below-zero-chat

[crude ember]

are you on your phone

[short thicket]

no

[crude ember]

damn idk

[uneven canyon]

hold down shift while pressing backslash

its above rshift and below backspace

[crimson echo]

H

l

[short thicket]

its doing that: '

[storm imp]

||pipes||

top right, just below backspace

[fickle patrol]

the last thing anyone wants to see in their scanner room

[sour fossil]

Right

Could I kill the ||shadow leviathan|| with a prawn suit with a normal claw and a drill arm?

[crimson echo]

are there shadow leviathans in bz?

also how do i get there?

[sour fossil]

no they are late game

[west mountain]

Probabely but seatruck is much easier and more effective.

[sour fossil]

ok

[sour fossil]

I forgot

And how did you get 4 seatruck modules and you didn't go there?

[worldly condor]

Go to twisty bridges

[broken badge]

Find the flashing green lights to guide you

[worldly condor]

It’ll be easy to get there then

Just wander around the 200 meter mark

[sour fossil]

yea

[crimson echo]

I have been looking from wiki on where the fragments are and getting resources alot

[crimson echo]

deep twisty?

[sour fossil]

yes

[worldly condor]

No just twisty

Just around 200 meters no lower

[sour fossil]

Yea there

[crimson echo]

oh this is this place

uhhh i found this place like when i started the game

[sour fossil]

yes

bro

[crimson echo]

yeah ive been here before

[sour fossil]

ok i know about that from early access 2020

[crimson echo]

what?

so what do i do next in the story

ive got 2/3 body parts

of alan

brb

[sour fossil]

aaaaaaa

get

the 3rd body part

[west mountain]

Did you explore glacial basin and found phi excavation site? Did you visit all Alterra bases?

[sour fossil]

I have a question are there minable chunks of lead?

[west mountain]

No

[sour fossil]

Ok

[crimson echo]

where

[sour fossil]

idk

[west mountain]

Which ones you have?

[sour fossil]

cuz i am not that far in the game

[crimson echo]

the one from after the bridge

and another one

[west mountain]

So I guess you are missing the ||organs|| right?

[crimson echo]

i think so

[west mountain]

Then you have to go to ||cristal cavern|| now. But did you do all the tasks I asked you above already

[crimson echo]

i was there once, it wasnt quite comfortable, a leviathan confronted me when i was leaving ||crysal cavern||

[crimson echo]

i havent been to margaret's base and probably some alterra bases

[west mountain]

Maidas seabase? Or the one on land?

[crimson echo]

both

[west mountain]

Oh, then you are missing a huge part of the story. So if you dont want to go to cristal cavern, then you could persue that storyline first.

[crimson echo]

where r they

[west mountain]

Maidas base is at the pilots last known position, down in Lilypad crevices

[crimson echo]

i have been searching that area for margaret 💀

[sour fossil]

I think I can help you with tat

[west mountain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlyVEmOvBEc

[crimson echo]

me?

[sour fossil]

Yea

I found it instantly

[crimson echo]

do you have the steam version

[sour fossil]

I have epic version

[crimson echo]

why epic

i only use epic for free games

and huge discounts

[sour fossil]

I have it from a few years ago so you know

ok

[crimson echo]

was it free?

[sour fossil]

no beta or early access

[crimson echo]

and here i am

[sour fossil]

look for a crack in the ground

ok go down

and watch out you can enter he crystal caverns

if you get lost and the base is a little to 200 m from the signal

[crimson echo]

this terrain is bad or i suck at driving

[sour fossil]

aaaa no you suck driving and terrain is bad

[crimson echo]

how deep is the base

[sour fossil]

150 ish

[west mountain]

360

[crimson echo]

360?

[crimson echo]

[sour fossil]

o

srry my bad

[crimson echo]

what

[west mountain]

Why you don't follow the video link I sent you. Just watch it and then follow it.

[sour fossil]

Can i send you a video of where it is?

I made it a second ago

[crimson echo]

yes

isnt that a leviathan?

[sour fossil]

no that is an electric shark

where can i find most lithium?

[west mountain]

Purple vents, thermal spires, tree spires and cristal cavern

[sour fossil]

ok

how many leviathans are in the game(dead zone included)?

[storm imp]

infinite

[sour fossil]

no like species

[storm imp]

I think 4

[sour fossil]

not 3?

[west mountain]

Chelicarate, Ghost Chelicarate, Shadow Leviathan and Ice worm, where as the two Chelicarate are the same PDA entry, same scan

[sour fossil]

oooo i forgot the ice worm

thnx

[storm imp]

ah then 5 - ventgarden too

[sour fossil]

k

[west mountain]

Well, hostile leviathan, then you have glow whale and vent garden

[storm imp]

....I think the pda technically considers the squidshark a leviathan too but it's really not

[west mountain]

Endless discussion

[storm imp]

yep

canon it is, realistically it's not

[sour fossil]

yea

[broken badge]

It’s basically an error I believe in the pda entry
It’s not a leviathan

[storm imp]

huh

[broken badge]

Or maybe they changed it during development

Like in early access

[sour fossil]

The Chelicarate just attacked my prawn suit i hope he felt pain from my drill and my claw

Did anyone ever scan a crash fish?

[west mountain]

Crash fish, sure

[sour fossil]

ok

[crimson echo]

what are those lights?

[sour fossil]

idk

what did you find?

Should i craft a flashlight or use the seaglide's flashlight?

[crimson echo]

seaglide

[west mountain]

Flashlight has a wider beam and a nicer colour of light. Ideal when searching land bases and so.

[carmine bobcat]

Is it just me or the batteries are dog in below zero

They last a whole 5 minutes

[sour fossil]

Yea just for you

[west mountain]

In the thumber yes.

[sour fossil]

Is just me or am i the only one that kills anything in sight with the prawn suit?

[carmine bobcat]

Also can i steal that womens prawn suit?

[crimson echo]

no

[sour fossil]

No

[west mountain]

No, the seatruck also kills everything that hits its windscreen (waterscreen)

[carmine bobcat]

Bruh

[sour fossil]

No like if you have the prawn suit with you without the seatruck do you do that

[ivory charm]

flashlight

[sour fossil]

ok

[carmine bobcat]

How do i get vehical bay

[west mountain]

In dont kill anything for pleasure, only when I must 🙂

[sour fossil]

Find fragments and then craft it

[ivory charm]

no

[sour fossil]

Ok

[crimson echo]

ah hell naw

[ivory charm]

u gotta go to the ||abandoned mine|| by the island

[west mountain]

You have to scan it

[carmine bobcat]

Wait the mine i first see the woman in prawn suit

[crimson echo]

already did

[ivory charm]

that's the island u gotta go behind it

[sour fossil]

Bruh i will go after it after you said that

[ivory charm]

in the water around 150-250 meters down

[carmine bobcat]

Ok

[ivory charm]

that's also where u get ||prawn suit||

[crimson echo]

leviathan slayer

[sour fossil]

Yea 🙂

actualy monster slayer

[crimson echo]

demon slayer

[carmine bobcat]

I dont even have aero gel

[sour fossil]

yea

[crimson echo]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_Slayer:_Kimetsu_no_Yaiba

[ivory charm]

if u have 135 o2 and seatruck ur chillin

there's o2 plants

[sour fossil]

Nooooo i only have 48 battery on prawn suit

[crimson echo]

what should i do after i have done the test override module thingy in the radiotower

[carmine bobcat]

Ik but i dont have modification station 💀💀💀💀

[crimson echo]

find marg's greenhouse?

[ivory charm]

u don't need it for that

[carmine bobcat]

Wait i dont

[ivory charm]

also mod station is on that island btw

[carmine bobcat]

How to get behind island

[ivory charm]

drive around it

[sour fossil]

how do i download screnshot from pda?

[crimson echo]

i think they are in ur files

[sour fossil]

Hell nah

[ivory charm]

hear me out

[crimson echo]

no

[sour fossil]

I am dead

[crimson echo]

why

[sour fossil]

There is a Chelicarate in my way

[crimson echo]

slay it

[sour fossil]

gonna try

[crimson echo]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-impact-ruin-guard-timmy-genshin-impact-another-day-another-slay-slay-gif-25960590

[sour fossil]

first saving

[crimson echo]

oh god i almost forgor to save

[west mountain]

With seatruck and its perimeter defense it is no problem at all, zero damage

[sour fossil]

i was in a adventure with my prawn suit

Charge

Yea

[crimson echo]

tasty prawny

[sour fossil]

yea

But i would like a gigantic lobster for dinner

[sour fossil]

Run from there there are 2 shadow leviathans'

Does anyone like my new dog?

[crimson echo]

omg

[sour fossil]

yea

[crimson echo]

train it to hunt like marg

[sour fossil]

ok

[crude ember]

am i crazy have you always been able to eat creepvine seed clusters???

[sour fossil]

No

you always been able

[west mountain]

In bz yes

[crude ember]

actually

[crude ember]

ok ty

[crimson echo]

its a seed?!!?

cant you eat seeds irl?

[sour fossil]

Bro the lobster changed biomes

[crimson echo]

@sour fossil

[sour fossil]

You i am literaly in a fight

[crimson echo]

do you like my new dog?

[autumn salmon]

yes

[sour fossil]

Yes

[autumn salmon]

so wait when i distrupt the communications

[sour fossil]

Bro the Chelicarate is going to the twisted biome not kidding

[autumn salmon]

do i get anything for a reward

[crimson echo]

marg will talk to you

[autumn salmon]

alr

luckily i marked her base with a beacon

[sour fossil]

Bro it is in a creep vine biome

[crimson echo]

she will talk to you in her land base

[sour fossil]

A hello the Chelicarate is in a creepvine biome help me pls

[crude ember]

you couldnt in the first game

i just never cared to check in bz

[jolly locust]

in the earlyer updates in BZ it gave you heat

[autumn salmon]

she has a land base?

should have marked that message for spoilers ngl

[crude ember]

yeaah spoilers

[crimson echo]

sorry

[crimson echo]

who doesnt?

[crude ember]

just go past it in your seatruck and pretend it doesnt exist

[autumn salmon]

the only land i know of is delta station and the iceburgs

[crude ember]

chelicerates are kinda dumb so theyre easy to avoid

[autumn salmon]

bro really wants to eat you if hes chasing you around the whole map

[sour fossil]

It isn't in purpule vents biome andi want to kill him for my dinner

[west mountain]

West arctic is all on land. Check delta station map and you see all the land there

[sour fossil]

Does anyone like my lobster?

My creep vine lobster

I bugged the game

[autumn salmon]

bro what is a parralell processing unit

i need one to make the thing, but i dont have any blueprints for it

[sour fossil]

Do you need help getting it?

[autumn salmon]

Yeah just tell me how to get it, mark it for spoilers though so nobody sees the message and gets spoiled

[sour fossil]

Go to the ||crashed ships|| you need a ||laser cutter|| and get the fragments and craft it

ok?

[autumn salmon]

the ||big ship|| called ||mercury 7?||

[sour fossil]

yes and ||mercury 2||

to get all fragments

[autumn salmon]

chelicerate is there though

[sour fossil]

and?

[autumn salmon]

and i dont wanna die

[sour fossil]

i am fighting him for 10-30 min and not died once so just run for it

[autumn salmon]

i have to use my seatruck i guess, because it has the defence thing, also i have not unlocked lazer cutter yet, so ill unlock it

[sour fossil]

there are 2 fragments in ||mercury 7||

[autumn salmon]

im gonna go check out the ||alien artifact x3|| spot before i build that thing

[sour fossil]

k

[autumn salmon]

wait i can get in ||mercrury 7|| without a cutter?

[eternal garnet]

yes

[sour fossil]

yes but you cant get the fragments without it

[eternal garnet]

there's at least 3 that are not covered, but then you need more than one wreck

You probably do anyway

[sour fossil]

My laptop is at 80 degrees c

[eternal garnet]

try: options, general, Limit FPS. maybe 30, 40

[sour fossil]

Who wants to feast with me on this dead lobster?

[crude ember]

whats the spawn id of the ||void chelicerate||

[sour fossil]

idk

[eternal garnet]

I failed to find it

[sour fossil]

i found it and was scarry

[eternal garnet]

I meant the ID, or any method to spawn it

Although, just being in the void will spawn up to 3

[autumn salmon]

how you kill it? i dont think statis rifles are in bz

[sour fossil]

yea i just used prawn

like

[eternal garnet]

truck bumping works well

[sour fossil]

ok

i know

[eternal garnet]

But not quick. You know you aren't meant to kill it. But you can

[sour fossil]

yea

but stil

[autumn salmon]

while going to the alien artifact place, i accidentally found every fragment to unlock laser cutter and propulsion cannon

[sour fossil]

wow

I need titanium so bye bye titanium

[foggy sundial]

i want below zero😭

[eternal garnet]

if you got subnautica on steam, check out the bundle price for both

[sour fossil]

Am i he only one with below zero early access from epic?

[eternal garnet]

"deep ocean bundle"

as far as I know, there was never early access on epic

Are you sure?

[sour fossil]

i had a save file from when the seamoth was in the game and it was from 2019

[eternal garnet]

well sure, but it was on steam... or piracy

[sour fossil]

no

look on google

Introduced in early access via Steam and the Epic Games Store in January 2019, Subnautica: Below Zero was released for the Microsoft Windows, macOS, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One, Xbox Series X/S, and Nintendo Switch on May 14, 2021.

[eternal garnet]

I guess that's possible. Epic cannot do any version switching though, but that doesn't exclude EA

[next current]

😕

[eternal garnet]

on Steam, you can switch to an EA 2019 version today

[sour fossil]

ok

[eternal garnet]

or 2020, or 2021

[sour fossil]

And why will that help to change versions?

you just lose stuf

added later

[eternal garnet]

nostalgia

[sour fossil]

k

[eternal garnet]

or, play the old story!

[sour fossil]

yea

[next current]

EA7 is definitely the best version to play the old story on.

Only because EA8 and EA8.1 are riddled with bugs.

[crimson echo]

Completed subnautica bz in 14hours survival

[next current]

Yeah. Sounds about right.

[uneven canyon]

why is the seatruck so buggy

like just let me get out

[eternal garnet]

it's not. Are you using mods?

[uneven canyon]

only a map mod

[eternal garnet]

or is the hatch blocked?

[crimson echo]

Happened to me too

Save and rejoin

[eternal garnet]

you are using mods, you have the modloader altering a lot of stuff

[crimson echo]

Do you use bepinex or qmods

[uneven canyon]

q

[crimson echo]

yeah

[crimson echo]

Try my method then

[uneven canyon]

the save button was grayed out

had to revert to my last save

[eternal garnet]

would you PLEASE not blame BZ for your qmodloader bugs.

[uneven canyon]

no

[next current]

I think you should. It seems a bit unfair to the poor game.

[mint badger]

Guys i see || a giant mushroom and a Chelicerates || from around 170 m deep. Where the heck am I?

[eternal garnet]

tree spires. The mushroom is a Vent Garden. Can you get inside it? ||Unique useful plants|| inside

nice isn't it

[mint badger]

Oh

I only have seatruck depth module 1

Can I still go?

[eternal garnet]

probably

[mint badger]

Ok

[eternal garnet]

if you are nibbled on, repair immediately. Attacks have a cooldown

[mint badger]

Ok thanks

Wait a minute

How do I get inside the VentGarden?

|| I tried running into it with my seatruck but it dosent seem to work ||

[eternal garnet]

er, its waste disposal opening

[mint badger]

Ah I see

Thanks again

[surreal basin]

another bug, when robin is cold. noises of her shivering still plays when you are in water. the only way to fix the issue, is to save and reload the game.

[dapper badger]

is ther a bug with the seaglide mapping function? im looking at it and it show a tunnel going up, look ahead and the only tunnel i see is going down -.-

[eternal garnet]

I don't think so, but it doesn't see built structures

[dapper badger]

nah im stuck in some damn natural cave network and what im getting on the seaglide dosent match what in from of me at all

[eternal garnet]

you are at the dot on the line, middle

[dapper badger]

thats what im saying. it dosent match whats in front of the dot

[eternal garnet]

hm k

[dapper badger]

man i've been doing loop for over 20 min that's getting annoying as ...

[sonic cape]

just lose the map, go by trial and memory

[uneven canyon]

i love the seatruck dock so much

[dapper badger]

are there "triggers" to get the story moving? like my radio is taking her sweet time between new messages.<

[clear dock]

use prawn suit instead its easier

[past lance]

[nimble needle]

nah the prawn on land is really frustrating to use.

[clear dock]

with grapple arm it is so easy

[storm imp]

jump in the air and hold forward
bz prawn is stupid fast in the air

[nimble needle]

maybe i'm used to original game prawn on land that's really frustrating

idc i like the snowfox a lot

[storm imp]

yeah og prawn on land isn't great

bz prawn has extra jets for movement that make it really fast in the air

[surreal basin]

I do recommend the ||SnowFox|| instead of the prawn. Cause, the ||SnowFox|| has a module called ||ice worm reduction module|| very handy against ||iceworm attacks||

[nimble needle]

yeah i know. man that thing came in handy

[surreal basin]

With the prawn, you'll cause more noise and be attacked more often.

[nimble needle]

only problem i had with the ||ice worm honestly it booting you off the snowfox kinda ruined some of the tension. still a fantastic creature though||

[surreal basin]

There's ||Snowstalkers|| as well somewhere.

And ||ice worms|| can still attack

[nimble needle]

yeah occasionally out in the spires. always hated seeing them since i knew the ice worm was near then

[surreal basin]

There's a whole group of ||snowstalkers|| maybe 4-5. Use your boost on ||SnowFox|| wisely.

[nimble needle]

btw i don't need any help with BZ i beat the game like a year ago

[surreal basin]

I haven't yet I'm close though.

[nimble needle]

gotta do a replay tho it's been a while. gotta finish my replay of the first before that tho.

enjoy. it's fantastic :)

[surreal basin]

Sure thing!

Btw @nimble needle

[storm imp]

nice username

[nimble needle]

thanks

[surreal basin]

Do you know where I could find the ||tissue||

[nimble needle]

||it's in the deepest areas of the ice worm biome. i missed it on my playthough too and it's small.||

you'll know the place when you see it so just stick around there and keep your eyes peeled

[surreal basin]

Ok thanks

[nimble needle]

no problem :)

[surreal basin]

I do love the ||iceworms|| very cool in design!

[nimble needle]

yeah they're my favorite leviathan from either game. absolutely terrifying with a dope design.

[surreal basin]

I know how to scan the ||Shadow Leviathan|| easily

[nimble needle]

pray it gets stuck. lucked out on that one personally.

[eternal garnet]

wait for it to eat a snow dog. very cool

[nimble needle]

for the chelicerate i basically threw myself at it dying repeatedly until i got the scan.

[eternal garnet]

to scan the worm, find the dead one up north-east end

[wind stirrup]

call me what you want, but i dont like the voices as much in this game

also, what are 15.9% of players doing

[jolly basin]

I buy a lot of games then don’t play them

So probably that

[carmine bobcat]

Bro that thing almost killed me

[carmine bobcat]

They have a skill issue

[steel stream]

Either not playing as RamuneNeptune suggest, or they play in creative

[carmine bobcat]

lithium

[rough spire]

Ah, yes.
Very angry shrimp.

[surreal basin]

i beat below zero the ending is nuts

[rough spire]

I had the game since it had a diff storyline

[ivory charm]

man that's crazy wowa

[ivory charm]

the ending is awesome

[rocky sapphire]

question. Im building my first base and I cant seem to get the ladders to connect the two multipurpose rooms or get the water filtration to snap.

[ivory charm]

it's buggy idk

[next current]

Are there any incomplete windows or reinforcements?

[rocky sapphire]

no just a stock room with a hatch

[west mountain]

Did you ||cure the frozen leviathan||?

[surreal basin]

No

I couldn't find it

[west mountain]

So you did not beat the game. Back you go

[surreal basin]

It wasn't required to beat the game 😂

[west mountain]

Missing the main objective for your missin ks!a failure.

[surreal basin]

I saved before I did the ending so I can go back and do it if I want to lol

[west mountain]

Its your game not mine. I completed it and now Robbin has peace of mind regarding her Sam

[surreal basin]

I'll do it at some point just not now 😂

[west mountain]

Great! So sad the game let you leave without it.

[surreal basin]

Doesn't really bother me

[west mountain]

Again you play your game the way you want as long as you have fun

[surreal basin]

Yeah lol

[ivory charm]

it's not a main objective it's a side quest

[surreal basin]

Exactly! Like, I wouldn't have been able to complete the game if it was the main obj

[ivory charm]

literally

[steel stream]

Technically it's the reason you come to the planet in the first place...

[ivory charm]

technically if something isn't required to reach the end credits it counts as a side quest...

[west mountain]

The game has two parts and both are indicated in the start sequence. 1. To find out everything about your sister Sam and 2. to find a way out. Non is required to do. You are not forced to persue any of the two tasks. You do not have to find out about Sam and you do not have to leave the planet. So what does "beating the game" actually mean. Just to watch you leaving the planet does not mean you have completed all tasks and you can continue to play forever without leaving. So beating the game would mean to have completed all quests within the game and left with peace of mind that you did everything for your sister.

[vast idol]

Huh

[west mountain]

Then why did you come to the planet in the first place. Its not that you crash landed like in SN you came deliverately for a purpose. So if the only purpuse to come to 4546B was to leave then it would be a pittiful story. No, you came for a reason and that reason is the main quest for the first half and then, once completed you persue the second part of the quest and that is leaving the planet. ||AlAn|| was never part of your quest, so you can persue all task without him, no problem. Just that player got distracted so much once they go him that they forgot and switched priorities, which IMHO is very sad. So all I do is ask players that have "beaten the game" if they have persued the main task and not switched to the second one. But I am pretty much alone here with this opinion and so many players miss out the highlight of the game.

[surreal basin]

You came to 4546b to try and find out what killed sam

[upbeat bluff]

does anyone know how long it takes for a Chelicerate to respawn after you kill it?

[surreal basin]

Not to ||cure the frozen leviathan||

[surreal basin]

Idk

Probably once you leave and come back it'll regenerate

[upbeat bluff]

oh

aight

[west mountain]

Sam gives you that task in a PDA and you want to find out everything. But is just opinions, I just try players to persue as many tasks as possible wiithout missing out on the highlight. Thats all. And there is a voiceline before leaving where Robbin says that she wished she could have done more.

[surreal basin]

Avoid them as much as possible, unless you have the ||primitive defense module||

[vast idol]

Doesnt leviathans only respawn after an update?

[upbeat bluff]

wym?

[surreal basin]

Not being mean man, you're a nice guy. Honestly, this story made no sense imo. Like I understand what you're getting at. Ima look into that brb.!:)

[upbeat bluff]

after you kill it, it neveer respawns?

[vast idol]

I think so

[upbeat bluff]

oh

[vast idol]

I think they only respawn after a game update

[surreal basin]

I killed a ||SquidShark||

[upbeat bluff]

so techinally if i killed all Chelicerates in the game they go away forever? (until an update)

[vast idol]

Child's play

[vast idol]

until an update

[upbeat bluff]

wow

is subnautica the same?

[surreal basin]

And a ||shadow|| easy

[bold monolith]

You're free to make your world boring as much as you want.

[west mountain]

That is a bit of a problem as the story would be great but the player has very little knowledge and has to piece it together one by one. Also not helpful that you find the PDAs in random order which makes no sense sometimes. So its hard to put the pieces together retrospecitvely.

[upbeat bluff]

lol

[vast idol]

Probably

[upbeat bluff]

oh

didnt know that

[vast idol]

You should go ask someone else and not someone who only play bz for base building

[surreal basin]

I was into the story until I was like, wasn't this whole thing for Sam ?!

[vast idol]

Also don't get torpedo its like the num lock button on the keyboard

[bold monolith]

Also, updates don't necessary respawn them, it depends if the part of the map was touched since the previous update.

[vast idol]

I love flying at mach 8 on land by grabbling a rock

[vast idol]

I teached a || squid shark || to breathe on land

[west mountain]

Ouch!!!

[surreal basin]

where is the ||frozen Leviathan||

[west mountain]

Do you have the glacial basin map? Its where the radio tower is in frost acatia forest.

[vast idol]

tis but a scratch

[surreal basin]

is it over by the ||iceworms|| ??

[west mountain]

No glacial basin, not arctic spires. Have you been to phi robotics lab? There is map on the wall.

[surreal basin]

yes

i scanned that

[west mountain]

Excellent, that map. There is a tower by the frost acatia forest (the most beautiful land biome imho, I have a base there).

[west mountain]

And the ||antidote for the cure is where the red circle is on that map||. You need a spy penglin to get it.

[surreal basin]

gotcha

[fossil monolith]

is below zero harder than subnautica

[west mountain]

Its different, whether its harder or not depends on your experience. For someone how played SN before it is definitely not harder, because of all the knowledge you already have. But the biomes and animals are much more elaborated and beautiful than SN, IMHO.

[fossil monolith]

oh okay, when i finish subnautica i buy this one instantly ! 😄

i saw on vids bigger mobs and scarier mobs lol

[carmine bobcat]

Personally I found it harder due to specific things like how hard it was to find the horsepower upgrades

[west mountain]

That depends a bit on luck. I had players who stumbled accross important things way too early by pure luck but failed to get into the story. It is much more open on what you challenge you persue.

[bold monolith]

I think the progression in SN is much better.

[carmine bobcat]

I just miss the cyclops man

[west mountain]

Yes, thats the other problem if someone played SN before. I don't miss the cyclops because I never played SN and I think the seatruck is much better suited for BZ. In SN you have to go on a looooong journey and actually come back only to complete the ending. Where as BZ is much more forward and back to your base, so you don't really need a long range mobile base, and the map is much smaller. Also you can setup bases all over the place. Its a different style of playing.

[bold monolith]

I don't miss the Cyclops in this game and I played SN first, I don't think that's a very big concern. You just have to see the landscape to understand that the Cyclops wouldn't be very useful here.

[vast idol]

To me it's definitely easier since you are always given an objective, eg go to point A or go to X direction

[west mountain]

Well, only in the beginning, at one point the clues run out and you have to be very careful reading the PDA messages and dialogs. Important clues get lost easily. I think BZ should highlight important clues in the PDA and dialogs better to help the player pay attention to what is important. So many hints and clues get unnoticed.

[vast idol]

Yeah for example the green house, I was expecting a beacon but I had to read the message logs again to realize that she gave a direction, not a beacon

[west mountain]

Correct and also where to find the Parallel Processing Unit. Its in a PDA for Jeremaya. Yes, you stumble accross it but there was actually a suttle hint.

[vast idol]

I almost cheated and use the console lmao

[west mountain]

You can alway search the internet for clues or ask here. But its a pitty that they get unnoticed. Also you dont find PDA in the correct order as the story progresses. That makes piecing the story together quite challenging.

[digital mortar]

Good morning, fam. I have a question regarding the game. Is it okay if I paste a picture of my gameplay here?

[west mountain]

Sure, just markt it as spoiler if it reveals too much of the late game story.

[digital mortar]

Okay. I am hesitating to ask this because I might just be dumbfounded and overlooking another passageway but how do I actually get in there. Those diamonds are really itching me out 🤣

[west mountain]

You cannot go in there but there is a little buddy that can. You have to find the blueprint and craft it.

[digital mortar]

Ohh, that makes sense now. Looking forward to it then. Thanks man!

[west mountain]

You see that device on the right next to the hole. That will appear throughout the game and indicate such little cave entrances where you need that tool.

[digital mortar]

I see, thanks for the note man. Appreciate it. Just started playing this game so still figuring it out 😅

[fallow marsh]

hi, when we will have the third game? D: I know will be in the same universe but will be underwater game like the others? any news, guys? tksss

[bold monolith]

It could be a pond, you never know.

[indigo moth]

Cool

3rd subnautica confirmed

[fallow marsh]

this is cool, ask him if we have VR support :B

[sly elk]

Honey, I shrunk the survivors

[crimson echo]

what achievments am i lacking https://spr.is-such-a.pro/📸/23b45swa.png

[west mountain]

Building the snowfox and the most important one ||curing the forzen leviathan||

[crimson echo]

ig i accidentally speedrunned sbbz

how do i get || curing the forzen leviathan||

[west mountain]

Check the glacial basin map, there is spot marked with a red circle.

[crimson echo]

glacial basin maP?

[next current]

Yeah, the one in Phi Robotics.

[crimson echo]

oh yeah i have it

how do i view it

[west mountain]

In your PDA under maps

[crimson echo]

maps?

[west mountain]

Yes, maps

[next current]

Logs & Communications/Maps

[crimson echo]

oh yeah https://spr.is-such-a.pro/📸/fwp90bu2.png

is that delta island?

[west mountain]

So build the snowfox, go to the red cirle and finish the game

[eternal garnet]

that is the glacial basin. Clue inside the circle also

[west mountain]

Glacial basin behind phi robotics, see the bridge on top right.

[crimson echo]

the only good subnautica songtracks are survive, falling too deep and jukebox one

[west mountain]

Diving in too deep, Deep dive, survive, subnautic stimulus are my favorits

[crimson echo]

die peacefully start is good

[next current]

Rite of the Deep and Diving in too Deep are the two best imo.

[crimson echo]

i meant diving in too deep, not falling too deep

i wish i could install speakers in my seatruck

[west mountain]

You have the sleeper module, with jukebox

[crimson echo]

yass

[next current]

The only problem with the Sleeper Module is that it's limited to range.

[crimson echo]

wdym limited?

[next current]

Which is usually never a problem because people don't usually make long seatrucks.

[west mountain]

Agree, but when I go in the back of the seatruck then to do some crafting stuff or inside the prawn. So its OK. Having the sleeper just behind the cabin is fine, because driving takes up most of the time anyhow. But correct, the sound fades after one or two modules.

[next current]

Behind the cabin is probably the most optimal location.

[west mountain]

It is such a pitty that sleeper and docking module do not have some storage space. Just a bench under the bed or a locker on the wall, just a little bit.

[crimson echo]

what is the best fuel for bioreactor

[candid basin]

In practice, melons

Mostly due to grow patterns though, makes them insanely efficient

[west mountain]

Define BEST for you

For me, the best is the one that just growns next to the reactor and I don't have to go out to gather. That is renewable and easy to get. So from all the plants, the preston fruit is the one withthe hightes energy density. From the fishs its the arctic peeper.

[crimson echo]

https://spr.is-such-a.pro/📸/bgan2jve.png

[west mountain]

You have a bio reactor and a solar cell, 500 + 75

[crimson echo]

yes

good

[west mountain]

The fuel does not increase the power, its just how long it lasts before you have to refuel it. Root pustles have the hightes energy density. But you have to go out and collect them. Preston fruits just grow next to your reactor.

[vast idol]

Use nuclear reactr

[candid basin]

Unrelated, but is there anything other than ||the architect arm|| and some ion mining in the worm zone? Hardcore run and don't wanna be here longer than I need to :/

[crimson echo]

hmm

[west mountain]

I have but its very noisy. So when you build nuclear put it in the far corner of your base in another building far far away, because the noise is very irritating.

[vast idol]

I literally have a multi p room with storage dedicated to a reactor

[candid basin]

Or shut it behind a door, helps for meltdowns as well 😄

[crimson echo]

hahahahha https://spr.is-such-a.pro/📸/oxn7yp75.png

[west mountain]

I have 1 nuclear, 1 bio, 5 thermal plants and 10 solar = 5000

[crimson echo]

i have 2 bio, 1 solar

[candid basin]

I've never needed more than one nuclear, always been enough

[west mountain]

In one base? I have it in one base

[crimson echo]

im probably gonna make nuclear reactor

[west mountain]

Just for fun, of course 1 nuclear is more than enough and fuel to spare, 6 lockers full of rods.

[crimson echo]

little airlockhttps://spr.is-such-a.pro/📸/x3a7ltw3.jpg

[west mountain]

Just put it in a seperate room with a hatch and some tubes in between, the further away the better. Its very very noisy. And then you have to craft nuclear rods

[crimson echo]

should i make the windows of my bedroom out of glass or reinforcement

[west mountain]

Windows per definition are made of glass, yes, of course. You want to see outside. Put the reinforcements in the nuclear reactor room, there they are fine.

[crimson echo]

https://spr.is-such-a.pro/📸/8wfxya4q.jpg

replaced that reinforcement with window

[west mountain]

You dont need reinforcements on a land base, only underwater. Yes, take it away.

[crimson echo]

its partly underwater

like there are only 2 multipurpose rooms above water

and like 3-5multipurpose below

[west mountain]

I welcome you in my restaurant.

[crimson echo]

added that floor to my bedroom too

wait, can i add custom songs to bz?!

jukebox

[west mountain]

On PC yes

[crimson echo]

pog

[west mountain]

In your Music Folder\Unknown Worlds\Subnautica, just add MP3 Files in there

[fickle cosmos]

Can't wait that to brake jk

[crimson echo]

yeah

[fickle cosmos]

I added one on the void

But I'm doing something rn so I can't show photo

[next current]

Lots of office chairs and not many swivel/command chairs.

[crimson echo]

swivel chairs

[west mountain]

Have you every seen swivel chairs in a restaurant???

[next current]

Yes.

[west mountain]

Must be very rare though, so I go with the main line.

[next current]

Now. I mean like stools. But stools are counted as chairs.

[west mountain]

And the swivel chairs in BZ do not swivel, which is sad

[next current]

They can also be stairs of you'd like.

[crimson echo]

do i need to restart my game to get the mp3's i put in my music folder?

[bold monolith]

No.

[crimson echo]

so they just are there?

[bold monolith]

If you did it properly they'll appear on the jukebox yes.

[crimson echo]

Most normal speaker placementhttps://spr.is-such-a.pro/📸/bk8yj3rn.png

https://spr.is-such-a.pro/📸/g4glvav3.jpg

[storm imp]

you need some water man

[crimson echo]

true

[storm imp]

food too

[crimson echo]

what should i plant in my alien aquarium thing

[west mountain]

Spotted dockleaf, the most beautiful plant in BZ

[crimson echo]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Spotted_Dockleaf_(Below_Zero)?so=search

snowstorm https://spr.is-such-a.pro/📸/e2ip0al0.jpg

[crimson echo]

so what is the achievement called you get from there

[mild oracle]

Borg ship?

[eternal garnet]

finding the cure. But it comes when using it

[carmine bobcat]

I had a weird dream last night, so I was playing subnautica below zero in the dream and when I got to Marguerit's base in the lily pads, I heard her go about her usual dialog when approaching. Then When in the sea base, I noticed it was partially damaged and was really dirty. I then began to literally clean up the base and fix the damages before going through the door. however, once I went though the door, Preston didn't attack me and instead I heard this from marguerit: "Thanks for cleaning up my base, tell you what, there's a small satellite I have over on the table. Couldn't get it to work, maybe you'll have better luck with it. Oh! and here's something for your trouble." She then gave me the cure for the Karaa bacteria

[ivory charm]

wild

[carmine bobcat]

I know right

[west mountain]

I built one of my bases on top of hers. I prepared food for her and coffee. But so far she never cane to visit me. So sad.

[quick terrace]

love the detail in here, are you using a mod to place the diffusers on the plant shelves or is that something you can just do?

[west mountain]

Thank you so much. Its all plain vanilla bz. No mods.

[quick terrace]

interesting, I didn't know you could do that
I continually learn new things about this game 😄

[carmine bobcat]

I hear ya, crazy how I technically unlocked a new ending for bz in a dream

[ivory charm]

is it just me or did they nerf the speed boost from booster tank

because it's barely better than swimming now

[quick terrace]

I've also had dreams about BZ before I played it, which is partially why I was a little disappointed at the lack of deep, dark biomes in the game (BZ was full of them in my dreams) and is also why the Tree Spires is my favourite biome, probably because it comes closest to what I was hoping there would be

still nothing that comes remotely close to the Blood Kelp Zone though unfortunately

there were a bunch that were like the BKZ or the Bulb Zone, I also dreamed that BZ had a Lava Zone

which I really wish it did

[carmine bobcat]

yeah

[west mountain]

I find the biomes in BZ just breathtakingly beautiful. Much more elaborated and detailed than SN. And the animals more realistic. I just love it.

[ivory charm]

my favorite is the area to the left of delta because it's so colorful

[west mountain]

Purple vents?

[tacit thorn]

Realism reply:
Windows are structural weakness. You do not want potential breach to happen in a place you are sleeping in.
Gamer reply:
Whatever you fancy, only total base armor counts.
Practitionalist reply:
Add window to your bedroom/office space to facilitate better mental health. Put a bug-out room above it that can be used as lifepod in emergency.

Q: why are my seabase lights flickering so much?

[quick terrace]

my three favourite biomes are the Tree Spires, Twisty Bridges (including the deep zone) and the Deep Lilypads Cave

[west mountain]

Not enough power capacity

[ivory charm]

no the area with all the lithium

[tacit thorn]

ok, second question - where do i find how much each appliance uses and produces?

[ivory charm]

normal reply- put your reinforcements in your storage room and windows everywhere else

[quick terrace]

Purple Vents does have lots of lithium though

[ivory charm]

control room

[west mountain]

I find frost acatia forest stunningly beautiful. And with my bases in east arctic and lilypads i can watch glow whales the whole day.

[ivory charm]

oh wait yes

[tacit thorn]

Not possible - my storage is large room with partition walls and those disable building anything else on the walls

[quick terrace]

the land biomes do look pretty, although I am definitely more drawn in by deep underwater areas, especially if they're dark and ominous
which is why I like the Blood Kelp Trench from the first game so much, also the Grand Reef

[tacit thorn]

it only shows running total I think, but not the power draw. How much fabricator uses? salter machine? moonpools? power cell chargers?

[quick terrace]

the filtration machine is an absolute power sucker, I know that for sure

[eternal garnet]

any charging is easy: it costs 500 units to charge a battery of 500, from 0%

[tacit thorn]

my small base only has 2 salter machines

[west mountain]

I had problems with the new seatruxk dock. Sucked out all the power of my smaller bases

[eternal garnet]

The control rroom can show totals per room

[ivory charm]

it shows positive and negative as well as power per room

[ivory charm]

this

[west mountain]

I have a base with all four power plants nuclear, bio, thermal, solar How do they get consumed? All the same or one after the other? Do you know?

[eternal garnet]

I don't know. I noticed it's a bit odd

Probably in order, and that's build order.

[west mountain]

Hmm... i will see if i ever have to refill the bio reactor

So sad the bio reactor cannot autorefill from a nearby food source

[tacit thorn]

Ok, it shows -1.7 for my reactor+salters room, 0 draw for moonpools and sea truck docks

power status 66% is that positive gain or net loss?

[west mountain]

What are the two numbers on top of your screen

[eternal garnet]

the 2nd number is: total charge in all power generator batteries

[eternal garnet]

they all have batteries, eg. solar has a battery of 75

[west mountain]

So 66 is just the ratio of power awaulable and total power capacity

[eternal garnet]

first number is current charge of these batteries

[west mountain]

How comes you are so low. I am always at 100

What power sources do you have

[tacit thorn]

so if I don't throw anything in the bio reactor, it will always stay below 100?

[eternal garnet]

cold thermal generators, or empty bio, or dark solar

[tacit thorn]

all three of those, check

[eternal garnet]

check meaning empty, dark and cold?

[eternal garnet]

yes

[tacit thorn]

Bioreactor is empty cause I'm too lazy to put things there. using it as biomat incinerator basically. Or to enact revenge on tamed crashfish.
Solar panels are at 69m depth. It should be pitch dark here, but wiki says they should work.
Thermal plants I just put them in lava, one says 70 deg, others 60 and 50-ish, total 3 of them.

[eternal garnet]

yes solar at 69m works

[carmine bobcat]

Nice

[next current]

Nice

[bold monolith]

It depends where they are.

The depth isn't the only factor.

This thing for instance will never be charged.

[tacit thorn]

how did you manage to get it to display that info?

[bold monolith]

You just point your cursor on it.

[tacit thorn]

ok, will check in a moment then. What does my power display say now?

[bold monolith]

It says that your consumption is higher than what you produce right now.

Which isn't necessary concerning, as your total is pretty high.

[west mountain]

His 500 bioreactor is cold

[tacit thorn]

lights still flickering. should I add more thermal plants?

[bold monolith]

It won't change anything.

[tacit thorn]

??

[bold monolith]

Yeah it's counter intuitive I know.

:þ

[west mountain]

Just feed your bio reactor

[bold monolith]

Basically when your reactors are fully charged, they don't produce energy. Only one is drained.

So your input is lower.

When it's fully drained, the second reactor will be drained as well.

And both will produce an input.

So adding reactors will solve the "issue" temporary.

But it isn't a real problem.

[tacit thorn]

All hail furnace god!
[guess reference]

[bold monolith]

Also, the flickering is on your input / output ratio instead of being on your total. Which is a decision I never understood.

Because that means you could have 100k power and still see flickers.

[tacit thorn]

so, uh, if I delete the bioreactor, the flicker will stop?

[bold monolith]

Your only solution to remove them entirely is to remove what is draining your energy to be lower than something like 2. something.

I don't remember the number.

[tacit thorn]

color me confused, but now I'm roducing twice the power in green (fed the bioreactor) but my power ratio is down to 30%

[storm imp]

power ratio?

[tacit thorn]

whatever the percentage means

[storm imp]

that's the state of charge of your base

[west mountain]

Its 603 diveded by1850

[storm imp]

the total batteries in your power generators are 32% filled

[west mountain]

Its the ratio of your available capacity vs total capacity

[tacit thorn]

ah, so stored power

[west mountain]

Yes capacity.

So something was drawing a lot of power but now its recharging

[tacit thorn]

define "a lot"

2 salters, 2 moonpools, 2 truck docs, and now I fed the bioreactor + it may be daylight time now

[west mountain]

Well you just went down from 1100 to 600 in couple of minutes

Ok that might explain it.

[tacit thorn]

does moonpool/truck dock use any energy?

[west mountain]

Mostly when charging the vehicke inside. But once charged it should decrease

[tacit thorn]

does it use any extra energy for its own purposes? I'll just assume vehicle recharges from my buffered power

[west mountain]

Light probabely just very litzle. Scanner room draws power constantely

[bold monolith]

The scanner room is a special case.

Usually lights don't drain anything.

[tacit thorn]

scanner can run from single solar panel or two i think?

My thermal plants read 53/60/68.
Plus 8 solar panels should be enough for 2 water filtration machines?

[bold monolith]

One filtration machine is 0.85 energy per second.

So you have other things draining your energy.

Even so, as I explained if you have the reactors fully charged they are not necessary drained at the same time.

Imagine you have two solar panels, 75 + 75 total energy. Imagine they produce one energy per second each. Just because it's easier.

If you just placed them, they'll produce two energy per second.

When they are fully charged, they produce zero.

Now you have something draining one and a half energy per second.

[tacit thorn]

I'd assume they stay fully charged as long as I don't exceed 2 units draw?

[bold monolith]

You'll lose power.

From 150 your total will be drained to 75.

When you are at 75, the second solar panel will be drained, it will produce power as well.

So you'll stay at 75/150 as long as the thing that drains your power is working.

Even if you have in theory, two energy input per second.

If you understand this, you understand how the energy works in the game.

[tacit thorn]

does that stack in cascade? as if I have 10 solar panels, 9 of them will iddle until the preceding unit is drained?

is there a way to disable the lights flickering? game setting? mods?

[bold monolith]

Yes.

I don't know if there is a mod, but it's a hard value in the game's code.

Also, if that was not enough, the order is the build order but if you save and reload it isn't necessary the same.

One time you'll have the nuclear reactor that is drained first, the other time you bioreactor, etc.

[tacit thorn]

random gameplay remark:
How many people/vehicles did alterra loose near this trench? I found like 20 seatruck pieces already, definitely more than 20 laser cutters, and like 30 seamoth/grav traps.

[eternal garnet]

Fred is ashamed about that, really he is

[tacit thorn]

is that the guy who jettisoned his modules several times?

[west mountain]

Be thankful, thats what you are finding now

Fred ia great, i like Fred the low maintenance guy with his mustache shaving kit.

https://youtu.be/rdix1XxaZyU

[tacit thorn]

uh, no, I am finding truck cabins. Who are the 20+ unfortunate dead souls who were in them?

[unborn trail]

Ok is it even possible to get this out

[weary idol]

How’d that happen

[unborn trail]

It was fine on the ground not near there and I was deyhatreding so I used the teleport teather to my sea truck to rehydrate

And when I got there back to get it got there

[weary idol]

It used to happen a lot in sub 1 if you left your vehicle to close to land it would get sucked up

Rendering/physics bug I think

[unborn trail]

Dam

[weary idol]

No way to get it back but you alr cheated just spawn a new one😭

[unborn trail]

I can just make a new one right?

[weary idol]

Yes

I wouldn’t see why not

[unborn trail]

Ah it’s fine I don’t having anything notable in it

[weary idol]

Then go into PDA and mark it invisible

And just use the new one

[unborn trail]

K thanks

[tacit thorn]

I'm wondering - once I have sea truk, will I ever need a portable light source? except for exploring caves on surface?

[west mountain]

You gave the answer yourself. Plus there are parts on land so no seatruck

[hot sluice]

The amount of power Solar panels give is based on your depth. At 123meters they give 50% power. So you cant just say "X solar panels will power X"

[tacit thorn]

You can, just with note 'at depth X, multiply by Y when at depth Z'. Gives clear rule of thumb amounts.

[weary idol]

Just use the bio or nuclear reactor 😭

[tacit thorn]

nuclear requires me to hunt for uranium so its not replenishable, is it?

[weary idol]

Uranium is abundant asf hunting for it is a bit of a overstatement

And 1 rod lasts forever so by the time it runs out you’ll have plenty for more

Unless your building a industrial complex

[next current]

I usually just go for Thermal. You never have to maintain it and it's also always generating energy.

[ivory charm]

try getting in it and using unstick button

[unborn trail]

Ready tried I can’t even get in it

[weary idol]

haven’t used thermal that much but the one time I did 3 was plenty of power for a FOB which for me is a scanner multipurpose with a fab n battery power cell recharge

But solars are all around bad imo really only enough power for a single multi a light use fab and maybe a charger

And the amount of materials to get a decent amount of power isn’t worth it

It’s like copper lube and titanium for a bio reactor that you have to tend to occasionally but the power is good for a decent base and you can always use the space the bio takes up and put a nuclear there when that comes around

[next current]

There's one lava geyser that produces temperatures at around 200° which is insane. It just exists.

[weary idol]

I might buy sub bz haven’t played since they took it off gamepass

[next current]

I don't know why it exists. I'm pretty sure it's an accident. But somehow, it's hotter than the ||Lava Lakes|| in SN

[next current]

I still feel bad for gamepass users.

[weary idol]

That’s where I built my FOB

I played the original sub like a million times on ps4 and got like 36 hours on bz before they took it off

[next current]

Fair.

[autumn salmon]

i need to do the satellite tower thing

[weary idol]

My favorite biome is the one with the squid sharks I think they’re called and it’s like a whole bunch of acid shroom looking things

[autumn salmon]

how do i get to the ||stern|| of ||mercury I I|| without getting eated by a crab

[weary idol]

That’s the ship hanging off the edge near the lilys?

[next current]

Deep Lilypad Caves?

[weary idol]

Is that near the phantom levitation

[autumn salmon]

stern is between ||tree spires|| and ||purple vents||, behind ||delta island||

there are 3 shrimps that hang near that area

[weary idol]

||I have no idea what any of that is but if it’s the one near Margie’s base I think you can just swim in but you need a laser||

[viscid idol]

Is the seamoth in Below zero?

[weary idol]

Seatruck

It’s like the sea moth but can fit a bed n stuff on the back

Not to sure but the modules might slow you down but are detachable I’m pretty sure

I’m a prawn suit enjoyer so I’m not to versed in the seatruck

[weary idol]

Not to sure but it’s around twisty bridges and you HAVE to swim down to get there

[ivory charm]

no

[next current]

Oh. The Deep Twisty Bridges.

Yeah, it really is a pretty biome. It's a shame it's so cramped.

[violet mantle]

I have been using solar quite a bit for microbases (one X section, one T section with bed, and hatch on top of the X underwater, two X sections and one T section with bed on land since you can't really put the hatch on top when on land). If I put a charger in or have a snowfox pad then I might use two solar panels.

[west mountain]

Snowfox pads comes with its own solar panels, they dont need to be powered by a base

[violet mantle]

Wish I knew about the hatch on top trick when I was playing original SN. And yes it works on legacy.

[west mountain]

There is even a hatch underneath

[violet mantle]

But bio is my go to for scanner bases (one bioreactor, one scanner room, one control room, one bed, some storage, battery/power cell charger, and fabber) powered by fevered peppers.

[west mountain]

Same

[violet mantle]

Thermal is so limited compared to SN.

[west mountain]

True, there is only the vulcano immediately to the left of delta island dock that gives you 200°, all other vulcanos or lava lakes only give you 50-90°. Very disappointing!

[ivory charm]

who actually uses the snow fox

just use the prawn suit

[west mountain]

I use it all the time I have 4 of them

[ivory charm]

it's like 10x better

[autumn salmon]

snow fox is faster and looks more fun

[ivory charm]

also i found a bunch of places to glitch on the roof of the island with the prawn

also prawn is fast if u know how to use it

[autumn salmon]

you gotta kill a prawn with a prawn

kill this prawn with the other prawn

[next current]

Bro has a dirt bike collection but with Snowfoxes.

Btw... I dunno why... but Snowfox is such a cute name for some reason.

[tacit thorn]

is that a game achievement?

[ivory charm]

no

[next current]

The devs do not reward players for killing the local fauna.

[tacit thorn]

... do they punish them tho?

[next current]

The weight of your sins for killing the beautiful fauna is more than enough. So basically no.

[tacit thorn]

I only terminate fauna that tries to hurt me. Sometimes pre-emptively.

Design question:
How many 'vertial steps' for foundation under moonpool to comfortably disembark with prawn?
pictured 3 vert steps, seems a bit too long drop.

[crude ember]

so yknow how theres no hull reinforcement upgrade in bz? well if you give yourself one with commands (they didnt remove it) you can still equip it on a prawn suit lol

the seamoth works too wait
i just realized you can spawn in all the vehiclds

or just the seamoth

but thats cool never realized that

[violet mantle]

I do but I have mods that lets me use both upgrades at once and give it storage.

[ivory charm]

nice

[tacit thorn]

is there a practical limit to seatruck module count, or I can push 10 storage modules and ride on?

[eternal garnet]

no limit we have found. It goes slower with module count though

[tacit thorn]

with each module, or is there a cutoff?

[crude ember]

at a certain point it just stops moving i believe

[craggy ferry]

thank god i have that mod that removes the slowdown feature

im in cyclops denial

[tacit thorn]

how did this happen and how do I fix it? (manufactured 2 modules one after another and they clipped)

[vast idol]

Prawn suit with grabbling:

[tacit thorn]

nvm, got it fixed. just some moving around then leave them alone until they unclip. then it happened again when connecting segments, argh. Modules got some damage too

[mild oracle]

i wonder what the devs have planned for subnautica 2

[whole gate]

More like 3

Bz is 2

[mild oracle]

well....whatever

call it whatever you want.....

[whole gate]

Well it is called Subnautica: Below zero

[tacit thorn]

can observatory be connected to scanner room?

[whole gate]

Not sure

I don’t see why not

[tacit thorn]

is observatory one of those broken things that cannot be rotated? I had it built facing the correct way, but as soon as I removed corridor, it turned itself 180

[hot sluice]

When I did my full BZ playthrough (I keep getting interrupted in my playthroughs since) I never once used the Prawn suit. I built it and had it hanging off the back of the Truck, I just never found a situation that warranted using it. Weird. shrug If you find it fun, fine, but I didn't in the game. I'd probably use it to drill large deposits and that's it.

[whole gate]

Plus safe travels in the ||crystal caves||

[hot sluice]

Ya thats a place where a nice Iron skin might give you more confidence 😄

[carmine bobcat]

So unpopular opinion

The start of below zero we got was inferior to the original below zero start

The March 2020 early access start was a lot stronger then the opening we ended up getting in final release

[hot sluice]

I wouldnt say thats unpopular at all. Its hard to beat a Space Yacht blowing up and crashing, knocking you unconcious and then you waking u with fire in your face

dunno the march 2020 start so no comment

[carmine bobcat]

https://youtu.be/5vPek1I5tZ8

Honestly the whole willingly coming to the planet thing rubs me the wrong way

The whole willingly putting yourself into a survival situation is stupid

Hell robin or Sam (forget which was the sister)‘s death was dumb too

And alteraia’s explanation wasn’t even wrong

Alteraia said she died of her own negligence which isn’t incorrect she blew up a research facility without any concrete evidence of Altera’s nefarious motives and got herself killed in a cave in

[vast idol]

You could literally yeet yourself at mach 8 with grabbling

its a mess

[carmine bobcat]

Not only killed herself but another totally innocent researcher

So basically the story is Sam shows up to check what really happened to her sister and altera was totally correct

[vast idol]

deleted message guhh

oops wrong reply

[carmine bobcat]

Also why the eff can some effing random human can create a cure to a virus not even an infinitely more advanced civilization could

And it’s not a living thing anymore it’s freaking bones why did you have cure the virus to begin with

You know burning the bones to ash would of killed the virus too right?

It feels like they went out of the way too make a major plot point in the first game completely mute

Hell don’t we make batteries and other acids in this game

[crude ember]

||The architechts couldnt get a sample, my guess is since we need to scan stuff to fabricate it, the architechts were doing something similar and were trying to get enough of it to figure out its structure and fabricate more of it. We can fabricate it because we scanned a decent sample of it||

all the fabricator does is rearrange the atoms or whatever of useless objects into something you can use

[carmine bobcat]

Okay and why did they need to cure it…it’s a corpse

Burn the bones

[crude ember]

so alterra doesnt so anything bad with it i guess, hell if i know

[carmine bobcat]

Dissolve them in acid

Yes the point was you didn’t want alterra to get their hands on the virus

You can just reduce the bones to ash so the virus was unable to survive

[crude ember]

to be fair in robin's circumstances it wouldve been easier to ||cure the frozen leviathan than get a huge vat of acid and thaw that thing out and put it in said vat of acid||

[carmine bobcat]

It’s not like you want the bones to survive

[crude ember]

why would robin want to ||destroy an ancient frozen creature when she could just cure it||

for all we know it's the only of its kind

[carmine bobcat]

Because curing an incurable disease makes the whole bs we did with the first game completely ridiculous

Like if we could just cure it why didn’t we do that with the first game instead of the plot we had

This plot seems wildly inconsistent between games

[crude ember]

because we didnt know how to get ||enzyme 42||

robin scanned it therefore she can fabricate it

there was no need to fabricate the ||enzyme|| in the 1st game cuz the ||sea emperor juveniles carried the enzyme||

[carmine bobcat]

Okay and here’s another huge effing plot hole

Why the heck can you beat subnatica below zero without curing the corpse

You can literally leave with Alan without dealing with the curing the corpse plot

[crude ember]

to be fair at the end of the game ||robin suggests that shes ready to leave her entire past behind which is kinda dark||

so maybe it's the "selfish ending"

[carmine bobcat]

And the ending doesn’t change there is no screen explaining what happens afterwards

And unless the next game looks at your save file for this one it won’t matter

[crude ember]

||robin went with alan because she wanted to help the architect race||

not ||curing the leviathan is basically a "selfish ending"||

[carmine bobcat]

Which is never gonna come up in the third game

[crude ember]

alan literally says there is no turning back

[crude ember]

well the third game probably will have something to do with the crater

considering im pretty sure its called subnautica 2

[carmine bobcat]

Because unless you can pick what choices you made for the last game you’ll never see any punishments for you choice

[crude ember]

like i said we probably wont play as robin

[carmine bobcat]

And that makes the choice meaningless if it is never explored

And? It can still effect other pcs

[crude ember]

the devs will figure something out im sure

[carmine bobcat]

Alterra is a big company and if they get their hand on it the game can start with a new report about billions dying due to some kind of new super weapon

[crude ember]

with how much they think through the world of subnautica

[carmine bobcat]

So unless the game lets you choose which ending you did or reads a save file there will be no consequences for the players actions

Honestly below zero was the weaker out of the two games

[crude ember]

my theory is that the ||frozen leviathan being cured is probably the canon ending||

[carmine bobcat]

I honestly can not get into the plot of this game it seems a bit ridiculous

[whole gate]

I reckon more people don’t cure it

It’s a bit out of the way of the main story

[carmine bobcat]

What do you think below zeros story seems very weak

[whole gate]

You gotta help et get home

[carmine bobcat]

And go with him…an alien you barely know just because your sister did something stupid and got herself killed

You had no evidence that Alterra was actually planning to do something untowards with the corpse

Wild paranoid accusations are not evidence Sam

It sounds like the plot with that story was corporations are evil…even when you have no evidence

[hexed quartz]

noot

[whole gate]

Well alterra arnt very nice to their workers

In subnautica they don’t really care about getting Riley back safe

They just say oh yeah build this rocket

Plus he has outstanding debt of like 3 trillion credits cuz he mined a bunch of rare resources

[languid crystal]

It was slightly rushed as the old story was scrapped partway through development

[whole gate]

Honestly I don’t mind the bz stroy

Story

[languid crystal]

Yeah, it’s not bad! I really love the two stories that happen at once.

[carmine bobcat]

the first game was infinitely better in my opinion

I'd replay subnatica 1 a second time...probably not below zero

[rain sun]

hello, i have just downloaded below zero, but every time i start a game, the cutscene starts and then immediateley crahses. putting all of the graphics on lowest quaillity made the cutscene last longer, but it still crahsed after a few seconds. how do i fix this??? also, do i ping the playtesters to help me sort this out?

[ivory charm]

1-don't ping the play testers,2- idk how to fix it

[eternal hedge]

how good is bz, played a bit in early access

[west mountain]

Its great, I love it.

[bold monolith]

shell:localappdatalow\Unknown Worlds\Subnautica Below Zero

Drag & drop your Player.log.

[rain sun]

i dont know what a player log is

[bold monolith]

It's a bad sign if it crashes randomly though, maybe heat or something like that.

It's a file.

[rain sun]

my pc parts are above the medium required

[rain sun]

no it crashes at the exact same time: when the alarm starts blaring for the ship during the cutscene

[bold monolith]

Please share your log file and we will find out.

[rain sun]

whats a log file????

like a video or screen record?

[bold monolith]

This.

[rain sun]

what is player.log

[bold monolith]

A log file.

[west mountain]

shell:localappdatalow\Unknown Worlds\Subnautica Below Zero

[rain sun]

do i clikc on that link

[bold monolith]

You copy / paste it, either in the address bar of your file explorer or windows key + r.

[rain sun]

ah

[bold monolith]

Is your graphic card overclocked?

0x00007FFC4186C6E0 (d3d11) CreateDirect3D11SurfaceFromDXGISurface

You have an error in direct 3d.

[rain sun]

how do i know if its overclocked and also, is overclocked good

[bold monolith]

You don't have much VRAM.

[rain sun]

oh.

[bold monolith]

Which might be the problem.

[rain sun]

big sad

i can run subnautica 1 at 600 fps idk why below zero cant run at all

[eternal hedge]

had the same issue in ea

[bold monolith]

You can run SN1 with 600FPS and a 2009 graphic card?

[rain sun]

well yes

[bold monolith]

I have a GTX 1080, I don't have your FPS in the first game.

[rain sun]

i will take screenshot of my 600 fps

[bold monolith]

Maybe if you are in the main menu with the lowest preset.

I doubt you have that many in the game.

[rain sun]

i tried and that just made the cutscene last 12 seconds

instead of 0

thats VERY odd

it normally said 599

[bold monolith]

It probably takes your FPS in the main menu, maybe it's the average when you just start and quit the game without loading anything.