Update the description then
#šwiki-discussion
summer kindle
tardy turtle
the only place i did find that was english.json
tardy turtle
well there is no place for it to say that rly. cos you can't pickup the coral itelf, only the samples which are different objects
what about shell plate tho?
i did add it as a source for tube coral samples
based on the location i gave you
summer kindle
Well if the coral itself doesnāt have a description it does not need one on the page
Remove it and leave it on the sample page
tardy turtle
sorry, i dont understand what to remove and what to leave exactly and where. remove the info about shell plate being a source for tube coral sample from Coral_Shell_Plate?
tardy turtle
even tho what i described here https://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/Coral_Shell_Plate is atypical?
frail dragon
Iāve never been able to break those
summer kindle
Just make sure you mention that not all of them can be broken
And it seems to be an error
frail dragon
Tbh i donāt recall even seeing them
autumn comet
You can use ti to make Water tho
summer kindle
It might just be more suitable as a trivia point rather than a statement at the start of the page
frail dragon
It took a while for this to even get noticed
summer kindle
It mostly comes from coral tubes
Wait Tyrael that coral shell plate you posted isnāt even the same thing as the one that the page is about
Thatās a completely different object
That for some reason has the same name
frail dragon
Iāve never even seen that in the game
tardy turtle
same as what you spawn with the spawn name
frail dragon
Actually iirc they grow on the coral tubes
summer kindle
Ok well clearly thereās a mismatch here
tardy turtle
you also get something that is different from what the page shows
summer kindle
And that means what
tardy turtle
"Thatās a completely different object
That for some reason has the same name"
summer kindle
So the spawn name given on the page spawns this?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/188459887200698368/530041164469108775/Subnautica_2019-01-02_16-12-46-76.png
tardy turtle
lemme do a screenie
summer kindle
Yes or no would have done fine
tardy turtle
thats what spawn coralshellplate spawns
not exactly what screenshots on the coral shell plate page shows
tardy turtle
š
tbh im not sure how to categorize it
cos sure as hell spawn coralshellplate doesnt spawn what it's supposed to
and spawn 3025 and spawn coralshellplate both spawn the exact same object: Slanted Shell Plate
summer kindle
We just have to find the numerical spawn name for the other corals then
tardy turtle
i bet up to this point no one was dumb nough to spawn the useless shell plates... well no one but me that is š
summer kindle
well I went through the spawn list and couldn't find them
tardy turtle
oh, can i see the list tho? š
hushed hollow
lol guys i have recently found out about this thing called console and commands and i cant stop myself from cheating š
tardy turtle
you're ruining your fun tho, but it's up to you
hushed hollow
Ik ik
cinder kestrel
I think https://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/User:XXxN!993rF4gg0tPWN69xXx craves a swing of the ban hammer.
stuck pawn
thank you SLS
cinder kestrel
That is not all.
thorn notch
The name might be telling
cinder kestrel
(I sent a Private Message to Tyraelpl)
kindred kernel
@tardy turtle wut wuz it
tardy turtle
nothing beyond what's been already stated as the ban reason on the wiki which i clearly missed š
does Medical Kit Fabricator consume energy?
kindred kernel
slscool i found ur comment on the wiki
cinder kestrel
Which one? I have posted many.
kindred kernel
the one on hatching enzymes
it's just kinda cool when you see the same person in 2 different places
frail dragon
ehh
cinder kestrel
Which one? I have posted two.
kindred kernel
the one from edwardsim about being dirty minded
frail dragon
oh yeah... that one
agile spindle
@tardy turtle med kit fabricator doesnt use power
tardy turtle
thank you. plus something seems odd. i started a game in the creative mode and switched to survival
in this setup the medkit fab doesnt need power to produce medkits
agile spindle
thats cause it doesnt need power
agile spindle
I believe so
tardy turtle
one more thing. the wiki states that it is 30 min for each medkit to be made. My simple math says otherwise, 1% takes 6 sec so 100% takes 600 sec and that is exactly 10 min, not 30.
stuck pawn
feel free to change it
tardy turtle
š
tardy turtle
it's wrong š
frail dragon
are you sure its 6 seconds every percent
what if its like 6 then 8 then 9 or something
agile spindle
seems like a dumb way to program it, I doubt they did that
agile spindle
im gonna time it
summer kindle
It probably was 30 minutes then got cut down or something
But they forgot to change the description
tardy turtle
i am sure
agile spindle
most likely
tardy turtle
i measured it like 4 times
and i did use a stopwatch
Despite in-game description stating it takes 30 minutes to fabricate a medkit, it actually takes 10 real life minutes. 1% of progress every 6 seconds. This error in the description is likely an oversight on the Developers' part and likely a leftover from earlier versions of the game.
Trivia part.
agile spindle
the in-game description
summer kindle
the in-game description
frail dragon
is it necessary to put "real life" before "minutes"
tardy turtle
so that there is no confusion about the game time and the real thing
i thought that those 30 min they mention maybe meant the ingame internal time, but who would do that?
that would mean that the ingame clock would run only 3 times faster than in real life
agile spindle
when the sunbeam arrives they say it'd take a week but it's actually 40 minutes
tardy turtle
yeah...
agile spindle
besides that's way too confusing, no way they'd write it with that intention
agile spindle
write "the"
tardy turtle
done
anyone out there with the power to remove pages? I uploaded this, but as it turns out it's already been there but I wan't able to find it.
https://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/File:SelfScanCleanVO.ogg
generally finding ogg files is a pain in the butt
cinder kestrel
You want me to delete the file?
cinder kestrel
Is there?
tardy turtle
?
agile spindle
@tardy turtle why do you keep collapsing the quote and text on top of the infobox in every page
tardy turtle
you mean removing the breaklines? cos when you hit enter in source it is also there when the code is interpreted. collapsing like that maybe makes the source look a bit worse but things are inline when viewing the page.
tardy turtle
no i haven't. maybe you mean something different
agile spindle
yes and it's much more readable in source edit
tardy turtle
"it's completely unreadable in source" and that is not true. unreadable were the infoboxes made as one liners
maybe im just more used to viewing wiki code, dunno
agile spindle
okay not completely unreadable but it's much more legible my way
tardy turtle
you just add needless code tho
agile spindle
it's not needless, it makes it easier to edit
tardy turtle
subjectively yeah. infoboxes are a much bigger issue imho.
tardy turtle
well, everyone has their own viewpoints and editing customs. personally i find it counter productive to add nowiki only to make source look purrrty š
agile spindle
both should be
tardy turtle
i just dont agree with adding needless code for the sake of making source look nice. source should look nice when possible and when there is no sacrifice to be made. imho people who are able to edit source code are kinda expected to able to get around even if there are compromises made. i wont be removing your nowiki tags but i wont put in the extra effort and add it either.
like i said, there are pages in far worse condition readablity wise. i honestly dont see a problem with how I did all those edits.
agile spindle
fair enough
tardy turtle
now here is a thing with which i do need an advice.
to this part https://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/Dialogue#Vehicles I added Neptune VO sound. The other 4 vehicles have the quote and file from this section on their own pages. Neptune however doesn't, it has some other quote. Perhaps i can change the quotes while adding a voice file, so that neptune too has it's "1st time built" voice line?
agile spindle
sounds good
tardy turtle
can someone help me find a good place for https://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/File:AuroraIntroAbandonShip.ogg
on the https://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/Aurora
agile spindle
How about under the crash section?
agile spindle
in the same section i think
tardy turtle
adding those quotes and sound files is hella lot of work
tardy turtle
I so wanna know where are all the files that seem to be missing, so that i could add em all.
cinder kestrel
Don't know if you want to swing the ban hammer or not care at all (I already deleted the comment), but here you go.
heady gulch
first instance of this kind of behavior?
stuck pawn
that's more disturbing than anything
tardy turtle
well... if we're on that kinda topic. this is a legit game file name:
im glad it's hidden tho. otherwise more of such comments might pop up.
stuck pawn
classic simon
cinder kestrel
No, I think that is the first contribution of that user.
But a block is easier than a warning (but harder than ignoring).
wet sand
ācontributionā
sullen cove
hey since the below zero is technically a part of the subnautica wiki(i think) i was looking at the biomes and none says jellyshroom caves
agile spindle
below zero has its own wiki @sullen cove
sullen cove
ya i know but there is no seperate chat for it so i was confused on where i would say that
agile spindle
ah, yea this is the appropriate place
agile spindle
how come the transfuser is in the creative inventory if it was cut?
well as a blueprint i mean
thorn notch
I wondered what happened to that. I heard it was going to be a thing and then never was
Is it in Below Zero?
thorn notch
Sweet
summer kindle
The thermometer is also in the creative inventory and so are lithium ion batteries iirc
tardy turtle
some seed/parent plant types of things have those separate while others have it on a single page, why? For example both acid mushroom and its spores are on one page but table coral and table coral sample are separate.
thorn notch
Ah I wondered why I couldn't find a Thermometer
cut content
Aww
I could've done with it when setting up my Thermal Plants
bright quail
what direction is bloodkelp 2?
lyric berry
#subnautica-chat , but if by "2" you mean "trench", go west-southwest. it's connected to a grassy plateau
summer kindle
Blood Kelp 2 not the trench
shy dirge
As I'm drained in other chats, I'm asking here. Does anyone know what language the game was written in? (Python, C++, etc.).
round cloud
english but it has a few translation options I think
shy dirge
That's.. not what I meant. I meant programming language.
Thus I gave examples of some.
round cloud
what's a program
shy dirge
Just leave it. I'll wait for someone else's reply.
round cloud
nobody can respond to questions seriously these days, I'll just google it then
cinder kestrel
It was made with Unity, and Unity uses C++ (I think).
molten crag
shy dirge
A programming language is what everything computer is made out of. The core is binary (1's and 0's), rising all up to things like CSS, used to make websites look good. Without CSS, only pure HTML would be displayed, resulting in ugly text without styling.
cinder kestrel
Now, go enjoy #subnautica-chat again, please.
cinder kestrel
Now, go enjoy #subnautica-chat again, please.
tardy turtle
im sorry i reuploaded files which have already been on the wiki, please purge https://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion
It consists only of files i uploaded needlessly. My bad, sorry!
agile spindle
unity uses c#
or javascript or a python-like language called boo
but c# is the most common
empty coral
which direction is jellyshroom from safe shallowsx
cinder kestrel
agile spindle
@tardy turtle your file link from your previous edit is broken
tardy turtle
which one?
agile spindle
jellyshroom cave sound file
tardy turtle
easier for me this way
cos i click the red link and page name is already made for me
frail dragon
iiirc you get a warning (not a bad warning but just like a notice) if you upload a file that is identical to something already on the wiki
tardy turtle
I upload files which were identical in contend but likely not on a bit to bit level
and I chose different names
frail dragon
yeah probably when you converted it maybe
tardy turtle
so I got no warning
tardy turtle
otherwise id investigate
i couldnt find it
and they are not in any category
imho there should be a rule to add category to sound files
frail dragon
yeah
tardy turtle
otherwise they're a b... to find
frail dragon
its really hard to find the .ogg files
like how did you even find the jellyshroom one
the existing one
agile spindle
frail dragon
i asked this a while ago but then the epic games people came and starting spamming questions here and this was never seen
could I add the way the radio message triggers on this page https://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/Destroyed_Lifepods ?
We already have it on the radio page but I thought it'd be useful to include it on the page where there's already a lot of information on the lifepods
frail dragon
what is this...? https://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/File:NeptuneTelemertyOn.ogg
agile spindle
unused sound file i guess
frail dragon
are you sure this is in the game...?
The status of the Aurora's crew, and the ship's long-range comm relay, is indeterminate. Exploring the crash site may provide further information.?
never got that in 300 hours
tardy turtle
this is something i asked to be removed since it's duplicate
which i mentioned like few lines above
frail dragon
do duplicates matter that much tho
agile spindle
tyrael if you want to go through each and every ogg file and mark dupes ill delete them for you
tardy turtle
ill repeat what i said to clear the confusion
im sorry i reuploaded files which have already been on the wiki, please purge https://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Candidates_for_deletion
It consists only of files i uploaded needlessly. My bad, sorry!
this file, Lee mention is one of those files
and i could mark em if i had a full list of oggs on this wiki
frail dragon
why does it say SLS deleted the candidates for deletion page
tardy turtle
Thank you for removing those files!
agile spindle
np
https://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/Special:ListFiles is a list of all files, but not only ogg and i dont see a way to sort
tardy turtle
btw @frail dragon those are the files which play when you turn on each of 6 of Neptunes subsystems
tardy turtle
dont you guys have a bot that could find all the *.ogg and add a category to it?
it's tele metry
agile spindle
@summer kindle
summer kindle
Are you asking me about the bot
agile spindle
yes
tardy turtle
i recall some wikias having such a tool
and it was damn effective
able to mass change hundreds of pages
for example when a template was modrenized
agile spindle
i dont understand how Special:ListFiles doesnt even have a name search function
summer kindle
SLS has a bot on the wiki but weāve never really used it for anything
tardy turtle
wikia logic
agile spindle
bip can we use it to add a category to all .ogg files?
summer kindle
I donāt know. SLS will know.
tardy turtle
if you were to use it, one of the templates has a typo š it could use fixing
summer kindle
Iāve never messed around with bots.
tardy turtle
but i dont fancy changing it by hand on like 300 pages or something
agile spindle
what template
summer kindle
It doesnāt really matter
tardy turtle
i know š
summer kindle
Thatās only in the code
wet sand
now that i know it exists it will haunt me forever
summer kindle
The actual display on the page shows up as acquired
tardy turtle
i know, but it might sometimes introduce problems when you type it by hand and type it correctly š
summer kindle
But we donāt need to use that template for anything new
Thereās nothing to add it to so we donāt need to change it now
Thatās a lot of wasted effort
agile spindle
it's fixed on BZ wiki right
summer kindle
I think I fixed it
frail dragon
why does each sound effect have to have its own part of table of contents and how do i get around this
summer kindle
Yeah I guess I already fixed it when I moved it over
agile spindle
i have
tardy turtle
snark snark
agile spindle
i already edited that out
tardy turtle
it is a wiki question so pls dont redit me from here. how and where does one check hitpoints of vehicles? I ask mainly for adding it or removing it altogether from Neptune page.
summer kindle
I assume the Neptune doesnāt have health at all
tardy turtle
I assume that too, i wanna know though.
summer kindle
We only know the vehicle health values because we were told them by devs
tardy turtle
oooooh... does any of them come in here to ask?
round cloud
em pop...
emp op...
emp...
me?
summer kindle
They wonāt know off of the top of their head and itās more than likely that the Neptune does not have health
agile spindle
why does craftable use tab on BZ and category on subnautica
tardy turtle
stating does not apply is fine then?
frail dragon
i do have some software i used to look at the code when i tried to mod subnautica
could i find it there?
summer kindle
I donāt even know what tab and category apply to
summer kindle
So what does tab apply to and what does category apply to
summer kindle
Because I made them and I didnāt see the point in using both tab and category
frail dragon
i feel like im doing something illegal from viewing the SN code
i hope it isnt
as long as i dont like do anything with it i hope
i wonder what "bulletfish" is
tardy turtle
well you can view all you want, what you cant do is copy it for monetary gain
tardy turtle
nor can you claim it and modify it for the same purpose
thats why I list all the sound files as fair use
cos it is
well all I upload
but since it's unity there might some public parts which you could use
cos it is unity engine and there might be some "assets"
tardy turtle
and it's not like what you are doing is with malicious intent
and often intent is what matters most
as a final argument id say that if the devs had something agains dicing games files they would have said something long ago
like "dont upload game files to wiki"
frail dragon
ok i found some EMP info
the small vehicle (i think) interval is 15 seconds, the cyclops interval is 30 seconds, the range is 10 meters (or whatever measurement it is in), the height is 2 meters (or the other measurement), i think they can see you from 35m away, they swim with a velocity of 10
im not sure if this is 100% accurate tho
agile spindle
thats stuff about the crabsquid?
frail dragon
yeah
agile spindle
what does the interval mean
tardy turtle
cooldown i think
frail dragon
i found "slime" wonder what that could be
agile spindle
doesnt make sense that it'd be different based on the vehicle
tardy turtle
so that it couldnt stunlock you
frail dragon
or "smell"
tardy turtle
it does
frail dragon
what is "smell" in script
tardy turtle
seamoth is more agine
fluid lagoon
sniff sniff
tardy turtle
but cyclops is rather clunky so it has higher cooldown so that it can escape
agile spindle
read the code
frail dragon
this code makes no sense really
i am seeing textures and sprites but nothing else
it looks unfinished almost
agile spindle
@summer kindle sls wants to make sure you're okay with using the bot to mass apply a category
frail dragon
the propulsion cannon shoots with a velocity of 50 multiplied by a certain factor
probably not gonna help anyone though
frail dragon
idk
frail dragon
yes i found reaper files
agile spindle
au/s
tardy turtle
hahahaha
frail dragon
reaper does 15 damage per second to the seamoth
what does the f mean after some numbers tho
cinder kestrel
I would assume "Float."
frail dragon
and what does that mean because i see it on literally everything
agile spindle
you cant write 0.2 because thats a double in c# and some functions wont understand it
tardy turtle
as in floatpoint?
agile spindle
if you write 0.2f it designates the number as a float
frail dragon
why is the reapers agression value 0.0
tardy turtle
cos it's base value?
frail dragon
probably
frail dragon
maybe distance
tardy turtle
thats why you can sneak pass it?
agile spindle
yes light affects how aggressive things are
tardy turtle
or seaglide
frail dragon
ok i think the centrifuge was crafted with 2 titanium
or at least the code shows
nvm i think there were two placeholder items and each was crafted with one titanium?
idk
tardy turtle
put your š on š
frail dragon
i edited the code and im gonna see what happened
round cloud
you're playing god here
frail dragon
nothing happened lol
agile spindle
what did you edit
frail dragon
i tried to add the removed items back to the fabricator like the thermometer
frail dragon
oh yeah
agile spindle
yea ik
bip sls wants to make sure you're okay with using the bot to do mass categories
frail dragon
im trying to make a mod but i gotta test some things out first]
i guess the modding discord would be better
summer kindle
yeah that's fine @agile spindle
frail dragon
oh the reason it didnt work was because i forgot to save
tardy turtle
oh man... finally i think i fixed all the small messes someone left in Dialogue. Someone tried adding things to tables and ended up half breaking them...
frail dragon
these colors need to be fixed https://subnautica-belowzero.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Navbox_Vehicles
unfortunately it seems i was the one that created the page and i am to blame for the colors
agile spindle
cause it's hard to read right?
frail dragon
yeah
frail dragon
probably just the [expand] text color and the vĀ·dĀ·e thing
and also the green on this one is awful https://subnautica-belowzero.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Navbox_Flora
summer kindle
@frail dragon
agile spindle
it's called Arctic Fauna
not sure why
If we're gonna do a namechange now is the time
summer kindle
Oh yeah I just directly ported that one over from the main wiki before we split them
forgot to change the name
agile spindle
kk ill handle it
frail dragon
oh i think i remember doing the arctic fauna page
that was when i constantly edited every non-protected page
agile spindle
lol
summer kindle
@agile spindle Can we just not do all the biome categories until we have a more complete knowledge of the biomes
summer kindle
I considered it but they would be really weird and incomplete at this point
Better to do that when early access comes out
summer kindle
yes
agile spindle
why would we have that
summer kindle
sometimes it just makes the page look ugly
and sometimes it unnecessarily lengthens a page on which all content is already visible
frail dragon
uh would you consider this table of contents ugly
summer kindle
very
ivory hedge
thats a big boy
agile spindle
also this guy isnt on the fauna page for some reason
is he confirmed to be coming back?
summer kindle
It was in some screenshots which doesn't entirely confirm it but it makes sense to keep it
tardy turtle
i kinda miss a slicker quote template š¤
I love how quote2 looks but it takes up so much space. quote is kinda basic and ugly and quote3 kinda meh too š
tardy turtle
yup
you do š
why do I know it but you dont? hahaha
only today i added quote to template category
it is so basic it had none
summer kindle
had idea
agile spindle
@summer kindle fauna page two skyrays
tardy turtle
@summer kindle have you got any idea why quote 2 uses such huge paddings instead of float:left?
agile spindle
i added navbox fauna to all pages and updated the navbox itself
summer kindle
thank you soldier
tardy turtle
ill copy quote2 and fiddle around with it on my page. id rather not break this one
frail dragon
oh wow
cinder kestrel
I asked on the Community Central forums for a quick way to find all of the files. A volunteer developer actually went and found them all (using a program called DPL).
So, you can join in at putting the files at https://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/User:KockaAdmiralac/Sandbox into--say, what are we calling the category?
@agile spindle You asked if I could apply a category to the files. I need to know what the category is.
cinder kestrel
By the way, I hope Special:Recentchanges was not important to you.
summer kindle
sacrifices have to be made
cinder kestrel
You could ask FANDOM to give SLSbot a bot flag, or make a post on the wiki saying that you approve of my asking.
And we are done.
summer kindle
I will do that
cinder kestrel
Which should keep things a bit tidier whenever the bot is used in the future.
summer kindle
I should give it admin perms too probably
cinder kestrel
Only necessary for page deletions, protections, and moves.
You are giving it administrator permissions before I receive them myself. Wow, thanks.
It is okay, though.
Because I forgot to change the edit summary.
summer kindle
I forget how you actually request this
It's been a while since I used it
I remember a thing to request things but forgot where to find it
cinder kestrel
Just send a regular old message.
https://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contact/general should do the trick.
https://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Bots confirms that is the correct method.
agile spindle
nice
agile spindle
@tardy turtle we have a category for all sound files
tardy turtle
thank you all!
agile spindle
thanks @cinder kestrel
tardy turtle
the game itself has over 1500 sound files iirc š
1840 to be exact, weighing close to 4 gigs when unpacked to .wav
tardy turtle
that one is fun Rocket Takeoff.ogg
summer kindle
I was thinking pale blue + white
agile spindle
pale blue border right
summer kindle
yes
frail dragon
I still have nightmares of SLSās bot deleting my templates
summer kindle
god this is ugly
Hang on can we just name both templates the same thing
makes it easier to just copy paste across
summer kindle
new name?
summer kindle
so they're both subnautica link alright
summer kindle
having that many things at the top
agile spindle
i wish they were closer together
summer kindle
who is doing these
I saw them on a few pages but I never bothered to check who did it
cinder kestrel
If you are getting a bot flag for the main game wiki, you may want to get one for the Below Zero wiki as well. Your call, though.
By the way, I have identified six pages with comments.
agile spindle
@tardy turtle https://subnautica-belowzero.wikia.com/wiki/Coffee_Vending_Machine has two broken link files can you upload them to BZ?
cinder kestrel
If they are on the main game wiki, I will take care of it.
(And they are)
Done.
But, if we need to put any copyright information, I will leave you to it.
summer kindle
I requested the bot flag for both wikis at the same time
cinder kestrel
The main wiki loves redirects more. It has 594 redirects with only 481 pages.
The Below Zero wiki has 330 articles (not all pages) and 107 redirects.
agile spindle
it's been up longer
cinder kestrel
I am half-tempted to copy a bunch of redirects over.
Maybe later.
Maybe never.
Muahahah--cough.
agile spindle
most of the pages we have on BZ will be deleted when EA comes out
summer kindle
why?
cinder kestrel
We will discover what original game features are and are not in the new one.
For example, that Coffee Vending Machine--do we know if it will be in the Expansion? Perhaps.
cinder kestrel
Ah.
agile spindle
a lot of the stuff on there wont be in BZ
summer kindle
Such as
agile spindle
idk man not all of it will be in BZ
if i had examples of stuff that wouldnt be we wouldnt have pages on them
cinder kestrel
That makes sense.
summer kindle
there's a serious amount of editing going on right now
and the speed at which tueman is editing tells me that his internet is a lot faster than mine
summer kindle
I am
but the speed that you are doing it shows that you're able to load pages much quicker than me
which isn't hard because my internet is trash
cinder kestrel
But in an internet browser, load times are a lot slower than simpler software (e.g., AutoWikiBrowser) as it only has to load the page text, and none of the HTML/CSS/JS.
That is not a request to help, though, as I am off to bed.
Try not to die, please, in the meantime.
Death is annoying, you lose all your recent items . . .
agile spindle
okay every page is done
unless we have developer/artist pages on the SN wiki because i didnt check those
cinder kestrel
We do.
cinder kestrel
But I thought we "we have developer/artist pages on the SN wiki," though.
Unless there is a hidden context I am missing.
But farewell.
stuck pawn
developer/artist pages are solely on the BZ wiki are they not
agile spindle
yes thats what bip said
stuck pawn
thanks stu
stuck pawn
late
tardy turtle
I was sleeping when you pinged me for the coffee machine
tardy turtle
@summer kindle can i modify extraquote2 template for my needs (or rather page's needs) or shall I make a 5th quote template? š
summer kindle
We donāt need a 5th quote template
tardy turtle
quote2 is used very often and i wont touch that for what i wanna do but Quote and ExtraQuote2 are rather unused
or rarely used
summer kindle
Just modify one of the existing ones
Make sure youāre not messing up any pages theyāre on though
tardy turtle
there was a way to list pages which use a certain object, wasnt there?
Ok got it š
only 2 pages use Quote and both are use pages
so by chance i found this quote... https://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/User:TheyCallMeHalo
fluid lagoon
oh god
summer kindle
Thatās also the guy who made those templates
fluid lagoon
i had completely forgotten about spy
tardy turtle
š
is he now?
fun dude š
he made extraquote2
Yayieali seems to be the original author of quote2
summer kindle
Yayieali is the author of many things
agile spindle
@summer kindle I saw a bug report referring to the jellyshroom area on favro
it had a picture of blue jellyshrooms as well
agile spindle
how do you know
late island
Considering certain factors I'd probably trust him on this.
agile spindle
what's morphguy's discord?
late island
me
summer kindle
Dinofuzz
agile spindle
can we like talk to me before undoing the work i spent hours on
late island
I'd wait and see what all makes it into early access first.
Also you just copied and pasted that page from the other wiki.
summer kindle
to be fair I did that with all pages
agile spindle
yea but i had to fix broken links and everything as well
late island
Yeah so it wouldn't take much work.
agile spindle
it took more than you'd think
late island
There are five links on that page, most of which should seemingly work with the Below Zero wiki.
agile spindle
have you considered the photos and icons I had to cross-upload? and the fact that I had to edit the entire page to make sure only relevant info was on it?
late island
But anyway I think we should at least wait until Early Access before adding returning fish.
Or we might as well just add them all on there.
agile spindle
for the hoopfish i saw a card about audio for the hoopfish
under Early Access #1 - Done
late island
Oh ok.
agile spindle
okay? so ask first don't just delete and ask questions later
that goes for you too bippity
summer kindle
what did I do
agile spindle
I'm gonna take your word on the jellyshroom cause I don't want to redo it again
summer kindle
agile spindle
still
late island
still?
He has Below Zero and talks to devs.
But also, what's this thing?
Feels unnecessary.
agile spindle
i was intending on having on the BZ wiki only for people who wanted more info on a certain page
bip thought it would be good to have both so we added it across the board
summer kindle
Dino we spent too long adding those leave them pls
late island
Or at least that feels more like something that'd go at the bottom of the page.
fluid lagoon
why are the colors so ugly
late island
That's easy enough to fix.
agile spindle
it's subnautica colors
late island
Not really.
agile spindle
@late island We put the template across EVERY page that was on both wikis
there are hundreds
if you want to make that change for all of them be my guest
late island
I'm just experimenting right now.
But I do think it makes more sense at the bottom rather than the top, since that's where similar links and such are.
agile spindle
similar link is at the top
late island
No like the links that are similar to that link.
agile spindle
the navbox
summer kindle
wouldn't make much sense to have that at the bottom of the page
agile spindle
every wiki I've been on had it at the top
late island
Maybe it just needs a better look.
agile spindle
people would look for it there i think
if you want to change the colors that's totally fine
cinder kestrel
I requested the bot flag for both wikis at the same timeOnly one wiki has the bot flag for SLSbot. Might be because the bot only edited on the main wiki and has done nothing on the Below Zero wiki.
summer kindle
both requests were acknowledged so I guess that's why
late island
Might go back and change it but I made the template have the same colors as the similar name one.
Also there are three variants of the template now. (Though there was probably an easier way to go about that)
agile spindle
what about pages with both templates
summer kindle
what is the third one for
agile spindle
I'm not a fan of having it use the same colors as another template
summer kindle
late island
I was planning on changing it.
agile spindle
well you did change it, away from the original colors
late island
Another change.
agile spindle
kk
there is also the same template on SN wiki, if you want to add your two alt versions there as well and change the colors
late island
Done.
agile spindle
i like the new colors
summer kindle
yeah they work with the pages much better
late island
Basically SubnauticaLinkThe is like SubnauticaLink but for things with the in front of their names, and SubnauticaLink2 is is meant to flow with SimilarName, should those be on the same page (can be seen on the SN wiki's Hoopfish page).
agile spindle
i see
summer kindle
agile spindle
yea so putting a name in with spaces breaks the template
late island
hec
agile spindle
couldnt figure out how to fix that
well I could have the first parameter be a name=pagename but i think that would require being changed on every instance of the template
agile spindle
i mean every time it's used
late island
Oh you'd have to change the name used on the article.
agile spindle
no if I require a parameter with a name like name=pagename i THINK i have to change the usage of it to putting SubnauticaLink|name=pagename instead of just SubnauticaLink|pagename
otherwise it wouldnt recognize it
summer kindle
but it only needs changing on pages that do have names with more than one word
agile spindle
like half of them
summer kindle
Ok if you want to go down one list I'll go down the other
agile spindle
that requires making 3 more templates on each wiki
summer kindle
Oh ok we'll do the lot then
agile spindle
basically instead of SubnauticaLink|Hoopfish you have to write SubauticaLink|name=Hoopfish
lemme test it first to make sure that fixes it correctly
agile spindle
huh that actually doesn't work
it still can't recognize multiple words as one parameter
agile spindle
okay so what I did was change the parameter to it just taking the pagename
so we dont have to change anything at all
BUT yesterday i noticed some pages have different names on each wiki
and that will result in broken links
not many but i only remember one such page
actually I'm lying because it's still not working
what the hell
summer kindle
summer kindle
can you apply the same change to SubnauticaLinkThe
agile spindle
in the future it will still require writing the name as SubnauticaLink|pagename
actually no it wont
it'll just take the pagename
okay yea
you can just {{SubnauticaLink}} or any version of that and it'll take the pagename and link it
should be changed for all 6 templates
you don't have to go through and change them all to be like that, it'll just ignore the parameter we put in yesterday
pages with different names on each wiki will require a redirect to work
summer kindle
I have no idea what you are talking about
summer kindle
Oh we should just change that
agile spindle
on BZ the template links to Debug Console Commands on SN which is a redirect to Console Commands
you can rename it if you want
rename or redirect will fix it
there was definitely one other inconsistency but I can't recall the page
We have a Seabases page on SN and Seabase Modules on BZ
not sure how you wanna deal with that
summer kindle
Oh yeah I changed the way the seabase module pages worked
summer kindle
that would work
agile spindle
done
@summer kindle are you changing all of them? if the is appropriate more often i can just change the original
summer kindle
No only certain pages
leave the template as is
otherwise we'd get "the Marguerit Maida"
agile spindle
true
btw i don't think the is appropriate for category pages like vehicles and fauna
summer kindle
I don't see why it is not
summer kindle
you know what would have been more practical
is to have made SubnauticaLinkThe the default and then changed the minority of pages that don't make sense with that
but I'm already halfway through now so whatever
agile spindle
thats exactly what i suggested earlier
summer kindle
Yeah I underestimated how many pages needed to be changed
fluid lagoon
make it stop
agile spindle
lol turn off default watch maybe
summer kindle
yeah why do you have that on
fluid lagoon
i don't know
tardy turtle
i love it when a code comes together as a template š
agile spindle
when EA #1 comes out do we assume anything not crossed over from SN won't be in the game or should we wait until release before deleting any pages?
summer kindle
I don't expect there will be many pages to delete.
And that's all of the pages done for the SubnauticaLinkThe template
only took like 3 hours
agile spindle
okay but that doesnt answer the question
summer kindle
I can't think of any pages that would even need to be deleted
agile spindle
in the event that by some miracle of god the ion battery isnt in EA #1 do we delete it or wait until release
summer kindle
well the ion battery is a precursor item so you'd expect that to be unlocked later anyway
I guess it depends on the nature of the item
agile spindle
so we wait
south salmon
summer kindle
so nice I had to say it twice
kindred kernel
so twice i had to say it nice
frail dragon
the mobile version is awful tho
tardy turtle
finally my neptune project is taking shape
btw I repurposed the quote template
no documentation yet
it is flexible tho
cinder kestrel
Without our consent? Alright.
tardy turtle
what consent?
i asked bip
like 2 times
he said fine as a long as it's not broken for the pages that use it
only 2 does
and none are broken
plus those are user pages
profiles
so what's the problem @cinder kestrel
tardy turtle
template is not broken on those
cinder kestrel
Anyway, I like how you ask a question to respond to my question and answer that question. You have been taught well, I see.
Should I get out at bot on the Below Zero Wiki and start editing so that they can apply the flag?
tardy turtle
still I'm not sure what consent you mean
cinder kestrel
You asked what consent and immediately answered by saying BippityBop gave consent.
So I am not sure what is confusing you.
cinder kestrel
Glad you finally understand what you want to understand.
tardy turtle
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cinder kestrel
I can almost claim you are desperate about this conversation we are having, but not quite.
summer kindle
right this is painful, anyway
cinder kestrel
Then my work here is done.
"anyway"
What did you need?
My work is not done if you need something.
tardy turtle
"you are desperate about this conversation we are having" nnnnnope
cinder kestrel
Glad you agree with me. Again.
agile spindle
@tardy turtle I don't want to mess with the neptune page while you're dancing with it but can you check out what's going on with the gallery?
only one tab is showing pictures
tardy turtle
cos there are no pictures added yet. what i did was prepare the gallery for additions. do you want me to switch the empty sections off?
agile spindle
yes till we have stuff to add
tardy turtle
thx. yeah it still is work in progress. for your own mental health tho don't view the code. cos it's not exactly top notch readablility wise hehe
what would you all say about changing tabber color to #012e59. it's the same as infobox' blue background for names
cinder kestrel
My only critique is the use of second person point-of-view in a couple of spots.
cinder kestrel
Currently I on my phone so I cannot effectively search the article.
But I can change one instance.
tardy turtle
sure. pls do. I'll try and correct the rest
tardy turtle
no it's not. i dont think
agile spindle
how does one change the tabber color
tardy turtle
it's a class i think
tardy turtle
you change this class i think class="tabber tabberlive"
yes. change it globally
imho it would match the overall color scheme better
this current blue pokes the eyes. dont you think?
.tabberactive a{background: #000fe5 !important;} this part is the box color
tardy turtle
.tabbernav {border-bottom: 3px solid #000fe5;} and is the other thing
works now š
thank you
agile spindle
im colorfully challenged so honestly i defer to everyone else's judgment
kindred kernel
colorfully challenged
summer kindle
Do you want to make the tabbers on BZ wiki the same or a different colour
round cloud
colorfully challenged
agile spindle
imo I'd want a pale blue for that but idk how it will be on the eyes
just throw me a few ideas and I'll try them out
tardy turtle
perhaps make the background in hyperlink color but make the fonts 100% transparent
tardy turtle
BZ
summer kindle
Well I can tell you with certainty that colour isn't good
not with white text anyway
agile spindle
it's blinding
summer kindle
there I changed it to have black text on the tabs when they're selected and white text when unselected
agile spindle
in F12?
oh I already changed it in the css
either way it updated for me
not a huge fan
summer kindle
I don't even know what "in F12" refers to so I assume not
agile spindle
actually it looks okay
agile spindle
nevermind
summer kindle
understandable have a nice day
summer kindle
I'm fine with it
summer kindle
I just found that colour drab. I'll make it paler.
time to wait 5 minutes for it to update
it's a bit less vibrant now
summer kindle
#6edaea
frail dragon
is it okay to add the sea truck sleeper module to thishttps://subnautica-belowzero.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Navbox_Vehicles
summer kindle
yeah
agile spindle
i guess it did update but I see no difference
frail dragon
and "Sea Truck Prawn Suit Docking Module" is awfully long in the template
summer kindle
it sure is
agile spindle
remove sea truck
frail dragon
also is there way to make it so the link text is different from the link itself
tardy turtle
#12757f?
frail dragon
i know there is i just forgot exactly how
agile spindle
[[target page|actual text]]
frail dragon
k
agile spindle
@tardy turtle no
tardy turtle
#3ba9e4?
agile spindle
thats not bad
definitely better than sky blue
maybe duller versions of pale blue though?
brighter*
bip didnt like #afeeee or whatever
tardy turtle
which one you need brighter?
frail dragon
what happened to the sea truck farming module
summer kindle
cut
summer kindle
I do not know why that one would be cut
tardy turtle
like that? 85FCF4
frail dragon
it'd be nice to have a console in the sea truck that can construct a module that will spawn connected to the sea truck itself so you wont have to exit it or anything