#📚wiki-discussion

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agile spindle
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besides bip made all the pages so he knew what was in the game

cinder kestrel
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Wow, I think my job is done--and I never edited an article to do it . . .

agile spindle
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We're still lacking on the biomes department

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gaah

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I really want to work on them but I'm so tired

cinder kestrel
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Goodnight to you, goodnight to me, goodnight to the woman frozen under the sea.

summer kindle
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Is it actually necessary for us to have the Twisty Bridges split across 3 pages?

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We have 7? different Lost River areas contained within one page on the Subnautica wiki

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We just need to work out how inclusive or exclusive we want to be with the pages because currently we’re not too consistent

main lintel
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hey can someone tell me how i can find crystalline sulfur the one that you can find in subnautica in the lost river

hallow basalt
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Under the green brine

agile spindle
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shallow and middle twisty are pretty wilidly different

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all areas of lr have the same atmosphere and resources

frail dragon
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But idk

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We need a template for a warning for content that is not available in game yet

agile spindle
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You mean like {{NotInGame}}

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which I pinged all the wiki keepers about but not one has used it yet

frail dragon
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Oh

agile spindle
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Did we unprotect yet?

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Some pages are protected and some arent so I can't tell

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@late island don't touch thermal spires rn

late island
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Where's the Glacier?

agile spindle
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I remember seeing its tag, I thought it was around the edge above ground but bippity put caves

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maybe its both

late island
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Where is it in relation to the Ice Sheet?

agile spindle
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around it? not positive

cinder kestrel
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I thought we were keeping all pages protected until about eight hours from now.

agile spindle
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ah okay

cinder kestrel
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I was told to wait a day before getting SLSbot to unprotect everything, and I am not sure whether that would be 20 hours or 30 hours (before, or after, I am at school).

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Well, since I lack the time before school to do it, I suppose it will be after, unless somebody starts doing it manually.

agile spindle
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We'll just wait till you get home

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theres no rush

late island
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I don't see this Glacier biome.

cinder kestrel
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Dun dun dun.

late island
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Oh wait I think it's down there.

summer kindle
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Is glacier not the cave where the skeleton is

late island
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Oh right it's the leviathan cave.

agile spindle
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that's more of a mini-biome

summer kindle
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Also tueman the Lost River areas do have differing resources and fauna spawns

late island
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The wording on the Ice Sheet confused me.

summer kindle
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I wouldn’t say that glacier is a mini biome

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We have Grand Reef Caves as it’s own page and that’s pretty much nothing

late island
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It's bigger than the Rocket Island.

summer kindle
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And yeah the cave is big

late island
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What's this image for?

agile spindle
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It's the transparent image

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idk how bippity does them

late island
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Why though we have one.

agile spindle
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Every single page has one other than biomes

late island
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Also that's super small and has a bunch of background left in.

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But we don't need it any way.

agile spindle
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Like I said idk how bippity does them, I made a temp one

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goddamn it how did I miss that

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I went through the list twice

late island
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There are a couple other images I still need to finish cropping later.

summer kindle
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I don’t know what will be getting data bank entries or not

agile spindle
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it has an entry

summer kindle
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If the violet beau reskin doesn’t get its own entry should we reduce it to a subsection of the violet beau page?

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There are a couple of reskin plants

late island
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Feels weird that it wouldn't.

summer kindle
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Tom said that he doesn’t like reskins (low tier opinion) and he is Tom so...

agile spindle
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@summer kindle How long does it take you do get transparent images?

summer kindle
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Ask @late island

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Can you interact with the leviathan skeleton

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Never mind I just searched up and found you still can

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We need a page for Kharaa sample

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Has the same icon as the enzymes currently

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Which also needs a page

agile spindle
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idk what the spotted reeds relative is but I see normal spotted reeds

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scratch that

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they look vaguely different

summer kindle
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Well the relative doesn’t have spots

agile spindle
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@late island how do you get transparencies? photoshop?

late island
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yeah

agile spindle
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How long does that take you generally?

late island
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varies

agile spindle
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ok well you do a really great job of it

summer kindle
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Everybody Pat Dino on the back

open fractal
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where can I find coral sample ?

agile spindle
open fractal
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ok ty

agile spindle
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Are we gonna deal with Experimental vs Stable again this time around?

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I'd rather we just make it clear everything is Experimental

summer kindle
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Sure

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Dig out the old experimental template, I don’t think I ever transferred that one over

agile spindle
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done

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if you want to switch out the pictures on the page be my guest but i gotta go

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Oh and steam just updated, item phasegate spawns a phasegate

wet sand
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phasegate was already buildable

summer kindle
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Yeah that was a thing already

jolly salmon
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helloo

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i have a question for people who have played the game

scarlet sundial
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@jolly salmon Which game?

jolly salmon
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below zero

scarlet sundial
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OK i havent yet want to soon though.

jolly salmon
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i don't know if its a bug which I came across because I've been getting vague inputs

scarlet sundial
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sry i regret that i cant help you.

jolly salmon
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No prob! 😁

agile spindle
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does anyone know the spawn command for the spotted reeds relative or the green beau?

summer kindle
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I tried to find them in the numerical spawn list but couldn’t

agile spindle
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i wrote a mean message saying not to touch my debug spawns page id like to append that and say i would like feedback

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idk if i need a table for it i just put it together quickly

proven sierra
fluid lagoon
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why the heck is that back

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that was a scrapped thing from SN

proven sierra
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Also, the page for the phasegate doesn't show a picture of it...

summer kindle
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It was still present in the first game if you used commands

proven sierra
agile spindle
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were working on the wiki don’t worry

proven sierra
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Okay 👍

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WOW!! I just walked through it and it teleported me to the other one. I didn't expect it to be working!

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And if you have more than 2, it takes you to the next one that was placed (or the first if it was the last)

iron drift
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have anyone seen any leviathan else than the whale ?

summer kindle
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Only the Sea Emperors and the Whales spawn naturally

iron drift
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and the enzyme guy

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ok thx

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also maguerit talked to me when I was in a deep area with a white structure

paper flare
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why are you locking every page

iron drift
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the girl that wanted to kill every titan I mean leviathan

summer kindle
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We’re unlocking pages

paper flare
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it makes the meaning of wiki obsolete

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no

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more than half the pages are still locked

summer kindle
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Yeah because a bot is going to unlock them all later

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@cinder kestrel

paper flare
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and @agile spindle

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why did you delete my page

summer kindle
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What was the page

paper flare
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nutrient block

summer kindle
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Well there’s no way to obtain it in game yet is there? Or is there a supply drop with it

paper flare
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yes there is

narrow dagger
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It's in the rocket base

paper flare
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on the rocket island base

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there is one

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yes

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so why

agile spindle
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the page looked like garbage

summer kindle
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Oh yeah I forgot about that one

agile spindle
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make it better

paper flare
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then you could have edited it?

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instead of deleting it

agile spindle
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i thought we were still locked down tbh

paper flare
summer kindle
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We can’t block people from making pages

agile spindle
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but perfect opportunity to read the guidelines and do it better

sand patrol
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What's the next after sending auto scan with rocket ?

agile spindle
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habitat builder

sand patrol
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where's the fox ... ?

summer kindle
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Probably just an error there

sand patrol
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how did u go on the flat ?

agile spindle
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you are spamming

proven sierra
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Oh. Sorry then

narrow dagger
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Is there some list of item IDs in the game files, or do they have to be bruteforced?

heady gulch
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Play the guessing game

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Check favro as well.

agile spindle
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yea mostly guessing

heady gulch
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Sometimes when they work on things they have file name for images and such with the Id name used to spawn it.

agile spindle
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they all have numbers tho so that helps

bitter hearth
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when is it coming out on steam

cursive vigil
vocal loom
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do anyone know how to get silver fast ?

agile spindle
vocal loom
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@agile spindle how do i get subnautica below zero ?

agile spindle
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buy it on steam and stop asking questions in the wrong chat

vocal loom
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k

agile spindle
dense dust
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Debug Spawn "BatteryChargerFragment" not working. anyone else having this issue?

frail dragon
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That’s because it can’t be spawned normally

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Usually if it doesn’t have an item it can’t be spawned with commands

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It can only spawn when the world is created

dense dust
wet sand
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are you playing Below Zero or Subnautica

dense dust
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BelowZero

frail dragon
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Well it’s not in Below Zero

wet sand
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that is the base game wiki, not the Below Zero wiki

dense dust
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There is no Below Zero wiki afaik

frail dragon
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Yes there is

wet sand
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read the channel description

heady gulch
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There is.

frail dragon
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There’s a link to the Below Zero wiki on like every wiki page

wet sand
dense dust
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oh ok

frail dragon
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And either way you can use unlock batterycharger

dense dust
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thx

eager vortex
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I'm just waiting for it to be added. I don't want to ruin the game by spawning in stuff in my main survival save

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But having a battery charger would be great... 😦

dense dust
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LOL i did it with the fragment (for testing) xD now it said "unlocked batterycharger fragment" 😂

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does that even make sense?

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@eager vortex , for base game yes.

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for Below Zero, that's already too buggy.

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(so no issue using 1-2 unlock commands there)

stuck pawn
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this isn't wiki talk

dense dust
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yeah, sorry. Thought it was related enough.

frail dragon
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the page is still locked, can someone add the Arctic Peeper to this? https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Sparse_Arctic

Subnautica: Below Zero

The Sparse Arctic is a biome located in shallow areas under ice shelves. Because there is little sunlight that reaches the area, there is no flora located here. Currently only Titan Holefish and...

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also even though it could be a placeholder, but there is another huge sparse arctic that is not under an ice shelf

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finally, in the sentence "Additionally, Pengwings will occasionally swim under the ice shelves into the biome, possibly to feed on the Symbiotes.", you might want to replace symbiotes with arctic peeper because they dont seem to like to eat symbiotes

paper flare
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can I create pages now without them being deleted

agile spindle
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if you do it right

paper flare
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yes sir

wintry ruin
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What should I do if the wiki for subnautica below zero is inaccurate and it is a protected page

agile spindle
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which page

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were unprotecting everything later but i can unprotect it now

wintry ruin
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The vehicles page does not show seamoth although I was able to spawn it earlier

summer kindle
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It’s not gonna be in the game

agile spindle
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it won’t be in the game naturally

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spawning it with commands doesn’t mean it’s in the game

wintry ruin
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I spawned it with the vehicle assembly pad

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Along with a prawn suit

agile spindle
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sure but it won’t be in the game without commands

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ever

summer kindle
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Prawn Suits will be in the game

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The Seamoth will not

heady gulch
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It’s in the files and is spawnable. I’m guessing it’ll be removed future versions along with some other things

agile spindle
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not necessarily

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but it will not be in game without commands

wintry ruin
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The assembly pad that I spawned with when I was playing around in creative could spawn all items except the Neptune rocket and the cyclops.

heady gulch
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Just a wild guess.

agile spindle
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we only have pages for things that you can or will be able to see without commands

wintry ruin
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@agile spindle commands are not using items obtainable in game if you have all the blueprints

agile spindle
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the seamoth will not be available without commands in the final game

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it won’t be in the final game

wintry ruin
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Which I have not played enough to see if the vehicle assembly pad is possible to be obtained in survival.

agile spindle
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it isn’t

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and when it will the seamoth won’t be in it

vestal hare
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Are there no vehicles in survival?

agile spindle
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no

vestal hare
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Why

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That’s frustrating

heady gulch
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Because they aren’t done yet

paper flare
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on the mobile vehicle bay what is the Neptune escape rocket

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what does it make

vestal hare
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Ohhh

agile spindle
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it won’t be in the final game don’t worry about it

paper flare
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but what does it make

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if you click it

frail dragon
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neptune rocket

summer kindle
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No it doesn’t work iirc

frail dragon
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is it ok to get some in-game screenshots for the wiki

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not just void pictures or whatever

agile spindle
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yes

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follow the guidelines though

frail dragon
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why is the sea truck so yellow inside

agile spindle
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budget cuts

frail dragon
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anyway where are the guidelines

agile spindle
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under community

frail dragon
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"The modules can be driven without being attached to the main compartment, but are slower."
They technically aren't driven, the player grabs onto them from above and pulls them

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but idk if it matters

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i'm just going to add the image to the wiki and not to an existing gallery because of the protection. again, not sure if it matters

heady gulch
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Should the list of aboveground biomes have its own page?

agile spindle
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why?

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caves don’t

heady gulch
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Fair enough, for me it just feels a little odd to have “aboveground” linked to the category in pages like this. https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Rocket_Island Instead of having it lead to the area on the biomes page that has the list of aboveground biomes.

Subnautica: Below Zero

The Rocket Island is a small aboveground biome that will be featured in Subnautica: Below Zero. It will be in a centralized area of the map, and is where the story-important Exchanger Rocket...

agile spindle
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that’s the case with surface and caves as well tho

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oh that’s a decent solution

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yea we could do that

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ask sls to do it, he’ll be happy to have his boy do something

frail dragon
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ok so uh should i just upload the images to the wiki itself or should i wait for a page to get unprotected or something

agile spindle
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up to you

frail dragon
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why is there a folder called thermal expansion in the files

agile spindle
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beats me

frail dragon
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about protection... when exactly will the pages get unprotected?

dense dust
wet sand
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because SLS' bot hasn't unlocked the wiki yet

frail dragon
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itd save a lot of time for me to unlock the sea truck page but its up to the wiki keepers

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because otherwise i'd have to upload every image one by one

agile spindle
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we will unlock everything when sls gets on

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just be patient

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well not everything but most pages

frail dragon
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ok

dense dust
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"SLS" ?

cinder kestrel
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That is the bulk of my name.

frail dragon
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is your bot being lazy again

cinder kestrel
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No, it just never bothered doing anything.

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Anyway, I just have one request on behalf of the bot.

agile spindle
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actually sls we have a second job for the bot, i’ll tell you what it is when i get home in 30

fluid lagoon
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somebody told you to go to below zero chat

cinder kestrel
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Tell me, please, what the channel description says.

fluid lagoon
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and yet you move here, still the wrong room

cinder kestrel
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Yes, it does.

agile spindle
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of course we know, but this isn’t a questions channel

cinder kestrel
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@lean folio You can try checking the description of this channel to find the wiki.

lean folio
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Apologies.

cinder kestrel
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I do not know if we have the fact yet, but enjoy.

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@fluid lagoon SLSbot needs to be an administrator to unprotect the pages, as requested.
And, you seem to be the only bureaucrat online.

fluid lagoon
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i don't exactly know how to find SLSbot's profile

cinder kestrel
dense dust
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"That is the bulk of my name." xD sorry! Didn't know he meant a person!

cinder kestrel
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The more you know.

dense dust
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how does one get the "wiki keeper" tag here btw? 🙂

cinder kestrel
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Become a keeper of the wiki.

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Contribute for a long time, etc.

dense dust
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who decides in here who gets the tag? You, alone? 🙂

cinder kestrel
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Any articles which we do want protected, guys?

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Oh, I am naught but a small wiki keeper.

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And a keeper of a bot.

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BippityBop and--well, here we are.

stuck pawn
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I'd say the to do list needs to stay protected for now

dense dust
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"naught" ? whats that? (I only know "naughty" 😳 xD)

cinder kestrel
heady gulch
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keep the major story articles as protected.

dense dust
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wow, is that word some old Shakespeare english term?

stuck pawn
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like the alien bases and al-an, Xeno?

frail dragon
heady gulch
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essentially anything that gets the most traffic because those are articles kids are most likely goin to go write up 20 page theories and ideas in.

dense dust
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pls use < > around that link.

heady gulch
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yeah. the pages for the characters.

dense dust
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that preview image is HUUUUGE

cinder kestrel
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Such is life.

stuck pawn
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to do list and major story pages then

cinder kestrel
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I will assume that includes the 32 pages in Category:Story . . . ?

stuck pawn
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I think it would include the bases and characters

fluid lagoon
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god i'm gonna have to go out of experimental mode to take pictures of all the precursor caches

cinder kestrel
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And one second before you post that, tomless, I unprotect "Alterra Bases." Oh, well.

stuck pawn
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What's done is done

cinder kestrel
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Are there categories for the bases and characters, or should it be easy to tell from the names of the articles?

fluid lagoon
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actually i'm just gonna take screenshots of the structures that are in experimental mode and then swap to stable to take pictures of the caches

frail dragon
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what structures are in experimental...?

fluid lagoon
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some of them have updated details

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@cinder kestrel can you or somebody else add a tabber to the alien research site zero infobox

frail dragon
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ok and is the deep twisty bridges any different

fluid lagoon
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i haven't looked down there

cinder kestrel
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Do you need a tabber for the gallery, or for the whole thing?

fluid lagoon
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the gallery

echo bridge
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Ok ;-;

agile spindle
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@cinder kestrel can you have the bot replace all instances of [[:Category:Aboveground|Aboveground]] with [[Biomes#Aboveground|Aboveground]] and ditto with Surface and Caves?

cinder kestrel
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Sure.

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@fluid lagoon

Image1.png|First label
Image2.png|Second label
</gallery>```
agile spindle
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I'm editing the Mapping page, might take a while so don't touch it

cinder kestrel
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Even if you want to use a channel, they can still easily find where in chat you pin--and you are gone. Have a nice day.

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(Is this getting deleted as well?)

agile spindle
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I deleted my messages myself

cinder kestrel
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Whoa, we can delete messages in this channel now.

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What else can we do?

agile spindle
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You can always delete your own messages

cinder kestrel
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(Realizes I am dead wrong)

agile spindle
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in every channel ever

cinder kestrel
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I definitely did not think I was trying to delete your messages as a test.

agile spindle
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it's great for destroying evidence 😉

stuck pawn
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it's still in the audit log though tueman

cinder kestrel
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Yes, until they get a bot like Dynobot to record it all.

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No, it is not, tomless.

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Self-deletes do not register.

stuck pawn
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Oh they don't? I never knew

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thank you for enlightening me

fluid lagoon
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do we just not have a frozen river page

agile spindle
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Nope

fluid lagoon
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welp

agile spindle
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make one

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Since we're on the topic, the Ice Cave should be part of the Shield Base page yes?

fluid lagoon
agile spindle
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yea

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solid picture

stuck pawn
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it probably should be counted, though i don't know if it's got it's own id

agile spindle
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Sometimes we ignore id

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See: Lost River

stuck pawn
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valid

agile spindle
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Also is the Rocket Base part of the Rocket Island page?

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or part of the Exchanger Rocket page?

fluid lagoon
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nobody touch the frozen river page

stuck pawn
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too late

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anyways it should be on the rocket island page

agile spindle
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oki

stuck pawn
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unless other people think otherwise

dense dust
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Sea Truck article needs a different template. instead of The contents of this article are not currently in the game naturally but may be added in the future. it should say The contents of this article are currently not-finalized in the game naturally but may be added in the future.

agile spindle
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It applies

dense dust
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as one can already spawn in the seatruck

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not entirely.

agile spindle
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"Not in the game naturally"

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Naturally

dense dust
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ooooh that way, okay.

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YES, OK xD

cinder kestrel
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Finished unprotecting, now converting :Category:Aboveground to Biomes#Aboveground and :Category:Surface to Biomes#Surface and :Category:Caves to Biomes#Caves .

fluid lagoon
agile spindle
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well written vee

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add it to biomes

fluid lagoon
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oh god i hate working with tables

agile spindle
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just copy a different biome entry and rename everything

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make sure it's in the right place alphabet and table wise though

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Hey looks like they removed the Arctic Spires Sanctuary Cache

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but they left the port in

cinder kestrel
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Hey, tueman, you told me to change those links, but the anchors (e.g., #Aboveground) do not work.

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I assume you remember that <span id="{AnchorName}"></span> works, from back when we did Console Commands.

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Anyway, I will probably fix it in a few hours if it is still a problem.

agile spindle
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Can you change the links to #Above Water Biomes for aboveground, #Underwater Biomes for surface, and #Underwater Caves for caves?

cinder kestrel
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(Stops bot) Sure.

agile spindle
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thats what they are on the biomes page

fluid lagoon
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i'm making a new page

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almanac caches

agile spindle
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They took all the caches out fyi

fluid lagoon
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only from experimental

agile spindle
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oh big brain

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tfw less content in experimental

fluid lagoon
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we may not have caches in experimental but we have icebergs 😩 👌

cinder kestrel
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Ooh, spoilers in this channel.

tepid roost
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are there any hover bike mods in the game yet

twilit ocean
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You know you can use || now || to hide spoilers

agile spindle
tepid roost
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ok

fluid lagoon
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||this is the wiki chat and the wiki has spoilers therefore this can have spoilers||

agile spindle
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if you come in here wanting to not be spoiled its your own fault

twilit ocean
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I don't mind them, it was just an FYI

agile spindle
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hey vee why do you make empty pages before editing them

fluid lagoon
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i don't like the editor it starts me in

agile spindle
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so change editor

cinder kestrel
agile spindle
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and change your default in setting

cinder kestrel
fluid lagoon
agile spindle
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vee

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Do not tell me you've been using something other than source editor this entire time

wet sand
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the source editor scares me

fluid lagoon
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well i stole this screenshot from bippity so it's not specifically source editor

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because i use source editor

agile spindle
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oh thank god

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you had me scared

fluid lagoon
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not that blue monstrosity

agile spindle
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classic rich text editor or some garbage?

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at least you dont use visual editor

cinder kestrel
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:Category:Surface -> Biomes#Surface -> Biomes#Underwater BIomes
:Category:Caves -> Biomes#Caves -> Biomes#Underwater Caves```
These two processes of changers are now changed.
agile spindle
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The i in Underwater Biomes should be lowercase

cinder kestrel
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(Checks what I did versus what I typed)
And it appears I did it right with my bot and wrong on Discord just now.

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Yay?

fluid lagoon
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back in stable to take screenshots of the caches and eugh the frozen river is ugly again

agile spindle
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lol

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@cinder kestrel thank you

cinder kestrel
#

You are welcome.

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I take my leave, unless you need anything else from either of us . . . ?

fluid lagoon
agile spindle
#

gug

fluid lagoon
#

i assume we want fog off for the crystal cache because it's pitch black otherwise

agile spindle
#

I shone a light on it

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but your choice, photographer

fluid lagoon
agile spindle
#

I saw someone post a picture of a smaller Frozen Leviathan model from Below Zero

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anyone know where that is?

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or did he spawn it in

fluid lagoon
#

ut

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wut

heady gulch
#

erm. for the spinner fish page, gallery, misc. photos. would it be fair to label the pic captioned "Spinnerfish in-game" to Something like. "A developer Screenshot of the Spinnerfish."

agile spindle
#

yes

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I saw a picture of a smaller version of the Frozen Leviathan placeholder model

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I dunno if it was spawned in or there's actually another skeleton

summer kindle
agile spindle
#

i feel attacked

stuck pawn
agile spindle
#

Honestly just kill me

heady gulch
#

im so confused

agile spindle
#

Who can read that

heady gulch
#

what. Can he English?

stuck pawn
#

would it be in bad taste if i asked that

agile spindle
#

no

heady gulch
#

should i do it? or should you ask him to speak more clearly

agile spindle
#

oh you mean directly to him

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no thats rude dont do that

fluid lagoon
#

oh right that's the dude whose page i deleted

stuck pawn
#

what if i politely ask him to speak proper english

heady gulch
#

just respond saying your a little confused about what he's stating

summer kindle
#

The use of surface for underwater biomes really annoys me always

agile spindle
#

I couldn't think of a better word that meant underwater without possibly meaning caves

summer kindle
#

Yeah I know it’s just weird

agile spindle
#

actually i didn't come up with it but

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I can't think of anything else

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Maybe "Open" biomes but it's a little confusing

summer kindle
#

Why did you do aboveground instead of above sea level

agile spindle
#

Three word categories hurt my brain

wet sand
#

there's a command called cold that changes the gamemode but currently it does nothing

agile spindle
#

are you using it in creative

wet sand
#

no

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i'm in survival

agile spindle
#

oh well okay

summer kindle
#

Yeah they removed heat management for now

wet sand
#

^

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that's what i was theorizing

agile spindle
#

i guess it's not implemented yet even as a command

fluid lagoon
summer kindle
#

Blue

#

Yeah that’s good enough

fluid lagoon
#

Blue

wet sand
#

i did some testing and in the latest experimental update the ice worm actually will attack the player if you spawn one

#

is it okay to edit the wiki page to say that

agile spindle
#

yea

#

everythings unprotected

wet sand
#

alright

summer kindle
#

If you just stand still when an ice worm pops up they leave

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They also have unique attacks against the Snowfox

wet sand
#

i know but if you keep moving it will attack

frail dragon
#

what is their snowfox attack tho

summer kindle
#

About 4 different animations for Snowfox attacks depending on where you are in relation to them

#

Currently they don’t acknowledge the existence of the Prawn Suit though

frail dragon
#

because as far as I know against the player they have a kinda lunge attack, a swipe attack, and a jump attack

wet sand
#

oh god i refreshed the page and it brought me to the editor i am scared

summer kindle
#

What do you mean by a swipe attack

wet sand
#

the ice worm will swipe at you with its entire body

summer kindle
#

Oh that one used to be Snowfox exclusive

agile spindle
#

it has 2 swipe attacks

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i saw both used on a thumper

summer kindle
#

Well all of them knock you off of the Snowfox

wet sand
#

you know i think their a bit too sensitive to sound because literally as soon as i pressed shift and moved an inch two popped their heads out

frail dragon
#

the ice worm is honestly terrifying

fluid lagoon
#

i haven't seen it use the swipe attack yet

agile spindle
#

scared the robin outta me first time i spawned it

wet sand
#

i didn't realize they did the swipe attack until a minute or so ago

fluid lagoon
#

just the "over the rainbow" one and the one where it fails to break through the ice twice

frail dragon
#

it seems to be an equal chance for every attack

wet sand
#

anyways i am now going to slowly creep towards the snowfox

summer kindle
#

I had it do this attack once where it jutted forward and speared the snowfox with its horn without leaving the ground

frail dragon
#

why are the pictures in the starting base such awful resolution

summer kindle
#

Never managed to get it again

wet sand
#

for having no eyes they are surprisingly good at tracking you when they leap

fluid lagoon
#

they're from developer vids

#

i need to take new pictures

frail dragon
#

i mean in-game

#

the posters

summer kindle
#

Maybe they have tiny infrared sensors who knows

fluid lagoon
#

because they're made with mspaint

summer kindle
#

They’re placeholder posters anyway so why does it matter

frail dragon
#

exactly what i was going to say

wet sand
#

"Ice Worms made by precursors?????"

frail dragon
#

about mspaint

agile spindle
#

I like the ecosystem poster

#

it's very informative

frail dragon
#

i cant even read them

wet sand
#

hmm my snowfox has appeared to have gone the way of the ice worm in the fact that it is now underground

frail dragon
#

too pixely

summer kindle
#

Get new eyes

spare zephyr
#

get some clout

frail dragon
#

and im not sure if this is confirmed or not but for the base game wiki do we have any correlation with cuddlefish and the precursors/almanac

summer kindle
#

There’s nothing concrete on that

frail dragon
#

do we have anything on the weather panel

fluid lagoon
#

wasn't that scrapped

frail dragon
#

maybe

wet sand
#

it's still in game so

#

eh

frail dragon
#

its still in creative

agile spindle
#

weather station was scrapped

#

if it's in game you can add it to Cut Content

frail dragon
agile spindle
#

looks scrapped to me

frail dragon
#

the weather station tells the weather
the weather panel displays the weather

agile spindle
#

maybe it's in the control room then

#

or planned to be

frail dragon
#

nope the control room already is basically complete

#

just a couple unmodeled parts

wet sand
#

aside from the fact that it's literally using the scanner room's model

frail dragon
#

with more added on

cursive vigil
#

hello

agile spindle
#

We require a Twisty Bridges Caves page

frail dragon
agile spindle
#

yes we know

frail dragon
#

oh

agile spindle
#

I'm going to make the caves page I mentioned less than 30 seconds ago

summer kindle
#

The base recharge platform is likely the mini moonpool equivalent mentioned on favro

#

It recharges the prawn but not very well

#

As in it charges it 1% and then stops

frail dragon
#

...

agile spindle
#

looks fine

#

Did they disable the controller dev menu in experimental

#

I might rage

#

large thronk

wet sand
#

does it do anything

agile spindle
#

No, drop is a cube and holding it is also a cube with no effects

wet sand
#

might just be a leftover from the Snowfox development

agile spindle
wet sand
#

oh that

#

what’s the spawn for it

agile spindle
#

item 764

wet sand
#

ok

late island
#

I feel like your image titles could be more descriptive than "biome name, number"

agile spindle
#

I think they're fine

late island
#

I try and make sure to describe what the image has in it.

agile spindle
#

You're gonna have to look up and memorize the name of a screenshot to use it anyway

late island
#

Also easier if you want to reorganize the images on the page.

wet sand
#

okay the deployable drill does not attract the ice worm yet

#

shouldn't be surprised i guess

frail dragon
#

Is the drill still cut content

spare zephyr
#

what

#

lmao

agile spindle
#

the drill is a cut candidate

frail dragon
#

Oh that’s what I meant

#

What exactly is a cut candidate anyway

agile spindle
#

means it might be cut

frail dragon
#

Things that they consider cutting?

#

Can cutting even be used as a verb for this

agile spindle
#

yes

frail dragon
#

I don’t see why the drill would be cut but ok

rain delta
#

Boi

#

It's not cut

#

It's a cut candidate which means it may or may bit get into the game

#

Not*

fluid lagoon
#

which of these should be the infobox for the cache

stuck pawn
#

the former

agile spindle
#

The thing in the middle is part of the cache? you sure?

fluid lagoon
#

i mean maybe
that middle thing could also be the crystal castle but i'm not sure

agile spindle
#

Yea I'm not sure thats part of the cache

#

definitely use the first one

late island
#

Updated the Rocket Island image.

agile spindle
#

looks good

late island
#

@agile spindle Also what there is different?

agile spindle
#

I don't remember it opening up

late island
#

I feel like it always did that.

agile spindle
#

well ok

#

@fierce imp are you doing data downloads?

fierce imp
#

i was going to but my internet is down so you can do them

agile spindle
#

Yep I'm on it

#

Also for the sake of version-comparison I'm adding incomplete data downloads as well

floral burrow
#

Symbiot Fish can be picked up and put into aquarium (in case you don't already have that on the wiki)

velvet condor
#

has anyone posted anything about the ending

#

there is a data bamk that states the ending

#

ill post images with spoiler warnings

agile spindle
#

This is a spoiler zone, dont bother posting warning just let it rip

velvet condor
#

they are below the research base zero you can only see it using /ghost

#

vesper gets exploded

#

is there anything on this yet?

fierce imp
#

yes we know
its pretty likely that isnt the actual ending because that line was specifically left in

velvet condor
#

well it seames likely that that might be it

#

it would be a really good twist

fierce imp
#

we’ll know when act 5 is out

velvet condor
#

when is that?

fierce imp
#

release

velvet condor
#

oh

#

is act 2 soon or what?

fluid lagoon
#

act 2 is already out

velvet condor
#

really?

fierce imp
#

act 2 is already in game
its from after you get the pod to when you send the biosample up

velvet condor
#

i thought we were aon act 1

#

ojh

#

how short is sub zero then

fierce imp
#

shorter than subnautica

velvet condor
#

aww

#

when is act 3?

tough garden
#

SPOILERS but hey any of the wikikeepers at the end of subnautica after the credits it says Riley has to settle a outstanding price of 1 trillion credits does that mean alterra owes him money or does it mean he has to pay that amount to land?

agile spindle
#

he has to pay

tough garden
#

Ok thanks

cursive vigil
#

wait

#

i thought it said he has a balance of 1 trillion credits

fierce imp
#

outstanding balance

#

meaning its debt

cursive vigil
#

But why would he have to pay after HE CRASHED ON A PLANET?

agile spindle
#

cause alterra bad

fierce imp
#

because they claimed all the resources on it

tough garden
#

Yes because alterra bad

cursive vigil
#

😡

#

An account settlement generally refers to the payment of an outstanding balance that brings the account balance to zero. It can also refer to completion of an offset process between two or more parties in an agreement, whether a positive balance remains in any of the accounts.

#

you guys i right and i know it ;-;

tough garden
#

Ok thanks for the help wikikeepers

agile spindle
agile spindle
#

wew im done with data downloads

#

I assumed Emergency and Work Docs aren't part of it, dunno if thats right but they're not under Data Downloads

fierce imp
#

yeah the emergency entries are on the PDA page on the other wiki
i guess work docs can go there too

agile spindle
#

Ok I'll add them

#

Unless you're already doing so?

fierce imp
#

nope

agile spindle
#

What about advanced theories?

#

We make pages for those right?

fierce imp
#

dont think so
where did we put them last time?

agile spindle
#

Alpha Peeper has its own page

#

and advanced theories arent on data downloads so

fierce imp
#

i guess so

stone blaze
#

if you use command spawn seamoth you spawn a seatruck cabin

quick roost
#

Heh

#

Good thing Ridley stole some diamonds and stuffed it into the Neptune rocket

agile spindle
#

Ryley, and wrong chat

quick roost
#

Oof

agile spindle
#

guys you may be tempted to fix the red links but i urge you not to touch my debug spawns page unless you can do it exactly the same as i did

agile spindle
#

@summer kindle We need a beacon page apparently

frail dragon
#

I’m on mobile so I have crappy contrast

#

Not sure how it looks on pc

agile spindle
#

We don't need biome shots of stuff that isn't in the game yet

fluid lagoon
#

this picture in general is not good

frail dragon
#

I didn’t take it btw

agile spindle
#

ok well we don't need that picture rn

frail dragon
#

K I found it on the cabin page btw

sand patrol
#

Why when we go back to the base who was under the snow it's like nothing happens ?

agile spindle
#

cause you're not supposed to go back

sand patrol
#

But i found a lot of PDA

agile spindle
#

They were there at the beginning of the game

sand patrol
#

Ah ok

quick roost
#

I think the hoverbike wiki page still says that it's currently not obtainable in game

#

Which is wrong so yea

agile spindle
#

apparently the brinewing is in via commands

gleaming island
#

cheers Igor then

quick roost
#

The what now

summer kindle
#

@agile spindle that update hasn’t gone out yet has it

agile spindle
#

oh that screenie is from favro?

#

from the picture i saw it looks like it’s in game

summer kindle
#

No it’s in

agile spindle
#

big brain

summer kindle
#

Didn’t think that update had gone out already

agile spindle
#

went out this morning

summer kindle
#

Whenever that was

gleaming island
#

what are we talking about?

agile spindle
#

i’m so pissed i had to stop doing debug spawns just before fauna

#

holefish was literally the next one

#

now i gotta wait 7 hrs to see the brinewing

gleaming island
#

why so?

summer kindle
#

I’m gonna be home in about 2 hours so I can do some stuff with the Brinewing

agile spindle
#

school

#

bip we still need a transparency for trivalve btw

#

and brinewing now

quick roost
#

wtf is this brinewing

agile spindle
#

idk if you or dino does it

summer kindle
quick roost
#

Owo

summer kindle
#

It’s just occurred to me that we have a load of small predators but our midsized predators are just Squidshark and Brute Shark?

#

We have Symbiotes, Arctic Rays, Pengwings, Pinnacarids, Nootfish and Brinewings

#

I guess Snowstalkers are also midsized predators

agile spindle
#

in sn there was just 3

#

also rock puncher is kind of a predator

summer kindle
#

Ampeels, River Prowlers, Sand Sharks, Bonesharks, Lava Lizards and Stalkers

agile spindle
#

crab squid

#

wow there were a lot actually

summer kindle
#

That’s too large to be midsized

agile spindle
#

well it’s not a leviathan

summer kindle
#

Crabsnake and Crabsquid are large predators, leviathans are giant

#

Actually Crabsnake isn’t that much bigger than an Ampeel. Probably smaller

quick roost
#

How the heck does the Leviathan class even work

agile spindle
#

idk about smaller

#

leviathan class is a bit inconsistent

quick roost
#

crabsquid looks almost sea treader sized

#

ikr

summer kindle
agile spindle
#

the reaper entry says they’re at the top of their food chain but the seat reader entry says it has predators

summer kindle
#

Ampeel looks bigger than the Crabsnake

agile spindle
#

maybe thicker i thought you meant longer

summer kindle
#

You never go by the length of the animal

agile spindle
#

for subnautica i almost always do

#

cause most of them are long and thin

#

volume wise it does look a bit bigger

summer kindle
#

(Their tentacles can be over 40 metres)

agile spindle
#

fair enough

#

crabsnake is medium sized then

summer kindle
#

Or maybe Ampeel is big enough to be a large predator

agile spindle
#

it’s less than half the length of a reaper

summer kindle
#

It is quite a lot bigger than all of the other stuff we said were midsized

agile spindle
#

which is like the second smallest leviathan

summer kindle
#

Actually the Bonesharks aren’t too far off

#

Screw this

#

They’re all midsized

agile spindle
#

yay

quick roost
#

lol

wet sand
#

how do you add tabs to the gallery of a creature?

agile spindle
#

<tabber>
Tab1=
stuff
|-|
Tab2=
stuff
</tabber>

wet sand
#

oh uh

#

okay

#

when uploading an image, do i click "Thumbnail" or "Full-size"?

agile spindle
#

you’re really hurting me here with the visual editor

fluid lagoon
#

what in gods name is that

wet sand
#

the brinewing's eating animation

fluid lagoon
#

no

#

the everything else

wet sand
#

oh

fluid lagoon
#

i have never seen the editor like that

wet sand
#

okay i'll just format the file like i see all the other images

agile spindle
#

if you use visual editor we’re ethically not allowed to help you

wet sand
#

oh uhh

#

how do i get to the uhh source editor

agile spindle
#

whew

#

the image upload thing looked like visual

wet sand
#

oh

#

so i'm not doing anything wrong?

agile spindle
#

i don’t think so

wet sand
#

i fear no man

#

but this thing

#

it scares me

agile spindle
#

visual editor is like the culmination of all that is evil in the world if satan decided to up his game

wet sand
agile spindle
#

ahh why

wet sand
#

because i don't see any other way to add images

agile spindle
#

just type the name of the file in under the gallery

#

you had it correct in the other picture

wet sand
#

oh

agile spindle
#

oh btw you can name the tabs

#

In-Game= and such

wet sand
#

oh okay

agile spindle
#

and your /gallery should be before /tabber

wet sand
agile spindle
#

and each tab needs its own gallery

wet sand
#

oh

agile spindle
#

not one gallery for both

#

and in game should be above concept art

#

lol so many small things

wet sand
#

i'm moving the ingame and concept tabs around hold on

#

hold on real quick i just need to put these here

agile spindle
#

lol

#

cute

wet sand
#

i'll delete these in a second

agile spindle
#

in game= above the gallery start

#

and you have an empty gallery thing under concept art

wet sand
agile spindle
#

perfect

wet sand
agile spindle
#

oh actually

#

lol

wet sand
agile spindle
#

the gallery on top doesn’t have widths and spacing

wet sand
#

oh okay

agile spindle
#

so fix that and then you’re good

wet sand
#

alright

#

🙏

#

hope this doesn't destroy the world

agile spindle
#

preview before publishing

wet sand
#

i did

#

hold on brineinflation isn't working but i know how to fix this

#

i feel like i just crossed a mountain and a half

#

wait Concept Art tab has a hyphen

#

damn it

agile spindle
#

your images are cropped which kind of against the rules but we don’t have anything better so we’ll leave them for now

wet sand
#

damn it

agile spindle
#

at least you know how to do tabbers now

wet sand
#

yeah

#

and i'm also less afraid of the source editor

agile spindle
#

for the record if you ever need to see how to do something you can open a page in edit to look at it

#

the can copy paste from it too

wet sand
#

alrighty

summer kindle
#

Ching learning how to edit

#

They grow up so fast

#

Aight imma go grab some void pics of the Brinewing

agile spindle
#

godspeed

#

if nobody does transparencies by the time i’m done with debug spawns i’ll take a crack at them

unborn ibex
#

hello

#

can i build the snowfox yet

agile spindle
#

not without commands

summer kindle
agile spindle
#

ghostwing

summer kindle
#

it has a pretty low texture quality

wet sand
#

bip what's your texture quality set at

agile spindle
#

if it’s not on high you have a toaster tbh

summer kindle
#

I've got it set to the max texture quality

agile spindle
#

did it dislocate its jaw?

summer kindle
#

the mouth is permanently open for some reason

wet sand
#

finally, another creature I’ve found with a permanently messed up jaw

summer kindle
#

@agile spindle You can give a transparent one a go

agile spindle
#

i’ll do them after debug spawns

#

unless you send me a good pic and i might be able to do it during my photo class

summer kindle
#

Nah I don’t have time to get one

#

Turns out I had to leave immediately

#

Turns out we now have one

wheat plaza
#

do you guys need a transparent pic for something ?

agile spindle
#

trivalve @wheat plaza

wheat plaza
#

alright

#

on ground or swimming ?

#

Perhaps both

agile spindle
#

swimming

summer kindle
#

Eh the swimming animation looks pretty awkward in still images

agile spindle
#

then both

summer kindle
#

Why can’t we just cut the orange one out and use that

wheat plaza
#

best boy

agile spindle
#

that works

vagrant monolith
#

if im looking for schematics or stuff to learn to build a base....which direction should i look from the starting point?

#

no spoilers, just a rough idea

sleek temple
#

To the aurora boosters

#

There is a fog

#

Or should be

#

Go to this fog

tall rune
#

Guys! I need help. i'm 36 hours in and i'm a little stuck. I just want to get to the ending so i can start Below Zero 😂

spare zephyr
#

are you on regul;ar SN

fierce imp
agile spindle
#

i made a new navbox @ Navbox Structures give feedback

summer kindle
#

@agile spindle needs something for Marguerit structures

#

Maybe replace Alterra with human, or just make a new section

agile spindle
#

it has survivor structures as a tab

#

it’s just empty rn cause we have no pages

#

i don’t really want to lump in marguerit with alterra

cinder kestrel
#

But now we do.

#

||We do.||

naive spindle
#

anyone know how to spawn the snow fox in experimental?

summer kindle
#

Hang on the Lilypads base is Research Base Cappa is it not?
That’s where Jeffreys’ stuff is and Sam said that’s where he passed through

agile spindle
#

it and leviathan are both 150m

#

So your guess is as good as mine

summer kindle
#

Leviathan isn’t a base

agile spindle
#

It has a depth so

summer kindle
#

That’s talking about the frozen leviathan

agile spindle
#

...oh

#

according to the coordinates I myself wrote down, it is about 150m deep so yes

#

I'm big dumb

hallow basalt
#

Should the biomes located in the ILZ have a disambiguation page on the wiki? I think the similar pages template just makes it more confusing than anything.

agile spindle
#

yes

summer kindle
#

A disambiguation page named Lava Zone would work

#

Oh the base game wiki probably has a crappy disambig template still since we never used it afaik

agile spindle
#

I ported it over

summer kindle
#

Ok good

#

Why was the default one so hideously bad

#

It was also unreadable

agile spindle
#

no idea

#

probably a default

summer kindle
#

Oh yeah did anyone find the fabricator base in game

#

Haven’t seen anyone mention it

agile spindle
#

yes

#

it has a goto id

summer kindle
#

Yeah I know

#

I just haven’t seen anybody mention it at all

agile spindle
#

Vee was doing structures

#

maybe she missed it

frail dragon
#

oof

thorny tinsel
#

oh

#

sry

frail dragon
#

but still it is basically complete just a few bugs

thorny tinsel
#

yah

frail dragon
#

and now time to move channels

thorny tinsel
#

but the bugs is simple stuff

frail dragon
#

i found it at -

agile spindle
#

at?

frail dragon
#

oops

#

0

agile spindle
#

so change it

frail dragon
agile spindle
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if you're trying to take a picture of the plant you should get closer

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or find a different one

frail dragon
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ok

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oh wow the music here is terrifying

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and someone missed a large amount of items that are in the lilypad islands so i am adding them now

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what about a picture like this
the unfinished terrain is hard on my eyes but whatever

agile spindle
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Are you taking pictures of the deep lilypads?

frail dragon
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oh well i just noticed its the transition

agile spindle
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transitions are no good

frail dragon
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and even though the deep lilypads is very WIP i do have the depths (320 - 430)
would it be worth putting it on there yet

agile spindle
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you can

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might have to change it later but doesnt hurt

frail dragon
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and what about the entrance to the lilypad caves?
its also very WIP and not sure if its worth putting on there (and you said transitions are no good)

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(after this I don't think I will have any more questions)

agile spindle
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lilypad caves is deep lilypads

frail dragon
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oh well ok

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i got an entry about the goodall family

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is this known of

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and could we make a page for the Goodall family?

agile spindle
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there are 2 entries for goodall family

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and since robin and sam each have a page i dont think it's necessary

frail dragon
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i also believe i found a propulsion cannon fragment

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it may have been the shallow twisty bridges but i cannot confirm this

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has anyone else found one there

agile spindle
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I've seen one but not there

frail dragon
agile spindle
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its cute that you think thats a large edit

frail dragon
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well not that large

agile spindle
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anyway the tabber lists need to be alphabetized

frail dragon
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but compared to my others

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wait i thought i did alphabetize it

fierce imp
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"Jo Jeffrey's base" should be Research Base Cappa

frail dragon
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ok

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and also for some reason the way things spawn in the lily pad islands is strange
all the glow whales are located in one place. all the quartz is mainly around the research base. stalkers are only common near the surface

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yes i have confirmed glow whales spawn there... well not sure about where they spawn but i know for sure that there are some that patrol the area and do not get even within 300 meters of the nearest biome

fierce imp
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@frail dragon could you check what biome the fabricator base is in

frail dragon
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what is the fabricator base lol

agile spindle
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i got it vivi

fierce imp
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thanks

frail dragon
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why do we have a deep arctic page but no arctic page

agile spindle
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part of it is under lilypads and part of it is under tree spires

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but it's right by the entrance to crystal caves

fierce imp
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so crystal caves then?

agile spindle
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I don't think the biome ids are final so just put that yea

fierce imp
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guess that'll work for now

frail dragon
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(most likely)

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there's multiple ones

agile spindle
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I'm aware

fierce imp
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there was a resource in the deep lilypads cave too i think

frail dragon
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and the shallower arctic

agile spindle
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I encountered a few that don't naturally spawn the other day while in debug

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I'm not sure they merit a page tbh

frail dragon
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yeah itd be best to wait for them to get a real name and model and use

agile spindle
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ehhh I take it back

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If it spawns naturally it deserves one

frail dragon
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and about the arctic (above the deep arctic, has a lot of icebergs and glow whales)
why does it not have a page

agile spindle
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ask bip

frail dragon
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@summer kindle Is there a reason the Arctic biome has no page? I have found one for the deep version, but none for the shallower one. If you wouldn't mind, I think I have enough information on the biome to make a page, or at least help in the creation of the page

agile spindle
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it's not the same as sparsearctic right

frail dragon
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different

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arctic is a huge open ocean with icebergs and a deep barren seabed

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and of course glow whales

agile spindle
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I mean is the biome ID different