They're old af but they work
#📚wiki-discussion
edgy lagoon
Since they're development screenshots and not by me, do I have to give them a copyright label or just leave it blank?
agile spindle
i put the top option for every picture
edgy lagoon
None or Fair Use?
agile spindle
fair use
edgy lagoon
Both images already existed lmao
But one of them is litterally just named "PDA Hand"
How would I have guessed that
spice compass
I want to send a picture, but it's very spoilery.
agile spindle
is it wiki-relevant
fluid lagoon
this is literally the wiki channel you think spoilers matter in here
cinder kestrel
Hmm. If Ryley brought his thumb and index finger closer together, and I viewed this below my waist . . .
spice compass
fluid lagoon
can we demote SLS
cinder kestrel
can we demote SLS
My bot, which is an administrator, or me, who is not an administrator?
edgy lagoon
How's this look?
agile spindle
looks good
edgy lagoon
👌
spice compass
I am actually the one who added the trivia for the Pengwing.
fluid lagoon
ok
agile spindle
story
edgy lagoon
Got it.
agile spindle
and the pengwing trivia is a complete assumption
I thought I removed it already, honestly
agile spindle
obviously 2d
edgy lagoon
Should I add that one too?
agile spindle
yes
spice compass
Damn, that's old.
edgy lagoon
August 14th, 2014 most likely.
Somehow the water in that build looks better than the initial 1st release on December 16th of the same year.
agile spindle
its not a model it's a texture
and mentioning month/day is useless without the year
edgy lagoon
I'll fix both of those.
edgy lagoon
agile spindle
split Aurora Concept Art into two links
and you changed 14th to 18th was that intentional?
edgy lagoon
Yes, I looked at the day the trello card was marked complete and it was on the 18th, the 14th was the build date of the game version.
I also found this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2-1Zhl5FVQ
agile spindle
I think correct grammar is "the Aurora changed" not "the Aurora had changed"
edgy lagoon
Fixed that
In that video you can actually see weather
Like they had it working
There's a thunderstorm while Hugh is testing
There's also only two trello cards on it
Not counting the testing one I found that video on.
@agile spindle Split it into two links?
[[Aurora]] [[Concept Art]]?
agile spindle
ya
edgy lagoon
Oh
edgy lagoon
Blueprimt
That development video is really interesting because it's the only case I've actually seen weather finished in the game.
edgy lagoon
I finally added some images into the weather gallery.
The the rain one is hard to make out
This is the only segment I could get rain in.
If you look close you can see it on the sides.
edgy lagoon
I found info on how random terrain generation would have worked.
Would this go under Game Mechanics?
Guess I should wait 'till morning.
tawny helm
so on the "vehicles" page there are the stats for the prawn suit but on the prawn suit page, there are no stats
pseudo fossil
what is it for?
frail dragon
What?
proper needle
🤔
candid tulip
There was a suspicious link
hybrid bear
Are you getting the weird free Amazon card thing?
If so, you might need to delete any cookies you’ve received from the wiki
coarse onyx
It was a link too "free steam 20$ card"
summer kindle
No it was a message in here not on the wiki
coarse onyx
Yes
cinder kestrel
I think correct grammar is "the Aurora changed" not "the Aurora had changed"
One is passive voice while the other is active. Active is always preferred.
agile spindle
the latter doesnt sound right to me in this context
cinder kestrel
You chose correctly.
edgy lagoon
Now that everyone's awake, I must check. Would this model be considered an older model?
granite sandal
the colors
agile spindle
looks the same to me
edgy lagoon
From just looking at it, it does look the same to me, but I always felt they changed the old model out at some point.
Either way, if that is the same as the current, someone can add it to the gallery.
Also I'm going to redo that gallery because it's got a lot of unecessary photos.
agile spindle
it looks the same as the current pre-explosion model
edgy lagoon
The bottom one is a fully restored model
The top is the pre-explosion model
I'm pretty sure they're from before the Aurora could explode.
@agile spindle Would terrain generation go under Game Mechanics?
agile spindle
ya
edgy lagoon
Thanks.
fluid lagoon
oh right
i forgot what the aurora looked like because BZ is the superior game
agile spindle
_>
edgy lagoon
I mean, I won't say your wrong. It's being developed far better than the first was.
edgy lagoon
How's this?
edgy lagoon
Damnit I'll fix that
agile spindle
also terrain generation should be above weather
frail dragon
"little things"
edgy lagoon
Shut your mouth lee
agile spindle
@summer kindle you created some double redirects accidentally and I don't want to mess with your stuff https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Special:DoubleRedirects
summer kindle
sorted
edgy lagoon
If anyone is willing to help me out
Cut Content still needs a description for Lodestone.
Still searching for info on that material.
edgy lagoon
Why is the Fox3D render in two different tabs on the Aurora page
Ones on the Screenshots tab and ones on the Concept Art tab
agile spindle
well theyre both in the wrong tab
edgy lagoon
Then should I make a new tab for it?
agile spindle
ya
agile spindle
Other or Development
edgy lagoon
👌
I'm thinking about taking new images for the gallery. Would you recommend doing so with fog on or off?
agile spindle
on
edgy lagoon
Yes sir
edgy lagoon
Should I make a section on the cut version of the Aurora, Pre-PRAWN Update?
agile spindle
keep it in the same section
edgy lagoon
So don't make a second aurora section?
agile spindle
no
edgy lagoon
Oh, okay.
Oh wait, I could do sub sections of the sub section
Would that work?
==Story== ===Aurora=== ====Pre-Early Access==== (Blah) ====Pre-PRAWN Update=== (Blah)
@agile spindle would that work?
agile spindle
Just cram it all together
I'd rather the TOC not get too long
honestly we might be wanting to remove the TOC altogether at this point
edgy lagoon
I mean I still find it useful in naviagation, it's just really long
It would be nice if we could make it split into collums.
Or give it alphabetical tabs.
agile spindle
we can't modify the TOC at all
edgy lagoon
I cri
frail dragon
like i said earlier, maybe the expand things or something
edgy lagoon
I mean it would significantly shorten the top of the page, but also make it a bit more difficult to navigate.
But lee that wouldn't help with the TOC
frail dragon
you can collapse the TOC
edgy lagoon
Can you?
agile spindle
by the time people realize they want to collapse the TOC they're already halfway down it
edgy lagoon
The TOC is very useful for navigation. I often use it to navigate the page in preview when I'm editing to see my edits.
And it's hard to find what you want without it imo.
So we're still saying don't split it into two sub sections, right?
Just making sure.
agile spindle
yes
edgy lagoon
Got it.
edgy lagoon
I just went through all my screenshots and I noticed how dark they were. Is this too dark to put on the wiki?
I can go through again and retake them without the Filmic Filter to see if that helps
Yea turning off filmic made it better
agile spindle
never take pictures with filters
edgy lagoon
Oh okay
edgy lagoon
I uploaded the new gallery edits.
I also went back and retook every interior screenshot without the filter. You can actually see it now, can confirm.
edgy lagoon
Oh
frail dragon
btw with the weather sounds...
Wind Effects Heavy (One) is the sound after the Aurora explodes
Wind Effects Best Wind plays when above water, and gets louder the higher you go... it is very noticeable on the floating island
edgy lagoon
Well what sections are you suggestin' I split the interior into?
agile spindle
idk
edgy lagoon
Hm
agile spindle
@frail dragon i dont think the explosion wind sound lasts that long
frail dragon
sounds like it though
agile spindle
it could have been reused and cut short though
frail dragon
maybe a cut - yeah
agile spindle
i agree the first half definitely sounds the same
frail dragon
the script fading out the volume of it is also possible but i doubt it
edgy lagoon
They sound the same but it's the same thing Tueman said.
The explosion wind is stored in the explosion sound file.
So the wind that I found is likely the original and the explosion wind was reused.
Also I added the categorization @agile spindle
I might change it around if I take more images.
agile spindle
looks good
edgy lagoon
Are these still in the game?
agile spindle
doesnt look familiar
late island
I'm not sure
it looks similar to other things but I don't think I've seen it
if it is anywhere it'd probably be on the Floating Island
edgy lagoon
They're labeled as having appeared in the Safe Shallows (That was called the Coral Reef during this time in development)
They look like they also would have appeared in the Kelp Forest.
I don't believe I've ever seen them before though.
agile spindle
they arent in the safe shallows i can tell you that much
hallow basalt
they aren't
edgy lagoon
Well, I'll add them to the cut fauna then once I finish on the Aurora section
agile spindle
flora
spice tiger
They do look cool
agile spindle
@late island are you able to open up the Subnautica asset bundles with AssetStudio? mine crashes
cursive vigil
Those looks like Creepvine but the very first version.
edgy lagoon
The fact the Update History page doesn't split the updates into categories annoys me.
I'm going to fix it later.
@cursive vigil I can see where you'd find that.
cursive vigil
I found it, in Subnautica. 
agile spindle
mine tries loading it for a second or two and then just shuts off
specifically the one from SN, BZ works fine
late island
I know I can't extract the sprites from SN
but that doesn't have anything to do with assetstudio
agile spindle
I have a hunch as to the reason, I'm just gonna reinstall it
summer kindle
I wanna get rid of the custom names for admin and bureaucrat on the SN wiki
but I don't remember how I even added them in the first place
it doesn't seem to be on the wikia.css, common.css or js pages
summer kindle
oh I thought it was something like that
couldn't remember what it was called at all
that admin one is a mystery though
admin, admins, administrator, administrators
none work
summer kindle
sysop
I thought that was a different thing entirel
y
we'll keep the custom founder role though
edgy lagoon
Halfway through the Update History page someone changed from doing (Date): (Update Name) to (Update Name) - (Date)
Should I keep those date timestamps on the Update History section?
frail dragon
explain: "Compost Creepvine was a special type of Creepvine substance that"
that what?
edgy lagoon
Did I not finish the description?
frail dragon
no you didn't
summer kindle
Compost creepvine is the name of the option that came up with the old bioreactor
does it exist as an item for some reason?
edgy lagoon
Yes, it has it's own ID.
Composting is also mentioned multiple times in the Minimum Viable Subnautica documentation.
@frail dragon You up for adding something for me, since I'm bust atm?
frail dragon
yes
edgy lagoon
Add the Composter (search it if you can't find it) and refrence this document.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kd4YTHJz2K4ERdGRfJB-8M7_32Q23clIBRqEMrLmysk/edit#
Refrence name is already set.
When using refrence, do <ref name=Document />
At least I believe the name is Document.
If it's not just check one of the other 10 references.
Which looks better?
agile spindle
first one
edgy lagoon
Got it.
The first one doesn't look as good on the TOC though.
It's not as bad on these ones.
agile spindle
looks fine
edgy lagoon
Specifically this big boi
agile spindle
edgy lagoon
Wait, so should I do it like that then?
frail dragon
wow in these old documents they were really optimal
all the stuff they planned on was pretty unrealistic
agile spindle
yes follow my format
frail dragon
5000 meters??
agile spindle
I like the idea of plan optimistically and then slash and burn what you dont need
it's easier to refine your game plan that way
edgy lagoon
Your format might not work for Subnautica since all minor updates were given actual names.
Along with that, updates weren't parented under major updates in the first game. Instead they were independent, such as the case with Update 67.
agile spindle
well then come up with a new system that looks nice
agile spindle
sure
edgy lagoon
That doesn't sound very confident lmao
agile spindle
neither do you asking me to double check every edit but you're doing fine anyway
edgy lagoon
@frail dragon Did you ever finish that item?
@agile spindle what should I name the unnamed developer updates from before EA
agile spindle
what does the current page call them
edgy lagoon
Nothing, it just has the date.
agile spindle
title them based on the date
edgy lagoon
So put the date as the title?
agile spindle
something like that
edgy lagoon
Guess I can do that.
Whoever designed this page made the PC Updates ascending and the Xbox Updates descending.
I uploaded the new organization.
edgy lagoon
Updated the Aurora Section of the Cut Content page.
hallow basalt
when is anom gonna get wiki keeper btw
agile spindle
im gonna be the devils advocate here and say that updating the model doesnt really make the old model cut content
edgy lagoon
I mean
It wasn't primarily for the model, mostly the interior.
I just mentioned the model stuff because I thought it would help the interior fit more.
edgy lagoon
I'll look into what to remove I suppose.
edgy lagoon
Well, think of it like this. When you update something, you cut the old version and add a new version using parts from that old version.
Does my way of thinking make sense?
agile spindle
were that the case you'd have to list out every single thing that was changed during development
old recipes, old debug names, old textures
hallow basalt
yeah but if the idea and concept is still the same it'd be the same content, wouldn't it
agile spindle
they weren't really cut just made better
cut content would be something that is no longer in the game except through cheating/datamining
also, T is after S
and cave crawler is before kharaa
edgy lagoon
Why is the Transfuser it's own section wtf
hallow basalt
transfuser is too powerful
summer kindle
Fun fact the Mohawk plant had that scrapped property of the Brain Coral where it would turn white in BZ for a while
agile spindle
oh since transfuser is not its own section DNA effects should be at the top of the section
summer kindle
But I made a bug report about the Mohawk breaking into several entire Mohawks if knifed 5 times and they fixed that and removed it going white at the same time
Sad
edgy lagoon
DNA Effects are parented under Transfuser.
edgy lagoon
Got it
summer kindle
Should Lilypads count as cut content since some of those Lilypads models were made back in SN days
fluid lagoon
yeehaw
agile spindle
sure
if you know which ones tho
i mean the biome can go in but the pictures need to be confirmed
edgy lagoon
I'll add both the plant and biome if noone else is going to.
Just don't edit it right now since I am
agile spindle
if we dont know which models are from back then add just the biome not the plant
summer kindle
Well they have publishing dates
agile spindle
oh you mean on sketchfab?
edgy lagoon
Would a Hyperbaric Welder just be a welder?
summer kindle
edgy lagoon
I mean one from in game, a Repair Tool
edgy lagoon
What would a Composter go under?
agile spindle
sounds like a game mechanic or a seabase part
edgy lagoon
I'll go with Seabase Part, as I put Composting as a game mechanic.
Added Composting, Composter, and Compost Creepvine to the Cut Content page, as well as reorganized multiple items on it per instructions.
agile spindle
still need to move tools down
edgy lagoon
Fixed.
edgy lagoon
What's the name of the Lillypad Biome Concept Art?
On the wiki I mean
Nevermind I found it.
agile spindle
after clicking random buttons 100 times i managed to fix it
each of those individual concepts are there yes
edgy lagoon
Oh okay
agile spindle
though im not entirely sure where the holefish one is from
edgy lagoon
Finally I have an image for what Zinc looked like.
Found it in the Pisces Build Playtest.
edgy lagoon
Oh, in the Pisces Playtest, the Aurora is still the original 2D one.
Also aren't these Grabcrabs?
agile spindle
looks like a sandworm to me
edgy lagoon
Here,s a Grabcrab in the Entgal
They do look different
But they look like the same creature
agile spindle
uh maybe
edgy lagoon
What I wonder is what that thing is below them.
agile spindle
the small things on the left?
edgy lagoon
No the four claws sticking from the ground.
edgy lagoon
Very similar designs.
Added the Lillypad Islands to the Cut Content page.
Also added an image for Zinc.
late island
Is tile set the right word for this?
I thought it was like a chunk or something similar
edgy lagoon
It's what the Trello Card said.
If you would like to change it, feel free.
So what creature can we narrow this down to?
edgy lagoon
Maybe there was.
late island
As for that thing
it looks like the Grabcrab model in the place of the Sandworm
could be either of them.
edgy lagoon
Huh. So should I refrain from putting it under anything?
edgy lagoon
Actually I don't belive I made the grab crab one yet
late island
Well there is a Grabcrab in the pic
edgy lagoon
I'll add it there then.
Should I add this image to the Aurora one or do we have enough?
agile spindle
nah we already have two of that texture
edgy lagoon
Got it.
Added two more tiles to the tileset section. LavaCastleTile and LavaCornerTile
agile spindle
this talk of subnautica tilesets is making me crave a SN DnD campaign
edgy lagoon
Lmao
edgy lagoon
holy christ what the hell
@late island Weren't there two Grab Crabs?
The one in the Entity Gallery and the one in the Concept Art?
late island
I mean that is a clearer image of a the Aurora I think
Also two Grab Crabs?
I only remember one
edgy lagoon
I heard somewhere this was also called a Grab Crab.
agile spindle
yeah thats the concept art for it
agile spindle
sure
cinder kestrel
No "newest newbie" has claimed you are badge-farming yet. I like it when people on the wiki are so well-behaved.
Like I said: well-behaved.
agile spindle
thats caused i blocked the guy who was accusing
cinder kestrel
Some newbie would say that.
edgy lagoon
Someone did say that.
Unknown.
Before he was blocked of course.
He claimed I was badge farming because I fixed Peeper101s edits.
cinder kestrel
Please do not ask.
agile spindle
🤔
edgy lagoon
wh
cinder kestrel
I assume you understand why that happened.
agile spindle
you deleted the longest comment chain in history?
cinder kestrel
I was wanting to delete a spam comment and did this.
agile spindle
🤦
edgy lagoon
Sls what the hell
agile spindle
truly the breed of a new era
edgy lagoon
375 revisions restored
edgy lagoon
Hah jokes on everyone I know have the first wiki activity in the list
Added Grab Crab to the list of Fauna on the Cut Content page.
agile spindle
ah if only dottedfish could see what we made of his creation
edgy lagoon
Who was that?
agile spindle
edgy lagoon
I'm still quite new to the wiki.
cinder kestrel
Dottedfish is the founder.
agile spindle
this is relevant to you i believe ^
cinder kestrel
edgy lagoon
That is relevant to me. I can write that for Carbon.
Added the Stalker dropping Carbon info to Carbon.
I now own the only two edits on the Recent Wiki Activity page.
I am become god.
late island
so wait how should we do the new icons if we can actually extract them with the bg in
agile spindle
I'm not sure what you're asking
edgy lagoon
Oh and @cinder kestrel, that list of how many files I've uploaded recently is wrong.
I've uploaded over 50 for sure.
Recently.
late island
which image do we scale to fit the other
I think the current icons all have the background scaled to fit the icon
agile spindle
How big is each?
late island
but if we're gonna be accurate to the game it's the icons that are scaled
agile spindle
@late island is there a visible difference between the two methods?
if not we should probably go for accuracy
cinder kestrel
It would appear that this does not equate Special:WikiActivity.
late island
the accurate one is to keep the icon at base resolution and scale the items to them
late island
the one we've been using for all of our many item icons is to scale the background to the item
hollow patrol
on the wiki so far, it looks like the bgs were scaled to the icons
the game scales the icons to the bgs
late island
so now there's the issue of consistency
cinder kestrel
If you want more work to do, anomgay, I would recommend going for a run.
hollow patrol
yeah so stay consistent with wiki or more accurate to the game
agile spindle
Do they actually look any different?
cinder kestrel
I have no idea what time zone you live in, but just go and run--around the world once or twice.
edgy lagoon
Would do that but I'm asthmatic and currently value my life.
hollow patrol
the border will be thinner and the icon will be more blurry with the game's method. the border would be thicker and the icon, although smaller, would probably be less blurry
just because of anti-alias scaling
agile spindle
it looks better our way
late island
the wiki uses the sprites at base resolution
agile spindle
I think we should keep it consistent on the wiki
late island
hm
I do usually prefer accuracy
but my main issue is all of the other item cons we'd have to replace
which I don't suppose there's an easy way to do
agile spindle
If we'd known this at first obviously I'd opt for accuracy
But really you're the one who does icons so it's 100% your choice
late island
I mean I've only done a few of the new icons because I had to
hollow patrol
if you want to, I can set up something to auto extract all the icons with bgs
late island
and I'd just built that using a background pieced together from our old icons
hollow patrol
or we can just scale the bgs down for the new icons
late island
A program that auto extracts like SSE would be useful
then whenever we get a new one we could just boot it up
I guess for the sake of not going through and replacing however many icons there are because I assume there isn't a bot advanced enough to do that on here
let's just use our old russian wiki method of scaling the backgrounds up to 128px
agile spindle
sounds good
hollow patrol
gotcha, I'll get started on it then
edgy lagoon
What do you guys use to view the in-game assests?
agile spindle
unity asset studio
edgy lagoon
Is it free?
agile spindle
yes
hollow patrol
edgy lagoon
I'm happy you've linked me this, because I just found the Grab Crab sounds that aren't anywhere else.
agile spindle
last i checked sounds were stored elsewhere
hollow patrol
yeah I was gonna say usually those are in the fmod banks
edgy lagoon
I opened the asset bundles and they were there
I opened them for the first game release
I can't legally send them but I'm gonna upload them to the wiki in a minute.
After I figure out how to download them lmao
agile spindle
right click and export
edgy lagoon
Done.
hollow patrol
seems easier to use the fmod extractor, it has all of the sounds of the latest version, exports them all at once, and converts them to ogg for the wiki
edgy lagoon
There's also two audio files that might be for the Slime.
agile spindle
Yeah that's what we usually do nes
edgy lagoon
slimed and slimed2
agile spindle
I assume anom couldnt find those sounds in the banks?
edgy lagoon
I extracted the latest game's and they were not there.
I have never heard these sounds before.
hollow patrol
hm ok
edgy lagoon
Hold on tueman let me show ya
agile spindle
did you try the older release's banks?
edgy lagoon
Not yet, I should probably do that.
Holy christ this is a plethra of things for me to use
So many cut resources.
There's icons here that I don't think people knew were icons.
agile spindle
the real miracle is that its in one texture
edgy lagoon
Is that a problem on the BZ wiki for y'all?
Or is that a problem in the latest version of the game?
edgy lagoon
Big yike
hollow patrol
Bg isn't even a file it's just shader code now so it makes it even worse
edgy lagoon
Kelp Forest Egg
They both use the same image, this one just has slightly off colors.
Huh
One of the tools cut in early development has a icon.
agile spindle
edgy lagoon
hm
agile spindle
its driving me crazy i swear ive seen that icon somewhere
edgy lagoon
Funnily enough, the PRAWN icon is present even though the PRAWN wasn't even made until many updates later.
Oh also
There's an even older intro than the monolouge.
I'll have to steal the audio from Hugh's video, but it's basically just sound.
edgy lagoon
What item is in the files?
late island
the egg
edgy lagoon
This is the oldest intro known of.
There's no version (to my knowledge) without the odd water audio.
Specifically since it's only from a single video.
In the old final cutscene video, should I leave in the credits?
agile spindle
yes
edgy lagoon
Got it, thanks.
late island
why not cut the pause out?
edgy lagoon
It's the website I used. I proabably could try that.
Exporting the video now.
How can I directly upload a .mp4 file?
Without uploading it to a video service?
edgy lagoon
Good idea.
edgy lagoon
How would I make the video not cut into the next section without adding a ton of spaces?
Cause it's doing this
fluid lagoon
why does your description of the cave crawler ending not even contain a single mention of what it's named after
edgy lagoon
I can write that.
agile spindle
and the sea emperor dialogue is cut out
edgy lagoon
There is none.
agile spindle
exactly
edgy lagoon
Are you saying to write that?
edgy lagoon
agile spindle
is |right|150px not working?
edgy lagoon
It still cut into the side if I put it below. I think it looks a bit better when it shows up like that.
Do you dislike that style @agile spindle?
agile spindle
its fine
fluid lagoon
for the love of god i'm going to have to write the description myself later
agile spindle
vee and i would make a great good cop bad cop
edgy lagoon
I agree.
@fluid lagoon Go ahead if you'd like, it doesn't matter to me.
You probably know more on this ending than I do.
fluid lagoon
no your desc is just bad
edgy lagoon
That's very nice vee.
late island
Someone's gotta say it
edgy lagoon
Then fix it.
If you dislike how I do it, fix it to your liking.
@agile spindle On the Dialogue page, am I still making a section on the same page for cut dialogue (as oppose to making a new page)?
agile spindle
yes
agile spindle
i think they dont like that you dont mention the cave crawler at all
edgy lagoon
Am I mentioning the wrong type of Cave Crawler?
agile spindle
i mean the one that crawls across the screen
you say the name of the ending but you dont mention the one we see
agile spindle
?
late island
anom it's right there at the end
agile spindle
have you watched the cutscene?
late island
did you not question the name
edgy lagoon
I've somehow managed to skip over that single second every time I watched it.
I feel dumbfounded.
late island
anomblind
edgy lagoon
Accurate holy jesus I am an idiot.
fluid lagoon
i keep screaming into the abyss but god doesn't answer
edgy lagoon
Okay I uploaded it with the actual information that it should have had.
I'm deeply sorry for being such an idiot.
Anyways, if anyone knows locations of older signals, please do say.
I need to go to bed, but when I wake up I'm going to be adding as many cut signals as possible
So me needing to find less will make it easier.
summer kindle
Here's that Mohawk thing I mentioned the other day
This and the dead brain coral were both hangovers from a coral bleaching thing they were going to do but scrapped
also the Sandworm could be spawned at some point in Subnautica
agile spindle
badge farming smh
cursive vigil
but its BippityBoppity
hallow basalt
true pain
summer kindle
It’s a lot easier to edit the cut content page like that than it is to go through the whole thing in edit mode
agile spindle
just use preview
edgy lagoon
I take the time to scroll through the whole cut content page because then I can do more in less edits and people won't complain about me "badge farming"
I also like it better.
edgy lagoon
I started feeling self conscious.
edgy lagoon
I've got a lot of work cut out for me.
I know it was a bad joke I regret making it.
Anyways bad jokes aside there is a lot of cut dialogue to use.
I've already got quite a few ready.
There is no section for this file. https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/File:GoalLifepod1.ogg
What should I name the section?
agile spindle
what is it
cursive vigil
edgy lagoon
Situation assesment: time T+3 hours since planetfall. Lifepod hull secure. Communications offline.
@agile spindle
edgy lagoon
Well I know where it would play. It plays shortly after leaving the lifepod.
I was thinking of putting it under Introduction.
edgy lagoon
Well I meant make a Introduction section for the cut dialogue.
agile spindle
no just make a dialogue section
there's already an intro section anyway
and it's a different thing
edgy lagoon
You do realize there already is an introduction section though, right? There's "Intro" and "Introduction"
Intro being at the top and Introduction being directly below PDA.
agile spindle
not in the live page
edgy lagoon
No it's on the live page.
edgy lagoon
Because your on the cut content page
This is on the Dialogue page, as you told me to put it here.
agile spindle
oh
If that isn't in the game that dialogue should be in the unused dialogue section
edgy lagoon
Yes but the unused section is being organized because there's so much unused dialogue.
agile spindle
So you're talking about a section under the unused dialogue section?
agile spindle
so then it'd go under intro
edgy lagoon
Under Intro or Introduction?
agile spindle
introduction
edgy lagoon
Got it. Thanks
edgy lagoon
Here's the stuff I've added so far.
Probably not all of it, but that's what I've got.
I published what I have and I'm gonna add more soon.
If anyone locates more audio files, feel free to add them or tell me so I can.
agile spindle
can you remove the two sound files from trivia
since theyre in the unused section we dont need them there anymore
edgy lagoon
Got it.
Done.
So I was looking at everything that has been done and Jesus we've done a lot of work on this page. https://subnautica.fandom.com/index.php?title=Dialogue&diff=318854&oldid=315466
By the way, how can I like to a section using [[#section|section]] if there are two with the same name?
agile spindle
example
edgy lagoon
The Dialogue page.
I want to link fro the bottom sections where I removed the audio up to the actual sections they're in.
agile spindle
you cant
edgy lagoon
Damnit.
edgy lagoon
Certainly.
By the way, are there any more cut commands?
I hate to only have one entry in a section.
cinder kestrel
scissors may be a cut command.
agile spindle
shark, seal, sonic
cinder kestrel
And with that, I take my leave again.
edgy lagoon
Can you give me quick ideas of what they did?
agile spindle
agile spindle
before, i think
some of them still work but a lot of them dont have a visible effect
edgy lagoon
I'm going to try on the first ever version, see if they worked at all
Seal would set the speed multiplier to five, however it (for some reason) is automatically set back to 1.
Sonic would set the speed multiplier to fifty, but do the same thing.
remote leaf
There are a lot of werid commands
agile spindle
i assumed they just changed the way speed works so the commands stopped working
edgy lagoon
Likely.
cinder kestrel
it'll link to the topmost section with that name
Where do you want to link to?
edgy lagoon
There's two sections: In-Game Dialogue and Cut/Unused Dialogue. Both share virtually the same structure.
I wanted to link it to the lower one's Cyclops and Intro sections.
But it autolinks to the uppermost section.
@agile spindle Shark did the same thing but with a 10x multiplier.
agile spindle
yes i know what they do
cinder kestrel
Take a look at the automatic table of contents for your answer.
The more you know.
agile spindle
whoa
agile spindle
yea
cinder kestrel
Magic.
edgy lagoon
Is the Take Damage command still in the most recent version of the game?
agile spindle
not afaik
agile spindle
takedamage works?
edgy lagoon
Yea
agile spindle
im surprised lee missed it when he was going through commands
edgy lagoon
The Seal, Shark and Sonic commands also still give this feedback.
Though they do nothing.
frail dragon
did the prawn suit have old dialogue?
i often hear this weird voice when in that vehicle... very rare but it happens
ok the dialogue page is missing the seamoth's "welcome aboard captain" thing
edgy lagoon
'Cause I couldn't find that file.
At all.
Are these two trees ever seen in the file game anywhere?
frail dragon
why does the seabase welcome aboard captain trigger column say "Entering Seabase, Seamoth or Prawn Suit"
agile spindle
those look like floater island trees
edgy lagoon
Because that's what it use to be. Haven't changed it.
frail dragon
yeah i see those trees on the floating island a lot
edgy lagoon
They're called Jungle Tree 3A and Jungle Tree 3B
summer kindle
Those are on the island yeah
edgy lagoon
What about this stuff?
edgy lagoon
It's an odd blue gas that explodes out and fades every five seconds.
agile spindle
looks like gaspod testing
summer kindle
I think the power transmitter used to use one of those as a model
One of the individual crystals
edgy lagoon
I remember that too.
What's interesting though is the size.
It's slightly larger than the player.
frail dragon
the lava zone is mentioned and referenced to in that build a lot
but does it exist?
i mean like the 2014 december one
agile spindle
the lava zone is really old
according to the old stalker page it existed before stalkers did
edgy lagoon
The lava zone was from early development.
Like early meaning the start of development.
As early as January 29th, 2014, it was being worked on.
agile spindle
those are in SN
edgy lagoon
Not all of them.
edgy lagoon
Damn you right
I should probably still mention them in the Twisty Bridges description.
edgy lagoon
Because they were intended to be used for that biome.
agile spindle
do you know that for sure
agile spindle
i dont see why theres a need to mention them
summer kindle
it can just say that the Blue Barnacles were created for use in this biome
edgy lagoon
That was the plan.
I mean look, they look exactly like what showed up on the concept.
agile spindle
i think it's worth pointing out that the barnacles are part of the twisty bridges model
agile spindle
m a y b e
summer kindle
They aren't part of the model
summer kindle
yes because I remember Kiel in a playtest talking about how they might need to change how they have them set up because it has to draw all of the barnacles individually
unless I just don't know what that means which is possible
but it sounds like they're saying that
edgy lagoon
I can just mention it like in a single sentence.
Anyone know what I should call that one pink creature from the Twisty Bridges Concept?
summer kindle
that is what became the Sea Monkey
summer kindle
maybe they weren't before and they are now
edgy lagoon
So should I call it Sea Monkey (Old) or just Sea Monkey?
summer kindle
why are you mentioning it
agile spindle
dont make a section for it because it wasnt planned afawk
edgy lagoon
Eh, okay.
summer kindle
also wouldn't really count as cut
edgy lagoon
To be honest I'm trying to be as inclusive as I can. I will keep the Sea Monkey out if that's what you want, though.
summer kindle
nothing indicates it was planned
edgy lagoon
Fair enough, I suppose.
agile spindle
yes but the object is all one thing
late island
I'm assuming for LOD reasons so they can just stop rendering the barnacles but not the whole bridge.
edgy lagoon
Also optimization.
agile spindle
yes thats what "for LOD reasons" means
remote leaf
The unused animation for Sea Dragon attacking the Seamoth should also be added to the cut content page
edgy lagoon
Do you have a video of it?
agile spindle
theres some pictures on the sea dragon page
edgy lagoon
Here I'll add it then
remote leaf
Bippity just posted the pic of it in #subnautica-chat
edgy lagoon
"Fauna" then "Sea Dragon"?
summer kindle
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/File:SeaDragonLeviathan12.jpg
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/File:SeaDragonLeviathan13.jpg
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/File:SeaDragonLeviathan14.jpg
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/File:SeaDragonLeviathan15.jpg
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/File:SeaDragonLeviathan16.jpg
edgy lagoon
Jesus christ bip
hallow basalt
nom
remote leaf
🍔
summer kindle
there's already a section in the Sea Dragon trivia about it
so just base it off of that
Those have been in a gallery on my user page for like 2 years
remote leaf
Yes
edgy lagoon
Got it.
remote leaf
It makes the most logical sense under there
edgy lagoon
Finished.
Section was uploaded.
@summer kindle Thank you that looks so much better than what I wrote.
summer kindle
We still don't have the Snowfox fragment images for the wiki
agile spindle
we dont have all the seatruck fragments for modules either
dino's working on it i think
summer kindle
he better be
agile spindle
lol
edgy lagoon
Added a Top Down image for the Sand Worm. Gives it some variety.
So question
On the BZ wiki, the boxes are usually a blue color. What color should they be on the Subnautica Wiki? Black?
Just making sure as I'm going to be editing a page right now.
agile spindle
the boxes?
edgy lagoon
Sorry, tables.
agile spindle
leave them the default color
edgy lagoon
So black, got it. Thank you Tueman.
edgy lagoon
I need more cut creatures.
At least I think there's more so I need info on them.
Anyone have info on any that are not on the list?
agile spindle
why do you think there are more?
edgy lagoon
I belive I had seen more somewhere.
I may not have though.
I should probably check the game files.
late island
I don't think there'd be any in there
late island
There are so many unused raw materials
edgy lagoon
There was a lot on the documentation and in the ids.
remote leaf
Probably for the better Mercury got cut
edgy lagoon
Which one, the crystal or the red one?
late island
I'm assuming they mean the red one
though they're probably just variants of the same thing.
edgy lagoon
They're not.
They were two custom materials.
I was looking through the files and I noticed all of the rocks had a snow varient of the texture.
See?
edgy lagoon
Yes, I forgot to add the reference. See <ref name=Document />
I'll try to remember to add it.
Are these snow textures of any significance?
They're found in the files of the first game, EA Release.
agile spindle
id assume they were for the arctic biome
edgy lagoon
I need to find the corresponding models and put them together in unity to see what they looked like.
Or find a way to spawn them.
edgy lagoon
Rock(1-6)_snow
late island
did the create command exist back then?
if so you could probably spawn them
then again it's possible the textures were never hooked up
agile spindle
yeah i added ignis' script to SN and it works fine
edgy lagoon
If you could spawn them all in a row and grab some images I would really appreciate that.
agile spindle
according to the gameobject list there are no snow rocks
summer kindle
Yeah those might not be in newer versions
edgy lagoon
In case that matters.
I can extract all the snow versions of the textures if you want me to.
If that will help
agile spindle
what purpose would that serve
edgy lagoon
I don't know man.
late island
well if it uses the same model as other rocks you could just replace the textures
but yeah Tueman I'm pretty sure the snow stuff is mostly in early builds
which is where I was wondering if create would work
agile spindle
i dont know how old create is
edgy lagoon
I found these in the first version of the game.
Whatever version the Arctic stop appearing in, they were likely removed.
agile spindle
There's a gameobject in this list here: WorldEntities/Creatures/Unused/Grower
doesnt appear when i create it
edgy lagoon
Interesting
late island
onlyineditor?
agile spindle
no
late island
hm
edgy lagoon
It has no model or texture.
agile spindle
this is SN btw
edgy lagoon
agile spindle
lemme check the assembly
// Type: Grower
// Assembly: Assembly-CSharp, Version=0.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null
// MVID: 2E6CE02F-0A08-4E4A-9E70-DA395763BEC4
// Assembly location: D:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Subnautica\Subnautica_Data\Managed\Assembly-CSharp.dll
using ProtoBuf;
[ProtoContract]
public class Grower : Creature
{
public float growInterval;
public float growSize;
public float growAmount;
public float pulseAmount;
public float pulseTime;
public override void Start()
{
base.Start();
this.InvokeRepeating("Pulse", 0.0f, this.growInterval);
}
private void Pulse()
{
if (!this.gameObject.activeInHierarchy)
return;
this.AlterTerrain();
}
private void AlterTerrain()
{
float x = this.transform.localScale.x;
TerrainChanger.AlterTerrain(this.transform.position, (int) ((double) this.growSize * (double) x), this.growAmount * x);
}
}
So it looks like the name was fitting, it would grow in size as well as pulse.
agile spindle
literally its only function is to grow
edgy lagoon
What version of unity did Subnautica use on EA Release?
I'm extracting all the assets and I'm gonna see if I can find anything in unity.
I just want to be sure I'm using the right version.
agile spindle
unit
i created a thing called cold and now my frames dropped to 20 and my character sounds like a pregnant woman
cursive vigil
-_-
edgy lagoon
What the hell did you just say
agile spindle
he's breathing really loud and deeply as if hes cold
edgy lagoon
Very odd indeed.
edgy lagoon
I'll remember to write that down under the signal section.
cinder kestrel
Back when heat signatures might have been a big deal.
agile spindle
well not spawnable but createable
edgy lagoon
How does one create something?
remote leaf
We need to find the signals for the precursors based
agile spindle
you gotta mod the game to enable the create command unfortunately
remote leaf
I think i might have an old save with them
agile spindle
each signal i spawn has different text
and they actually do create a signal location
edgy lagoon
So I can confirm cold does spawn and it can kill you.
remote leaf
I think heat signature lead to a Degasi base
edgy lagoon
When it damages you, it does a blue hurt overlay instead of a red one.
It also dropped my FPS to 3.
agile spindle
remote leaf
Also reefback burrowing should still be added to the cut content page
Especially since code of it is still left over
late island
modding to use the create command isn't hard
remote leaf
Im just wondering how one can show proof of reefback burrowing since we cant just post the code
edgy lagoon
Add the code to the reefback.
agile spindle
it isnt that simple lol
edgy lagoon
Damn
remote leaf
You would need knowledge how to hook it up
And if im remembering correctly. Reefback burrowing is separate from the normal reefback code
agile spindle
no idea
edgy lagoon
Hm
agile spindle
the burrowing code is in the class Reefback