they are completely insignificant to the course of the wiki
#📚wiki-discussion
rigid jacinth
heady gulch
the entire notion of "ogs" is a joke
its like bragging about how long you've been alive
oh yes i am og and know more than everyone else because im a 90 year old man hahahahah no.
onyx river
on top of the fact that they’ve only been here a few months
heady gulch
doesnt matter tbh, not like they are going to stay for more than a year probably, they'll get bored and head out evenutally.
onyx river
fair
neon mesa
@neon mesa sorry for the ping, but we were having some trouble with the audio player for the wiki, do you have any info regarding that?
@onyx river
I just looked at a random article which has an OGG file on it, and it appeared to be playing perfectly fine.
Could you provide a link to somewhere where the player isn't working?
edgy lagoon
it does this on both wikis
onyx river
^
edgy lagoon
mainly audio files that are in a table
onyx river
the css we had in-place also doesn't seem to work anymore, along with soundcloud links
edgy lagoon
still need to get an admin to fix the table colors
onyx river
oh yeah, forgot about that
neon mesa
The OGG player is currently non-functional if placed within a collapsible section on a UCP-migrated wiki.
It is a bug, which has already been ticketed and I believe Fandom is working on a fix.
If you pull the content out of a collapsed section, it should work fine.
onyx river
so i guess we have to decide if we want to pull them out of the sound tables or to wait
neon mesa
Yep, that's up to you folks.
Myself and others have already added to the ticket, by submitting examples of the bug to full-time staff (from other wikis).
However, that's all I can personally do at the moment to work toward that eventual fix.
edgy lagoon
I think we should leave 'em there if it's gonna be fixed
neon mesa
I don't have an ETA on a fix, but the ticket has been open for over a month so far.
onyx river
do you have any info about soundcoud links?
neon mesa
Are you referring to the developer wiki script? (https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/SoundcloudPlayer)
I've never played around with that myself, since it's not a standard Fandom feature. However, I believe that script was created specifically for the UCP, so it should be working.
neon mesa
Yeah, that's the embed method that could be used on legacy wikis.
I don't believe there's UCP support for that (yet), but the developer wiki script I linked above allows you to use an alternative for now.
neon mesa
Have you messaged an Admin on the wiki? (probably the best place to start)
onyx river
heh, good idea, we've just been waiting for them to be online here
oh, interesting, it no longer shows message wall posts in the recent activity, you have to click on social activity instead
which presents a few problems
neon mesa
Such as?
onyx river
i dunno about the others, but i often relied on everything being in one place, that may just be me being lazy, but there is at least 1 message wall post i'm pretty sure breaks the guide lines
neon mesa
If you're averse to viewing activity by clicking on two links instead of one, you're in luck - there's a developer wiki script for that too (https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/WikiActivity).
It (somewhat) mimics the old Wiki Activity feed, by placing that activity in one place. You'll have to discuss with your wiki's administrators whether they want to add that one too, just like the other script I mentioned above.
onyx river
yeah, i added that but it does the same thing, but it looks like its been updated, thanks
cinder kestrel
the wiki did not die
This channel is a lot more active than https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges.
cinder kestrel
Barely. I might be able to glean the meaning of something just through logic with little knowledge of the syntax.
If you're curious about ImportJS, I understand it enough to import scripts.
onyx river
Okay, would you mind checking over my personal js, I don’t fully understand it either, I seem to be able to import it okay, but my configurations don’t seem to work the way I want them to, specifically headerLink
dreamy holly
@cinder kestrel you cant really say the wiki is dead or at least not relevant because of recent edits, wikis were kinda made to learn and read from.
onyx river
Yeah but the wiki still needs to be updated, there are parts that we just haven’t noticed
dreamy holly
Not our fault half of the people who visit dont know how to edit
onyx river
Should I create a Disambiguation page instead of having this
dreamy holly
probably, since there is also other assets such as the voice actor
dreamy holly
Its not that big a deal to inform both of them
rigid jacinth
well a lot of pages are getting deleted because the admins didn't want them to be there
so i asked the admins
heady gulch
i havent been up to date what has been happening because of exam studies.
dreamy holly
those edits/pages were mainly created by people who were misinformed or use smaller assets (example: a Brine Page when the Lost River page exist has been done many times).
rigid jacinth
yea
agile spindle
@onyx river yes
rigid jacinth
someone should put up an admin statement about the Brine thing
dreamy holly
The brine info is all in the Lost River page
agile spindle
1 person made it
dreamy holly
Then an admin deletes it. Worse case scenario is they go into a temper tantrum
rigid jacinth
oh i thought there were more
heady gulch
i think theres been... at least like 2..
agile spindle
brine page history says 1
dreamy holly
I think someone wrote on the discord about if they could make one
heady gulch
really? I thought during the time of gush someone else made a brine page
agile spindle
not according to the records
dreamy holly
I actually think it was Base who mentioned if they could make the page
heady gulch
huh. guess it's just deja vu
rigid jacinth
i thought four people made one in the past two months
agile spindle
no
dreamy holly
Definetly not
rigid jacinth
I actually think it was Base who mentioned if they could make the page
@dreamy holly who?
well four people said they would make one
agile spindle
i havent seen four people say they would make one
one has tried, one has been deleted
if more people had tried then i wouldve locked the page from being created
theres no need for an announcement
rigid jacinth
i havent seen four people say they would make one
@agile spindle on discussions
if more people had tried then i wouldve locked the page from being created
@agile spindle you probably should anyway
agile spindle
if it becomes a problem i will
rigid jacinth
maybe it would be a good idea to do it just in case someone tries again?
agile spindle
i dont want to blanket protect every single page people have tried to create
rigid jacinth
fair
agile spindle
unless multiple people make a page unnecessarily theres no need to protect it
rigid jacinth
fair
but completely, completely, COMPLETELY unrelated, i like your prof pic
This man is driving me up a wall
he said that once already, then an admin deleted it
then he said it again
https://subnautica.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000072066/r/4400000000000213275 heres the link if you want/need it
dreamy holly
Im no mod, buts thats not the biggest deal
dreamy holly
oh and im busy and cant hop on BZ right now, but apparently they added the Glacial Forest music so can someone verify this for me
lusty hearth
It hasn't arrived to experimental yet.
dreamy holly
ok thx
dreamy holly
oh ok thanks for the link
neat knot
+__*
this is roboto
copy and paste him on onether discord server
lets take over discord
agile spindle
can i cut and paste you to another discord
fervent folio
^
steel palm
yeah that would be GREAT
heady gulch
how does one disable a user's messaging perms in the wiki discussion boards
cinder kestrel
I think you have to block the user entirely to prevent them from using Discussions.
heady gulch
somones been posting quite a lot of memes under the general tab, including one with hints of wwII related content.
cinder kestrel
If we have something already written in the guidelines about this, then the user could reasonably be blocked.
Or at the very least, given a warning.
heady gulch
hes been posting memes quite a lot, last one was 22 minutes ago.
which wouldnt be a problem if he posted half this in offtopic but
actually, all of it, not half of it
does blocking on the wiki actually disable their discussion perms?
I remember that one user had their discussion perms locked but they werent blocked on the wiki.
onyx river
There are a few recipes that need to be changed
agile spindle
anyone should be able to edit recipes
viscid sage
I can try compiling a list
agile spindle
or is it locked
agile spindle
ill unlock it, i think i locked important templates like that before because wiki activity didnt show them being edited
onyx river
The recipe2 is locked
agile spindle
since everyone has recent changes now people will see edits to the page
agile spindle
which ones
agile spindle
done for all three
onyx river
Thanks
rigid jacinth
@agile spindle Is spreading gossip against the wiki rules?
agile spindle
if its about another user yes
agile spindle
im not gonna ban people for what they do off the wiki
just dont bring it into the wiki
heady gulch
alrighty. someone talkin smack about someone on the wiki? @rigid jacinth
rigid jacinth
are we counting gossip on-wiki or outside of wiki?
@heady gulch ON
im not gonna ban people for what they do off the wiki
@agile spindle it's on the wiki
heady gulch
mkay, is it a recent post or discussion?
rigid jacinth
The user has attacked me for an option I chose in a poll multiple times
agile spindle
link the discussion
rigid jacinth
This is literally the definition of gossip, is it not?
mkay, is it a recent post or discussion?
@heady gulch Yes, made around 2 hours ago.
agile spindle
i dont understand the context
heady gulch
hmm... I think its a case of pushing it with Shtposting in offtopic.
heady gulch
yea i remember that, i deleted the first guys joke comment about "im gonna have to put you down".
but i left the second one alone when they recommended it because honestly. its. how do you take that seriously? they didn't say it with legitimate malicious intent or to be threatening.
onyx river
@lusty hearth are you working on Databank2 also?
If so it might help to come up with a list of changes that need to be made so we dont mess with each others edits and stuff
rigid jacinth
they didn't say it with legitimate malicious intent or to be threatening.
@heady gulch no, but I don't like being called out for liking something.
onyx river
May I suggest talking with the user about it first?
agile spindle
either way i deleted the post
rigid jacinth
Thx
heady gulch
its like posting the image of the intro to fallout new vegas where you get shot in the face after Benny says "sorry, but the game was rigged from the start" people post that kind of stuff jokingly. but if becomes a heavily recurring thing then I'll look into it, and it looks like it's slowly developing into it, so, I'll keep an eye out if he keep this up more.
Because I know that HE knows you aren't happy with it Baselerson.
rigid jacinth
Smth about these posts seemed wrong. Is there a guideline against these?
lusty hearth
@onyx river I haven't edited Databank2 today.
cinder kestrel
Second one yes. First one, eh . . .
heady gulch
its an odd question to be asking for the age but in my opinion it falls into a grey area, I think youd have to ask the others on how they fe-
a conclusion has been made.
onyx river
I haven't edited Databank2 today.
Okay just making sure
heady gulch
https://i.redd.it/nat29wyemjb21.png I was looking around and spotted this
is this accurate?
onyx river
It looks very similar to one we already have
dreamy holly
I mean it has a watermark
onyx river
That too, but if we talked to the creator and they approved we could probably get it removed
dreamy holly
overall i like it
heady gulch
It looks very similar to one we already have
@onyx river we have it on our wiki?
i cant find it in any of the fauna pages
onyx river
Not this exact one, but similar ones
dreamy holly
leviathan class lifeforms page
heady gulch
yeah, i meant those on- oh gotcha i'll have a look there
dreamy holly
the one we have
heady gulch
the sea emperor one in specific though i question.
onyx river
Yeah, we could probably get the image if we talked to the creator
heady gulch
That too, but if we talked to the creator and they approved we could probably get it removed
@onyx river This is a compilation of mostly OUR wiki's images.
dreamy holly
he he
heady gulch
what they did was recropped a still frame from probably one of the images and moved it around with correct scaling
whats interesting is. wheres the sea emperor leviathan from?
im pretty sure we never did a proper size reference on it.
due to the one in the PCF being a non spawnable entity.
dreamy holly
They likely took a pic of a juvenile and correctly scaled it
onyx river
Possibly
heady gulch
maybe?
dreamy holly
or took a really good pic of the PCF one
heady gulch
i mean, their point of refernece is most likely the size of the player.
probably used one of the screenshots with a good look at the player and used the player model as a size reference to scale all the other images
dreamy holly
I like the little player refrences and peepers near the leviathans tho, nice touch
onyx river
So, how do we use it with the water mark?
heady gulch
my question isnt how we use it, its, is it accurate enough to use?
fervent folio
is this accurate?
no
heady gulch
i just zoomed in and saw that the player image isnt the size ref but just a pic of the heavy dive suit cropped in there.
onyx river
Well, that answers our question
dreamy holly
Yeah i dont think the sea empeor and sea dragon are that off
same with reefback and reaper
fervent folio
reefback is longer than the the reaper
seadragon is a bit longer than the ghost
onyx river
So, I guess we don’t use the image
dreamy holly
yeah the image we already have kinda proves this one wrong
heady gulch
why is it so low res?
fervent folio
that one looks at lot more accurate
but why is it like 3 pixels
is there anyway to stop things from moving in game
heady gulch
speed 0
fervent folio
oh
yea that works
cursive vigil
https://i.redd.it/nat29wyemjb21.png I was looking around and spotted this
@heady gulch Yes it is
heady gulch
did you compile the img?
fervent folio
Yes it is
@cursive vigil wdym 'yes it is'
cinder kestrel
I think I can guess.
Tsar and TheVentBro understand the context, and I believe I now understand--and, since they're the two main people in their conversation, we don't need to know that the question was "is this accurate?"
heady gulch
probably yeah but what im wondering is were they the ones that compiled the photo
undone summit
yo anyone want to play subnatica wit me
there is a mod where u can play together
heady gulch
@undone summit hi, this is the subnautica wiki chat for discussion pertaining the wiki, Everyone here is mostly busy with wiki stuff, I'm sure you can find more users to help you out in #off-topic
fervent folio
they already sent the message in that channel.. and every other channel 😑
heady gulch
oh.
dreamy holly
lol
heady gulch
even in.. art chat...
undone summit
yeah sorry bout that
dreamy holly
oh god if thats in art
onyx river
Get rid of your notifications dang it
heady gulch
obraxis isn't fond of people posting offtopic stuff in art channel
dreamy holly
just some rando kid who did it once, not a big deal
fervent folio
@white hemlock this is a chat for the subnautica wiki, not an among us chat
distant thunder
It's legit an art channel for both subnautica and non subnautica
That logic isn't sound
heady gulch
That logic isn't sound
@distant thunder having lengthy discussions instead of posting art counts as getting offtopic, the art channel is meant for art to be posted, and sometimes discussed about a certain art piece someone made. they prefer it clutter free
distant thunder
I agree, the person randomly typing in there doesnt have anything to do w the art, and sometimes it gets off topic. You cant really read the note at the top saying don't chat about it here but for someone new to discord or who has little knowledge of it wouldn't know.
But yeah, it does cause some clutter.
viscid sage
Is it possible for non-admin users to move image pages?
viscid sage
oh okay
onyx river
We used to be able to but they disabled that to prevent spam
viscid sage
that makes sense
kinda sucks tho cuz there's a bunch of item icons and other images that need to be moved to fix templates, etc
onyx river
Yeah
agile spindle
then let us know what they are
viscid sage
I will send a list in a sec
onyx river
Renaming stuff
viscid sage
FLORA:
Lily Flower Flora.png -> Young Cotton Anemone Flora.png
Lily Flower Icon.png -> Young Cotton Anemone Icon.png
Glacial Tree Flora.png -> Frost Acacia Flora.png
Snow Plant Flora.png -> Frosted Sinew Tree Flora.png
Glacial Bulb Flora.png -> Violet Snowcone Flora.png
Double Shell Plant Flora.png -> Double Lung Plant Flora.png
Crystal Plant Flora.png -> Eclipse Plant Flora.png
Cave Bush Relative Flora.png -> Hardy Cave Bush Flora.png
Curl Plant Flora.png -> Jade Membrane Flora.png
Single Shell Plant Flora.png -> Luna Plant Flora.png
Twisty Bridges Long Coral Coral.png -> Pink Narrowleaf Flora.png
Bubble Mushroom Flora.png -> Reaper’s Wineglass Flora.png
Spiral Chunk Icon.png -> Spiral Plant Clipping Icon.png
ITEMS:
Snowfox Jump Module.png -> Snowfox Hop Module.png
FAUNA:
Yellow Trivalve Egg Icon.png -> Gold Trivalve Egg Icon.png
Yellow Trivalve Icon.png -> Gold Trivalve Icon.png
okay here's a list
sorry I responded 6 hours late btw
cinder kestrel
Six hours to the minute. Nice.
viscid sage
I might have forgotten stuff but this is what I could think of off the top of my head
lol
onyx river
Are you GitErDid on the wiki?
lusty hearth
That's them.
onyx river
I thought so but wasn’t sure
viscid sage
yes
is that a bad thing?
btw I forgot one:
Coral Shelf Coral.png -> Shelf Coral Coral.png
onyx river
No, I was just wondering
onyx river
You can
Unless you’ve already changed it
If you do keep in mind it’s your only rename
viscid sage
Oh cool thx
onyx river
Np
dreamy holly
oh GitErDids on, cool
flat niche
Why does the chelicerate article say its found in the East Arctic but its biome list on the fauna page does not
which of those is the mistake
lusty hearth
Page that needs to be renamed:
Jellyfish -> Eye Jelly
manic rivet
Guys I need help, I just find the greenhouse and talk with marg then I have no idea what I have to do ??now I have no quest .
cursive vigil
Did you talk with Maida inside the greenhouse?
Explore the lilypad caves near Maida's base.
You'll find a lot of stuff, and an important alien place.
manic rivet
I believe I already did it
onyx river
yep
whats the question
lemme check it out
You may want to check this one out
admin
heady gulch
Oh god
Yeah I’m looking into it
isnt thius the same guy who asked other people their age?
onyx river
i think so
heady gulch
Ughh
heady gulch
If he keeps this up I’m putting that thesis to the test
Did he now?
I already deleted the thread but I’ll look over it
☕ they've been talking about this in a different thread
yeah, i don't like this.
mhm
happy trails
Picsl are you a content mod? @onyx river
heady gulch
I need another admin/moderator approval on this since im in a bit of a gray area
onyx river
you could ping stib?
onyx river
part time but yeah
heady gulch
this is definitely not serious enough to bring him in
onyx river
hes been really helpful with updates and the underage user thing
heady gulch
The gray area is I warned him regarding memeposting and offensive memes in the general boards
being a creepy lad is something entirely different from that.
so, should I slap a week to month long block because someone probably doesn't understand. the gravity. of the questions they are asking?
I did tell them in the warning related to memes that there wouldn't be a second warning- you know what, screw it, i'll do it and if he asks questions about why i'll be happy to answer
and of course i have no idea how to block users since i've never done it before
cinder kestrel
That's okay.
heady gulch
sls the saviour help me please
onyx river
heady gulch
yyeah I cant find that block page
heady gulch
yeah i cant access any of them through the search bar
heady gulch
ty ty
right I'm setting it up for a week on the basis of unacceptable behavior (Asking personal questions to users repeatedly, and posted unacceptable memes and mems in the wrong places previously)
sly heath
i think banning this snek guy is recommended
sly heath
oh
heady gulch
if he keeps this up it'll just get worse
I honestly think the person just, doesn't understand the gravity of the kind of questions they are asking, but, regardless, what has to be done will be done.
sly heath
if he starts doing that on the rp server then im banning him from that too
heady gulch
heady gulch
sigh
onyx river
Gotta love that
heady gulch
Let me know any time he makes an account or pops back up again.
this is turning into the same situation with Ghostlevilova
onyx river
At least this time he’s not underage, at least that we know of
heady gulch
we warned him on the basis of memes and inappropriate material.
I did personally warn him
heady gulch
isnt there an admin setting that shows when a new user is registered?
inner arrow
heady gulch
I'll be sure to look there
inner arrow
this is a good map
heady gulch
righty I put up a post on discussions im going to guess they might see it, And i hope the memo gets across to them that ban evasion is bad
bold statements only
cinder kestrel
This admin is discussing bans? Well, I'm not banned (or I'm banned), so it doesn't apply to me (or I can't do anything about it). Time to ignore it and create sockpuppets once I'm banned.
I wouldn't be suprised if someone thinks either of those two thoughts.
Oh, well.
heady gulch
if they are going to use poor judgement on their situation that is on them.
the guidelines are there and always have been there and it's heavily encouraged to look through it so they can't really feign ignorance.
heady gulch
They appealed so I lifted the ban on the conditions they Do Not do this again and to use better judgement on what they say.
heady gulch
I did.
cinder kestrel
Wikipedia has pages on lots of stuff.
heady gulch
I let them know what they did wrong, to read the rules thoroughly, and that I wont warn them next time.
Its their responsibility to hold themselves to the guidelines.
cinder kestrel
Yeah, I'll drink some water to that from my 2-liter (64 oz.) water bottle. Hear hear.
heady gulch
but one of their reasons was that they didn't see the notif from my first warning on their message board, do i believe this? No, considering they stopped posting memes in general boards shortly after and theres a thign to see in notifs on fandom. but. as long as they dont do any of this stuff again its fine with me
cinder kestrel
Before the UCP, I could understand that reason.
heady gulch
if he slips again its going to be a month block for him.
livid token
Call me peeper leviathan but if you ping me (which you should when talking to me) ping @livid token
heady gulch
what
rigid jacinth
Are you the OTHER peeper leviathan on wiki
dreamy holly
ok...........
rugged tartan
peeper
rigid jacinth
Are you the OTHER peeper leviathan on wiki
@livid token are u?
onyx river
When someone’s available can we get updated photos of the med Kit fabricator?
They still have the red
And they were taken in 2016
livid token
@livid token are u?
@rigid jacinth are you talking about Dogedude1 (thats my fandom user)
rigid jacinth
No
manic rivet
hey guys i'm already sad because i don't find all the precursor technology did someone can help?
onyx river
Hop over to #subnautica-chat
ivory steppe
#below-zero-chat would be more appropriate.
onyx river
Yes, I didnt realize they were referring to bz, we’ve already talked about it
heady gulch
@edgy lagoon heya just checking in, I havent been checking much due to exam studying, did you add any more photos to the folders for the Neptune Escape Rocket?
edgy lagoon
no, my bad, haven't gotten around to it
heady gulch
ah alrighty!
heady gulch
is there anyway to make the aurora cease to exist?
all things considered something like that would be considerably useful for taking pictures of the neptune rocket
onyx river
I believe if you go far enough into the crag field it dips out of render range
heady gulch
isn't the crag field right behind the aurora though?
onyx river
Yeah, I may be thinking of another biome though
You could also just go really far into the void
Also, if you’re in game would you mind grabbing some pictures of the med Kit fabricator, the current ones are still red
heady gulch
alright, got some gantry photos, I'll be putting these on the wiki once we are done with getting all the photos.
all we need now is the gantry shot with the fuel reserves online (see Google drive instructions), and The Gantry construction animation (see google drive instructions)
bottom side looks good
I dont know if we should put this in but it shows some more of the detial on the top of the ion booster,
felt a floor view would be necessary especially with what im guessing are supports on the sides.
basic side view
and a top view.
well all we need left is a construction animation of it
probably something taken from either freecam or floor view
heady gulch
@edgy lagoon hey anom, if you have the time, turns out theres 3 animations for the Fuel Reserves, that we dont have yet, being opening the hatch door from outside, and opening it from the inside., I also forgot to add construction of the fuel reserve gif in the instructions. If you have the time could you try to look into those?
I'm taking care of most of the static exterior and interior shots as im writing this
heady gulch
Problem, i think that the Tabber scripts broke
oh nvm
in the visual editor previews its bugged thats about it
heady gulch
opinions needed
would this be a nice image to put on the Neptune Rocket page as a sort of size comparison between the QEP and the Rocket?
this is a lil cleaner
livid token
How did u put that next to ur rocket
heady gulch
I called hackerman
silver tulip
heady gulch
also if anyone wants to help out the wiki
we need more time capsule photos in different biomes.
since, they can appear anywhere and appears 40 times per save
heady gulch
Found a mesmer egg in the bulb zone at 1213, -392, 867, I dont know if the egg spawns are pre-determined but i'm updating the egg list for locations
lusty hearth
I dont know if the egg spawns are pre-determined
They're part of the entity distribution.
At least the mesmer eggs in the Bulb Zone cave floors are.
heady gulch
huh mkay
well I updated the lists
i'll keep my eye out for any more eggs though
found a second one, yeah this is definitely not an odd spawn then
vast lodge
Bobux
dreamy holly
@heady gulch Some eggs have decided areas, they include Rock Puncher (at least in Koppa Mining Site), Cuttlefish, Sea Monkey, Crabsnake, Safe Shallow Gasopod, Titan Holefish, The Trivalves, and the BZ Crashfish
dreamy holly
Also i did not even know you were Xenodrone on the wiki lol
heady gulch
this (1)
or this? (2)
Jellyshroom capsule
Grassy Plateu [1] This
Grassy Plateu [2] Or this?
also option 3 for mushroom forest, so 3 options
oh and note i fudged all the images due to the poor state of how they generate randomly and the mindnumbing difficulty it is to find them in biomes or spots for good photos
onyx river
Xeno, In case you missed me earlier, would you mind replacing the med Kit fabricator gallery when you’re done
heady gulch
whats wrong with it?
lusty hearth
It's red.
heady gulch
huh.
heady gulch
mkay, musta kinda slipped between the cracks for me
sure thing I'll go see what i can updates
Hey Xeno mind if i upload your pics there? seems you already got 3/4ths of the gallery taken care of
lusty hearth
Of course.
heady gulch
okie dokie I'll upload those ones in there once i get a screenshot to replace the cyclops one
heady gulch
OH MY GOD THAT RESOLUTION
lusty hearth
Yes.
heady gulch
EW EW EW
YEAH I'LL UPLOAD YOURS IN THERE XENO
heady gulch
much much better
lusty hearth
The medkits or the arctic image?
lusty hearth
Nope, it's the West Arctic.
heady gulch
ohhh
lusty hearth
The captions are really weird.
heady gulch
yeaaaah
lusty hearth
So are some of the images.
heady gulch
it reminds me of something
lusty hearth
Mhm?
heady gulch
the caption radiates the same energy
lusty hearth
Here's my gallery layout:
Day overview
Night overview
Underwater overview (Day)
Underwater overview (Night)
Glacial Bulb Iceberg
Honeycomb Fungus Iceberg
Moulin
Pengwings on an Iceberg
heady gulch
thanks for the hard work!
agile spindle
2nd
heady gulch
Defintely 2
lusty hearth
Nice.
dreamy holly
Oh your redoing the West Arctic gallery, cool
lusty hearth
Yeah, there's a lot of superfluous images there.
Which overview is better?
Day/night Overview 1
Day/Night Overview 2
These are for the surface.
I've already settled on time of day overviews for the biome's underwater section.
lusty hearth
I might scrap that one since you have to squint to see anything on that image.
dreamy holly
1?
lusty hearth
The night image.
onyx river
The beauty of the game at night never ceases to amaze me
onyx river
Are you adding these xeno or do you want me to?
lusty hearth
I'm adding these to the page atm.
onyx river
Ok
I’m not a big fan of the new upload system
I don’t get why they removed the multi upload
dreamy holly
Theres a new upload system?
onyx river
Not really, but we can’t use the multi upload anymore because it doesn’t allow us to add the fair use licensing
dreamy holly
Ill be the first to say I have never touched multi-upload
onyx river
So it needs to be done individually
Ill be the first to say I have never touched multi-upload
@dreamy hollyit made life so much easier
dreamy holly
i have uploaded one picture during the UCP and that was the Gas Torpedo
and you really like the facepalm dont you?
onyx river
4 of the 5 servers I’m on has it
dreamy holly
nice
lusty hearth
Wondering if I should use this as the surface night overview.
dreamy holly
The moon seems unfitting
onyx river
Actually, I think the moon adds to it, without it it would be pitch black
lusty hearth
Removing the moon = this.
onyx river
Yeah, I vote moon
lusty hearth
Alright, gallery should be updated now.
onyx river
Also, am admin or discussions mod may want to go through the sn and possibly bz social activity under wiki activity. There are are a decent amount of comments that break the guidelines
heady gulch
UMMMM
dreamy holly
oh nvm it just took a while to load sry
heady gulch
srry caps
lusty hearth
I was worried for a second.
heady gulch
keep the moon
the issue with taking terrain shots at night both in subnautica and BZ is heavy loss of detail
so, anything that can illuminate or show any details in the darkness is optimal
onyx river
Aside from artificial light
dreamy holly
tell me this is easy to read
heady gulch
Also, am admin or discussions mod may want to go through the sn and possibly bz social activity under wiki activity. There are are a decent amount of comments that break the guidelines
@onyx river true but, if its something like swearing i dont have the time to rake through everything
onyx river
That is easy to read
heady gulch
I prefer the old format for the site
dreamy holly
@onyx river no
onyx river
There are a few... questionable ones, but it’s up to you
heady gulch
define questionable
dreamy holly
onyx river
Regarding certain facist leaders from the 1930/40s
dreamy holly
oh god
heady gulch
oh
onyx river
I, don’t wanna get kicked, I dunno if I would but I’m not risking it
onyx river
Oh, some random commenter
heady gulch
link the pages or dms if your worried about showing message content
onyx river
“In dms”, or “or dms”
onyx river
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Sea_Treader_Leviathan first one on the page
dreamy holly
oh....no
onyx river
Um, aside from the occasional explicit i don’t see anything else
dreamy holly
I think thats the first thing that user has ever done on the wiki
heady gulch
discrimination against a group of people in their name and image.
I'll keep an eye on them.
dreamy holly
That and the people who respond to every comment
onyx river
Mhm
dreamy holly
He also has a “interesting” profile pic
heady gulch
mhm, but, I'm not going to ban them just because I have a feeling on what they might do.
dreamy holly
and his name is also “interesting” when translated
heady gulch
I'll keep my eye on them and if they keep up this behavior I'm going to ice them without warning since seeing their first comment I can already assume they are here to cause trouble, and if they prove that suspicion right.
dreamy holly
nice
heady gulch
🐭
heady gulch
actually im just going to ice them. Regardless of the group they have made their account in a way that sets itself up to bother users. I don't care if it's an internet group of people.
cinder kestrel
and his name is also “interesting” when translated
Could be cause for blocking the username with IP block disabled and Account Creation not disabled (which blocks the username but not the person). Although, I haven't bothered to look at any of the comments, so I can't tell you if this is the best course of action.
dreamy holly
good
heady gulch
yeah im iceing them
onyx river
Ice ice baby🎵
dreamy holly
Also eithier they meant to spell the translated name wrong or my google tranlate is broken as always
@onyx river
heady gulch
their name is hunter of furries
dreamy holly
yes
heady gulch
their pfp is "anti furry coalition"
onyx river
It’s google translate, you can’t expect it to be that good
dreamy holly
my google translate says “Furro Hunter”
heady gulch
spanish google translate is pretty good
thats one of the languages it stuggles the least with
dreamy holly
pretty easy to put two and two together
heady gulch
the image was all i needed to see.
dreamy holly
cool, ice’em
heady gulch
But, since sls made me think, their account existance probably violates fandom's rules more than ours.
I did.
cinder kestrel
2018 or 2017?
heady gulch
I dont remember
cinder kestrel
I joined in March 2017.
dreamy holly
Thats as far as User Contributions would let me go
cinder kestrel
But you could be referring to something else.
heady gulch
I was a small brain back in 2017
dreamy holly
Whenever I joined, I was an idiot and had no idea how to edit
now look at me, barley changed
cinder kestrel
Thats as far as User Contributions would let me go
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/SLScool?dir=prev&target=SLScool
dreamy holly
IDK ok
onyx river
This needs to be renamed to Young Cotton Anemone.png https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/File:Lily_Flower_Icon.png
dreamy holly
Well good luck with that
speaking of renames, Snowstalker Baby needs to be renamed to Juvenile Snow Stalker
lusty hearth
A profound contribution.
dreamy holly
beautiful, the Brute Shark page is now complete
but no joke edits like that happen every day or so
lusty hearth
It's the fact that it's that particular user. Their contributions consist of adding a space or changing a single word on a page.
dreamy holly
welcome to a public page that anyone can edit
I think thats the same user who said H and E on my Fandom Bot message
heady gulch
That is considered badge farming.
you are kidding me.
no way.
vee already warned them
4 months ago.
mkay yeah my patience ran dry.
@dreamy holly need your opinion is this too harsh?
heady gulch
I reworded it, and calmed a little.
The same user Xenonuke is talking about adding pointless periods in the edits
in the bruteshark page
dreamy holly
BendyDevilBros
dreamy holly
ohhhh so thats why he adds random spaces
lusty hearth
Exactly. :P
dreamy holly
thats fair game then
heady gulch
let me know if they keep this up
dreamy holly
especially of Vee warned them
heady gulch
i dont check BZwiki much since i focus more on polishing content of SN wiki.
You don't simply ignore vee's words.
heady gulch
Yeah I said that as well for 3 years of my life, you get used to it.
but She is a Bureaucrat meaning she is higher level than I am on the wiki, her word should have been law enough for them.
dreamy holly
When I first joined, I got blocked by Vee twice because I messed up some edits. She good at her job, but I always feel shes got some beef with me
heady gulch
I'd scoff if i could but discord doesnt translate sound.
But I was in your shoes back in early 2017. Anyways, not important, if it's not too much to ask for.
can you guys keep an eye on that, bendydude
dreamy holly
sure
heady gulch
since I am not too current with what goes on in the BZ wiki
dreamy holly
I kinda wish there was a way to be notified of a certain users edits, but I guess thats kinda stalking lol
heady gulch
no, stalking is paparazzi'
what you're doing is the equivalent of a protective neighborhood watch
and I'd be doing it if I didn't have other things to handle
but yeah. this smells like badge farming
rank #27 off of...
lets see any content edits
dreamy holly
Why the heck did Fandom invent badges?
heady gulch
fandom didn't. wikis can choose to do so as incentive for users to do stuff
lusty hearth
You beat me to it. 😔
heady gulch
its a way of showing who's done what without having the owners give people medals of honor personally.
this is the most hes done in an edit i think
90 words from- oh from starfire the nightsandwing
yeah.
it would be
dreamy holly
I keep trying to delete messages and they send sry (Im using mobile)
heady gulch
since, again, it gives users incentive to work and also makes it easier for admins to see whos been doing a lot of work as well as for users to figure out where to go for for help from experienced users.
so having an actual badge based ranking helps a lot.
but with every good idea will be people triyng to ruin it
dreamy holly
fair
heady gulch
like badgefarming
but out of everyone i wanna see return on the wiki, starfire takes the cake
still waiting for his comeback ngl but, thats a different thing, Regardless.
keep eyes out for people badge farming
people doing one bit edits like simple periods and adding paragraph breaks is annoying but, the issue is when it goes from annoying to them doing it consistently.
cinder kestrel
the issue is when it goes from annoying to them doing it consistently
dreamy holly
I never did not look out for them, its just not a priority to other things like updating a page or reporting a person with a “intersting” name
heady gulch
if it don't fly with fandom it wont fly with us.
dreamy holly
why did I think that SLScools underlined words were links?
heady gulch
bold statements are important so, dont worry about it.
cinder kestrel
Usually, whenever I know/am pretty sure a user will be globally blocked by staff, I block them for no more than three days and report them. I can't tell if I'm being a bit mean by doing so.
@dreamy holly Take a guess.
dreamy holly
I am ashamed with myself
heady gulch
To be fair my problem is i give people too much benefit of the doubt, if anything.
dreamy holly
But no joke, I could find like 5 people who badge farm in like 30 minutes. Theres too many
heady gulch
But no joke, I could find like 5 people who badge farm in like 30 minutes. Theres too many
@dreamy holly please do actually.
cinder kestrel
Redbedlead could be one.
dreamy holly
heady gulch
I'll talk to him
cinder kestrel
ClutchOrpheus41 is another.
dreamy holly
Oh god SLScool I was joking?!
dreamy holly
I have a life to live
cinder kestrel
Would you like inactive users as well?
dreamy holly
Well not really but I dont really want to spend my weekend doing that
cinder kestrel
Inserteditinghere is another.
I've found 3 users in less than 4 minutes of searching.
dreamy holly
@cinder kestrel ?!?
heady gulch
SLS is a wiki god we all know that
if this were warhammer he'd be the equivalent of a high techpriest
dreamy holly
SLS has become a Warper that hunts Badge Farmers rather then Kharaa
cinder kestrel
To be fair my problem is i give people too much benefit of the doubt, if anything.
Consider https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Assuming_good_faith if you have not done so already.
heady gulch
I tend to give newbies benefit of the doubt of not understanding or mis-interpreting rules
which was why i was hesitant to ban snek on the grounds of asking questions that were considered creepy since.
lusty hearth
I presume we're only doing this for the SN wiki?
heady gulch
to someone who's maybe 14 or 13.. questions like that might not, make since the gravity of them.
both i guess?
to be fair I specialize on SN wiki since my knowledge of bz is pretty limited
dreamy holly
@lusty hearth They are Badge Hunter Hunting
lusty hearth
I've been searching through the user list in the other wiki. Most of the users edits that I've seen so far are comprised of comments than actual edits.
So far no badge farmers aside from BendyDevilBros.
dreamy holly
an about that good faith thing, lets all be honest you lose it when you see a newbie to this
lusty hearth
I remember seeing that.
cinder kestrel
For me, that just means I won't see that edit in good faith. It doesn't shake anything else.
https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Brandon_Rhea/Tips_for_being_a_great_admin is another good thing to read.
heady gulch
an about that good faith thing, lets all be honest you lose it when you see a newbie to this
I mean, actions speak for themselves
some come to cause trouble some are just. misguided at best.
dreamy holly
@cinder kestrel How do you find these things?
heady gulch
also thanks for the link sls
dreamy holly
I think they mean the “How to be a good admin” thing
cinder kestrel
How do you find these things?
I think they mean the “How to be a good admin” thing
I was responding to you, so to me, it looks like you're calling yourself "they."
I'm guessing you thought I was responding to TheVentBro with my three consecutive questions.
Anyway, for the users, I searched through the user creation and block logs (https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Log).
dreamy holly
@cinder kestrel kinda thought they were for everyone
cinder kestrel
kinda thought they were for everyone
I can't tell if you're referring to the logs, your previous message, my links, or what I said about "they." They all make sense to varying degrees.
dreamy holly
nvm
pure iron
hey there's a voice log on the subnautica fandom that isn't complete...
its been like that for like a year
fervent folio
which one?
fervent folio
can someone add the hatchingtime command to https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Console_Commands ?
it gives you 3 ion cubes, hatching enzymes, seaglide, rebreather, ultra glide fins, and lightweight high capacity tank and also teleports you to the pcf aquarium
unless its already on there and i'm just blind lol
tools command exists
which gives you prop cannon, stasis rifle, knife, flashlight, airbladder, habitat buider, pathfinder tool, scanner, repair tool, flare, laser cutter and light stick
turbid ermine
Your command is already written.
fervent folio
the tools one is only on the bz wiki
a few are only on the bz wiki even tho they work in SN1
like the 2 commands i mentioned, shotgun, techtype, goal, niceloot
turbid ermine
Note that they added some in SN1 as well in experimental, like ghost.
If you want the full list (66988).
heady gulch
trailing back to something i asked yesterday though
its a silly question but,
is it okay to put something like this in the NEPTUNE rocket page?
since, every vehicle has some sort of a size comparison in there
and. we really don't have any
we could do one with the player but then we dont have a black backdrop other than night time.
@agile spindle what do you think on this? I was thinking if we frame it right we could get something nice in front of the QEP since in terms of size i think it's the closest thing to use as any comparison
the only other 2 surface things are the Lifepod and the aurora, one of which would be hard to get in the right spot the other too large for anything
also is it fine that I Fudged every photo of the time capsules?
dreamy holly
Im not a Tueman, but I like putting the Gun next to the rocket as a size comparision.
livid token
I know the most big brain idea in SN
onyx river
Can you tell us in #subnautica-chat ?
heady gulch
it would be good, if i could get a good photo of it in my opinoin
since i think in this shot it just looks plain sloppy.
but regardless I'm hoping we can at least get something in as a size comparison.
agile spindle
i don’t see a reason to compare the rocket to the gun
it’s just not really a question that gives any useful information or that people even ask
deft burrow
does that thing what you need t cure Frolo Is in the wiki?
deft burrow
ty
heady gulch
gotcha tueman, what about a player size comparison with the rocket if it can be done?
agile spindle
thatd be a bit more useful yeah
heady gulch
Alrighty, I could have sworn there was a way to get the Camera drone view (where the player has an actual head)
i saw a video posted on the sn discord on how to do it to get photos.
agile spindle
maybe using teleport commands while operating it
heady gulch
maybe, I think photos with the full player would help for a size reference with the Rocket considering how large the rocket is and how far zoomed out the image will be to capture it's full size
livid token
HUH
deft burrow
Why isint BZ on the app?
Nvm
Ehh
Why isint PdA voicelogs changed?
Under dialouge
dreamy holly
@deft burrow maybe talk about his issue in #below-zero-chat
fervent folio
If you want the full list (66988).
oh epic, thanks
heady gulch
we are missing: [PlatformConstructionAnimation]
As well as possible size references.
I think we're done on the Cockpit
Thank you to Anomnum for the work on that
Fuel reserve is missing stuff actually, We need some of the animation recordings done for the Opening of the door from inside and from outside.
wait
we need animation work o-
i fgrogot to put somethign there
Right all we need now is a build animation.
This one looks pretty good to go. the Ion Boosters.
the only thing we are missing is a construction animation
so let me make a list of these things,
What we need still:
Neptune_Platform_Construction.gif make it the last 10 seconds of construction when it falls into the water
Neptune_Fuel_Reserve_Door1.gif Exterior door opening gif.
Neptune_Fuel_Reserve_Door2.gif Opening the door from the interior
Neptune_Fuel_Construction.gif Make sure this is a freecam shot, at most 10 seconds long at the least 5.
Neptune_Gantry_Construction.gif Same thing with the platform, this one takes a while so get the last 5-10 seconds of it.
Neptune_Ion_Boosters_Construction.gif The ion boosters are pretty quick, 5-10 seconds, either in freecam or form the ground floor. check [Ion booster anim static reference.jpg] for example
Extra:
Neptune_Gantry_reference.jpg Use size ref.
Neptune_Platform_reference.jpg If getting the player or size ref on the gantry walkway is too difficult, then do it on the platform in front of the rocket as a size ref pic.
okay i'm a little concerned now, anyone else having problems getting notifs from messages?
since I didn't get a notif for this
onyx river
I’m getting notifs
heady gulch
huh, must be my system acting up then
onyx river
Do you have settings messed up in your preferences
heady gulch
I have no clue honestly, I'll look into it
onyx river
Doesn’t show up for me
heady gulch
huh odd
heady gulch
i highlighted it
but, im confused why it didn't indent the gallery as 18.2.1
I didn't give the green gap that whole Recipe script
agile spindle
looks like picls fixed it
onyx river
There weren’t enough equals signs
heady gulch
oh huh, gotcha, thanks picls
viscid sage
Are the SubnauticaLink templates supposed to open new tabs when you click on them?
heady gulch
i have no idea actually
viscid sage
the SubnauticaLink and SubnauticaLink2 templates do but the SubnauticaLinkThe template opens links in the same tab
heady gulch
yeah, sorry dude I don't know much when it comes to any of the templates and scripts on the wiki
cinder kestrel
Why do we have two different templates?
Anyway, after making some guesses and them looking at the code of each template for about a second, I know why.
cinder kestrel
I'd fix it myself, but I want to know why there are twothree templates.
onyx river
who created them?
cinder kestrel
Two different admins created the three of them, although all three have been edited by various admins.
agile spindle
its because we were a bit special when we made those templates
cinder kestrel
One of the creators is here with us.
agile spindle
didnt have much experience with templates at the time
viscid sage
So some of those templates were just accidents?
I thought it was a formatiting thing
agile spindle
yes
cinder kestrel
@onyx river Don't look all surprised.
onyx river
so would it be better to convert them all to one?
agile spindle
yes
onyx river
@cinder kestrel bot time?
cinder kestrel
I guess I'll pull out SLSbot. Which template are we keeping?
agile spindle
keep SubnauticaLink
viscid sage
My only issue with that is that some pages have names that are so long that the text can't all fit on one line and overflows to a second line. it looks really bad
agile spindle
you need to modify the template though because the three different templates are for different grammar
so it needs to accommodate every possible type of word
viscid sage
pretty much
SubnauticaLink2 is by far the shortest but I don't know how much we like that one
it's barely used
cinder kestrel
{{SubnauticaLink|custom text you can add, defaults to the article you're currently on|the article you're going to, if different}}
That should cover the issue of "need[ing] to accommodate every possible type of word."
viscid sage
That could work
onyx river
so we can just put {{SubnauticaLink}} and itll work depending n the page?
viscid sage
possibly, but that would be kinda complicated to do it all automatically
it would prob have to be manual
agile spindle
SubnauticaLink says something like "this page is about '''blank'''" whereas SubnauticaLinkThe says "this page is about the '''blank'''"
cinder kestrel
Yes, and my fix should fix that.
agile spindle
its easy to fix it to be flexible
cinder kestrel
it would prob have to be manual
Eh, I'll still use SLSbot. Either way, it's easier to use bot software for repetitive tasks, even if they can't be automated.
cinder kestrel
But I do have a question: when would "the [articlename]," "[articlename]s," and "[articlename]" each be appropriate to use?
agile spindle
depending on what makes sense grammatically
you wouldnt say "this article is about prawn suit"
this article is about the prawn suit
cinder kestrel
And not "Prawn Suits"? Okay.
agile spindle
i mean you could but it doesnt make sense to have it plural
probably the distinction between proper and non proper determines whether it is plural
viscid sage
but you don't have to say 'this article is about blank'
cinder kestrel
Yeah, I get what you mean. I'm still thinking of my opinion on that.
onyx river
Hmm, would it make sense to use singular as often as possible? Or plural?
cinder kestrel
"Computer chips" would be good and "Gold" would be good.
I think countable versus non-countable determines it.
agile spindle
even if you make it plural as often as possible you'll still have times when you need it to be singular
for example, Precursor Thermal Plant cannot be plural
cinder kestrel
If you're that you want the contents of SubnauticaLink (with the fix) instead of the contents of SubnauticaLink2 or the contents of SubnauticaLinkThe, I'll get to work.
agile spindle
i am that i want
cinder kestrel
i am that i want
I'll try not to think of the implications of this.
viscid sage
actually, could we do something like a switch?
cinder kestrel
What would you want to switch?
viscid sage
like if you put in an extra value (for example, {{SubanuticaLink|2|blah blah blah}} you could have it say something different on the left side of the text for formatting
It wouldn't be that hard to program necessarily as long as we have if statements
at least
cinder kestrel
Currently, we have two parameters.
onyx river
The only problem is that it may be difficult for new users
cinder kestrel
Parameter 1, if specified, changes SubnauticaLink in this example. Parameter 2, if specified, changes the destination article.
agile spindle
not if you document it
cinder kestrel
{{SubnauticaLink|the best article|CreeperAwManSpamTrain}} would say "This article is about the best article in . . ." and link to the article CreeperAwManSpamTrain on the Below Zero Wiki.
onyx river
True, also considering the fact that most new users use visual instead of source
So they can’t really edit it anyways
agile spindle
visual editors can add templates
viscid sage
true
onyx river
Can they edit them though?
cinder kestrel
I think so.
onyx river
Oh, interesting
cinder kestrel
Actually, I think it takes them to source editing.
Actually, I think there's a visual option but I'm too busy with the bot to check it out.
onyx river
Is this happening on both wikis?
agile spindle
i dont think you can visual edit templates
viscid sage
you can't I'm pretty sure
that would be a good idea to do on both
I was trying to say that we could have a parameter that changes what the stuff on the right says, so that you can change that side from saying the actual page name to saying "click here" instead of "see blah blah blah article"
for formatting
onyx river
You can edit templates with the visual editor, but it’s a bit wonky
viscid sage
or you could just forgo that and have it display like "click here" no matter what
cinder kestrel
The stuff on the right currently says, "To see this subject's article on the Below Zero Wiki, click here."
With the only customizable thing being the link.
viscid sage
okay sorry I'm just confused
is there a parameter for including a "the" or an "s" after things that are plural so they make sense
cinder kestrel
Anyway, so far, I've only found one article that needed the first parameter specified. Random fact on my progress.
is there a parameter for including a "the" or an "s" after things that are plural so they make sense
Yes: see the documentation.
viscid sage
awesome
cinder kestrel
That is, the bottom of https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Template:SubnauticaLink.
onyx river
That’s a lot of curly brackets
cinder kestrel
I think they're all necessary.
onyx river
I don’t understand most of template creation, so I cant contest that
Ill go read the help page, assuming there is one
viscid sage
I can work on fleshing out the documentation a bit if needd
cinder kestrel
Go ahead.
agile spindle
ima be honest i couldve fixed the template and documented it in like 15 mins tops
this really isnt a 3 person job
cinder kestrel
I fixed it in about two and then stopped contributing prettily to it.
I'll make the documentation look good later if no one else does.
viscid sage
workin on it
agile spindle
@viscid sage just so you are aware good documentation includes use of the {{Documentation}} template
viscid sage
Yep, got it 👍
dreamy holly
Hey can somone take some pics of the Fab Base, I just realized it does not have any pictures
lusty hearth
Sure.
I'm currently in a zoom meeting, so I'll do it in a bit.
Also since when did the fabricator base move to the methane ice caves.
(In trivia)
onyx river
And since when does a t get capitalized out of no where
lusty hearth
That line of trivia looks invalid to me.
onyx river
Delete time
lusty hearth
Unless someone can prove otherwise.
onyx river
I’ll take it out for now
lusty hearth
Epic
dreamy holly
I think the Fab Base was PLANNED to be put in the biome on Favro
lusty hearth
Link?
dreamy holly
IDK I just remember somthing along the lines of that
In old history it says Crystal Caves and Methane Caves once
@lusty hearth Found something https://favro.com/organization/35200a08dbbad85b26102638/dad3eff69a723652e793bece?card=Unk-3474
lusty hearth
I see.
heady gulch
heres something weird i noticed
the spawn id for the toycar is deprecated
if you do item toycar it gives you this,
onyx river
How do you spawn them then?
heady gulch
still takes up the exact amount of inventory space, same icon and description
i have no idea
if i try to do spawn toycar it doesnt work
so i checked the one here and its actually working.
dreamy holly
weird