we're missing a chunk of that one tho
#đwiki-discussion
fluid lagoon
oh wait
looking back to the stream it's just the lower sentence getting cut off and that's it
wet sand
well if you need something written down i don't have much better to do today
agile spindle
@wet sand transcribe the rock puncher entry
wet sand
send pic
agile spindle
it's in the VOD
wet sand
what time
fierce imp
wet sand
thank
thorn notch
I feel like the Rock Puncher is a reference to the mantis shrimp
summer kindle
Thomas Jubertium
"a large crustacean"
That should say "a large crustacean-like species"
smh
agile spindle
is anyone migrating the crashfish page?
wet sand
fierce imp
im doing crashfish
agile spindle
doesnt sound like it
fierce imp
i was going to, guess not
fierce imp
nah its good
agile spindle
sulfur plant is done
agile spindle
it was sulfur on the SN wiki
compact pike
I think it depends on the country you live in
agile spindle
it should be accurate to ingame tho
I'm updating navbox fauna
arctic kelp is renamed to Creepvine right?
summer kindle
no
we don't know what it will be called
oh god this is gonna a pain with updating those names in the recipe template
cursive vigil
Wiki is super busy wow
agile spindle
itll be worse on release
fierce imp
we can get sls to do his thing again
fierce imp
the bot
summer kindle
that thing
agile spindle
"Hey, SLS...do the thing"
uhh is anyone touching Recipe2 right now?
bip or vivi?
fierce imp
nope
agile spindle
@summer kindle ?
agile spindle
are you editing recipe2 bip?
summer kindle
Eagle eye tueman
agile spindle
đ
fierce imp
which biome was the rock puncher in?
agile spindle
sparse arctic
cursive vigil
I doubt that it was Sparse Arctic
agile spindle
thats what leon put
cursive vigil
did he?
agile spindle
yes
fierce imp
there were pinnacarids there so i'd guess its the sparse arctic
summer kindle
Leon didn't put Sparse Arctic there
fierce imp
that was me
cursive vigil
đ€
fierce imp
oh i thought the other rock puncher was a pinnacarid lmao
still looks like it'd be the sparse arctic
fierce imp
yes
agile spindle
why is leon a content mod if he's banned from the discord
fluid lagoon
he has connections
agile spindle
meaning
fluid lagoon
specifically bippity who refused to remove him as a content moderator despite me and dino both thinking he shouldn't be
agile spindle
why
fluid lagoon
why what
agile spindle
why did bip say no
fluid lagoon
because bip is a nerd
agile spindle
@summer kindle I have nothing against leon but it complicates communication to have him be a mod who can't see our internal discussions
When EA #1 comes out we're not gonna be able to talk to him easily and it'll be a pain in the ass
stuck pawn
just demote him when EA is out
fluid lagoon
why not now 
agile spindle
yea doesnt make any sense to wait
cursive vigil
Am i supposed to be seeing this?
cinder kestrel
This is #đwiki-discussion , so yes.
fluid lagoon
are we waiting on bippity before we demote leon
agile spindle
yes
fluid lagoon
sad
cursive vigil
cinder kestrel
Except for Private Messages, this channel is for all arguing, debating, discussing, and agreeing, @cursive vigil .
cursive vigil
Okay
stuck pawn
isn't this a majority wanting leon demoted though
cinder kestrel
We have one "neutral" vote from me and no vote from BippityBop.
But it is a majority.
agile spindle
Yea but if it was me I wouldn't want a decision made while I was sleeping
and I want to hear his reasoning anyway
speaking of @fluid lagoon did he give any form of reason?
fluid lagoon
no
agile spindle
he just said no with no follow up?
fluid lagoon
he just kinda ignored it
polar lodge
QUEStion: why isnt the seaglide in the BZ wiki, is that because the seaglide is just a filler. And if that's the case then why are there bugs reported about it lacking noise.
summer kindle
I just gave Leon a role so he can edit stuff since all the pages are protected
agile spindle
@summer kindle the problem is that when it comes to ea release or changes we make across the wiki we canât coordinate with him easily because he isnât in the discord
summer kindle
But when EA is out the pages wonât be protected anyway
agile spindle
i mean are we gonna lift the protections immediately?
summer kindle
Pretty much
agile spindle
then thereâs no reason for him to be content mod
pretty much no one wants him to have a rank
summer kindle
Heâs content mod so he can edit now
agile spindle
yes but why
agile spindle
because it was annoying to have to talk to him through twitch chat
if heâs not in the discoed he shouldnât be a mod
summer kindle
Thereâs a couple of people with the content mod rank that arenât going to have that rank after EA releases
agile spindle
like who
summer kindle
Well half of them donât edit anyway so it doesnât make a difference
agile spindle
so when ea comes out youâll demote him?
summer kindle
Sure
agile spindle
ok
are you gonna have slsbot lift all the protections or is there another way to do it?
summer kindle
Bot
cursive vigil
what's the difference between a contributor and a content moderator anyways?
they seem to do mostly the same things
unless I'm missing something
agile spindle
content mod can delete pages, use rollbacks, and move pages
cursive vigil
interesting
stuck pawn
content mods are basically admins that canât block
cursive vigil
hey can someone help me i can't seem to find the nuclear reactor
sweet hatch
try visit wrecks
cursive vigil
thx dude
sweet hatch
np
cinder kestrel
cinder kestrel
But do we want to think of ourselves as a wiki or a social platform around a wiki?
Either way, the channel name does not help us stay on-topic.
cinder kestrel
@summer kindle We desire your powers to make the world a better place.
summer kindle
I can do that I guess
cinder kestrel
Or you can give Wiki Keepers more authority in this channel, so we can troll with and destroy the universemoderate the channel.
agile spindle
lol idk about that
cinder kestrel
If the latter happened, I'd probably mostly just delete questions and point them to another chat, or the wiki itself.
summer kindle
It is done
wet sand
i'd like to think this would get less people asking unrelated questions in here
summer kindle
Probably too much to hope
cinder kestrel
We will find out.
agile spindle
thanks bip
ornate perch
Can you put this on arctic peeper @summer kindle?
It basically shows the peeper in hand
frail dragon
iirc someone said that we werenât allowed to post anything shown on the dev streams
agile spindle
no we are
stone blaze
in that case can someone update the ribbon plant page to have a description
frail dragon
oh, we are allowed?
stone blaze
frail dragon
i was trying to avoid BZ spoilers and i thought i'd be safe here
nevermind
fluid lagoon
why would you be
frail dragon
idk why i thought that
the thing was i can usually just not look at images but when i was looking at the image i posted it was replaced by some bz picture that was posted right after
idk if you want my below zero wiki domain i could delete it and you could have it
cinder kestrel
Well, at the very least, you are trying to be kind with your offer.
agile spindle
you below zero wiki domain?
cinder kestrel
Something like subnauticabz.wikia.com is my guess.
agile spindle
oh we have a domain on fandom
cinder kestrel
I am fine with our current domain.
The next-best possibility is subnauticabelowzero.fandom.com, I guess, but ours is good.
frail dragon
mine is subnautica-below-zero.wikia.com
except it should be fandom.com idk its being slow
cinder kestrel
Is it normally fandom.com for that wiki?
agile spindle
not all wikias are migrated to fandom yet
cinder kestrel
See https://community.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Fandom_domain_migration for more information.
frail dragon
i mean it is colour in britain and other places
but is it worth making the change
cinder kestrel
That is not our wiki. Enjoy yourself.
Or I can just go sit in the corner of my well-rounded self . . .
topaz topaz
um
frail dragon
Did the channel name change
heady gulch
its been like that for hours.
agile spindle
yes, so that it more clearly indicates that all discussion should be related to the wiki in order to avoid wasting time
agile spindle
Note: I refrained from adding Boomerang and Eyeye to the navbox/fauna page because they are placeholders
cinder kestrel
They migrated the Below Zero wiki to the new domain as well, it seems.
heady gulch
I remember someone brought it up with dottedfish on the subnautica forums the idea of the wiki being migrated off of fandom.
i dont remember the details though, who else here was in that conversation?
I think bippity was in it as well
frail dragon
It seems like the channel name change is working...
heady gulch
@summer kindle do you remember where said person, i forgot their name, proposed where the subnautica wiki could be hosted instead of fandom?
summer kindle
No
heady gulch
It was on the sn forums somewhere. this was a while ago.
heady gulch
Yeah
I feel like the idea isnt a bad one and with this whole fandom changing over pages thing, maybe the wiki should be hosted somewhere else other than fandom.
my concern is would it be a huge difficulty to fully transfer the contents of the wiki over to a new provider.
agile spindle
what does that mean
heady gulch
somewhere that isnt fandom or gamepedia.
I can send you screen captures of the conversation, this was from march last year
heady gulch
fair, moving it over is a lot of work
summer kindle
"The Crashfish becomes aggressive when the player gets too close, and can be identified with its loud âreetâ sound."
agile spindle
reet
cursive vigil
RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTT
minor badge
REEEEEEEEEEEET
agile spindle
itâs time to stop
unreal fiber
poof
bold citrus
So I'm working on voice commands for equipping items, and I'm not sure what in game items i need to include.I want to include every item that is possibly equip-able.
Looking at the WIKI i have the full list of items, but I'm sure many items like crafting tools are non equip-able. I should also mention that I'm new to the game, this is why I'm not sure what items will work or not.
I will be posting my VA profile on the subreddit in a few weeks when its complete. Thanks for the help.
agile spindle
whatâs the question?
cinder kestrel
The possible questions I have thought of:
What items can be equipped to the hotbar?
What items can be equipped to the Paperdoll UI?
agile spindle
we seem to be wholly unable to decide on infobox structures
it doesnt help that leon keeps changing things without asking
stuck pawn
I'm assuming you'll need help
agile spindle
for fauna specifically
Then I'll do flora
Who's morphguy and mesmerized on the wiki?
morphguy is dino right?
stuck pawn
transcribe it the way it is
agile spindle
arrow ray has 3 different mistakes lol
stuck pawn
it's like that on the SN wiki
agile spindle
kk
stuck pawn
if it's corrected then we can change it
stuck pawn
how much of this would begin to pertain to the base game wiki? eg. renaming the precursors to the almanac
summer kindle
I was planning on just not doing that for the base game wiki
agile spindle
yea lets keep only info on SN wiki that you can get from SN
stuck pawn
well the link at the top of almanac is broken then
summer kindle
Make a redirect on the base wiki
So arctic boomerang probably doesnât and wonât exist
agile spindle
brinewing and discus dont either
i think it's just stuff theyve started working on
tough garden
tueman your a wiki keeper can we get the name of 4546b changed to charles? thanks
agile spindle
...I assume you are jokingly asking that
In which case I ask you to stop because this channel isn't for jokes
tough garden
dang ok and yeh i was joking
frail dragon
@agile spindle How did you get that .json file...?
i'd like to view the one for the base game
if possible
fierce imp
the one for the base game is in the files
fierce imp
it's just called English.json
agile spindle
tom linked a cipher for it on twitter and i cracked it
frail dragon
hmm
heady gulch
I saw the Re-inforced dive suit data bank entry image and its pretty low quality.
is there any way to get a higher resolution version?
agile spindle
take it from the game files
heady gulch
hmm that I dont know how to do. Should I just make a checklist of the databank entry images that have a low resolution?
agile spindle
if you want
frank copper
so your sure the moons have no names
stuck pawn
yes
cinder kestrel
@Obraxis#1701 If you had to name the moons in orbit around Planet 4546B, what would you call them?
And now, for our daily dose of entertainment from spam . . .
agile spindle
is this what you meant by posing with the picture
fierce imp
should we have a data boxes page
fierce imp
i'll add it then
cinder kestrel
I was referring to posing with the prompt to remove the comment/thread visible and the reason already written in, but I suppose that is also posing.
agile spindle
ahhh i see
agile spindle
sometimes I can't tell what statement you're making
cinder kestrel
Nor I, you. Actually, disregard that sentence.
In this case, you said "ahhh i see," which related to how I assumed you were not blind earlier.
Hmm.
Maybe you guys are right: there is no rule against protecting every page, it seems.
agile spindle
you sound like a character from Ace Attorney
cinder kestrel
I mean, it does say to not do what we are doing ( https://www.wikia.com/Community_Creation_Policy#Public_editing ), but FANDOM staff either does not mind or does not care.
agile spindle
nor does the founder's opinion carry more weight in disagreements than any other user's opinion.
cute
besides it'll become public when there's actually stuff to add
cinder kestrel
We are holding true to that sentence in the first wiki.
Dottedfish is the founder, and his/her opinion now carries no weight.
The Below Zero wiki, however . . . eh. We seem fine.
agile spindle
I mean I would listen to him more than the average random
cinder kestrel
I would not listen. I would read his/her messages, though, but not listen.
Terrible jokes aside, he/she has not contributed in about 44 months.
agile spindle
Yea but he was smart enough to hand off the wiki instead of abandoning it completely when his hype died out
cinder kestrel
Anyway, I think I will work on some template documentation now.
Not that we need documentation or anything, but I might as well.
Nevermind, it is too boring.
agile spindle
lol
ornate belfry
who has hamachi and nitrox i can play with someone on coop
heady gulch
Question. I remember mention that images taken of the dev streams cannot be placed on the wiki?
agile spindle
Awesomecrunch asked and Obraxis said he could use the footage from the playtest stream
so i think it's okay
heady gulch
Hm alright. Just making sure, because the image in the snowfoxâs gallery looks like itâs taken from a dev stream. Pardon my ignorance if Iâm wrong about that
agile spindle
No it does say on Klegran's stream that you can't use the stream contents, but Obby said it was ok
heady gulch
Alright, I remember someone asking about placing an image of the arctic peeper from a dev stream onto the wiki and being declined Im this chat
agile spindle
by obby?
heady gulch
Lee23 said it canât be done, you corrected him, but the conversation sorta dropped after that.
heady gulch
Pretzellemon95 uploaded the pic in this channel, Iâm on mobile so I canât open images through the search feature
frail dragon
Once i added several images to the cut content page
For no apparent reason someone removed the part about basalt outcrops but the images still remain there
And I just cannot edit on mobile, itâs awfully hard and tedious
heady gulch
Hmm ill see what I can do
frail dragon
A revert could work even though there was one minor change since
fierce imp
its back now
fierce imp
probably just random vandalism
heady gulch
Was removed by Lilcrabbyboi. No explanation given. They then added an extra sentence about what they thought the drill item would have been used for. No reason to removal of the basalt outcrop given
frail dragon
Maybe they didnât know it was removed? Afaik it was removed somewhat recently
And also
Why have the basalt outcrop drops changed since their removal
cinder kestrel
If 15 months ago is "somewhat recently," then yes.
heady gulch
Oh thanks for getting a high quality data entry pic for the reinforced dive suit Vivi
fierce imp
i stole it from the russians
heady gulch
Lol I noticed
Acid mushroom, bulb bush, Bulbo tree, Chinese potato, lantern tree, marble melon plant, cove tree. Thatâs a list of flora that could use an update to data bank image
frail dragon
What is up with this russian wiki
Is there only an English and Russian one or are there more
cinder kestrel
fluid lagoon
the russian wiki exists so we can steal from it
frail dragon
Error 404
summer kindle
The Russian wiki is weird
frail dragon
Yes mobile
cinder kestrel
summer kindle
Their layout is strange
They also have some info box images that are like, 2-3 years old
frail dragon
They used this ancient image that is the first thing that comes up when you type âSubnautica fishâ
I wish that wasnât the first thing that came up because my friend called the crashfish âcrashâ and other fish their former names
agile spindle
There's a french and portuguese wikia i believe
tough garden
when you click the image on google it takes you to the english one
heady gulch
Welp according to smartmotion the Russian community is just about dead
fluid lagoon
i thought smartmotion was dead
summer kindle
Is he not
agile spindle
american wins again suck it russia
heady gulch
Yeah, smart motion retired
cinder kestrel
Yes, we can.
fluid lagoon
fellas
agile spindle
Should we move Guidelines to a help page
fluid lagoon
we need to discuss how to go about differentiating something on the BZ wiki
agile spindle
thanks for stealing my thunder vee
cinder kestrel
I would rather move it to the Subnautica: namespace.
agile spindle
what a power trip
wet sand
wdym by "differentiating something"
cinder kestrel
Wait ThunderStar321 belonged to tueman?
fluid lagoon
anyway the point is the upper section of Alien Research Site Zero is the Shield Base
agile spindle
SLS what
fluid lagoon
we already have a shield base card because we thought it was something different
should we keep that page or merge the shield base with the alien research site zero page
wet sand
imo merge
fluid lagoon
ok
but i think in the future we'll have to find a better way to separate them considering the lower section is beginning game and the shield base is endgame
cinder kestrel
thanks for stealing my thunder vee
Vee stole your ThunderStar321.
agile spindle
@cinder kestrel Subnautica: counts towards the article total of the wiki
fluid lagoon
people trying to look up something from the first 3 minutes of gameplay will find something at the very end
wet sand
you know vee i'd hate to bring up Hollow Knight in front of you but the Radiance page on the hollow knight wiki has a separator between base and Godmaster versions by a symbol and a big text box that says "The following is Godmaster content"
so maybe something similar could be done
agile spindle
Which is what we should've done with below zero content but dont @ me
fluid lagoon
well below zero is its own game so
wet sand
^
fluid lagoon
no because i'm not paying attention anyway
cinder kestrel
Subnautica: counts towards the article total of the wiki
That namespace does not add to the article count . . . ?
cinder kestrel
I just tested it on another wiki, and it does not.
agile spindle
I just tested it on SN and it absolutely did count
number went up in front of my earlobes
Besides seems inconsistent to have one page under the namespace when we have a perfectly good namespace in use
cinder kestrel
Aha, I found the issue.
You created the article Subnautica:Guidelines.
The namespace is Subnautica Wiki.
Subnautica Wiki:Guidelines is what I am thinking of doing.
agile spindle
Sure but again, single use namespace
unless there's more to add we should stick to Help:
fluid lagoon
fluid lagoon
oh right because i moved that from the last paragraph
wet sand
don't forget the giant text box that says spoilers
cinder kestrel
Eh . . . eh.
agile spindle
the entire wiki is spoilers right now
cinder kestrel
I thought we deleted {{Extraspoiler}} though./
wet sand
these aren't your average everyday spoilers
these are advanced spoilers
agile spindle
hm I like the idea of using the Subnautica Wiki: namespace
okay lets do it
What's the namespace on BZ?
cinder kestrel
agile spindle
big smart
cinder kestrel
Twice--or thrice, if you also count finding the namespace.
At first I thought you meant I was smart for beating you on both wikis at moving the guidelines.
agile spindle
god that looks ugly
next subnautica game I need to have a serious chat with bip about wiki management
cinder kestrel
I found something even uglier.
atomic yew
agile spindle
You'll have to be more specific
cinder kestrel
You know, the one I just deleted.
certain comment
But that is so specific. Do you know how few comments there are?
It's about a dozen a day, which adds up to -2.3 comments per year.
agile spindle
math checks out
cinder kestrel
But I wonder who posted this, and what it said . . .
(Just forget how to find out and all will be well)
agile spindle
Did you accidentally comment your deletion purpose on a page?
cinder kestrel
We had this.
Then I needed a cover-up.
So I made a comment for me to delete, and everybody would assume I had found some "even uglier" spam and never give it a second thought.
agile spindle
speaking of deleting comments I saw you edited out swearing from someone's comment the other day
don't do that
just delete it
agile spindle
Go commit ethical horrors on your own wiki
cinder kestrel
ethical horrors
Explain.
agile spindle
changing someone's comment to make it seem like they said something they didn't is quite unethical
cinder kestrel
First we had completely differing viewpoints back in https://discordapp.com/channels/85342800492634112/188459887200698368/533878788459724807 , and now we differ about editing comments to clean them.
Uh, give me a few minutes to defend myself.
agile spindle
I didn't say deleting unused stuff was a bad idea
i said it was a waste of time
and this is wayyy different
cinder kestrel
I didn't say deleting unused stuff was a bad idea
We may use those templates in the future
agile spindle
oh i did say that
well I trust past me more than present me
he is historically wiser
cinder kestrel
Smart.
agile spindle
Anyway, comments are seen by everyone
There was a scandal on reddit a while back cause the CEO was editing users' comments for fun
Humans are notoriously unable to draw a line between justice and self-indulgement
It's less messy, much safer, and more ethical to delete comments rather than "fixing" the bad parts
cinder kestrel
But deleting comments means deleting all the good they (rarely) contain.
agile spindle
too bad for them
cinder kestrel
"How about no."
agile spindle
They can post an entire novel on why reefbacks are accurate representations of real life biology but if I see the word "fuck" in there it's getting canned
cinder kestrel
Why?
agile spindle
they can repost it without breaking the rules anyway
cinder kestrel
Not if you delete it.
agile spindle
History is available to everyone
cinder kestrel
Not deleted history, unless I went insane and started believing only admins can view deleted history.
agile spindle
I'm pretty confident history is public information
cinder kestrel
I tried, and I cannot.
Normally, as an admin, I would do https://minecraft-wii-u-edition.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Undelete?target=Test .
Now, when you delete a comment, the default deletion reason is "content was: ..." Which shows at least the beginning of it.
agile spindle
I'm not saying you can undelete, but you can view it
cinder kestrel
Can you view the history of the page I linked to?
I cannot figure out how to.
fluid lagoon
the precursor bounty page is gonna be fun
agile spindle
whys that
fluid lagoon
idk it just seems like an interesting page that we'll have to write
agile spindle
what even are bounties
fluid lagoon
you scan random precursor fragments in exchange for supply drops
agile spindle
sounds exhilirating
frail dragon
I couldâve sworn I found this in the dunes https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/Vehicle_Upgrade_Console
vagrant spruce
agile spindle
you people dont even bother reading the channel names do you
cinder kestrel
As I interpret it, Lee23 was implying we should double-check and consider updating the article.
black potato, on the other hand--you are right about that.
agile spindle
yea wasnt talkin about lee
solar aspen
wait
isnt there a dense kelp forest biome?
i swear its in between the mountain and safe shallows
agile spindle
All the kelp forests are under the same name
fierce imp
it's just the kelp forest with darker water
solar aspen
and more green
agile spindle
not sure thats worth its own designation
solar aspen
true
summer kindle
We have a section describing it on the page for Kelp Forest
cursive vigil
Very big spoilers!!! Read this at your own risk!!!
Here is the full Below Zero story. All data entries for Story parts and Fauna: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SpLkqLtEego28xZI7h-Uw70E_9wUnm3aQfrT7ljvFRU/edit?usp=drivesdk
cursive vigil
You can create new pages for: Weather Station, Unobtanium (maybe later) and Slime (maybe later)
And rename pages: Arrow ray -> Isosceles ray,
Nootfish - > Noot fish and
Bloom plankton - > Bloom (maybe)
summer kindle
Unobtanium and Slime were present in the first game, theyâre just hangovers
Was Arrow Ray not already renamed
It wasnât
Fantastic
frail dragon
Wait uh I made the weather station page then it got deleted
Because I think someone said it was cut content
summer kindle
Weather station was cut according to favro
They just havenât removed it from English.json yet
frail dragon
Oh
warm drum
wait why is the Bleeder not on the Kelp Forest page? Or am I just blind?
summer kindle
They may have been removed
A bunch of us can remember seeing Bleeders in that biome in the past but recently we were unable to find any
agile spindle
was leaving voice actor out of matthew marsh's pagename intentional?
summer kindle
no
agile spindle
How come Shallow/Deep Twisty are the same page if Normal/Deep Grand Reef are different
summer kindle
I wanted to separate them once but was outvoted
agile spindle
by whom
fluid lagoon
i don't even remember this vote
summer kindle
Maybe it was just uncertainty
summer kindle
Yeah they were gonna have to be separate eventually
agile spindle
...let's do it now rather then later
Although, what about thermal vents?
same treatment?
fluid lagoon
that was also temporary
ocean ridge, purple vents, and tree spires are all separate
summer kindle
Those zones don't even properly exist in game yet
summer kindle
yeah
agile spindle
same for crystal caves i guess
summer kindle
I doubt those two will even be distinct areas
agile spindle
Are deep twisty caves technically?
summer kindle
no
kindred harbor
There are caves, evidenced in one of the streams but I think itâs not solely a cave technically
summer kindle
It's a canyon
There are caves within both the Twisty Bridges and Deep Twisty Bridges
summer kindle
yet to see if they're a distinct area, unlikely because all of them are very small
kindred harbor
Theyâre not separate biomes like the lava zones and the lost river I donât think though
summer kindle
how do you make a disambiguation page
we need one for TB and DTB
wait I got it
why is our disambig template the worst thing ever
agile spindle
can you get rid of the white bar
agile spindle
how come?
summer kindle
I'm sure there's a way but I don't know what it is
ok I didn't realise ---- created that
agile spindle
nice
btw everything with the Twisty Bridges category should have Shallow Deep or both
summer kindle
Deep already existed so just change everything with the Twisty Bridges category
summer kindle
I guess we need to add pages for the Stalker and Rabbit Ray also for as long as they remain in the Lilypads
agile spindle
did they show lilypads?
summer kindle
agile spindle
how old is that
thorny tinsel
agile spindle
we can probably wait to see if theyre still there
frail dragon
i noticed we dont have much information of the lore of the sparse reef and why it's sparse... anyway, the sparse reef page is pretty short
now idk if that is necessary but if anyone does know I'd think that would be a good change
stuck pawn
what lore is there for the sparse reef anyways
stuck pawn
do you have evidence
agile spindle
trivia is not for theories
frail dragon
oh
heady gulch
Hm well
The cinematic launch trailer featured what we could assume was the sparse reef in the ending scenes
stuck pawn
when Bart was there? looked like the crash zone or safe shallows
summer kindle
Yeah I have always assumed that was the Crash Zone
heady gulch
Yeah that would make sense with the transition
But thatâs because it wouldnât have been as good if they showed the aurora crashing in the background
summer kindle
source: you
agile spindle
heady gulch
No itâs just an educated guess.
stuck pawn
looks like the crash zone to me
heady gulch
Fair enough
Well With that out of the picture. There isnât much to generally put in there
wet wagon
So he's saying the sparse reef page seems sparse...
summer kindle
Woah
stuck pawn
epic joke
agile spindle
so someone changed Maida's status to "alive" even though this isn't really information you can get from Subnautica (on the SN wiki)
fluid lagoon
undo it
frail dragon
my favorite quote from the wiki
The Sea Dragon Leviathan was created as an aggressive reskin of the Sea Emperor Leviathan, though the Sea Emperor Leviathan itself was always intended to be passive.
idk why
inner dock
i mean, who DOESNT love running around lava zones with the added fear of fireballs being thrown at you?
kindred kernel
it is impossible for the ice dragon to look even decent in it's current model
kindred kernel
good, i wasnt. #ventgardenlivesmatter
simple quiver
both are amazing
agile spindle
@summer kindle I'm not at all advocating for merging the wikis (way too much work at this point) but what was the reasoning behind making a new one rather than combining them?
summer kindle
Idk I just donât like having all the stuff on one wiki. It feels messy to me.
agile spindle
Did you take a look at other multi-game wikis like Fallout or Halo?
summer kindle
Iâve seen them yes
agile spindle
huh okay
summer kindle
Itâs more customisable too
agile spindle
that's a good point
summer kindle
I like the general look of the wiki matching each of the games more
agile spindle
That is one thing it has over merging
still I feel it would've been much less work and less confusing for the players if we kept them together
but that is not really an option anymore so w/e
summer kindle
It is but I will fight you
agile spindle
I would only be pushing for it if I thought I had majority support
and I'm certain no one else wants to put in that much work
summer kindle
Sorting that concept art page out would be a hassle
agile spindle
lots of stuff would be a hassle
And the change would be much harder after EA 1 and there's no way we'd have it done in 2 days
frail dragon
meh i dont think the merge is necessary
information on one game might be different in the other and it'll get all confusing
its easier just to use the below zero wiki
agile spindle
well doesnt really matter cause it's not happening
summer kindle
summer kindle
Are those the ones uploaded by Thunder
agile spindle
I got nothin better to do
summer kindle
Did we ever get pictures of the Neptune Rocket or did that guy get offended and leave before he added them
agile spindle
looks empty
steel hull
What.
agile spindle
I'd guess not
fluid lagoon
who
summer kindle
I donât remember his name now
The guy that was making the phasegate page
And got ridiculously hung up on one sentence
That being whether he could say that phasegates were the only thing of their type in the Subnautica universe
It was completely inconsequential but was apparently be all and end all for him
agile spindle
He couldn't get over the fact that he wasn't allowed to put that on the page
idk why
summer kindle
No it was one line and as far as I could tell it has no impact on the rest of the article
fluid lagoon
oh tyrael
summer kindle
We should probably make a phasegate page some time
agile spindle
Is there a way to spawn in juveniles?
got it
i never realized it before but holy moly reefbacks are massive
https://subnautica.fandom.com/wiki/File:RbGP.png new version
ignore that, discord bad
I'm just gonna delete the other two because they don't show anything the other pictures don't
though this is our reefback-player comparison
And I can't see the player
heady gulch
the oxygen tank and high capacity oxygen tank id's arent showing up. looking in the visual editor they are there
agile spindle
so IDs and category that is my fault partially
SLS and I were working to fix the infoboxes and I wanted to remove "tab" and "itemid"
because they were repetitive with "category" and "debugspawn"
I only meant to change them on BZ but he changed both
I changed every page on the BZ wiki but never got around to SN
I'm thinking we just rechange the SN wiki infoboxes
heady gulch
hm
agile spindle
How do y'all get bubbles to go away?
stuck pawn
pretty sure you don't
agile spindle
Most of the other void pictures dont have them
night kind of helps but everything else is hard to see too
@summer kindle can you make IvanDoomy a Wiki Keeper?
fluid lagoon
why...?
agile spindle
He's been pretty active on the wiki
fluid lagoon
sure whatever
hallow basalt
thanks
agile spindle
never crossed my cabesa
Do we need a disambiguation page for the 4 different tanks?
stuck pawn
similarname works fine imo
agile spindle
We did one for twisty bridges
stuck pawn
i don't even know why twisty bridges needs one since it's just two
by that logic one for the grand reef and deep grand reef should exist as well
agile spindle
Good point thunder we need one for that too
stuck pawn
i saw that
agile spindle
no you didnt
agile spindle
If it has three or more similar name pages it should have a disambig
I think we'll probably have a Twisty Bridges Caves in the future so I'll leave that one there for now
stuck pawn
such as
hallow basalt
bone fields cave, grand reef caves
stuck pawn
they exist since they have a biome id
agile spindle
To avoid confusion we try to separate biomes into their own pages
hallow basalt
i suppose there are exceptions right?
stuck pawn
yes
agile spindle
We have a page for those
stuck pawn
no?
hallow basalt
deep sparse reef?
hallow basalt
can we mention spoilers here
agile spindle
yes
agile spindle
different from deep sparse reef?
hallow basalt
i think it was sparsereef_caves
i'd have to check again tho
and the trench behind the aurora in the crash zone has a biome id
stuck pawn
yes crashzone_trench or something
hallow basalt
ye
agile spindle
How different are they from the crash zone/deep sparse? If we don't have pages for them they're probably not worth mentioning/not different enough
hallow basalt
the trench has vac-packs and cyclops parts
i mean the grand reef caves should be part of the grand reef page, like a mention or something
imo
cuz it has almost the same stuff but in abundance as the GR, except for the looks (being narrow)
agile spindle
I don't know if that's true or not but I'll say that if it is I'd rather we make pages for those other 2 biomes than combine cave pages
hallow basalt
by making pages for the other 2 biomes you mean a biome and its caves?
agile spindle
I mean the two examples you used, the sparse reef caves and the trench
hallow basalt
making pages for most biome ids makes sense, but what i really think should be more important is if that page is gonna be more than 1 sentence long and if it's not just add it as a mention similar to what goes on with the crash zone trench on the crash zone page.
agile spindle
No page would ever be 1 sentence long
if anything it would just be the same as another page but with different pictures/slightly different resources
hallow basalt
1 sentence long is an exaggeration ofc. it just makes me a bit confused that cave biomes that barely change or don't have anything very unique get a page. a mention on the main biome page should be enough to keep things clear.
but whatever, it isn't that bad.
agile spindle
it's mostly so people don't get confused about where they are
agile spindle
Does jamintheinfinite not have a discord account
fluid lagoon
he's banned
fierce imp
he was banned
agile spindle
why does bippity harbor these criminals
fluid lagoon
honestly we don't even know why he was banned
agile spindle
oh? lol
hallow basalt
wacky
agile spindle
Still I can't be biased so he should probably lose the content moderator role too for the same reason as leon
stuck pawn
i gave him that since he was somewhat active in the comment sections long ago
fluid lagoon
we didn't even remove leon's content moderator role
bippity kept dodging the question
agile spindle
bip agreed to remove it on release
stuck pawn
no
as in he was active and could delete comments
agile spindle
No it has some powers
fluid lagoon
what powers
agile spindle
deleting pages, moving pages, rollback
fluid lagoon
i see
stuck pawn
it's basically administrative but you cant block
agile spindle
I'm all for jamin having discussions moderator though
Since that doesn't really ask for any coordination with other editors
stuck pawn
jamin is already a discussions mod on the base game wiki
should carry over to the BZ wiki
wanton spade
Is there a Subnautica command that will make creatures attack you/be aggressive towards even in creative?
wanton spade
Alright, thanks for letting me know.
agile spindle
Does anyone know what PDA entry states kharaa was discovered ~1000 years ago?
agile spindle
I've read every data entry related to precursors and not one says it was discovered or the facilities were build around 1000 years ago
dense jungle
Some scans might have had age approximation. Like fossil (dragon leviathan skelleton) or building scans
elder raven
The sea dragon skull was stated to be around 1000 years old and by that time the kharaa disease research was still ongoing
stuck pawn
Extinction Event: Soil samples from 1,000 years ago contain 300% higher concentrations of organic remains than the soil average. Data supports a mass extinction event killing off a majority of species and forcing rapid adaptation amongst many of the survivors.```this is fossil data from the ATP
agile spindle
Doesn't say either one was caused by kharaa
stuck pawn
almost like that's when kharaa broke out or something tueman
elder raven
but the research was still ongoing when the sea dragon hit the building
and thats when the kharaa spread
1000 years ago
agile spindle
Yes but where does it say that's when kharaa broke out
elder raven
the data logs in the building says it initiated the quarantine procedure when the dragon hit the building
and not every single specimen was killed
so it obviously spread
agile spindle
where does it say it was destroyed 1000 years ago
stuck pawn
why are you asking
agile spindle
I'm trying to pinpoint about how old the frozen leviathan is
And we know it had kharaa so it must have been around sometime after kharaa was released
Except no sources say when kharaa was released
stuck pawn
Something in the environment has helped to preserve these remains, but calcium decay suggests an approximate time of death one thousand years ago. Bone growth suggests the creature was in the egg-laying stage of its lifecycle.```for the sea dragon skeleton
agile spindle
all of these deaths could have been kharaa but we're not positive they are
stuck pawn
the extinction event 1000 years ago which also coincides with kharaa's outbreak
elder raven
Leviathan detected at facility perimeter, closing at high speed.
Exterior anchor cable impacted with massive force. Exterior anchor system buckling, facility sinking. Collision with sea floor.
Breaches detected in containment unit 7 (leviathan eggs).
Immediate specimen destruction protocol initiated. 314 specimens destroyed. 1 specimen unaccounted for.
Evacuating staff to off-site sanctuaries.
Planetary quarantine protocol initiated at the following sites: Ground-to-air Quarantine Enforcement Platform; Power Plant; Primary Containment Facility.
WARNING: Infected individuals may not leave the planet.```from the damage report when the sea dragon hit the facility
agile spindle
You can't say it coincides with kharaa's outbreak if you can't prove kharaa happened 1000 years ago
elder raven
the kharaa research was still ongoing at the time when the sea dragon hit
stuck pawn
i just did?
the sea dragon attacked the facility 1000 years ago
the destruction of the DRF is what released kharaa
agile spindle
How do you know
elder raven
approximate time of death one thousand years ago
stuck pawn
elder raven
from the sea dragon skeleton
agile spindle
Is it the same sea dragon?
elder raven
yes
stuck pawn
yes
stuck pawn
yes
elder raven
'Leviathan detected at the perimeter' ~ from damage report
'Clear trauma to the skull' from the sea dragon
and they were practically right next to eachother
so yeah
elder raven
yeah its fine
lofty saffron
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summer kindle
@agile spindle
agile spindle
thatâs the replacement i took dummy
summer kindle
You need a controller connected to your PC
summer kindle
No, you go into the pause menu, press the left and right shoulder buttons and that unlocks an extra developer console section in the pause menu
You can switch off some graphical settings in there that you canât normally
agile spindle
this is the first im hearing of this
I can handle the retakes, ive got a usb controller
summer kindle
Alright go for it
Just go into paint or something and put black over the brain coral bubbles too
agile spindle
doesn't seem to work
the bumpers right?
oh i got it, had to enable the controller first
how do you hide shoals?
summer kindle
I just go into paint and colour black over them
cinder kestrel
Beyond the five settings?
agile spindle
the five settings...?
cinder kestrel
You can press 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 to adjust the speed.
agile spindle
oh
cinder kestrel
I think those are the hotkeys.
agile spindle
thanks
cinder kestrel
Anyway, it seems you gave Senisa25 a one-year block on the wiki.
Classic mistake. I play global-block card, getting the user blocked indefinitely across all of FANDOM. I win.
cinder kestrel
Praise me for my meaningless accomplishment. For I am an eight-year-old who thinks my own gibberish is cool.
Or not.
https://www.wikia.com/Terms_of_Use
"[You agree not to use the service to p]ost or transmit any content that is obscene, pornographic, abusive, offensive, profane, or otherwise violates any law or right of any third party, or content that contains homophobia, ethnic slurs, religious intolerance, or encourages criminal conduct;"
agile spindle
sounds like a real blow though, banning them across ALL wikis
but that guy does deserve it
okay I uploaded the new pictures
@cinder kestrel how do you global-block? typing it in the expiry doesnt work
summer kindle
That sounds like something you need to send a request to Fandom for
agile spindle
seems like more work than it's worth
kindred kernel
what did the person do?
agile spindle
dont worry about it
cinder kestrel
I spent two minutes sending an email to FANDOM staff, and they will spend two minutes replying and globally blocking the user.
Imagine if admins for local communities could block globallyânobody would be left alive . . .
agile spindle
2 minutes so that they donât bother others đ€
agile spindle
i think it would be productive if we divied up sections of the wiki for people to focus on on release
that way we donât all edit random stuff and lose work
agile spindle
leon wants biomes
wet sand
hehe
late island
Leon isn't a wiki keeper.
stuck pawn
Leon isn't in the discord
agile spindle
leon will edit whether we want to or not
stuck pawn
Besides when he gets demoted he'll probably leave
late island
Not until we open the wiki to the public.
late island
Maybe we can open it on the 31st to give the wiki keepers more time to get everything in order.
stuck pawn
That'd work better
astral shard
What wiki do you open on 30th?
summer kindle
Sure
stuck pawn
BZ wiki
summer kindle
Below Zero
agile spindle
if we do that might as well demote jamin and leon now
agile spindle
bz wiki is separate
agile spindle
so uh if we are separating up sections iâll take fauna
dino said he wants biomes
fierce imp
iâll do resources i guess
stuck pawn
i can do flora
frail dragon
Iâll do nothing
Well I would help out if I could but 1 the wiki is protected and 2 idk if Iâm the best wiki editor
fluid lagoon
dino said it's my turn on the xbox
i'm doing structures
frail dragon
Do we have a page on the intro sequence?
fluid lagoon
we don't even have a page on the first game's intro sequence why do we need one
frail dragon
Idk
stuck pawn
why would the intro sequence need a page
summer kindle
@agile spindle I kinda already have fauna pics for everything
Well, not in their natural biomes I guess
But I have all three size-view, front-view etc shots
cinder kestrel
What is left to do?
frail dragon
Vandalism moderation
cinder kestrel
At least, left to be assigned--I suppose so, Lee23, but not until everything is unlocked--for the day of release.
Structures are taken.
Flora,
biomes, resources, and fauna are claimed.
For release day, I will not be available until about five hours after release.
frail dragon
Anything about the supply rockets or whatever
cinder kestrel
I do not know.
fluid lagoon
the exchanger rocket is a structure
cinder kestrel
Well, SLSbot can probably handle un-protecting everything.
As for me . . .
fluid lagoon
we're unprotecting things on the 31st
cinder kestrel
Yes.
frail dragon
what about coral
cinder kestrel
We could probably merge that with whoever does fauna, or maybe flora, or something else.
agile spindle
bip iâll do information and in-biome shots
fluid lagoon
isn't in-biome shots what dino is doing
summer kindle
In biome shots of fauna
fluid lagoon
fug
frail dragon
why do we have such little information on the developers
and what happened to this page https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Jonas_Bötel_(Developer)
fluid lagoon
looks normal to me
frail dragon
is there anything worth making here because i have redlinkaphobia
cinder kestrel
Speaking of the bot, I am going to go ahead and request a flag, since the request BippityBop made four weeks ago got denied.
Hopefully, being the owner of the bot instead of an administrator of the wiki, I will have more success.
Hopefully.
cinder kestrel
Hey, Tueman, any more tasks that need doing?
I created https://subnautica-belowzero.fandom.com/wiki/Subnautica:_Below_Zero:To-Do_List temporarily to keep track of the jobs.
agile spindle
bippity is uploading void shots for fauna