#📚wiki-discussion | Subnautica (Official) | Page 108

snow sail Mar 28, 2019, 9:07 PM

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a lil later i found a third in the same area

summer kindle Mar 28, 2019, 9:08 PM

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ok well that makes me doubt it

snow sail Mar 28, 2019, 9:08 PM

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why would more spawn if there was only one?

late lotus Mar 28, 2019, 9:08 PM

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Nate is a fish, so it is easier for him to find many

turbid ermine Mar 28, 2019, 9:08 PM

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The glow whale with 10,000 health is a real thing though.

snow sail Mar 28, 2019, 9:08 PM

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and especially after they were all removed from the area

summer kindle Mar 28, 2019, 9:08 PM

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Probably sets it as a respawn point for them or something

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and picked up creatures do respawn

snow sail Mar 28, 2019, 9:09 PM

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honestly was my second guess

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but its never done that for anything else before

summer kindle Mar 28, 2019, 9:09 PM

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or you just haven't noticed

snow sail Mar 28, 2019, 9:09 PM

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i spawned a nootfish once

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it only stayed one

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and after i picked it up it didnt respawn

agile spindle Mar 28, 2019, 9:10 PM

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unless we can find more in an unaltered world we should assume it doesn’t spawn

snow sail Mar 28, 2019, 9:10 PM

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fair

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ill load another up and go to the same spot

agile spindle Mar 28, 2019, 9:10 PM

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@turbid ermine don’t you have a list you can look at?

turbid ermine Mar 28, 2019, 9:11 PM

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I have, but it's still possible if it was added by hand.

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This list is about entities generated by the game.

agile spindle Mar 28, 2019, 9:11 PM

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ah

turbid ermine Mar 28, 2019, 9:12 PM

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For example, the squid isn't on the list, same as penglings.

late lotus Mar 28, 2019, 9:12 PM

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so it is spelled penglings

snow sail Mar 28, 2019, 9:12 PM

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Pengwings are the adults

late lotus Mar 28, 2019, 9:13 PM

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@snow sail have you picked one up?

snow sail Mar 28, 2019, 9:14 PM

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Yes

minor axle Mar 28, 2019, 9:14 PM

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Who ever played just cause 3

summer kindle Mar 28, 2019, 9:14 PM

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why are you asking in here

minor axle Mar 28, 2019, 9:14 PM

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Ah wiki chat, sorry I thought I was in general

snow sail Mar 28, 2019, 9:20 PM

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so i went back in and i coudlnt find one

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i spawned one in and picked it up and still nothing spawned

agile spindle Mar 28, 2019, 9:20 PM

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let’s assume it doesn’t spawn

snow sail Mar 28, 2019, 9:20 PM

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oh wait

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day command spawns them in

agile spindle Mar 28, 2019, 9:21 PM

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what

snow sail Mar 28, 2019, 9:21 PM

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yeah i think the spawn command sets a spawn point for them

late lotus Mar 28, 2019, 9:21 PM

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me too

snow sail Mar 28, 2019, 9:22 PM

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ive confirmed that they were only spawning because i spawned one in

late lotus Mar 28, 2019, 9:22 PM

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ok lol

late lotus Mar 28, 2019, 10:40 PM

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I

agile spindle Mar 28, 2019, 10:40 PM

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stop

cinder kestrel Mar 28, 2019, 10:43 PM

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Why are you continuing it?

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agile spindle Mar 28, 2019, 10:43 PM

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SLS do you have the bot available atm

cinder kestrel Mar 28, 2019, 10:43 PM

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Yes.

agile spindle Mar 28, 2019, 10:44 PM

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Can you do the same thing you did with {{FaunaLink}}, except replacing all Flora links with {{FloraLink|FloraName}} and ignoring templates and the Flora page?

late lotus Mar 28, 2019, 10:50 PM

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is it possible for users to add pictures from the game to the wiki?

cinder kestrel Mar 28, 2019, 10:50 PM

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Yes.

late lotus Mar 28, 2019, 10:51 PM

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how do we do that?

agile spindle Mar 28, 2019, 10:51 PM

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https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Upload

Subnautica: Below Zero

Special:Upload

Login required | Subnautica: Below Zero | FANDOM powered by Wikia

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Speaking of that, @snow sail your pictures are great but in the future can you name the files something more intuitive when you upload them?

late lotus Mar 28, 2019, 10:51 PM

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ok thanks tueman

snow sail Mar 28, 2019, 10:55 PM

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what do you mean?

agile spindle Mar 28, 2019, 10:56 PM

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https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/File:20190328162210_1.jpg

Subnautica: Below Zero

File:20190328162210 1.jpg

The Purple Vents are an unfinished biome of thermal vents spewing some kind of purple material. The biome borders the Lilypad Islands, Thermal Spires, Tree Spires, the Rocket Island, the Arctic...

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The name of this image is a pain in the ass to add to pages

snow sail Mar 28, 2019, 10:56 PM

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its the pure screenshot name

late lotus Mar 28, 2019, 10:56 PM

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yikes

agile spindle Mar 28, 2019, 10:56 PM

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So change it

snow sail Mar 28, 2019, 10:56 PM

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i didnt really think to name it

cinder kestrel Mar 28, 2019, 10:56 PM

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But now you know.

snow sail Mar 28, 2019, 10:56 PM

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ill change it from now on though

agile spindle Mar 28, 2019, 10:56 PM

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great 👍 thanks

cinder kestrel Mar 28, 2019, 11:17 PM

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@agile spindle Done.

agile spindle Mar 28, 2019, 11:17 PM

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thanks

edgy lagoon Mar 28, 2019, 11:21 PM

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Don't you love when people post random in game events in the comments of a page?

agile spindle Mar 28, 2019, 11:21 PM

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what?

edgy lagoon Mar 28, 2019, 11:27 PM

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Eh, nevermind.

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Okay so I've reached an odd thing

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All of the dialogue in the ending cutscene is actually a single file.

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Including all the sounds.

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Should I just edit the section to include all the dialogue in a single list segment with the file at the bottom?

agile spindle Mar 28, 2019, 11:29 PM

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sure

edgy lagoon Mar 28, 2019, 11:30 PM

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Okay, I'll do that.

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But there's also another problem.

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There is about three of the ending files and I don't know which I'm suppose to use

agile spindle Mar 28, 2019, 11:31 PM

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so compare them

edgy lagoon Mar 28, 2019, 11:31 PM

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end_cin_sfx
end_cin_sfx_11
end_cin_sfx_12

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Some volume differences I think

agile spindle Mar 28, 2019, 11:33 PM

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choose the most accurate one

edgy lagoon Mar 28, 2019, 11:33 PM

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Oh and the first one without the number doesn't have the emperor dialogue packed in with it.

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The other two do.

agile spindle Mar 28, 2019, 11:33 PM

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then pick one of those

edgy lagoon Mar 28, 2019, 11:34 PM

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The two with the emperor dialouge?

agile spindle Mar 28, 2019, 11:34 PM

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is there a file with just the emperor dialogue?

edgy lagoon Mar 28, 2019, 11:34 PM

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Yes.

agile spindle Mar 28, 2019, 11:34 PM

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then use the first one and separate the lines

edgy lagoon Mar 28, 2019, 11:34 PM

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Got it.

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Is the first telepathic message from the emperor time-based or location-based?

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I said the first one.

agile spindle Mar 28, 2019, 11:41 PM

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He is asking about SN

turbid ermine Mar 28, 2019, 11:42 PM

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It's clearly not location based, but I don't know if it's related to the radio messages at some point.

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Can't remember.

agile spindle Mar 28, 2019, 11:43 PM

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I'm almost certain it's time based

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1 week or something

edgy lagoon Mar 28, 2019, 11:43 PM

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I suppose I'll put time based until proven otherwise.

turbid ermine Mar 28, 2019, 11:43 PM

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It sure is time based, but maybe time based from a radio message that's what I meant.

edgy lagoon Mar 28, 2019, 11:52 PM

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Does anyone know about the second one?

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I know the third one, I just need the second's trigger.

edgy lagoon Mar 29, 2019, 12:12 AM

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Is anyone not busy right now and able to test something for me?

late lotus Mar 29, 2019, 12:12 AM

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sure

edgy lagoon Mar 29, 2019, 12:12 AM

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You have Subnautica right?

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Base game?

late lotus Mar 29, 2019, 12:12 AM

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yea

edgy lagoon Mar 29, 2019, 12:13 AM

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If your able to, can you see if the files on the Sea Emperor Leviathan's page are the same as in game? (Voice files)
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Sea_Emperor_Leviathan#1

Subnautica Wiki

Sea Emperor Leviathan

The Sea Emperor Leviathan is the largest of the living Leviathan class fauna in Subnautica. It is sentient and telepathic. The Sea Emperor Leviathan is colossal, having a stocky, entirely armored...

late lotus Mar 29, 2019, 12:13 AM

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ok

edgy lagoon Mar 29, 2019, 12:13 AM

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👍

late lotus Mar 29, 2019, 12:14 AM

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all her voice files?

edgy lagoon Mar 29, 2019, 12:14 AM

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Really only the ones in the aquarium.

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Aquarium Telepathic Contact Dialogue

late lotus Mar 29, 2019, 12:44 AM

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The Dialogue is up to date

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@edgy lagoon you still there?

edgy lagoon Mar 29, 2019, 12:47 AM

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Ah, thanks for telling me!

late lotus Mar 29, 2019, 12:47 AM

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np

edgy lagoon Mar 29, 2019, 1:12 AM

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I added the Sea Emperor's dialogue to the dialogue page, as well as added the Rocket Dialogue/SFX to that.

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Note the Dialogue is combined with the SFX in all files I checked so there was no removing it.

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I can confirm every single line of dialogue currently on that page has a file except for a single one.

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That single one being one that never had dialogue added for some reason.

edgy lagoon Mar 29, 2019, 1:38 PM

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Someone called crabsquids "spidery things" in the comments of the crabsquid page.

summer kindle Mar 29, 2019, 2:25 PM

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that clade template looks complicated

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 2:26 PM

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Well it has to work first

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but yea it's a bit complex

frail dragon Mar 29, 2019, 2:47 PM

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ok what is all this template stuff you are working on?

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first - what wiki?

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second - for what purpose?

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and third - Is there anyway I can help contribute

edgy lagoon Mar 29, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Probably BZ
What else would you use a template for
No

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 2:51 PM

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templates are written in HTML and some require CSS, JS, or even Lua to set up

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The Clade template bippity is referring to is from Wikipedia. I’m having trouble setting it up because it’s the first time i’ve used a lua module

frail dragon Mar 29, 2019, 3:15 PM

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i did some templates a while back on the SN wiki iirc

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 3:16 PM

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were they lua

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because html templates are easy peasy

frail dragon Mar 29, 2019, 3:17 PM

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i think I made a "not in game" or "may not make it into the game" or something template for the BZ wiki, but then SLS's bot did this thing that removed unused templates soon after

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and i think it was the same language as the navbox template things are

edgy lagoon Mar 29, 2019, 3:17 PM

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Not lua

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 3:17 PM

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yea that’s html

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header templates are probably the easiest kind to make

frail dragon Mar 29, 2019, 3:18 PM

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oh lua... I might've used that when scripting roblox long ago but I have forgotten since then

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 3:18 PM

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the templates i’ve been making or adding recently are more involved than those

frail dragon Mar 29, 2019, 3:20 PM

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k

edgy lagoon Mar 29, 2019, 3:51 PM

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Anyone know what triggers the Alterra Contact radio message?

frail dragon Mar 29, 2019, 4:21 PM

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...

edgy lagoon Mar 29, 2019, 4:22 PM

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I stll need an answer to that question.

frail dragon Mar 29, 2019, 4:22 PM

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wait uh

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which message?

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the neptune rocket thing?

edgy lagoon Mar 29, 2019, 4:23 PM

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Tge one where your told the Captain's code

frail dragon Mar 29, 2019, 4:24 PM

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i think it's either 14 hours into the game or after the sunbeam

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i can't remember

turbid ermine Mar 29, 2019, 4:43 PM

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It's timed and it's after the sunbeam event. If you don't trigger the radio at all you never have the message.

edgy lagoon Mar 29, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Erm, @summer kindle, commas come before and when your listing thing.

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thing, thing2, and thing3.

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 4:50 PM

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oxford comma is a pretty polar issue

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it really doesn’t matter that much, it’s preference like british vs american spelling

summer kindle Mar 29, 2019, 4:53 PM

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But a data bank entry is what was being changed

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Data bank entries are to be displayed exactly as they are in game, including any spelling errors or grammatical errors

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 4:56 PM

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ah then in that case leave it out

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or whatever’s accurate obviously

summer kindle Mar 29, 2019, 4:56 PM

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Well someone went in and added a comma to the entry, I assume that it doesn’t appear in game like that.

edgy lagoon Mar 29, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Oh it was an entry. Okay that's fine.

summer kindle Mar 29, 2019, 5:09 PM

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as much as it pains me we don't mess with entries

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which is why the word "vertibrate" appears several times on the wiki

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 5:09 PM

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reee

summer kindle Mar 29, 2019, 5:09 PM

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honestly that entry is kinda off in general

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says it's not cold enough to freeze most """"""vertibrates""""""
but what is the Brinewing's prey? Vertebrate fish that it freezes solid

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also weird conflation of vertebrate and warm blooded

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actually it's not the entry in general it's just the bit on the end
~~which happens to be the only bit not taken straight from Alex's description~~

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 5:41 PM

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we don’t know its prey tho

summer kindle Mar 29, 2019, 5:42 PM

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it attacks things already

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and eats things

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https://gyazo.com/161a2417cd621f65d04684ef33a86d9c

Gyazo

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also we apparently missed this at some point

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 5:42 PM

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yeah but we don’t know what it eats

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since we don’t know where it lives

quasi moat Mar 29, 2019, 5:43 PM

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It eats leviathans

summer kindle Mar 29, 2019, 5:43 PM

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someone changed every mention of Brinewing throughout the page

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how did we miss this

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 5:44 PM

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double edit

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vivi made the mistake of undoing rather than rollback

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unless content mods can’t rollback

cinder kestrel Mar 29, 2019, 5:44 PM

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They can.

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 5:45 PM

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there you have it

cinder kestrel Mar 29, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Fixed.

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 5:45 PM

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that person was blocked after that anyway i guess no one looked at the page though

cinder kestrel Mar 29, 2019, 5:46 PM

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Apparently, Microsoft Edge has a reading view.

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Please restart my computer for me.

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Its lore size?

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sinful yarrow Mar 29, 2019, 5:56 PM

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lore size of what?

cinder kestrel Mar 29, 2019, 5:56 PM

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Sea Dragon Leviathan.

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Compared to the Sea Emperor Leviathan.

sinful yarrow Mar 29, 2019, 5:58 PM

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🤔

summer kindle Mar 29, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Because the data bank entry says it's 112 metres long, but the actual creature is a bit shorter than that now because it was shrunk down at some point

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but the entry was unchanged

cinder kestrel Mar 29, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Ah.

sinful yarrow Mar 29, 2019, 5:59 PM

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interesting

turbid ermine Mar 29, 2019, 6:10 PM

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@edgy lagoon, there is a comment in the language file for your question earlier. //Triggered 5 days after sunbeam event, or on lostriver base

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 6:17 PM

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comments are not always accurate

edgy lagoon Mar 29, 2019, 6:20 PM

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👌

turbid ermine Mar 29, 2019, 7:59 PM

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You were right, it seems to be location based only.

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 10:38 PM

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Starting next week the updated Discussions page will be the new default page for new users instead of the Main Page

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https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Mira_Laime/Introducing_long-awaited_Discussions_updates

Community Central

Introducing long-awaited Discussions updates

It’s been a long time since you’ve seen a meaningful update to Discussions, leaving communities feeling rightly frustrated with the state of Discussions and with Fandom for not providing...

cinder kestrel Mar 29, 2019, 10:39 PM

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Hmm.

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 10:39 PM

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im gonna say i dont like that at all

edgy lagoon Mar 29, 2019, 10:39 PM

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Discussions are actually dumb.

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 10:39 PM

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well theyre updating discussions

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it looks better

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but it is not fit for a landing page

edgy lagoon Mar 29, 2019, 10:40 PM

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I agree on that.

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I want to start on our welcome page, not the discussions.

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 10:41 PM

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The most recent posts tagged with an article will be shown underneath that article on the wiki

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hrng

summer kindle Mar 29, 2019, 10:41 PM

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Are they even used by anyone on our wiki

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I always forget they exist

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 10:42 PM

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We have it yeah

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Like 3 people use it per week

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We’re going to be introducing @ mentions so you can ping other users.

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kill me

cinder kestrel Mar 29, 2019, 10:43 PM

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Well, if you look up https://www.google.com/search?q=subnautica+wiki , the result you get is the front page specifically.

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But if somebody types in the link, then yes, they will get that landing page.

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 10:43 PM

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unregistered users will still see the main page

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apparently Discussions isn't in mediawiki

cinder kestrel Mar 29, 2019, 10:44 PM

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No, it is too separate.

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 10:44 PM

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which basically means I won't be posting in it at all

edgy lagoon Mar 29, 2019, 10:47 PM

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By the way, I added some old Cyclops dialogue to the trivia.

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Luckily I can probably extract some of the older game version's files in case the sounds are deleted for other things.

late island Mar 29, 2019, 11:27 PM

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Maybe this is a good time to bring up that idea we had for the new wiki again

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 11:27 PM

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Yeah, want to explain it?

late island Mar 29, 2019, 11:27 PM

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where to start

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 11:27 PM

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idk, it's not that complicated though

late island Mar 29, 2019, 11:28 PM

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Basically it'd be like a connected UWE wiki network

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with a main hub with links to all of them

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 11:29 PM

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to each wiki for games made by UWE

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NS/NS2, SN/BZ, ZoS and future games

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<@&192900629797142528>

late island Mar 29, 2019, 11:30 PM

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There is the whole issue of getting people to move to the new wiki but with sufficient advertising that would be less of a problem

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of course there's the whole discord here which would have links to it and mention it, and we could probably get some Youtubers to let people know about the move

cinder kestrel Mar 29, 2019, 11:31 PM

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So we have a wiki for each game, and there is a central page linking to all of them?

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 11:31 PM

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yeah essentially

cinder kestrel Mar 29, 2019, 11:31 PM

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Company-hosted?

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 11:31 PM

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yes

late island Mar 29, 2019, 11:32 PM

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Yeah UWE hosted

cinder kestrel Mar 29, 2019, 11:32 PM

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So we get to do whatever we want with it, if we know how to do it?

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 11:32 PM

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it's additionally good for UWE because it brings more users to their less-known games

late island Mar 29, 2019, 11:32 PM

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yep

cinder kestrel Mar 29, 2019, 11:32 PM

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Will you pay me ten thousand dollars?

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Continue your streak, please.

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 11:33 PM

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stay on topic sls

cinder kestrel Mar 29, 2019, 11:33 PM

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Fine.

late island Mar 29, 2019, 11:33 PM

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is there a joke there that I'm missing

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anyway

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wiki network

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UWE hosted

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no FANDOM restrictions

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and can advertise their other projects

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 11:34 PM

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Plus it'd make it easier to navigate between the SN/BZ wikis

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and any future subnautica game if they make it, it's good future-proofing

cinder kestrel Mar 29, 2019, 11:36 PM

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I still give it my support.

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(I gave it my support the previous times we brought it up, right?)

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 11:36 PM

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Yeah we want everyone here to support it before we bring it to Ted

cinder kestrel Mar 29, 2019, 11:37 PM

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Great, time to ping the others. Or maybe I will in negative eight minutes.

agile spindle Mar 29, 2019, 11:37 PM

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I pinged the others already

cinder kestrel Mar 29, 2019, 11:37 PM

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Or you can ping them in negative eight minutes.

fluid lagoon Mar 30, 2019, 1:00 AM

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do you

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no

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 1:00 AM

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sam you have to stop spamming this chat

cinder kestrel Mar 30, 2019, 3:22 AM

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#memes-and-media

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Not to this channel.

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 3:22 AM

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not to any channel

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im a tseries subscriber

cinder kestrel Mar 30, 2019, 3:22 AM

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I am subscribed to neither, so #memes-and-media .

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No, I am a member of #📚wiki-discussion .

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#memes-and-media
I cannot hurry any faster with spamming this.

frail dragon Mar 30, 2019, 3:25 AM

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Oh cmon why are the mods not answering

cinder kestrel Mar 30, 2019, 3:25 AM

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@summer kindle

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You still need to answer the first ping.

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This ping: https://discordapp.com/channels/85342800492634112/188459887200698368/561331218814205964

frail dragon Mar 30, 2019, 3:26 AM

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Why did you even join the server
Just to annoy people like this...?

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Troll I guess

cinder kestrel Mar 30, 2019, 3:26 AM

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Take a guess, @frail dragon .

cunning oak Mar 30, 2019, 3:56 AM

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I got it

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 3:56 AM

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legend bluerose comes to the save ❤

cunning oak Mar 30, 2019, 4:01 AM

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Resume being legendary wiki keepers flutterwink

cinder kestrel Mar 30, 2019, 4:35 AM

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And now I know playtesters have some moderator skills.

cursive vigil Mar 30, 2019, 11:55 AM

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obraxis told me he doesn't want to hear about pewdiepie vs tseries

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 11:57 AM

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What

cursive vigil Mar 30, 2019, 11:58 AM

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some people were just talking a little bit about pewd vs tseries

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 11:58 AM

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Nobody is talking about that in here

cursive vigil Mar 30, 2019, 11:59 AM

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scroll up a little bit

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 11:59 AM

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Oh wait never mind they were 8 hours ago

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And already got banned

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So why did you feel the need to mention it now

cursive vigil Mar 30, 2019, 12:00 PM

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wait wot did they really get banned?

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 12:00 PM

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For multiple things other than just that

cursive vigil Mar 30, 2019, 12:00 PM

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oh

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i mentioned it because obraxis didn't put that in the #sn-discord-rules

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and i was sleeping when they said that

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 4:13 PM

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so now that the frozen river plant 02 is not unique to the frozen river

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can we change its name

late island Mar 30, 2019, 4:14 PM

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it still doesn't have a new name

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the person you should be asking here is Tom

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 4:25 PM

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well this is awkward

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📎 20190330162548_1.jpg

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frozen river plant 02 is actually frozen river plant 01

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 4:26 PM

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i think its funny when you guys tell me the names arent confusing

late island Mar 30, 2019, 4:27 PM

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I don't think I ever said that

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 4:27 PM

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ugh we have the names the wrong way around

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who is responsible for this

late island Mar 30, 2019, 4:27 PM

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I'm numpto

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 4:27 PM

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I will personally be annoyed

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Maybe we should name them something more recognizable

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so no one will be confused

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 4:30 PM

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I can't name things
you think I'm Tom

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We cannot play god

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 4:30 PM

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We can

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we are the wiki keepers

fluid lagoon Mar 30, 2019, 4:31 PM

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no

late island Mar 30, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Maybe it's time to retire tueman

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the power's getting to his head

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 4:32 PM

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ok that hurts a little

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 4:33 PM

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https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/subnautica-arctic/images/5/51/FrozenRiverPlant02_3.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20190330162301

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this looks nice

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 4:33 PM

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wheres the brinefall

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 4:33 PM

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I think I was behind it there

late island Mar 30, 2019, 4:34 PM

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you were looking right at it

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it's just really transparent at times

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 4:34 PM

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no because the splashes are in front of you

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but they look like theyre just floating there

late island Mar 30, 2019, 4:35 PM

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You can see the brinefall straight ahead

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 4:42 PM

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@summer kindle did you see the UWE-wiki idea that dino posted yesterday?

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 4:42 PM

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yeah

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 4:43 PM

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what are your thoughts?

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 4:45 PM

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It's all well and good to think about, but you have to remember that we would not be the people setting it up.
You have to rely on other people for that and I'm not 100% certain they will want to.

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Well UWE would actually benefit a bit from this as opposed to just hosting the wikis separately

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@late island

📎 unknown.png

late island Mar 30, 2019, 4:55 PM

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Yeah it's part of that concept

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 4:57 PM

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thats the full one from GDC

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it's high res enough to use i think

late island Mar 30, 2019, 4:57 PM

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Well that isn't the full concept though

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it's wider than the ones we've seen

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but there's still a lot missing vertically

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 4:58 PM

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oh shoot

late island Mar 30, 2019, 4:58 PM

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I just posted the vertical one

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 4:58 PM

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yeah i looked at it

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didnt notice the vertical difference till now

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 5:01 PM

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https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/subnautica-arctic/images/3/34/Triangle_Plant_Flora.png/revision/latest?cb=20190318162025

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idea:

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blue dorito plant

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 5:01 PM

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omelette plant

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 5:02 PM

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omelettes don't have visible yolks

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 5:02 PM

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egg plant

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o wait

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 5:02 PM

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it's a fried egg plant

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UWE leaked a new doritos flavour

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blue egg

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 6:56 PM

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@agile spindle any idea why the Redwort biome section is so squashed

📎 whysquish.png

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the others aren't doing that

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 6:57 PM

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combination of a squared image, bullet points, and long biome list

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also lack of spawn id

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try decreasing the image size parameter below 200

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 6:59 PM

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put it to 130 and it's fine now

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wait what

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now all of the tool tips that were not doing that are doing that

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how did that even happen

cursive vigil Mar 30, 2019, 7:02 PM

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omelette dorito plant

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ilumeto plant

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 7:02 PM

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you didn’t modify the original floratable template did you?

cursive vigil Mar 30, 2019, 7:02 PM

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illuminati + omelette + dorito

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 7:02 PM

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stop spamming

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 7:02 PM

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No I only changed FloraTable/Redwort_Relative

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Now that tool tip is not doing it

cursive vigil Mar 30, 2019, 7:03 PM

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i'm not spamming

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 7:03 PM

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and the others are

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 7:03 PM

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revert it and see if that fixes the others

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 7:04 PM

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the cave bush relative one is no longer doing it

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but the violet beau relative and bowl plant are

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what manner of witchcraft is this

cursive vigil Mar 30, 2019, 7:07 PM

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nvm i get it now sry for the spam

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 7:13 PM

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i don’t know

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i’ll take a look when i get home

edgy lagoon Mar 30, 2019, 7:42 PM

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Why does nobody know any English Grammar on the wiki lmao

📎 Overwolf_2019-03-30_12-41-56.png

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 7:44 PM

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young playerbase

frail dragon Mar 30, 2019, 7:47 PM

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idk though because when I was younger my grammar was fine
At least spelling-wise

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And I don’t think they understand that spell check (whatever you call it) exists

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Alright Lee we all know you were a 250 iq baby

frail dragon Mar 30, 2019, 7:49 PM

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Or maybe

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They see other people not using grammar when talking
And think that’s cool

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 7:50 PM

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or maybe

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they’re 8 years old

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and they’re excited because you tubers play this game so they type quickly

edgy lagoon Mar 30, 2019, 7:53 PM

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They had to type quickly to get back to Anthomnia's video.

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I'm probably the only person who uses links and such in my comments.

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 7:55 PM

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you aren’t

edgy lagoon Mar 30, 2019, 7:57 PM

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Ah, good, lmao.

frail dragon Mar 30, 2019, 8:21 PM

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iirc people would always but brackets around every word that was a page on the wiki so it'd be like
"Why don't we have a [Peeper] [Leviathan]? That would be a nice addition to [Subnautica]"

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but the brackets made it into a link

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and it was kinda annoying

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 8:21 PM

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single brackets dont link unless there's a link separated with a space inside it

frail dragon Mar 30, 2019, 8:22 PM

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oh okay

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(it was just an example)

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because I'm not actually sure what they did to have all those links

edgy lagoon Mar 30, 2019, 8:25 PM

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I just realized, I responded to a dude with information from another page when the information was also on the page we were on

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I linked him to the Alien Arch Caches page while we were on the Alien Arches page.

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And all you needed to do to find what he wanted was click on the "Slave Arches" tab

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 8:26 PM

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really makes you wonder why those pages arent combined though

edgy lagoon Mar 30, 2019, 8:27 PM

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Yea, why do we have two pages with the same info?

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I mean I guess the Cache one details more about the Caches ontop of the arches, but still, they're the same topic.

fluid lagoon Mar 30, 2019, 8:28 PM

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don't start this again

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they're staying separate

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 8:28 PM

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heh

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btw @fluid lagoon @stuck pawn @heady gulch @fierce imp did you guys see dino's idea? we discussed it a bit yesterday

cinder kestrel Mar 30, 2019, 8:47 PM

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https://discordapp.com/channels/85342800492634112/188459887200698368/561331218814205964

late island Mar 30, 2019, 8:50 PM

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Don't bug them

cinder kestrel Mar 30, 2019, 8:50 PM

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But that is the only way to get "consensus."

hallow basalt Mar 30, 2019, 8:51 PM

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🤔

cinder kestrel Mar 30, 2019, 8:51 PM

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Thoughts?

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 8:51 PM

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ivan you can put in your opinion too if you want

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since this does affect you too

hallow basalt Mar 30, 2019, 8:51 PM

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i'm neutral about this tbh

cinder kestrel Mar 30, 2019, 8:51 PM

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I know tueman forgot to ping you, so here you go: @hallow basalt

hallow basalt Mar 30, 2019, 8:52 PM

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if you guys think it's the right idea, then go ahead

late island Mar 30, 2019, 8:53 PM

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I feel like most of the keepers would be fine with leaving

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it's just

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we gotta get the devs on board

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 8:54 PM

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it's best to make sure there's a consensus before we go to ted with it

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By the way, I can't merge the Clade template to the wiki because apparently Wikipedia runs on a newer version of the engine than Fandom

late island Mar 30, 2019, 8:56 PM

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I think a reason people would be hesitant about this would be that the devs might not want it

cinder kestrel Mar 30, 2019, 8:57 PM

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I think Wikipedia is 1.34, while we are 1.19.

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 8:57 PM

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yeah thats what bippity said

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but it doesn't hurt to ask

cinder kestrel Mar 30, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Yes, https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Version confirms we are 1.19.24.

Subnautica Wiki

Special:Version

Version | Subnautica Wiki | FANDOM powered by Wikia

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Wikipedia uses 1.33.0-wmf.23 (f51b1f3), published 18:22, 28 March 2019.

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 8:59 PM

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thats uh

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new

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hey @cinder kestrel can you find a version history? around what time did they use a similar version as us?

cinder kestrel Mar 30, 2019, 9:00 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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There you go.

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It was released seven years ago.

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https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.19

MediaWiki 1.19

MediaWiki 1.19 was a release that contained many new features and bug fixes.
This is a summary of the major changes.
You can consult the RELEASE NOTES file for the full list of changes in this version.
It was deployed to Wikimedia wikis in February 2012, see /Deployment annou...

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 9:03 PM

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oh shoot

cinder kestrel Mar 30, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Yes.

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 9:03 PM

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I got it working @summer kindle

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At least, it looks like it's working

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 9:04 PM

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Cladogram?

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 9:04 PM

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yeah

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 9:04 PM

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I’ll take a look in a minute

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 9:05 PM

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the styles css is here https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Clade.css

Subnautica: Below Zero

MediaWiki:Clade.css

/* Template:Pp-template*/ table.clade{ border-spacing:0; margin:0; font-size:100%; line-height:100%; border-collapse:separate; width:auto;} table.clade table.clade{ width:100%;

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cause the current line color is for Wikipedia which is a white background, but black on dark blue is hard to see

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 9:05 PM

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I’ll probably go for orange

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 9:42 PM

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clade time

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 9:51 PM

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Why did we have blogs disabled on the BZ wiki?

cinder kestrel Mar 30, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Too much junk is my guess.

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 9:52 PM

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they're enabled on SN though

cinder kestrel Mar 30, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Hmm.

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Well I just enabled them now

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did you not see that I just made one

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Yeah I'm just wondering why you disabled them in the first place

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thats what prompted the question

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 9:54 PM

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When the wiki was still not open

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we had everything disabled

cinder kestrel Mar 30, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Ah.

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 9:55 PM

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ok

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I'm having issues working out how to get further than this

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https://gyazo.com/61c31f241a93000ba3b84b3a2b98bd4e

Gyazo

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Trying to expand it further is confusing

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 9:56 PM

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as in same level as arrow ray or another split off?

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 9:56 PM

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this whole group is meant to be nested within a larger group

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including the Eyeyes, Peepers and Reginald

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 9:57 PM

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like this?

📎 unknown.png

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 9:57 PM

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Nah

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I got it now I think

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It's a confusing template that's for sure

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 9:59 PM

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Pretty sure you just call a new clade template for every split off

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 9:59 PM

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no idea what that means

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wait

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I understand

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 10:00 PM

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lol, well if you understand how to use it it's fine

hard pewter Mar 30, 2019, 10:00 PM

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is it some fish family tree?

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 10:01 PM

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es

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yes

hard pewter Mar 30, 2019, 10:01 PM

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are oculus and peeper on a different ''branch''?

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 10:01 PM

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its not done yet

hard pewter Mar 30, 2019, 10:01 PM

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ok

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 10:01 PM

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and it's also not official so

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 10:01 PM

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And yes they would be

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https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:BippityBop/Clade_Time

Subnautica: Below Zero

Clade Time

Reginald

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nice I got it all in the correct layout

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took a while

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 10:17 PM

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you got rid of the pictures?

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 10:17 PM

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Just to make it easier to work out

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I'll add them back in now

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it's easier to comprehend when it's just one line rather than a whole image link

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 10:17 PM

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ah

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glad it's working

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I'm typing up the documentation for it atm

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 10:22 PM

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Ok images are in

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Now I believe I can label these branches

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 10:23 PM

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yeah

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just put |label1=Name or whatever number you need above that branch's parameter

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There's a bunch more styling and other options available atm if you look at the documentation on Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Clade

Template:Clade

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since we have an older version of the template I'm not sure how much of it works or if you even need it though

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 10:30 PM

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god these get confusing to work out

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Just trying to work out where to even place these labels

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 10:31 PM

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put them immediately above the branch you're trying to name

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that seems to be the easiest way

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 10:32 PM

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Yes it is, but it is difficult to tell where each branch is sometimes

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never mind I got it

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probably

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 10:32 PM

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thats cause youre placing the end markers at the same level lol

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 10:36 PM

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OK

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Done with all labels

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 10:36 PM

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👍

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if you want to put more information you can probably use references

late island Mar 30, 2019, 10:41 PM

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how do you change the line color?

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 10:41 PM

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https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/MediaWiki:Clade.css

Subnautica: Below Zero

MediaWiki:Clade.css

/* Template:Pp-template*/ table.clade{ border-spacing:0; margin:0; font-size:100%; line-height:100%; border-collapse:separate; width:auto;} table.clade table.clade{ width:100%;

late island Mar 30, 2019, 10:42 PM

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where's the color in that?

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 10:42 PM

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you gotta add it

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I would assume to the first class

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otherwise I think you can define the color on a per-clade basis but you'd have to define it for each leaf

late island Mar 30, 2019, 10:43 PM

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let's see if this works

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I added it to every section so I know if I'm just doing it the wrong way

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 10:46 PM

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lol

📎 unknown.png

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you wouldn't change the border-color would you?

late island Mar 30, 2019, 10:48 PM

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that's the color right?

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 10:48 PM

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im not sure

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i guess try it

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 10:56 PM

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thanks for template

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is good

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 10:56 PM

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np

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 11:16 PM

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i dont think the css worked

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 11:39 PM

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https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/subnautica/images/5/57/Disease_Research_Facility_Skeleton.png/revision/latest?cb=20170223033546

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can someone try uploading this to the BZ wiki, I can't for some reason

chrome jackal Mar 30, 2019, 11:39 PM

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that thing

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is sexy man

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 11:40 PM

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https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/File:Disease_Research_Facility_Skeleton.png

File:Disease Research Facility Skeleton.png

Welcome to the Subnautica: Below Zero Wiki, a Wiki Keeper-maintained encyclopedia about Unknown Worlds' Subnautica: Below Zero and all of its related media. We currently maintain a total of 326...

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 11:41 PM

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it kept telling me .png didn't match

chrome jackal Mar 30, 2019, 11:41 PM

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guess what

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 11:41 PM

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I get that sometimes

chrome jackal Mar 30, 2019, 11:41 PM

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if you dive in the void in creative about 3250m i think

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 11:41 PM

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I just download it from the article link or something

chrome jackal Mar 30, 2019, 11:41 PM

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you can hear these sounds

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which are not ghost leviathan

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 11:41 PM

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@chrome jackal this channel is for wiki discussion only

chrome jackal Mar 30, 2019, 11:41 PM

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now tell me what they are

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yes sir sorry

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speak on general

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 11:42 PM

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wrong channel

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 11:57 PM

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I see now

#

my laptop refuses to save certain images correctly
I don't know why

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https://gyazo.com/6a58a5e637d5559fb5ee35ba6c0fcbe9

Gyazo

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shows them like this in the folder

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Nah mine does it sometimes too

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 11:57 PM

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and if they're like that they won't upload

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Yeah i get that

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let's blame it on fandom and leave it at that

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 11:58 PM

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I don't know how to get around it.

agile spindle Mar 30, 2019, 11:58 PM

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if you're getting the issue from the vignette link I just go back to the image-article link and download that

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it's the same res and it usually works fine

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or vice versa if you're getting the issue from the image-article

summer kindle Mar 30, 2019, 11:59 PM

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what do you mean by the image article link

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wait

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got it

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 12:00 AM

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https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/File:Oculus.png

File:Oculus.png

Welcome to the Subnautica: Below Zero Wiki, a Wiki Keeper-maintained encyclopedia about Unknown Worlds' Subnautica: Below Zero and all of its related media. We currently maintain a total of 326...

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that

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just right click and download

turbid ermine Mar 31, 2019, 12:08 AM

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The seamonkey nest can unlock the constructor and the seaglide.

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It's not on the wiki.

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SeaMonkeyNest1 => LaserCutter
SeaMonkeyNest2 => PropulsionCannon
SeaMonkeyNest3 => HighCapacityTank
SeaMonkeyNest4 => Seaglide
SeaMonkeyNest5 => Constructor

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2 fragments needed.

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 12:09 AM

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I was told that was a bug

turbid ermine Mar 31, 2019, 12:10 AM

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It's entries in the file that's for sure, maybe it's not intended but it's there.

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 2:09 AM

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Alright, the bot is going to check for articles still using {{Recipe}} instead of {{Recipe2}}.

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 2:10 AM

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whoa

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why

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 2:10 AM

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I just found two.

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 2:10 AM

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stop checking

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why are you checking for that

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 2:10 AM

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Nothing to do while my dinner microwaves.

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 2:10 AM

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But Recipe and Recipe2 are different templates

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Recipe is how the template is built and Recipe2 stores the individual recipes as a database

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 2:11 AM

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And articles should use {{Recipe2}}.

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 2:11 AM

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Are you sure the articles in question need recipe2?

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what are the ones you found?

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 2:12 AM

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I found Chair just now while browsing the wiki.

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 2:12 AM

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hm ok

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 2:16 AM

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Note to self/whoever: https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Giveaway_Items needs conversions from {{Recipe}} to {{Recipe2}}, including updating the latter template to have the recipes.

Subnautica Wiki

Giveaway Items

Giveaway Items are placeable items built using the Habitat Builder. They can only be placed inside of the Cyclops or Seabases. At the moment, the access to these items is restricted. One either...

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 2:59 PM

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Since we have the Fauna page ordered like the databank should the flora page do the same

hybrid bear Mar 31, 2019, 3:09 PM

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There’s something called scrolling up and reading.

sinful yarrow Mar 31, 2019, 3:22 PM

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I say yes, tueman

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 3:59 PM

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@cinder kestrel {{CoralLink}} is ready

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also CoralTable/Table Coral lol

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Did how to change the clade template’s colour not get worked out

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 4:18 PM

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the thing dino tried didn't work, no

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lemme see what i can do

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 4:19 PM

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For some reason you can’t apply custom colours to the labels either

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 4:19 PM

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oh?

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📎 unknown.png

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<div style="color:red">Arctic Waters</div>

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 4:24 PM

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Oh ok I tried to use the same thing that is used to colour naxbox text

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Apparently it’s just that which doesn’t work

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 4:24 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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temp solution

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📎 unknown.png

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alternatively you can specify the background color for the entire page

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from what i can tell changing the color of the lines would require some heavy module modification which i dont have the know-how to do

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alternatively-alternatively I can try to add this template which is specifically made for containing the clade template

📎 unknown.png

sinful yarrow Mar 31, 2019, 4:29 PM

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alpha peeper? ooh

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Nah that doesn’t seem needed

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 4:30 PM

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oki

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Hmmm I can use a modified tool tips template to add compact information to the clades

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 4:38 PM

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uh

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theoretically

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 4:39 PM

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It wasn’t a question

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 4:39 PM

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sounds like youre playing with fire

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You can't just make a new FaunaTable template because the tooltip literally pulls straight from each template page

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actually, hm

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 4:40 PM

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I know

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 4:40 PM

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I guess you could just make a new table but you'd have to build it yourself cause using the FaunaTable template probably doesnt suit your needs

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Yeah I worked that out

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I just need one box

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For text

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 4:42 PM

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also you will have to put it as a subpage in FaunaTable because of how the JS reads tooltips

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#below-zero-chat

sand patrol Mar 31, 2019, 4:46 PM

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thx

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:03 PM

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@summer kindle if you want I can hook up a CladeInfo tooltip for you

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Nah I deleted it because putting it in there messes with the clade template

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:04 PM

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How do you know? if you put {{CladeInfo}} in your clade obviously it'll break, you arent linking the tooltip but the whole table

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:05 PM

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That is not what I did

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Then what did you try?

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:09 PM

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https://gyazo.com/0c09dd9ca1405fc81b382629e2eac7e3

Gyazo

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that but obviously there's a missing step

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:09 PM

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I mean you are linking the entire table by doing that

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If you want a tooltip I can easily set it up for you

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:12 PM

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There's probably a better way to do this anyway isn't there

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:12 PM

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I suggested references earlier

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but unlike on wikipedia those dont show up in the tooltip so it might be a bit awkward

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:14 PM

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I see you've already done it

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:14 PM

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yeah

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i mean it's really easy to do, it just takes a few hours while it waits for approval

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you can set up the tables now or when it's ready you just wont be able to link them till it gets approved

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:21 PM

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god looking at the alpha peeper entry for the first time in a while

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it's so wrong

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:21 PM

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is it? lol

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:22 PM

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the way it talks about it is just a misunderstanding of how evolution works

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Like how it describes the alpha peeper as developing photosensitive patches of skin and later, eyes

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that would be many, many species

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not the alpha peeper

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and calls the Eyeye and Reginald subspecies

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:25 PM

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theyre just species right

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:25 PM

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and also insinuates that they only evolved eyes then? That seems pretty late to evolve eyes

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and I also disagree with the Eyeye being included there in general

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can I make the text not bold

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:30 PM

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changed it

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:30 PM

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thanks

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:31 PM

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if i were you I'd specify a maximum width cause that thing might be hard to display nicely on smaller screens or bigger clades

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:31 PM

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If you were me you wouldn't know how to do that

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:32 PM

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changed it also

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:32 PM

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What do I add to make the text itself smaller

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:33 PM

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style="width:60%; font-size:12px"

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or whatever size

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the width is the table width not the text

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:34 PM

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I got that

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I don't know most things but I know some

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albeit not much

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The Alpha Ray entry has similar issues

minor axle Mar 31, 2019, 5:38 PM

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"Playstation 4
There are currently no known techniques to use console commands in the PS4 version of Subnautica, although some may be implemented later."

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i thought cheats are on ps4

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:38 PM

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#subnautica-chat

minor axle Mar 31, 2019, 5:38 PM

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no thats on the wiki

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:38 PM

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I don't know, unless you have a PS4 to test it dont change it

minor axle Mar 31, 2019, 5:39 PM

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isnt there like a button thing like the xbox 1?

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:39 PM

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xbox doesnt have cheats either

minor axle Mar 31, 2019, 5:39 PM

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they do

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"Pressing XBOX Left Bumper + XBOX A + XBOX Right Bumper brings up an input box.
Pressing XBOX Left Bumper + XBOX Start + XBOX Right Bumper will open the Start menu and add a seventh "Developer" option, "

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 5:40 PM

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pretty sure they removed that

minor axle Mar 31, 2019, 5:40 PM

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why would they :/

edgy lagoon Mar 31, 2019, 5:53 PM

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This isn't a discussion for the wiki chat.

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The only thing to take into consideration really is removing the description on how to enable console for Xbox, as it no longer works.

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 6:15 PM

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@agile spindle The work on {{CoralLink}} is successfully completed.

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 6:16 PM

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gratzie

late island Mar 31, 2019, 6:35 PM

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Just read that Alpha Peeper entry

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oof

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actually was that ever even added?

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 6:36 PM

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like in the game? yeah

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I asked this earlier but should we order the Flora page like the databank does? Sea/Land/Exploitable

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 6:39 PM

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Well currently we don't know what plants may or may not be useful really

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and where would you place things like the Lily and Glow Plants? Exploitable?

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 6:40 PM

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yes

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 6:41 PM

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just had a revelation

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Bloom Plankton is biofluorescent, and not bioluminescent

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I am a fool

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 6:43 PM

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whats the difference for us plebs that dont understand science

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Basically bioluminescent things emit light by themselves

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biofluorescent things absorb light and then re-emit light

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so the glow plants in the dark cave are biofluorescent too

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Am I mistaken or is the Bloom Plankton the only creature that got past the concept phase and was still cut?

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Rock Puncher

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 6:46 PM

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oh

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technically i guess thats true

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Grab Crab also got past the concept phase

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 6:46 PM

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not very far past but sure

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i think that was for testing

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Sand Worm was just a test as far as we know

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 6:47 PM

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they didnt actually plan on implementing it

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 6:48 PM

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There's not really enough biofluorescence in the game to warrant a whole separate category

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maybe it can just redirect to bioluminescence and that page can have a little section about biofluorescence

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 6:49 PM

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just add a small section on the bioluminescence page about

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and mention it on their individual page/sections

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 6:49 PM

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I assume the Glow Plant is what those Chinese Potato plants are currently placeholders for

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 6:50 PM

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yeah

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 7:27 PM

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wait

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https://gyazo.com/c3834251886829866df6fcfcaad0cbf3

Gyazo

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 7:27 PM

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youre killin me

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 7:28 PM

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ok so they're actually biophosphorescent

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can we get a gif of the current glow flowers?

frail dragon Mar 31, 2019, 8:24 PM

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I’m confused why people think Xbox still has commands when I have stated at least twice on the page that console commands aren’t on Xbox or ps4
Everyone always quotes the part that begins right after when I explain that it doesn’t work...

edgy lagoon Mar 31, 2019, 9:18 PM

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I went ahead and updated the Subnautica Console Commands page (base game) to say the Xbox console has been disabled. If anyone disagrees with this edit, feel free to reverse it.

frail dragon Mar 31, 2019, 9:23 PM

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It already says that... unless someone changed it

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 9:23 PM

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clearly it doesnt if he had to edit it

frail dragon Mar 31, 2019, 9:24 PM

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And also I believe it was after Subnautica 1.0

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Well for Pc

edgy lagoon Mar 31, 2019, 9:25 PM

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It was when Subnautica 1.0 launched.

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On Xbox.

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 9:25 PM

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it isnt disabled on pc

edgy lagoon Mar 31, 2019, 9:25 PM

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It's fine on PC, just Xbox.

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📎 chrome_2019-03-31_14-25-43.png

frail dragon Mar 31, 2019, 9:25 PM

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ik

edgy lagoon Mar 31, 2019, 9:26 PM

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That's what I changed.

frail dragon Mar 31, 2019, 9:26 PM

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But I think saying Subnautica 1.0 refers to the PC version... well at least that’s how I interpret that

edgy lagoon Mar 31, 2019, 9:27 PM

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It was called 1.0 when it launched on Xbox and PS4

minor axle Mar 31, 2019, 10:05 PM

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well good luck for people not be able to use the spawn cheat on xbox and ps4 when stuck

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:06 PM

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why would you use the spawn command if you're stuck

minor axle Mar 31, 2019, 10:06 PM

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because i wouldnt be able to move

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:06 PM

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spawn spawns in stuff./

minor axle Mar 31, 2019, 10:07 PM

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no just write spawn itself it will tp u anywhere in the map

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:07 PM

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no it doesnt

minor axle Mar 31, 2019, 10:07 PM

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it does

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:07 PM

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it absolutely does not

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you are thinking of spawnme probably

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:08 PM

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`{{SimilarName|

minor axle Mar 31, 2019, 10:08 PM

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"spawn Respawns the player a small distance away. Good for getting un-stuck."

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:09 PM

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where does it say that

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:09 PM

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Towards the bottom.

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Above the section "List of spawnable creatures or items."

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:11 PM

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Well I don't know what moron wrote that because I'm doing it in game and it does nothing @minor axle

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:15 PM

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@agile spindle That fact was added in 2015. That may explain it.

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https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Console_Commands?diff=next&oldid=5357

Subnautica Wiki

Console Commands?diff=next&oldid=5357

Console Commands are a group of tools that adjust the player's Subnautica experience outside the normal scope of the game. These commands can be used for debugging purposes, viewing partially...

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:15 PM

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Actually like I said the command is spawnme not spawn

edgy lagoon Mar 31, 2019, 10:15 PM

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What is that image

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:15 PM

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the text was correct but the name was not

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:16 PM

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@edgy lagoon

📎 300.png

edgy lagoon Mar 31, 2019, 10:16 PM

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That's from before the H2O update jesus

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:16 PM

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April 13, 2015.

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That is when the image was uploaded.

edgy lagoon Mar 31, 2019, 10:16 PM

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God

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So long ago

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:18 PM

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Y'know bip you shoulda just done your clade stuff on the SN wiki cause I already uploaded all the BZ fauna pictures to it with a few exceptions

edgy lagoon Mar 31, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Never even heard of the "spawnme" command

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:20 PM

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the bz wiki says spawnnearby

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i dont know what is real anymore

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:20 PM

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You can check.

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:20 PM

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SN wiki is so last year

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:20 PM

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lol fair enough

edgy lagoon Mar 31, 2019, 10:21 PM

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SN Wiki Better Wiki don't @ me.

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:21 PM

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@edgy lagoon fool

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:21 PM

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okay it is spawnnearby

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as always the BZ wiki prevails

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Did we ever hear back from the other wiki keepers about migrating?

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:23 PM

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nope

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Not really necessary

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:24 PM

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You want to say "yes" and be done with polling around?

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:24 PM

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like dino said it's more of a question of whether they are willing to do it

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than if WE are willing to, because most of us are okay with it

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Yeah my point is most of our opinions here don't actually matter

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Let's wait to find out how much work it will be until after Ted approves.

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:25 PM

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It wouldn't really be that much work for us

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:25 PM

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(Sorry, if he approves)

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:25 PM

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like, not an obscene amount

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but for the devs, well someone would have to set it up

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:26 PM

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We should all do a big screenshare so that UWE can livestream our progress and receive lots of money and recognition.

minor axle Mar 31, 2019, 10:26 PM

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The pathfinder got removed after ea iirc

📎 IMG_20190331_232621.jpg

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:26 PM

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And undoubtedly the original wiki would still be the most visited

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.

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:26 PM

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well someone would have to set it up
Hopefully, we are not involved with most of that work, just some of it.

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:26 PM

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what

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:27 PM

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The Pathfinder tool got removed?

minor axle Mar 31, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Isn't that the tool where you dig in the ground

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Terraformer.

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:27 PM

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no

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Bleeder, new rule: you have to check in game before you come to us with issues

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okay?

edgy lagoon Mar 31, 2019, 10:27 PM

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^

minor axle Mar 31, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Ok

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:27 PM

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because so far you're 0/2 for being right and it's very annoying

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Or you ask in #subnautica-chat / #below-zero-chat .

minor axle Mar 31, 2019, 10:27 PM

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Ok

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:28 PM

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@summer kindle over time our wiki would regain the userbase

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Not really. Because the original one will still be there

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Yeah but it would slowly become more outdated

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not to mention it is very difficult to edit for new users

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Well, if we replace all pages with signs redirecting to the new wiki, that would help.

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That is, until FANDOM staff revert that.

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:29 PM

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and obviously the newer wiki would be advertised in place of it

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:29 PM

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master plan, make it so complex that nobody else can work it out

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:29 PM

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I mean, that's how it is now lol

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Recipe2 is hard enough to understand for newbies

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:29 PM

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Eh, it makes sense to me.

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:29 PM

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Recipe2 ain't that bad

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I guess it is for brand new people

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since tabbers used to confuse me

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:29 PM

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i didnt understand it till I tried replicating it for databank2

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:30 PM

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So, we want to ask Ted about moving, if this is what we want?

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:30 PM

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Yeah Yayie was a god of CSS

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:30 PM

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Recipe2 isnt css

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:30 PM

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see

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:30 PM

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neither is recipe

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:30 PM

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I know nothing

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:30 PM

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templates are written in HTML

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:30 PM

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CSS is what causes the tabbers to look the way they are.

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I thought they were written in MediaWiki.

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:31 PM

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Yayie was a god of CSS and HTML

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:31 PM

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With the exception of Clade, which is written in lua

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:31 PM

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We will miss him

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:31 PM

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mm

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did he make the navboxes?

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or was that pauolo

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:31 PM

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I don't know. But he made a lot of the stuff that we use a lot

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and he implemented tabbers

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:32 PM

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Pauolo.

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https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Template:Navbox_Items?offset=20170117224427&action=history

Subnautica Wiki

Template:Navbox Items?offset=20170117224427&action=history

v ·d ·e Acid Mushroom • Alien Feces • Baby Leviathan Enzymes • Blood Oil • Cave Sulfur • Copper Ore • Creepvine Sample • Creepvine Seed Cluster • Crystalline Sulfur • Coral Tube Sample • Deep...

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:32 PM

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knew it

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that guy is still on the wiki actually

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:32 PM

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I saw him on the Hollow Knight wiki recently

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:32 PM

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Yes, still is.

📎 unknown.png

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:33 PM

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yeah he comments on the SN wiki every now and then but he doesnt do much editing

minor axle Mar 31, 2019, 10:34 PM

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I have a suggestion, if possible add a wiki section on how long it will take to complete subnautica

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:34 PM

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that depends on the player

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:34 PM

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that's
subjective

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:35 PM

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We already do: https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Subnautica

Subnautica Wiki

Subnautica

Subnautica is a game made by Unknown Worlds Entertainment. Subnautica allows the player to explore an uncharted alien planet by scuba diving and traveling in submarines. The planet is almost all...

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📎 unknown.png

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:35 PM

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there you have it

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Is it still up-to-date, though?

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:36 PM

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seems right

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I ran through the game in about 10 hours so i assume a less experienced player would take 20

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:37 PM

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It has said that for over two years.

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Since December 12, 2016.

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https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Subnautica?diff=149892&oldid=149466

Subnautica Wiki

Subnautica?diff=149892&oldid=149466

Subnautica is a game made by Unknown Worlds Entertainment. Subnautica allows the player to explore an uncharted alien planet by scuba diving and traveling in submarines. The planet is almost all...

minor axle Mar 31, 2019, 10:37 PM

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20 hours even if you know where everything is?

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:38 PM

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seems like an overestimate but

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i dont know who wrote that and i dont feel like testing it

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let's just say it's an "upper estimate" and call it a day

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:44 PM

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I do not know where it originally came from.

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:48 PM

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looks like ChrisFo added it from another user's page or edit

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unfortunately that user's account doesnt seem to exist so I'm not sure

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https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Template:Parent_Page_VG

Subnautica Wiki

Template:Parent Page VG

General Information Title(s): Publisher: Description: Similar Games: Genre(s): Playthrough Length: Difficulty: Security Concerns: Gameplay Information ESRB Rating(s): PEGI Rating(s): ACB...

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found it, he made the general structure for the section but it seems like ChrisFo added the information

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How come searching Subnautica: Below Zero on the BZ takes us to the front page but searching Subnautica on the SN wiki takes us to the game page?

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:53 PM

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Because one wiki has "Wiki" in the name of the wiki, while the other does not.

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:53 PM

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on the SN wiki the main page is Subnautica Wiki

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why is that

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:54 PM

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Because somebody forgot to include "Wiki" when naming it.

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(Honestly, I do not know who)

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:54 PM

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smh

summer kindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:54 PM

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that was just me messing something up probably

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:55 PM

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Want me to ask to have it changed? We cannot do it, but FANDOM staff can.

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:55 PM

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its fine

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:55 PM

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Or should we just leave it because we plan on migrating?

agile spindle Mar 31, 2019, 10:55 PM

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just leave it

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 10:56 PM

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So, are we going to talk to Ted about migrating, or no?

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Or at least, get that date set up.

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Anyway, I am going outside to practice with my mace, so enjoy yourselves in the meantime.

cinder kestrel Mar 31, 2019, 11:29 PM

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I am back. Nothing? Oh, well.

edgy lagoon Apr 1, 2019, 12:42 AM

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Whoever made the Subnautica page didn't know how headers worked.

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There was one right above the one you fixed SLS.

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Make that two.

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There was one that wasn't labled as a header for some reason.

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 12:45 AM

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why dont you fix them then

edgy lagoon Apr 1, 2019, 12:45 AM

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I did.

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I fixed both of them.

cinder kestrel Apr 1, 2019, 2:22 AM

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But, of course, it was imperative we know.

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Even though https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges makes us aware, I guess it is a bit related to what we were discussing.

Subnautica Wiki

Special:RecentChanges

Recent changes | Subnautica Wiki | FANDOM powered by Wikia

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 2:51 AM

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@summer kindle noob

📎 unknown.png

cinder kestrel Apr 1, 2019, 2:52 AM

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I thought we said either/or on American vs. non-American English.

hallow basalt Apr 1, 2019, 2:52 AM

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miles

cinder kestrel Apr 1, 2019, 2:52 AM

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Because if we did, it is a terrible decision.

edgy lagoon Apr 1, 2019, 2:52 AM

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Who says metres

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 2:52 AM

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no one should be forced to write in a dialect they arent comfortable with

cinder kestrel Apr 1, 2019, 2:53 AM

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But the inconsistency is terrible.

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 2:53 AM

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it doesnt matter

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@edgy lagoon british say metres

edgy lagoon Apr 1, 2019, 2:53 AM

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British people are weird.

cinder kestrel Apr 1, 2019, 2:53 AM

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But by the looks of things with SoAwesome1227, it does matter.

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 2:54 AM

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if people want to waste their time "correcting" british-english thats on them

hallow basalt Apr 1, 2019, 2:54 AM

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is there something mentioning this in the guidelines

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 2:54 AM

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no

hallow basalt Apr 1, 2019, 2:54 AM

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cuz it probably should

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 2:55 AM

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anyone who thinks metres is a typo isn't smart enough to read the guidelines

frail dragon Apr 1, 2019, 3:11 AM

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wait uh, we know kelp forest is the technical name for the biome
but is creepvine forest the real name...? I remember seeing it somewhere but maybe I'm just making things up

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 3:11 AM

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well it's a forest of creepvines

cinder kestrel Apr 1, 2019, 3:11 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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📎 unknown.png

frail dragon Apr 1, 2019, 3:12 AM

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how does one "deforest" a kelp forest?

cinder kestrel Apr 1, 2019, 3:14 AM

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You know how you can strike at kelp with a knife, eventually destroying the plant?

frail dragon Apr 1, 2019, 3:15 AM

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yes

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but that would take forever with each plant

cinder kestrel Apr 1, 2019, 3:22 AM

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That is how one "deforests" a kelp forest.

late island Apr 1, 2019, 5:02 AM

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It was called Creepvine Forest once on a dev site

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but there was some reason that wasn't a thing actually

sinful yarrow Apr 1, 2019, 9:52 AM

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@edgy lagoon we are not weird

edgy lagoon Apr 1, 2019, 2:17 PM

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shrugs

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 2:58 PM

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@fierce imp do you remember the name for the cove tree databank picture?

frail dragon Apr 1, 2019, 3:14 PM

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is this the dev site you are talking about, or is this fan-made? http://subnauticagame.com/

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 3:15 PM

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thats a dev site im pretty sure

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 4:26 PM

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i probably shoulda told him no

📎 image0.png

edgy lagoon Apr 1, 2019, 4:27 PM

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Yes you should have.

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This is why I said no.

sinful yarrow Apr 1, 2019, 4:29 PM

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🤔

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I'm guessing that the devs did an April fools?

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 4:42 PM

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no just some random kid on the wiki

clever lion Apr 1, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Re: the Discussions update that just went live today on Fandom - I'd like to clear up one point of confusion about that: New logged-in users have the new combined Discussions Feed as their default landing page. Everyone else sees the main page as their landing page. That means 99.9% of all your visitors continue to see the main page as their landing page, because 99% of your visitors are not logged in, and everyone who had an account before today has the main page as their default. So this update barely has an impact on what your visitors see, other than the fact that it ties the wiki and Discussions closer together, visually.

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On SN, which doesn't have Discussions, today's update has no effect whatsoever.

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 5:13 PM

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Both wikis has discussions

clever lion Apr 1, 2019, 5:15 PM

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Hm. I see it now, though I could have sworn a second ago it didn't. Maybe my eyes are broken today 🙄

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 5:16 PM

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I don’t like the idea of anyone being put on the discussions page by default

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We work hard on the front page and I want people to see that

clever lion Apr 1, 2019, 5:16 PM

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And 99.9% of visitors will see it just as they have before

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Every logged-in user has a choice, so no one is forced to see the Feed when they don't want to

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 5:17 PM

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everyone should have it as the default

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if they want to land on the discussions page instead, that’s their choice

clever lion Apr 1, 2019, 5:17 PM

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There are already a ton of people (prior to this update) who chose not to see the main page as their default - those that go straight to Wiki Activity or Recent Changes

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 5:18 PM

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those are people who stay on the wiki for longer

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they made that choice consciously

clever lion Apr 1, 2019, 5:19 PM

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Our user testing and data has shown that main pages don't do a good job at getting people to stay on the wiki at all. Almost no one clicks on links on main pages, no matter how pretty and thought-out they are, except for links in the local nav, which is present everywhere on the wiki. Discussions and Feeds tend to get people to stay and jump in much, much more. That's why we chose to make that the default preference for users who first sign up. We want those people to stick around long enough to figure out the community and what they can do with it

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It's a pretty harsh reality, but admins and powerusers tend to be the only ones who really care about the wiki's main page, who put a lot of effort into it and who take great pride in a really well-designed main page. Your casual user generally only uses it as a jumping-off point to what they're actually looking for, and they tend to use the local nav for that and not even click on main page modules

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Plus, almost everyone lands on the wiki because they've found a specific page on Google, so they enter the wiki on an article page, not the main page

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 5:23 PM

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Sounds to me like the goal you have in mind is to keep people on the wiki for participation rather than to help them get info easier

clever lion Apr 1, 2019, 5:24 PM

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Both, ideally

summer kindle Apr 1, 2019, 5:24 PM

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I can’t tell if that’s meant to be a bad thing

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 5:25 PM

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the primary purpose of the wiki should be giving people info on the game

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i don’t like the focus being shifted away from that

clever lion Apr 1, 2019, 5:25 PM

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Yes, and since people find their info either via Google or via the local nav, this update doesn't get in their way

summer kindle Apr 1, 2019, 5:25 PM

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I also agree with Mira on this.
I personally almost never use main pages on wikis.

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And I’ve always thought our own main page was kinda messy

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 5:28 PM

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well i was actually working on improving it recently

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i got a roadblock but was planning on getting back to it

summer kindle Apr 1, 2019, 5:28 PM

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It doesn’t seem too useful. I don’t think that this change would have any negative impact on users’ ability to find things.
Simply due to the fact that it’s easier to just use the search bar.

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The only thing we ever really did with our main page was put the update videos on it

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Speaking of, did we do that for the Sea Truck update?

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 5:30 PM

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yes

summer kindle Apr 1, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Ok

cursive vigil Apr 1, 2019, 5:56 PM

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e

summer kindle Apr 1, 2019, 5:56 PM

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e

frail dragon Apr 1, 2019, 6:03 PM

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e?

cursive vigil Apr 1, 2019, 6:30 PM

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e

frail dragon Apr 1, 2019, 6:33 PM

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e

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 6:33 PM

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you guys have to stop

cursive vigil Apr 1, 2019, 6:33 PM

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will i get banned if i say no

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?

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 6:34 PM

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https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Template:BiomeTable/Twisty_Bridges biometable example

Subnautica: Below Zero

Twisty Bridges

Template:BiomeTable/Twisty Bridges | Subnautica: Below Zero | FANDOM powered by Wikia

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i had a hard time making this one look good

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for april fools you guys should give me feedback on things, it’ll be hilarious

summer kindle Apr 1, 2019, 6:42 PM

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I feel like that might be a bit overkill

cursive vigil Apr 1, 2019, 6:42 PM

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im sorry

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that was mean

summer kindle Apr 1, 2019, 6:42 PM

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the resources and fauna sections seem unneeded

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or just the fauna section

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 6:42 PM

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hm ok

summer kindle Apr 1, 2019, 6:43 PM

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also

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Peepers all in one genus or Oculus and Peeper in one with Arctic Peeper in another

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actually they should probably be 3

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yeah we'll go with 3

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 6:45 PM

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https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Template:BiomeTable/Twisty_Bridges

Subnautica: Below Zero

Twisty Bridges

Template:BiomeTable/Twisty Bridges | Subnautica: Below Zero | FANDOM powered by Wikia

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the picture does look better this way

summer kindle Apr 1, 2019, 6:46 PM

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I should have been clearer

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I meant remove fauna and keep resources

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 6:47 PM

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oh

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how bout now

summer kindle Apr 1, 2019, 6:52 PM

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yeah that's good

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 6:52 PM

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how’d you come up with these taxon names bip

summer kindle Apr 1, 2019, 6:53 PM

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How could I possibly think of

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Reginaldoidea

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 6:53 PM

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i mean like magnoculi and all that

summer kindle Apr 1, 2019, 6:53 PM

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well that just means big eye

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 6:53 PM

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oh

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lol

summer kindle Apr 1, 2019, 6:54 PM

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di-oculi-formes
two eyed

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 6:54 PM

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doesn’t every species get a species name even if it’s the only one in its family?

frail dragon Apr 1, 2019, 6:54 PM

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on Planet 4546B would you still have things like Arthropoda or would it be something else

summer kindle Apr 1, 2019, 6:54 PM

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Yeah I've already got all the species names written out

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just need to add them

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@frail dragon They would be something else

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there I added all of the species names

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Eyeyes have three because they're subspecies

frail dragon Apr 1, 2019, 6:58 PM

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did you just make up the names though?

summer kindle Apr 1, 2019, 6:59 PM

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yes

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Reginald is the real star
Superfamily: Reginaldoidea
Family: Reginaldae
Genus: Reginald
Species: reginald

frail dragon Apr 1, 2019, 7:00 PM

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um ok

summer kindle Apr 1, 2019, 7:00 PM

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that's not outlandish

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https://gyazo.com/e9f1d77b1620d9de27a7c5a6b9f7a1cf

Gyazo

agile spindle Apr 1, 2019, 7:01 PM

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buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo

summer kindle Apr 1, 2019, 7:03 PM

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I got the armoured creatures names all worked out too

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working on rays