#šwiki-discussion
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Oh, well
It's gone now.
For roleplaying and for being created by a blocked user (just pretend that the latter is a valid reason--or not).
I will also make a separate post to address it
for the sake of classification, im counting anything related to playing a part of another creature, pretending to be part of a non existent group for example: "a representative of [fauna name]" and other similar things as roleplay.
I've been thinking.
Roleplaying is generally played poorly
Either that's a trap and all roleplaying is of poor quality (which might be true) or it isn't a great reason.
not all roleplaying is of poor quality
the idea that casual roleplay exists implies the existence of serious or professional roleplaying
also known as movie acting and LARP
just like the existance of silly putty implies the existence of serious putty
we call that C4
Now where have heard that before...
but regardless the standard for what counts as roleplay on the wiki should be anything pertaining to essentially the world of pretend
in the sense of pretending to be part of a group of fauna, or part of the subnautica universe in particular.
on either a full blown dedicated level or just casually.
I agree with the standard of what/does not count.
the war i would say is inbetween dedicated and casual.
and honestly the reason im calling this the standard is a lot of people do what i consider casually on the wiki and fly under the radar since its "not serious or extreme enough"
I think that we should ask tueman if we can put that standard into guidelines law to make it a bit more aparent
š yes mister wiki man
honestly, as a furry and someone who used to have a lot of free time on my hands, I do a lot of roleplaying in my off-time.
so I understand it decently as well as what exactly can count as it.
But if they wanna do this stuff they need to do this on a separate- š - wiki
hey @heady gulch a question
Mr wiki man return to destiny 2 pls
yes i will in uhhh 20 minutes alz
i have seen furrys and i think that's super cool and expensive
ask in #off-topic please
oh yeah sorry
I would take that to dms or something
"Mister Wiki Man" sounds like a good song title.
I second that
It does. Thank you!
A play on mr. Sandman
agent wiki 47
. . . or that.
Wiki man claims there are more wiki men
But we should definitely define what roleplay counts as/ the bare minimum for what classifies as "Roleplay" in the guidelines a bit better to drive the point of what we wont tolerate
Aw, we switched the SN wiki over to that new format to?
But I liked the recent wiki activity page
Me too, now itās all compressed and bleh
I hope that for the alternative they just bring it back, cause I just do not like the new compressed format.
That would be nice
Alright so I think the migration broke the Reaper Leviathan gallery
Might just be on my end tho
Nope itās broken
the migration broke a bunch on the bz wiki too, so there are probably other ones
Lemme see how the BZ wiki formats it, case basically the entire cut content page is messed up
Ah, shoot thatās a lot of images
so problem, the bz wiki changes absolutely nothing about gallery formatting
Also, some pages are messed up while others aren't
Ghost Leviathan page is fine
Yeah, itās weird
I think the migration is still in progress, so don't try fixing it yet
maybe it'll sort out on it's own
Okay, I removed the alignment and stuff and the reaper leviathan gallery fixed
But all the images are tiny
what happens if you re-add it?
check
That's something Tueman or Xdcer need to do
Also, something interesting, when you edited the gallery, you only edited the first one, but it fixed all of them on the page
yes
though the bz wiki never had them in the first place since the sounds were organized in an understandable manner
Interesting... I dunno how to fix that one
Well, we either start a community project to organize the creature sounds, which could take a long time but would be useful
Or we find an alternative to displaying the soundcloud, maybe a template
I mean, weāre doing all the images, why not sounds too
Oh no
Iām thinking, Iāve never recorded just sounds, how would you do that?
The way I'd do it is I'd stick by the creature, listen for a sound, then listen to all the sounds sequentially until I find the exact one I heard
it's a long way but it's a sure way
you could also just record the creature in game then do the same thing
really you don't need to, you could extract the audio files
Let me find the tutorial I used
Oh, well Iām no help there, I have sn on my Xbox
Most likely. I'll probably start on my own later today
The easiest ones are the warpers as far as I know
and the little robo thing in the pcf
Oh yay, these are broken too
you gotta be kiddin me
sob
So none of our sounds work now, great
well it's something we can't fix, so we'll have to wait for one of the admins to get on
Picls2, do you edit with the source editor or visual editor
Source
Alright good, I have something you can do if you're willing
Sure
I need you to go across as many wiki pages as you can, and if they're using just <gallery>, switch it to <gallery widths="200" spacing="small">, cause just doing gallery is making them tiny with this new update
Sure
Lemme eat lunch first though
i always forget you have a bot
"We" being "ask admins because they."
lmao
well if you want to, you can do it with the bot, since that's a lot of pages
Speaking of which, is the bot marked as a bot on the new interface?
since it hides bot messages by default from the recent activity list
I don't see why it wouldn't be marked as a bot.
Yeah it is
ah alright
So... am I doing it manually or are you hooking up SLSbot
@cinder kestrel
I'm hoping to find a third method of making it the default setting.
that makes sense, though the BZ wiki just uses <gallery widths="200" spacing="small"> for everything
most enthusiastic whee I've ever seen
I can tell SLS is really excited
So good news, sounds are working again. Bad news, they look ugly
yeepers screepers
They're still broken on the BZ wiki though
Did y'all ever decide on whether you wanted this chat to be moved to Community and Creative section?
Not yet (I think).
Interesting, some are broken, some are ugly but none are fixed
This just keeps getting worse
normally I'd blame the wiki migration but it broke on both wikis, so they changed something about file display formatting
Oh, interesting I reloaded the page and theyāre broken now
Iāll check the help pages, it might say something there
On the ones that work, that menu shows this
Bottom right has a little new logo, so I think they changed how their files display by default and that overrode our changes to it
I just noticed if I reload, they take the shape they originally had been before reverting to the ugly rectangle
Personally, I prefer the rectangle.
The colour is still white though, interesting
Maybe it's cause I'm use to the old one, but man it just feels really off
I view the non-rectangle as bulky and the rectangle as compact in a good way.
I guess I can see that, but I still feel it should have the rounded edges and be colored right
It's meant to fit with the SN aesthetic
I find it a bit harder on the eyes when itās compact
We could always upload the sounds and playlists to SoundCloud and link that
Actually, the sound cloud links are broken, never mind
I think that's too much work for something we can fix once someone who knows how to edit this stuff-
also that
Can we possibly impliment this if it isn't too difficult?
@heady gulch (or another admin) anomnum wants dev:WikiActivity.js added to https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/MediaWiki:ImportJS (and its counterpart on the other wiki).
You can do it for yourself right now, if you want.
How
Ok, thanks
I'll refrain from doing it that way unless I'm told we're not going to add the wiki activity
but it's good to know that's there
Iām not going to mess anymore with it, I literally have no idea what Iām doing
Apparently we can get wiki activity back using the JavaScript
there are more than one gun island confirmd
There's only one. And this wiki-discussion.
@cinder kestrel I put dev:WikiActivity.js into my personal js (though I have no idea if thatās what I was supposed to do), how do I actually access it
i craped myself
Did you read the two articles both anomnum and myself linked to?
Yeah, I activated my personal js but Ill reread the m
there is only one gun in the game but there is multiple in the lore, so that way the planet is covered
No, there's only one in the world and in the lore. Besides, wiki-discussion is probably not the best place to talk about this.
Ooh, i see now, yeah Iāll just wait
#below-zero-chat but I think you can, I could be wrong
I found out you cant get it get that on the wiki @onyx river
Ok
it has happened
What has happened?
merged the sn wiki with gamepedia
It doesn't affect us much, but I suppose it's still a good thing.
merged the sn wiki with gamepedia
Oh no
Did it merge all those ancient pages on gamepedia into the sn wiki?
Last I checked sn gamepedia so old it still thinks the botanical analysis machine is coming
Robin's wiki page still mentions here blue dye in her hair and her old voice actor
i just updated the update history page, may need some review
That's not how mergers work.
You see, two communities decide what they want to do with their lives and staff helps them move pages from one wiki to another (based on what the communities decide to do). In this case, the Subnautica Wiki on Fandom was better in pretty much every way, so nothing was formally moved.
They effectively replaced the wiki with #REDIRECT Subnautica Wiki on Fandom but in a way that doesn't hurt SEO.
Because I'm assuming that having a banner is considered better than making subnautica.gamepedia.com automatically redirect to subnautica.fandom.com.
If that's true, I wonder how old this is.
Ah, yes. I remember posting this a month ago.
list them
one sec
Exploration Site= Material Analysis Station
Fish Trap= Marine Life Analyzer
Statue= Alien Statue
Monument= Array Module
Precursor Cable= Architect Cable
Water Analyzer= Water Analysis Station
cable or cabling?
cabling
so Architect Cabling is the new name right
Have fun. :þ
Done
Ebic
Except for those stray links hidden in the text.......
Also unrelated, does anybody know what is wrong with my Deep Lily Flowers?
wait let me make it a png sry
purple
thx
Anyway, it sounds like there's no way to change the default settings for galleries, so I'll just use the bot.
now i have a random png file downloading
The big update was what is called addressables. So that changes the way we load and unload objects in the game world. It will improve loading in and out of the world but can cause some weird things to break.
Basically there was a large update that redownloaded all the game's assets, which caused some of the other assets to break.
yeah that makes sense, just making sure they were not redoing the pollen texture
This is just to confirm that I am about to replace all Gallery tags with <gallery widths="200" spacing="small"> on both wikis per request.
@edgy lagoon (Or anyone else) Did you notice any gallery tags in articles that should be left as they are, or should all of them be replaced with this?
Any ones that are <gallery> should be changed. If they were a unique case, they would have different parameters
Okay.
I am assuming this is on both wikis?
Yes.
ok cool
And while doing my research (in which I was told that this was the best method), I learned that the default width was changed from 200 to 120.
Did you want to watch me do the Below Zero Wiki next?
Watch you? no!
I trust you
Nah, it'd just be for the fun of watching my screen and seeing exactly what I'm doing.
I never even talked about watching you in the first place lol
I talked about it in the first place.
why would you want or expect me to see your screen exactly
If you're curious as to what bot editing looks like.
I dont really care, I just do stuff manual
Finger exercise
@cinder kestrel sry i thought you talking in sarcasm because you thought I was being paranoid about the gallery change
you thought I was being paranoid about the gallery change
I did?
Uh Wiki editors.
Yes?
The map
Mhm?
Up-to-date interactive Subnautica and Subnautica: Below Zero map of biomes, resources, lifepods, wrecks and all the other points of interests and collectibles.
Of the celectricit
thing
what?
That's not something we maintain, is it?
It is with me and i am below 250 meters.
Nope it's not.
But if there's something that's correct about the map and incorrect about us . . .
Who even edits that, the SBZ one is dated as heck
Speaking of which, I need to update the Sector Zero map image.
the map person gets their info from the wiki
It's a tad bit outdated.
i mean in little things, like databoxes or PDAs
no
the leviathan
thats supossed to be at 35 meters.
is down with me here at 250-300 meters.
;-,
you realise that leviathans move
It's almost as if they can move.
and they have not even added the caves yet, so now theres just random Shadow Leviathans on the map lol
ok? hi cheli?
Also shouldn't you be addressing this in #below-zero-chat, Zakaria?
I mean he thought that wiki editors maintain the map so its not entirely his fault
Fair enough.
I did.
Ah, I see.
So like
I though you guys are supossed to atleast know the dept of it.
Like 35-400 meters.
not just 35 meters.
well they dont. If they did I would have a wave of updates incoming
I though you guys are supossed to atleast know the dept of it.
@neat cove no, as nice as that would be to do I do not believe any of us are birdwatchers.
okay.
could you guys just put like it can go to 35-300 meters?
Because I was out of my seatruck
And it attacked me
xd
what?
No, as far as I know we just record the spawn position of the creature.
to get that kind of information we need to be watching a leviathan for possibly hours to freeze the game, and check the furthest it can go down by using freecam/ghost to get down to its position.
on top of this as far as I am aware sometimes, fauna, and leviathans will give quite a chase.
couldn't you just look at the games code or smth
xd
meaning leaving their dedicated patrol zone to chase you until at some point they retreat back into the area where they were scripted too.
I dont think they are allowed to do that.
ok im just gonna clarify. we dont edit the map, and we dont put depth of things on the page for the map
who does then.
the people who edit the map
the people who made the map
I dont think they are allowed to do that.
as far as im aware thats the reason sometimes stalkers are in the safe shallows patroling one spot instead of their intended biome.
these people edit the sn map
@MinMaxGG
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they arent in the discord server ;-;
they have a discord server
they are not on the discord, they just link the wiki for info
Plus what biome are you even in?
the chelicerate in the arctic im pretty sure
purple vents
oh nevermind
to be frank I dont even know why there is any sort of info for leviathan depth.
The gallery stuff is finished.
pog
they'll chase you up to the surface and to the bottom of the seafloor as long as you are in their area.
GG SLScool
Yes: I have good grammar.
your grammer stinky
so honestly, unless it has to pertain to the void or caves, Information on leviathan depth is pretty irrelevant
Depth is pretty dumb seeing as any leviathan can chase you to any depth until you hit a celing/floor
floot
depth matters if you're in a cave that just goes deeper and on a map where you're paranoid of being jumped by a leviathan, knowing what depth level you're probably gonna see it at makes a big difference.
but anything at surface level is pretty much irrelevant
On the map, we have the cave maps that gray out the marker. on the page we have Y level
there ya go, so already its not too big of an issue then
It never was lol
@lusty hearth i dont know how much effort it is, but would it be better if the Frozen River section of the map was instead Outpost Zero.
Oh god that's the one part of the map I didn't want to touch.
I'm aware the Frozen River isn't supposed to be accessible and I would rename it Outpost Zero but the coloured regions represent biomes and not locations, so I left it as is.
I guess if the rest of the wiki editors all agreed to rename that area to outpost zero, then I'd comply.
I have an image where frozen river's replaced with outpost zero, I just haven't posted it anywhere yet.
the fact that I managed to be bugged by the one thing you did not want anyone to talk about is hilarious
i just found it questionable due to the interactive map refers to the area as Outpost Zero
i proably should not be chatting about this at midnight lol
'Tis only 8:57 pm for me. 
laughs in 3pm 
PST master race
cool........OH AND I also spent like 15 minutes looking at time zones to predict the state you live in to look smart.......California?
mayhaps
Do cave crawlers and blood crawlers use the same sounds?
I'll check.
@edgy lagoon I dont think so
California is the biggest state in the Pacific Time Zone both area-wise and population-wise, so that's a good guess.
@cinder kestrel
@edgy lagoon
Just checked, Blood and Cave Crawlers don't have the same sounds.
hm
that might complicate things
Guess I'll have to sort the jump sounds as well
Here's what I've sorted so far. I haven't touched the terribly named ones yet. The only ones I've completed are the Alien Robot, the Warper, the Gasopod (minus like two sounds), and maybe the Peeper.
And Skyrays, I don't think they have any more sounds
If a structure has unique ambient audio, do y'all think we should add it to their page?
In this case I mean the Wrecks, since I just found the ambient audio for them
@edgy lagoon why not add the ambiance to the wreck page? it wont really affect anything
I want to, but I'm asking first since that might effect other pages too
how would it affect other pages?
if it really is a risk to other pages then it is not really that important
Not risking them, mor like something that would extend beyond the page I'm asking to change
I'll need to verify a specific file in the morning with you then
Does wreak_music.wav in Env_Background 1 count as music?
are we going to add the wiki activity or do i need to figure out how to add it to my personal view?
Also, when we get the chance, we need to fix the SN Wiki's table color, it got changed to this kinda off-putting grey during the migration. It was better as Black.
I can't playback the audio I just added cause it's all broken lmao
It seems, for the most part, the audio works outside the SoundTable template
But inside it appears to be broken
yo has anyone tried the new subnautica below zero update?
Um, this is #šwiki-discussion
Unless humby is implying that that the wiki isn't up-to-date with this update.
@edgy lagoon You were saying?
I was just gonna mention that I'm updating the I Compartment pics because I'm pretty sure they're still the pictures from the update that added them
Also SLS can you do me a favor
Rename Basic Compartment to I Compartment?
What is that thing in the middle?
modded thing
To be safe, I checked the name without mods, and it is still I Compartment. It got changed at some point.
Is this considered advertising
Why does that exist.
because they got in trouble for roleplaying on the sn wiki
@heady gulch can you rename a page for me
Is this considered advertising
@onyx river I gave them my blessing to post that a few times, if they go too many I will tell them to stop
okay
All things considered itās better that they have that up to redirect any new possible roleplayers away, less work on our side, but, if another admin wants to contest the decision, then I will tell the user itās advertising
@heady gulch can you rename a page for me
@edgy lagoon which page. Iām not sure how to make redirects so if your trying to do that
oh wait actually
you just reminded me there's already a redirect
I can just flip them around
Yeah, when it comes down to those things thatās kind of outta my field
I can do it, no worries, I forgot they already had one for this page.
Apparently it was named I Compartment before, but they changed it to Basic Compartment at some point, and now it's I Compartment again
Any instance of Basic Compartment, if you see it, please rename it to I Compartment
Bot time.
Any articles that are exempt from this beside the article itself?
Because I assume the article should not be ruthlessly changed on account of wanting to keep a history on that article.
No article specific, but the icon is still named Basic Compartment, so Idk if that will cause conflicts
I can upload a duplicate with the proper name if that will fix it
And is this for both wikis or just one?
Just SN
I'll see if the images break after the bot does it's thing, and if they do, I can fix it pretty fast
Did you want to watch me livestream my bot software so you can know what it looks like just for the fun of it?
sure why not
I'm intrigued.
Alright. Time to reset all my progress and start again because why not.
It was only a minute or two of progress.
why does the public voice chat not let you talk what
I don't want to try unmuting, so I don't know.
It's push-to-talk.
I'm chatting about it in #voice-chat-text , but I'm not saying much.
Aw shoot, I missed it
If you can think of something else for me to do with the bot, I can stream it again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser if you want full information.
I think we still need a good bit of <gallery> switched to <gallery widths="200" spacing="small"> if you're up for it
Alright, I'll continue with a few notes in #šwiki-discussion .
You may have noticed I had what looked like two accounts to log in with.
I think I saw that
On the legacy platform, you simply entered your username and password.
On both Wikipedia and the UCP, you use something called a Bot Username and a Bot Password.
Ah, i think Iāve seen that in the special pages
The Bot Username is structured [Actual username]@[Whatever creative label you want to give it] (I use SLSbot@SLSbot, but I could also do SLSbot@Deleting pages.
When creating a Bot Password, you log in with your bot account to a Fandom wiki (just like you would with your regular account) and you specify what can and cannot be done using that password (e.g., you enable basic editing and moving articles but disable deleting articles). This is mostly done for security reasons.
So you specify the parameters and the system gives you the password abc8r2395a-385r939692952-acbd7f9 or whatever.
And you use that to log in with your account.
huh
This is mostly doen for security reasons.
For example: at your workplace, you like to edit articles but not delete/move/protect them. You want to call thisSLSbot@BasicWorkand only grant yourself those basic editing abilities. You can edit articles but you can't delete/move/protect them from your work computer.
Your boss comes along, browses your saved profiles on your computer, and finds your bot password (if that's possible). Because you're using a bot password, they don't have access to your account. Because that bot password only grants them a few abilities, they can't do a whole lot of vandalism on the wiki.
It's not necesarily one-time; you can reuse it. But you specify what can and cannot be done using that password.
So you could have multiple passwords depending on what you want to do
But you can very easily delete bot passwords, so if it gets stolen, you can make it so it doesn't work without affecting anything else. Your work computer won't work but your home computer and your laptop still do.
Interesting, almost like a credit card number
If you're feeling risky and dangerous, you can have one bot password with all your permissions and use it everywhere.
And it's better than using your regular password. Your bot password only works with editing, while your regular password lets you log in to your account on fandom.com just like you guys all normally do.
Oh, by the way SLS, do you have perms to edit the wiki's theme colors?
I think that's just for admins, but I'll check.
Only admins and above can use https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Special:ThemeDesigner.
Dang
was asking cause man these new colors for the tables look so out of place to me
this is what that would look like with the old colors
Oh, yeah that needs to be fixed
Iām glad we got that image overhaul done before the ucp since they removed the multiple upload
Ugh
I'm pretty sure it adds them as [[File:blahblah.png]] directly, and doesn't give a choice as to what label you want to give it (such as giving it the Copyrighted Content one that all the extracted files have)
If we wanted to we could make the tables black directly
@heady gulch to make a redirect just replace the page content with ā#REDIRECT [[ActualPage]]ā with actual page being the one you want to redirect to
I'll make a note of that, thanks tueman
I think keeping them contrasted that little bit helps them stand out as a table
hm
Only problem is that unless we can get an admin to change the css weāll have to do all of the tables directly or we could use the bot
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/I_Compartment?action=history now looks good (except for the byte differences of the last two entries).
For the record: please don't copy-paste article content to rename articles. If you do this, I'll have to repaste this message with even more information.
(This is when you ask why and I and tell you about https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Renaming_pages)
Sorry, I walked away for a while, I got company
Guess the bot doesn't cover templates.
It does; I just didn't tell it to cover anything beyond articles.
Ah
I just went into the game and found a bunch of renames
I edited the pages to replace old names with new. Here's a list of what I found: Twisty Bridges Coral Shelf -> Shelf Coral, Thermal Spire -> Hydrothermal Spire, Purple Vent -> Fumarole, Architect Crystal -> Large Emerald, Temperate Crystal -> Ice Stalagmites, Thermal Vent -> Hydrothermal Vent
Looking at the Below Zero Wiki's Recent Changes, I found--seven changes.
Or rather, seven articles with "name change." in the summary.
Inb4 the biome is renamed to Fumaroles
Yeah, sorry I didn't say anything about that beforehand
Time for another AutoWikiBrowser (bot) stream?
Funny enough, when I made the Purple Vent page I noted how the structures resembled fumaroles before they were renamed to fumaroles.
I remember that being on that page
Time for another AutoWikiBrowser (bot) stream?
Sure.
Oh also yellow/orange trivalve has been renamed Gold Trivalve
if we need renames i need a succinct list containing previous name and new name
The Move Log, I suppose.
Except for when you're the only content moderator/admin online and you need to rename stuff yourself.
Relics Of The Past update video, along with Salad Days and Stranger Pings should probably be added to the front page, the most recent is frostbite
@onyx river whatre you doin with the common.js and common.css on your profile pages
I added can add some js to my personal page to still use wiki activity, but only for me, the css is just so I know which edits are mine
Yeah
Rename for Snow Stalker Baby to Juvenile Snowstalker
Also just for a possible trivia section, does anybody else think that the "Alien Imposter" game/poster mentioned in SBZ could be a reference to Among Us
Which came first?
I actually have no idea
I terms of early acess, SBZ came first, but I have no idea when the poster idea and dialouge was made
Among us came first (June 15, 2018)
yes, but it was kinda nothing then
yea
If the whole Alien Intruder game is not a refrence then im guessing it could be inspired by other games from the same genre as Among Us but they put it in space, which if that is the case is kinda funny that they even managed to come to there heads
or just.... anything with an imposter. even the game among us is (seemingly) based on a movie from years ago. the alien imposter thing has been a fear of humanity since long before the game
fair, but in some PDAs, Sam, Parvan, Zeta, Fred, and that other guy express it basically as a game where one of the people is a Alien Imposter, and lies through desception as shown through lines such as when Parvan says something like āDo you think I would want to miss when Fred is revealed to be the Alien Imposterā
anyways this is not important at all and we should all proably stop talking about
also @onyx river how do i change it to wiki activity PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!
I legit thought it meant they believed someone on the team was an alien
Parvan is a devil ngl
nope, just a game
Read the link that I reposted
The dunes page gallery isn't formatted correctly
@rigid jacinth fixed
aight thx
It's not a direct reference to Among Us, but rather just games in that genre. We had a sci-fi version of Mafia or Werewolf in mind when adding it in. (Fun fact: We're all huge fans of Werewolf at UWE and play it a ton whenever we get together in person.)
cool thx
nice
added a refrence and trivia to the poster page about Donyas comment
Why did they remove the multiple uploads page?
because fandom
we can add back the wiki activity page, but I'm not sure about the multi upload page
https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/MultiUpload This is an option, but only for personal use
Other than that, there is the option to upload multiple files while editing an article, but it sucks so
Page that needs to be renamed:
Glacial Tree -> Frosted Acacia
š
Dear lord almighty I misread the name it's Frost Acacia not Frosted Acacia
please double check the names before you tell me to move a page
is the wiki down for anyone else
alright it fixed
@onyx river By the way, what pages do I need to edit for the wiki activity thing?
Sorry, I was in class
You have to edit your personal js page it should be called User:AnomalyDetected/common.js
If you havenāt created the page yet youāll have to do that https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Personal_CSS_and_JS
If I do it on the global page, will it work for every UCP wiki?
It might, I didnāt try because I tried with my css and it didnāt work
yea it worked
a lot of effort just for Wiki Activity
Itās just copy and pasting some code
I- Iām 98% sure Terran just copy pasted my js
Oh, well mine just died so I dunno whatās wrong
Don't worry it happened to me too
I think they edited it and it broke, so it should be fixed soon
Hopefully
Not gonna lie, I'm tempted to ask for the Gargantuan Leviathan page to be protected if that picture gets added one more time
nah I was referring to the first two times
Ah
Curse clickbait
is it weird i like to go through the history of pages and see the dumb stuff people made that was then undid
ĀÆ_(ć)_/ĀÆ
its fun looking at random kids change the gargantuans name to the Imperator becuase the just watched an Anthomia video
TIL tabbers are broken on mobile and have been for a while now with nothing done about it
wow thanks fandom
thats why ive been recommending to use them less
tabbers are just broken
on mine, they just undo themselves after an edit (which freaked me out at first) then rebuild themselves after the page resets
if it makes you feel better the majority of our users use pc
yeah I kinda wonder how much it matters considering that and all of the other weirdness with fandom mobile
Most templates are broken on mobile, they just show up as text, I dont think Navboxs even appear
I went on the wiki on fandom once and let me just say its just broken
What, the wikis always on fandom
TIL tabbers are broken on mobile and have been for a while now with nothing done about it
Tabbers are terrible on mobile in general across the internet; it's not exclusive to this platform. Fandom deals with the issue by sometimes giving the contents of the tabs one after the other and sometimes it only shows the content of the first tab (don't know when each one happens).
Tabbers are only okay on desktop.
I went on the wiki on fandom once and let me just say its just broken
The Fandom App (which is basically the mobile skin), or . . . ?
Anyway, how many of you guys have heard the term "portability" applied to Fandom/the wiki?
dont think TerranHawks tatics worked
He said he was just testing it
oh lol
picls2 I was gonna steal your js but I noticed it has three errors on it
those affect anything or do they work fine
The wiki activity works fine aside from the fact that itās still broken, I havenāt tried the multiple uploads yet
If you could point the errors out to me that would be great, Im pretty bad at js
i mean it shows all three on the side, just click the warning labels
Huh, mine doesnāt have any warning triangles
let me paste it on mine show I can show you what it says
I can't open them on someone else's for some reason
all three say this
on a sidenote, is the wiki activity still broken for you?
Nope, it seems to be fixed and upgraded for me
sicc
Considering https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/WikiActivity/usage the lines above should be:
window.rwaOptions.limit = 500; // 50 by default.
window.rwaOptions.namespaces = [110]; // [ 0, 1 ,2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 110, 111, 500, 501, 828, 829 ] by default, only 110 here will reduce the number of namespaces you're using.
window.rwaOptions.autoInit = true; // It's true by default, doesn't change anything.
Ah, i see, the js for multiple uploads may not work on ucp
Thatās unfortunate
Ack what happened to the databanks
Add a space somewhere that it won't affect it, then save the edit
it reloads the gallery and fixes that
As for databanks, that's because the default table colors got changed in the port to UCP, so it looks ugly
the update seems to have broken the table and databank background colours
the thing is, databanks are based off the tables afaik
so we can fix them all in one go?
yeah
they'd have to directly edit the wiki's theme colors
gah
the wiki activity works for me but it takes a ridiculous amount of time to load
ok once again for poster trivia. i know the reaper poster is a fan made one, and I pretty sure the Sea Dragon is too, but I cant find the orignal drawing anywhere
poster trivia?
I assume for the poster page on the bz wiki
Did you try looking up that image on Google? Because I did, and I can answer your question.
This isn't a very good comparison picture. They aren't aligned at either end and it's not in the great void of the universe (unless that's intentional).
2021
januar?y
We dunno
ok so exited
sometime early 2021
I think I found another underaged dude. I cant comfirm it, but his description literally says āIām 8 years old Iām a fan of subnaticaā https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/User:Reaperboi123
I-, wait a minute
@onyx river what?
Okay, I was seeing if they had actually made recent posts
Because that account could have been 5 years old
He literally did some weird edit to the Reaper page today
Ah
thats how i just randomly found his account lol
His account is actually very recent
What was the edit?
@mossy pine he Added the grab damage to the āAffiliationā area of the infobox
but thats not the reason I mentioned him
sigh @sudden dove
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I was robbed
sorry Tuna
thanks artyom
ill go back to my corner 
Why do I feel like im missing something to understand this
because you are
exactly, thats what i meant
Lol. Spammer. Arty got them before I could.
even after i helped you out, tsk tsk
I have shamed my ancestors.
now go beg for forgiveness
Wow ok
I cant comfirm it
If the user made an edit less than 48 hours ago saying that they are--eh, I'll just go ahead andSpecial:Contactit and stop with explaining how it's confirmed.
yeah, im learning how to tell the age of people on a website, yeah
(joke)
@cinder kestrel I was just being careful and all seeing as this was my first report
Would you also like to report the user to Fandom staff?
Would telling you how to do that make you change your mind?
i mean i would report it to you guys cause as i said āFirst Reportā
aka i dont know how lol
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Contact , "please contact us" link, choose one (I typically go with "I am reporting a problem on Fandom"), fill in your information, maybe say "Underage User" in the subject, maybe "The user [username] is underage at [link to the edit the user made, or else link to their profile]"--that's all you need to do.
That's what you do.
@agile spindle why?
why what
āhi cutieā
for my gf
This seems obvious
@onyx river what?
I-, the conversation you were just having
yeah what about it
nevermind
my brain is the size of the peanut
i can see
we can all see, we have eyes
correct
here's evidence he was underage
oh wait i just looked at his block log its been handled
nvm
i already said his description said that anyways, so you posted that for nothing lol
i sent his account name and the evidence to FANDOM and his account is already closed lol
took five minutes
i already said his description said that anyways, so you posted that for nothing lol
@dreamy holly i decided a screenshot maybe needed in case he changed it
if he changes it it'll be in his edit history
Hes right. User pages have a edit history
user pages are pretty much unprotected and are like normal pages im guessing since anyone can edit them unless protected
Yeah i dont understand that, User pages should proably be protected to everyone but the user if it is against the rules to edit anothers anyways
but hey, Fandom
I do not know how page protection works in specifics or if you can make it so only certain user(s) can edit it other than administration or moderators
Ethier do I, if I understood it I bet my opinion would differ a lot
Its a nice idea but, if its something youd have to set manually for users, that would take a while,
and if user pages appeared in any lists of protected pages on the wiki, im guessing thatll also be a mess to sort
exactly what I meant by āif I understood it, my idea would differā
ye
would it be a good idea to put the amount of health a baby ghost has on the ghost leviathan wiki page thingo
since they have much less health than the adults (adults have 8k, babies only have 3k)
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Ghost_Leviathan this part is kinda broken
also why does everything on the wiki look so much better now
was there like an update or smth
yea
would it be a good idea to put the amount of health a baby ghost has on the ghost leviathan wiki page thingo
@fervent folio probably
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Ghost_Leviathan this part is kinda broken
@fervent folio yea i noticed that, but idk how to fix it
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Ghost_Leviathan this part is kinda broken
@fervent folio yes, we know itās broken but have absolutely no idea how to fix it
why is that page protected, i can't edit it now @agile spindle
what page
Ghost leviathan I guess
its not protected
Nope, itās only semi protected
yea which usually only affects day 1 users
maybe it affects him cause his account was blocked before
Yeah, it looks like it can be set to do that
So someone keeps adding what Iām pretty sure is false info to https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Prawn_Suit_Jump_Jet_Upgrade
Just wanted to let you know in case this goes any farther
first things first
Yeah I saw that, I think they will stop after a while. If they take it to far i bet one Mod undoing it will fix them
mention of grapple hook shouldnt even be in the body text, if they were going to do something like "this is one of the mobility upgrades along with the prawn suit grapple hook arm."
tell them to time it then.
I had a hunch that the tools like repair tool repaired faster if using the ion batteries, i did a time check, it didnt.
IF what they say is true, tell them to prove it with a list of exact heights it can travel at.
Its just some rando thinking he knows something false. He will give up eventually
And last time I checked upgrades dont stack. Especially this one
i cant play any of the audio thingos
For what i know the ucp messed up basiclly all the audio and soundcloud links, plus some gallerys
f
Well, we fixed the galleries, but all the audio is broken
some of the gallerys, there is a dumb amount that are still busted on lesser pages. Heres the Cover Tree for example
also sunbeam radio message times are wrong
afaik first message is around 2 days after you repair the radio
sigh itās outdated, hey doggo wanna become a wiki editor
Thats nothing caused by the ucp, just edit the correct times
Thats nothing caused by the ucp, just edit the correct times
@dreamy holly ik
If you know them then feel free to edit them
sigh itās outdated, hey doggo wanna become a wiki editor
idk like anything about editing the wiki so-
nah
Okay, is that the only one thatās wrong
Welp, time for someone to start a Subnautica letsplay
Okay, is that the only one thatās wrong
@onyx river im not sure
Okay, Iāll fix that one then
time to go test in game
I have never seen this one before
thats from early access
Thatās outdated
is there any newer replacement i should know for it
Lifepod 7 is also missing 1 of the triggers
you can also get that radio message by going to the aurora prawn bay
lol
not the first time
Iām just to fast for you š
one day your going to make a new page and I am going to end up making a duplicate because I saw the new feature too
A lot of the stuff on the sn wiki is outdated, but no one realized it is, so all of a sudden with the ups, everything breaks so weāre like, hey thatās not right
I mean, we had pictures from 2016
Both of the wikis were busted, the SBZ wiki just recovered quicker
Yeah because itās more actively edited
And we didnāt use the SoundCloud templates
Really? to me the SBZ wiki is a ghostwiki right now
right now, but compare it to the sn wiki and itās like comparing New York to the middle of the Atlantic
at least until the devs push out a mass name change
If the devs dont do any post release updates then the SBZ wiki will be just as quite when it is released
Probably
Also seeing as I have watched many Subnautica BZ letsplays, this game is not getting as much attention as Subnautica did
lmao
i got the 4th sunbeam message on day 9, which according to the wiki is when you get the 1st message
definitely wrong lol
Lol
yea
oh i missread
ok
Do you have all the dates?
message 1 - day 4
message 2 - day 4
message 3 - day 7
message 4 - day 9
at least when you repair the radio first day
imma look at the some older playthroughs and see if its the same
wow
Wait, 1 and 2 are both day 4?
apparently
*confusion*
in another playthrough i got
message 1 - day 3
message 2 - day 4
message 3 - day 6
message 4 - day 8
i can't
but i think i know someone in the server who could
Relic?
ye
imma just
use a stopwatch to time it
you can check when you'll receive scheduled events in game with the command schedule
Repair the radio, then immediately run the command. It should, hopefully, provide the exact time it should take to receive, which can then be calculated into days.
I added it when I found out about it
It was at the same time when I moved the Leak and Lock commands to Cut Content
yea first sunbeam message is 40, aka 2 days, after you repair the radio
Alright, then just test the rest in sequential order.
You may need to end up rounding but it should be straightforward
subnautica kept crashing, so i couldn't do the rest, ill try again soon
also, is the amount of damage the prawn suit claw arm dose listed anywhere on the wiki
bc it does 50 damage, and can punch every second
according to game codeā¢ļø
lmao
i got the 4th sunbeam message on day 9, which according to the wiki is when you get the 1st message
definitely wrong lol
@fervent folio There is no global, time-based trigger in this game.
The delay is dependent on what you do first. And you should add that the radio itself has a queue system.
So speaking about days from the start, or since you repaired the radio is just non-sense.
oh ok, im not sure what like half of that means, but by doing goal radio radiosunbeamstart and radiosunbeam2, 3 and 4 and the schedule command
it says the first message is 40 minutes
second is 10 minutes
third is 40 minutes, and forth is also 40 minutes
Imagine you repair the radio, you trigger a few things. Now, you lose yourself, and you go in grand reef. The radio message triggered when you reach grand reef will be higher in the queue than your Sunbeam one. Even if you'll have them at the same time, since the radio has a queue system you won't have it on the radio at the same moment.
And the Sunbeam message will not be at 10 or 40 minutes, but at your previous queue messages * 600 seconds.
In other words, it's highly dependent on the way you play.
Also, it depends on when you trigger the message on the radio.
What you do is, you suppose the player will stay inside his lifepod all the time, basically, triggering the radio message the moment they're on the radio and suppose they don't have any message in their queue.
Which is not the case.
so uh how would you list that on the wiki
You can write those delays, but you should specify that they're not the time players will encounter them, because other variables need to be taken into account. It's more like a minimal time.
It will be 40 + number of messages pending on the radio * 600 + the delay they trigger them on the radio itself.
What you have is the delays from the scheduler. The scheduler will trigger those story goals at that time. But the player will listen to those whenever they want & depending on the previous queue.
aight, thanks
does anyone know why were the developer menu keybinds removed from the https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Console_Commands wiki page, the keybind thingos (L1 + R1 on ps4 and LB + RB on xbox while paused, not sure if it exists on pc) still work
I just removed the time stamp for the sunbeam messages since thereās no absolute
Because those characters are from the events of below zero
Iāll change the header name though because thatās a bit confusing
I dunno, we just never made it I guess
ok
sorry for all the questions lol
"Alterran Capital Ship" isn't in the products list...
I'm don't think the Aurora was the only Alterran Capital Ship
since its a category
Can someone get some images for https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/All-Environment_Protection_Suit
Kinda, freecam images
In bz
k
http://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Guidelines#Pictures_and_Galleries if you don't remember/never learned the setup.
Itās fine, Iāll wait for for someone who can to come online
Okay
also, on the Subnatica Fandom it says Marguerit Maida is 42 years old but that was her age of disappearance... Since the Aurora crashed a decade after the Degasi wouldn't that make her 52?
or does it just say 42 because we don't know she's still alive
Because she was thought dead, thatās the used age
Ok
If it's currently 2020 and the game takes place in 2160 (sure, let's go with that), why isn't she negative 100-years-old?
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good point
hm
Wait, I understand now.
Lol, I thought you were joking
Wait, I understand now.
Either way I look at it, I don't like it.
xD
(At first, I thought you meant that we should update her age to match how old she'd be in Below Zero [which I should've realized wasn't what you referring to because the two games are not a decade apart])
Actually, it is unknown because we never know what happened to her
Just that she disappears
Why do I think I'll find a lot of edit warring about her status between "Presumed dead" instead of "Unknown" (ignoring wars between that and "alive") in the page history?
true
I'll see if I can learn anything from them--once I find them, that is.
It doesnāt even use databank entries
Yep
Ah, it looks like it was locked because someone added bz info to the page
And was never unlocked after
:/
We've had it as "missing, presumed dead," "presumed dead," and "unknown," and I'm not sure which one we want because the admins have changed it to all three of them at different points.
SLS, can you unlock the page or change those to databank entries, the names of the entries should be the same as the header names
Also, why isn't "Alterran Capital Ship" in the Alterra Products section?
Itās not a really a product
I mean, there's "Sunbeam's ship type" instead of just "Sunbeam"
Ah, what
K, I fixed it
Nice ;)
I'll go around looking for some lil things
Oh by the way, is there any page with every single character in Below zero?
not only Alterra
^
Oh hey, Xeno of youre up for it could you grab a few screenshots of https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/All-Environment_Protection_Suit
Sure.
š
I really hope they'll add characters and abandoned PDAs in the Mercury II
Hey there's someone missing in the Employees list on the Alterra Corporation page
on the Below Zero fandom
he's on the Subnautica wiki tho
Who...
Technician Hinkle
he was aboard the Aurora
he's on the Subnautica wiki
but not on the Below Zero wiki
Yep, fixed
Ah, yeah
noice
Thanks
Hey someone readded that Spiral Plants are found in the Deep Purple Vents, can someone quickly check if they still spawn by the Mercury II Thruster, im busy
whats the updated spawn id for crystal sulpher?
Um, this is #šwiki-discussion, but it should be sulphur
its not working
da hell are the OG's
why is this in https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Subnautica
The Ogās are just a bunch of kids who think they are ārevivingā the wikiās discussion forum and have been around for like, 3 months
The blog is just because someone added their blog to that category
dave
So any update on when the audio player is gonna be fixed
@neon mesa sorry for the ping, but we were having some trouble with the audio player for the wiki, do you have any info regarding that?
Hey, what
@neon mesa is what you want in life.
(I have no idea why your ping didn't work initially)
I just copy pasted it from an old message
And now, I feel like I should actually try to investigate the problem. On the other hand, I have about five minutes to do so before I go back to whatever work I was doing, so maybe later if it's still unfixed.
da hell are the OG's
@fervent folio They're people who are actually stupid and think they've been around forever.
The Ogās are just a bunch of kids who think they are ārevivingā the wikiās discussion forum and have been around for like, 3 months
@onyx river Exactly
Now now, letās not go insulting people
Thatās okay, I donāt need to see it
I just said...
