i really dont feel like explaining it for the fourth time just answer the poll
#📚wiki-discussion
agile spindle
paper flare
I did
fluid lagoon
separate gang
separate gang
paper flare
yes
agile spindle
Look I'm on the losing side of both debates apparently so I'd appreciate it if you didn't meme or make it personal vee
fluid lagoon
separate gang
separate gang
wet sand
imo leave separate
cinder kestrel
i thought it was established that jokes were banned
Hey, we were discussing something from the wiki.
summer kindle
Thanks
agile spindle
@summer kindle Biome ID in the infoboxes is the biome command ID for that biome
not the F1 display
summer kindle
Ok
cinder kestrel
And:
separate gang```
```separate gang
separate gang```
```2) Be respectful and don't disrespect others ```nope
cinder kestrel
Then again, I practically never use the command to teleport, so . . .
agile spindle
Do you have BZ sls?
Also I don't think https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Plenty is a character
I think the card meant they needed plenty of voice actors
agile spindle
Or maxim was one of the plenty of VAs
but we already have a page for maxim so I'ma delete that one
summer kindle
Are there actually Peepers in the Lava Lakes
I don't recall that ever being a thing
agile spindle
not that ive seen
summer kindle
it was probably just someone counting the PCF as Lava Lakes again I guess
summer kindle
Russian wiki is in a state
they've got this as a Below Zero addition
and they think the model is official
frail dragon
Has anyone double checked the sparse arctic spawns
agile spindle
and this
turn fog on and go down there though, it's a seriously cool looking place
frail dragon
The fog down there is awful
summer kindle
they haven't added the bulbs yet
agile spindle
I gotta go like 4 minutes ago lol
frail dragon
What bulbs?
agile spindle
no time to upload
fluid lagoon
where is the big boy bridge
frail dragon
Can we just have a page for all unnamed flora
fluid lagoon
we demand to see the big boy bridge
frail dragon
It’s gonna get confusing
agile spindle
they're different plants tho
frail dragon
I feel like we have a lot of unnamed flora and coral but idk
agile spindle
We'll have individual pages for them eventually
If we combine them now we'll have to re-separate them again later
hallow basalt
I put the peepers on that page. They were swimming in the Lava Lakes. I could check again
agile spindle
do that, seems far fetched for them to be there
hallow basalt
I saw at least 5 just swimming around far away from PCF
summer kindle
they might clip out of the PCF or something
hallow basalt
But also a big chunk of ILZ has the grassy plateaus biome ID so
agile spindle
they’d have to swim pretty far tho
@late island should we merge twisty caves with the other two as well?
hallow basalt
summer kindle
somehow I knew this would be the end result anyway
agile spindle
what
summer kindle
they may as well retcon the Spike Trap as fauna
agile spindle
i can think of one
and imo they should’ve just called it a flora to not confuse people
fluid lagoon
how would that confuse people
summer kindle
summer kindle
agile spindle
yes i know they exist bip
i’m just saying they already threw accuracy out the window
summer kindle
well also every coral species in the game is immobile fauna
summer kindle
whatever, thermal lily and spike trap really just seem much more animal-like than plant-like
but hey ALIEN
agile spindle
why do we have a page for bloom plankton even tho they are cut content?
summer kindle
I was just moving it as you said that
agile spindle
o nice lol
frail dragon
Ok why are we separating the twisty bridges pages
It’s kinda just one large biome split into mini biomes kinda idk maybe
It’s up to the wiki keepers though
agile spindle
we already had a lengthy discussion
and i definitely wouldn’t call them mini biomes
summer kindle
so Sector Zero is referred to as Zero Sector everywhere
except the title of one data bank entry
Briefing - Sector Zero
VESPER MISSION OVERVIEW - Week 26
Personnel on 4546B: 37
Personnel on Vesper: 96
RESEARCH SECTOR ZERO
Personnel: 1 Active (R. Goodall); 1 MIA (J. Jeffreys)
ACTIVE MISSIONS IN YOUR SECTOR
Search & Rescue: J. Jeffreys
- Vesper's orbital sensors are scanning for missing crew
- Divesuit found abandoned near Cargo Rocket, Zero Sector
- GPS analysis indicates a trajectory leading towards deep sea station Cappa (150m depth)
- Find your colleague!
Leviathan Genetic Research Program
- Genetic samples from deceased leviathan research specimen are requested
- Due to recent ice flow its position is unknown
- Depth 150m
Data Retrieval: Research Base Omega
- Omega base was abandoned weeks ago due to increased local threat levels
- Alien research data at the base may prove vital to our efforts
- <100m depth
It's referred to as Research Sector Zero in the title of this and then as Zero Sector everywhere else
agile spindle
i like sector zero better
if they refer to it as both i think we can choose which one we use
summer kindle
It's predominantly Zero Sector
agile spindle
yea but that sounds odd
summer kindle
I prefer Sector Zero too anyway so I'll just leave it
wait what
I never even realised the Puncher data bank entry said they punched at near the speed of sound
that's a little bit ridiculous, considering they do 10 damage
agile spindle
well you know who to blame
summer kindle
The peacock mantis shrimp, whose punch is one of the fastest movements of all animals punches at around 50 miles per hour
you mean to tell me that the Rock Puncher is punching at almost 767 miles per hour
summer kindle
I am pretty sure it would literally just rip its own arm off if it moved at that speed
agile spindle
thats a funny image
summer kindle
there's also the fact that the Rock Puncher clearly doesn't have the necessary equipment to even get close to that speed
the mantis shrimp has a special sort of notch that it hooks its arm into to even build up enough tension for a 50mph punch
and the Rock Puncher is just going around throwing around 700mph+ punchers willy nilly
agile spindle
the animation of it punching looks like a human punch speed tbh
summer kindle
agile spindle
whats that
summer kindle
agile spindle
on the top right?
agile spindle
are they in game? I didnt see any
agile spindle
are they named?
summer kindle
bulb
summer kindle
no they don't look like they'd ever be scannable
agile spindle
pretty sure we've been over the fact that that hasnt stopped us in the past
agile spindle
what thing
summer kindle
summer kindle
It's called Hivemind in the files
agile spindle
whoa
summer kindle
I don't know if it actually has anything to do with the game or it's just there
agile spindle
Btw the deep twisty bridges plant is called "Tentacle Plant" in the files
dunno if thats worth a rename
summer kindle
Yeah we may as well
summer kindle
what's the other one called?
agile spindle
what one
summer kindle
the one that looks very similar in the STB and TB
agile spindle
the fat pink one?
summer kindle
yeah
agile spindle
twistybridges plant large
agile spindle
this one is called "cliff plant"
fluid lagoon
can somebody update the lilypad islands page
agile spindle
with what
fluid lagoon
all the garbage that's on this single fallen lilypad
agile spindle
can someone do the description for the tentacle plant
I really suck at describing things
On our Biomes page the third column is Harvesting Nodes
Should that be Resources?
summer kindle
I’m adding them though
agile spindle
oh gotcha
While you're add it @summer kindle , Deep Twisty seems more like a cave biome
summer kindle
Maybe?
I don’t really see it that way as it isn’t really sealed over
It’s open topped
agile spindle
I just added those
didn't I?
It also has silver outcrops
Yeah I already added them, refresh the page
agile spindle
i can confirm gold and silver
lemme look for lead
it also has salt
and limestone outcrops
and quartz
summer kindle
And lead?
agile spindle
i dont see any lead
summer kindle
Ok
Good resource area
If it weren’t for oxygen
Who’s putting gold outcrop and silver outcrop in the resources tab
Put their drops, not the outcrop
summer kindle
Because all of them also drop titanium
And that’s missing
do we remove fragments from resources or not
some pages have their frags listed others do not
agile spindle
I don't like them being mixed in with resources
if anything they should have their own tab
summer kindle
That works fine for me
agile spindle
So on the SN map we have a section for Caves and a section for Biomes, which is entrances to large caves
Which one does arctic kelp caves go under
actually that's a no brainer
yeah nvm
summer kindle
I have no idea what that was about but I'm glad you sorted it out
wooden glade
Can I ask a question about the flora in the two different known sectors of 4546B ? In terms of lore?
agile spindle
Have you asked #subnautica-chat or #below-zero-chat first?
wooden glade
I haven't , I thought they were more for playtesting rather than lore . Apologies :3
agile spindle
Should we have a transparency for the Seatruck?
summer kindle
Yes
hallow basalt
is there any testing or sandbox page on the subnautica wiki?
cinder kestrel
As far as I know, that is the only one.
hallow basalt
hmm
alright
cuz I'm almost done adding the alien arch caches info to the alien arch page
i think it looks ok
hallow basalt
i only put the parts i changed on the sandbox but here it is: https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/User:IvanDoomy/Sandbox
agile spindle
Oh we voted not to merge
I guess if you have a mockup we can have everyone look at it though
frail dragon
Can someone add the Garryfish audio to the Subnautica Wiki
It sounds epic
hallow basalt
i guess
agile spindle
<@&192900629797142528> I know we voted not to merge but Ivan went ahead an made a mockup anyway, so take a look https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/User:IvanDoomy/Sandbox
hallow basalt
can you even activate the arch in the PCF aquarium while it's covered in sand?
agile spindle
no
fierce imp
that's an ancient photo from experimental mode
late island
Let's just leave it separate.
agile spindle
I'm still adhering to the results of the vote
So unless anyone changes their mind we'll just leave it as is
frail dragon
Tbh the alien arch thing doesn’t have to be separate
fallow portal
hallow basalt
._.
agile spindle
@fallow portal https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd6NWicklt-GZ5UqaeU_z6z_bkuw8lGsHiIyBlHP11xNzCpOQ/viewform
and stop posting memes in here
agile spindle
So we have a page for Almanac Bases.
We have a page for Almanac Caches.
We do not have a page for Alterra bases.
I would like to make a page for Alterra bases.
Should said page go on the Alterra Corporation page or be its own page?
fierce imp
own page
fierce imp
she's not alterra though
agile spindle
Yes
I would make a new page for "independent" bases
BUT
actually
we have her base + 3 of her tech sites
so I'll just make a page for independents as well
@late island opinion on the above?
frail dragon
Tech sites?
agile spindle
We already have a page for Alterra Bases, making me tonight's biggest loser
tech site are the foundations with cargo crates on them
frail dragon
Ok
agile spindle
In addition to overhauling the Alterra Bases page and making the Independent Bases page (I'll think of a better name) I'd like to make a "Structures" page for the kind of category-type system we have going
I'll also overhaul the Almanac Bases
I'd like all four to have tables
opinions?
stuck pawn
all four? aren't there three?
stuck pawn
it might work out better in that case
severe locust
Independent bases? Like player made ones?
stuck pawn
Marguerit's bases
agile spindle
Like Marguerit's bases
severe locust
Oh so like independent contractor bases
stuck pawn
no
agile spindle
So like people that arent aliens and arent alterra
stuck pawn
Marguerit's out for herself now so she isn't aligned with anyone
severe locust
Ok so like rogue bases
agile spindle
sure
stuck pawn
why not just give them the category of "Marguerit's bases" or something
independent bases is bad
agile spindle
I want to encompass any other bases we might get
severe locust
"Rogue contractor bases" has a good ring to it.
stuck pawn
besides almanac and alterra?
stuck pawn
marguerit isn't a contractor
fierce imp
she's a degasi survivor
stuck pawn
robin's the contractor
severe locust
Ah haven't gotten that far so sorry didn't know.
agile spindle
Okay I'm going to go ahead with the changes
stuck pawn
did you ask anyone else
agile spindle
I pinged dino
and I know he saw it but he didn't respond
vivi said okay
you said okay
i think that's enough support
stuck pawn
i'm proud of you tueman
agile spindle
yes
agile spindle
How's the name "Rogue Bases" sound?
severe locust
Like it.
agile spindle
@late island Rogue Bases? or something different?
late island
Just call the Marge structures Marge structures.
agile spindle
I want to future proof it in case there's more places that arent alterra or almanac
quaint kite
wait on the favro it says 1.0 release is in october 31, is it an exact time?
agile spindle
no
severe locust
Estimated time, subject to change.
cyan mulch
how to get snowfox sea truck and mobile docks in survival? thanks in advance
agile spindle
heady gulch
In game they arent
spiral light
Are the any coordinates available on the wiki for Below Zero? Particularly areas of interest like abandoned bases or precursor bases.
agile spindle
yea we have a map page, look in the navigation bar
spiral light
Thank you so much! Overlooked that
agile spindle
they’re doing work on the moon pool which makes me think it might be in the game
should we add a page?
heady gulch
Not yet.
If they are going to change it up a lot I think we should wait until we have some official images of a new moonpool before making a page on it
summer kindle
Why does that make a difference
agile spindle
would take like a year to do everything
i mean i can do it when i get home if no one else does
summer kindle
I was part way through doing it on my phone but I forgot all the interior shots
heady gulch
Well. I’m saying in the case they make changes to the moonpool.
https://sketchfab.com/models/dc984bbcb4574c19aa12a9d9b932fd98?ref=related oh also this isn’t on the squidshark page.
summer kindle
@agile spindle Do the truck upgrades not have recipes yet?
cursive vigil
squid shark is horrifying
pseudo oyster
The important question is what it's mucous tastes like
agile spindle
the important questions is why people don’t read the damn channel name
frail dragon
There’s nothing that says they can’t talk about stuff like that here
Have a pinned message or edit description? Not like anyone’s going to read it though
cinder kestrel
They do read when we tell them to read.
Definitely what you meant.
Anyway, how is the wiki going?
cinder kestrel
The only major problems are the ones we cannot deal with--that is good.
agile spindle
like what?
cinder kestrel
Videos.
agile spindle
well I think we can ask to put our own videos up
Have we tried asking to have them taken down even?
cinder kestrel
Pretty sure.
The videos take away 30% of the other ads (probably accurate), and they do increase the number of viewers we get.
If we could remove the videos and somehow still gain those extra viewers, we could be most helpful.
Remove, or fix, whichever seemingly impossible thing we can cause to happen.
agile spindle
I just fear for the day it gets on the Below Zero wiki
agile spindle
a terrifying necessity
summer kindle
Before the videos I always used to get adverts for Muslim dating sites on wikia though
So I guess that’s one positive
I don’t know why it gave me those ads
agile spindle
int....erest....ing?
fluid lagoon
i started getting ads for muslim dating sites after bippity complained about getting ads for muslim dating sites
agile spindle
Am I gonna get muslim dating site ads
summer kindle
Now everyone that reads this will too
agile spindle
sike ublock origins to the rescue
sleek furnace
the wiki's sunbeam audio is outdated i think
for the arrival when player is present
sleek furnace
maybe i'm remembering wrong
agile spindle
Check it in game before you come to us with a problem
hallow basalt
it's the same
agile spindle
@cinder kestrel Can you make it so the "gotoid" section of the Craftable and Biome templates link to the goto command on the "Console Commands" page? Exactly like the debug spawn thing
might as well do the auto bullet-points as well
Actually, just the Biome template, and do it for the Biome entry as well on that template
cinder kestrel
Both wikis?
cinder kestrel
Done.
agile spindle
thanks
Oops the biomes link should be under "id" not under "biomes" in the template
thats my bad
hallow basalt
i think the data downloads page needs a clean-up
i haven't been able to come across certain entries in my whole playthrough
agile spindle
so clean it up
hallow basalt
sweep sweep
some aren't even in their right sections
should i make a new section for those that are only obtainable from cheats/ency all command?
agile spindle
sure
hallow basalt
aight
hallow basalt
this page is gonna make me suffer
agile spindle
you're just copy and pasting arent you
agile spindle
copy pasting really isnt that exhausting
hallow basalt
is there an easy way to copy-paste lines of text found in the game?
or do i have to do it by hand
agile spindle
Are they not all already on the data downloads page?
hallow basalt
just asking in case i notice something off
agile spindle
it should all be there
lemme find the script tho
if you can find something to open this legibly then there you go
agile spindle
Just change the page to what is correct
I don't know the SN PDAs well enough to verify anything
hallow basalt
i'll just leave that pic here in case anyone knows
agile spindle
We should just reuse the sandstone/shale outcrop transparencies for gold/silver outcrops
stuck pawn
less work that way
agile spindle
A lot of our Craftable templates have |crafting in them with the full recipe except I guess the template doesnt actually take that information
Should I just get rid of it whenever I see it? it would probably not fit anyway
agile spindle
no ask sls if you want to do it all at once
stuck pawn
i can just use massedit
agile spindle
what is that
agile spindle
it's not a simple replacement though
you're deleting a section of an infobox which is wildly different from page to page
stuck pawn
could always do it manually
agile spindle
but why bother when we have slsbot
stuck pawn
i need to fuel my ego+ slsbot isn't around
agile spindle
sls remains offline most of the time if you ping him he might show up
stuck pawn
sls comes when he is needed
sixth sense
agile spindle
@cinder kestrel you are needed
hallow basalt
praise the sun
cinder kestrel
What am I needed for?
agile spindle
A lot of Craftable templates have a |crafting= something in them, but that argument isnt used so we want to just delete it everywhere
cinder kestrel
On it.,
faint lily
Hey um question
Since the wiki is supposed to be in different languages
Do you have any French contributors yet ?
cinder kestrel
We do not care about the other languages; other language wikis are on their own, separate from the English stuff.
faint lily
Oh
Thought this was all gathered in one place
Guess I'll have to edit the french one then
agile spindle
I mean we don't "not care" about them, we just don't have the manpower to maintain multiple languages
cinder kestrel
The going is slow with the bot, at 8-10 pages per minute. I have 86 left.
Here is the list of articles, if you wish to help me out; just look for "|crafting" in the article.
Start at the bottom.
agile spindle
sls you are a crazy couk
cinder kestrel
Fine: this is probably the actual list. I have to double-check, though.
Okay, it is.
A couple minutes out-of-date, but still otherwise accurate and legitimate.
agile spindle
Did you think we meant he was bot lol
fierce imp
i mean he does sound like a robot sometimes
cinder kestrel
"They say I rap like a robot."
hallow basalt
i thought there was a bot named that after him for some reason
that was far-fetched tho
agile spindle
There's SLScool and SLSbot
hallow basalt
oh cool
agile spindle
darn got me again sls
agile spindle
thanks
hallow basalt
das a very efficient bot
agile spindle
sure is
hallow basalt
cool bot
cinder kestrel
Most tasks I am given are simple, but this one could not be automated.
But the software gave me a list of the articles needing change in mere seconds, and I could browse through them quickly.
I could browse through them quickly
Think: the speed of loading text versus the speed of loading all the HTML on an internet browser.
Loading, downloading, eh.
hallow basalt
oof
severe locust
Not sure if real bot or someone pretending to be said bot 
cinder kestrel
A while ago, I replaced |item id and |spawn id with |debugspawn. I am now doing to check again, but also in instances with an underscore instead of a space.
cinder kestrel
That was a lot quicker to do--a lot fewer articles, and it was easy to automatically change all--5 articles?
agile spindle
except some of the articles you "fixed" now have two |debugspawn= in the infobox
onyx ocean
can i ask a you guys somthing
agile spindle
is it a wiki related question
cinder kestrel
Oh, well.
onyx ocean
i want to update the wiki
cinder kestrel
Does the wiki not specify?
onyx ocean
so can i have some help
agile spindle
the wiki is updated
onyx ocean
no
onyx ocean
dosent tell me if its in the game yet or and if its accessible
that should be info in the early stages of the game
stuck pawn
if it wasn't in game there wouldn't be screenshots
agile spindle
Why would we have in-game pictures of it if it isn't in game
onyx ocean
they could be from devs
agile spindle
developer screenshots are always labelled as such
stuck pawn
they're from us
cinder kestrel
Those images are from developers, https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Deep_Twisty_Bridges#In-game are from us.
fierce imp
it's literally the only sentence on the page
stuck pawn
deep twisty bridges
fierce imp
that tells you
hallow basalt
words are hard
agile spindle
The Deep Twisty Bridges is a biome located in a deep trench at the very bottom of the Twisty Bridges.
onyx ocean
coords i mena
agile spindle
it's the only sentence on the page
onyx ocean
mean
cinder kestrel
Do we normally have coordinates for biomes?
onyx ocean
yeah
agile spindle
good reminder
onyx ocean
its kinda unhelpful for someone to say the entrace to a cave is near water
cause it kinda feels like that
severe locust
cinder kestrel
That really helps, tomless.
agile spindle
@onyx ocean the entrances cover the bottom of the trench
stuck pawn
thanks sls i try
agile spindle
I think they're pretty easy to find, but I will add them to the map page
agile spindle
No, cave biomes have too many entrances
the infobox would be too long and spamming coords on a page is ugly
agile spindle
A way to integrate the map into all biome pages would be useful, though
cinder kestrel
Unless the page has apping Subnautic in the title.
onyx ocean
you could but it in a subsection
hallow basalt
hmm
stuck pawn
wasn't that on the base game wiki a while back? i think yayie added them
onyx ocean
like a place filled with biome and cave coords
stuck pawn
they got removed but they were there
hallow basalt
Mapping Subnautica page
agile spindle
Actually it's called Sector Zero Map
cinder kestrel
onyx ocean
hmmmm they should have links to them in all biome padges
onyx ocean
makes life easyer
hallow basalt
cinder kestrel
Not sure how to do links?
agile spindle
Maybe a small link under the title of the infobox?
not sure how to make it look nice
cinder kestrel
Do we have anything in the infobox already that refers to location?
hallow basalt
_>
cinder kestrel
Check the channel description.
agile spindle
read the channel name
fluid lagoon
agile spindle
and take a wild guess
onyx ocean
im pretty happy i ended up being kinda helpful
fluid lagoon
the society of orange and the one purple frowns upon your shenanigans
cinder kestrel
Alright, tueman, I have my wild guess.
agile spindle
they dont have wild written on them hello
hallow basalt
do you have a license for that
cinder kestrel
(Still has Wiki Keeper rule)
Yay, that was not too terrible of a joke.
I bought a copy of the game Uno.
Does that count as a license?
hallow basalt
i think so ya
fluid lagoon
anyway here's a breakdown for what this room is:
it's a cleverbot-esque chatroom except the bot is named SLS instead
cinder kestrel
Does that count?
stuck pawn
get on the ground
cinder kestrel
My feet are already on the ground.
hallow basalt
you're grounded
cinder kestrel
And now they are not.
stuck pawn
SLS levitating to escape the FBI
cinder kestrel
I am in a chairin Marching Band.
onyx ocean
breaking newsthe wiki says the deep twistys arent in the game yet if you go on the boimes padge
cinder kestrel
When I glide step, I (ideally) look like my torso is seamlessly moving.
severe locust
FBI? More like NSA
stuck pawn
boimes
onyx ocean
biomes
stuck pawn
deep twisty is on the biomes page?
fierce imp
yes
fierce imp
sls please
stuck pawn
yes i know
i was asking why jack said it wasn't
hallow basalt
seinfeld theme starts playing
agile spindle
imo it should be a cave biome
onyx ocean
no it isnt
cinder kestrel
I should probably go: it is 3:53am.
agile spindle
its there
cinder kestrel
3:53am in England, where they do not often use "a.m." I think.
stuck pawn
agile spindle
with what
onyx ocean
its not tba
agile spindle
@cinder kestrel can you wake back up
stuck pawn
let sls sleep
agile spindle
i need him
hallow basalt
wait until he wakes up
cinder kestrel
Why would I be asleep, though?
severe locust
because it's just one of those things humans need, to my understanding.
cinder kestrel
But behold: my wonderful underlining skills.
And you all know my Time Zone, anyways.
severe locust
I don't, pointless information to me.
cinder kestrel
It has been there for more than twenty months.
First on http://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/User:SLScool, then http://minecraft.wikia.com/wiki/User:SLScool, then [insert other stuff here], then https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/User:SLScool
Et cetera.
severe locust
That's nice.
cinder kestrel
@agile spindle I perceive your summons, and I a--and there you are.
cinder kestrel
Yes, I can. You are intelligent, it seems.
agile spindle
thanks i think
cinder kestrel
you can sleep```
(Closes AutoWikiBrowser)
Eh, I was perfectly read to anyways.You thank me, and then you continue to prove your intelligence by stating you are capable of thought.
agile spindle
its one of my talents
severe locust
Question is are humans capable of thought?
cinder kestrel
I am not a neuroscientist.
heady gulch
Irrelevant
tardy cypress
@severe locust mabey?
agile spindle
<@&192900629797142528> My two propositions for the morning:
https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/User:Tueman/Test Add a link to the map on every biome page, like in the example but maybe better looking. I feel an icon might be hard to understand for newer folks so maybe something more obvious as well.
https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/User:Tueman/Test2 Part of my initiative to add all PDA entry sources, because currently people don't know how to get the entries we put on the databank, and on top of that I see no reason to only have certain data entries there anyway.
Both changes could be ported over to SN wiki as well.
hallow basalt
i can already tell you the first proposition will be confusing cuz I couldn't even find the link
i'm blind btw
hallow basalt
joke obviously
agile spindle
well yeah I thought it is too hard to see
I don't want another top-of-page bar cause too many and it's ugly
hallow basalt
Unless you make it super obvious like "HERE LINK TO MAP"
agile spindle
I tried it with a link under the title but it added to much padding and looked super ugly
hallow basalt
maybe put it as a link in the coords?
agile spindle
we don't put coords on biomes pages
agile spindle
but where
hallow basalt
instead of the link image
agile spindle
Looks ugly when I tried it before
pastel perch
hallow basalt
maybe create a template for it?
agile spindle
there I updated it
hallow basalt
hmm it does look kinda ugly
agile spindle
I was thinking of a small box, like a quarter page long but idk where it could go
it can't go under the infobox because we already have infoboxes that are too long
Maybe wrap text at the top of the page, left side just under the bars?
agile spindle
https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/User:Tueman/Test Ideally the text would wrap around it but for some reason it's not working
still that's the mockup I've got
runic dock
Ahem time to change Pengwing behavior to defensive
agile spindle
so change it
agile spindle
can i get feedback on this https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/User:Tueman/Test2
i want to start implementing it asap
agile spindle
@late island @heady gulch @stuck pawn anything for the example above?
agile spindle
and the name, it’d go on the databank page
heady gulch
I’m on mobile rn
agile spindle
which i would add all entries to
agile spindle
awesome
late island
@heady gulch
agile spindle
also i’m going to align the picture to the left
late island
What if you align the text to the center instead?
heady gulch
Erm, if this is for the entry to try to align everything how the pda does
agile spindle
which is?
btw i simplified the table format we had for those into a template, so it’s much easier to make on any page
green dome
cool
agile spindle
i could see the picture centered but i disagree about the source
stuck pawn
i'd move the source to underneath the encydesc personally, otherwise looks fine
agile spindle
https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/User:Tueman/Test2 centered picture and moved source down
stuck pawn
looks great now
hallow basalt
if the databank entry is only obtainable through console commands the source is gonna say it's command only right?
agile spindle
I'll probably have it say TBA for now
hallow basalt
well
if you're gonna make a databank page for the subnautica wiki you should put that there
agile spindle
would you be interested in doing that? while I do the BZ page
you know the SN PDAs better than I do anyway
agile spindle
kk lemme port the templates over real quick
hallow basalt
wait should I move data downloads to the databank page
agile spindle
@fierce imp do we have this image?
fierce imp
fierce imp
should be on the subnautica wiki
hallow basalt
i don't think it is
agile spindle
I don't see it anywhere
hallow basalt
yup there it is
agile spindle
On the SN wiki the entry picture for Interior Growbed is wrong, it uses the Exterior Growbed's picture
Do we have the interior growbed pda picture cause I can't find it
severe locust
Only decent image are found in a Google search
agile spindle
databank image
not in game screenshot
We're also missing the nuclear reactor picture
severe locust
Ok, if you don't have them by the time I get home in a few hours I will send them to you.
agile spindle
i fear you're not clear on what I'm talking about
severe locust
This right? And yes I know I just screenshotted a YouTube video to get it.
agile spindle
No we literally take the image straight from the game files
Any photoshop cutout is too low res
I'll dedicate time to finding them later
agile spindle
Looks like they nerfed the Sea Truck's speed
it was pretty fast before so not too surprising
hallow basalt
it seems the hatching enzymes databank entry has been updated
agile spindle
it was probably just written a long time ago
hallow basalt
i have 2 entries on my PDA
hatching enzymes and hatching enzymes old
It's different from the one on the page for hatching enzymes
the old one just reads STATIC
severe locust
im curious now how do you get the image from the game files?
agile spindle
You use a program to open the Assets files
agile spindle
UABE is the one most of us use
severe locust
interesting, should be fun to mess around with
agile spindle
managed to find the two missing entries
severe locust
interesting program, going to have to play with it for a while to get uset to finding stuff in it.
agile spindle
You can extract images by looking for "Texture2d" type files and pressing Plugins>Export as .png
severe locust
yeah i seen that, just got to comb thru the files for the ones you are missing.
agile spindle
i found them
severe locust
oh well
polar lodge
Does anyone have information on this red tablet? Nothing of it in the wiki.
(to get it type in console precursorkeys)
severe locust
sums it up pretty nice if you ask me.
sand patrol
When the next update will be released ?
polar lodge
should be every 4-5 weeks but there are small updates every so and so
glad plover
@polar lodge How did you even pickup that creature?
polar lodge
the first time i tried to pick it up it worked but it hurt. i dropped it and tried to pick it up agian and noticed that it was just hurting me. i remained persistant and sure enough, i picked it up left with a slither of health. try enough and eventually it will work.
frail dragon
This is #📚wiki-discussion btw
But anyway @polar lodge that’s an unused tablet for original Subnautica that would be found on the cut content page on the base game wiki
@sand patrol it should be released sometime before the end of February
summer kindle
@agile spindle So I've been thinking, we probably have enough information to make a page about the bridges
however, is that too many pages with Twisty Bridges in the name
agile spindle
I was about to say, how do we differentiate between the biome and the plant?
summer kindle
You could do Twisty Bridges (Flora species)
summer kindle
yeah an entry says
summer kindle
aight I'll do that in a minute
agile spindle
Also: there's a dialogue entry from the first time you pick up the builder, is that Act II or standard dialogue?
summer kindle
I have no idea
agile spindle
Redwort and Violet Beau have seeds that are acquirable in survival, do we add pages for them even though they're not plantable?
agile spindle
idk if farming is gonna be a thing in BZ
summer kindle
Pretty sure it will
agile spindle
But I don't think we should change that if it is
So I guess we just make another Seeds page
agile spindle
@summer kindle I made a {{Databank}} template to show databank entries more easily
I can make the source field optional as well if you prefer
summer kindle
I saw that template I just preferred the way the normal one looked
summer kindle
I was sure it was narrower
summer kindle
I prefer the wider one we normally use
agile spindle
I copied the table into the template bip
It's the same thing except I made it a bit smaller
severe locust
Got to say I don't know how you can stare at that program looking for those images for hours tried it last night and I thought I was going crazy there for a few minutes.
agile spindle
didnt take hours
you can sort it by name and type, and the pda entries are just the thing's name
severe locust
Well that's my first time using that program so it took me a few hours to figure that out
frail dragon
how did we find console commands before...?
did someone also look into the script for the original subnautica, or was it trial and error, or something else?
agile spindle
both
agile spindle
does it work?
frail dragon
idk
agile spindle
test it first
frail dragon
oh and also there's the nobubbles command that disables bubbles
like the player air bubbles
agile spindle
we probably tried both but they didnt work
frail dragon
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not sure if any work
agile spindle
most of those dont exist in the code
frail dragon
so there is a command that apparently lists commands called commands
i'm guessing it doesnt work
oh wait it only works in the unity editor
oh and maybe a command called magic
agile spindle
doesnt do anything
test it ingame before you mention it
I already went through all of the commands anyway
proven sierra
:shudders: yeah
frail dragon
ok so i have edited the game files to add a new command that lists all commands...
i hope it works
agile spindle
Do things like Jeffreys' PDA and the alterra research notes warrant their own page?
Since we have one for both the kharaa and bio samples
fierce imp
yeah i think they should have pages
fierce imp
doesnt look like we do
granite pasture
How can I be inolved with helping the wiki?
agile spindle
Update articles/add photos to articles that don't have any
We have a lot of stub articles right now
granite pasture
So how would I upload this?
agile spindle
Is that a Gel Sack?
granite pasture
Yes.
agile spindle
Why do you want to upload that?
lofty cypress
Maybe on the gel sack page gallery?
granite pasture
There isn't a picture on this. https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Blood_Kelp_Zone#Flora
agile spindle
I'm gonna stop you there and have you read this first https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Subnautica_Wiki:Guidelines
granite pasture
Oh, thank you!
This game probably has one of the best communities.
It's also probably one of the best games.
Oh, I have to put this up for discussion?
agile spindle
No, we don't actually do that much anymore, we generally discuss it in here
But for minor changes or adding photos you can just go ahead and do it
granite pasture
Would it be a good idea to have small pictures of the resource to the right of the name of the resource?
agile spindle
Under the names? It's a list, that'd make it hard to read
agile spindle
That's not really a reason not to do something
granite pasture
Well, maybe there are some other things we should prioritize is what I think he's saying.
agile spindle
I like the idea but it's something we'd need to figure out first, and it's big enough to warrant the need to inform everyone first
frail dragon
Yeah because when I first played Subnautica and looked at the wiki I had to click on every link to find out what something looked like
It’d help but as you said we’d need to ask everyone first and not everything has an icon
granite pasture
Yeah, I understand what you're saying.
hallow basalt
the icons next to the text would be only for resources right?
cuz you still have stuff like fauna and flora
granite pasture
Maybe when you hover over the link it shows a picture of it.
hallow basalt
it'd stick out too much imo
agile spindle
Unless we used really tiny pictures of the transparency
hallow basalt
since the others don't really have icons
granite pasture
Maybe a brief description.
hallow basalt
the hover could work, however
agile spindle
The issue with that is if we do figure out how to implement that, it might be really difficult for the average joe to add a resource to a page
hallow basalt
how so
agile spindle
I guess we could make a template, that's still a bit unintuitive
hallow basalt
oh right
agile spindle
Well we need code there to make the hover appear
Say we use a template, people might not know we do that and just add a normal link
hallow basalt
true
agile spindle
Tho if they edit they might see that everything uses a template and maybe copy it
granite pasture
WHat do you mean?
agile spindle
Links are easy to add, they're just [[Link]]
But for stuff like hovering images we'd need code for it
Obviously we can't just write that code every time we need a link
So we'd make a template for that code to call it, like {{HoverLink|Crashfish}} or something
That might not be that hard to copy for a new editor
I'll see if I can whip a template up later
agile spindle
Yeah, the templates are written in HTML
granite pasture
I think I finally found my motivation to learn HTML.
hallow basalt
I had to learn it by force on another wiki
hallow basalt
well
frail dragon
Wait a second... is C# any similar to HTML?
hallow basalt
"learn"
frail dragon
Oof
frail dragon
C# is the only thing I know
I guess I kinda get JavaScript a bit but whatever
agile spindle
HTML is a web "programming" language
hollow patrol
A markup language
agile spindle
C# is an actual programming language
granite pasture
Unreal Engine uses C#.
agile spindle
as does unity
hollow patrol
Unreal is c++ and bp
frail dragon
I thought it was unity that used C# and Unreal that used C++
hollow patrol
Yes
agile spindle
They're quite different actually
granite pasture
Wait, actually Unreal Engine might use C++.
frail dragon
I feel like fandom/wikia tries to makes the wiki great for the viewers but awful for the editors
cinder kestrel
That's not a feeling, that's a judgement. And I sense hostility in your judgement.
hollow patrol
Wasn't someone at uwe trying to migrate from Wikia at some point
cinder kestrel
Sorry, the quote is: "That's not a feeling, it's a judgment. And I feel hostility in what you're saying."
stuck pawn
i believe andrew mentioned once they were contemplating moving the wiki to an UWE hosted domain
frail dragon
Does that Charlie person even do anything anymore
stuck pawn
you mean god himself
agile spindle
I guess they contemplated without even asking the wiki cause thats the first I'm hearing of it
frail dragon
Nvm
cinder kestrel
Makes sense.
Except moving the wiki would not make cents.
agile spindle
How come they didn't?
frail dragon
The link only displayed “more time to game”
agile spindle
thats why you click the link
granite pasture
Is there anything that needs to be done currently?
agile spindle
Most of us are focused on the BZ wiki right now
cinder kestrel
agile spindle
There is one thing that I can think of that needs to be done on the SN Wiki
hollow patrol
Should've used ctrl shift i