📚wiki-discussion

[summer kindle]

Didn’t take a top or front pic

[agile spindle]

why

is it not straight?

[summer kindle]

Yeah it looked weird

It was never straight

But I’ll do them now

[agile spindle]

can you get a good length measurement also?

[summer kindle]

difficult when it is never straight

[wet wagon]

found some degasi concept art, added it to the main wiki.

[agile spindle]

can you source it

[summer kindle]

Pat's instagram I imagine

[wet wagon]

yes

got the link if needed.

[fluid lagoon]

wait did nobody add that when we first found it

[agile spindle]

in the future can you name uploads

having the name be numbers is frustrating

[wet wagon]

oh sorry, i thought i did that....

maybe it was something else i saved.

[summer kindle]

this seems to be about as straight as I can get it

[agile spindle]

whats the length come out to that way?

[summer kindle]

Around 60-65?

[wet sand]

you could try opening the model in unity and comparing it to other leviathans that we do know the length of

[summer kindle]

you think I know how to do that chingus

[wet sand]

ech

I’ll see if I can do it when I get home

[summer kindle]

I'll try sticking a cheli next to it

definitely at least 60

[agile spindle]

@late island do you want to talk to mira about the wiki activity spoilers thing?

[heady gulch]

Wait it’s in game already

Damn I need to catch up.

I’ll be able to help a lot more on the wiki after May is over

[summer kindle]

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/subnautica/images/c/ca/Spotted_Dockleaf_Data_Bank_Image.png/revision/latest?cb=20171012224122
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/subnautica/images/e/ee/Spotted_Dockleaf_Flora.png/revision/latest?cb=20170812153102

can someone upload these two to the BZ wiki

my PC won't save them correctly for some reason

[edgy lagoon]

@chilly grove Since some people are acting like I'm god, I feel the need to tell you that I am leaving the edit, my argument is worth being upset over. If it's changed by a staff later, so be it, but I won't touch it anymore.

I think this was already known between us both, but it appears others cannot read the "we'll wait for an official decision" part in both of our posts.

[summer kindle]

Can someone please upload those images

[edgy lagoon]

I'll try, give me a minute.

To the BZ wiki, right?

@summer kindle ^

[summer kindle]

Yes

[edgy lagoon]

Uploaded both now, should be under the same names as the other wiki.

[summer kindle]

Yep

It’s done

Thanks

[edgy lagoon]

Glad I could help mate.

[summer kindle]

I could save and upload the seed picture fine but for some reason neither of those would save properly

[edgy lagoon]

Very odd.

wait when did I become a wiki mod hold up

[agile spindle]

you didn’t

[fluid lagoon]

bippity you don't get to just do these things

[agile spindle]

wait did bip mod him

[edgy lagoon]

Well, okay. Either way, check latest comments on the Subnautica wiki.

[fluid lagoon]

no he gave him wiki keeper

[agile spindle]

oh

well that’s fine

[edgy lagoon]

New spam account is doing bad stuff.

[late island]

why is he orange who said he could be orange

[edgy lagoon]

Bip I guess, I don't know.

[agile spindle]

who cares

seriously

@cursive vigil are you the same unknown as on the wiki?

[edgy lagoon]

I don't think they are.

Either that or Unknown has intense short term memory.

[agile spindle]

@edgy lagoon can you also upload the dockleaf seed icon?

[summer kindle]

I already uploaded that

[agile spindle]

o

[summer kindle]

Or not

Nope I didn’t

Thought I did

[edgy lagoon]

Wait but it said you did?

[remote leaf]

no, anom

why did you let unknown know that the discord exist

[agile spindle]

we thought he was already in it

[cursive vigil]

...

why did he say that when he has discord

he is in this server

i think it's just a troll

[remote leaf]

could be

my mind hurts a lot now

[cursive vigil]

mine too

i still dont get it after reading it 7 times

[fluid lagoon]

oh it's lee's dumb "not tueman" account

[edgy lagoon]

I take no blame if he joins, I blame lee.

[remote leaf]

cough

[hallow basalt]

bless you

[edgy lagoon]

I mean I thought that account was his.

[remote leaf]

fair point

[edgy lagoon]

I'll take half blame. That fine?

[hallow basalt]

what are we even talking about

[edgy lagoon]

Uh... yes.

[remote leaf]

bad Lee

[edgy lagoon]

The delete button in the settings

[remote leaf]

settings

edit account

[frail dragon]

Ok

What if I were to tell you
Unknown is my main account
And Lee23 is my alt

[edgy lagoon]

Wiki chat

[remote leaf]

I would be disappointed, Lee

[frail dragon]

It’s not true of course... but as I said... what if?

[hallow basalt]

it could be you, it could be me!

[agile spindle]

lee you are so annoying with the fake account stuff

please stop doing it forever

[frail dragon]

Ok

[hallow basalt]

i honestly thought unknown was gonna be smart enough to get discord

what a disappointment

[remote leaf]

I think it is better he doesnt

[edgy lagoon]

Agreed.

[frail dragon]

Sí

[remote leaf]

Oh no

[agile spindle]

sls you fool

[cinder kestrel]

That will not get the user into this Discord.

Hence "in general."

[agile spindle]

he might seek it out

[cinder kestrel]

Do you expect the user to do https://www.google.com/search?q=subnautica+discord ?

[remote leaf]

I only found it out because it used to be advertised on the wikia

They probably would try it

[cinder kestrel]

Hmm, a smart person . . .

[agile spindle]

it is advertised on wikia

[remote leaf]

Oh still advertised on the wikia? Guess i just havent seen it lately

[cinder kestrel]

Ah.

[remote leaf]

Im more talking about how it had like a whole section on the wikia

[cinder kestrel]

All I remembered was the little window on the sidebar.

[agile spindle]

oh that thing

ew

looked ugly anyway

[edgy lagoon]

Sls you've doomed us all.

[chilly grove]

XD Imagine my confusion. I couldn't tell if the messages on my wall were legit or just weird in-joke that I wasn't getting. Heh.

[frail dragon]

Oh wait was my unknown account banned
Not that I care but

[agile spindle]

yes

[remote leaf]

why is this page in alphabetic order and not length order like the normal SN wikia

[agile spindle]

because we dont know all the lengths

[remote leaf]

fair point

[agile spindle]

we knew even fewer when we first wrote it

[edgy lagoon]

Why not put those at the end though?

[agile spindle]

cause when we wrote the page we had no lengths

[edgy lagoon]

Works for me.

[remote leaf]

Also the extinct leviathan fossil isnt on there

[agile spindle]

so add it

[remote leaf]

I cant

[agile spindle]

now add it

[edgy lagoon]

Why doesn't it allow classic edit by default?

Is that a setting I have to turn on clientside?

[agile spindle]

cause classic edit is dumb

[edgy lagoon]

Can I do source edit on the current edit mode?

[agile spindle]

source edit is the default

[edgy lagoon]

...No? Pressing the edit button opens up some weird on-the-page edit from what I can tell.

[agile spindle]

go to preferences and change it

[edgy lagoon]

Oh, okay.

[remote leaf]

why cant wikia have a 12 hour time system setting

[edgy lagoon]

I set it to that, thank you.

I tried my hand at organizing them if that is okay.

I just organized them by size if we knew it, and the ones we didn't are in alphabetical order at the end.

[remote leaf]

maybe some pictures can start being added as well

ingame pics

like size comparision

[edgy lagoon]

Yea, as the original page has those.

[agile spindle]

a link in the publish summary

amazing

[edgy lagoon]

I usually do that, yes. Is that not okay?

Plus it is the actual name of the section, with the link included.

[cursive vigil]

@edgy lagoon omg is your profile pic a novakid?

[edgy lagoon]

Yes, though this isn't the chat to talk about it.

[cursive vigil]

right sorry

[minor axle]

You guys only host the sn FANDOM

[summer kindle]

Yes?

[minor axle]

Really

So there's no other wiki

U guys host

[gleaming island]

yep, they are responsible for fandom wiki, which is the only big one

[frail dragon]

i dont see how you would think they host more than one

that's pointless

[agile spindle]

we do run more than one wiki

[frail dragon]

below zero wiki?

[agile spindle]

yes

[edgy lagoon]

They don't run on multiple websites.

[cinder kestrel]

We maintain two different wikis, both of which are hosted by the same company on the same domain.

[thorny merlin]

who plays the old subnautica?

[fluid lagoon]

this is the wiki room

[minor axle]

Mesmers ain't in shroom forest

[edgy lagoon]

Pretty sure it is.

[cursive vigil]

They are. I've seen multiple there

[maiden cloud]

How goes it you beautiful wiki people

[agile spindle]

hey foxy long time no see

[summer kindle]

Mesmers are in the Mushroom Forest but they are uncommon

1-2 can spawn in front of the giant mushroom tree and that’s the only place I’ve seen them

[remote leaf]

They have responded

[edgy lagoon]

I want to see this.

His responses are the basic "Early Access doesn't mean that" "I am a software tester myself" stuff.

[edgy lagoon]

That's a very squeezed screenshot.

Shall I provide images from Desktop?

[remote leaf]

Sure

[tepid swallow]

I mean it's not like BZ was like the beginning of SN

BZ already has a lot, I wouldn't call it "prototype"

[edgy lagoon]

Here's his whole reponse.

Split into two different comments because why not.

[frail dragon]

Why is the mushroom forest so inconsistent

Or at least the spawns are

Like the purple pinecones for example

[turbid ermine]

It says on the wiki they can always be located at the same place, that means they were placed by hand.

[frail dragon]

Or like just

Why was everything placed so randomly

[maiden cloud]

@agile spindle are you guys settled on Fandom? Did they sort all those videos out for you?

[agile spindle]

yes

and yes

[maiden cloud]

Awesome

[cinder kestrel]

Our current plan is to wait a few months. If we absolutely hate the program after all its changes, we will leave. Otherwise, we will stay.
I think that is the plan.

[maiden cloud]

Can you guys push for them to delete this: https://naturalselection.fandom.com/wiki/Natural_Selection_Wiki as a deal for you guys letting them host you officially?

[cinder kestrel]

Or maybe we just plan on staying forever regardless.

[maiden cloud]

It's like, 6 years out of date

[agile spindle]

I don't think they delete wikis ever

[maiden cloud]

And we've busted our ass on the official one

I just spoke to Mira

[cinder kestrel]

They do occasionally.

[agile spindle]

did mira say it was okay?

[maiden cloud]

(she?) said it may be part of a deal

I think Fandom are really keen to be officially official for SN

due to the traffic you guys generate for them

[agile spindle]

i dont see why a deal would be made when Ted told us to stay on fandom

[maiden cloud]

@fluid whale are you there good sir?

[cinder kestrel]

Did you just ping him?

[maiden cloud]

I did

[cinder kestrel]

Yay, my eyes are working.

[maiden cloud]

Hopefully he doesn't call down Mjolnir and smite me

[cinder kestrel]

Based on https://naturalselection.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Insights/popularpages , it seems the wiki earns FANDOM--a couple dollars every week? Every month? Yeah, you are right: it is rather unpopular.

[agile spindle]

how much do ours make

[maiden cloud]

It's not even the lack of revenue, it's totally defunct and out of date

It's misleading

[cinder kestrel]

How much do you think per ad--$0.01? A tenth of that?

[maiden cloud]

to anyone that reads it

[fluid whale]

calling Mjolnir 😉

[maiden cloud]

nooooooooooo

[cinder kestrel]

If it was making a lot of money, that might be reason alone to keep it.

[agile spindle]

i assume you wanted to ask him something foxy

[cinder kestrel]

We are currently seeing 539,900 views per week. So, anywhere from $539.90 to $5,399.00 per week.

[maiden cloud]

I did, Teddy, Mira suggested that it may be a possibility to have an old deprecated NS2 wiki deleted as part of SN becoming "official" on Fandom, do you think that's realistic?

https://naturalselection.fandom.com/wiki/Natural_Selection_Wiki

[cinder kestrel]

Or more, if the ads on a single page amount to more than a cent per view.

Banner ads, side ads, video ads, etc.

[maiden cloud]

That still refers to NS2 as the "upcoming title" (!!!!!)

[fluid whale]

well...we haven't become official on Fandom...but it is something we can discuss with them in the future

[maiden cloud]

It has 29 articles vs the 262 on the official one

[agile spindle]

why havent we become official

[fluid whale]

would you guys like to be?

[agile spindle]

i thought we settled it

[maiden cloud]

Because they just aren't ready for that commitment yet

Give them space man

[fluid whale]

no...we said we'd revisit with them in a few months when we see if any of your concerns have been addressed

so nothing "official" yet...but if you all are ready to consider it, we can talk with them about it

[agile spindle]

Many of our concerns have already been addressed, personally I am okay with "becoming official"

[fluid whale]

good to know

[cinder kestrel]

I do recall that being the decision in https://discordapp.com/channels/85342800492634112/188459887200698368/570345468782182410 .

[maiden cloud]

Call a vote of all the orange people!

[agile spindle]

I think @late island still has some reluctance to staying

[fluid whale]

others?

[cinder kestrel]

I am fine with being official.

[maiden cloud]

I guess it's really just down to the 'crat

[cinder kestrel]

Would you like to wait on the edge of your seat while we vote one by one?

[maiden cloud]

.....yes

[cinder kestrel]

. . . or we can ping you when we have reached a conclusion.

(Talking to Ted right now, but this can also be directed towards you)

[fluid whale]

👀

[maiden cloud]

I just want you to get that horrible old NS2 one deleted as part of the arrangement 😄

Stop confusing my precious rookies

[agile spindle]

isnt the clogopedia the top result on google anyway

[fluid whale]

...but yes...please let me know what you all think is best as far as going official

[maiden cloud]

not for "natural selection wiki"

[fluid whale]

and yeah...I'm sure the NS2 wiki on Fandom is getting nearly zero traffic

[maiden cloud]

The fandom one outranks it 😦

[fluid whale]

it is outranking for anything else?

[cinder kestrel]

isnt the clogopedia the top result on google anyway
Yes, and when both FANDOM and Gamepedia have identical wikis, one outranks the other. But they both exist and get views.

[agile spindle]

to be fair the top result for that google search is wikipedia

[maiden cloud]

It's third for natural selection 2 wiki

[agile spindle]

why is it lower, though, if the fandom has little traffic?

[cinder kestrel]

That is a wonderful question.

[maiden cloud]

Not a lot of SEO work has gone into it I guess

[cinder kestrel]

Also probably has a lot to do with how popular the FANDOM domain is in general.

[maiden cloud]

Yeah

[cinder kestrel]

Google probably expects that a website receiving 185 million (?) views a month is more popular, even on a subdomain.

[fluid whale]

"ns2 wiki" is a good one too...Clogopedia appears to be doing well on the majority of queries

but we could certainly ask

[agile spindle]

what happens if a guy decides to recreate the wiki after it's deleted? theoretically

[late island]

I mean personally I'd ideally have us move away from fandom, and I'm sure the other keepers would like that as well

but in the end if that just won't work out it won't work out

[agile spindle]

why do you want to move away from fandom?

[late island]

don't have to deal with their shenanigans

[cinder kestrel]

what happens if a guy decides to recreate the wiki after it's deleted? theoretically
There is a good probability that they blacklist the domain.

"Shenanigans."

[agile spindle]

They fixed most of the mistakes they made in the past

[cinder kestrel]

One reason we are staying is for what Tueman just said, and that they will make more improvements in the future.

[agile spindle]

Mira has agreed to discuss CSS/JS changes with us and they got rid of the videos

[late island]

who knows if that'll start back up again

[cinder kestrel]

Mira has agreed to discuss CSS/JS changes with us
We should do that sometime.

[agile spindle]

plus they're making a lot of changes going forward

they have a whole plan about becoming more like gamepedia i think

[cinder kestrel]

That tends to happen when management changes, plus other changes.

[late island]

but really I'm not too content on pushing to leave at this point

leaving would be nice but what happens happens

I'm not gonna push for it at this point.

[agile spindle]

i dont wanna ping anyone but if any other wiki keepers have an opinion on it it'd be great to hear

[maiden cloud]

chants ping them! ping them!

[remote leaf]

I wouldnt mind it

[cinder kestrel]

I wouldnt mind it
Alright, if you do not mind being pinged, which is clearly what you mean, @remote leaf .

[fluid lagoon]

<@&192900629797142528>

[remote leaf]

oh no

[fluid lagoon]

haha yes

[remote leaf]

[agile spindle]

vee what is your opinion

[knotty steppe]

oooooo u in troubleee

[cinder kestrel]

(We are still asking if we want to be official, right?)

[fluid lagoon]

my opinion is that im busy eating potato slices

[agile spindle]

we all know what happens when vee is eating potatoes

chaos

[cinder kestrel]

What kind? Chinese?

[edgy lagoon]

What's being debated

[knotty steppe]

oh no, not the dreaded potato slices!

[agile spindle]

whether to tell mira we are officially staying on fandom or waiting a few months first

[cinder kestrel]

Yes, these things.

Or, rather, this.

Fun fact about https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Chinese_Potato_Plant : the only link it has to https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Chinese_Potato is an image in the infobox.

[heady gulch]

Hm? What’s the question?

[agile spindle]

Whether to officially tell mira we stay on fandom or to wait a few months before we decide

[heady gulch]

Hm. I think we should wait a bit.

[cinder kestrel]

Waiting a few months gives us more insurance in case we end up hating them.
Does becoming official make us cooler?

[agile spindle]

allows us some more benefits apparently

[cinder kestrel]

So, it does make us cooler, apparently.

Amazing what searching can do for me.

Anyway, the wiki is going well.

Great conversation.

[agile spindle]

I guess we're waiting a bit then

[edgy lagoon]

Rip nootfish article.

[frail dragon]

what happened to it

[edgy lagoon]

It was locked. People kept adding the idea that the design was inspired by the tv show Pingu.

[summer kindle]

Well it clearly was

[edgy lagoon]

I feel it was too, but I ain't the one undoin' it.

[fervent grove]

I don't know, I think it's more likely to have been inspired by a hoover

[cursive vigil]

Epic

[torn meteor]

e

[frail dragon]

should we have thermal lily sounds?

[agile spindle]

yes

[edgy lagoon]

Adding sounds to the Subnautica creatures is going to be hell because of how the files are named.

Adding sounds to the Subnautica creatures is going to be hell because of how the files are named.

Adding sounds to the Subnautica creatures is going to be hell because of how the files are named.

Meaning the original game.

I don't know if they're still named as bad in Below Zero.

[agile spindle]

they arent

[edgy lagoon]

I'll probably try and sort through the sounds on my own to add them to the Subnautica wiki, but Jesus Christ this name structure is a pain.

[frail dragon]

a lot of those attack sounds i have never heard before

[edgy lagoon]

I'll have to compare them all to in-game audio to be certain.

[frail dragon]

does anyone know what attack_cine is

and attack_down might be sea treaders though

[agile spindle]

sea treaders dont attack

[frail dragon]

well, defend a bit i guess

[agile spindle]

i dont think they do

[frail dragon]

they kick you, don't they?

[agile spindle]

no

[frail dragon]

i couldve sworn i got kicked in the face by one

[agile spindle]

apparently they attack but not with their legs

[frail dragon]

is it with that proboscis thing?

[agile spindle]

its with the beak

[frail dragon]

i believe attack_swing is also with sea treaders but i cannot confirm this

[fluid lagoon]

i'm putting this in the tueman hall of fame

[frail dragon]

bite 2 is like the most generic sound that i hear on every creature

[agile spindle]

@fluid lagoon

[frail dragon]

ok i hope this helps
charge (2) - stalker
charge (3) - sandshark (confirmation needed)
charge_1 (2) - crabsquid
charge_1 - idk
charge_2 (2) - idk
charge_2 (3) - crabsquid
charge_2 - boneshark?
charge_3 (2) - idk
charge_3 (3) - stalker
charge_3 - crabsquid
charge_4 (2) - crabsquid, but maybe unused?
charge_4 - stalker
ok I was very uncertain so I'm not sure how helpful that really was

[fluid lagoon]

chef's kiss

[agile spindle]

sure but not with their legs

not "down" like lee was saying

[frail dragon]

can they still kind of bump into you and deal damage?

[fluid lagoon]

nobody was talking about their legs

[fluid lagoon]

which was said after you said that

[agile spindle]

besides you always claim you forget stuff about SN because BZ is so much better

as an excuse for saying dumb things

[fluid lagoon]

ok sure tueman

[frail dragon]

oh and when I said attack_down i didnt exactly mean they attacked downwards but that is the name of the file and it sounds like a sea treader

[agile spindle]

@fluid lagoon

[frail dragon]

so i'm going to begin by sorting all the files

to each creature

gasopods are somewhat sorted

[fluid lagoon]

thanks for reminding me of that epic joke i made

so anyway when are you going to accept that you said something silly instead of suddenly making it about me

master of projection

[agile spindle]

you guys do that to me all the time lol

i just think its funny how you brush stuff off as a "joke" to avoid looking like an idiot

[fluid lagoon]

because you aren't trying that right now

[agile spindle]

i didnt say i was joking

[fluid lagoon]

did i say you were

[agile spindle]

i said i forgot, because i havent played SN in a while

[frail dragon]

can I DM someone some audio files to confirm some stuff?

[agile spindle]

what even

you did say i was

[fluid lagoon]

trying to avoid looking like an idiot

[agile spindle]

i mean

sure

but what im saying is its fine to be dumb sometimes

[cursive vigil]

i expected this chat to be filled conversations about the wiki, not conversations about who is an idiot

[agile spindle]

why did you expect that

[frail dragon]

so, about the audio files...?

[cursive vigil]

you can dm me them

but well, this is the subnautica discord server, people talk about subnautica in the general chat, memes in the subnautica chat, advertising in the below zero chat...

[cinder kestrel]

For uploading all these sound files: what if we zipped and uploaded them to Discord and let Mira Laime upload them directly? It would be a lot less work for us.
Or at least, we could ask if that could be done.

[agile spindle]

why would she take time to do that

[cinder kestrel]

How many files do we have? 30? 300? 3000? I do not actually know, but if we have a ton, it would be a kind act.

it would be a kind act.
That is pretty much the sole reason why she would do it.

[agile spindle]

yea but that isnt her job

[frail dragon]

are we sure that the reaper leviathan doesn't have any bioluminesence?

i really think it does, but it's just very slight

[agile spindle]

start the game and look

[edgy lagoon]

Pretty sure it doesn't, but check.

[frail dragon]

well it appears to be nearly black... and with the bioluminesence, black is darkest, and white is brightest

but it's definitely in the files

and this is not the green eyed one

this is definitely bioluminescence

[gritty wren]

👌

[frail dragon]

i don't know how this was overlooked all this time

[edgy lagoon]

Well, take an image like the other items have and upload it.

[frail dragon]

what about the bubbles?

[edgy lagoon]

What?

[frail dragon]

ambient b u b b l e s

[gritty wren]

Bubs

🅱 u🅱 🅱 les

[frail dragon]

i can't really get a good image that has fog on

[agile spindle]

so take it off

[frail dragon]

is this ok?

he's too bendy

[agile spindle]

its fine

[edgy lagoon]

No that works fine, Lee.

Upload that to it's page and the Bioluminescence page.

[frail dragon]

ok

i dont understand why the page said the reaper doesn't give off any bioluminescence when there was clearly an image already on the page called Reaper Bioluminescence.png on the page

[edgy lagoon]

Really?

[frail dragon]

yeah

there was trivia on several pages about Reaper bioluminescence, too...

i want to know who i can blame this on

[agile spindle]

then go in the history and look

i think it mightve been me but im not sure

[frail dragon]

maybe bippity?

[agile spindle]

if its that important to you just check

[frail dragon]

ok

SphericalCircle

wait why are sea emperors under the carnivore section of the bioluminescence page

[agile spindle]

they are carnivores

[frail dragon]

they are carnivores?

[agile spindle]

add a leviathan section if you want

[frail dragon]

okay

should eggs go onto the bioluminescence page? i wont add them now but

[agile spindle]

is

[edgy lagoon]

@frail dragon Yes, if they glow.

[frail dragon]

i think they all do

[remote leaf]

my eyes

[frail dragon]

it had to be extremely dark because of how slight the bioluminescence is

[remote leaf]

im talking about how small it is

[edgy lagoon]

Why is it so small there but so big when you posted it here

I fixed it for you.

Should be a better size now.

[frail dragon]

why does it look so JPEGish

[edgy lagoon]

Because that's how it looks when you sent it.

If you mean the version I uploaded.

[frail dragon]

mine was fine i dont know what happened to yours

nvm

but at least this one isnt pixelated

[edgy lagoon]

Yea because that one is goddamn tiny

Can't see the pixels if they're too small to be seen.

[frail dragon]

but yours is the one that looks pixely

well in the preview thing at least

did you just stretch it?

[edgy lagoon]

No I used the exact one you first sent.

No edits at all.

[frail dragon]

oh

is this not low res to you though?

[edgy lagoon]

Much larger than the one you had.

I do kinda see what you mean though.

[edgy lagoon]

I don't understand people sometimes.

[tepid swallow]

Maybe there's no need to understand

[edgy lagoon]

Is there a way to make the table of contents auto hide on page open for a specific page?

[agile spindle]

yes but it either does that for everyone or no one on every page

[edgy lagoon]

Well I was wanting to make it so, on the Cut Content page, the Table of Contents is auto hidden due to how long it is.

Is that possible using what you said, incase I read it wrong?

[agile spindle]

read the last thing i said

[cinder kestrel]

on every page
__NOTOC__ ?

[agile spindle]

that removes it entirely

he wants it to be collapsed by default

[cinder kestrel]

Oh . . . oh.

I know the solution--should I try to guess it right now or spend a minute finding the wiki I found it on?

<div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" data-expandtext="Open Table of Contents" data-collapsetext="Close Table of Contents">__TOC__</div>

[agile spindle]

personally i think if we auto collapse it people will not see the toc at all

[cinder kestrel]

And I just tested it on the wiki. It works.
Well, I will leave you to think about it. I must depart.

[edgy lagoon]

Well, the problem is the length of some of them.

[agile spindle]

it's either a tiny bit more scrolling for everyone or a ton more scrolling for less observant people

i prefer the former

besides if you didnt want it to be so long then you shouldnt have made an individual header for every single item

[edgy lagoon]

I mean, fair.

It's not really an issue of my tastes too much, I noticed some others chatting about the length before and I was thinking of ideas to help.

[agile spindle]

collapsing the toc is not a viable solution

[edgy lagoon]

I suppose.

[edgy lagoon]

@agile spindle I'm pretty sure the Visual Editor is default.

You press the edit button and it opens the page visual editor.

[agile spindle]

if it was the guy wouldn’t be complaining

[edgy lagoon]

Maybe he likes source edit better

[cursive vigil]

wow epic lie

like i totally believe you

[turbid ermine]

It's a bad copy / paste because he doesn't even know what he is doing.

[cursive vigil]

Osht I accidentally clicked on it

[cursive vigil]

what is it actually tho?

[turbid ermine]

Nothing wiki related. But don't worry, even if you execute it, it does nothing. runas /noprofile /user:mymachine\administrator yourbatchfile.bat

[edgy lagoon]

@fluid lagoon Mind deleting that file?

Thank you.

[lone radish]

what was it

[edgy lagoon]

A bat file, I'd rather not test it.

Anyways, wiki stuff.

[feral sky]

1. Does anyone know if oculus vr for this game supports touch controllers? 2. Is oculus vr compatible with the epic games store version of this game?
   *talking about original subnautica NOT below zero

[agile spindle]

then go to #subnautica-chat

[feral sky]

i did but they are having a seperate discussion

[agile spindle]

well here is the wrong location

try google

[feral sky]

real helpful

[edgy lagoon]

This isn't something you ask here to be fair.

[polar lodge]

is it confirmed that the current frozen leviathan model is just a placeholder?

because if so then the frozen leviathan page should be peer reviewed

[turbid ermine]

It is, and there was a checkin about that a few hours ago.

[agile spindle]

the frozen leviathan page states that

twice

[edgy lagoon]

Should we have cut items on there relative list pages? Such as the Terraformer and Transfuser on the tools page in a separate section at the bottom of the page, linking to their respective articles on the Cut Content page?

[agile spindle]

no

[summer kindle]

Someone get Ventgarden coordinates

[agile spindle]

pretty sure it’s still editor only

or i am wrong

[fluid lagoon]

have you just not looked at #below-zero-chat at all in the past like 30 minutes

[agile spindle]

no

i was at school the whole time

[edgy lagoon]

We need images for the ventgarden, if anyone's willing to take them.

[fluid lagoon]

good luck taking a good picture of it

[agile spindle]

kind of a waste of time

the model isnt done

[edgy lagoon]

Fair enough.

[fluid lagoon]

i'm hoping the recent checkin by sergey addresses some of the issues

[summer kindle]

Huh

Luke Adwick’s artstation is gone

Is it or is that only me

[gleaming island]

none on the wiki, cant find on art station either

[edgy lagoon]

Sorry for the double edit on the OG wiki, didn't remember the table was there until I had already hit publish.

On the fauna page, there's a trivia about the cut fauna. Can I add small descriptions for all the more recent ones? Not many, just Bloom Plankton, the Rock Puncher, and the Large Bird.

@summer kindle (Sorry for the tag) What do you think?

[summer kindle]

Sure

[edgy lagoon]

Got it, thanks for answering.

[edgy lagoon]

Erm, what are you referring to?

Fair.

[fluid lagoon]

uh

[agile spindle]

looks fine to me

[fluid lagoon]

what the hecc is happening

it's like this on every page for me

[still vortex]

it really REALLY wants you to know it's the fandom

[polar lodge]

I've noticed this on other wikis aswell, fandom really needs to get to fixing this.

[turbid ermine]

It didn't load Qualaroo.scss, maybe the cdn server was overloaded at the time.

[clever lion]

We've had several reports of this this morning. Our engineers are looking into why some users are seeing a broken page like this.

[turbid ermine]

They're probably on firefox like Vee.

Because I have that problem on firefox but not on chrome, on the https://slot1-images.wikia.nocookie.net/__am/1558034982680/ link, firefox doesn't load it.

[polar lodge]

using chrome, i got that issue but an hour later it was fixed

[edgy lagoon]

To be clear, the edit I undid was just a random screenshot from under the Ventgarden, with the his obstructing the view, which is why I undid it.

[polar lodge]

Part of the methane ice caves is actually deep arctic which means the deep arctic is technically 710m deep, Im 99.78% sure this was a mistake with biome positioning.

[dark vessel]

Is there a list of all scannable items & blueprints? IE if I want to 100% a game

[agile spindle]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Databank

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Blueprints

use the wiki for these kinds of things

[dark vessel]

thank you 😃

[edgy lagoon]

This edit confuses me.

[hallow basalt]

spaaaaace

[tepid swallow]

🤔

[ornate perch]

Someone should update the spy penguin

[calm phoenix]

I agree but before i complain more about the game I would like to say thank you for putting time into the game. It is hard to make a game this awesome and I think you did a good job

[agile spindle]

we dont make the game

[calm phoenix]

I know but I don't know how to give a fan letter to game makers and this is close enough

Bigger solar things or a poop bar so you can eject loaded diapers into the bio reactor

[edgy lagoon]

What

[cursive vigil]

What

[upbeat obsidian]

I wholeheartedly share the same sentiments as these 2 gentlemen above me.

[tepid swallow]

Same

[hallow basalt]

y e s

[remote leaf]

I kinda of would rather have another game exploring kharaa or the precursors than a subnautica 3

We already have the NS games

Meh

I just want to learn more about kharaa and the precursors

And how the kharaa we know in Subnautica became what it is in Natural Selection

[inland barn]

in the game it tells you all about the Kharaa

its pretty fascinating

[summer kindle]

It doesn’t tell you that much

There’s a whole lotta gaps

[remote leaf]

We dont know what planet kharaa is from

We dont know the exact number of planets it has infected

We dont know how it turned into the Kharaa in NS

[agile spindle]

it mutates

[summer kindle]

We got a fella

[remote leaf]

damn

was just about to post that

[agile spindle]

dont we already have mira

[cinder kestrel]

Wiki Managers are somewhat a bridge between us and her.

https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:MisterWoodhouse/Introducing_the_Fandom_Wiki_Managers_and_Content_Team

[edgy lagoon]

Well, I don't know if it's possible, but we should see about actually getting him in here.

It'd make conversing with him a bit easier.

[cinder kestrel]

It is possible, but it would mean sharing the link in public on the wiki.

[edgy lagoon]

True, maybe contact him through email?

[cinder kestrel]

https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:1669557

Now, it is less likely for the roleplayers on the wiki to find the Discord.

[remote leaf]

🤔

[agile spindle]

id really rather he not touch our css

[edgy lagoon]

We kinda already have a bot, don't we?

Is he really bringing anything new to the table?

[agile spindle]

no

[cinder kestrel]

If Flanqer uses something besides AutoWikiBrowser, then there is something new being brought to the table.

Otherwise--I guess we will have to wait and see.

[agile spindle]

what

[cinder kestrel]

Somebody is failing to update the entire system.

(I blame FANDOM for not being even greater than they already are at keeping this up-to-date)

[cinder kestrel]

This relates to the wiki because . . . ?

[edgy lagoon]

Why has nobody deleted this in over an hour

[clever lion]

Too late now, but I could have let Flanqer know privately to join the Discord here (once he has an account). 😁 He is indeed meant to fulfill an in-between role between me and the community. He is there for everyday requests and questions you might have, I'm available for when that's not enough to resolve the issue. Will's article linked above pretty much sums it up

[agile spindle]

is flanqer a volunteer?

or paid?

[clever lion]

He's a paid staff member. Fandom has volunteers, too, but those work on international wikis that are not in English for the most part

[edgy lagoon]

A year ago or so, I put the Lifepod 5 screenshots in. In over a year, nobody has noticed I left a steam notification in one of them by accident. I'll try to remember to fix it when I get home.

[agile spindle]

why are you telling us if you plan to fix it

[edgy lagoon]

Because I didn't want to keep it to myself.

[hallow basalt]

fun fact

[remote leaf]

[wet sand]

hmm

[agile spindle]

you already spammed that yesterday

@fluid lagoon

[ember saffron]

So, on the subnautica wiki, it says the mountain Island is north of Lifepod 5, when that’s incorrect and apparently it’s past the bulb zone, which is east I believe. Just a heads up, I could still be wrong

Edit: I meant northeast

Edit: I’m wrong, ignore me guys

[edgy lagoon]

[knotty steppe]

😖

[edgy lagoon]

I forgot to take the image.

[wet sand]

this isn't the right room to ask for that

[cursive vigil]

oh sorry

[light plume]

i didnt know it was alright to eat those guys

[edgy lagoon]

It's possible.

Doesn't mean moral to all.

[heady gulch]

it sfine

anything is edible if you cook it long enough

[polar lodge]

The top vent part of the ventgarden pushes you up about 10-20 meters. How could i put this information into the ventgarden page, would it fit under behaviour?

[lilac elbow]

What's the cheat code for unlocking all blueprints in the game

[agile spindle]

ask in #subnautica-chat

[cursive vigil]

unlockall

[lilac elbow]

I did they said to ask here

[agile spindle]

tell them we said this isnt the place for questions

and it is unlock all not unlockall

[cursive vigil]

Discord had stroke

And not according to the wiki

[agile spindle]

well the wiki is wrong

[cursive vigil]

Better fix it then

[edgy lagoon]

I'm pretty sure it's unlockall

For Subnautica base game at least.

[agile spindle]

i have not once used that command and it didn’t work in bz

they don’t remove commands so i highly doubt it works in sn

[edgy lagoon]

I am for certain it does, I've always used it.

Try it in game, I'm at school and cannot myself.

[lilac elbow]

It was unlock all it worked

[edgy lagoon]

I uploaded the concept Cory released earlier to the page.

The caption I gave it sounds a slight bit off, so if anyone has a better one.

[agile spindle]

add it to concept art

[edgy lagoon]

Oh yes, got it.

[pastel quartz]

[edgy lagoon]

Wait

Page is locked.

@agile spindle I can't add it.

[agile spindle]

fixed

[pastel quartz]

Can we post gifs here or do those count as memes?

[agile spindle]

what kind of gif

[pastel quartz]

A meme like gif so i guess not

[agile spindle]

why would this be the place for it

theres a #memes-and-media

[pastel quartz]

Dunno

[edgy lagoon]

I uploaded it to Concept Art. Thanks for reminding me to do so, Tueman.

[agile spindle]

the t is lowercase

[edgy lagoon]

Oh.

Why is this under developer

[fluid lagoon]

probably because it used to be all developer only screenshots

[edgy lagoon]

So should I move it to a new section, like "Photos"?

I'll just go ahead and do that.

[heady gulch]

hmm

weve done this before, just, look at a few other pages, the spinner fish page is one of them

and see how its separated the two categories.

I dont think that theres a consistency though on the tabber names throughout the different pages

[agile spindle]

there is consistency

I mean, until someone decided to call it "photos" like zero other pages on the wiki

looks like dino removed the picture anyway so its fine now

[edgy lagoon]

I called it photos because that's what it's called on the snowstalker page mate.

Literally I was trying to be consistent.

@agile spindle ^

[agile spindle]

the snowstalker page is wrong then

It’s “In Game”

[edgy lagoon]

Got it, I'll use that next time.

[edgy lagoon]

Anyone mind checking if the console command "nodamage" works on Subnautica?

I'm adding it as it appears on the Xbox's Gui but I want to make sure it isn't broken.

I also want to make sure it makes the player invincible, but I can't access a pc right now to check.

[cursive vigil]

jes it works but it is "noDamage"

[edgy lagoon]

Thank you for checking.

[gleaming island]

i haven't seen any bonesharks in tree spires

are they planned

[fluid lagoon]

did somebody put that on the page

because they're probably just coming in from the thermal spires

[agile spindle]

yes people keep insisting on adding it

looking at you anom

pretty sure i locked the page because of it but bip mightve unlocked it

[gleaming island]

i edited it

[cursive vigil]

i guess they have never heard of placeholders

[gleaming island]

i don't know how to delete a category
so please help

[agile spindle]

are you in source edit?

[gleaming island]

yes

[agile spindle]

bottom right

[gleaming island]

thanks, done

[edgy lagoon]

@agile spindle Literally what are you blaming me for here?

[agile spindle]

putting boneshark on the tree spires page

[edgy lagoon]

I've not yet once touched that page.

The only recent things I've done is minor edits to section names and adding some concept art to the proper places.

[polar lodge]

new flora added to tree spires, could we get a page set up for it?

[polar lodge]

Also the tree spires tree image is outdated

Which is why i added an updated one, why did you remove it?

[edgy lagoon]

Why did who remove one?

[polar lodge]

I added an updated trees spires tree image and you removed it

is there a reason in particular

[edgy lagoon]

I only changed the caption.

Did it revert to an older update?

[polar lodge]

yea

[edgy lagoon]

I think it may have, yea.

I'll add the newer one, give me a moment.

[polar lodge]

i replaced that image shortly after with a new one, sorry

[edgy lagoon]

There, I re-added it.

[polar lodge]

im guessing you changed the caption as i changed the image and it didn't count

thx

[edgy lagoon]

I think you replaced the image after I had started editing and I accidently replaced it with the version before.

[polar lodge]

it's fine, it's all fixed now

what's going to happen with the new flora, when are the new pages going to be added?

[agile spindle]

whenever dino makes them

you can make shell pages now if you want but make sure you follow the format exactly

[polar lodge]

ill try

[polar lodge]

Dinofuzz here's a temp page for one of the flora but I've been having alot of trouble adding this to the flora page, could you add them?

https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Unnamed_Flora

[agile spindle]

well

its not the worst attempt ive seen

[polar lodge]

It's the best i could do

[agile spindle]

ill fix it

[polar lodge]

perfect

we cant let it harm us anymore

[agile spindle]

in the future please name your images

[polar lodge]

soz

[agile spindle]

should we lift the ban on bugs on the SN wiki

we could start incorporating them into pages

[fluid lagoon]

why

[agile spindle]

why not

elder scrolls wiki does it

[fluid lagoon]

maybe if it was like
dangerous bugs

[agile spindle]

elder scrolls does all bugs

[fluid lagoon]

we would be spending 12 years and every page would be a mile long

[agile spindle]

i mean

we would only add the more well-known bugs

and obviously we'd limit it to reproducible bugs

[polar lodge]

Why can't I edit glow whale?

[agile spindle]

because people kept adding it to tree spires and i got pissed

[polar lodge]

But it does spawn in the tree spires, right?

[agile spindle]

no

[polar lodge]

What is it spawning in then?

[agile spindle]

lilypads

[polar lodge]

Ive also found a few peepers in tree spires, are they from lilypads?

[agile spindle]

yes

[edgy lagoon]

I can refer y'all to the Fallout wiki, which has a section just before Trivia that lists bugs with a platform icon to show what platforms the issues are on.

Here's an example on the page for the quest "Reunions"

There's only so many because this game is a buggy mess.

As for the time it would take, I'd be willing to verify as many as I can on Subnautica OG if it is decided to do this.

[cursive vigil]

So uhm, Can anyone explain to me what the wiki discussion is for? Just wondering

[agile spindle]

discussing the wiki

[cursive vigil]

mm ok

so like, the people that work on the wiki for subnautica chat here?

[agile spindle]

yes

we talk strictly about the wiki though

[cursive vigil]

kk

thanks for telling me that

[hallow stone]

So you’re the maniacs who wrote that thing?

Super useful. Thank you!

[cinder kestrel]

I am in favor of having bugs listed on the wiki, although it would probably be best to use a protected template to display them.

[edgy lagoon]

I would agree on that. If it wasn't protected in some way, people would just add random bugs that only happened a single time.

[cursive vigil]

Anybody seen the comment on the RAdiation page on the wiki?

Ryley is not dying of cancer now. He IS cancer

[fluid lagoon]

ok

[cursive vigil]

ok interesting

[agile spindle]

im surprised that the only wiki staff that has commented on the bugs thing is vee

[edgy lagoon]

Does SLS not count?

I know I don't.

[agile spindle]

oh i guess he did

[late island]

That feels like a nightmare

let's not

[agile spindle]

You barely even moderate the SN wiki

I know what I'm doing well enough to keep the bugs sections high quality

[late island]

There hasn't been too much groundbreaking new stuff to put on the wiki

[edgy lagoon]

I know I don't fully count as a staff to most here, but I'd be willing to manage a bugs section if given permission.

[late island]

And I only ever go on the wiki to edit pages

[remote leaf]

I honest wouldnt mind a bug section

[edgy lagoon]

And if we did it of course.

[late island]

There's too many bugs it'd be like 50 pages worth

[remote leaf]

Yeah

Just focus on bugs that are important

Like falling through terrain with prawn

[agile spindle]

Not if we keep it limited to reproducible bugs

[remote leaf]

Deconstructioning a moonpool that has a docked vehicle

[late island]

many bugs are reproducible

[agile spindle]

so what

people have been adding bugs to pages forever now

[edgy lagoon]

We could set a limit-per-page of bugs.

[remote leaf]

Bugs should just focus on things that can damage save files or result in lost of major items like the prawn

[edgy lagoon]

Like limit of 10 bugs per page or so if it really gets that bad.

And what Terran said.

It'd be useful to know what can break your game.

[agile spindle]

i think you guys overestimate how many reproducible, noticeable bugs there are

[remote leaf]

And it is useful to know about bugs that can result in you losing items

[agile spindle]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Template:Bugs

the ES wiki has this before each bug section

it helps keep the quality up

[edgy lagoon]

That would help, yea.

[edgy lagoon]

@agile spindle Why is all the random stuff only ever posted on your wall

[agile spindle]

because im the most active admin

[edgy lagoon]

That makes sense.

[cursive vigil]

Prepare to be chewed out by the wiki keepers

[remote leaf]

[agile spindle]

if youre not gonna be on topic go to #off-topic

[edgy lagoon]

Hey, sorry to bother, but are we planning on actually adding the Bugs section, or does it need to be debated more?

Not trying to rush, just curious.

[agile spindle]

i want bips opinion

yes

[edgy lagoon]

Understandable, I shall wait for his comment then. Thank you for the answer, sir.

[agile spindle]

why are you talking like that

[edgy lagoon]

Like what?

[agile spindle]

"shall" and "sir"

[edgy lagoon]

Well, I use words like Shall because they sound better, and I refer to you as Sir because I see you as an authorative figure, just as I see everyone else on the team.

[agile spindle]

why

[edgy lagoon]

Because I think of my peers as higher than me.

[agile spindle]

ok well either way dont call me sir

its weird

[edgy lagoon]

Oh, okay. My apologies.

[edgy lagoon]

I like being on topic

[tepid swallow]

What ?

"Ice dragon nests" ? Since when XD

[gleaming island]

Brute sharks, arrow rays and hoopfish now spawn in treespires

And red feather fish

The page is protected btw

[agile spindle]

so unprotect it

[gaunt igloo]

What about Spy penguin & Spy penguin remote fragments mentioned in glacial basin

I don't see any thing mentioning them on the page

[agile spindle]

so add it

[gaunt igloo]

Done https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Glacial_Basin

Also this is interesting https://favro.com/organization/35200a08dbbad85b26102638/0d9378db42299691bb14c708?card=Unk-4635

[cursive vigil]

That’s kinda cool, actually

[gaunt igloo]

Yeah. Now people have there 4th priority. Shelter.

[agile spindle]

@heady gulch what do you think of lifting the ban on bugs on the SN wiki?

[lone radish]

@gaunt igloo are you annoyed by a survival game?

[agile spindle]

i’ve got templates to deal with it set up already

[heady gulch]

Pardon? Bugs?

[edgy lagoon]

Yea, a lot of people want a bugs section.

[agile spindle]

yea currently we don’t allow bugs to be put on the wiki but i think it’s time to allow them

obviously just bugs that can be reproduced consistently

[heady gulch]

Well I think it would overflow honestly.

You would have people probably posting the same bug but saying “oh well it did so and so different than so and so’s report so I’ll put it in anyways.”

[agile spindle]

we can determine what bugs can go on the wiki

[heady gulch]

Alright. The other thing is if bugs are patched constantly in experimental updates, we’ll have to remove them. And peolple not running that experimental version will complain and put the bugs back up. Unless someone constantly keeps track of what bugs are removed and lists the experimental version it was removed in.

It’s too much strain and effort.

[agile spindle]

is the experimental version actually different still?

[edgy lagoon]

Certain bugs are still there and have been for ages, like the Prawn Falling Through Terrain bug.

[heady gulch]

An alternative, I’m thinking rn. I’m not sure. I haven’t played Subnautica in months. And I plan on getting a lot more engaged with the wiki once school is over in a few days. But an alternative could be a protected page, users can post the bug in the comments following set up parameters for reporting it. We put up any current bugs. Categorize the pages under things like fauna, mechanics, etc.

Let’s say the prawnsuit is causing issues, in the trivia put a link to the page on bugs and the category the prawnsuit’s issue falls under.

Just a rough idea

[agile spindle]

like a page called “Bugs” or “Prawn Suit/Bugs”?

[edgy lagoon]

I think just a bugs section is better tbh, but it's up to y'all.

I like the way the Fallout wiki does it.

[cursive vigil]

^

[heady gulch]

A page called active bugs. Always has to be kept up to date. For linking pages to the active bugs page, use a link to the paragraph the bug falls under so it would be easier to find it. I don’t think a category on Page of said afflicted item, mechanic, fauna. Or vehicle would be necessary though. I haven’t seen how the fallout wiki handles that

[edgy lagoon]

Like this

This is at the very end of an article, just before trivia

[heady gulch]

Alright. That should do it. Will all bugs be put in? Minor ones included? And how will we log if a bug is patched up or not.

[agile spindle]

it has to be consistently reproducible

[edgy lagoon]

^

As for patches bugs, we should just remove them.

[heady gulch]

Alright, i think it’ll work

[agile spindle]

i also modified the {{Bugs}} template from the ES wiki to dump at the start of each section

[edgy lagoon]

By the way, for that template, I'd suggest kinda condensing it a little.

[edgy lagoon]

Later I'm going to start a reorganization of the Concept Art page on the Subnautica OG wiki to more match the Below Zero wiki's page, if that is fine.

[edgy lagoon]

Okay, so if art kinda goes in the same category yet starts with different letters (they're currently alphabetical) should I move them together or keep them alphabetical?

I'm mostly reffering to the Aurora Interior and Aurora Exterior arts being split by the Degasi.

[agile spindle]

alphabetically by general subject

aurora is a general subject, degasi is another, etc etc

[edgy lagoon]

Ah, got it, thank you.

[cinder kestrel]

If they are general subjects, then why are they in #📚wiki-discussion and not #off-topic ?

[edgy lagoon]

Nevermind

You joke am stupid

[cinder kestrel]

(It was a jok)--nevermind.

[edgy lagoon]

Terribly sorry, I'm very slow lmao.

Would "Aurora Debris (1-2)" be counted as Wreck Concept Art or Aurora Concept Art?

[agile spindle]

wreck

[edgy lagoon]

Got it, thanks again.

[edgy lagoon]

Should we split Technology into Vehicles, Tools, and Equipments since theirs so much, or leave it as one big one?

[agile spindle]

leave it

[edgy lagoon]

Got it.

[edgy lagoon]

Would the Hanging Warper go under Disease Research Facility or stay near the bottom in a kind of Technology section?

[agile spindle]

either one it doesnt matter

[edgy lagoon]

Thank you kindly.

Well, I uploaded the edit.

If anyone wants to revise it and make sure I didn't screw up somewhere (I probably did) please do so.

[agile spindle]

I shortened the {{Bugs}} template if you wanna start using it

personally i can only think of like one or two bugs total lol but knock yourself out

[edgy lagoon]

So does that mean start making them?

I can playtest afterschool tomorrow (we get out at 1:42) and I'll be able to playtest to all hell to find bugs.

[agile spindle]

sure

[cinder kestrel]

You are typing.

[edgy lagoon]

Are we still waiting for bips approval to actually push them to the wiki or is it alrady clear? Sorry if I'm repeating myself, I just want to be sure.

Yes I am.

[agile spindle]

i think its fine

[edgy lagoon]

Works for me I suppose.

By the way, I'm still terribly confused, where can I look up templates?

[agile spindle]

/wiki/Template:Bugs

[edgy lagoon]

Would it be okay if I re-added the black background and fixed the first sentence? I liked that background.

[agile spindle]

the background was bad

but you can change the sentence

[edgy lagoon]

Oh, okay.

Oh, I see, the template was just messed up on it's page alone.

Nevermind, I was wrong about the first sentence.

Do I put a bugs section before or after trivia?

[agile spindle]

after

[edgy lagoon]

Thank you.

Should we do something similar to the Fallout Wiki with a verified message beside verified bugs, or no since that's already mentioned in the bug template message?

[agile spindle]

no

[edgy lagoon]

Got it, thanks.

[cinder kestrel]

https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Subnautica_Wiki?useskin=wikiamobile is not looking very good.

[agile spindle]

no one looks at the front page anyway

[cinder kestrel]

I just did.

I know: that's why you said "no one."

[edgy lagoon]

You count as a negative person, so the one other dude that did too is negated by you.

[delicate crag]

😂

i mean, what is wrong with it? you say its not good, but give us context.

its alright by me. but guess my opinion is irrelevant, i am not a content creator.

@cinder kestrel

[cinder kestrel]

The only ones who can fix it are the administrators.

[agile spindle]

and content mods, which you are

[edgy lagoon]

For the bug labels, could we use more visually appealing labels like tiny images that show what platform while also looking nice? Such as a tiny icon of the Windows logo for PC or a small Xbox logo for Xbox?

[agile spindle]

if you can upload them

[edgy lagoon]

I'll upload them in a bit, but I ain't keen on template making.

[agile spindle]

literally just make the template be the link

[edgy lagoon]

Oh

I thought there was more to it, okay. Thanks.

[agile spindle]

a template just dumps the content of its own page wherever it’s called

so if the content of Template:Bugs is just [[Bugs]] then that’s exactly what will show up

[edgy lagoon]

I see, that makes sense. Thanks.

[edgy lagoon]

How does that look @agile spindle?

Apple logo looks a little off though, so I may need to fix that, but the others.

[agile spindle]

how does what look

[edgy lagoon]

I uploaded the logos, check the Lifepod page.

[agile spindle]

they’re kinda small

[edgy lagoon]

They are meant to be, but if you want the bigger, I can increase the size. They're at 12px rn.

[agile spindle]

do that

[edgy lagoon]

Make them bigger?

[agile spindle]

yes

[edgy lagoon]

Oh, okay. Any size in particular?

[agile spindle]

just bigger

[edgy lagoon]

Well, let's try 20 then. Give me a moment.

That better?

[agile spindle]

yes

[edgy lagoon]

Kk

Should we make a combined mac/pc icon or keep them separate?

[agile spindle]

separate

[edgy lagoon]

Not like combine the logos.

Oh ok

🖥 I was thinking something like this if we did.

I'll fix the Apple icon later

[edgy lagoon]

Ventgarden page still needs some screenshots. If nobody plans to do that, I'll be home at about 2pm pst and probably'll do it then.

[edgy lagoon]

For clarification, is this a Ventgarden breathing?

I don't want to put false information in the caption of an image.

[fluid lagoon]

@summer kindle

[summer kindle]

I wouldn’t say so