#monogame-and-libgdx-dev

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signal birch
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you guys use any particular frameworks?

hot hazel
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monogame

signal birch
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🤝

hot hazel
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<@&133522354419662848> ^

rain compass
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!karma @rain compass

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rain compass
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!karma @rain compass

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rain compass
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@rain compass thanks

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!karma @rain compass

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stoic flax
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name something you love and hate about monogame, for me I love how I could just start coding my game without having to learn any new tools, but I hate how hard it is to find tutorials on how to make custom shaders

hot hazel
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also, you will find a bunch of old xna shader samples on the internet

tender relic
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who?

scarlet plaza
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Also, I use a GLSL framework/pipeline called GLSLOptimizerSharp, which is very nice to have in your content pipeline for cross platform shader support. Provides a wrapper for shader compiler for content pipeline to use glsl shaders instead of having to go for hlsl or the fx ones.

signal birch
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Respects the cpu cache eh

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Sounds like it should perform like unity's ecs (the pattern isn't the speed boost its the cpu cache stack abuse)

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Will check it out

rough knoll
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Hello, recently I've been learning Monogame, and gamedev in general, and I've been wondering if design patterns are actually used in gamedev, I've seen that many people ignore them and go straight to development, and in case they are useful, which one would you recommend?

scarlet plaza
# signal birch Sounds like it should perform like unity's ecs (the pattern isn't the speed boos...

Yup, LeoECS is high in the charts for the independent ECS libraries in the way of performance thanks to CPU stack abuse. Its documentation is in Russian. Thankfully, a couple of forks have the docs translated to English pretty good. Here's the main repo: https://github.com/Leopotam/ecs - Sticking it through google translate does the trick.

It needs a little love to chop shop the third party plugins together and remove the compiler flags / debug code in the ifdef blocks, but the edits are simple and its real real fast. Only took about 24 hours to fix it up the last time he updated.

weak salmonBOT
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saber7ooth thanked popcron

scarlet plaza
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I probalby should fork it and commit my local code, now that I mention it, because I use it often and have maintained my own through three of his revisions, I will when I am more awake.

scarlet plaza
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I'll mess with a little jekyll installation and get it some docs before I share it here.

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proven briar
scarlet plaza
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https://github.com/loopyd/ecs-saber

As promised I return with at least some functional repo, docs are incomplete but I am working through the mass amount of functions locally so soon™️ I will eventually include a monogame sample project so that its use can be demonstrated when I finish documenting everything.

scarlet plaza
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Got the DocsFX site working with GitHub actions so you can now browse library API documentation. I am still working on C1 end of pipeline to release project, I am following github codeQL security recomendations before I hook that up to deploy to releases, though. CodeQL is hooked up to validate PRs, I will put it into releases after I have finished removing security vulnerability from project as some warnings appeared, so please keep it in mind on Security tab. I gutted his whole framework out and basically have refactored all of it to make it engine agnostic and improved performance further by including LINQ and more modern .NET optimizations. My library is 17% faster than his thanks to just unrolling a lot of the loops and untanging a lot of spaghetti in the original. I spent about the last week on automating builds and docs so there will be much more of that fixing up and optimizing / as well as a full testing framework soon.

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shrewd kraken
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hello libgdx folks 👋🏻

vernal oar
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yeah all 3 of you

fossil sparrow
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So I have a weird problem in LibGDX where sometimes if I stay in a specific x position with my player, some tiles have a gap between them.

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probably happens with y position as well

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(the black tiles are indeed tiles)

modest cradle
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sus

hot hazel
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@stuck elk

raw warren
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<@&133522354419662848>

hot hazel
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<@&133522354419662848> ^

quiet ibex
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you have wrong blendstate

woven shoal
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I'm making a 3d game with c# monogame and I have a question regarding smooth alpha ribbon trails with forward rendering.

I organize my particles furthest to closest for when I draw them, which works fine for smooth alpha particles but how would you get ribbon trails to have smooth alpha since the ribbon trail is normally long and flat and go through the particles so its hard to tell if its before or after a particle. plus I currently draw 1 whole ribbon trail, I don't draw the ribbon trail in segments. Anyone have any ideas on how others do this?

Currently to fix the problem I dont use ribbon trails with alpha. But would like to use smooth alpha with ribbon trails.

hot hazel
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also sounds like maybe you want a depth buffer?

woven shoal
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how would you depth buffer a ribbon trail though since its long and curves in on itself sometimes

hot hazel
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a depth buffer just tells the rasterizer to not draw if that pixel has a closer depth

woven shoal
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i guess thats how defered rendering would handle alpha collision with particles and ribbon trails?

hot hazel
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maybe? deferred can't really handle transparency

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at least blending

woven shoal
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so even defered has to still order particles from furthest to closest?

hot hazel
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idk the details

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i just know its why games that use deferred have to render the transparency with dithering

woven shoal
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ill find a screenshot that uses particles and ribbon trail

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i dont think it lets me post pictures here

hot hazel
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fwiw the dithering will work too just won't have blended alpha is all

woven shoal
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here is 2 screenshots that use ribbon trails and particles. the particles are organized from furthest to closest so they work perfectly fine. But the ribbon trail is just drawn after all the particles so the ribbon trail cannot use alpha at all

hot hazel
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depth buffer i think should work

woven shoal
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otherwise u get ugly 0 alpha around the ribbon trail which hides the particles like the pixel shader is forgetting particles are already drawn

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i guess you draw the effects based on thier distance so you have a depth buffer for ribbon trail and a depth buffer for particles? and you merge the colour buffer with the 2 depth buffers?

hot hazel
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no

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read up on depth buffers

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well if you mean for alpha

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maybe(?)

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but not two depth buffers

woven shoal
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i know depth buffers are used in defered rendering to tell how far the colour, normal renders are

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kinda same thing we doing for this?

hot hazel
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a depth buffer tells you only what the z value was the last time that pixel was rasterized to

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so if a second draw call produces a z value with greater than the existing, it's not drawn

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also called a zbuffer

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maybe you're thinking of a gbuffer?

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anyway i gtg

woven shoal
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alright ty for your help

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ill look into depth buffers

stoic flax
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@fleet palm here's a demo of the new version of the engine with that sandbox "floatbox" testing scene (used screen-to-gif to capture which caused some mouse artifacts and the yellow 'click' circle)

floatbox_engine2.gif
fleet palm
hot hazel
woven shoal
bright hazel
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why does this not rotate correctly

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viscid cedar
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Hi guys. Someone mentioned this channel for scripts, snippets, extensions, etc. I’m looking for JavaScript cause I’m developing a web game with p5 library. I’m asking cause, in case it doesn’t exist, I want to create some snippets for everyone.

hot hazel
hot hazel
viscid cedar
hot hazel
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You're advertising your services ( I don't mean selling) anyway this is for monigame and libgdx not webdev, that's #web-dev

vernal nymph
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i’m currently working on a 2d engine and i tried box2d for physics but it’s way too complicated for platofrmers, any suggestions?

quiet ibex
sturdy prairie
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I've seen a lot about collision detection methods and stuff, how to make it better for rotated shapes or make it efficient with spatial hashing etc.

but no one really talks about combining the collision resolution with detection. resolution is the hard part imo lol

hot hazel
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i recommend a book on collision detection/resolution

sturdy prairie
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got a good one specifically?

hot hazel
sturdy prairie
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forgot to reply to this, thanks for the links!

raw warren
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yo thanks to this channel i might go back to libgdx

still egret
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Hey, guys, did anyone manage to get omnisharp to work with MonoGame? I have a cleanly installed Windows and can't get it to work. Any tips?

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I'm using VSCode*

hoary surge
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Can anyone help me figure out HLSL hardware instancing with monogame?

hot hazel
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shouldn't be any diff than other dx implementations

hoary surge
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@hot hazel wanna join me in VC?

hot hazel
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I don't use the voice chat sorry

hoary surge
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ah ok

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so far, I think my normals may be screwed up. got nothing but black when trying to draw

hot hazel
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can you open it in render doc/PIX?

hoary surge
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nope

hot hazel
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why not?

hoary surge
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renderdoc complains

hot hazel
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try PIX

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and can you render a single model?

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(not instanced)

hoary surge
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mostly. If i remove a specific variable from the lighting calculation in my shader, I can see it

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looks perfectly

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the segment of the shader code in question:

    float4 normal = normalize(mul(input.Normal, WorldInverseTranspose));
    float lightIntensity = dot(normal, DiffuseLightDirection);
    
    /* lightIntensity causes black coloring. Possible lighting issue or bad normals? */
    output.Color = saturate(DiffuseColor * DiffuseIntensity * lightIntensity);
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how I am getting my normals:

    internal static Vector3 GetNormal(Vector3 VertexA, Vector3 VertexB, Vector3 VertexC)
    {
        var XY = VertexA - VertexB;
        var ZY = VertexC - VertexB;
        XY.Normalize();
        ZY.Normalize();
        return Vector3.Cross(XY, ZY);
    }
hoary surge
ashen sleet
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MESALONMESALONMESALON

hot hazel
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<@&133522354419662848> ^

worldly cobalt
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question, could this channel be used for suggestions as well? or is it strictly about code issues/questions

calm bough
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im trying to figure out collisions right now. i've got the basic concept down, allowing for walls to stop player movement, but it's hard to implement things such as gravity and floors. whenever the player is colliding with the floor, its horizontal movement is significantly decreased. also, the jump height is always extremely low, no matter how large i set it to. here's a pastebin containing all of the relevant classes/code: https://pastebin.com/jyX0XGDU

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im aware that the jumppower is automatically capped to 320, but even so, it seems as though movement covers more distance than jumping (when not colliding with the floor)

mighty herald
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fix to your slow horizontal movement would be to modify this bit

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update x first, check bounds and reset x if intersects

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and repeat for y

woven shoal
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Hello, I've been solo developing a 3D MMORPG using C# with Monogame called Ruin a game inspired by old school MMORPG's like classic WoW,

In just about 7 hours from now, at 7:00 PM AEST, we're diving into a crucial stress test for Ruin. Your presence would mean a lot to us during this phase. If you're available, we warmly invite you to join us and contribute to testing the server.

If your interested I can send you a Steam CD-Key to download Ruin on Steam, we will be meeting on the Ruin discord but its not required to join our Discord.
Thank you in advance for your support!

woven shoal
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Ruin's latest update is now live on Steam. Our Stress Test is set to kick off in just 15 minutes. If you require a CD-Key to access Ruin, simply shoot me a message, and I'll be more than happy to provide you with one for downloading.

hot hazel
raw warren
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Hello guys... Can someone help me with tiled?

Maybe give me small idea about on how it works

hot hazel
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there should be tutorials (incl on youtube) on how to use it

silk oracle
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Got a nice top down shooter coming out at the beginning of December all written using libGDX framework

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vagrant sluice
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hello

slender island
woven shoal
raw warren
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Does anyone know where can I learn monogame for C# game development

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Sprites.
Ui
Animations
Collisions
Physics
Audio
Etc

hot hazel
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collision/physics can get pretty complicated if you want to roll your own, theres libraries to do all of this

raw warren
hot hazel
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i assume that's on youtube?

raw warren
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Yes

hot hazel
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i'd recommend just searching google

raw warren
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Do you mean documentation or what exactly

hot hazel
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documentation, tutorials

raw warren
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What about this

hot hazel
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doesn't seem to be much there

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also you will find a good number of ancient tutorials for XNA

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those should all generally work (at least if they target xna 4)

raw warren
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But aren't those outdated

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I mean monogame had upgrades since then and same goes to C#

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K thx

hot hazel
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monogame has tried to stay mostly compatible with xna

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or at least has happened to stay mostly compatible

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idk how much they try at this point

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but it was originally a clone of XNA's api

raw warren
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OK. Now I understand. I took a look at the documentation you sent and I believe it is easy to get started with. Thanks

raw warren
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hello guys, I been doing this school project a couple months ago but I am stuck. When I place a troop it is added to an arraylist, then I iterate through it and then I render and depending the type of troop it is I do certain update method:

            if (troop != null) {
                if (troop instanceof Slime) {
                    troop.update(fVp,troopArr);
                }
                else if (troop instanceof Boulder) {
                    troop.update(fVp,slime, troopArr, tempArr);
                }
                troop.render();

            }
        }```
 the thing is that only the boulder is being kind of properly updated (the update method is the one who manages the hitbox) but only the last slime has hitbox, can anyone help me?
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feel free to ask for more code

glacial chasm
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Ive downloaded java over and over again but libgdx keeps saying "Java is not installed"

hot hazel
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did you download the jdk or the jre?

hot hazel
glacial chasm
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jre

hot hazel
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you need the jdk

glacial chasm
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oh

glacial chasm
hot hazel
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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probably is fine

glacial chasm
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downloaded it

glacial chasm
hot hazel
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you need to get the installer version

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or install whatevers in that zip file

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that will update your PATH environment variable, which presumably libGDX uses

glacial chasm
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oh im using the wrong site

glacial chasm
hot hazel
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you could try restarting your machine, though do you have any logs available?

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(I don't use libGDX fwiw so I can't be of specific help)

glacial chasm
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Didn't work either ;-;

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im going to explode

wispy sorrel
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can someone help me out, I'm trying to set collision data in tiled map editor and load it using box2d but I'm getting weird results.
relevant code :


        MapLayer collisionLayer =  tmap.getLayers().get("Collisions");
        for(RectangleMapObject rectangleMapObject : collisionLayer.getObjects().getByType(RectangleMapObject.class)){
            Rectangle rectangle = rectangleMapObject.getRectangle();

            BodyDef bDef = new BodyDef();

            bDef.position.set(new Vector2(rectangle.x, rectangle.y));
            bDef.type = BodyType.StaticBody;

            Body body = world.createBody(bDef);
            PolygonShape shape = new PolygonShape();
            shape.setAsBox(rectangle.width, rectangle.height);
            body.createFixture(shape, 0.0f);
            shape.dispose();
        }
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same level in tiled editor

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hot hazel
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SetAsBox takes half sizes looks like

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so you need something like var hw = rectangle.width / 2; var hh = rectangle.height / 2; position.set(new Vector2(rectangle.x + hw, rectangle.y + hh)); ..setAsBox(hw, hh);

hot hazel
wispy sorrel
weak salmonBOT
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stoozee thanked cobalthex

wispy sorrel
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I thought position started on the topleft and not the center

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mb

stark forum
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Do you have a game Idea or a reference you’ll like to bring to reality?
I’m available to work with you for your game developments

raw warren
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Coming from godot

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Easy entry?

hot hazel
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?

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to monogame?

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if yes, monogame is not an engine so you will be doing a lot more work by yourself

wild oracle
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yes it is easy

raw warren
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does anyone know to how make sprite rotate around another sprite in monogame

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i am trying to remake pop the lock game

hot hazel
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as in orbit another sprite?

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var currentOrbitAngleRadians = MathHelper.PiOver2;
var orbitPosition = centerPosition + new Vector2(
  MathF.Cos(currentOrbitAngleRadians) * orbitRadius,
  MathF.Sin(currentOrbitAngleRadians) * orbitRadius);```
raw warren
hot hazel
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animate currentOrbitAngleRadians

raw warren
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i am beginner so i dont understand

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the sprite has position and rotation

hot hazel
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currentOrbitAngleRadians += (gameTime.ElapsedGameTime * someSpeed) % MathHelper.TwoPi;

raw warren
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what is te current orbit angle connected to

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is it x postion or y position

hot hazel
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neither

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it is an angle

raw warren
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then how does it move

hot hazel
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orbitPosition would be your sprite's position

raw warren
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k

hot hazel
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centerPosition is what you want to orbit around

raw warren
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k now i understand

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not moving

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float orbitRadius = 135f;
float currentOrbitAngleRadians = MathHelper.PiOver2;
Vector2 orbitPosition = Centre + new Vector2(
MathF.Cos(currentOrbitAngleRadians) * orbitRadius,
MathF.Sin(currentOrbitAngleRadians) * orbitRadius);
currentOrbitAngleRadians += speed % MathHelper.TwoPi;

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this is the code

hot hazel
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you have to save currentOrbitAngleRadius somewhere where it won't be reset every frame

raw warren
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ok i solved

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what about rotation

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do you know how can i do it

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it is a cylinder

hot hazel
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if you're going clockwise, angle is currentOrbitRadiusAngle is + 90deg, if you're going counter clockwise is -90

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90 deg = MathHelper.PiOver2

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I recommend studying up on some trigonometry for this

raw warren
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ok

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thanks

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do you know any equation for it

hot hazel
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equation?

raw warren
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or how to do this

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or what exactly should i search for to get an answer

hot hazel
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i just told you

raw warren
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so i convert currenOrbitRadians to angle then add 90

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and if anti clockwise i subtract 90

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?

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ok thanks it works now

raw warren
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So I am currently trying to enhance my abilities in monogame so I am planning to make a 2d shooter game where the player is in middle of screen and you rotate him and shoot enemies that spawn randomly and move toward player . I plan to try implementing UI and a Particle system so is it better to just watch a tutorial for them first or try experimenting first and figure it out then watch a tutorial as a refinement . Any thoughts?

hot hazel
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You'll learn a lot more

raw warren
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OK thanks

hot hazel
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Texture2D.FromStream/FromFile

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Monogame.Extended has a shapes library IIRC

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xna is a wrapper around directx, directx doesn't do shapes, its up to you to implement that.
Two of the ways you can do it:

  • Create a 1x1 white pixel texture (new Texture2D() then texture.SetData() ), stretch that to whatever size you want
  • Draw primitives and use a shader to fill in the color (you probably will want a custom shader here)
hot hazel
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it can go in any folder you want

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visual studio can be a bit weird with the working directory, but when running an app, by default, the working directory is the location the exe is in

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so if you say FromFile("foo/bar")

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foo is relative to that working directory

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^

serene phoenix
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I'm gonna ask for libgdx help here

tough nacelle
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Oh wait monogame is an engine :(

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I was going to try and make an engine in mono game

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experiencing a horible bug

tough nacelle
tough nacelle
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Im trying to get it were wasd is local space

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and not worldspace

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the video is in world space were w is on the world grid instead of where im looking

azure geode
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You have to construct a new vector from the camera rotation to get the 'forward' direction

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And then scale it based on your W/S movement

tough nacelle
azure geode
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Using MonoGame is still 100% fine

tough nacelle
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but its a game engine

azure geode
tough nacelle
hot hazel
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monogame is a framework not an engine

tough nacelle
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ok now im even more confused

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thats what I said originaly

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but both he and this said it was an engine

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hot hazel
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well that's just 'somewhere to put it'

tough nacelle
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I would have put it under other dev

hot hazel
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

azure geode
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It's open source, pretty mature and has a decent community

tough nacelle
hot hazel
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you arguably could, though it would be silly

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but yes monogame is a framework not an engine, perfectly suitable for diy

tough nacelle
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well I might be switching to silk.net or the C# version of opengl (I forgot the name)

tough nacelle
tough nacelle
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got it working

tough nacelle
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I really gota find a way to have the models work with out me join all the pieces

hot hazel
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as in not having to combine the meshes into one?

tough nacelle
hot hazel
tough nacelle
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this is the model

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hot hazel
tough nacelle
hot hazel
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i need more technical detail...

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typically for transforms you either use matrices or something like qual quaternions

tough nacelle
hot hazel
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where are you getting stuck?

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are you looking for help?

tough nacelle
tough nacelle
hot hazel
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well as I mentioned above, typically you use recursive transforms via matrices or dual quaternions

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if you have Root > A > B > C > Leaf

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Root has the world transforms, A = root * A's local transforms, B = A * B's local transforms, etc

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(maybe reverse order for multiplication)

tough nacelle
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?

plain minnow
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It took me WEEKS to get block rendering to work. Resorting to ChatGPT was my only option lmao I hate the tutorials for LibGDX

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For those who want to see a scope for the game, I'm going for a sort of Terraria clone (Big But Principle incoming) BUT, it's top-down like the OG Zelda, and there are sort of "levels" (caves, underwater, etc.) to a procedurally generated world. Here's my TODO list:

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normal yew
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Anybody experienced with 3D Engines in XNA? Got a Voxel Engine generating trees, however, it only generates the leafs and not the trunk for some reason.

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The code, I've tried adjusting the trunk height and a bunch of other options, but can't seem to figure out what's going on

hot hazel
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do you have any debug drawing capabilities?

normal yew
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Hmh good one, unfortunately no. I'm not that experienced just yet but will look into that.

hot hazel
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i recommend adding stuff like that where you can draw debug lines/shapes in-scene

normal yew
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Will do that 😉 Thanks for the suggestion

devout burrow
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my end goal is to end up having my game look something akin to this, but I have no real experience dealing with graphic code. Can this look be achieved purely through HLSL?

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I know MonoGame has the Effect class, and the Basic Effect seems to do some nice stuff. But I dont know if an Effect of an FX file is the right way to go about making a look like this

iron zinc
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can someone please tell me what's wrong with the load method in player
it keeps giving me that _animPlayer is null

hot hazel
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likely an order of operations issue

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esp since you're creating a new anim player for every instance

iron zinc
hot hazel
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that is for you to decide, but it doesn't really make sense how you're doing it now

iron zinc
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How would u normally do it

hot hazel
iron zinc
slate ravine
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What's this channel for

hot hazel
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it's in the name

slate ravine
hot hazel
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game libraries

hot hazel
deep patio
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The helpful part is you're not stuck with the systems that they put in

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You can also access a lower level system whenever you want

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So you can mold it yourself if necessary

north knoll
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Let's collaborate. It's easy for me to fix game issues, and also I found it super convenient to develop a new game

raw warren
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<@&133522354419662848> is this allowed or nah ther3s alot of it in this server tbh

humble lagoon
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Hello

hot hazel
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hi

unreal solar
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Happy New Year!!!!!!!!

hot hazel
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<@&133522354419662848>

cinder helm
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Hi

weak void
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hi felix!!

hot hazel
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what do you mean using another medium?

silk oracle
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alright peeps: I'm lacking a bit of common sense I guess, but I was fairly sure this code would work. I'm missing a calculation, could someone point me to what I'm missing:

Vector2 origin = new Vector2(x, y).add(weapon.bulletOrigin).rotateDeg(rotation);
Vector2 target = new Vector2(worldMouseX, worldMouseY);
hot hazel
silk oracle
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Well it's fixed now but I just wanted the bullets to be shot from the top of the weapon as I rotated. I just wanted taking into account the origin of the player

oblique plank
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Does anyone have a good way to familiarize me with LibGDX please?

hot hazel
fierce shuttle
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After i exit my Game there is a white screen and it seems like Lib.gdx is closing but the App is still active. I use first Gdx.app.exit(); and after that System.exit(0). Someone have a solution for this?

fierce shuttle
vestal osprey
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hello

jade peak
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hello

foggy locust
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so were not gonna talk ab how this person has a cursor on his phone?

hot hazel
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plug in a mouse

earnest tulip
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Could also just be an emulator

forest fossil
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hello

oblique crow
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Hi

plain jewel
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<@&133522354419662848>

livid rampart
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monogame love and support

hot hazel
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<@&133522354419662848>

gritty jetty
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How can I work with custom devanagari fonts? Tried with the normal spritefont method but the complex conjuncts seem to be broken and it doesnot look good.

hot hazel
gritty jetty
modern bear
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Hey does anyone have experience with libgdx? Would you recommend for a small game

hot hazel
livid rampart
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Monogame engine library and project using that library commits so far

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pale tree
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Converting a .bat file game to monogame. Time to rewrite 14755 lines

last raven
pale tree
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oh?

stray anvil
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hello

royal needle
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Hi, How are you?

livid rampart
livid rampart
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After trial and tribulation of having to swap how my renderer handles ui calls, I now have some nice ui loaded in from json!

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livid rampart
livid rampart
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flickering was from layerDepth being too similar

livid rampart
dark vapor
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one day I will work on real projects

livid rampart
dark vapor
dark vapor
dark vapor
shell schooner
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Anyone use skeletal 2d animations? I've realized there doesn't seem to be basically any tutorial or actual way to do this within the past 5+ years lol

hot hazel
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it's not any different from 3d skeleton stuff fwiw

last raven
hot hazel
last raven
hot hazel
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<@&133522354419662848>

upper knoll
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Hello libgdx developers 🙂

last raven
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Random zigzag up a mountain. Width of the passage varies too. Padding on the left and right.

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upper knoll
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You mean this style ?

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last raven
last raven
livid rampart
austere saddle
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🚀✨ If you’re into a charming, fast-paced space shooter, take a look at my game — cute sprites, polished visuals, and just the right amount of challenge. It might be exactly the kind of adventure you love playing! 💫🎮

https://leandro-sapito.itch.io/astronave

round topaz
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How to learn libGDX?

hot hazel
placid forge
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is there any better way to have fonts in lib gdx than the bit map ones? Bitmap fonts are practically obsolete for ttf files and the always show up blurry unless i used a large image size

hot hazel
round topaz
mint marsh
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👋

mint marsh
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👋

twilit otter
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I have bitmap fonts in my libgdx game and they work well, small and large size. I recall having some difficulty and had to make some tweaks. I don't remember exactly but if you're still having the issue we can help on the discord.

wide arrow
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Hi guys, I have a question. As an artist with absolutely 0 coding knowledge and experience, how hard would you say monogame is to learn?

hot hazel
wide arrow
hot hazel
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it's probably a bit overkill but you could

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monogame is pretty approachable, but you'll need to learn c# first.

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monogame is only a framework, an engine like unity does a lot more for you

wide arrow
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I see! I'll do more research on unity then

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thank you soo much for responding c:

hot hazel
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that said, I really enjoyed monogame (XNA at the time) but it does require some programming practice

wide arrow
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ohh I'll check out game maker too, I'm planning on learning to make a 2D pixel game similar to maybe chef rpg or dave the diver

nimble spruce
nimble spruce
hot hazel
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i wouldn't say everything, but a good amount of stuff

nimble spruce
hot hazel
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it doesn't really provide a full rendering pipeline

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also is only really catering to 2D

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there's no multiplayer stuff, which is required for some games

nimble spruce
#

then again I have never really made anything in Monogame so...

nimble spruce
hot hazel
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yes, frameworks != engines

nimble spruce
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I generally use frameworks for small projects while engines for bigger ones

hot hazel
#

also the input system doesn't extend to more high level gameplay concepts

nimble spruce
hot hazel
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abstracting inputs to gameplay actions

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stuff for handling chords/combos

nimble spruce
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I have never made a game that has combo attacks, so i wouldnt know anything about that

twilit otter
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libgdx FTW

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we've got a game on Play Store, ios soon once we fix some ios specific bugs. For those who want to de-couple from an IDE, go totally opensource, and just write code, LibGDX is a great option.

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good support from the libgdx discord also.

wispy sorrel
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Esp scene 2d ui stuff

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Very useful

proper remnant
wispy sorrel
#

Another thing i like abt libgdx is the tools like skin composer and texture packer, very useful

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Maybe u can make those for something like raylib

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Or maybe they alr exist but idk lol

twilit otter
dense storm
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<@&133522354419662848>

last raven
hot hazel
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usually this stuff also works with the rest of your game, so its part of an engine

copper vector
#

I'm trying to draw my player at an angle, but whenever I do this it shows up as a black box
I've looked up and down but nothing seems to work

hot hazel
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we're going to need more detail than that

copper vector
#

I ended up fixing it, it was the content pipeline on monogame just not updating for some reason

atomic thistle
#

hey so i'm trying to make my game window maximize itself upon launching using system.windows.forms and its control.fromhandle method, but for some reason that method isn't working and it's only returning null

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how can i fix this?

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(this is monogame btw i have no idea what lib gdx is ^^")

hot hazel
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i believe the window does not exist yet

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add an event to graphics.DeviceCreated

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check there

atomic thistle
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well that's the thing, it does it no matter where i grab it at, even during runtime

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like in the update method somehow

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i have the same setup in another project and it seems to work fine

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but uh yeah i tried that and it does seem that the graphics device is created

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:D
what

hot hazel
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if you put a breakpoint

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what is window.Handle

atomic thistle
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a bunch of hexadecimal stuff that i don't understand

hot hazel
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im going to guess there is not an associated windows form

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try

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add [DllImport("user32.dll")] [return: MarshalAs(UnmanagedType.Bool)] static extern bool ShowWindow(IntPtr hWnd, int nCmdShow); to your main cs file

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in the class

atomic thistle
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wait where? that's some weird lookin code

hot hazel
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and then somewhere in the code ShowWindow(Window.Handle, 3)

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just at the top of whatever class this code is in

atomic thistle
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oh it's erroring me, saying that dllimport, marshalas, and unmanagedtype couldn't be found

hot hazel
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add using System.Runtime.InteropServices; to the top

atomic thistle
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okay did that, what's supposed to happen?

hot hazel
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(this only works on windows)

atomic thistle
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oh, if it helps at all, i did set this project as cross-platform opengl

hot hazel
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if its running on windows this will work

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linux/osx use their own mechanisms for maximizing a window

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(you can probably find a cross platform library that takes that window handle, if its an issue)

atomic thistle
#

oh

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well

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that method's still not maximizing it

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but it's not erroring

hot hazel
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store the return value in a variable

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whats it returning

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also try calling it in different places

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see if it makes a diff

atomic thistle
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false

hot hazel
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try putting it somewhere later in the code then

atomic thistle
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nope, always false

hot hazel
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not sure what to say then

#

is your window fixed size?

atomic thistle
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not exactly

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i have this event method for checking if the window size has changed and then setting the aspect ratio accordingly

        protected void ClientSizeChanged(object sender, System.EventArgs e)
        {
            Window.ClientSizeChanged -= ClientSizeChanged;
            if (Window.ClientBounds.Width > 2 * Window.ClientBounds.Height)
            {
                graphics.PreferredBackBufferWidth = 2 * Window.ClientBounds.Height;
            }
            else if (Window.ClientBounds.Width < (4.0 / 3.0) * Window.ClientBounds.Height)
            {
                graphics.PreferredBackBufferWidth = (int)((4.0 / 3.0) * Window.ClientBounds.Height);
            }
            graphics.ApplyChanges();
            Window.ClientSizeChanged += ClientSizeChanged;
        }
hot hazel
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Window.AllowUserResizing

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is that set to true

atomic thistle
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yeah

hot hazel
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not sure then

atomic thistle
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the only think i can think of is the platform setting, since this one's cross-platform and that other one was windows only and it worked on that

hot hazel
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ShowWindow should be able to maximize it whenever called

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though i guess it might not work

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because the windowHandle you're getting is not the actual window

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but some intermediate representation

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like opentk/whatever

atomic thistle
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wait that actually helps a ton

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i just need to figure out how to get the actual window then, right?

hot hazel
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in theory

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you may wish to browse the monogame source some

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figure out what that handle is

atomic thistle
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alright i'll do that tomorrow then, it's almost 2:30 am lol

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thanks for the help @hot hazel!

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atomic thistle
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man this feels really weird asking a question twice in a row after coming from the way more active #unity-dev, but how can i implement parallax scrolling for my background (i.e. making it move at a different speed)? i have my own method for making it wrap indefinitely, as for some reason the linear wrap samplerstate isn't working for me:

protected void DrawBackground(Texture2D sprite, SpriteBatch batch)
{
    for (int i = -1; i < 2; i++)
    {
        for (int j = -1; j < 2; j++)
        {
            batch.Draw
            (
                sprite,
                new Rectangle
                (
                    (int)((Math.Round(cameraX / 1920) + i) * 1920),
                    (int)((Math.Round(cameraY / 1080) + j) * 1080),
                    1920,
                    1080
                ),
                Color.White
            );
        }
    }
}
#

some notes on that: cameraX and cameraY are always negative (the opposite of what they are visually) for some reason, and the viewport resolution is technically always 1920x1080 due to the spritebatch using the "cameraMatrix" variable in this code block:

float scaleX = (float)Window.ClientBounds.Width / 1920;
float scaleY = (float)Window.ClientBounds.Height / 1080;
Matrix scaleMatrix = Matrix.CreateScale(scaleX, scaleY, 1.0f);
float xDif = cameraX - (ships[playerIndex].Position.X - 960);
float yDif = cameraY - (ships[playerIndex].Position.Y - 540);
cameraX -= 0.1f * xDif;
cameraY -= 0.1f * yDif;
Matrix translationMatrix = Matrix.CreateTranslation(-cameraX * scaleX, -cameraY * scaleY, 0);
cameraMatrix = scaleMatrix * translationMatrix;
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so i really can't seem to wrap my head around how to use something like a "parallaxSpeed" parameter in that drawbackground method

hot hazel
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there is a lot of hard coding happening here

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anyway if you have a map position

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parallax position = mapPosition * 0.5

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you should not hard code window size into your game

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at least anywhere past where its set

atomic thistle
#

window size can still be whatever you want within reason, but it's going to be a 1920x1080 one scaled down (or up) to keep it consistent

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like if you set the window size maximized on a 4k monitor or something, it wouldn't be balanced to zoom the camera out because of that

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anyways, what does mapPosition mean?

atomic thistle
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(update to my question: made a change to the drawbackground method to make it much more readable; instead of calling 9 instances of batch.draw individually, it just uses two for loops now)

atomic thistle
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(even more updatez to help with anyone that wants to answer: reworked all doubles to instead use floats to keep things consistent, changed player pos to a vector2, and made the camera pos no longer the opposite of what it should be)

hot hazel
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why are you drawing it 9 times?

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can i get a screenshot of what this looks like?

atomic thistle
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well it's a bit too big to fit onscreen so you'll have to excuse my shoddy mspaint visualization

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but it's a grid so that it can loop forever seamlessly, i know that i can minimize it to a smaller number (1 to 4 depending on how many should be onscreen) but i'm not really trying to go through the mental gymnastics of calculating that right now

hot hazel
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what are you drawing in that pattern?

atomic thistle
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the sprite

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for the background i mean

hot hazel
#

yes i konw

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what does it actually look like

atomic thistle
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i mean it's just a generic star background i got off the internet, dunno why that's important at all

hot hazel
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just trying to visualize what you're doing

atomic thistle
#

here; notice how the stars (most visibly the large ones) wrap to the other side of the screen once they go offscreen

hot hazel
#

you can much more easily do this by using a wrapping texture

atomic thistle
#

😀

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i said specifically that that wasn't working with my scaling method for whatever reason :/

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if i set it then the background just doesn't show up

hot hazel
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render the texture at 2x the size of your window

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then draw it at -(playerPosition % windowSize)

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multiply those numbers by your scale

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(you can do this via a matrix)

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your scale may be wrong

atomic thistle
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well it wasn't even showing up last i tried that so maybe it was the position as well?

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either way i don't know what these variables mean, i'm not using the player's position but the camera's position and i'm not sure if windowsize refers to 1920x1080 or the actual size

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and the camera position isn't the opposite of what it should be anymore so i don't know about that negative

hot hazel
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player position = camera position

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yes

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window size is whatever the viewport size is

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so GraphicsDevice.Viewport.Width/Height

atomic thistle
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okay, so i feel like i'm almost there? just don't really know how to multiply the rectangle by the matrix i'm using

spriteBatch.Begin(SpriteSortMode.Deferred, null, SamplerState.LinearWrap);
spriteBatch.Draw(assets.GetSprite("stars"), new Rectangle((int)-(cameraX % GraphicsDevice.Viewport.Width), (int)-(cameraY % GraphicsDevice.Viewport.Height), GraphicsDevice.Viewport.Width * 2, GraphicsDevice.Viewport.Height * 2), Color.White);
spriteBatch.End();
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(side note, assets is just a class i made with dictionaries and methods to grab a sprite or sound effect by its filename)

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okay yeah i have no idea what i'm doing 😀

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i really do not like having to work with rendering without using that matrix as the transformmatrix of the batch itself

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but i know for a fact that the modulo operator is definitely what i should've been doing

hot hazel
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i would start by getting it working without scaling/matrices

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start simple

atomic thistle
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okay back for another day of this, i really think that this is overthinking it

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i don't want to have to rework my entire system and i really shouldn't because this is not what i'm trying to do

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i had a method that worked the way i like and i just want to be able to use parallax speed with it

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not sampler states, not messing with what the viewport size actually is, none of that

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i'm sticking with this

protected void DrawBackground(Texture2D sprite, SpriteBatch batch, float parallaxSpeed = 1)
{
    for (int i = -1; i < 2; i++)
    {
        for (int j = -1; j < 2; j++)
        {
            Rectangle rect = new Rectangle
            (
                (int)((Math.Round(cameraX / 1920) + i) * 1920),
                (int)((Math.Round(cameraY / 1080) + j) * 1080),
                1920,
                1080
            );
            if (!Rectangle.Intersect(rect, new Rectangle((int)cameraX, (int)cameraY, 1920, 1080)).IsEmpty)
            {
                batch.Draw(sprite, rect, Color.White);
            }
        }
    }
}
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that's final. i just want to know where to throw that parallaxspeed parameter into that rectangle constructor

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even then, it's not drawing 9 times anymore, only up to 4 because i remembered that rectangle.intersect is a thing

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as a metaphor, i shouldn't have to replace my whole car just because i want a better radio

hot hazel
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yeah but if your car is held together with sticks and glue...

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🙂

atomic thistle
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ouch :/

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guess i'm just lookin' somewhere else for help then

hot hazel
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lol

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im just joking

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btw you can use rect.Intersects(new Rectangle(...)) rather than rectangle.intersect().isempty

atomic thistle
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oh, i knew that existed but i tried doing it from the static rectangle class like rectangle.intersect() so it wasn't showing up

atomic thistle
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okay, progress!

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i ended up doing

double normalX = (Math.Round(camera.Position.X / camera.Resolution.X) + i) * camera.Resolution.X;
double normalY = (Math.Round(camera.Position.Y / camera.Resolution.Y) + j) * camera.Resolution.Y;
double offsetX = parallaxSpeed * camera.Position.X;
double offsetY = parallaxSpeed * camera.Position.Y;
Rectangle rect = new Rectangle
(
    (int)(normalX - offsetX),
    (int)(normalY - offsetY),
    (int)camera.Resolution.X,
    (int)camera.Resolution.Y
);
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thing is though, it doesn't extend forever if parallaxspeed isn't 0

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(as evident through where it cuts off at its top in that video)

atomic thistle
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double offsetX = (camera.Position.X * parallaxSpeed) % camera.Resolution.X;
double offsetY = (camera.Position.Y * parallaxSpeed) % camera.Resolution.Y;
if (offsetX < -camera.Resolution.X / 2)
{
    offsetX += camera.Resolution.X;
}
else if (offsetX > camera.Resolution.X / 2)
{
    offsetX -= camera.Resolution.X;
}
if (offsetY < -camera.Resolution.Y / 2)
{
    offsetY += camera.Resolution.Y;
}
else if (offsetY > camera.Resolution.Y / 2)
{
    offsetY -= camera.Resolution.Y;
}
sturdy prairie
#

is there an easier way to apply AA in monogame than getting an AA shader and applying to a rendertarget?

atomic thistle
sturdy prairie
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I tried this solution but unfortunately it isn't doing anything

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for my project

atomic thistle
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ah, don't know what to tell you then :/ it does seem like using shaders isn't the recommended way of doing it though

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do you have any idea why that solution's not working?

sturdy prairie
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not really

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I'm fairly certain it's working

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like

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the code is running

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but it's just not doing anything

atomic thistle
#

what platform are you building for?

sturdy prairie
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windows atm

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I think it's uh

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opengl

atomic thistle
#

oh

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yeah opengl kinda tends to break everything in my experience

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would it be possible at all for you to move your code and assets to a project on another windows option? such as the directx one

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since there doesn't seem to be any real easy way of converting an existing project to another option

quiet ibex
#

@sturdy prairie you're likely turning AA on and not applying the changes to the gfx device

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if you do it in the Game1 constructor, you can be sure that it takes effect

sturdy prairie
#

I'm doing it in the game constructor yes

pearl ore
#

I ended up using FXAA. It's decent enough.

manic granite
#

Hello, im Using Monogmae w/ Xamarin & im trying to get this tutorial working for Android:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcPb0bKkpeg&list=PLHJE4y54mpC5hrlDv8yFHPfrSNhqFoA0h&index=2
The thing is when im trying to load the image I get an error of not finding it

 public class SplashScreen : GameScreen
    {
        Texture2D image;
        string path;  
public override void LoadContent()
        {
            base.LoadContent();
            path = "WowperroFirmaWhite.xnb";
            image = content.Load<Texture2D>(path);
            if (image == null)
            {
                image = content.Load<Texture2D>("WowperroFirmaWhite.png");
            }
        }

In other part of the code I also have

 public class GameScreen
    {
        protected ContentManager content;
        public virtual void LoadContent()
        {
            content = new ContentManager(ScreenManager.Instance.Content.ServiceProvider, "Assets");
        }
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How do u know which path to use w/ Xamarin

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Pls help I´ve been stuck here for a while unu

manic granite
#

please @me if you read this & know the answer

reef light
#

your path is wrong

manic granite
#

Ok, but I have a question, does the path acts the same if using Xamarin?

reef light
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i dont know xamarin, but if you are getting a path not found, i would start there

manic granite
#

with c# can u create a .txt file like w/ c++ to know where the program is searching?

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like without specifieng a path

# 
// basic file operations
#include <iostream>
#include <fstream>
using namespace std;

int main () {
  ofstream myfile;
  myfile.open ("example.txt");
  myfile << "Writing this to a file.\n";
  myfile.close();
  return 0;
}
#

like this but w/ c#

reef light
#

it's all reference, you gotta start from somewhere, just hardcode the path and see if it gets past the error, if it does, then work our how your file references will be, if it doesnt then you got other issues

#

in C# look up FSO

quiet ibex
#

@manic granite System.IO.File.AppendText("example.txt", "Writing this to a file.\n");

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or something like that

hot hazel
#

or System.IO.File.OpenWrite/new FileStream(...) -> stream.WriteBytes/whatever

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or even new StreamWriter(file) -> writetext/whatever

#

plenty of options

manic granite
#

Thx for all the assist, In the end I did not know what was happening, but it said acces denied, But i have fixed the path problem, thx

split warren
#

can anyone suggest how I can implement multiple scissors in libgdx, I am trying a window like feature where the character is only visible inside the window and is clipped outside

hot hazel
#

change the scissor rect per call. or use a different method

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like depth/z buffer

#

or alpha testing

#

or good old math

reef light
#

^ this, alot of different ways to approach it

split warren
#

thanks @hot hazel , i tried depth clipping, it worked

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hidden shell
#

Hey, I know this is opinion-based but what aspect ratio should I design my game under?
What I'm making is not much of a game, and more like a typical app.
I have a single background image that should be shown on any aspect ratio without black bars.

Looking at StackOverflow, answers seem to lead to designing for 16:9 (most common aspect ratio for android phones).
Therefore I downloaded a 1920x1080 background image.

Since I don't want black bars, using FitViewport is out of the question.
I decided to use either ExtendViewport or FillViewport. Testing both, FillViewport seemed to be the better result.
ExtendViewport still had a bar when running on a different aspect ratio than designed.
FillViewport didn't have black bars at all, but it still had one issue.

Running the app on a 16:9 screen showed the image perfectly (as expected). However, running it on a screen that's wider, such as a 1800x2560 tablet, results in the picture being extremely zoomed in (also a bit expected considering that's what FillViewport does).

Instead of trying to get assets for 16:9, should I find a background that would fit wider resolutions so that it doesn't look extremely zoomed in? I can't figure out how to scale to different aspect ratios properly even though Viewports should be making it easy for me.

jagged slate
#

Shoot for an actual target device. If it's PC, yeah stick with 16:9. Lots of android and ios devices have 16:9 or 16:10. Switch is 16x9.

#

Just for some examples

hidden shell
#

@jagged slate ok thanks! what viewports do you tend to use? would extendviewport be best for game objects, and fitviewport for the user interface?

stackoverflow answers tend to lead to fitviewport the most but i really don't want black bars if possible

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reef light
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indeed, it's all driven by device

#

most PC games allow the user to choose all supported or a large set of available card/gfx drive resolutions and color depths

hidden shell
#

if i want to support a set of aspect ratios without black bars, will i need to have a set of assets for each of those aspect ratios?
e.g. a wider/shorter background for 4:3 and a thinner/taller background for 16:9?

#

for now i'm just going to design it for 16:9 but even with viewports it still feels off

reef light
#

depends on your D

#

alot of games, just rescale

#

i theory, people only play in a certain aspect ratio at different sizes, so in theory, you 2d resources dont scale, but your background layers and such, should show more

#

also, there is no rule, that says, you have to support multiple

hidden shell
#

i just read about mipmaping so i'll just be using that instead of having to manually resize images for different resolutions. i'm definitely gonna have to find a bigger background that can show more if a wider screen is used
thanks @reef light!

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reef light
#

i wouldnt provide different resource sizes, use code to ratio up or down

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major of games will only provide 1 (hires) or 2 (high/lowres) textures/resources

jagged slate
#

TGP's experience is similar to my own. Also I've heard of doing some cool things with having device info pulled on download and then pulling down textures of specific sizes afterward to match so you don't have to resize

honest fjord
#

some 3d libgdx

#

the shadows stuff is really tucked away

manic granite
#

Yo, i´m tring to download an apk to my phone (Xiaomi Redmi 6) the apk is generated w/ monogame in visual S 2019, i have the xamarin emulator & i can make it run on it, but when I pass the apk to my phone I get this error java.lang.exception: Unable to get provider Any ideas?
Here is my manifest

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<manifest xmlns:android="http://schemas.android.com/apk/res/android" package="testandroid.testandroid" android:versionCode="1" android:versionName="1.0">
    <uses-sdk />
    <application android:label="testandroid"></application>
</manifest>
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And here is the error

java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to get provider mono.MonoRuntimeProvider: java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to find application Mono.Android.Platform.ApiLevel_27!
    at android.app.ActivityThread.installProvider(ActivityThread.java:6407)
    at android.app.ActivityThread.installContentProviders(ActivityThread.java:5909)
    at android.app.ActivityThread.handleBindApplication(ActivityThread.java:5826)
    at android.app.ActivityThread.-wrap1(Unknown Source:0)
    at android.app.ActivityThread$H.handleMessage(ActivityThread.java:1708)
    at android.os.Handler.dispatchMessage(Handler.java:106)
    at android.os.Looper.loop(Looper.java:176)
    at android.app.ActivityThread.main(ActivityThread.java:6662)
    at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)
    at com.android.internal.os.RuntimeInit$MethodAndArgsCaller.run(RuntimeInit.java:547)
    at com.android.internal.os.ZygoteInit.main(ZygoteInit.java:873)
Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to find application Mono.Android.Platform.ApiLevel_27!
    at mono.MonoRuntimeProvider.attachInfo(MonoRuntimeProvider.java:38)
    at android.app.ActivityThread.installProvider(ActivityThread.java:6395)
    ... 10 more
Caused by: android.content.pm.PackageManager$NameNotFoundException: Mono.Android.Platform.ApiLevel_27
    at android.app.ApplicationPackageManager.getApplicationInfoAsUser(ApplicationPackageManager.java:381)
    at android.app.ApplicationPackageManager.getApplicationInfo(ApplicationPackageManager.java:363)
    at mono.MonoRuntimeProvider.attachInfo(MonoRuntimeProvider.java:35)
    ... 11 more
split warren
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Disable Use Shared Runtime from Project ->Options->Android Options.

reef light
manic granite
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Thx a lot guys, the first option worked for me

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now im stuck w/ screen size, 😦

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Anyone that knows hoe to get the screen size, cause when I build, & pass it to my phone, it does not look good

 public class Activity1 : Microsoft.Xna.Framework.AndroidGameActivity
    {
        public static int ScreenHeight;
        public static int ScreenWidth;
        protected override void OnCreate(Bundle bundle)
        {
            base.OnCreate(bundle);
            var g = new Game1();
            SetContentView((View)g.Services.GetService(typeof(View)));

            ScreenHeight = (int)(Resources.DisplayMetrics.HeightPixels); // Resources.DisplayMetrics.Density);
            ScreenWidth = (int)(Resources.DisplayMetrics.WidthPixels); // Resources.DisplayMetrics.Density);

            g.Run();
        }
    }

ScreenH & ScreenW
It works /w Xamarin VS & Monogame
Srry dont´know

quiet ibex
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@manic granite you shouldn't set resolution when building for android

manic granite
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Then, where should I get resolution?

quiet ibex
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@manic granite you can get the backbuffer size from the graphicsdevice

reef light
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@manic granite you can use

[Game.GraphicsDevice.Viewport]
your stuff will be [ClientBounds] and you can get the availables from [GraphicsAdapter.SupportedDisplayModes]
hot hazel
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if you wnat the actual window size. GameWindow.ClientBounds

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if you want the size that your game will render to, backBuffer width/height

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viewport by default will match that size, but not required to

frozen portal
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anyone gradle pros know whats happening here?

frozen portal
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better screenshot

hot hazel
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this is not the channel to ask this

frozen portal
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I'm just trying to run the basic libGDX application in HTML the way you're supposed to

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so if anyone has a libgdx game that works in HTML, could you help me out to figure out why yours is working..?

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(this is while trying to run superdev btw)

frozen portal
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I got a bit further

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Is it supposed to look like this? It doesnt look like my game at all...

pearl ore
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It's supposed to be loading in your assets. After it's done loading it will start running your game.

manic granite
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It was with the viewport, thx for all the help,

verbal fox
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For libgdx, I get some weird error saying something about a bad version 57?

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When I'm trying to use their builder .jar file

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Anyone know what that is about?

pearl ore
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Make sure you have the latest JDK installed and that it's in your path. Usually an error like that is that your environment Java version is lower than the version of LibGDX's builder.

verbal fox
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hmm now for whatever reason I get an invalid package name error

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yeah I still get General error during semantic analysis: Unsupported class file major version 57

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java --version

java 13.0.1 2019-10-15
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 13.0.1+9)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 13.0.1+9, mixed mode, sharing)
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Seems like libgdx doesn't work with java 13

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Feel like that should be a huge disclaimer on their site

pearl ore
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Strange, Java is meant to not have breaking changes like that. If it worked on a lower level of Java it should run on a higher version no problem.

verbal fox
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Real shame, I wanted to give it a try, but can't even install it

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Google doesn't even return anything

pearl ore
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Are you double-clicking it or are you running it through the command line?

verbal fox
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Oh it looks like Gradle itself fails to build, so dumb

pearl ore
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Yeah that's the only thing I found but I didn't know if that's the issue you were having

verbal fox
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I guess the pointed question is: How do I tell the LibGDX setup jar file to use gradle 6.0

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Seems like it doesn't use system level gradle, cool.

pearl ore
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I wonder if when you click Generate if it puts the files in the destination folder

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And just run gradle yourself

verbal fox
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It does indeed, I tried to fiddle around with the project but I can't upgrade gradlew

pearl ore
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Yeah, I'd just delete gradlew and see if it'll build with your installed Gradle. Although from version 5 to 6 there might be breaking changes who knows

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Might have to grab a different lower version of gradle.

verbal fox
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I have gradle 6.0 available

pearl ore
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Or, just install an older JDK lol

verbal fox
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Do you know the older version number?

pearl ore
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Eh, now that I'm thinking about it it probably won't work

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Cause at the end of the day you still have JDK 13

verbal fox
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Damn, well RIP libgdx

pearl ore
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Try Gradle 6 first, no harm in trying since it's already installed

verbal fox
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i tried gradle desktop:run but says that command wasn't found

pearl ore
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Try just gradle

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The generator runs gradle, don't know what task but it downloads a bunch of dependencies. It might need that to get the desktop:run to work, but I'm not sure. Never had this trouble of course.

verbal fox
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wow it worked

frozen portal
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Hello! Is it possible to compile a LibGDX game for HTML with the Socket.io module?

frozen portal
pearl ore
frozen portal
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Is GWT similar to Socket @pearl ore?

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Would I have to make notable changes to my code base? (converting certain data types to bytes isn't notable)

pearl ore
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GWT stands for Google Web Tookit. Basically, it's a compile target for Java (turns Java into JavaScript). This is how LibGDX is able to run as an HTML app, it essentially transpiles your code into JavaScript. Since it's turning Java into JavaScript anyway, you can use JavaScript code if you wrap it. That means that you can use any JavaScript library, including socket.io. It involves a little work, you have to create a Java wrapper around your JavaScript code.

frozen portal
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So I would have to make a Java class that wraps the JS Socket.io library and make method calls to that instead?

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If that's the case I'm not sure how to go about doing that.

pearl ore
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The documentation I linked explains the basic process, it's just a matter of reading and figuring it out. There's also a couple Google I/O presentations that are pretty helpful.

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Or you can see if you're lucky and see if someone has already made one for socket.io.

frozen portal
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just as I'm reading, couple questions

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  1. I need to install JSNI (as a module/library), right?
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  1. Is my goal to turn all the Socket.IO classes into JavaScriptObjects?
frozen portal
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@pearl ore

frozen portal
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I finished reading, from what I understand I must

  1. Find the JS version of the socket.IO library (currently, I have the Java version)
  2. For the classes I want to use (Socket, IO and Emitter), I have to make a Java class that extends JavaScriptObject so I can communicate with them
  3. In my code, replace the socket.IO native classes references with my new Java classes
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What I don't understand is step 2 (sorry for the pinging @pearl ore do tell if I'm being annoying)

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Wait, is it just as simple as doing this for every class and putting in the correct namespace?

pearl ore
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Seems so. Personally, I'd wrap around socket.io with my own interface in JavaScript and then use that to talk between Java <--> JavaScript. That way you don't have to wrap around the whole socket.io library, just an interface with parts you'll use.

frozen portal
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Something like this?

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Game: instantiates and calls methods to javascript classes
Javascript Classes: implements the interface and calls the socket.io methods
Interface: defines the socket.io methods to inherit

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Have I got this right @pearl ore

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im not fully certain this makes sense

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One thing I don't understand is what html:dist is going to do. The only way to call socket.io methods from any language would be to compile the module, and when I tried it fail. If I compile the Javascript version of the module, GWT will notice it's JS and not try to transform it to Java code? because from what I understand that's what it doesn't manage to do. Do I understand the problem correctly?

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Side Question: is there a library similar to Socket that works with GWT?

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also could I just use that? i dont have time to test it but would it solve my problems?

pearl ore
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Seems right to me. It's been a long time since I've used GWT, I can't recall off the top of my head how to the JavaScript to interface directly. When you run html:dist it's going to compile your game in Java to JavaScript using GWT. There's a configuration file in the 'html' module that you have to configure at the very least. LibGDX has good documentation, and GWT has been around for a while so it'll just take some hard searching to find what needs configured.

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As far as using another library, there's the one you listed. Depends on if you absolutely need socket.io or not. There are also ones for websockets instead.

frozen portal
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@pearl ore I've heard people say that if I want to do this and have the game run in the browser, I CATEGORICALLY need to use websockets

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I hope that's not true

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I made some progress trying to make the GWT_Socket.io compile correctly but boy importing modules correct isn't easy

pearl ore
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socket.io is a wrapper around websockets nowadays. There is RTC but I'm not sure if that took off or not.

frozen portal
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@pearl ore man this was a slow day for me... Am I supposed to implement the JS Socket.io code as a library or as a module in my project's core?

pearl ore
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Oh, well in your core you can define an interface and pass it as a parameter to your main game class. Each platform you have to supply an implementation of the interface. In your html project you can implement it using JavaScript.

frozen portal
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okay so for the part that I understand, aka the Java distribution of Socket.IO

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The non-HTML implementation of the interface that abstracts away for me all needs of instantiating Socket.IO classes like Socket or Emitter instead has its own methods that the core code will call (and IT instantiates those objects)

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so for instance I could turn the code

data.put("x", player.getX());
data.put("y", player.getY());
data.put("rot", player.getRotation());
socket.emit("playerInit", data);
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into

SocketIO socketInterface = new SocketIO(whatever is needed here);

[...]

socketInterface.emit("playerInit", {"x", player.getX()}, {"y", player.getY()}, {"rot", player.getRotation()});
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and in the socketIO implementation for non-HTML it would look like

public void emit(String event, Object[] ... args){
    JSONObject data = new JSONObject();
    for(Object object : args){
        data.put(object[0], object[1]);
    } socket.emit(event, data);
}
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(JSONObject is also something GWT had trouble compiling so that's why I abstract it away)

#

So far am I correct @pearl ore ?

pearl ore
#

Little hard to read so here's a little pseudocode to illustrate (might be what you had in mind idk):
core:

interface INetInterface {
    void sendEvent(string event);
}
...
INetInterface netInterface = ...; // Some implementation supplied by the `html` module
netInterface.sendEvent("foo");

html:

class HTMLNetInterfaceImpl implements INetInterface {
    public void sendEvent(string event) {
        js_sendEvent(event);
    }
    private static native void js_sendEvent(string event) /*-{
        // Regular-old JS here to call socket.io directly
        socket.emit(event, {});
    }-*/;
}
frozen portal
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Okay, I do believe that's what I'm doing!

pearl ore
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👍

frozen portal
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Almost done with the GWT-friendly implementation

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I'll get back to you if I have trouble with the non-GWT implementation

#

also
/*-{ }-*/
I discovered this notation today and... it's not a comment? meeseeks_surprised

pearl ore
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It is

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It's just that the GWT compiler specifically is looking for it and will recognize that you want the contents to be treated as JavaScript

frozen portal
#

Woow

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That's amazing

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Holy shit I might actually be able to do this

pearl ore
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Some project, can't remember the name, lets you do the same thing with C++ which is neat. Creating native wrappers can be a pain sometimes.

frozen portal
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Currently going over the part of my code that set all the Socket.IO callbacks

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looking good?

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after the etc comment is the old code

pearl ore
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Eh, hard to tell without context

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Like what socketInterface is, for example

frozen portal
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The interface of socket IO

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which in this case is a "GWTSocketInterface"

pearl ore
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Oh okay. Yeah, seems fine. Keep in mind potential threading issues since you're using Runnable, I've slapped myself in the face over that more than once

frozen portal
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I'm somewhat scared about that :/

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Though a LOT of the old code upon receiving data would go to a runnable anyways since if I didnt I would get the error that stuff is getting instantiated without being in a "gdx context"

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so it should be fine..?

pearl ore
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Yeah it's fine, just something to keep in the back of your head.

frozen portal
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yep

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also I have to make a custom type of runnable since normal runnables dont take in parameter data and these need to

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am i right or would that be a big no-no

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(Just discovered "lambda expression" and wow! they look cool)

pearl ore
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Yep, that lol

frozen portal
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(i hope there's no risk using em)

#

What do you mean

pearl ore
#

The run method intentionally doesn't have parameters, because it's starting a different thread. It doesn't make sense. But you do want data in that thread, so you'd extend Runnable with parameters in the constructor and make them member variables.

sudden dome
#

Runnables don't start threads, though

pearl ore
#

00f

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Yes you are correct

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Threads start runnables

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🤦‍♂️

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thx

sudden dome
#

you can look at Consumer for a type that brings in a parameter and doesn't return anything

frozen portal
#

Is this fine..?

sudden dome
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you lose a lot of type definition by it being varargs of just type Object

frozen portal
#

but it could be anything, right

#

is there a better way to do it?

sudden dome
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Maybe -- I'm not the best to jump in on that part of the conversation. If you can define your data with some structure -- say a parent class / base type -- that might help

frozen portal
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I have to rethink this anyways since if I were to continue I'd run into problems

#

specifically JSON objects not being gwt-friendly

sudden dome
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I've used GWT a long time ago, but not at all in this way so not sure there. Could you use a Map instead?

frozen portal
#

not sure

sudden dome
#

also, are you importing any library for the JSONObject ?

frozen portal
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but I might just scrape the runnables and just define all the different callback setters inside the Socket implementation

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that way it knows what to do by default

#

it's not like I'm making custom callbacks depending on conditions anyways

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just "when you get this data, do these things to these variables"

sudden dome
#

yeah, I think more or less you're dealing with serialization/deserialization there, where you're losing type information as it's deserialized, so everything is a bunch of Objects

frozen portal
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perhaps (big words 😵)

sudden dome
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serialization = converting objects/data to bytes, and deserialization converts bytes back to objects

frozen portal
#

Well then I don't think that's true, since the novelty of Socket.IO is that instead of having to serialize everything some basic data types like String and JSONObject as directly sent and recieved

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It's just that if I want to make a general "on" method work I need to allow for any type of data since the parameters to respond to certain callbacks may be different

sudden dome
#

more or less, that's what happens, though -- all the data that's deserialized is some type of Object, but you don't know what without looking at some other information

#

so you can write a generic event handler which takes the varargs Objects, but you won't know what those represent for sure

#

so then you'll need to look at some data to determine what type the Object(s) really are, and cast them

frozen portal
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right, but I'm only handling a handful of events that I know 100% info about like what's sent and what happens when recieved

pearl ore
#

It might be worth your while to try to see if you can get a JSON library working with GWT, IMO. Then you can just pass in a JSON to Java directly and work from there.

frozen portal
#

but I see what you mean

#

I haven't had too much luck getting libraries to work in GWT 😦

sudden dome
#

ahh well, maybe not -- in their sample it says they use Vert.x for the server implementation of web sockets

frozen portal
#

I dont want to have to redo my server side code :/

sudden dome
#

well for the client side it might be okay then

pearl ore
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If your server is socket.io then your client needs to be socket.io. It uses web sockets but there's a lot in the middle that they add to make it cleaner to use.

sudden dome
#

Hmmm could be. I thought they just added some fallbacks like long-polling and other methods

frozen portal
#

i came up with I think the dumbest possible solution but itll work

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without getting a JSON gwt to work, my only other option was to like, create a switch statement for the on method and do different code depending on the event id, and ALSO would require certain variable references to work

#

so fuck it, ill just let that class do all the work

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now if I did get a JSON GWT lib to work I wouldnt have to do that but

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hmm

pearl ore
#

Suggestion, get a proof of concept with your current method to make sure it will work (with GTW, Java, socket.io, etc., just at a basic level to make sure it doesn't not work), then you can put in the work to get a JSON library working to make your life easier.

frozen portal
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I HAVE JUST DISCOVERED IM A FUCKING DUMBASS

#

WOW

pearl ore
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Except you can only use that in your html module, your core module doesn't reference GWT. Unless you add it.

frozen portal
#

Oh

#

shoot I was already undoing code

#

How do I add it @pearl ore ?

#

just normal build.gradle stuff?

pearl ore
#

I think

frozen portal
#

oh thank god

#

i got scared

#

time to redo my undoing

#

trying to figure out how to write this stuff again...

#

nvm i dumb

#

I lost some cool information I was having before

#

now it's "get" and I have to cast to string :/

frozen portal
#

my eyes...

#

just finished the transition... i guess I can try actually running this now (on desktop) 😮

pearl ore
#

🤞

frozen portal
#

I got an answer from the server!... but it's still sending the data in the wrong form
Exception in thread "EventThread" java.lang.ClassCastException: class org.json.JSONObject cannot be cast to class com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONObject (org.json.JSONObject and com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONObject are in unnamed module of loader 'app')

#

... I hope making the server send GWT Json objects rather than regular Json objects isn't going to be horribly difficult

#

@pearl ore

pearl ore
#

What's your code on the client side from socket.io to Java?

#

Like your native function I guess

frozen portal
#

oh my god you're right

#

i am very tired, sorry

#

Oh god now I understand

#

what I will have to do to make this cross-compatible

#

between desktop and HTML

#

oh my god no

#

well its fine the desktop build is only for myself to test with anyways...

#

maybe if the game gets popular I'll release a desktop version and THEN the trouble will begin

#

for now I can keep being dumb about it right @pearl ore

pearl ore
#

Apparently not too bad, looks like there's a few Socket.io libraries in C++ and Java. 1.x, but still. You just have to downgrade socket.io on your server if you're using >2 and then get a different JSON library instead of using GWT

frozen portal
#

Wait what?

#

I dont understand what you mean

#

You mean, what I would have to do if I wanted to be cross-compatible?

pearl ore
#

Yea

frozen portal
#

oh okay

#

yeah better not even think about it for now

#

Uh oh... I have bad news

# 
``` still happens after I made sure that my GWT socket implementation used GWT Json
#

this is the method:

    public void emit(String event, Object... args) {
        try {
            JSONObject data = new JSONObject();
            for(int i = 0; i < args.length-1; i+=2){
                data.put((String)args[i], (JSONValue)args[i+1]);
            } socket.emit(event, data);
        } catch (JSONException e) {
            System.out.println("SOCKET.IO: Error sending data to server in \"" + event + "\" event.");
        }
    }```
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the import is correct

import com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONObject;
import com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONValue;```
#

maybe I should reload my project and it just didnt update

#

let see

pearl ore
#

This is from Java to JavaScript right?

#

You can't cast an Object to a JSONValue like that

frozen portal
#

I suppose, if you mean JS as in my server

pearl ore
#

You need to instantiate it

#

(JSONValue)args[i+1]

frozen portal
#

wait, what do I instantiate, the value?

# 
foo = args[i+1];```???
pearl ore
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Well, okay. That's actually not what's causing the exception.

#

I take it back lol, a bit tired

#

It might be an issue but better to tackle one thing at a time

frozen portal
#

(reloaded and it still happens)

#

Oh wait a dang minute

pearl ore
#

For some reason it's using org.json.JSONObject instead of com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONObject

#

As far as I can tell

frozen portal
#

I think I know what happened!

#

So the first time I got the error, it's because I had sent the non-GWT friendly JSON data and expected to get GWT-friendly JSON data

#

I think that as a result of that, the connection with the server broke, the server didn't finish initializing me as a player, and thus the information that I disconnected wasn't sent after I left

#

Meaning that the server is still holding old data that is non-GWT friendly

#

so lets try restarting the server and see if that fixes it

#

does that sound possible @pearl ore ?

#

ok nevermind, i was wrong

pearl ore
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non-GWT friendly? JSON is JSON

#

The only thing that matters is that it's going from JS --> Java and Java --> JS correctly

frozen portal
#

ah yeah makes sense, when it goes to the server it doesnt matter whether is gwt json or not

#

the server sees it all the same

#

so what could the problem be?

#

I don't think i'm sending normal json anywhere

pearl ore
#

I mean the exception is hinting at it

#

For some reason it's using org.json.JSONObject instead of com.google.gwt.json.client.JSONObject
As far as I can tell

frozen portal
#

right, but why?

pearl ore
#

Why indeed 😛

#

Probably an import somewhere, dunno

frozen portal
#

could it be because my gwt socket io interface uses these?

# 
import io.socket.client.Socket;```
pearl ore
#

AFAIK imports are transitive, see if there are imports in those classes that are messing with anything

frozen portal
#

I think the names I'm using might be confusing me
I'm calling the browser/other modules one "GWT socket interface" because socket.io doesn't work with GWT
and the HTML one "JSNI socket interface" because I'm using jsni (am I? i dont even know yet lol)

#

but that's dumb

#

ill just call them "Web" and "NonWeb"

#

I'm sorry, I checked all imports but I see no mention of org.json JSON objects 😐

#

@pearl ore 😰

#

i'm not using it, but......

pearl ore
#

Hmm

frozen portal
#

should I just grab the java library, replace all usages of JSON to gwt json ones, compile it back to a jar [THING I DONT KNOW HOW TO DO YET] and import that as a library?

pearl ore
#

Are you able to get rid of your try-catch statement and just let the exception happen? It'll help pinpoint exactly where it's happening

#

Or debug and step over and try to find it

frozen portal
#

It's not getting caught

#

ill debug

#

should I do what I said above @pearl ore ?

pearl ore
#

What Java library?

frozen portal
#

yeah should I just make my own custom copy of it

#

I don't know how to turn it into a jar so I can import the library yet

pearl ore
#

?

#

This doesn't sound kosher lol

frozen portal
#

What part of it sounds bad

pearl ore
#

should I just grab the java library, replace all usages of JSON to gwt json ones, compile it back to a jar

frozen portal
#

where's the issue?

#

im guessing that might not be okay but I dont get why

pearl ore
#

There's almost never a need to do that. The only time I've ever seen it done was to swap out XNA for MonoGame in Terraria.

#

What library are you referring to?

frozen portal
#

I'm guessing since they never intended for any of it to be GWT-compatible they didn't think to use GWT-compatible classes

#

So when my app recieves JSON data it will automatically assign it to a org.json JSON object

#

and after that from what I understand it's impossible to convert one into the other

pearl ore
#

Hang on, let's take a step back. So you have LibGDX with a desktop and HTML targets. Then you are referencing the Java Socket.IO library. Which doesn't work in GWT, of course (if I found the same one you did). But then you are using the JavaScript version of socket.io so that it can be used in GWT?

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Or am I missing something

frozen portal
#

currently I still haven't done the HTML implementation of my Socket interface, I'm still on the non-web one

#

which simply calls methods to the Java Socket.IO library that I already have

#

what I was proposing was to modify that library so that it transfers gwt JSON objects and not org.json ones

#

if you have a better solution of course i am all ears, im just making uneducated guesses

pearl ore
#

Ah, okay. So personally, I'd stick with org.json when you're using core. That way core doesn't need to reference GWT. You can convert from GWT's JSONObject to org.json's JSONObject in your implementation when going from JS --> Java and Java --> JS. Simplest way is to stringify the JSON and then have the other type decode it back.

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Or you can do it from JavaScript. Instead of the native function returning JSONObject, return string and just do return object.stringify();. Then you can decode it into an org.json.JSONObject.

frozen portal
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You mean, decode it into a gwt JSONObject? that sounds good

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if thats what you mean

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@pearl ore Is that what you mean or did you really mean decode it into a org.json JSONObject

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So from Java --> JS, Java uses org.json.JSONObject. Inside your implementation in your html project, you can convert from org.json.JSONObject to a string (stringify the JSON object). When you call the JS native function pass a string instead of a JSON object (static native void js_Function(String jsonStr), for example). Then your JS function can parse it into a JSON object (let jsonObj = JSON.parse(jsonStr);) and send it off to socket.io.
From JS --> Java, have the function return a string (static native String js_Function(), for example) and your JS can stringify the JSON object before returning it (return JSON.stringify(jsonObj);). Then you can turn that string into an org.json.JSONObject and pass it back.

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That way your core only uses org.json.JSONObject, which is what the Socket.IO library uses anyway.

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Just to be 100% clear, when you say "Java --> JS" or back, you do not mean "Client --> Server" (server being in JS), right?

pearl ore
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Nope

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On your client, you have to call JavaScript at some point in order to use the JavaScript version of socket.io. That's what I'm referring to.

frozen portal
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Alright

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Currently reverting to using JSONObject so I can test for Desktop and be 100% that this can work, then we'll worry about JS

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should be good soon

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Great, the game totally works! 😄

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for desktop

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The interface only uses 3 methods

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@pearl ore

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I KNOW this is a dumb thing to ask

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and you're probably facepalming

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but uh how do I make it understand this is JS

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(At least when I'm through with figuring this out I'll be able to release the basic LibGDX app working under this source.io framework for cross-compatibility so people won't have to go through the same struggle 😄 )

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@pearl ore sorry for pinging (its getting very late)

pearl ore
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Semicolon

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After the comment

frozen portal
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ohhh

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i was looking at how the library I linked yesterday was doing it and I didnt notice that

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thanks

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now I gotta figure out how to do the thing you said and I'm almost out of libgdx hell

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while im figuring it out here's the start of the class and I'm certain I didn't do it right

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as in there is nothing I've written that would point towards the JS library

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and also I'm using the incompatible JSON objects but I know I have to change that

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@pearl ore

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are you here?

frozen portal
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man we're getting close to getting this working, im happy