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#📚wiki-discussion
stuck crane
cinder kestrel
Hmm.
This is starting to devolve from being like a wiki.
It seems more like a . . . fandom.
What is the DevWatcher ro— #off-topic
tawny solstice
can we have console commands back on xbox one
agile spindle
no
tawny solstice
awww
fading halo
ouch
hallow basalt
Is the BZ wiki gonna have a data downloads page?
fierce imp
already does
hallow basalt
so not just data downloads
agile spindle
no its everything
hallow basalt
because we have Data Downloads and Databank on SN wiki
i suppose I should just move over what's on data downloads to databank
hallow basalt
I like to do it while playing the game
hallow basalt
It seems using <poem> in the databank template fixes most of the issues I'm having with the template
agile spindle
okay lemme try something then
hallow basalt
you could put it in the template i suppose
the only problem would be having to remove <br> from all of them
hallow basalt
aight
agile spindle
done
hallow basalt
shouldn't we have a part for audio files?
or do I just put it at the end of the description?
agile spindle
the way it looks in the desc is fine
hallow basalt
it seems <poem> doesn't work properly when it's part of the template
hallow basalt
Some entries have a few spaces before the hyphens
agile spindle
like which ones
hallow basalt
and if it doesn't have <poem> it looks like this:
Data downloads
for the most part
hallow basalt
even when i don't use hyphens it also does that
like if i do this:
[text]
[text]
[text]
thorny tinsel
Like
hallow basalt
the second line is going to look like that image
agile spindle
why would you do that though
agile spindle
No you do * This is a bullet
hallow basalt
<poem> should stop that from happening but it's not
agile spindle
there shouldnt be a space at the start of a line ever
hallow basalt
ok i guess
stuck crane
https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Jonas_Bötel_(Developer)?action=history wow there was a whole conversation in Jonas' page history
agile spindle
hehe i remember that
proper needle
"certified meme lord" lol
cursive vigil
How many hours do you guys have for this wiki stuff
agile spindle
in game?
cursive vigil
yea
agile spindle
bout 230 through both games
cursive vigil
nice
cinder kestrel
https://discordapp.com/channels/85342800492634112/188459887200698368/545357171785728005
Alright, now doing this.
summer kindle
Is that link only broken for me
summer kindle
Oh that’s what it is
agile spindle
it applies across the server
proper needle
Let's not do t anyways in here 😉
proper needle
;p
thorny tinsel
REKTED
fierce imp
stop
thorny tinsel
420
cinder kestrel
(Takes ten seconds to realize what you mean)
Ah, okay.
thorny tinsel
360
proper needle
@thorny tinsel ...
cinder kestrel
420/360=6/7=(approximately)0.85.
agile spindle
@cinder kestrel do you know how to get sound files from the game?
summer kindle
Doesn’t Vivi do that?
fierce imp
do you mean the program
agile spindle
Where/how do you extract them?
fierce imp
streamingassets folder
agile spindle
what program?
agile spindle
thanks
hybrid bear
It’s hard to see it if the fog is on.
agile spindle
because their lighting is glitched and i figured you would replace the pictures whether i took them correctly or not
cursive vigil
cool
late island
The fog makes it easier to see down there
and it's still inaccurate whatever the case
karmic niche
heady gulch
How many sound files do each contain on average?
agile spindle
@fierce imp is there a reason we upload in .ogg rather than .wav?
fierce imp
smaller file size
agile spindle
oh .wav isnt an accepted file type anyway
😛
<@&192900629797142528> https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/User:Tueman/Test2 format for adding sound files to fauna pages (y/n?)
gib criticism
late island
Maybe if it was some kind of collapseable thing
agile spindle
changed, better?
late island
I mean this is weird but other than that it's good
burnt forge
weirdddddddd.........
agile spindle
@late island does 2 line breaks fix it? https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/User:Tueman/Test2
late island
yeah
chilly grove
Deep Grand Reef wiki page: Someone listed Alien Containment etc under Fragments.
What's the line between listing something as a Fragment, and something that is a Scannable Object which adds a blueprint? And also, should this truly be listed here? I mean it's duplicated information that I'd think is only suitable for the Degasi seabase page.
oh And hi. Just joined.
agile spindle
I think it's fine to keep them on that page, players might want to know what they can get from wrecks in the area
And while I don't exactly consider them fragments, players generally think of both as the same thing
chilly grove
It seemed a little out of place is all. Most of the wiki pages keep the fragments belonging to wrecks and special areas separate from the main biome page.
BovineGod
😉
chilly grove
Ok, I'll put it on my todo list.
Also, the Crash Zone Mesas vs main biome page has a lot of duplication.
There is a difficulty in distinction there what is truly Crash Zone organisms and what is specifically belonging to the Mesas.
I don't know if the mesas have a specific area id, but they are significant enough to keep their own page.
agile spindle
they do have their own id
We put fauna that wanders deep enough into the area because players will "encounter" them there
and all biome pages have an exhaustive list of resources and organisms, even if they're mini biomes
chilly grove
OK I'm having difficulty trying to spit out why it's standing out to me.
Look at the Lost River page. Detailed, with sub-biome areas under tabbing. The only supplementary pages to this page are ones like the "Bone Fields Caves".
This is great. One stop shop for information regarding this zone.
I'm not saying that caverns and such should be integrated into all main biome pages, it's just got me wondering whether we A. Remove duplicated data about the mesas in the Crash Zone page and leave the genuine sub-page, or B merge it completely.
agile spindle
yeah we're very inconsistent with our merging policies
this is an issue that the entire team would be notified about generally
<@&192900629797142528> merge crash zone mesas with crash zone page?
cinder kestrel
Ouch, ping.
(I was stalking this conversation for the past couple minutes)
Disagree, partially because it would mean even more redirects than articles, partially because (insert my second next message here)
agile spindle
more redirects than articles?
We can just change all pages that reference it
That's what SLSbot is for
cinder kestrel
I meant how we have (I am going to make up the numbers here) 450 articles and 600 redirects.
agile spindle
Fairly certain every wiki has more redirects than pages
What's so bad about that anyway?
cinder kestrel
(insert my second previous message here) I agree with the suggestion of "Remove duplicated data about the mesas in the Crash Zone page and leave the genuine sub-page."
agile spindle
IMO it's not important enough to deserve its own page
chilly grove
Well, my opinion is that a merged page (which at the moment is a little beyond my normal level of editing I've been doing),
Looks better.
cinder kestrel
Fairly certain every wiki has more redirects than pages
I checked the Disney wiki (25,000 articles to 6,197 redirects) and the Minecraft wiki (950 articles to 701 redirects).
chilly grove
However, I would accept the alternative as well. The issue I really had was duplication.
agile spindle
We're gonna need more opinions for this, so we'll just wait to deal with it until someone else chimes in
@cinder kestrel Unfair comparison; the disney wiki has a lot of minor characters that won't really be referred to in more ways than one
chilly grove
Glad I joined and didn't proactively pee on your guys campfire.
cinder kestrel
Want me to pull up more wikis?
agile spindle
And in minecraft everything is referred to in game, subnautica has a lot of names derived from code or IDs
sure
chilly grove
What's the preference between [[Kelp Forest|Kelp Forests]] and [[Kelp Forest]]s by the way?
agile spindle
[[Kelp Forest]]s is shorter and easier to read
idk why you'd ever prefer the alternative
chilly grove
It all depends on what's going on behind the scenes is all. If it's really no different I'll use the shorter.
At first I didn't realise that the s was automatically included as part of the link, so I was using the other method.
cinder kestrel
starwars: >25000 to >25000
dinsey: >25000 to 6197
marvel: >25000 to >25000
fategrandorder: 3609 to 1065
dc: >25000 to >25000
residentevil/es: 4288 to 731
drama: 635 to 72
warframe: 4345 to 1477```Out of the top nine wikis, six support my claim and three are neutral.
"Neutral" being that they are all beyond of the limit of 25,000 entries that the bot can handle.
agile spindle
In your opinion, we should not have more redirects then?
cinder kestrel
I would rather get us to have more articles, although what cannot be solved is unsolvable.
Until it is solvable, that is.
agile spindle
I'm looking at the redirects list and I see very few redirects that could be trimmed
cinder kestrel
I do not think we have any bad redirects, but perhaps we can put more information on the wiki by replacing some redirects with full-on articles.
agile spindle
I think it looks better and is more accessible to have information on larger pages with redirects going there
chilly grove
I mean its a personal preference with me regarding the number of pages and links I visit, but I always prefer more information on one page, because my connection speed is basically trash.
cinder kestrel
Merge the two wikisOne thing we could do is expand out the Cut Content article.
Really, I do not know how much we know about the cut stuff, but perhaps . . . ?
agile spindle
I would love to merge the two wikis, unfortunately no one else wants to go for that
And none of the articles on Cut Content have enough to be worth making their own pages
cinder kestrel
Copying over articles would not be a problem.
One down, a lot to go.
agile spindle
Also if we were to merge the two wikis no one would be opposed to switching to gamepedia at the same time
but that's neither here nor there
cinder kestrel
Is this all we know about those topics?
agile spindle
yes
agile spindle
That was back when the wiki wasn't as populated
cinder kestrel
no one would be opposed to switching to gamepedia at the same time
Until the two companies (maybe) merge all the wikis together.
agile spindle
we all pray that wont happen
personally im still crossing my fingers that UWE offers us a website
cinder kestrel
It would not really harm this wiki, but others it might.
chilly grove
Oh, and a quick question. There isn't a way you can "comment out" sections in source mode is there?
agile spindle
<!--Comment Text here-->
chilly grove
Excellent. Thanks.
sage zinc
confused
spice compass
What are you cunfused about?
sage zinc
We should probably remove that
agile spindle
so remove it
paper flare
get tue'd
sage zinc
uhh
sage zinc
wo keeps adding this
sage zinc
k
fierce imp
i mean its not wrong
paper flare
but it could be phrased differently
hallow basalt
are cuddlefish egg locations considered a spoiler?
paper flare
no probably not
agile spindle
id say no
unless the location itself is a spoiler
like if stuff appears in PCF we'd mark that a spoiler
agile spindle
no
hallow basalt
ok
slate cloud
Cuddlefish are not essential to story and are just something fun to find. See no reason it would be a spoiler except for that one egg in an alien facility.
Also the degasi one
paper flare
and the crater
agile spindle
what crater?
slate cloud
The crater isnt essential though
paper flare
the dunes
agile spindle
the sinkhole?
paper flare
wait nvm
agile spindle
how is that a spoiler?
slate cloud
I think he means that pit with the thermal spire
slate cloud
Wrong spot
paper flare
no, just thought it was a cache
slate cloud
Yeah, but it's the wrong spot
paper flare
what
slate cloud
To clarify, the sinkhole with the thermal vent is where the cuddlefish egg is. The almanac cache is in a meteor crash crater if I remember correctly, a different location
slate cloud
I am terrible at explaining stuff, so I could have done better
shrewd mauve
@agile spindle isn't one of spawn locations inside the ||Primary containtment facility||
fierce imp
that isn't one you can pick up
karmic torrent
where is the giant mushroom forest on ps4
agile spindle
I think i saw it in #subnautica-chat
heady gulch
@agile spindle sorry I’m nearly 12 hours late, but for the ryley Robinson page, I’m not too up to date with the recent updates, but does below Zerp make mention of him?
lavish plank
Only in pictures I think, not in text
paper flare
no they don't at all
lavish plank
He shows up in a team picture for the starting research base
heady gulch
Does he?
agile spindle
who is zerp
fluid lagoon
he's not in that picture
paper flare
didn't think so
lavish plank
Are you sure? It looked exactly like him
heady gulch
Well, in that case I don’t think below zero should have a page for him, it’s a bit unnecessary and a redirect to the page on Subnautica Wiki would be better.
fluid lagoon
if i'm thinking of the guy you're thinking of, he does not look like him at all
paper flare
why do we have pages for placeholders I'm just gonna ask again
agile spindle
because people dont know that theyre placeholders
paper flare
ah ok
wet sand
i mean
agile spindle
second guy is black
wet sand
the only similarity is like
paper flare
what
wet sand
they're both guys and their chins look a little similar i guess
paper flare
no it hasn't
fluid lagoon
it's been two years
paper flare
it's been 2 years
wet sand
yeah middle guy looks white and Ryley kind of has a darker skin tone
paper flare
that guy looks nothing like ryley
hallow basalt
The 'corrupted' lifepods aren't considered a spoiler, are they?
agile spindle
corrupted?
hallow basalt
the ones you have to find based off pictures in-game
agile spindle
no theyre not spoilers
hallow basalt
alright
Should items of the same group (like Plant Pots or Chairs) be listed in tabs like this:
* Chairs ** Command Chair ** Office Chair ** Swivel Chair
Or like this:
` * Command Chair
(...)
- Office Chair
(...) - Swivel Chair`
agile spindle
second imo
hallow basalt
mmm ok
desert plume
can someone answer me what the point of the flare is?
desert plume
if its just for that why not use a flashlight
pastel nexus
Batteries
desert plume
gotcha and i dont think so but im gonna ask anyways, can you grow gel sacks so you dont have to keep finding them and if not, where do you find them
desert plume
sweeeeeetttt. thanks
somber jasper
Np
desert plume
where do i find my initial gel sack
agile spindle
ask in a different chat this one isn’t for questions
desert plume
oh my bad
cinder kestrel
I was about to respond with a big explanation--most of which would be explaining why the user is so terrible at making a good blog.
Then I realized that I would be embracing something against the rules.
hallow basalt
reaper leviathan's
cinder kestrel
(It is an article, although at first I thought it was a blog)
Or rather, it was an article.
cinder kestrel
I still went ahead and made https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Thread:188840 .
Most of that message was just a copy-paste from when I made a similar message several days ago (on another wiki).
frail dragon
Oh the excuse is always “it’s my first time”
agile spindle
We got permission from the devs for the creature sounds @late island
So I'm gonna go ahead and do that now on both wikis
also who is Mario Beltran?
cinder kestrel
agile spindle
i think you'll find that google search reveals nothing
cinder kestrel
Was I supposed to be specific?
agile spindle
i think he's the lead for the console crossover
turbid ermine
agile spindle
We have single sentence pages though
summer kindle
Yeah but I didn’t even know what he did at the time
agile spindle
What about luke adwick?
frail dragon
so we still have the old reaper video?
agile spindle
ask nate idk
late island
What old Reaper video?
agile spindle
Someone wanted to make a video to request fandom to replace their crap money-scum video and we wanted to start on the reaper page
they havent updated us about it though
dapper eagle
Is the reaper in below zero? I hate it
summer kindle
no
candid garnet
coarse onyx
That's the main reason I bought BZ
fluid lagoon
why is that your main reason of all reasons
proven sierra
“My main reason for buying BZ is to support the devs. Also because I loved the first game.”
stuck crane
^
tepid swallow
^
fluid lagoon
i didn't buy BZ 😎
proven sierra
Me neither. I bought BZ early access 😎
agile spindle
🤔
fluid lagoon
yes
proven sierra
how
fluid lagoon
i have the phone number of charlie's mother's friend's cousin's dog
proven sierra
:o
stuck crane
wot
proven sierra
That must be a really smart dog to have a phone!
fluid lagoon
he said "woof woof" and i was like damn thanks
proven sierra
Can I have their number too?
stuck crane
lmao
fluid lagoon
no it's private
stuck crane
🐶
proven sierra
Aww
cinder kestrel
Yes, https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/User:PlNG is a bot.
Rather rude to be a bot without asking anybody, if you ask me . . .
And I am not at all saying that because I feel possessive of SLSbot . . .
Ellipses . . .
proven sierra
. . .
cursive vigil
heyo
agile spindle
hi do you have a wiki question?
agile spindle
i’m a wiki admin
cursive vigil
i buyed the subnautica
heady gulch
Nice
agile spindle
do you have a wiki question?
cursive vigil
no
knotty cedar
🤣
cursive vigil
;-;
agile spindle
okay well there is a #subnautica-chat for subnautica topics
knotty cedar
Why are you talking here, ifyou don't have a Wiki question 😂😂😂
crimson latch
how can i reload the chunks because it sometimes glitches out
agile spindle
ask in #subnautica-chat
crimson latch
oh thats not a wiki question
agile spindle
well it's not about the wiki
crimson latch
fine ill apologize, sorry
cursive vigil
😆
fierce imp
pastel nexus
How’d you do that
stuck crane
some never learn
summer kindle
I think we should add the Sea Truck Cabin to the module list on the page
Just for clarity
agile spindle
what would it link to
summer kindle
Nothing
summer kindle
Do we have an icon for it
agile spindle
The sea truck icons just came out, so ask dino
unless you mean if it has an unknown icon set up
which it does not, but Sea Truck.png does
frail dragon
Do we have a wiki page with every checkin
frail dragon
If we started from day one then it’d be no challenge to do but now we have a lot of checkins to do and it wouldn’t be worth it
agile spindle
some of the checkins dont even do anything
what would be the point of that page when we can just link the checkins
frail dragon
Tbh I don’t see a point in doing a page on that anymore
paper flare
lmao
agile spindle
hm i must've misremembered
I feel like it would be better if they had their transparency though
ehh actually scratch that
agile spindle
when do we change the fauna/flora pages to be like the sn wiki’s
summer kindle
What about them
agile spindle
on the sn wiki they’re sorted by diet
agile spindle
so when do we change it?
summer kindle
I don’t know.
When we have all of them?
I guess to be fully correct to the PDA it should actually be divided into carn/herb/scav and leviathans
agile spindle
i was actually about to say that
having leviathans by diet makes them really hard to find for newer players
i’ll resort the page when i get home if that’s okay, keeping potential and placeholder creatures in those categories
summer kindle
Then it’s carni
summer kindle
I mean the Arctic Ray was one thing but literally writing a creature as a carnivore and still placing it under herbivores is another
I’m gonna scream
summer kindle
Says in the entry it eats small invertebrates
agile spindle
lol
summer kindle
5000iq lore
agile spindle
i guess it has to go under herbivores though
summer kindle
Yes. Along with Arctic Ray.
agile spindle
reee
summer kindle
Triops should go under scavengers
agile spindle
email tom about it
summer kindle
He stopped responding after like 2 emails
summer kindle
Also we don’t know what the large bird is
agile spindle
put it under potential? idk
it’s probably a herbivore
also idk if it’s there but jellyfish needs a section
summer kindle
Jellyfish is in there under potential
I’ve done away with the returning species section too
And I’ve added the Lev section on the SN wiki
formal trellis
@fierce imp
fierce imp
that's really low res
and the glass is still there
formal trellis
1 sec
i can change the color grade to filmic but then its really dark
is that ok?
1 sec ill get a new sc
cinder kestrel
It has been one second.
cinder kestrel
Thirteen minutes later . . .
cinder kestrel
11755=7725=25253+252=6253+25*2=1875+50+1925.
Ten to fifteen seconds to compute mentally.
Happy?
cinder kestrel
It varies based on the current state of my brain.
Given the Mean Absolute Deviation (probably), 10-15 is most accurate.
still vortex
okay so @fierce imp do we submit pictures here? i've got a few detail pics of the sea monkey and a pic of the baby's head pattern glowing
agile spindle
if you want to verify that it's up to standards for the wiki yes
otherwise just add them to the page yourself
still vortex
alright
agile spindle
I think we have pictures for those though
still vortex
lemme check
fierce imp
yeah we have pictures of the sea monkey's hands and the baby's bioluminescence
still vortex
my pic is a close up
agile spindle
show us
agile spindle
i dont think we need those
we already have two pictures of the head symbol and we don't really need a picture of the hands
still vortex
i mean the only pic of the hands on the wiki is hard to see
still vortex
ooo okay i can do that
summer kindle
Add the hands picture
summer kindle
That’s good
agile spindle
you should have fog off
still vortex
oh right
summer kindle
Doesn’t having fog off make the blue sky visible
fierce imp
yes
agile spindle
not if you enable water surface
still vortex
i can't figure out how to get a better pic than that
agile spindle
why
still vortex
the others have vesper in them
agile spindle
are you directly beneath the vesper?
agile spindle
warp -4000 -4000 -4000
summer kindle
You can also use mspaint to just quickly paint black over anything that’s in the shot
I do it a lot
summer kindle
There’s an eye dropper tool
summer kindle
I’ve not seen anybody notice and I’ve never been able to notice it myself
hallow basalt
anyone know if this file is on the sn wiki?
agile spindle
lol cuno you dummy
agile spindle
he's looking for that one specifically because it's a PDA entry
paper flare
nice 👌
fierce imp
just carar im pretty sure
summer kindle
Yeah there wasn’t anything else
hybrid bear
It was called the Germ
bleak cosmos
This has probably been stated before, but on Margureit's section in the Below Zero Wiki, it states that Margureit's arrival to Sector Zero is unknown, ||but using Ency_All reveals two entries under the Degasi Survivor section which tells us how she arrived.||
agile spindle
it tells us how she got to the middle of the ocean
doesn't mention sector zero or the arctic once
hallow basalt
so i guess the pda entry image i posted isn't on the sn wiki
hallow basalt
well yes
agile spindle
ill see if i can find it
jade bronze
First
severe locust
First what?
chilly grove
I think Power Transmitter on SN wiki needs a better fragment image.
cedar nexus
I'm trying to understand in depth more about subnautica's background; like, the government stuff. I read on Wiki about it, and it's super fascinating. I feel like I'm missing something, though. Could someone explain it?
agile spindle
what specifically are you confused about?
cedar nexus
I know Alterra is a trans-gov, but are there other trans-govs? Idk I'm probably way off
fluid lagoon
there's like 36 other trans-govs
cedar nexus
Ohhh and Alterra is the one subnautica focuses on the most
fluid lagoon
yes
cedar nexus
Ohh ok lol
agile spindle
looks just like in game what do you mean
frail dragon
It looks like a cracked power transmitter
The legs are bent and wires are sticking out and stuff
frail dragon
You can find a lot in the bulb zone wrecks
heady gulch
last photo on the bottom in the biome, someone says they have a better picture of the seatruck in a biome in general
agile spindle
why do we need an in biome shot
heady gulch
im wondering the same thing as well as why its there. having a biome shot doesnt really hurt and can show its size compared to other things in the environment around it.
agile spindle
im pretty sure having the inside pictures shows off its size just fine
what we do need is a pic with modules attached
formal trellis
im on it
agile spindle
no
heady gulch
are the modules in game and can i clear out that last photo?
heady gulch
got it
agile spindle
yes several modules are available
cinder kestrel
https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Subnautica:_Below_Zero:Guidelines#Pictures_and_Galleries
It does not say that the in-biome image is not allowed.
Unless I missed a part of the rules.
heady gulch
I cant run BZ in full graphics because it takes a heavy toll on my pc. what filters should usually be set for taking photos of the environment and biomes?
Well if your unsure put the photos here and let the wiki keepers have a look at it.
cinder kestrel
Why is it bad?
agile spindle
the guidelines aren't comprehensive
cinder kestrel
the guidelines aren't comprehensive
How about we fix that?
agile spindle
@heady gulch the guidelines actually say "highest resolution you can"
cinder kestrel
"Taken pictures MUST be on the highest graphics setting, or they will be removed. "
agile spindle
sls do you really want to list every little detail of "how we do things"
agile spindle
oh it mightve said that before then my bad
heady gulch
yeah because one of us will go after said person for not living up to them
agile spindle
okay then go ahead sls/xeno
formal trellis
btw should i get a biome shot with the modules or just a model shot
agile spindle
no biome shots
formal trellis
ok
agile spindle
get a void picture
cinder kestrel
At least add a rule saying "no biome shots."
agile spindle
you're missing the point
cinder kestrel
Or elaborate on that, as the case may be.
agile spindle
it says pictures must be relevant
it being in a biome is not relevant
if it being in a biome WAS relevant, we would want one
E.G. prawn suit must be a biome pic
well not must be, but we'd need one at least
cinder kestrel
Why at least one?
agile spindle
idk
im not an expert on exactly what every page needs
im just saying there are always exceptions to every rule and there's no reason to be specific when we'd just put "there are exceptions" for every single rule
heady gulch
because the prawn is a groundbased vehicle.
cinder kestrel
I said it wasnt needed```
I think you meant the other way around—or am I still just confused?you are still confused clearly
Putting in biome pics on vehicles as a general rule is ALLOWED
putting in biome pics on the sea truck page is not NEEDED
cinder kestrel
Am I living in the world where the definitions of "allowed" and "needed" are switched?
If it is not needed, then it can still be there. If it is not allowed, them it cannot.
agile spindle
There's no rule that says it is not allowed for it to be posted
cinder kestrel
But apparently, I am wrong on that second half.
agile spindle
so if it is needed, it can be posted
for the sea truck, it is not needed, and therefore will be deleted
cinder kestrel
So we only want images we need, and no extra?
agile spindle
yes
agile spindle
center it more
agile spindle
and take it parallel imo
ehhh actually that one is fine
just remember to name it and put a caption
agile spindle
yep
formal trellis
alright cool
anything else that u know needs updating or should i just go find stuff on my own
formal trellis
okay thanks
sage zinc
uhhh
wet sand
what
sage zinc
then why not make a new category
formal trellis
@agile spindle i cant add pics to the rocket island page, but i got one of the dock that isnt added yet
agile spindle
i unprotected so add away
formal trellis
okay thanks
fluid lagoon
we don't need that pic on the wiki
not when the next experimental update is going to have an updated version of it
formal trellis
oh ok
agile spindle
is it harmful to have the picture there
agile spindle
does he have the picture already?
formal trellis
yeah it can be removed once the dock is updated and replaced with a new pic
agile spindle
just replace the picture later vee
fluid lagoon
i'm gonna undo it
agile spindle
You're gonna waste your own time undoing something because it will have to be replaced in the future?
fluid lagoon
yes
fluid lagoon
because apparently nobody can be patient
fluid lagoon
but for what purpose
agile spindle
so there's a picture of the dock there now
fluid lagoon
that will become completely irrelevant in a matter of hours
agile spindle
then when it changes, you can update it
formal trellis
then i will replace it in a few hours
agile spindle
i really dont see the dilemma here
formal trellis
when the new dock is added ill replace the pic
until then there is no harm in it being on the page
ok well vee
ill just add it when the new version comes out ok?
agile spindle
vee are you kidding me
cinder kestrel
I agree with tueman in this.
It is slightly comparable to how we add data bank entries before we know they are finalized for 1.0.
fluid lagoon
if it was weeks away i wouldn't care
agile spindle
you shouldnt care at all
paper flare
wait so you guys are arguing whether to delete an image then upload new one a few hours later or simply replace it
agile spindle
it doesnt make more work for you in any way vee
except that you're taking an interesting in being a pain in the ass about it
@late island back me up here
paper flare
I'll back you if it matters
formal trellis
rip dock picture for the 2nd time
cinder kestrel
really makes zero sense
Ha . . . ha . . . ha.
sage zinc
it's making below zero sense
cinder kestrel
just keep undoing her undos
What did we say about edit warring?
paper flare
idk
agile spindle
I'd rather not continuously undo the edit
paper flare
what did you say
cinder kestrel
We said nothing in the rulesto not to.
agile spindle
makes more work for both of us
paper flare
alright do whatever
formal trellis
permission to undo the previous undo of the previous undo of the previous undo
agile spindle
I'd rather @fluid lagoon stop being a child and just let it be
paper flare
she never admits her defeat so expect her to never stop
cinder kestrel
Should I link to #sn-discord-rules , or just stay out of this?
paper flare
you already did so
cinder kestrel
Eh . . . eh.
paper flare
no point now
formal trellis
what
paper flare
what
agile spindle
we arent sure exactly when
paper flare
so why even delete it lmao
formal trellis
^
paper flare
vee just stop
agile spindle
because vee is addicted to being right and if anything challenges that she has to act disagreeably
paper flare
true
fluid lagoon
my side was that it shouldn't have been uploaded in the first place
and now i'm sticking to it
formal trellis
you could just agree with the right person and be right too
paper flare
wh
cinder kestrel
just keep undoing her undos
she never admits her defeat so expect her to never stop
And now
vee just stop
agile spindle
He took the picture before he knew the dock was being updated
agile spindle
We HAVE the picture, why not upload it?
formal trellis
agreed
cinder kestrel
Because I find it rather unnecessary to reiterate the same complaint thrice before vee comes back.
fluid lagoon
because there's going to be a new version very soon
agile spindle
who cares
paper flare
we don't know how soon
formal trellis
in a few hours when god knows when
paper flare
why not replace it
agile spindle
we have the picture, it's there, it's on the wiki
paper flare
exactly
agile spindle
in a few hours we can replace it
formal trellis
yeah
agile spindle
no skin off our back
formal trellis
ill personally stay up until the update is pushed to replace it
fluid lagoon
you made more work for yourselves
cinder kestrel
They are fine./
paper flare
and so are you
agile spindle
No one made more work except you...
paper flare
so just stop this now
formal trellis
it took me about 16 seconds to upload that picture to the wiki
paper flare
it's really ridiculous
late island
What do you want me to back you up on?
cinder kestrel
no skin off our back
Wait, you are a vertebrate? Called it.
(Gets back on track)
Back up tueman that the image should be uploaded.
agile spindle
so atomik took a picture of the dock, he uploaded it to the wiki
fluid lagoon
he uploaded it to the wiki after it had already started
agile spindle
vee informs him that it'll be updated in a few hours
paper flare
after what started
agile spindle
we post the picture anyway, whatever we can just replace it later
fluid lagoon
the argument
agile spindle
Vee insists on the picture not being on the page
paper flare
wha
fluid lagoon
i had already said it was going to be updated
late island
Well it is pointless, but at least it wasn't inaccurate for the time unlike those fogless Sea Monkey nest images
formal trellis
in a few hours
cinder kestrel
I finally realized I have no idea which page/image we are discussing.
paper flare
I'm on tue's side for this one for once
paper flare
yes
fluid lagoon
no
late island
I'll just say the adding the image this close is pointless
paper flare
yes
agile spindle
It's ALREADY there dino
late island
but it's not the worst thing that they could do
agile spindle
We can just leave it there and change it later
agile spindle
That's literally all we want
formal trellis
i can just delete the entire page to get rid of the issue update it with a new dock in a few hours
agile spindle
cuno you do start arguments
cursive vigil
Hi cuno!
cinder kestrel
i can just delete the entire page to get rid of the issue update it with a new dock in a few hours
You seem to be lacking a Content Moderator role. Sorry.
formal trellis
it was a joke but ok
cinder kestrel
and vee says I start arguments
tueman thought you were denying what vee said.
paper flare
yes
cinder kestrel
But apparently, you were not.
late island
So basically I feel adding a new image that close to it being updated is dumb but it's not a bad thing necessarily
formal trellis
the image is already there
paper flare
that's not the argument
late island
then what's the argument
agile spindle
Atomik took the photo before he knew that it was being updated
I figured, screw it, we have the picture, just add it to the page
paper flare
it's whether to take it down, wait a few hours, then upload a new one or just simply replace it
agile spindle
Vee seemed to think adding the picture made a ton of work for us
fluid lagoon
what
paper flare
and the latter is way easier
agile spindle
So she took it in her hands to waste a bit of time undoing the edit and starting an argument
late island
Okay when was the image uploaded
paper flare
just like a few minutes ago I think
late island
then my point still stands
cinder kestrel
What image?
paper flare
why even delete it
formal trellis
can i add a pic of the research base in the lily pads to the lily pad page? its not there already
late island
I wasn't talking about that part
cinder kestrel
This i--wait, tueman beat me to it.
cinder kestrel
No, this is what we do. I think.
agile spindle
dino you're like the only person she listens to
paper flare
vee, what is the big deal here?!
formal trellis
im just gonna go take a picture of the lily pad research base instead
agile spindle
Can you tell her that what she's doing right now is ridiculously pointless
paper flare
why even?!
late island
Tueman has entered salty dad mode
formal trellis
i dont blame tueman
late island
I think what both of you are doing is pointless
agile spindle
if you were on her side i would back off
late island
The wiki didn't need the image, and there was no reason to upload it
agile spindle
But it was already uploaded
late island
but the existence of the image in this hour or so before the update isn't the worst thing either
fluid lagoon
no it wasn't
paper flare
the point is it was uploaded
late island
Vee said not to first though
paper flare
what's done is done
fluid lagoon
the image was uploaded after i said not to
paper flare
but he didn't see that
wet sand
hmm
agile spindle
So why did you bother deleting it
paper flare
ching join us
formal trellis
is there a console command for killing a fauna thats close to me
wet sand
no cuno
paper flare
vee is being irrational
formal trellis
its ruining my picture :(
paper flare
fool
agile spindle
instagib and whack it
late island
I wouldn't remove something for a wiki picture
I try to have it as natural looking as possible
paper flare
whatever, I will observe the higher beings discuss it and occasionally intervene
goodbye
agile spindle
Fine, it was pointless to upload the picture
cinder kestrel
Farewell.
formal trellis
hows this for the lily pad page?
formal trellis
oh ok
late island
Was referring to the whole killing something for the pic there
paper flare
never lose
late island
not the previous argument
agile spindle
yes i know
formal trellis
how do i add a link to a caption?
agile spindle
a what
cinder kestrel
image.png|[[Article|Description]]
agile spindle
same way you link in normal text
cinder kestrel
For the last four weeks:
late island
why did you reupload bip's image
in a lower resolution
just link to the same image
agile spindle
sls what is that number even
cinder kestrel
So, five people probably missed out on the image in just that half hour.
Page views.
agile spindle
whats your point
cinder kestrel
We should give viewers as much good content as we can give them, so having the image on the wiki is good.
Eh, sounds inspirational enough.
paper flare
that it was pointless to start the argument?
formal trellis
how can i link bip's photo
paper flare
yes I agree with my statement
agile spindle
lets drop it
cinder kestrel
Or you can view it as--or we can drop it.
cursive vigil
how is my favorite cuno doing
cinder kestrel
But why would we ever drop the pengling?
paper flare
why
late island
You just link to his image
paper flare
no point
cinder kestrel
Monstrous.
Eh, the joke was sort-of-ish wiki-related
formal trellis
theres a picture for green table coral so why not do a gel sack
late island
your settings are at the highest quality right atomic?
paper flare
wait for Wiki pictures settings have to be max
late island
yes
formal trellis
yes they are
late island
which pictures
cinder kestrel
I know I interpreted it wrong. I crossed out the right interpretation.
Unless I misinterpreted even that.
paper flare
at 800x500 resolution
cursive vigil
they should name this "Keepers of the Books"
formal trellis
all of my pictures are max graphics at 1920x1080
cursive vigil
or "Keepers of secrets"
agile spindle
which pictures cuno