot respawn on the first entrance of the crystal caves and the 2 shadow leviathans in the red caves wont no clip into the purple crystal (purple vents)

[viral knot]

Can shadow leviathan fight chelicerate?

[vast idol]

Well realistically, no

They are both top tier predators in their respective biomes

But if I were to take a guess then probably the Shadow Leviathan

[viral knot]

Yeah I know

But if you just spawned them in same biome or something

I’d assume shadow levi would win

[vast idol]

Well shadow habitats in a more enclosed and narrower space than chelis

So they have an unfair advantage

and vice versa

[jade narwhal]

imagine a multiplayer mode

[amber leaf]

I hope any Sub multiplayer comes with no PvP.

[paper garnet]

can anyone help me? late game spoiler:|| i have gotten the recipe for alans body but i dont know where to find the location of the tissue and organs. some time has went and alan hasnt told me yet either.||

[unborn lake]

I just Lost 6 hours of progress

I knew the limitation to 1 save on console would be a problem

The Game crashed and my last 6 hours of progress dissapeared

Sad but im not going to grind for +6 extra hours because the game decided to erase my progress

https://www.reddit.com/r/subnautica/comments/neeli9/ps5_save_data_corruptionbuglost_below_zero_no/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

And the worse thing is, +55 people had the same problem

2 years ago and 0 fixes

[west mountain]

Have you been to ||west arctic/phi robotics and did you repair the bridge?||. Also have you found the biome with the ||purple crystals, e.g. crystal cavern||? The one behind Maidas seabase?

[paper garnet]

yes to both

[west mountain]

Well, then go there again. You have to ||cross the bridge and head all the way up north until you cant continue anymore. You can follow the broken architect cable and where it goes underground there you go down as well||

[west mountain]

And for the other you have to go to ||crystal cavern and look for a huge crystal structure that is hanging from the ceiling and raises up from the ground like a castle. There you have to go down as well||

[quiet sierra]

I DID IT

[west mountain]

Excellent!!! Did you ||cure the frozen leviathan?||

[old lodge]

Speedrunning ban any ideas

[vast idol]

You cannot trigger a crash fish

no matter what

[old lodge]

In the discord

What

[viral knot]

uh why would you even do that

especially in discord where you can get help

[brazen hound]

Bros 12

[spark steppe]

attempted and the attempt was successful then killed it

Whats the depth for the ||crystal caverns cache||

[edgy yacht]

Anyone know where zero point is in below zero?

[spark steppe]

dont know what your talking about

[edgy yacht]

The center of the map

[spark steppe]

Delta Station?

[quiet sierra]

No I got the supply drop ping

[spark steppe]

im finally close to beating the game

again

[spark steppe]

got the ||teleportation seatruck module||

does the ||tether tool|| use up ion cubes

[pliant jetty]

Yes

But, there are a few infinite supplies

[spark steppe]

where?

i dont think there are any infinite supply areas for ion cubes in bz

there is one in the original

[pliant jetty]

It's near the uw shortcut you need to laser to across the bridge

It's definitely infinite, but you need to drill them

[spark steppe]

the ion cube deposit

its one and only one doesnt respawn

unlike the original subnautica, below zero has a limited number of ion cubes

but can be charged up by being used and being taken apart whether it be a headlamp, battery or powercell or a built item through the habitat builder

[pliant jetty]

Oh, I didn't realise man that makes the tether kinda trash

[spark steppe]

useful but unwise use

[cold nebula]

Mk3 for the sea truck or prawn suit depth mk2 since there is no 3 for the prawn suit

[novel sparrow]

I just beat Below Zero for the fifth time and god, it never gets tiring

[carmine bobcat]

Oh i remember beating the game once
I forgot to do that 💀

[carmine bobcat]

|| One time i left my tether at the fabrication facility thinking i could just tp there but remembered it had no power and didn’t use it ever ||

[carmine bobcat]

Dialog

I don't think I can get this game becaus3 of it

[steel stream]

Swim charge fins can be used to charge tether tool, but it's awfully slow...practically unfeasibly slow. But recyclotron helps in that: dismantle the tether tool (or anything else with empty ion cube) and craft another recyclotron with the empty ion cube. Then dismantle the newly created recyclotron for a full ion cube

[marble veldt]

this mod is littearly what i thought snowfox was before i made it
https://www.nexusmods.com/subnauticabelowzero/mods/220

like why bother saying it hovers if it barely moves on water

[eternal garnet]

it's not a water vehicle. it used to sink, even

[marble veldt]

then why does it hover??

also wheres the third ||pararell processing unit||

[eternal garnet]

it hovers to annoy the local pengwings, who can't even fly

[marble veldt]

im looking all around the wreck and i cant find it

[marble veldt]

and to annoy players because you need magnetite for it

[eternal garnet]

there may be only 2 in that one. Find another wreck. There's a tiny one and another even bigger one

I'm assuming you found the stern at 100m

[marble veldt]

im at this one

[eternal garnet]

that doesn't tell me much

[marble veldt]

its a big wreck

[eternal garnet]

in purple vents just south of delta?

[marble veldt]

yes

well more like south east

[eternal garnet]

depth 100m. yes this is the middle wreck. All of them are mercury II

[marble veldt]

are there only 2 ppu fragments?

[eternal garnet]

in that one, I think so

[marble veldt]

aw

where do i go to find another one

[eternal garnet]

find the tiny wreck, east limit of purple vents, high up. And important things way below it, after

[marble veldt]

[eternal garnet]

one beacon worthy thing there

Your real purpose here on this planet is to spam it with beacons

[marble veldt]

💀

[subtle gate]

who played atomic heart

[marble veldt]

why are you asking that here

[subtle gate]

I decided to communicate with people who have the same taste as me

[marble veldt]

#off-topic

also lmao "communicate"

[marble veldt]

do i go to the east edge of purple vents?

[eternal garnet]

yes. high up, theres a little wreck, "thrusters"

[marble veldt]

let me guess, its mercury's thrusters?

[eternal garnet]

yes

it's got one scan

[marble veldt]

thats all i need!

[eternal garnet]

and at least two important things deep below

English only, here. This is a warning

[subtle gate]

Okay got it

[marble veldt]

who do you think you are

[subtle gate]

I'm not the devil to say in a sentence damn

[marble veldt]

what

[subtle gate]

in short, the translator is bad

[marble veldt]

yeah so learn english instead

[bold monolith]

Don't be rude CapToad. Also, don't bypass the swear filter. Thank you.

[marble veldt]

wait what

frick is bad?

[subtle gate]

I'm only in the 6th grade

[marble veldt]

which means you are 12?

years old

[unkempt scroll]

You are on thin ice.

[marble veldt]

the russian guy?

[subtle gate]

no

13

[marble veldt]

ok good

[subtle gate]

@marble veldt Soryan that I offended you

[marble veldt]

found it

[marble veldt]

when?

[subtle gate]

Well, when I asked a question and I wanted to write that you ....

[unkempt scroll]

We have no idea what you are talking about.

[marble veldt]

he probably means that he wanted to say that im a idiot in a diffrent way

or other

[vast idol]

Whats happended

[marble veldt]

no idea

[unkempt scroll]

You need to apogise for that???

[marble veldt]

look i have no idea what he meant by that

i think i just got attacked by the "shrimp" leviathan

[marble veldt]

is the shrimp leviathan pink and not shaped like a shrimp at all

[unkempt scroll]

Thats great to hear!

[marble veldt]

and is also a coward

[unkempt scroll]

I like those guys.

They are underrated.

[marble veldt]

it dealt 1 dmg to my seatruck

[vast idol]

I don’t know what I did but the shrimp leviathan really hates me

Last time one literally followed me to the smoke pipe zone

[unkempt scroll]

Perimeter defence.

[marble veldt]

yes

[unkempt scroll]

Yeah they are very agressive!

I like that a lot!

[vast idol]

I don’t

Its not like Im afraid of them pft

[unkempt scroll]

Oh finally someone with guts!

[subtle gate]

You ate his friends

[unkempt scroll]

I also am not afraid of leviathans.

[vast idol]

He wouldve eaten them first anyway

[subtle gate]

xxahahh

[unkempt scroll]

Thats what friends are for!

[subtle gate]

yes yes especially for cannibals

[viral knot]

||teleportation module?||

did i miss something?

i dont remember getting that module upgrade hmm

[west mountain]

You get the blueprint by scanning 10 alien artefacts. But its pretty useless so late in the game.

[viral knot]

oh so i didnt get it

[thin saffron]

just got bz, cant wait to play it tomorrow

[eternal garnet]

[marble veldt]

is the fossil the only thing i can scan here

[eternal garnet]

if you keep going north(?) and down. there's an important deep place. put the beacon there

[marble veldt]

300 crush depth though

[eternal garnet]

k put it here then. Also a green cube nearby

[marble veldt]

yes i took it

[eternal garnet]

you stole it

[marble veldt]

u mean dis?

[eternal garnet]

cache? no

call it "deep" for now

[marble veldt]

should i just try and just

save the game and try to go over there

[eternal garnet]

sure

I do not mean body cache. that's down a different hole

[marble veldt]

yes i know

i have found something i never wanted to find

||kyanite||

subnautica 1 flashbacks

[eternal garnet]

Love that game. Too.

and that's where I wanted you to drop a beacon

at the entrance

[marble veldt]

its fineeee

[eternal garnet]

probably a cute bunny

[marble veldt]

is it the ||shadow leviathan|| that i have been spoiled to for too many times now to ignore

[eternal garnet]

mmmmmmmmaybe

[marble veldt]

is it dangerous

[eternal garnet]

it isn't worse than any red shrimp

maybe it can't hurt you... it doesn't have a mouth

but it will try to eat you with its stomach

[marble veldt]

then why would it hunt me???

[marble veldt]

oh

[eternal garnet]

you can't allcaps, as you noticed

[marble veldt]

what the hell is a rockgrub

[eternal garnet]

the smallest visible creature on the planet

food for the rock puncher

[marble veldt]

is 5 kyanite and 2 magnetite fine

i think that its amazing and i should skedadle now

and never come back

[eternal garnet]

for now

[marble veldt]

what should i do next

[viral knot]

go meet the big shrimp

it won’t hurt you

[marble veldt]

what is this silly goofer

[viral knot]

Goofy aughhh fish

[marble veldt]

is the ||frozen leviathan|| near maida's base?

[fleet apex]

why does my game keep crashing due to unity (on epic games)

[marble veldt]

subnautica and snbz were made in unity

due to unity means littearly nothing

[fleet apex]

yea but every like 5 min it crashes

and then the unity thing pops up

[marble veldt]

is ur pc good

[fleet apex]

yea

[marble veldt]

what does it say

[fleet apex]

nothing. just pops up with the logo then it crashes

[marble veldt]

💀

windows 10 or other os

[fleet apex]

i have windows 11

[marble veldt]

did you tru searching around

[fleet apex]

searching for ?

[marble veldt]

the cause

[fleet apex]

on youtube?

[marble veldt]

i use win10 so i dont know if this will help

[fleet apex]

it only happens with this game tho

[marble veldt]

wait nvm

[fleet apex]

i have cyberpunk and other games but they never crash

[marble veldt]

thats not about bz

did subnautica run well?

if you played it that is

also lets move the convo to dms

[fleet apex]

i havent played the first one yet on this pc

[eternal garnet]

you get a logo? Do you get a black screen+epilepsy warning?

[fleet apex]

it was one of these

[eternal garnet]

did you never get to the menu?

you said above you get a few minutes playtime

[pastel sleet]

Try updating your gpu drivers to the latest?

[fleet apex]

yea they are updated

[fleet apex]

i can play for like 5 minutes then it just crashes

[eternal garnet]

try: options, FPS limit. Start with 30, 60 if your GPU is powerful

[pastel sleet]

what gpu you have?

[eternal garnet]

If that works, your PC is overheating. Default is no FPS limit which means 100% GPU load...

[fleet apex]

3060

[eternal garnet]

yeah. try 60 or maybe 30

test, give results

[pastel sleet]

how about ram?

[fleet apex]

ill try it

[fleet apex]

16.0 gb

[eternal garnet]

like I said, if this helps, your GPU (most likely, maybe CPU) is overheating

[pastel sleet]

yh download a temp monitor so you can see what temps they are at

[eternal garnet]

and if so you should fix that soon

[fleet apex]

my gpu temperature is at 48 degrees celsius

[eternal garnet]

You could get a temp monitor yes, I recommend hwmonitor (sensor mode). It will record max temp in the background for you

both CPU and GPU

[fleet apex]

oaky thanks

[eternal garnet]

well you see, you have to measure ingame

which hwmonitor will. leave it open

[pastel sleet]

and does your fans make a vrooommm noise?

[pastel sleet]

and if it still crashes and temps are low try restarting your pc

[fleet apex]

nope

[fleet apex]

it happened yesterday as well, but ill try restarting if it continues

[spice wyvern]

Will there be achivements on epic games version of below zero?

[pastel sleet]

probably i dont use epic games for anything apart from fortnite

[spice wyvern]

i use it too for fortnite, but I bought subnautica there because of discount coupon

[pastel sleet]

cdkeys i use when buying subnautica / subnautica bz

[bold monolith]

Perhaps one day, who knows. Don't expect it anytime soon. As they are not actively working on it right now.

[soft reef]

How do I get gold?

[eternal garnet]

calaverite, bread looking rock, in eg. kelp root caves. There's some extra gold in a bright cave in the north wall, just 50m west of where you first dropped in the sea. That's to the right, before dropping in

[carmine bobcat]

what now?

[eternal garnet]

now you explore what happens in the void

[tribal arrow]

are the lilypad islands a nice place for a base, in terms of resources?

[eternal garnet]

yes, I think so

[tribal arrow]

it seems like the best option for me so far, since I can't go that deep yet, and it looks amazing

[eternal garnet]

but underwater, so you can water filter+moon pool

[tribal arrow]

I'm also considering building a base in the twisty bridges

[eternal garnet]

in the south parts where it's deeper, that works

[tribal arrow]

what's the easiest way to get lithium?

and diamonds

[eternal garnet]

both are in deep twisty bridge canyon. You can swim, there are o2 plants

that's below 300m

[quartz arch]

underwater arctic biome has a lot of diamonds and lithium

[eternal garnet]

you need: rebreatherr. Large o2 helps a lot

[tribal arrow]

I can't go that deep down

[eternal garnet]

you can though

er, with rebreather. Find it in ||this place at exactly 170m depth||

by a ||little crane||

[tribal arrow]

I got the blueprint already

also, where do I get the beacon blueprint?

[eternal garnet]

scan or steal the one at "emergency supply". Swim west if you didn't get this yet

don't remove the delta dock one, but you can scan it

[tribal arrow]

alright

thanks

[carmine bobcat]

After moving my base 3 times im going to finally retire my 7 module seatruck

[boreal heron]

Bout to beat below zero without any seatruck modules

[next current]

Nice.

[idle rain]

yo is this below zero

yo ay

[carmine bobcat]

No this is the Patrick

[next current]

HA!

[fierce garden]

i love that assessment

[spark steppe]

i needed titanium and every single time i broke an outcrop i got the chanced item instead

i needed it for 2 multipurpose rooms, 2 ladders and 2 bioreactors

[vast idol]

Still kinda mad that the pda voicer doesn’t appear in bz

[ruby harbor]

what are the tree spires for?

||apart from the two chelicerates in there||

[remote geyser]

it's my favorite biome, it is the most beautiful biome in the game btw

apart from that ||there is a vent garden which is home to spiral plants, you need samples of these to finish the game||

[brazen hound]

Well it does make sense since u have another Pda that it would be different

[ruby harbor]

it is a very pretty biome, the thermal spires looking like trees with the coral growing makes a nice atmosphere.

but technically only has that

the ||spiral plant samples||

is there anything else there?

[remote geyser]

||some alien artifact locations and a few blueprints||

[west mountain]

Tree spires is one of the most beautiful and richest biomes in BZ. It has ||the two biggest levianthans of the game, tons of resources (drillable and collectable) like gold, diamonds, uranite, lithium, quartz, titanum, copper, countless fragments, an alien artefact a underground passage to Maidas Base and crystal cavern, two great heat sources for thermal plants|| and THE BEST theme music of all biomes: Cathederal! What more can you ask for?

[vast idol]

So you're telling me that every single pda sound diffrents?

[remote geyser]

cathedral really is so good

instant chills

[brazen hound]

No it's a whole other brand i believe

[mental lodge]

Am I the only one who didnt enjoy the game

[bold monolith]

It is unlikely, even in the Subnautica Discord server.

[vast idol]

Well

There were aspect that I dislike

But I didn't hate the game

If anything I'd say bz is actually better than the base version

[mental lodge]

Yeah same but the constant mono and dialoges destroyed the feeling og loneliness whivh made the first game great

I hope they dont do this in the third game

[vast idol]

Well but

Isn't that the point

[broken badge]

Either go to the deep part of the purple vents, where it grows in the caves below the purple vents area, that’s where I get it from
Or you can visit the tree spires area, and find the giant ventgardens (which are static huge jellyfish like things anchored to the ground and which don’t move, you have to find their entrance to swim inside, but they have plants growing inside, including that one)

[vast idol]

just curious, are the inside of the jellyfish considered a terrain

since the giant red shrimp still appears to try to attack me while Im inside

[broken badge]

You can’t build inside. I’m not sure in what other way you mean “terrain”

[vast idol]

since when I try to place platforms on it

the platform connects

So I was just wondering

didnt complain tho since it made a really sick base that I unfortunately am too afraid to get out of

[broken badge]

I know there are mods that let you build inside. But I think otherwise you’re not supposed to be able to do so, unless there’s some glitch

[tribal arrow]

what's the best source of lead? I've tried to look for galena outcrops in the lilypad biome, but there aren't any

[broken badge]

I find a lot of galena in upper lilypads, around those big floating rock islands. Having a base with scanner room certainly helps

[tribal arrow]

I primarily find the silver ore outcrops there, and I don't have a scanner room yet

[west mountain]

There is tons of galena outcrop in lilypad but unfortunately the rock blends in very well. Best to look for lead is twisty bridges and thermal spires. Use the handheld mineral detector.

[tribal arrow]

I'll give it a try with the mineral detector, I haven't used it yet

[broken badge]

The galena is mixed in with the silver ones
It really helps to turn on the highlight feature under accessibility, if you aren’t already using it
Since it will highlight, among other things, rock outcrops. You can choose the color for the highlight

[tribal arrow]

ah, I forgot about that feature! Didn't want to use it that much, since it felt "cheaty"

[broken badge]

It’s not cheaty at all, it really helps to see things. I use it all the time, especially since it can be hard to find the outcrops. The visibility in many areas is not very good, so this helps a lot

[tribal arrow]

I'm using the mineral detector right now, it's amazing!

Below Zero doesn't have the stasis rifle, right?

[fiery wedge]

To me this is the best subnautica type, cant wait for subnautica 3 tho.

[west mountain]

No, no need for it. You are here to do science not warfare 🙂

[tribal arrow]

I'm pretty sure that studying the effects the extinction of a species would have on the ecology is science

[west mountain]

Then use the seatruck, your best weapon in BZ. Kills (almost) everything!

[tribal arrow]

there's just this squidshark that tends to terrorize me near the base on occasion

[west mountain]

Ram it and its gone

[tribal arrow]

I'll give it a try later

[west mountain]

I also had to thin out the leviathan population in certain areas to make it more comfortabel 🙂

[broken badge]

Deep twisty has a lot, or Koppa mine, for early diamonds

[cold nebula]

Recently I have mined 3 ion deposits for ion power cells for my Prawn suit.

And my base now has expanded to the surface

[steel stream]

Then you have found one way to get diamonds...(if you figured out why he gave it to you...there is a reason)

[next current]

There's ||2 in the Crystal Caves and 2 in the Fabricator Caverns||

[hoary shell]

Sorry to ask, but I heard some rumors about a SN Part 3? Is there something about?

[next current]

The rumors you've heard are very likely false.

[steel stream]

The only confirmed things are unreal engine and the game has water

[hoary shell]

If I'm reading PC Games Article...

Subnautica: developers announce part 3 of the survival series There is reason to rejoice for all fans of Subnautica. The Unknown Worlds team has confirmed the development of a third game in the Survival series. The release is probably a few years away.

😏 That's what I ment

That's the "Rumors" you stated as false

[broken badge]

The ultra capacity tank?

You scan fragments for that in sea monkey nests in the lilypad cave system

[lost verge]

I wish this game was more difficult

I just finished my hardcore run

If the first subnautica was still on gamepass I would start another play through

[steel stream]

Try some options on the custom game mode; for example changing night/day cycle, amount of damage creatures do, amount of damage you do etc

[steel stream]

Is there anything to scan?

No alien artefacts?

Or body parts?

If you are where I think you are, there should be architect skeleton to scan...or have you scanned it earlier? Do you have blueprint for skeleton?

Did you go through a cave with huge flowers and a squidshark when going there?

[next current]

You can always try the Custom Game Mode.

[next current]

There are plenty of Oxygen Plants in the Deep Twisty Bridges. I rarely ever need to take a Seatruck down there.

[amber leaf]

Below Zero: a beautiful and somewhat disappointing game at same time. It gave me a sense of something missing in it.

[viral knot]

too small map?

[modest oar]

I really hope sub 3 has the sea truck, I'm not really sure why so many people seem to not like it. I would love to have the x12 model from the poster, and the teleportation module would be really helpful in multiplayer (I heard it's gonna have multiplayer? is that right?)

[latent mantle]

<@&85343211593166848> this dude needs to be stopped

[lapis peak]

The leviathans arent scary in This game

[modest oar]

I honestly don't care for the horror in Subnautica...

Below Zero moving away from horror and more toward beauty made it so much more of an enjoyable experience in my honest opinion.

I just don't like the fact that the map is small.

...The map being small is one of the biggest criticisms about Below Zero.

It is considerably smaller than Sub 1's map with barely any repeating biomes

[latent mantle]

More like 2.5

BZ is basically dlc size

[modest oar]

A newbie, huh?

Well go and actually explore the BZ map, you'll realize it's so much smaller

It's not lol

[latent mantle]

To be fair BZ feels like a fever dream mixed with subnautica

Its like oh you did this part of the story now heres this and this

[modest oar]

Diamonds are actually really easy to find, they're in the Deep Twisty Bridges with the squid sharks, but they spawn relatively high up so you don't actually have to go far enough to meet the squid sharks

[latent mantle]

Gotta love the friendly monke's

[modest oar]

The Deep Twisty Bridges are really close to spawn

How did I spoil literally anything

[latent mantle]

One of the main things that actually made me enjoy BZ was the sea monke

I needed lithium and here comes timmy with one

They got your back

[modest oar]

cryptosucchus

[latent mantle]

This was at the start of the game when I needed lithium for a helpful item

[modest oar]

I had a pet crypto and my brute shark killed it

[latent mantle]

I can't even remember what it was I needed it for tbh

[modest oar]

I like to hold fish in my hands and feed my army of brute sharks, I had like 6 brute sharks around my base

[latent mantle]

Can't remember doesn't the seatruck depth module mk1 need a plasteel ingot?

Maybe thats what I was making

[modest oar]

I'm gonna be sad if the seatruck isn't in sub 3 :(

[latent mantle]

Probably won't be

I want seamoth tho

Or a hybrid mix of the seatruck and seamoth put together

The seatruck is like an rv

[modest oar]

Maybe not the sea truck specifically but something like it.

I really don't want something like the cyclops to ever appear again, it's a terrible vehicle...

I'm being genuine, go ahead and hate on me if you want, lol

[latent mantle]

Well maybe a smaller cyclops like a little less than half the size but it goes mad fast

That would be nice

Not the size of the seatruck or seamoth but bigger

[modest oar]

I think I can agree some sort of small cyclops would be nice

[latent mantle]

Yup

Cyclops is more useful for a backup storage and knock off moonpool

The reason I say knockoff is because no upgrade console

Well I must be going now

[modest oar]

The Cyclops invalidates any reason to actually make a full base. You can build things in it. It's pretty sturdy and hard to get it destroyed unless you're actively taking it in really dangerous places like the dunes.

What I'm basically saying is it does too much, and it's irritatingly huge as well.

The Sea Truck is basically the cyclops but actually good. It prioritizes hauling materials, so you still have complete reason to actually build a base somewhere to call home.

[latent mantle]

Good talk my friends farewell👋

[modest oar]

Goodbye Void

[tribal arrow]

is there any way to acquire the Snow Stalker fur without getting the ||Spy Pengling||

[eternal garnet]

ya there is fur sprinkled in a specific cave or two

Difficult to find

[tribal arrow]

enough for the full cold suit set?

[eternal garnet]

yes

you only need 4

[tribal arrow]

I'll try to look for it

[eternal garnet]

you will need this tip: the adults fear held flares

cause these caves typically have babies with adults

[elder oasis]

welp I bought BZ on steam sale

hope it works as well as the original on my steam deck

[eternal garnet]

I was told it runs well. but save often

[modest oar]

I tested both games and they run kinda bad unless it's on low settings

[elder oasis]

original subnautica has run great for me on steam deck, no issues at all. i have ~100 hours in exclusively on deck

but they did do a recent release for steam deck so maybe that helped

anyway i'll see first hand once i get it installed and fired up

worst case, i enjoy it on my PC instead

[nocturne sable]

just bought below zero lets see how it goes

[eternal garnet]

[spark star]

I’ve got both games (bz and sub) on my console, though I was going to rebuy subnautica on my pc for mods. I saw that bz is on sale too, should I grab bz aswell? Are there any good mods for it? Or will it not be worth it?

[eternal garnet]

yes, there's a small heap of mods

[spark star]

Okay, I’ll probably grab bz too then.

[languid panther]

i need to replay this

last time i did i killed both shadow leviathans lol

[tired trellis]

at least u guys can play

[eternal garnet]

Why can't you play

[tired trellis]

cant afford the game

[hollow oasis]

How's that steam deck in general. Nice? I've been debating getting it

[elder oasis]

for my use case its been great. it allows me to game from the couch or whatever while my kids do their thing. it also has the "suspend" feature where you can be mid game, pause it, suspend the OS and come right back where you left off. its been great.

I've played thru subnautica with it and also red dead redemption 2

battery life isnt great for these games. subnautica is better than RDR2 for that

[hollow oasis]

Ty. Appreciate it

[modest oar]

Valve has a very strange idea on what they consider to be verified.

I have tested out several games that have the verified status. They either run terribly, have issues, or straight up don't work.

For instance: They marked Dead Space Remake as "performing well on default graphics", when it runs at 15 FPS on default graphics, if not worse. Their target for "performing well" is 30, but it doesn't even manage to achieve that. I also think it's (in my opinion) dumb to consider 30 FPS as performing well.

Far Cry games in general will consistently crash after roughly 30-45 minutes of gameplay.

Penumbra Overture consistently crashed every time I tried to go to the 3rd level of the game, and Penumbra Black Plague crashed repeatedly in the first level.

All of these are verified games

[modest oar]

BZ would be a lot scarier if the shadow leviathan was used as an ambush predator in low visibility areas that just silently came out of nowhere and attacked the player

[unkempt scroll]

Shadow Leviathan is fine.

No changes are required.

BZ is just as scary as OG Subnautica for me.

[modest oar]

Very very unpopular opinion, almost a hot take

[unkempt scroll]

Idc if its unpopular. Some people find Subnautica scary. Some people dont.

I personally dont find both of games scary.

[modest oar]

Below Zero failing to be scary is like top 3 biggest complaint about the game.

BZ only has 1 scary fish, not including void chelicerates, and the way that 1 and only scary fish is used, it's used in a way that makes it irritating instead of scary.

BZ went for a more claustrophobic feel, while Subnautica provoked actual sea-based phobias with scary looking biomes and creatures.

Even the non-leviathans manage to be scary.

Meanwhile, BZ's fish barely manage to be scary at all, and we have silly shrimpy boy over here that I kinda wanna mount like a horse and ride around the ocean with.

The devs also stated they deliberately didn't want the game to be so scary, they wanted to focus on making it beautiful instead.

[unkempt scroll]

Bruh.

I find Shrimp is more scary and intimidating than reaper could ever be.

[remote geyser]

Fear is subjective

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[unkempt scroll]

Yeah. I dont think complaints about BZ being less scary than original are valid tbh.

You cant blame non-horror game for being not scary.

[modest oar]

I don't understand how someone can think a chelicerate is scary, even if fear may be subjective.

Bro might just have a shrimp phobia

[unkempt scroll]

Even OG Subnautica itself is not really a horror game. Some people just found some instances of it scary for some reason and thats about it.

[unkempt scroll]

I am not afraid of Shrimps but I do find them more scary and intimidating than reapers.

[remote geyser]

Remember that creature from stranger things with the open mouth?

[modest oar]

I never watched stranger things

[unkempt scroll]

Watch.

[modest oar]

No

[vast idol]

Funny scary movie

[unkempt scroll]

Bruh why

[modest oar]

I do not watch movies.

[unkempt scroll]

Then start or smth.

[modest oar]

My point you failed to get is that I don't like them.

[remote geyser]

This thing, if anyone was scared of that they'll be very scared of a chelicerate

[modest oar]

I don't even like tv.

[vast idol]

Probably because by the time you played bz, subnautica has already emptied your soul