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agile spindle
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elder scrolls wiki does it like that for basically everything

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its a lot of disambiguation but easy to navigate

dreamy holly
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fair, but i still think it would be confusing for people who just picked up the game. Plus people have done so much work on the BZ wiki as a seprate wiki it would be odd to suddenly switch it all up

agile spindle
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well with the gamepedia merge its actually a pretty good time

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if we have to end up fixing a few templates n such itd be better to fix them only on one wiki than having to do everything twice

sudden dove
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Will a mod suffice

onyx river
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Unless they mean for the wiki

sudden dove
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Truuueee, was about to ask why they brought that up in here. Good point.

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If it's not wiki-related you can just take it to #off-topic

mossy pine
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Also is there a spawn ID for the void chelicerate

onyx river
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Not that I’m aware of

granite stratus
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Fallout wiki manages a combined game wiki fine

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But since Subnauticas player base is smaller, and it’s not owned by a really popular company, it’s def harder to sort a combined wiki

wet sand
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there’s also the fact that

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uhh

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to put this nicely, a lot of the SN fan base is younger and isn’t exactly the best at absorbing information

cinder kestrel
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So merging the wikis would affect the abilities of the readers to understand the information?

wet sand
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there would definitely be a lot of people confused on what is in what game

cinder kestrel
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But since Subnauticas player base is smaller, and it’s not owned by a really popular company, it’s def harder to sort a combined wiki
If this means that combining the wikis will involve a lot of work, I'll agree. However, I prefer to think of that as a very small reason.

agile spindle
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children are already confused by things being on different wikis

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we see people posting BZ stuff on the SN wiki a lot

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and if people cant read a disambiguation notice at the top of a page there's already not much we can do to help them

onyx river
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Where do you get the databank entries?

agile spindle
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language files or transcribe them from ingame if you dont know how to find those

onyx river
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Ah, thanks

cinder kestrel
lusty hearth
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Aluminum oxide I believe.

onyx river
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Oh, oof, I changed that

lusty hearth
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Wait, hold on, Aluminum is for the generic ruby. The large resources deposit is referred to as DrillableAluminiumOxide in the language files, my bad.

onyx river
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Thats just confusing

cinder kestrel
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Aluminum is for the generic ruby
That, plus the fact the Ruby data bank is American and how we prefer not to use technical names as general names (hence why I don't think the large resource deposit name applies here), is why I think we should go with Aluminum.

dreamy holly
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Somebody should update the Al-An page, theres some new lore about his back-story in the fab base

fluid lagoon
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ah yes
the bad lore

dreamy holly
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fair point, but still, lore is lore

agile spindle
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why would they change lore

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lore is lore

dreamy holly
cursive vigil
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LORE IS LORE XD

vital nova
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Why would someone change lore

cursive pecan
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oh no

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not you again

atomic bough
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Mmm

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Peeper

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*grabs @cursive pecan and goes to the fabricator*

tame forge
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Peepers are tastiest

dreamy holly
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maybe talk about this in a diffrent chat pls

cinder kestrel
fluid lagoon
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or we can make it wiki keeper only just as god intended

cinder kestrel
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If we intend to stay as keepers of the wiki for the next hundred years, I have no objection to that.

dreamy holly
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...ok

fair turtle
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Just use a reactions bot to allow chatting in here. That way you can ensure everyone knows this isnt a general chat

dreamy holly
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honestly despite the fact it would effect me i think that there idea is proably the best option

cinder kestrel
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Just use a reactions bot to allow chatting in here. That way you can ensure everyone knows this isnt a general chat
That would eliminate some people.

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Another option is to make this channel link to a Subnautica Wiki Discord.

dreamy holly
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why not both

agile spindle
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that would be the most dead server ever

dreamy holly
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oh yeah, it totally would

dreamy holly
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hey was this moved?

onyx river
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No?

dreamy holly
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nevermind it disappered for me for a small while

late island
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Honestly though a wiki server might be helpful

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but if the devs are willing to have a chat just for wiki keepers in here I guess that could also work

onyx river
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I see what you mean, that way you could have a channel of community suggestions, but also one that isn’t constantly being spammed

dreamy holly
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I can see that working very well actually

winter harbor
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Is this for Fandom too?

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Or no...

dreamy holly
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its for the chat you r typing in right now

agile spindle
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if wiki keepers could moderate this channel somehow that would be nice

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but barring others from it seems counterproductive to me

cinder kestrel
late island
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Honestly I think that's too specific for this

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we'd only need like, a couple at most

dreamy holly
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idk found it on the images and it was that size

late island
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the images where?

dreamy holly
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when i searched for ”exchanger rocket“ on the wiki

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in images

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think its an old pic

late island
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I just found it and it's not that size

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also why not just use that image?

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Instead of reuploading it

dreamy holly
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idk why it was that size lol, and i proably just did it some way that caused it, sry

dreamy holly
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Xeno fixed it

dusky ermine
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its one of the removed ILZC entrances

late island
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Did we get rid of the BZ music page? I feel like since we have the track names on the biomes we should have somewhere with a full list, even if there isn't any sound

fluid lagoon
late island
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oh nevermind

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could probably link that on the biome's music section

dreamy holly
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Done

strange pewter
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ok

cinder kestrel
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I wouldn't say we're combined, though.

agile spindle
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😍

sour pewter
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at least y’all’s merger process probably ain’t as bad as Fallout’s merge process

cinder kestrel
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Or World of Warcraft's, although that was a while back.

sour pewter
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oh god

agile spindle
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isnt there both a wow fandom and gamepedia

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how the heck did they merge

cinder kestrel
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At least, I thought they merged. And yes, they were two huge wikis.

agile spindle
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why didnt the admins of both wikis combine forces

cinder kestrel
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Back when the wikis were first being founded? Not sure.

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I think they had different focuses, but ditto.

agile spindle
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so how does fandom decides who runs the merged wiki

cinder kestrel
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The admins figure it out.

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For example, we decided to exclude everyone from subnautica.gamepedia.com unless they worked as a regular contributor and rose in the ranks that way.

agile spindle
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so the gamepedia admins would get to decide?

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because i think that wiki is bigger

cinder kestrel
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The [community at large, including] admins [of both wikis] figure it out.

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That's more accurate, I hope.

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Another example: currently, in sounds like the admins of minecraft.fandom.com will be "transferred to a new working environment with a positive reference" but otherwise will be treated the same as everyone else if/when they merge with minecraft.gamepedia.com.

agile spindle
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with subnautica its easier cause the gamepedia never really got anywhere

cinder kestrel
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Yes.

agile spindle
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hm ok

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do we know when to expect the merge? the last blog i read said this week

cinder kestrel
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Migrations should begin next week.

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The global notice regarding the start of remaining migrations from Gamepedia legacy to Gamepedia on the UCP is going live NOW. / Please note that migrations begin next week and will be completed within a matter of weeks.

deft burrow
floral grove
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So subnautica below zero need help to translate???

deft burrow
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I can translate to estonian

frigid harness
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I can translate to english

echo harbor
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:P

silver marsh
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So subnautica below zero need help to translate???
@floral grove Not necessarily for all languages
But you can always help (#below-zero-info)
Also this is wiki discussion and is not the right channel

modest mirage
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I can translate in hindi

agile spindle
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can you translate "wrong channel"?

cinder kestrel
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I can think of one wiki that is the main translation hub (as opposed to the game makers or a third fan group organizing the translation process). We are not that wiki.

dreamy holly
agile spindle
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do what

onyx river
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I just undid those

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Like 20 mins ago

dreamy holly
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I know.... it still hurts

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I just dislike people who call it the Void Leviathan and apply that to pages, becuase I know they got it from clickbait youtubers and such

fair turtle
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Isnt that what the devs call it though?

agile spindle
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void chelicerate

fair turtle
zinc bone
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HII

deft burrow
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Dosent it also spawn in Giant tree cove?

fervent folio
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it does

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but thats a part of the lost river

deft burrow
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Oh

fervent folio
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and iirc it can spawn in any part of the lost river

deft burrow
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||Inside a ghost Levi?||

fervent folio
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..no

deft burrow
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That would be awsome tho

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Slowly killing it

deft burrow
sudden dove
onyx river
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That’s on the wiki discussions board

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So I guess it’s technically on the wiki,

sudden dove
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Of course it is smh

surreal galleon
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Cuddlefish Leviathan

cinder kestrel
agile spindle
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gave him a 1-day

late island
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Did we ever add those old fish school tests to the wiki? With the early models and all that?

burnt canopy
lofty canopy
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What is Grabcrab

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New creature?

fervent folio
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a crab that grab

lofty canopy
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so new creature?

fervent folio
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i doubt its new if its cut content

lofty canopy
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hm ok

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Too many Crabs

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Crabsquid,Crabsnake,now Grabcrab

fluid lagoon
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the grabcrab was probably in the game before the crabsquid and crabsnake
it's a hella old thing

deft burrow
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OlD

lofty canopy
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wot

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add it back to game

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So cut content is the ones that is removed from game?

fervent folio
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yes

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its content
that was cut

deft burrow
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Snip snip

lofty canopy
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I would like to see Grabcrab again in BZ

fervent folio
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they aren't adding anymore fauna PensiveSquare

deft burrow
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But are they.....

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||Plankton||

indigo drum
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lol

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hehehe

onyx river
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Oookay

late island
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Grab Crabs technically are in BZ

foggy topaz
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Sea monkey

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Grab crabs took your things to nests

late island
dreamy holly
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmhttps://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/BLLAH

Subnautica: Below Zero Wiki
BLLAH

BLLAH | Subnautica: Below Zero Wiki | Fandom

burnt canopy
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w h a t

vapid egret
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"The Lava Lizard, the Stalker and the reaper leviathan are the only creatures in Subnautica that don't emit Bioluminescence."

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who the hell wrote that on the lava lizard page

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reaper has bioluminescene thing

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-.-

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fixed it ^

little wolf
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I like how there are images for the bloom plankton in the Bioluminescence page even though they are cut

cinder kestrel
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Do you like it, though?

little wolf
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That was a joke

It’s confusing why it would appear in it

vapid egret
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one quick question: does the reaper really glow or it's bioluminescence glowing got cut?

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idk how u guys test it cuz the boys keep on editing it :/

cinder kestrel
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The same way they get the screenshots.

vapid egret
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i mean, i know how to edit on wiki and i have edited multiple pages, but im just not sure if reapers still glow or nah

cinder kestrel
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And then the guidelines will tell you how they get the screenshots (which also lets you test for bioluminescence).

vapid egret
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gotcha

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now i should get enough balls to go to the void to test it

vapid egret
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Yup they glow

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They're just kinda invisible on lower graphic and also hard to see

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But they're bioluminescence

onyx river
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Is it possible to add a subcategory such as carnivores or herbivores to all the fauna using a bot?

agile spindle
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yea just ask sls

fluid lagoon
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yes SLSbot can do that

onyx river
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K thanks

cinder kestrel
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I won't be at my computer for another 48 hours or so, so if you really want it done quickly, you'll have to do it yourself.

Otherwise, I have one question: how do I know which are herbivores and which are carnivores? Is there something on the article itself that says this, or . . . ?

fair turtle
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Can the Wiki page for the Symbiote say "No, this will not turn you into a Gua'old"?

fluid lagoon
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no

dreamy holly
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had to search up that refrence lol

viscid bronze
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this is insane lmao

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I love it

cinder kestrel
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I think the quality of the cropping reflects how much I care.

agile spindle
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you know looking back at it my icon system is completely pointless

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its much easier for everyone if you just edit the icons together into a png

late island
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this doesn't feel like a thing

agile spindle
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idk what that even means

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the playable map is sector zero

burnt canopy
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weather stays the same throughout the entire map what

silver marsh
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Not true, some places have specific weather or mild weather

late island
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This is referring to the Lilypad Islands

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I still say those'd be cool with like, snow or something on top of them

onyx river
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This new wiki software hurts my brain

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And only the below zero wiki has it

cinder kestrel
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What about it hurts your brain?

onyx river
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I’m just not used to yet

lusty hearth
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It is time rename all the plants on the wiki

onyx river
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Also, with what Tueman said about having the icons as two different pictures, it doesn’t work well on mobile as the background and item appear separate

lusty hearth
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Here are the pages that need to be renamed

fluid lagoon
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i dont know how i feel about these

turbid ermine
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I feel the same. Why are they there in the first place? Those fake arrows in the Tall Cyan Flower Orange and the Tape Plant are just bad.

lusty hearth
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God dang it I forgot to include (Tornado Plant -> Tornado Plates)

fluid lagoon
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oh GOD i just looked at the wiki for the first time today

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why is it all so hideous

cinder kestrel
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You're comparing Special:WikiActivity to Special:RecentChanges (the former is removed in UCP).

fluid lagoon
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well either way
WikiActivity was better than RecentChanges

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this is how cozy vs compact discord feels

onyx river
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The new thing is kinda nice though cause you can separate the comments, edits and image activity

cinder kestrel
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this is how cozy vs compact discord feels
For this analogy, Cozy doesn't include the ability to add a reaction, quickly quote it, mark as unread, copy a link to the message, or speak it out loud, but Compact does. WikiActivity has a lot more functionality than RecentChanges.

cinder kestrel
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@lusty hearth You said that renaming the articles is the bane of our existence. Fortunately, renaming pages using a bot (SLSbot) is a lot quicker than doing it in the browser. However, bots can only move pages if they're administrators (something that @agile spindle can solve).

lusty hearth
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Epic

cinder kestrel
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Another option is to use Bart's Digi-Training on me to teach me PyWikiBot (another bot software which I do not yet know how to use and requires some knowledge of Python). That program might not require bots to be admins to move articles.

Making SLSbot an admin (my own creation, greater than I) is the easiest option if you don't want to rename the articles yourself.

late island
late island
onyx river
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Any page I view is squished to the left

cinder kestrel
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Wait, SLSbot is already an administrator.

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But I think I know what I'm doing wrong.

late island
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tabbers seem pretty laggy now

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maybe it's just an editing thing

late island
cinder kestrel
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I guess I was too late to use the bot.

dreamy holly
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I dont know if Its just because it decided to use an Ipad today, but why did the new wiki stuff break so many gallerys and tabbers?

cinder kestrel
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Some of it had to do with certain things in the code being renamed.

dreamy holly
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honestly if i could i would just revert to the og wiki editing

cinder kestrel
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If I had unlimited time and energy, I'd explain everything wrong about that suggestion.

fluid lagoon
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can somebody tell fandom to bring back WikiActivity because i hate RecentChanges

dreamy holly
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idk just gotta get used to it i guess

cinder kestrel
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I'm going to make up this example, but MediaWiki:Wikia.css changed the appearance of the infobox.style element, but in UCP, that's infobox.appearance. That's one thing that would be temporarily broken.

dreamy holly
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oh and also Wiki Activity is soooooooo much better

cinder kestrel
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og wiki editing
Exactly how far back do you think that is?

agile spindle
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wiki activity is nicer on the eyes but recent changes is better overall

dreamy holly
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just before the recent update like yesterday

agile spindle
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everyone who edited on gamepedia is already used to recent changes

cinder kestrel
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Because Gamepedia uses more original stuff than Fandom did.

fluid lagoon
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i have never touched gamepedia in my life

cinder kestrel
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"Original" being "from Wikipedia" in this case.

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This is the editor introduced in 2017 (unless I'm confusing something with something else).

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dreamy holly
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is it bad i prefer that

cinder kestrel
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Not necessarily.

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But given the same amount of time you had with that editor (in my case, 3 1/2 years--which puts me in 2024), you'll probably get used to the latest one and prefer it over the 2017 editor.

dreamy holly
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i mean why did the subnautica wiki not get updated to this

cinder kestrel
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That is a good question.

agile spindle
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maybe theyre going smaller up

cinder kestrel
dreamy holly
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i understand achievements in that list..........thats all

cinder kestrel
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I could also try pinging our Wiki Manager, @neon mesa , to see if he knows why the Below Zero wiki is currently on UCP while the Subnautica wiki is currently not.

dreamy holly
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I mean will it be more like just getting answers or reverting the editing to the orignal?

agile spindle
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theyre not reversing it

cinder kestrel
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The ping will just get us an answer, but I think I know something about the editor.

agile spindle
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theyre making these changes to the entire website

dreamy holly
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oh

cinder kestrel
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In the meantime, I'll say that they've been planning this for months and months now.

dreamy holly
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Yeah, i’ll just miss the other edting

agile spindle
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the new editor gives me ptsd because its so similar to visual editor

dreamy holly
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lol true

fluid lagoon
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is it

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thank god

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source editor is awful

agile spindle
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youre just bad

dreamy holly
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source is great

cinder kestrel
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I could also try to blame everyone for not knowing about UCP and its changes because there was a notice on the wiki for a few weeks, but experience has taught me that sort of thing doesn't work as an excuse.

fluid lagoon
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tueman if you're on the same side as chillax that means you're on the losing side

dreamy holly
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bruh

cinder kestrel
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Not necessarily the losing side.

agile spindle
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even a broken clock is right twice a day

dreamy holly
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B R U H

cinder kestrel
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That's a 12-hour clock, right?

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With both hands still attached to the clock?

agile spindle
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ive never seen a 24 hour clock sls

dreamy holly
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B. R. U. H.

cinder kestrel
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Basically, take all twelve numbers on a regular clock and double them (and maybe insert odd numbers between the evens).

agile spindle
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if you dont include the odds then its not a 24 hr clock

dreamy holly
agile spindle
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its just a 12 hr clock that skips some numbers

dreamy holly
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i mean it kinda depends on your definintion of broken, because if a clock is 1 minute off the real time, then technically it will never be right that day

agile spindle
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thats not broken

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thats just off by a minute

cinder kestrel
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How about a digital clock?

dreamy holly
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like i said depends on your defintion

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ok what if a clock is broken, gets the time right once, then works before the second one until the day ends then breaks once more.

remote leaf
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ah

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Im late

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but I see you guys now get the bad mediawiki layout for BZ

onyx river
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It’s not on the sn wiki though

remote leaf
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it is on the BZ wiki

onyx river
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Very confusing

remote leaf
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now they get to see my suffering with the SL wiki

onyx river
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Suffering...
At least you don’t have to deal with a squished view

remote leaf
onyx river
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Oof

remote leaf
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I prefer what the SN wiki has

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actually shows what files were uploaded as well

onyx river
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Wait, that’s the new one, right?

remote leaf
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yeah, what I showed is what fandom is using

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they are updating their software to latest mediawiki

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so recent edits is now looking like they do on other wiki services

onyx river
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One thing that’s nice is that I can actually edit on phone now

remote leaf
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oh

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and guess what bug is back

cinder kestrel
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I trust you all realize why updating to the latest MediaWiki version is important . . . ?

remote leaf
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guess what bug this update brought back

onyx river
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I have no idea

remote leaf
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good old classic bug

onyx river
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Oh, yeah I saw that

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I was wondering about that

remote leaf
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this is why SL wiki doesnt use fandom

onyx river
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What ever happened to that dev run wiki...

remote leaf
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this is the current dev run wiki

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Im the manager of it

onyx river
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For the sn wiki

remote leaf
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oh

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idk

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scroll bar to move like 5 pixels

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very useful

onyx river
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sniff, so beautiful

cinder kestrel
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That's what happens when you make really tall stuff in its own--<div>?

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At least, that's my guess.

remote leaf
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it isnt in a div

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and it is fine on bip's blog

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I wonder if fandom can make their wikis not squished one day

onyx river
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The sn one is fine for me, but the bz wiki...

remote leaf
onyx river
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I spent 20 mins messing with my css and it did nothing

dreamy holly
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ah yes, more people complaing about the poop fandom update

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i much agree

remote leaf
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I get updating to the latest mediawiki version

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makes sense

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so small

onyx river
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I keep going to hit the edit button and end up in visuel editor

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We should probably fix that... for the 500 pages there are

dreamy holly
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no joke why does the editor take like 5 minutes to load compard to the instant load from the old one

onyx river
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Because it doesn’t redirect you to a different page would be my guess

dreamy holly
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wouldnt redircting take longer?

onyx river
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No idea

cinder kestrel
neon mesa
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I could also try pinging our Wiki Manager, @neon mesa , to see if he knows why the Below Zero wiki is currently on UCP while the Subnautica wiki is currently not.
@cinder kestrel

They're separate wikis, so it just turned out that one wiki made it into one batch of migrations, and the other will be included in a separate batch in the near future. All wikis (Subnautica wiki included) will eventually migrate into the UCP as well.

lucid wedge
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There's two people engaging in an edit war on the Wrecks page on the Subnautica wiki

onyx river
late island
lusty hearth
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beautiful

knotty nimbus
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Frozen Leviathan confirmed alive

cinder kestrel
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Source? Because the wiki has four to say otherwise.

knotty nimbus
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It was a joke lol

thorny canopy
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Makes me wonder what would happen IF the Frozen Leviathan wasn't trapped in the Ice and did break out of it

cinder kestrel
thorny canopy
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Welp

agile spindle
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if we delete the wiki anthomnias channels dies from lack of content

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im willing to take the blow who else

knotty nimbus
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Just have to rename it to not-below-zero and then he can never make a clickbait BZ video again

burnt canopy
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just restrict all pages to admins

cinder kestrel
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We're reaching the point where the suggestions are becoming more possible--and where I might have to explain why they're terrible (and impossible).

burnt canopy
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well at least anthomnia has moved off of frolo now

neon mesa
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There's two people engaging in an edit war on the Wrecks page on the Subnautica wiki
@lucid wedge
Looks like the one user didn't follow the reference/link. It looks like they've stopped for now, and the page currently says the correct info.

lucid wedge
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Wha-

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Oh

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Right

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from yesterday

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yeah i know lol

neon mesa
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Sorry. Less than 24 hours to respond is quick for me. lol

deft burrow
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Repair tool fragments?

onyx river
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What page is that?

deft burrow
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Under

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Cargo Crate

coral smelt
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yea repair tool fragments dont exist

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you get the recipe instantly

onyx river
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I already fixed it

deft burrow
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Ah yes

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Fixing

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But its fixied

silver tulip
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wrong chat

mystic sentinel
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I tried to put that in a friends discord, my mistake.

frank lance
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Mouth

deft burrow
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Cyclops Sheild Generator is in one recepie

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The neptune cockpit

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Its not shown on thr upgrade

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None

onyx river
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You know you can edit the wiki, right

deft burrow
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No

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||I use the fandom app||

ashen quiver
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They have an app?

deft burrow
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Yes

onyx river
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Just use the website on google or safari and request the desktop site

agile spindle
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can someone fact check this batch of edits

kind lagoon
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My boi tueman

burnt canopy
cinder kestrel
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The images that are displayed for each article, or another problem?

burnt canopy
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they keep getting changed to frolo

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it can't be a bug because it shows up on multiple pages like this

cinder kestrel
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It still can, although I don't know why the imagefor the Leviathan Class Organisms would suddenly change.

burnt canopy
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yeah i'm just saying it's unlikely it's a bug

agile spindle
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its a bug

burnt canopy
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do you know what causes the bug?

agile spindle
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fandom being mediocre

fair turtle
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So I want to start editing the wiki. Any tips?

onyx river
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How’s your grammar

fair turtle
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University level

cinder kestrel
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That definitely sounds above average for the wiki.

onyx river
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That’s very true

fair turtle
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I took history in uni

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if that says anything

onyx river
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Before you start editing may I suggest reading the help pages and the guidelines

cinder kestrel
onyx river
fair turtle
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Ok, ill have a read of those over thanksgiving (I am Canadian)

cinder kestrel
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Barring Subnautica Wiki:Guidelines, they'll also set you up for effective editing on any wiki on Fandom.

fair turtle
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Yeah, most of this is pretty bulk standard. Some HTML stuff, some other custom code as well

onyx river
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Yeah if you don’t know wiki text already, you should probably learn it, it’s pretty straight forward

fair turtle
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Yeah

agile spindle
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if you have questions just ask in here

old wind
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do bioreactors ever stop working? one of mine says active but isnt giving power

fair turtle
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Would making a generic Game Mechanics page be ok? Not something that goes into alot of detail, but something that covers everything in a enough detail for the new player. With links to the normal pages of course

fair turtle
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do bioreactors ever stop working? one of mine says active but isnt giving power
@old wind Its best to ask questions in the relevant game channels. #subnautica-chat and #below-zero-chat. Note that BZ chat is a spoiler chat.

fervent folio
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both chats are spoiler chats

fair turtle
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Yeah, but SN has been out for long enough to not consider it spoilers

fervent folio
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that doesn't make any sense Thinkies

cursive vigil
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^

cinder kestrel
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It makes sense to me.

Yeah, but SN has been out for long enough to not consider it spoilers
While Subnautica is out and nothing new will be released for it, Below Zero is still in development, so people who are behind the updates (e.g., haven't played for two months or don't have the Betas enabled) might be spoiled. The spoilers are "what's new to the game."
both chats are spoiler chats
This is the correct interpretation. In both games, there are stories that are not revealed immediately to the player. A player might only be 10% of the way through the story in either game while another player knows absolutely everything. The spoilers are "information about the stories and other content."

ivory steppe
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What's with the Seatruck Thruster Upgrade. Is it cut, or not? I am very confused.

fair turtle
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I believe it sits with SchrĂśdinger's cat right now...

cinder kestrel
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I've been thinking about how a Subnautica Wiki Discord would compare to what we currently have. Here's some thoughts I had:

  1. It would give us more options in what we want to do and make them easier to implement. If we wanted one Wiki Keeper-only channel, we could ask the staff of the Subnautica Discord server and they might give it to us. If we want three exclusive channels, we probably wouldn't get them (which makes sense). On the other hand, in a Subnautica Wiki Discord, we could add new channels in seconds ourselves and we could add whatever we wanted without being limited by the fact that we're in a Discord Server shared by everyone involved in Subnautica.
  2. It would reduce the number of off-topic messages. #📚wiki-discussion is about the wiki; other channels are better for asking about the game. If wiki people want to help answer the questions of others (I'm currently not one of them), they can help in the other channels.
  3. It would facilitate more conversations at once. If JimBob and NameGenerator want to talk about grammar on some articles and Ubnau and Utic want to discuss improving a template, they wouldn't have to interrupt each other or go to DMs; we could have two (or more) channels set up.
  4. Linking to one Server from another Server is a method that we already know works. #subnautica-modding is an example of this.
agile spindle
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a separated wiki-discord works great for minecraft when you have an active editor base but for subnautica we have like, 5 active editors tops

fair turtle
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A counter to this is to make a wiki category. This category would be under the management of the wiki keepers. This would allow for any of the wiki keepers to add and remove the channels without needing to ask the normal admins. This can also allow for all the issues currently plaguing this channel. having a wiki category that starts with a wiki-information channel, then two help channels (one for each game). Then any of the other channels that the wiki keepers need

agile spindle
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i dont think discord offers that kind of functionality

fair turtle
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It does

fervent folio
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yea you can kinda do that

fair turtle
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I manage two largish servers. That is one of the things I do all the time

cinder kestrel
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a separated wiki-discord works great for minecraft when you have an active editor base but for subnautica we have like, 5 active editors tops
I'm in a couple of other Wiki Discords that have small editor bases (small if you ignore all of the random editors who either do very little or don't join the Discord) and the Discord Server is still an effective tool for us.

burnt canopy
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Wondering if this is just a problem with me, but on all pages the sound players are broken.

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this only happens on the BZ wiki.

fair turtle
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same here

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Im on Vivaldi

burnt canopy
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another "fandom being mediocre" bug as tueman would describe?

fair turtle
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Just reading this https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Audio seems like the formatting has changed

Community Central
Help:Audio

You can include audio on your community via a few different methods, including SoundCloud, Spotify and the direct upload of audios to your wiki. You should be aware, however, that no single audio...

burnt canopy
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Hang on, i've found a page that works.

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Do the sounds load on this page for you too?

fair turtle
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no

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same coding as the other one I tested

burnt canopy
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hmm

fair turtle
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Im guessing all sounds will need to be updated

burnt canopy
agile spindle
burnt canopy
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triplefacepalm how many times has it changed lol

fair turtle
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interesting

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it loads properly, then loads like that...

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when you preview the page in the source editor, it loads properly

onyx river
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Fandom just needs to get good, then everything will work out fine

burnt canopy
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insert doggo gitgud emoji here

onyx river
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Aw, I don’t have nitro so I can’t use it here

cinder kestrel
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Fandom just needs to get good, then everything will work out fine
Does Unknown Worlds need to "get good" to fix bugs in its games?

agile spindle
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yes

fervent folio
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insert doggo gitgud emoji here
@burnt canopy gitgud

burnt canopy
fervent folio
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uwu

long locust
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oh yo i just realized the art room got archived

fervent folio
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oh yo i just realized the art room got archived
@long locust indeed
also this is wiki chat Thinkies

long locust
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oh yeah

fervent folio
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lol

long locust
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i did a dumb

onyx river
cinder kestrel
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All wikis on Fandom eventually will.

dreamy holly
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Just quickly, how do I edit a page without the tabber undoing itself

sudden dove
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Carefully

dreamy holly
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Whenever i edit a page in anyway, the tabbers just undo themselves, and “carefully“ is not seeming to work

agile spindle
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tabbers are pretty garbo

onyx river
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Wdym undoing

dreamy holly
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i mean turning from organized sections, to a single line on bullet points

onyx river
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Wiki keepers, could one of you state right here that advice is for blog posts?

agile spindle
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advice is for blog posts and comments

onyx river
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Thx

agile spindle
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and the one guide page we make on each wiki

heady gulch
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@agile spindle permission to make the sea dragon leviathan page protected temporarily to stop baselerson from messing with it anymore

onyx river
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🙏

agile spindle
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if its just one person give them a warning, then a block if they continue

sudden dove
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What does he keep adding/removing back?

heady gulch
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hes been adding cliff notes on how to kill the seadragon

onyx river
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Because he thinks he and his “edit squad” are right

sudden dove
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sigh

heady gulch
sudden dove
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It's a Subnautica Wikipedia, not a bestiary from The Witcher smh

heady gulch
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exactly

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also should i add a note on the giveaway items page that they no longer work in game?

agile spindle
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if thats the case

heady gulch
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i dont know what version it was changed in though. my only guess is a recent update made them unusable.

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right

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if anyone has special edition let me know if they can build the special edition hullplate

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or for that matter. any hullplate.

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okay uhh more important note...

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@agile spindle sorry form more pinging but.. which of the wiki keeprs knows the site formatting well?

agile spindle
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me depending on what youre talking about

heady gulch
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well

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a giant chunk of giveaway items page is broken actually

agile spindle
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use source editor

heady gulch
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it doesnt appear under the gallery like its supposed too

agile spindle
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whats supposed to be under gallery?

heady gulch
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the section about marla, unsual doll 2, jack sceptic eye tank, all its pertaining information, as well as the sceptic eye tank recipe.

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its visible in the source editor but if you view the page normally its entirely absent

agile spindle
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theyre there for me

heady gulch
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yeah- wait im stupid. nvm lol

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anyways

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we have an unruly user

agile spindle
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go ahead and give him a 3-day

heady gulch
#

am i able to do that as a content moderator? like i dont see an option on their profile

agile spindle
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hm i guess not

heady gulch
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in the pit he goes

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well i think he'll have some time to think about it then

cinder kestrel
heady gulch
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fair enough lol

onyx river
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They are?

heady gulch
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mhm, my guess is either they are here inactive or just joined not too long ago. no message history on the server

onyx river
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Ah

heady gulch
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if he decides to be unruly here though, mm im sure the discord ban will be a lot longer than 3 days

agile spindle
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id rather you not try to start arguments in here xeno

heady gulch
#

fair but, i feel it would be a better idea if we get all this, trouble, cleared up here in the presence of wiki admins instead of on the wiki.
But gotcha.

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want me to end the discussoin with him on the wiki though? he's giving a lot of grief on the message wall.

cinder kestrel
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The IP block (which is what would keep everyone in the school from posting) lasts for only 24 hours.

onyx river
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Thats seems like a weird way to do it, but I see the reasoning

heady gulch
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ah. makes sense.

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sls do you have the special edition for subnautica?

onyx river
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Bippity might?

heady gulch
#

bip is probably busy

onyx river
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Probably

heady gulch
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i still need someone to check to see if the special edition hullplate works or not.

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considering every other hullplate and redeemed item no longer can be built.

cinder kestrel
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I do not.

heady gulch
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dang

edgy lagoon
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my mans said you were acting like a child lmao

heady gulch
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i called him an unruly fetus.

cinder kestrel
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That doesn't sound very nice.

edgy lagoon
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I mean fair but a child could not come up with that

onyx river
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Insulting 101

cinder kestrel
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I mean fair but a child could not come up with that
I disagree (not necessarily from experience).

heady gulch
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yeah i know it wasn't very nice.
anyways I'll let him know what you said about the ip block. you sure it'll only last 24 hours? hes block for 3 days

cinder kestrel
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The automatic IP block is only 24 hours; his username/account is blocked for however long was specified (in this case, three days).

edgy lagoon
#

the wonders of new wiki users

onyx river
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And they call themselves the “og” squad

heady gulch
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because shouting at fellow wiki peers sure sounds like og to me

onyx river
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they think they’ve been on the wiki for a long time

heady gulch
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i don't genuinely care how long they've been on the wiki.

onyx river
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And yet

heady gulch
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there are users who have been there since people saw the world like a 1940s staticy film reel who were obnoxious pricks and made it their job to cause trouble.

onyx river
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There’s always going to be buttheads in this world

heady gulch
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yeah, thats a fact of life.

cinder kestrel
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Theoretically, with a finite number of humans, it's possible for that to be false.

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If we go back in time far enough, it's probably false.

heady gulch
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some users just engage in arguements over who's ego is larger pretty much and act like they are tough stuff in a place they dont need too

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like. does minecraft gamepedia have to put up with this kind of crap?

onyx river
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Probably

cinder kestrel
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I can almost guarantee it, but their admins have--more professional behavior? More experienced responses? Not sure.

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Some form of that that doesn't sound rude.

onyx river
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They’re a big time wiki

heady gulch
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yeah well minecraft gamepedia is kind of a standing totem of how to make a proper informational archive

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because of how clean and in-depth they are

edgy lagoon
#

I really need to shrink down those icons in the bugs section

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they're so overly massive on the wiki activity page lmao

heady gulch
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wait we have a bugs page?

onyx river
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Well don’t worry wiki activity will be deleted soon

edgy lagoon
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no we have a bugs sections on multiple pages

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I just added it to the T and X compartments

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I even remember reporting that bug twice about a year ago but it still hasn't been fixed, so I decided just to add it

heady gulch
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@edgy lagoon wait

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why are basalt outcrops in cut content?

onyx river
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Cause they were cut?

heady gulch
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.3.

I found them in the crag field when i played subnautica like a couple days ago.

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dropped a diamond,

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then i had to go back and hunt for another one since i needed 2 to build a laser cutter

edgy lagoon
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wait you tellin me they still in the game

onyx river
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Um, shale?

heady gulch
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wait

edgy lagoon
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I'm like 99% sure they were cut

heady gulch
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ohh nvm

onyx river
heady gulch
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yeah mighta been just shale then

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Oh im sorry they look kinda similar

edgy lagoon
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makes sense

heady gulch
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also speaking of which

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note, we need some better pics of the shale outcrops

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like. we got these 2 tiny pics of one in bulb zone and in tree mushrooms

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poor lighting

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oh god it was made by gush, of course it was

edgy lagoon
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why is it so small

heady gulch
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thats not even- the right model for the shale outcrop XD

edgy lagoon
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do people actually not play the game at 1080p

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actually I use to do that nevermid

heady gulch
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okay actually

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we need a full image overhaul of the crag zone

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these images are so old theres dust on them

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using the oldmodels

onyx river
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Argh, that deposit is so old

heady gulch
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i cant run games right now so

edgy lagoon
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Alright, I'm loading up a creative game, I'll get some pictures

heady gulch
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if anyone got the time to take up the mantle and get some picutes i'll scouge through the list of photos needing replacement and biomes

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main page image is fine

edgy lagoon
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So do I need to turn off the color grading

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I know I had to for the Aurora pictures

heady gulch
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Screen Shot 2017-02-26 at 18.46.53.png needs to be replaced (crag field)

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i- i dont rememberm the guidelines might say something about photographs

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Screen Shot 2017-02-26 at 18.png needs to be replaced (crag field)

muted canopy
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yo in the dialogue page i noticed that these 2 are exactly the same

heady gulch
#

Screen Shot 2017-02-26 at 19.06.39.png this bland piece of nature should be removed

muted canopy
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like, the audio files

heady gulch
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h m m m

edgy lagoon
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lemme check that real quick might be my fault

heady gulch
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"Screen Shot 2017-02-26 at 19.12.18.png" This one is semi okay??? like. but. if we gonna have fauna pics, get something with more fauna in it and a better look.

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i cant believe we're still cleaning gush's mess 3 years later

onyx river
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The audio is broken now on bz, so it’s only a matter of time before it breaks on the the sn wiki

heady gulch
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Screen Shot 2017-03-02 at 16.45.34.png this one is- wait nvm theres an old outcrop in here. i like the framing though, if you can try to get something similaar

edgy lagoon
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xdcer I'll just replace all the ones Gush did

heady gulch
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hills on both sides, valley in the middle, not a bad photo location tbh.

📎 640.png
muted canopy
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i can take screenshots if you guys need any

heady gulch
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as much as i dislike gush i kinda miss him

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@muted canopy do you got subnautica special edition

muted canopy
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no

heady gulch
#

damnmoit

sudden dove
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You could ask the dev team

heady gulch
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mmmmmmm i uh dont wanna approach them about that .3.

muted canopy
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i think my friend has special edition but i doubt that the hard drive it is on still works

heady gulch
muted canopy
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i can grab a high res screenshot

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is 1080p good enough?

heady gulch
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yyeah

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make sure to double check wiki guidelines about image editing though

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we are very specific about it

onyx river
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No, it must be 2000000p

muted canopy
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what is that screenshot of by the way

heady gulch
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bulb zone

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might as well be better to get rid of it

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cause its out of place

muted canopy
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yeah but what exactly

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the dropoff to world edge?

edgy lagoon
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I say get rid of it, there's nothing of value in it

heady gulch
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"A large dune, the border with the Crash Zone"

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wait

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what does the dune got to do with thsi?

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hmm

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@edgy lagoon whats your profesoinal opinion on this image right here

edgy lagoon
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I mean it looks good but they removed basically all the wreckage from the crash site if I remember right

heady gulch
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they did?

muted canopy
#

oh also is the sea treader path rock tower mentioned in the coordinates page?

heady gulch
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i wont lie the only good image by gush on this page iscalled "evil reaper"

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wel

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this page can use some touchups, replace any images you feel need replafcing

edgy lagoon
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is that image from the back of the ship

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the main one I mean

heady gulch
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https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Crater_Edge crater edge m,mmmm I hate this first image

Subnautica Wiki
Crater Edge

Subnautica takes place inside The Crater of an enormous, dormant, aquatic volcano, two kilometers in diameter. The Crater Edge is the area surrounding this crater. With no resources and extreme...

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the main one I mean
@edgy lagoon its a pic of the silhoutte of a reaper swimming above

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which is.. not bad tbh, since the reaper is a main theme in the crash zone i think it should stay there

muted canopy
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also i think i have a couple of crash zone lava lakes hole screenshots

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i dont know if theyre gonna be useful

edgy lagoon
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that specific spot in the screenshot, I cannot find

heady gulch
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https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Grassy_Plateaus alrgiht one image here needs removal or replacing i guess

Subnautica Wiki
Grassy Plateaus

Grassy Plateaus cover vast areas where the seafloor is too deep for Creepvines to take hold. They feature a great diversity of life forms. They are generally one of the first biomes the player...

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if you can find a clearer pic of the night plateus

muted canopy
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i can take one

heady gulch
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sure thing

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as long as its clearer than this pic

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if its literally as dark as that image is and therse no way to have any detail seen then its better not too

edgy lagoon
muted canopy
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i mean, i can artificially bump up the brightness

heady gulch
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https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Kelp_Forest if you want this main page image could be replaced, im not trying to go on the destroy all of gush's images tirade but. if you can find anything better go with i- phenominal

Subnautica Wiki
Kelp Forest

Kelp Forests are one of the most diverse biomes due to the range of fauna and flora that make their home in these biomes. These biomes are characterized by the abundance of Creepvines, and...

edgy lagoon
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replaced the grassy platue one

heady gulch
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A view of the Dense Kelp Forest
This is from 2016. if we can get anything better go for it. its also in the wrong resolution

📎 640.png
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you know the resolution standard right anomnum?

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jsut replace anyhting that isnt at the resolution standard

edgy lagoon
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yes I think

heady gulch
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or so old you can breathe the dust off it

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like this image

muted canopy
heady gulch
#

hmmmmm

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maybe

edgy lagoon
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fun fact I just learned

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biome kelp puts you under the ground

heady gulch
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EW EW

muted canopy
heady gulch
#

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Mountains okay this needs heavy overhaul

Subnautica Wiki
Mountains

The Mountains are a vast biome containing huge deep underwater mountain ranges, hydrothermal vents, rocky structures and an abundance of brown algae. Note that this algae cannot be scanned or...

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you think you're up for it blue hat?

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any image that doesnt fit the resolution requirements remove or replace

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as for most of the immages, they are ancient, old outcrops, old resources

edgy lagoon
#

can you link the image guidelines

heady gulch
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section is Pictures and Galleries

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okay gotcha

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so the standard is

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1920x1080

muted canopy
#

i have this

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thing which uh

heady gulch
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thats steam overlay

muted canopy
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limits the aspect ratio by a little

heady gulch
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you can disable it

muted canopy
#

i pressed the toggle thing like 50 times and it never gets removed

heady gulch
#

weird

muted canopy
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i mean its like literally 1 pixel off from 1920x1080

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not that bad?

edgy lagoon
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so it doesn't say I shouldn't use Filmic color grading, but at the same time, I don't think any of the screenshots on the kelp forest page do

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forgot

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forgot this was a pg server

muted canopy
#

ok which images need a replacement again

edgy lagoon
heady gulch
#

mhmm

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well

#

some of the color grades change the lighting

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like making the darkness darker

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stuff likie that

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so i dont think its an accurate usage

edgy lagoon
heady gulch
muted canopy
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pretty sure filmic just applies a very opaque layer of black

heady gulch
#

i think the page icon can use a better look tbh

muted canopy
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i'll handle the sea treaders path

heady gulch
#

sweet

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yeah, use your judgement on what needs to be replaced

edgy lagoon
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why do some many people insist on taking pictures with the lowest possible graphics settings

heady gulch
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wtf

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well.. if they are old pics that makes sense

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back then rulse were more chill

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also, good god this needs a makeover tooo

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too many old pics of old outcrops

muted canopy
heady gulch
#

AHHAHAHAHA

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okay you know what

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screw this.

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it seems like almost every of the surface biome pages need updaying,

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except safe shallows

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that one is actually pretty up to date.

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underwater islands needs image cleanup too. jesus.

edgy lagoon
#

why don't we just overhaul the whole gallery

heady gulch
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ehh

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i wanna say yes but at the same time

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some images are kind of a "good in the blink of the moment"

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right time of day, good framing and looks. nice number of fauna and stuff present.

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some images albeit old are better left alone because they just stand well

muted canopy
heady gulch
#

hit f6 until your hands disappear

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also you can use freecam

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the floating island page is surprisingly clean

muted canopy
heady gulch
#

if you are gonna take pics of terrain

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avoid anything thats just blurry in the distance tbh.

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especially if its one of the main focuses of the image

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that would be like taking a picture of a wreck thats almost invisble cause of the water fog

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just a reccomendation

muted canopy
heady gulch
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mhm

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dont worry about it, you know how to enable console commands right?

muted canopy
heady gulch
muted canopy
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this looks good

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i think

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can i add that one or nah

heady gulch
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i uhh, which page is it for?

muted canopy
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sea treaders path

heady gulch
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https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Mountain_Island @edgy lagoon sorry for the ping but please uh, prioritize updating mouintain page if ya got the itme

Subnautica Wiki
Mountain Island

The Mountain Island is a large island biome. It is located on top of a mountain range in the Mountains. It is located north of Lifepod 5 and is next to the Bulb Zone, Kelp Forest, Mushroom Forest...

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some of these screenshots are ancient

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eugh

edgy lagoon
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I will do it the moment I finish the kelp forest, which is like 5 minutes

muted canopy
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plus i think the stone tower is never mentioned in the wiki at all and deserves at least a single screenshot

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so can i add it or?

heady gulch
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hmmmmm, that idk about... tell me more about the stone tower

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if you go near it and hit f3 does it say its part of the seatreaders path?

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if not its best to leave it out

muted canopy
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i mean there are sea treaders around it

heady gulch
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@agile spindle sorry for the ping again but need your personal opinion on this image. i know its old since it calls it the koosh zone still, kagulan image, its on the bulb zone caves. should images like this be in galleries to begin with?

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images that do comparison shots like this

lavish ledge
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who

muted canopy
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sea treaders path starts at that point but the path itself is way deeper than that

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heady gulch
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🤔

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who
@lavish ledge tueman is head admin

lavish ledge
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oh

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that's kinda poggers

muted canopy
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it continues from there

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and that still counts as grand reef

heady gulch
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hmm i- Sure i guess you can put the formatoin in if its in the sea trader bath boundary

muted canopy
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also i like never worked with the fandom editor

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i should've said that earlier

heady gulch
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h m m m

muted canopy
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how do i add a screenshot

heady gulch
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okie dokie, yeah uhh... so if thats the case.

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damnit i need to walk you through this process. i dont know how to describe it.

muted canopy
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my brain is wrinkly enough to understand "click edit and then drag the object into somewhere"

heady gulch
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let me do a quick test because im a bit fuzzy on it as well actually

muted canopy
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i dont need like

heady gulch
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dont use the visual editor

muted canopy
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60 page manuals

heady gulch
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no not quite i'll tell you the image basics i just need to test it outmyself cause its been a while

muted canopy
heady gulch
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hit source editro

muted canopy
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oh wait

heady gulch
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mm yeah you can do that but.

muted canopy
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my brain is wrinkly enough to understand "click edit and then drag the object into somewhere"

heady gulch
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its a lot more precise with the source editor

muted canopy
heady gulch
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euf okay maybe not umm gimme a sec

muted canopy
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i mean is that good enough?

heady gulch
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yeah enver mind i dont rememebr well enough

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okay um.. so.

muted canopy
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i added it

heady gulch
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im gonna use the kelp forest as an example for this, i'll send you dms

loud jetty
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ew EWWW
@heady gulch i dont see any problem

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since the precursor base was added there

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the island wasnt changed that much

onyx river
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It’s an old photo

loud jetty
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but it doesnt looks

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outdated

onyx river
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There’s no life there

loud jetty
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i honestly dont see nothing wrong

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it is like that still

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for me if you want to say that an image looks "ancient"

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it has to be before the gun base was added

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since the base was added

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there wasnt too many changes

heady gulch
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there wasnt too many changes
@loud jetty the point of the wiki is to have up to date images.

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yes it shows the island

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but the image is an ancient versoin

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that is not the exact same as the current version.

loud jetty
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i dont see any diference

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with the modern island

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any major at least

heady gulch
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a lot of the details that are present in the current version are missing.

loud jetty
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um

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wich one?

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what detail?

heady gulch
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regardless any image with outdated needs to be replaced

loud jetty
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uh huh

heady gulch
loud jetty
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its

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the same thing

fervent folio
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its
not

heady gulch
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yeah, its nowhere near the same

loud jetty
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i honestly see no diference

edgy lagoon
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I'm working on the mountain island rn

heady gulch
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the terrain is different in the bottom pic

loud jetty
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i dont see any diference

heady gulch
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there are various flora textures on the mountains missing

lavish ledge
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psst

heady gulch
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the coastline is missing all its plants

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crap well i gtg. have fun fixing up the wiki

muted canopy
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if any screenshots need work just tell me

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except maybe crash zone and aurora screenshots because i still have submechanophobia

loud jetty
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i dind't know fear of submerged man-made objects existed

muted canopy
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well now you do

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and im the prime example of having it

loud jetty
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does fear of walls exist

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there is phobia's to everything

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no it dont

edgy lagoon
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Finished doing the Mountain Island page

agile spindle
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@heady gulch baselerson appealed to me in DMs so i lifted his ban. in the future don't wait so long to communicate with someone when theyre being a problem on the wiki

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this goes to you too @onyx river

heady gulch
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gotcha, i thought Picls2 had it under control until i saw it this morning so i passed it off as something minor

rigid jacinth
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Is @heady gulch the xeno guy?

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Sent a report involving someone literally insulting me for no reason.

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Either of u want to be in a Subnautica roleplay?

cinder kestrel
onyx river
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Sorry, I thought that he would see reason, I’ll make sure to contact someone next time

cinder kestrel
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If you both of you see how this is a bad thing to do, I'll have one less comment to give.

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rigid jacinth
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@onyx river I would see reason? You were doing the same thing.

heady gulch
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i mean.. you both locked into a back and forth editing thing.
And hey in my defense when i saw it last night it was the edit at 14:11 last night, so i thought that was a nail in the coffin for it.

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plus these things usually get squared away pretty quick... I havent seen a fullblown fight over edits since gush happened.

agile spindle
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@rigid jacinth by the way discussions is not a good place to discuss edits

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commenting directly on peoples' user pages or discord DMs is better

cinder kestrel
heady gulch
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delet 🗡️

agile spindle
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if you touch a single character on my user page, i will burn utica to the ground

sour pewter
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Oh, not in Utica, no, it’s an Albany expression

burnt canopy
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i feel obliged to continue

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**I see. You know, these hamburgers are quite similar to the ones they have at Krusty Burger **

fervent folio
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wait why can you change other peoples user page thingos-

agile spindle
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because fandom

sour pewter
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that’s just how it works

onyx river
bold lynx
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sorry, wrong page.

cinder kestrel
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Why don't we ask staff to move #📚wiki-discussion further down in the channel listing? We get a lot of people incorreclty posting in here, but if it was further down (e.g., in Community & Creative), it might help.

heady gulch
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what do you mean by incorrectly posting? like throwing random screenshots or saying random stuff in the chat? or like asking for help?

cinder kestrel
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I mean using this channel for things that aren't what it's made for (that is, the wiki and discussing it)--which includes all three examples you just gave, including asking for game help.

fair turtle
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If I know anything about people, its that it doesnt matter where a channel is. If they want to talk in it, they will. It may be better to offer a proper support channel. Maybe that would work better.

agile spindle
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the normal chats are support channels

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i personally like the idea of wiki mods being able to moderate in the wiki channel only

heady gulch
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I mean using this channel for things that aren't what it's made for (that is, the wiki and discussing it)--which includes all three examples you just gave, including asking for game help.
@cinder kestrel yeah but, last i remember, obraxis wasnt too pleased with us shooing users away that were asking for help

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i dont have a screenshot of the message but i remembered he was pretty upset about us telling users to scoot outta the wiki chat if they were just looking for help.

grim jungle
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I'm open to having a chat about it with any of you guys, for either moving it, or giving moderator powers for just this room. Whatever you think will work best or make it easier.

heady gulch
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@agile spindle should all the wiki keepers discuss this idea of what was mentioned above? or are you going to speak for all of us boss

agile spindle
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im not the boss

heady gulch
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you are the head admin of the wiki though,

agile spindle
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not really

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i have the same powers as bip, vee, and dino

heady gulch
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huh, yeah fair point.

cinder kestrel
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Can you answer my question?

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I think that going into a game channel, pinging them, and answering the question is better than answering the question in #📚wiki-discussion (although it's not the only solution).

agile spindle
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the problem isnt so much shooing them away as much as bullying them out of the channel for accidentally asking in the wrong place

cinder kestrel
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One thing I really like about the UCP is the improved Show Differences. For example, in this edit, you can't tell right away I changed "the orange ears" to "its orange ears"; you could constantly look back and forth between the two paragraphs to try and figure it out, or you could do something else to try and spot the difference, but it's neither easy nor quick.

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Whereas on the UCP, you can tell what I changed just as easily as if I had not removed the newline.

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sudden dove
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One of you mentioned maybe moving further down the channel list. How would you guys feel about being in Community & Creative instead of up in General?

agile spindle
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i don’t think it would make a difference tbh

cinder kestrel
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I think it would.

onyx river
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They’d probably start posting base pics in here

cinder kestrel
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Because if not, I'll have to disagree about base pictures in here.

cursive vigil
onyx river
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I guess that’s a good point

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@cursive vigil that’s not his point

cursive vigil
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I know, sorry.

cinder kestrel
edgy lagoon
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I personally would suggest moving it to Bugs & Support, since none of the channels can be typed in anyways

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but then again, not sure if this counts as a support channel