#below-zero-chat
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Even if I put the graphics settings to low it persists
I have to either exit to menu and re enter, cycle through the graphics, or pause and wait and it sometimes fixes itself
i just started and its really the one issue i have
like itll be fine and then not and its kinda immersion breaking tbh
Can anyone help me, my Subnotica game is stuck on the warning screen and isn’t loading, does anyone have a solution
Pls personal dm me if you know anything
Got any mods installed?
yooooooooooooo i found a time capsule with nickel
Wrong chat.
woops
Why do i have shadow leviathan badge on steam but i didnt met the shadow leviathan
This is caused by an outdated Qmodloader. Delete the folder bepinex, or update Qmod.
Alternatively by the Legacy branch on steam, do tell me if that's the case. There's a solution
Or maybe dont pirate game?
not a lot points to that
Pentium Gold on plain Legacy will have this outcome. And on main branch it won't start at all
I always suspect pirate versions if it's called 'Subnotica'
Huh? Why? Isn’t this how the game is called?
I don't think you should be suspicious just because someone misspelled the name.
You should always be suspicious.
You should always be sus
sus
subNOTica -- nope, not sus at all -- ?
Umm… yeah? Why are you keep saying the name of a game?
It's Subnautica --
Oh yeah. I know. Stop saying it already. We know how the game is called.
@unkempt scroll per the other chat definitely the 🦐
I liked the 🦐
My opinion is I just wish there was more, like in BZ but Sub is still there better game
As do I but… ^
Same.
why is this still glowing even tho i scanned the ||artifact|| and ||talked with AL-AN||
minor bug. you turned it off, so all good
i mean the yellow +
I honestly think it's intentional since you can get two signals for the ||Jellyshroom Caves Degasi Base|| in the first game.
Seems like the game is really wanting us to go there, hmm?
Guys, I'm a newbie. Is there only one big fish like ghost leviathan or how many like reaper?
many.
but you won't meet them all probably.
do you think i couldve scanned the artifact without swimming?
like, you need to swim through the exact place the beacon is set so the yellow dot dissapears
ok ill try
For whatever reason, the big dangerous fishies on 4546B make a lot of noise when they're near, so you'll at least have some warning
IRL predators try to sneak up on their next meal, so this is unexpected
pda says 🦐 screams to stun prey. but irl predators don't do it much, not the marine guys at least. orcas stun prey by slamming their tail into it.
i'm pretty sure big bois in subnautica scream because t-rex in jurassic park screams - to be cool.
Echolocation (active sonar), i think.
This is a game about an alien ocean with the fish that's a reference to Pengu.
Picture of my base.
I love it! The place is nice as well!
Where would y’all recommend building a base? I’m planning to expand a lot. (Reply ping me pls)
Depends on what you'd like from a base location. Are looking for resources, just for looks, or a bit of both?
I can grind a bit more for resources if necessary, I just want looks mostly.
Personally I like deep sea bases, but I think it’s just whatever biome you like the best.
||Then I recommend the Tree Spires or the Lilypad Islands. If you want a cave base, then I recommend the Deep Lilypad Caves. On the upper section of the Tree Spires, there are two Chelicerates while the lower section has none. The Lilypad Islands have a few Squidsharks but there are areas where they lack a presence in. The upper chamber of the Deep Lilypad Caves is, for the most part, very peaceful and the only hostile fauna there are a few Spikey Traps. The lower chamber adds a single Squidshark to the mix.||
Also note that you can build on top of the Lilypads.
Awesome thanks
How do I ||activate the portal in the Phi Robotics Center||?
You activate it from the other end, which is located in ||arctic spires, on the other side of the bridge||
a view from my base
Which one? Yes.
I’m hoping this gets steam deck verified soon iv been playing it on there with its playable status but it seems to make the steam deck quite hot
Do you think the temperature is something they check in order to be verified?
Dunno but it’s my only issue that’s made me stop playing it because the steam deck gets quite hot and the fan gets super loud. I did have a steam deck shutdown once because of it but it’s only been the once
Iv read online that if the steam deck gets super hot it drains the battery quicker or something along these lines
more power draw from more GPU work does get hotter yes
if steam deck has the "FPS cap" setting, that can lower heat a lot
Might be a PC thing
Aye when I used to play it on the pc in the early days it did the same thing till updates later it got luke warm but wasn’t an issue to worry about. I know subnautica gets warm on the steam deck but nowhere near what below zero gets to
I’ll just check that
if FPS cap is missing, Vsync does the same but always to the screen refresh rate. 60? I don't know
On the menu screen it’s luke warm and yes it does have the FPS slider
cool. BZ is playable down to about 30, and will load the GPU less at that speed
try 40, see how that runs
now, if it was doing 40FPS already, nothing changes
Loading screen it gets slightly warmer, I game it’s hot at 100 on the FPS slider
FPS cap will never increase FPS or heat. But it can lower them
Will quit and lower it see what changes
Graphics quality also affects power draw + heat
Heat will always follow power draw
At 40 on the slider after swimming around for a few minutes it’s fluctuating from warm to hot. Played a bit longer and the snow storm took it to ouch running around on land
Still howling though
When I got frozen by that underwater creature it spiked whilst I was frozen then died down a little
It seems to fluctuate how hot it gets depending on the biome, weather conditions or what happens to your character like getting frozen for example
Construction simulator goes to ouch from launch but below zero is nowhere near that on launch
Goes to ouch and stays there the entire time below zero fluctuates and dosnt do that. Iv herd optimisation can affect this
Whatever happened to ||Danielle||? The Subnautica wikia says that ||she is alive|| but doesn't go into detail and given that ||the only other human we meet in person is Marguerite||, atleast from where I am in the story as of right now, I have my doubts.
After the ||accident where 2 died, and someone also blew up a base, Alterra closed operations and went home||
I've always wondered why an operation like they had going there would have just one security guy
i think it's because it's a secret only select number of scientists and management know about. and also alterra undervalues and mistreats lower-ranking workers (miners). parvan was the guy that got along with that group of researchers so he was assigned.
Who is Danielle
Explore mountains now?
Yes or No?
mountains?
What if, the game allow us to wander on lands outside the map and then there a 3x size of ||ice worms|| comes to kill us. because I manage to go outside somewhere from ||Arctic spires|| long lone land that was.
It all just a guess. The game left us in questions more than answers. I wish there are more to alterra and their missions.
how can i get to this ||alien emergency signal?||
it's like 200 meters down or something but i cant find a way to it
and i've found this
||2 alien light beacons or something||
oh i think these ||alien beacons|| lead to the right place
yes, the blinky ones
plenty of oxygen plants
yeah however i found oxygen mask near which i might make
ah rebreather, good
i'll probably search around here a bit, switch my battery in sea glide and come here again
yea
anything useful to scan i might find there?
well except for that building platform and sea truck fragments
outside in the canyon, at 120m, large o2 and builder tool
by a little building
real deep: new ores and truck modules
can this shark shut up and leave my poor sea truck alone😭 😭 😭
you mean this?
no. 120m
I think it's to the west from here
The small moon is always north. And the volcano
the wtf moon?
the smaller of the 2 moons
can i find sea truck modules there?
oh deeper
duh i need diamonds to make this upgrade for sea truck
yep. Maybe dip down just below 300m quickly for a couple diamonds. Right in this canyon
But come back later
Bite him back
Save game btw. Often.
i do
im done with this guy, how can i kill him
oh and can he kill me?
truck bumps, knife. Yes of course he can, but I don't think in one hit
I am shortening your game with all this help, so be aware. Also I need to make food
who would've thought diamonds were below 200 meters
like it's expectable for me that the deeper you go, the better resources you get
my sea truck was at 100% repair and now it's 43 bc that god damn shark
aight i have rebreather and repaired my sea truck
and i hope i can make this upgrades now
i have 5 hours in game and i already have ||ion cube which i found on this island where delta thing is||
aight with this upgrade i can now safely go 300 meters deep i guess
Do we have any info on the next game?
it has water
What kind
water
I mean what game engine will the game be on
Your perimeter defense isn't on cooldown. So use it, exit and repair immediately.
Then re-enter and go away.
UE5 probably
ue5 is confirmed iirc
is there a multiplayer mod for below zero?
not a working one. There is a project
can someone help me with this please
idk what it is
ill be fine, then itll drop to like 20 fps, then ill be ok after a few minutes
its an annoying cycle
get unstuck
is there like
a help channel or anything
cause no one answers in here
what specs?
what temperatures does it get to while playing?
check with hwinfo if you can, task manager isn't that accurate.
gpu? or cpu
both
never used it before
one sec; trying to find temps
click the sensors button
cpu package I'm pretty sure, and that's definitely thermal throttling. what do you set your laptop on while playing?
idk
like
how would one check
pick your laptop up
look at what you had it set on
oh lol
i thought you meant what is the thermal throttling limit set at
its on a table
see if you can lift it up off the table a bit so more air can get under it. that should help with temps some, but otherwise idk what to suggest.
The laptop fan? 
the ceiling fan 
this is
the wildest setup ever
that's not gonna do anything
my 2k curved monitor is being raised on a cardboard box
and my gaming laptop is being raised on an empty moto phone box and a stack of Quiddler TM cards
Just one side, or is it still fully sitting on it?
The phone box raises one side and the cards raise the other
ah, so still letting air under the laptop (unless one of them still covers the vent).
Does anyone have any idea.
yeah, not sure what to say other than you've got a crappy laptop
Mayhaps?
Idk lol, it runs other games fine
if you're up for it and if it's possible on that laptop, you could try undervolting it to see if that lowers the temps enough.
Except for satisfactory
I couldn't tell you how to do it, though.
which other games?
I've thought about it, and unsure if I want to
I have the same issue with satisfactory
That's about it I think
Actually, not quite the same issue, in satisfactory it'll randomly start lagging and stay lagging
Though I don't play super intensive games
Maybe lol
in summary, blame it on the crappy laptop unless you're up for undervolting.
The only other intensive game I really play is modded mc which it runs with like no problem
But that's not that bad
This is the laptop
Rip
I have heard alienwares have bad temps
At least I have an answer now, thank you so much
their desktops are likely worse, but only because laptops all have bad temps so the comparison isn't as bad.
Rip
That does make sense though, a desktop would naturally be better
I mean
Wait that's the opposite of what you're saying lol
But you know what I mean
except their desktops are still throttling if you give them a load iirc
Maybe I'll look into undervolting
crappy coolers and almost no airflow
alienware L
delL
New here to Discord. Question - how can a would-be writer get an audience here with UWE developers?
I'm back
I dunno never done it to specific even for me a Tumblr user
Ight ima see what pukicho posted
how to unlock that build thing
u need to find a broken one.
in twisty bridges, delta or zero outposts
subnautica sounds giving me brain damage
i've found this ||alien portal or something where that alien signal was||
nah man this is some kind of trap for sure
i ain't going in there💀
this doesn't look friendly
Friendly or not, it is necessary to progress the story.
well i do guess i have to go in there to progress but i hope this is not some kind of trap
Also, I think it's better for you to go there early.
If you go there late, you'll miss a bit.
well, i do have 5h in game
i guess i'll go there
what about my sea truck? i can not take it with me?
||ofc jumpscare, i didnt expect a god damn aliens to start talking||
are you where he ||asks for storage?||
is it still not possible putting own mp3 music to play inside game ?
it is on PC
put real, actual mp3s in Music\Unknown worlds\Subnautica
windows music folder
what does it mean real actual ??
not renamed weird files
they type bar said "MP3 Format Sound", legit can play with windows default player or VLC or even smartphone
vlc will play Anything though
yeah i know, smartphone too
Just try. Don't even need to restart BZ
meatie meant that people think they'll have a mp3 just by renaming the extension of another sound format.
Which isn't true.
is there any software i can test it ?
yes, seen that often. "look at mee, I can convert to mp3 in explorer"
yes, Below Zero
As said, just place them in the folder and if they're really mp3(s) they'll work.
hahah, ok i'll look into it now
||he's in my head, transfer complete||
you let a sus alien touch your brain?
i want him out
yes, fine. That's a late game thing though
can this weird mf, in the same canyon the alien thing is, kill me?
hm?
i just misplaced the coma
oh you mean "mf" , sorry then
i'd like to go there as i see a lot of sea truck fabricator module components
yes, go there
but the guy
and it is over 300m deep so my sea truck can't go below that
Completed Subnautica yesterday, time to play below Zero 
Have fun!
from what i know i can say, the deeper you go, the better you find
and it gets more dangerous i guess
craft better o2 „bottles” ||sorry i am not running the game in english so i dont know some english names||
find sea glide components so you move around faster
Yes. Definitely. Absolutely.
The Data box for its blueprint is towards the bottom of the Twisty Bridges at around 200m
You'll know the tech site where it's located when you see it.
The biome where you got the High Capacity Tank blueprint.
thats absolutely enough to go deep down
near the island
Delta. it's south. North is volcano and the small moon
Why there? It's central to the map
in this game do I have to wait for events to happen so I can move on with the story or do I have to trigger events to move on with the story (if that makes sense)
Just keep exploring yk, and the storyline will come to u
Just keep going to beacons that pop up
Like the new ones
yes
btw, walk up there. ignore any grumpy old recordings
yes
she's harmless
on the hill? no. If you see a map, scan it
the other map in the game is way west in another base
We eatin good tonight
It's beautiful!
its behaving itself on the steam deck and not getting warm untill a blizzard or damgerous storm happens then it goes to hot same with if i encounter any large cretures such as the leviathan or other large sized creatures in the ocean or on land like the worm
Anyone know if the ice worm ever actually attacks the player
do you mean the one that drills under the ice and then jumps out? bc yes it does
The ice worm can yeah.
It never attacks me though, it just comes out the ice and goes back under
then you are either out of their range or lucky
anyway be careful, they can attack and kill
I got really lucky when I was having to go through a can of worms without a cold suit bc of speedrunning and I was super close to turning into a popsicle.
Might have been because of my prawn suit but idk if that changes anything
you can just use a prawnsuit to walk all the way
it does cost a lot of energy but keeps you warm
and if you are patient and have the termal upgrade you can recharge it a bit
not sure anymore if that stops them from attacking you completly
Prawn can't fit through a confined space shortcut needed for speedrun.
But it is a good alternative to cold suit.
Seatruck: || Cyclops lite edition ||
Prawn suit: Og stats
|| Snowfox: Seamoth land edition ||
Seatruck with all the modules is so useful but sucks cus it’s so slow and way too long to fit anywhere
i actually hated the ||snowfox||, i don't remember why but i instantly stored it in a locker after a testdrive and then never touched it again
seatruck was the ||not-so-good-cyclops||, can agree with that
Honestly I only just used the seatruck and prawn dock.
If the || snowfox || could go in water too I bet a lot would of liked it more
All right this might sound like a dumb question but I'm new to the whole subnautica below zero experience I'm getting the hang of it but I need to know how a nuclear reactor works I'm afraid that it might blow up
So I don't want to do something wrong because again I'm scared of it blowing up and destroying half of my base
build it
place nuclear rods in it
VRRMVRRM noises intensfy
profit
it won't. the suspense is broken.
Oh okay cool like I said I know bit of a dumb question but never played this game before I've watched other people play it but none of them have ever built a nuclear reactor
you put in up to 4 rods, they will produce a ton of energy and fast. you cannot take them out until they are depleted (became grey). you can decunstruct the reactor at any point but all rods inside it will be lost. when the rod is depleted, it's useless. regular trash can won't destroy it, so u need a nuclear trash can (but u can store them too if u want)
Oh okay cool so definitely 10 times better than the buyer reactor that I have
But I assume it takes forever for the rods to be depleted so hopefully I won't have to make too many
i abuse water filtration stations, i wasted like 5 already
i love nuclear reactors
in both BZ and normal SN i had a big room with 4 completly filled nuclear reactors
Damn I feel poor I only have one LOL
i need to repost my thing again for the 10th time to show off
You guys weren't kidding this thing does give you a lot of power and quick didn't have enough for a fourth rod unfortunately
How stable is that mod, Livid?
I need help again how do I get the nuclear waste bin I thought I would have gotten it when I unlocked the nuclear reactor but I didn't
everything is running well tbf
vehicles, creatures, and story currently unsynced
hes currently working on vehicle syncing, seen some clips of it and its going well
Gotcha
it's a snowfox, why bother?
the vehicl
i just drove into a massive area with no nearby caves and i didnt brng any heat or cold suit and i was using it for heat
i dont have it lol
Man just answer his question LJ lol
i reloaded my save but i got a clip of it falling
well I don't have an answer
i can invite you to the server if you want
i checked the area nearby and i found out the only way to get it back was to also clip through the floor
If it fell through the floor then no, there isn't a way to get it without using console commands.
its currently in closed alpha though.
aw man
Nah I'm good, was just curious. Thanks though.
its being developed by 1 guy suprisngly
he gonna have a fun time syncing creatures fr
do hostile entities spawn in the world edge??
also is the world edge and void the same
or seperate areas
Just live for a while it’ll go away
you need to swim through the exact point it's at. if you got signal after you already visited it, u need to do it again.
Also is there a place where I can post photos of my base because I'm kind of proud of how it looks I mean it's not finished but all the essentials are there
We have #🏠awesome-bases 😄
Oh lol yeah I'm new to the server still trying to figure out what channels are for what
My unmotivated bum giving up after not even finishing decorating a room
I am just so bewildered by my reversed bumpers bug I just reported
just cause like
my controller and the game works just as great as it did before tonight otherwise
literally everything else on the controller does what it should. It's just the bumpers
hopefully the devs fix it
why cant i place light sticks on foundations
Idk but it’s a bit annoying
My first and last experience with snowfox is also like this. I hated it, the much time i put into crafting it the faster it gets destroyed. If it can hower over water it would be fun, then I would love driving it.
I don't say Snowfox is a Seamoth land edition. Instead it's Seaglide land edition. Cause it's battery depletes faster, and it's pickable.
is below zero as good as subnautica? im just asking because im thinking about buying it
imo it isnt as scary as subnautica but its still really fun and pretty close in how good it is to subnautica
Imo not rlly, but it’s a rlly fun game regardless
yeh, can only agree with that, would be a lot of fun
Yeh, also if the game allows us to change it's battery midair, no damage bar, and while piloting hypothermia still a thing. Then it would be straight counterpart to seaglide, just on land. But it's tries to be half seaglide half seamoth thing and turns out to be non of it.
The total charge of all my ion cubes combined is 11,100,000
Interesting
I have a question
I have a differend disc for below zero on my ps4 because its rented from library and im probs getting one for myself someday so will my progress be saved in the ps4 or will it be totally new on the new disc?
not knowing ps4, i'd say the save likely stays
I use PS4, and sadly I don't think it will
At least in other games doesn't happen that, maybe try uploading all your progress to the cloud, and once you buy your new disc try downloading to it, I've tried that with other games and hasn't worked, so I don't think it will work for you
Anyone know where I make the snowfox?
on a snowfox pad
the circular thing
Oh ok thanks
you can scan one at phi
The pad is self powering. No base needed. Put it where you drive
I cant place it anywhere, is it supposed to go in or on the water?
land, flat. Not an ice float
How can i get creepwine seed clusters and creepwine?
Theres always symbiotes or the freezefish thingy
cut the creepvine, or swim to the seed clusters, and collect them by picking them up
you could get some clusters, plant your own
go to other kelp places?
I cant take them, and i dont have a knife because i cant get the clusters or the creepwine
swim up to the yellow thingys on the tall kelp, then pick up the “Creepvine Seed Clusters”
go to any kelp with red berries, take some, turn around, go home, craft a knife
yes
It doesnt let me
then go to place without simbiotes and freeze fish, collect berries there
Bro theyre red tho
I died because of a sea monkey...
they only take what you hold. Also they stop taking soon
I did the same thing: started game on a library disk and later bought the game on disk. Could continue the same save (and yes, ps4)
I think you can also check your ps4 storage and see what games have save files stored in the system hard drive (or extended save space usb drive)
I hope future and or thios subnautica becomes open more to modding
like new buildables or steam workshop implement
its a singleplayer game so why not
Subnautica is a very great game in my opinion, alot to research and adventure
But its sometimes distressing
i built 30 I compartments just to connect my kelp forest base to the purple vents. what do yall think about that
I think that's a lot of running
it took me 5 hours
back to back getting titanium for my bulkhead and the compartments
I like and hate sea monkeys
And i wont go to the kelp forest under the big ice chunkc thing, theres the freezefish whatever and symbiotes
oh dear. You know those are not nearly the worst creatures?
Maybe you'd be happier with custom game mode, turn creature aggression off
You can change mode mid game, but won't get more achievements
I wont, and im playing on freedom tho
I have met alot of enemy creatures in the game
But mostly in normal subnautica
Just got the “proceed with caution. A leviathan class creature is near”, wish me luck
i used to hate them but yesterday they brought me salt and i needed that so i love them now
i never got that whenever i got near a chelicerate nor glow whale or ventgarden
does it only happen with shadow leviathan
those things that freeze u by shooting you are called brinewings
they are like pengwings but freeze you idk if they are defensive or hostile tho
They seem hostile
lemme check the wiki rq
Nearly died but I made it
Like pengwings?? Bro that creature didnt look anything like pengwings
Whatthat
Yeah I think it does
its “aggressive” but dont say hostile
well it has wing in the name so im assuming
oh alr
also funny thing yesterday i kept zapping a chelicerate until it let me scan it
took about 5 zaps
Doesnt look anything like a pengwing
i thing its supposed to be a penguin tho
Its attitude is aggressive
ye it is
if frozen, you can infact break free. dont just lie there and die
i spam click
i wish ventgardens were bigger so building a base would be easier
I didnt know what to do when it attacked me
I just waited for it to unfreeze
where u guys recommend getting seatruck modules i mainly search the purple vents
they aren't random, they are hand placed. Deep twisty has two. Purple vents, lilypads, that should cover them all
ok
i mainly dont want to encounter the shadow leviathan because when i think im safe it clips through a wall and demolishes my seatruck or when i perimeter defense it my game lags and it keeps attacking my seatruck
does bz have a stasis rifle??
Well two types. But the amount of each kind in say, deep twisty, isn’t set. I remember asking about this. Because sometimes you will find more storage module fragments than fabricator module fragments or vice versa
One module you won’t find fragments for, you have to unlock a different way
No. It was cut for being too overpowered.
Can someone help me out. I was watching jackcepticeye do his playthrough of the early access and he saw the sea emperors like way out in the distance are they still in the game to this day or did they get taken out?
That was a very early version, they got cut after the story changed
Thats lame 😦 i would love to see the babys i helped free in my good ol sea truck lol
there's something special about subnautica below zero
it's so calming and relaxing and beautiful
reminds me of the oceans of planet earth
It's cold.
Does anyone else think that snow stalkers were originally going to be tameable? Because there is a lot of strange things suggesting this idea
Like the sowstalker's fruit?
Yes and a few other things
Preston’s delight?
Yes.
Yay 😀
it's also wet
finished below zero yesterday, and man, ||AL-AN is cool|| XD
also why is lead so difficult to find ><
I am convinced they made a specific code for lead to have a lower drop chance than any other minerals
same lolol I had a whole lot of everything but lead. Was trying to build multiple observatories around my base but stopped cuz getting lead was becoming a hassle (required for enameled glass)
bro i would come back with like one lead after a trip so long i forgot what time it is
and like everything need lead
are body caches in multiple places or all in one place
there are 3, hidden, and only one with a beacon
I used it just for the upgrades and other important things and left out the rest, still left with 1 lead and a dream
so there are more than 1 alien houses that contains the body caches?
3 body parts, 3 caches
do lead deposits even exist or was I just very unlucky with finding any?
yes. Best to use scanner room, or the hand scanner (meh. range 10m)
scan Galena
hand scanner felt more like a hand scammer XD
yep it's not great. Not entirely useless
it can be good for tight caves I guess, but can do without it too
after making all of the stuffs in order to make another, i am left with 1 lead and the item requires 2
perfectly encapsulate my first time crafting the sea truck
using all my lead to craft the mvb and then the sea truck require 3 lead
just one ways nature tests us once more
indeed
I was mean to lead in subnautica 1 cuz it wasn't that difficult to get it
here we are in the 2nd getting happy to even get 1 XD
If you got alan, and pin only a lead item, monkeys give you 50% lead.
i am wondering if i should progress the story or keep crafting and exploring
did I understand that correctly, monkeys give you items based on what you pin?
wooah
I was trying to get them to work with me for so long, thought dropping things in their nest was a way to go xD but ofc, it didn't work
maybe he was just a scientist that really likes sea monkeys
they went from being annoying to being one of the favourites
i still hate them
why xD
the only creature i respect is the rock crushers or whatever they call
so pin a diamond or lead item, and stop hating
fine
they try to mine your face though
only if you hit them
or get near
even if I was full on titanium I would still take a titanium if they offered it to me
ok, I just finished BZ yesterday, and I wanna be brutally honest here with a few thoughts (spoilers ahead)
i 'm a massive fan of the first game; it's my second favourite game, and i was heavily active in the UWE forums back in 2016/2017
however i was honestly not that excited for BZ when it was announced, nor was I active in the forums during its early access phase, but I will explain why in my concluding remarks, first lemme start with what i like about BZ
the quality of life upgrades in basebuilding are genuinely the highlight of the game (although now that is sort of undermined by the living large update for the first game, but still gotta respect the origins)
many of the biomes are pretty, the sounds are decent, the flora biodiversity is excellent
and a hot take: I actually kinda like the land parts, but I think it's because I made it entirely on foot without the snowfox (which I will get to later), which honestly increased the tension for me
but now for my negatives, starting with visuals
the game overall is way too damn bright; every time I'd go up for air I would be blinded by the surface light, so much so that I could not see my HUD at all
all of the biomes also have their ambient brightness turned up, even at night, which means that a light is basically never needed, which drastically reduces the fear factor from the first game that was considerably darker with the exception of the lost river
I also noticed two types of biomes underwater: the interesting ones are way too cramped with details in order to build a good base, and the others just straight up look unfinished and stretched out with large featureless areas of barren seabed
the biodiversity in the fauna is also lacking, in the first game many biomes had fauna specific to them, but here the brute sharks, cryptosuchids, squid sharks, glow whales etc... are just copy pasted in several biomes, which makes them feel way less unique
the volumes for the sounds are also all over the place, why are the cryptosuchids way louder than the chelicerates?
now for gameplay; I beat the game without ever even building a seatruck, so while I kinda like the idea of it basically being a fusion of the seamoth & cyclops, it just looks poorly executed
the snowfox is genuinely one of, if not the worst addition to the game by far, good luck not getting motion sickness on this joke of a vehicle with awful controls ||and worse interactions with the iceworms||
I also HATE the fact that there is no stasis rifle in the game, that combined with the fact that every single animal swims away after you hit it makes it impossible to scan the larger ones (I will lean more into this point in my conclusion)
finally for gameplay, the tension from the first game is just not there in BZ for a few reasons: the biomes are bright enough to see everything without a light, the o2 plants are too overabundant and overused so you're never fearful of losing o2 when diving deeper, ||and the borderline buggy iceworms & unavoidable shadow leviathans make you realise how harmless they actually are which desensitises the player to them||
I won't talk much about the story, so here's my main complaints; I dislike the new PDA voice, the dialogue is cringe and overly present (like, Robin frequently interrupts listening to a PDA recording if you enter a room she'll comment on), the five main characters are laughably awful and the plot is absolute nonsense
the story also makes the gameplay worse by handholding the player when it gives you maps of the areas and like 15 different beacon markers to places, instead of letting you explore at your own pace
I have two main points to state for my conclusion
So i started this saturday iirc, I have found ||Al-an and some other blueprints, I assume my goal is to find these bases but idk the different signs/logos||
I actually believe the idea for BZ was doomed for mediocrity from the very start because of a very technical problem: DLC is not capable of going through an early access phase, which was unfortunetely the plan for BZ, so the devs had to create a seperate game page for it
unfortunately, a new game with DLC-amount of content wouldn't really justify its own existence, so I feel like UWE felt forced to add more and more until there was just the bare minimum to justify it as its own game, and the devs lost a lot of passion in that process instead of sticking to the original plan of keeping it small
Those last two points are completely wrong but okay.
that was only the first point
The plan to make a DLC was dropped super early. So it shouldn't have affected the game
Correct, it didn't affect the development process at all.
well either way there was something I feel made the devs lose passion, which lead to many part of the game looking and feeling unfinished (particularly the empty biomes i mentioned above)
my second point leans more into why I hate the absence of a stasis rifle and the handholding of the player with directions (and this will be my real hot take, even though it shouldn't be)
omg i was in the crystal caves and i had no water, my sea truck was hitting every single crystal, and somehow i got back alive in multiple pieces
while I love the first game, I acknowledge that it was made for the wrong reasons (yes I am talking about what Charlie Cleveland said was his inspiration for making Subnautica in the first place, if you don't know just google it, I won't talk about it but will just comment that it's really stupid)
that idea could have easily led to a game that forces the player into doing specifically what the devs wanted, but miraculously that is not what happened with the first Subnautica, there was a massive emphasis on the player's freedom in this fantastic world
What are you talking about
||I'm talking about the third paragraph in this section https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subnautica#Development||
my point is that instead of that bleeding into the first game, it bled into the second game with the removal of the stasis rifle
lol
I essentially see that as the devs doing something that actively worsens the game for everyone because they did not agree with the actions of some of their players
removal of a minor nonvital tool did not change anything at all. Also, it's available with a cheat: item stasisrifle
the stasis rifle is not a "minor nonvital tool", it's essential in order to scan certain large and fast fauna, plus you're reaching with it being only available with cheats
idk about you, but I greatly enjoy scanning and reading about the biodiversity in both games, it's one of the things I like doing the most because I like biology
You do realise that they gave a bunch of options to murder things in both games right? They could have easily said "nothing is killable". They did not despite what they believe in. Just because they remove the stasis rifle the game is suddenly a lot worse? Like what :p
well then why remove the stasis rifle at all? you're not making any sense
Because it's their game and they felt like it was genuinely better without? That doesn't mean there are no other options to kill things if you want to. Killing is absolutely not the main focus of the game in the slightest but is still there if you want it.
Everything (minus live worm, technical reasons) is still scannable, some are quite a challenge though.
Challenge is fun
The purpose of the dead worm is scanning
I'm not talking about killing, I'm talking about scanning
See meatie's comment.
"quite a challenge" is a serious understatement, especially for the ||shadow leviathan, because of its movement patterns||
I swam above it, as its "mouth" is on the bottom. I did it
get gud (with scanning without the rifle)
In here, you will see a lot of defending of a game they love. Expect this, and be fine
but it's not just the lack of the stasis rifle, it's that combined with the fact that every single animal swims away after you hit it, in the first game there were a few whose AI's would strike back at you, so they'd stick around for much longer
I think comparing this game to the first one completely demeans it. The first one was hands down a masterpiece, but the 2nd one isn't really that bad. Its really fun in its own way. The story imo is not that good. ||I don't understand why Sam, who is the main focus of the protagonist, can be completely ignored. And how Marguerit survives years with Kharaa (maybe I missed info here). But I absolutely love that we get to know more about the Precursors and that we get in their world. Makes me hype up for Subnautica 3 incase it resumes there.||
Scanning wasn't really a problem honestly. ||Shadow Leviathan|| can be scanned by being sneaky. I died the first time cuz I went head on, the second time being a bit sneaky worked wonders, but I guess theres a little bit of luck involved
Well then stop hitting them
The removal of the stasis was a good thing. The stasis rifle turns threats into dummies. It was overpowered and was removed for this sole reason. There are still overpowered items in this game, like the perimeter defense, but the leviathans grabbing you should have be randomized to not happen all the time.
that randomisation would have been a simple solution to not desentitise the player to the dangers, i agree
but i still thouroughly disagree with the removal of the stasis rifle as a good thing, particularly if the various dangerous fauna AI's all act the same
the story is a lot worse than you say it is imho
grav torpedoes.
Your opinion is your opinion, pal.
Also, if you really want to scan creatures the easy way, just equip the Reinforced Dive Suit and have a ton of medkits on you. It's really weird that medkits just instantly gives you +50 health back.
That's not weird! If you eat a medkit in real life it'll give you +50 health as well. Silly Slicey.
I've never tried it. Tonight is going to be an interesting experience.
Tuna trying to kill Slicey lol
which parts of the medkit do i have to eat
Probably the Fiber Mesh.
To be fair, those Creepvine Samples are edible. So... if you out 2 and 2 together, you'll likely get 3 in some scenarios.
it is high in fiber. About 97%
Consume the delicate medkit cuisine
you assume the medkits are eaten, for some reason. I never assumed that
Petition for medkits to give you a little bit of food and water.
What if you absorbed it like a non collision object
It just become a chunk of you
aight screw it, here's a review video that summarises a few of my thoughts ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-AWFjBONp8|| (story complaints start at 41:35)
The story had potential, but it's feels unpolished and rushed wherever I look. Playing it feels it still in early access and will add few more story elements later on with full release. But sadly it was a full release.
It did suffer quite a bit from the pandemic
And story changing decision there too, kinda heartbreaking.
yes
when is the planned release date for subnautica 3?
i do realise that
it's just third subnautica
I heard that it is planned to release by the end of 2023
this is the first i've heard of plans for a third game, will there be an early access phase?
If it follows the trend of sn and bz, most likely, but not guaranteed.
Nothing said, but since EA has worked well, I should think so
Rumors.
False ones.
youtube
sounds false to me. too short time
EA worked amazingly well for the first game, but not so much for the second because of my points above
also call me cynical if you like, but nowadays i seriously dislike the core idea of EA
Subnautica was the first and only early access game I ever bought before full release, and I see it as a miracle of a game that survived this, as an exception of the rule among early access for other games
before playing bz i heard all the criticism and opinions. after playing bz i'm aware of its flaws. i'm also aware that most people who make long rant vids about bz are drama queens
see, in the early days, early access used to mean that developers would pay people to try their games before release in order to get noteriety and feedback
until one genius thought "wait a second, why are we paying ppl to play our stuff?" ; and so the double-edged sword of modern early access was born: you either got severely lucky with Subnautica, or you got severely bamboozled with We Happy Few
yeah this is veering off topic, sorry
i like putting pics like these into picture frames
then you look down
and there are my pet pinnacarids staring at me
i am now gonna start a farm
they are so cute
does that mean you have a Kevin Beacon?
(who is bacon?)
What the heck is this thing and how do I use it?
i forgor the name of the little area with the pink flower under the lilypad biome
deep lilypads, or flowering spores
flowering spores
those two are the same place
yea i dont know the name for both
i'd really like to go there but man
he almost ate me
again i almost died
i think he stuck
you gotta go there: Two truck modules, diamond, lithium
im gonna die
This actually catches fish as you drive
really wanted to kill me now he got what he deserves, though there is second one i think
free fish
im scared to go there
Save, this increases confidence. Also., dying isn't so bad in BZ
there was definitely other same guy but i dont see him
but does my inventory or backpack drop at the bottom of this cave?
and i do have some ion cubes so
yk, don't really wanna loose them
You only lose what's new since you left the truck. Yes it drops and falls
im 100% gonna die and im scared that this guy might free himself any time
So if you exit and die, you lose nothing
wait i can increase health after i take damage with this thing uhhh forgot how it was in english
and i have to go back here for my sea truck
oh yeah! med kit it was called
or, just die. No you spawn in the truck
so dying is nearly a positive thing
i'll give it a try, just need one sea truck fabricator module component to scan
you see that on screenshot or is it just generally that they are there
that is what's in deep twisty bridges
i need diamond so i guess i have to go there, wish me luck
NAH
why the hell is he here
my man hit "unstuck" button💀
he's literally like 50 meters below me
@eternal garnet can this guy kill me in one "bite"
i wouldn't call that a bite tbh
🥲
last time he did like 30 damage or something
maybe if i just change the location a little bit with sea truck
there is literally second one guarding the componenets
ik but still, going there is scary
scary is fun
exactly
are you kidding me
i got other component fragment
bruuuuuh
i have 2 modules scanned 2/3
How do I attach it?
it's possible to back up into it, but much better to use the top handle. Drive it onto the back of the truck
||alan's first reaction when he heard music was like "the hell is this?"||
also try: sleeping
Also try ||Trivalving.||
||now he told me about artifact X3||
||Classic Architect move.||
||he really wants his body||
also how do i attach sea truck modules
thank god i got some lithium in there
otherwise i wouldn't be able to make module, but still if i'll want a second one i'll have to go back there
use the top handle instead of backing up
if you mean upgrade, there's a lid, left side
no, storage module
nvm it was fabricator module
thanks
😎 ❤️
now it is so much better, can i place some things on wall?
okay thanks
where did you find that?
it might actually be very useful
sorry you can't build in it. But there's a fabricator one
cannot build in seatruck without mods.. Just get more modules to call it home.
yeah i got it
can i place posters in there?
Originally it was planned but that never saw the light of day so no.
Hell yeah!
Actually yes.
two different ways later, yes
Oh yeah. I kinda forgot that Delta Station had a Large Filtered Water.
yeah it does
i guess i'll see in future
yessir
holy, i want that big room
now put it in a bioreactor
yes/
my base is just one room with bunch of stuff and scan room
i think ill head off for tonight
i dont even have a scan room
- i am lazy
- i am lazy
is it worth going on land without this thermal suit or something
because getting heat will be a problem if there will be no weird "heat flowers"
sure. heat sources: any vehicle. Steam vents. Pepper fruits. Coffee. Caves. Water
Yk funny story, this is my second playthrough cause the first one, I got really far and then when I'm heading to sleep, I left and forgot to hit save and lost 6 hours of work. I rage quit shortly after and swear to never play it again and yet here I am
ohhh coffee, i think i can easily make that
well, that's the worst alternative really
also can i find any rooms in here?
well
and how do you make coffee in this machine?
As mentioned there’s plenty of ways to stay warm. Coffee requires a thermos so yeah it’s not really the best way
you need one thermos per coffee... this is what makes it a bit bad
Many land areas have the fevered pepper plants those help a lot. You can even grab some to plant
Insane
please do plant peppers at home. most convenient biofuel
Yeah ikr, instead of having coffee water where you eat the cup like in Subnautica lol (but it didn’t provide warmth so thermos makes sense)
Omg I have to go on land again
Last time I was there I somehow got into the deadzone with no seatruck
peppers?
Wish we could plant more of the land plants, just for decor purposes
I escaped
Fevered peppers. Blue plant, pink fruit
Yes fevered peppers
wait can you send a pic? i do not have the game in english
never seen that i think
only in the west, on land. But also below the greenhouse
where can i get on land
by looking on this map which i have in PDA
from delta, go northwest, then west, spot the radio mast. dock there
Unsure, I'm sorry I wasn't helpful
aquarium module is found on top of the grass in lilypads biome
Very good for those who play with the vegetarian diet setting on.
purple is hidden base Zero
And besides they can spawn randomly for different people
oh you mean sea truck one
yes
Dock here
you should probably put that in spoiler
can you also mark the base?
what base
pod is north, just below Zero
can i get there just by keeping close to the land?
the dock, yes. its not hidden, and has a radio mast
Here’s where you want to dock, specifically
land, and then walk west, you get a beacon for it
thank you
Took a pic to help people, just in this sort of case
Not there
the really big one? no
thank god
yes the very big
Hang on to a flare you prob. will find around here. Use it to scare someone bitey here
the funny bear
i need a flare?
indeed. Hold flare, don't throw
You’ll likely see the bridge as you approach the area where the dock is, which looks like this
Well I mean... you don't need it. It just makes getting through the area much easier.
But it’s not extended as shown
Nice bridge. Did you find that all on your own?
The first time around? I think so, I didn’t use a lot of assistance. Mostly I had to look up where to find diamonds and where to find the rebreather, those sorts of things
the cable isn't important
you are here
what the
Fair enough. The Rebreather is in a tricky location if you don't know where to search.
thanks man
I mean its data box is just there. In the middle of the Twisties.
can you like click a button for the sea truck to dock or you just leave it there?
can i scan this weird jelly thing or will it kill me
you just leave it. Never force it on land, that may get stuck
avoid the tentacles
also i think the cable is something late game alien thingy
no, it's purpose is a clue to find the dock, I think
oh okay
how do i activate the bridge
anybody want to vc?
There's a ruptured canister of Hydraulic Fluid next to the terminal. You'll want to scan it and craft a new one.
The ingredients are relatively easy to acquire.
By making the Hydraulic Fluid you scanned.
Once the new canister is inserted, you'll be able to extend and retract the bridge.
||alan seems to be happy||
can i find anything in here?
also how dangerous is the weather that pda tells you that you should seak shelter
also where is that ||phi robotic center||?
Phi is green icon
that's Phi, yes
can i scan this very big room?
I completed this game in 3 streams recently... Partly because I was so addicted 
My second stream went on for 14 hours straight, which I hope I never have to repeat
Great job, devs - though there is ONE thing that got on my nerves. Spoilers for the northwestern area of the map.
||The ice worm's hitboxes seem to be rather glitchy. The audio also doesn't play properly at times. I was trying to scan one, waiting for it to pop out of the ground and then leaving my prawn suit to go up to it. My suit was at least 10 feet away, nowhere near touching it, when the worm returned into the ground (with no sound). This destroyed the suit, along with every upgrade and everything in its storage (several ion cubes, a snowfox, etc) and I had to remake it all. Great care was put into this creature's sound design, but the mechanics left much to be desired. Maybe this is just me being annoyed at losing progress from a glitchy interaction. Shrug~||
There's a dead one northeast in the area. The live one cannot be scanned...
is it worth going there further ?
leave the beacon there
there is one already
so i can come back there
i saw a lot of silver in here
and also alien thingy
should i return to base?
or search more?
i guess i'll return
It’s animatronic. Doesn’t really have a “hitbox” per se
Could’ve reloaded save to get your prawn back
I was quite miffed to find that I couldn't scan it, and that my suit went from 100% to 0% in seconds
Sadly I hadn't saved in a while
Funnily enough, I was in that area in my first play session, without a prawn - and ||I somehow managed to sprint all the way to the Architect skin cache and back, alive, surviving off nothing but peppers and avoiding the enemies||
I go on foot, sometimes use snowfox
It was the first ||cache|| I found, and I had nothing guiding me. Even the map wasn't getting much use. I was just panic sprinting 
I even got ||pinned by a Snow Stalker|| during the escapade, and I found ||the ice worm bones, scanning them,|| but not the thing next to them that would give me the fauna entry
THAT I found later... with my second prawn suit. >w>
||I also got out of bounds and explored the top of the glacier
||
and they tend to hit twice - brust out, do 25%, then swing around for another 25%
Uk, your opinion is awfully similar to the one that the YouTuber ugly fish uses, with all the same points? No offense but it sounds more like someone else’s opinion rather than your own, unless u are him 😉.
Not that it’s rlly a problem ofc
Every adult I’ve seen survives on coffee, so it actually is necessary lol just what I’ve seen
Not when the coffee is made of salt water!
Hmmm maybe
Sup.
dirty bean watrer>
mmm..
I’d really love to see Cherlice or however it was called, but in a safe way
camera drones?
I do have one
But i’d rather like to see it in person because by drone it won’t be scary at all when i’m sitting safe in my sea truck or base far away
only a tone of medkits makes it safe then
Observatory?
I just began playing Subnautica below zero and i am playing it on hard-core difficulty first Play through with the only experience being playing the first game am i insane? 😂
no I would say that below zero is a easy game.
Hey i have a question is anyone else having problems with the PDA not playing the voice logs you ether pick up around the world or the ones you already have it won’t play the voices so i just have to read them i don’t really mind but i do prefer to listen to them instead idk if this is a common bug or not i’m playing on the ps5.
could some one dm me and watch my live stream on twitch one time and help me out with this game
im going to restart cause i left on my other world cause i was getting eaten by a shadow leviathon
leviathan
dm me please if someone wants to chill and maybe give me a few tips
Are glow whales good bioreactor fuel?
you monster
That does not answer my question.
Nothing that takes more than one slot is a good bioreactor fuel.
The glow whales give you 52.5 energy per slot.
One arctic peeper is 350.
The kelp root pustule is 700 but not renewable.
Alright. I guess arctic peepers will live for a bit longer.
Kinda wanted to replace them all with glow whales.
I just said that is very inefficient.
From the plant-side, according to the list, small marble melons are the next best option with 280 per slot, also preston fruits are good too and easy to grow next to the reactor.
How do you even get the small marble melon?
You can't grow them so forget about it.
Yes. How did ||Dehasi|| crew grow them anyway?
They might have had another planter, for example. I would have expected that the wall planter gives small marble melons and the growbed big ones. But thats wrong, you always get the big marble melon. So preston fruit it is then.
Oh yes
Jukebox is such a good addition to the game. I love hearing the faint beats underwater as you approach the base, a nice welcome
hope it stays in the future Subanutica games
And on PC you can add your own tracks.
yeeep!
I only used it to play JukeBox one when reading PDA logs.
I had it going 24/7 xD
Everything else just too intense to chill. And I dont want to miss out on BZ soundtrack.
I didn't stay on the base for too long so didn't have the problem
Oh no. I mean BZ OST is playing when you do stuff outside your base too.
It wont if you use JukeBox though.
So I just never used it.
ah, I didn't get it for outside stuffs. As you said, BZ soundtrack is good and didn't wanna miss out on it
- would have removed some horror vibes. Imagine going around ||Shadow Leviathan|| (or others) with the beeats
hey can anyone help me with bz
i have to restart and i havent played in a year alost
almost
You can ask here and you will get answers

alsp what should the first thing i do when i get in the game
either you follow the path straight ahead or you turn left and take the upper path. Always continue north
im not sure how to start
First things are to craft the basic tools and equipments and then explore further and further around your drop pod
You have to build the scanner and then scan the fragments scattered around your drop pod. You need three scans
Imagine getting attacked by shadow leviathan when JukeBox one is playing lmao.
