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#Master/GM/Legend restrictions & ranked ladder integrity MASTER THREAD.
tidal drift
timid stump
spoke to some trusted people yesterday and theyre also playing with the idea of a time-limited que daily
like the one weve mentioned in here
raven mist
if you're euw that means you're typing in portuguese to your teammates in the chat ?
isn't Hight like 4,000 rp. so yes while it may be difficult, the system works
timid stump
🐟
raven mist
maybe they understand wingdings too
tidal drift
if you're euw that means you're typing in portuguese to your teammates in the ch...
Oh! another bad faith engagement farmer, apologies for being charitable in my reply - you're blocked buddy!
raven mist
bro is @ing me btw HAHA. good one
hope the wingdings in chat shotcalling for your team works out. maybe you take a visit back to d1 before you realize the communication and decision making skills it takes to be an effective leader
wicked cedar
hope the wingdings in chat shotcalling for your team works out. maybe you take a...
furotiza is a boosted/bug abuser, don't ask him too much
he cry about restrictions because his boosters rank up legend too fast and he is stuck alone in master
raven mist
people in league of legends gm+ also cry about that shit bc they are duo abusers
how incredible is it that in this game you're 33% of the impact, as opposed to 20% from a moba, but then since there's so much teamplay and pinging and stuff, you control at least 50% of the game's outcome if you play with a captain playstyle
timid stump
how incredible is it that in this game you're 33% of the impact, as opposed to 2...
i promise u i am 80% of my teams impact at minimum
raven mist
20% of my games have micah in them and he's engaging by himself and quite literally carrying his teammates' corpses to victory
2,000+ rp
Hight queues with an ante of like 55+, 0 bonus, but we have some peaker whining in the threads
wicked bough
how incredible is it that in this game you're 33% of the impact, as opposed to 2...
Bro is assuming they actually listen 😂
wicked bough
20% of my games have micah in them and he's engaging by himself and quite litera...
The reqson why this logic is bad is cus not everyone eqnts to play a fucming highly mobile dps.
And the reason people are even fucking asking to remove restrictions is due to it being more fun no other reason.
raven mist
it's not fun once they start losing
if you look at ranked flex in LoL, you're allowed to queue with friends from any elo, and it's the most disgusting chinese boosting abomination you've ever seen. No one takes it seriously. You need soloQ to have ranked integrity
no one has desire to queue up for a rank if the rank itself is devoid of meaning and value
belittling that concept will get your fastest drop in playerbase
worldly flicker
it has no value or meaning right now anyway
its a playtime indicator, not a skill indicator
but compared to normals i ACTUALLY get to fight SOME good players
wicked bough
no one has desire to queue up for a rank if the rank itself is devoid of meaning...
I guarantee you this game's ranked had more meaning with no restrictions.
Getting into close to no high elo lobbies, being forced to 1v3 basically the entire game, then getting told to die irl cus you didn't go in and fight against a team legit 3 levels above yours. Who in the fuck would want to ever play that? Then you can't even try to avoid it cus the game just doesn't even let you play with friends.
For the first 2 or so weeks of 1.0 there was high wlo lobbies very consistently and if you just watched streamers during that time you'd know that to be true.
Now there just isn't.
Is it because we have less players at that level? Yes. But we have less players because of the restrictions.
raven mist
its a playtime indicator, not a skill indicator
in low maybe, but i think master+ is definitely such a big increase in difficulty
i got stuck m4 for 10 days but i've recently started climbing again. i think lower skilled people will hit that wall and never get past it
worldly flicker
in low maybe, but i think master+ is definitely such a big increase in difficult...
it's just not
its the same players
the quality has been genuinely abyssmal
raven mist
the same players but as soon as you hit master+ you get 0 bonus (most of the time 0. but sometimes you get 5 or 10 rarely) and lose like 40% of your rp
idk the ranked distribution but the amount of players that are in both d1 and m4 has to be like 10:1 compared to m3
i think plenty of people are unskilled enough to be hardstuck plat/diamond/m4 forever
autumn jewel
To add quality to ranked. There needs to be bonus points removed. And not let people gain RP in plat going 8th place 3 kills. And let people duo queue at least
Bottom 6 finish shouldn't gain. Lower kill value. So people are playing supervive not chase sim.
raven mist
that incentive to kill people is what makes the game fun and fast paced. with no incentive, people will just play extremely f*ing slow and not interact ever because fighting is risky
no one wants to sit as a bush for placement
autumn jewel
I guess. But if the map wasnt omega huge and circle timer was faster it would be unavoidable
digital sundial
idk the ranked distribution but the amount of players that are in both d1 and m4...
yea
digital sundial
in low maybe, but i think master+ is definitely such a big increase in difficult...
its a difficulty increase because you still get place with golds but u dont get any of the quirky bonuses for carrying
raven mist
as it is now with the top 5 teams left, fighting just sucks. You put yourself in a volatile position to get collapsed on and are very unlikely to get past 3rd or 4th. playing slow and only fighting weak teams for knocks is the meta rn i feel
everyone in their own little clumps of 3 controlling a small area. rarely interacting
if you go forward and get 2 knocks and get reduced to 40% hp, piranhas smell the blood and you get giga 3rd 4th partied
wicked bough
Bottom 6 finish shouldn't gain. Lower kill value. So people are playing superviv...
Kills already are not worth much tbh. Seeing some people still go minus with 10+ kills off of a 6th place.
Smth that could maybe be nice is multiply the Kill value based on your placement.
Not too sure how they could do this and avoid Kill farming tho.
floral tide
Imo they shouldn't be rewarding rp directly;
If kills and placement gave you points, and then you rank the teams by points and award rp based on that rank, and mmr, I think the system would be way better without overincentivising kill farming etc.
Would need to wait for the full game to finish to see your rp though
tidal drift
In this thread I make the case for improving ranked integrity
Some people claim to want the same thing, but in the same vein will say that it makes sense that plat/legend players can be on the same team or in the same lobby
Essentially you're just happy you no longer have to pay for elo boosting because some master/GM/legend player now has to do it for free
Idc about your CCU cope it's already been addressed
digital sundial
id prefer my teammates and enemies both be within a division of me
biggest issue i have with ranked is that it doesnt actually give me any idea of my skill level
but we do not have enough players for it tbh
there are like 300 ppl playing ranked na at peak hours
10 games goin and i get 20 minute ques fairly often
if they do anything to quing atm game dies, if they do nothing about quing game dies
tough spot to be in
at dead hours there wouldnt be enough playing people in na to have a lobby for each metal
tidal drift
Address lobby issues for top end of players -> top players return
Top players get put in low lobbies less often -> low elo players not getting stomped by top players
???
Profit
digital sundial
yeah, on the surface you are 100% right
but youre forgetting that when the que goes from 20 minutes to 40 minutes because neither of the two groups are playing with each other
you lose even more people
cause im not waiting 40 minutes to play this game. i cant believe i wait 20 tbh
and i pinky promise you that johnny first game is not gonna wait 40m. hes not gonna spend 6 hours in que to see if he can get to silver
oh look, my que just popped at 18 minutes and i have a gold 2, a diamond 1, and me in master on my team
tidal drift
Well no, the top end have more players so they get queues and it's only the top end 300ish players per server not in the low elo lobbies
glad dirge
whats wrong with WeedKitten40 and NoobCake?
dusty granite
genuinely what the fuck is this hahaha
As I said before... address the fact that rank does not reflect actual skill and you're gucci
wicked bough
Play brall, he's the answer to all your problems
tidal drift
flat lark
What if supervive encouraged a certain time of day for higher ranks to queue? Like if most of the high elo matched games are being played between 6 and 9pm, put a notice in the game menu saying "lowest queue time between 6 and 9pm"? I doubt this will fix much but maybe it could help.?
Would bringing in more players into the game help this situation? Genuinely out of the loop for how this discussion has gone in the other thread(s).
timid stump
What if supervive encouraged a certain time of day for higher ranks to queue? Li...
100%
this pairs with the original suggestion i gave to the devs to make 3man-stacking a limited time-period every day
U could honestly make 2 seperate ranks this way aswell, a soloque rank and a party rank
it genuinely opens up so many options
3 hour time period daily where u get party rank and can 3stack
holy peak
tidal drift
I've been duoing with my buddy and I swear it's so much more playable, I would take the nofill duo over a low elo team mate
Yeah a hype 3 man queue that happens at different times would be ace
digital sundial
my friends are all gold and belong there so i do not have this luxury
dusty granite
U could honestly make 2 seperate ranks this way aswell, a soloque rank and a par...
This was @summer fox's suggestion in January
digital sundial
endless rly been around that long huh?
timid stump
This was <@120690082956050432>'s suggestion in January
This was my suggestion in november 😄
happy to hear more people have this idea
i miss the old feedback category, its a shame they deleted it
wild parrot
wtf did you just say man? we are a real region, and better than you at least, deepshit and the guy on the clip would solo the shit out of you. Xenophobick mf like you can go to ****
golden vault
There's only one difference between you. You received a ton of marketing at the game's launch, and yet the number of players is only declining, while we in Brazil didn't receive a cent at launch, and we have a small but stable audience, doing scrims and so on. So I wish you had more respect for our region. When your region is in disrepair, idiots like you (not generalizing, because I know you're not all like this guy), who think you know everything without even knowing the conditions in another place, will be crying over the lack of attention they received, unlike us, who are still fighting.
slim copper
its funny to read that. A good portion of the legend rankings are made up of Brazilian players, and I'm absolutely certain that if you were put in a lobby with some of the legends from our region, you'd stop playing because you'd feel so bad. I really feel sorry for your region having a player like you, who undoubtedly has below-average skills in 99% of the games he plays and who, for some unknown reason, wants to spread hate towards a region you don't even know
who knows, maybe one day the game will get out of the bad situation it's in and we'll have the pleasure of crushing your skull in a match
digital sundial
e eu namorei uma garota brasileira
slim copper
typical frustrated player who pretends to be good but in the game cant do anything
digital sundial
typical frustrated player who pretends to be good but in the game cant do anythi...
ask him his elo
slim copper
ask him his elo
i don't even need to know, I'm sure it must be horrible, I work all week and study and I definitely have more points than him, I was in the top 5 until a few days ago
willow#luna
timid stump
why are yall so hostile
golden vault
ask him his elo
This guy isn't even on his own country's scrim server, you can tell his level.
timid stump
wtf did you just say man? we are a real region, and better than you at least, de...
i saw some very cool clips from brazil, idk why theyre so mean, respect to ur region bro
golden vault
why are yall so hostile
Do you think it's right for a guy to be xenophobic and everyone just leaves him alone?
timid stump
bra stop throwing words out there
respect brazil
dont respect que restrictions
👍
golden vault
Just block and move on lol
we are just showing an idiot that our region is alive
We want to show the company that we also care about the game and we want some attention that was not given and was promised more than a month ago in another post.
wild parrot
i saw some very cool clips from brazil, idk why theyre so mean, respect to ur re...
thx dude, we see your love ggs
tidal drift
we are just showing an idiot that our region is alive
I hear you, and for what it's worth Devs are listening and in communication with top players trying to solve issues within the game.
sand path
betinhas foram moggados
lilac hemlock
dry pendant
Funny you should say that, you're just a rat to me. If you made my list, I'd make a point of hunting you down on the map and showing you what a good SA legend does. You think you're a good player? To me, you're a rat, a lowly player.
@raven mist
You're clearly xenophobic, a trash player, and a human being. I really wish I could play against you and take all your league points from this match to the point where you'd give up playing. I love beating players like you in ranked queues. You scumbag!
wicked bough
For once paqt is right
I hope you guys realize this is just showing your region is bad and toxic... not helping at all and arguing for no fucking reason off of just 1 statement. Even if thatg statement was bad this is just worse by a good amount.
Not helping at all, so pls stop.
dry pendant
our region is toxic for repudiating xenophobia, apparently we see another xenophobe
bitter cove
Woah
Woah
Lets uhh calm down
I agree that Satanael needs to grow up a bit, but no need to go that hard lol
dry pendant
@raven mist I would like to invite you to watch my stream on Twitch, and I see that you also have a channel on Twitch, I would love to see you play lol, I want to see your player level, since you say that ours is low. Show me your level.
raven mist
its funny to read that. A good portion of the legend rankings are made up of Bra...
i'm grandmaster in league of legends on NA. from my experience, playing on minor servers, they are several ranks lower in terms of skill. so even if you get legend in a small region, the level of skill is not the same, it's not comparable, and is elo inflated
in the league of legends scene, north america merged with LAN and BR, both of which are trash regions, and never win https://lol.fandom.com/wiki/LTA/2025_Season
lots of emotion, not much skill
timid stump
no need to argue @dry pendant he is ragebaiting you too much
the ego of 1 person doesnt matter and it doesnt represent the community, so dont worry
maybe we can go back to complaining about que restrictions? 😛
raven mist
yeah don't make up shit, thanks
i don't want to talk about that topic but i will respond to defamation
timid stump
thats what this channel is for tho
raven mist
i only started playing since launch. i'm not the best player in the world, but i'm up to master 3 rn, using a lot of transferable skills from league
dry pendant
i'm grandmaster in league of legends on NA. from my experience, playing on minor...
What does League of Legends have to do with Supervive? Want to talk about other games? Has your country ever won a World Cup? I can mention Brazil in several here: CSGO, Valorant, Clash Royale, Rocket League, Raibonsix, Fortnite. Name one from your country since you insist on talking about it?
timid stump
@crimson ibex they speaking ur language bro
tidal drift
bitter cove
Hey guys, this was a good channel, now its just you 2 having a micrometer dick measureing contest, lets stop
dry pendant
the ego of 1 person doesnt matter and it doesnt represent the community, so dont...
You're right, he's a runt. And so poor, he mentioned that he's a GM in League of Legends, lol
glad dirge
Hey guys, this was a good channel, now its just you 2 having a micrometer dick m...
picometer sounds better brah
bitter cove
yea
raven mist
so weird
tidal drift
responding to ragebait
succesfully ragebaited
just block and move on
profit?
Also stop typing ad homs in this channel, if you want to talk here stay on topic ty
raven mist
mb shouldn't respond to raging br
i don't ping in replies but other people do, weird !
dry pendant
I have no intention of straying from the real subject, since we are here for the same purpose, but you can't ignore a guy with an ego this big committing xenophobia and thinking he's the center of attention because he was a GM in League of Legends, I have to laugh at a guy like this, you can't ignore what I read, but anyway. let's continue the real discussion
raven mist
me when i go play on a minor server like LAN 🤡
don't call myself challenger bc that's not a real region
stone relic
the guy using LOL to feel superior, where have we come to
bitter cove
don't call myself challenger bc that's not a real region
Dude, just stop, you're making it worse for yourself
dry pendant
Why insist on talking about League of Legends in a survivors' community if you have a bruised ego, dwarf?
gloomy ingot
Lets keep the subject to SUPERVIVE on this thread ty !
dry pendant
open your twitch and show us you playing supervive, I'm curious to see. plss
stone relic
looking at the global top 100, Brazilians are dominating everything and the guy comes to tell me something crazy like this lol
graceful vector
looking at the global top 100, Brazilians are dominating everything and the guy ...
Well low playercount regions have bots
like.. a lot of them
Not to say the players aren't good - but that is a thing
glad dirge
also og people dont play ranked i assume
wicked bough
looking at the global top 100, Brazilians are dominating everything and the guy ...
Ranked doesn't even indicate skill ao i don't get that.
timid stump
looking at the global top 100, Brazilians are dominating everything and the guy ...
its true for many games but in supervive the top100 leaderboard is kind of a meme
graceful vector
yea
opaque meteor
its not a meme just a good indicator of who plays the most tbh
And with how its setup, regional differences matter too much.
stone relic
This really makes sense, but we're just trying to improve this and a crazy person comes along to belittle it?
bitter cove
This really makes sense, but we're just trying to improve this and a crazy perso...
Yea, he had no place to do that at all
opaque meteor
its w/e, i got eyes on the thread now, sorry that i wasnt here sooner.
tidal drift
Ty nerryl
opaque meteor
Further attempts of derailing the discussion will just get timed out
graceful vector
yep
tidal drift
Garoh & Satanael typically derail all and any threads that they enter, just as a heads up
dry pendant
Garoh & Satanael typically derail all and any threads that they enter, just as a...
sim
opaque meteor
Yeah im aware, i dont read all discussions but ive noticed too lol
dry pendant
This guy is simply here just to show that he is a GM in League of Legends lol
opaque meteor
i was master in EUW before gm was a thing, doesnt really change the fact that the ranked ladder and systems a br needs to work dont really compare to any moba
bitter cove
A game with 12 teams per match cant compare its ranked system to a game with 2 teams per match, lol
opaque meteor
Looking at how its setup in sv, basically needing alotta players and no restrictions to even be competitive, no regions ranked ladder is a true display of skill
dont let people that take pride in their ranks tell u otherwise.
If ranked would work, we wouldnt need restrictions and bronze players matched into a legend players team
dry pendant
i was master in EUW before gm was a thing, doesnt really change the fact that th...
I find it funny that I played with 160ms on the EUW server in arena, and we crushed it in the arena. lol
we see a moderator with an ego, a league of legends player, lol
stone relic
I even apologize for what I said, it's okay to say the fact that our region has fewer players, but there's no need to be rude, I had to say it lol
opaque meteor
we see a moderator with an ego, a league of legends player, lol
you misunderstood what i said, i literally disagreed that rank justifys ego
dry pendant
They are totally different games, different mechanics, different play styles, what a stupid comparison to make.
opaque meteor
I even apologize for what I said, it's okay to say the fact that our region has ...
every region lacks players to have competitive enough ladders, restrictions are great evidence of that, that statement wasnt just insulting, it was wrong too lol
Its like 2 people that starve but one just got a piece of bread and starts making fun of the other
Youre both still starving
bitter cove
TBH, I think the restrictions are the reason that there aren't enough players for comp ladders
opaque meteor
yep
I hard agree.
You cant market a game towards casuals and take the core part of casual gaming away: playing together.
dry pendant
TBH, I think the restrictions are the reason that there aren't enough players fo...
yes
tidal drift
Also I'm so sorry but I'm grateful to this thread for the new copy pasta:
Funny you should say that, 🗣️ you're just a rat to me. 🐀 If you made my list, 📜 I'd make a point of hunting you down on the map 🏹 🎯 and showing you what a good SA legend does. 😤 💯 You think you're a good player? 🤣 To me, you're a rat, a ⬇️ lowly player. ⬇️
opaque meteor
I said it back in the old thread and ill say it again, we had 1 week after 1.0 drop max to save the ladder from dying again
and that was only possible with the removal of restrictions
As soon as a large portion hit masters
the queues felt like absolute shit
tidal drift
Fortunately we're in talks with devs to come to a resolution about this
opaque meteor
Before that it was a wet dream for everyone that loves Supervive.
dry pendant
But how can I compete with a completely shitty matchmaker, where I see in my friends list, players of the MASTER rank, playing with low elos instead of putting these master players to our queue in the legend. It makes much more sense
opaque meteor
But how can I compete with a completely shitty matchmaker, where I see in my fri...
it wasnt like that early on
experienced players basically queued on their high elo mmr
so they were in their own games for a while
but the problem with restrictions is, that the teams didnt seem to have fills in similar enough mmr, so they could even get a bronze player
which felt like it brought the mmr of the lobby down enough for more and more bad squads to show up in these games
dry pendant
Also I'm so sorry but I'm grateful to this thread for the new copy pasta:
rsrsrss racists and xenophobes are always good at hunting them down on the map and taking away their league points, don't you agree?
opaque meteor
which ultimately made ranked feel like absolute dogshit again
opaque meteor
Like why queue if i cant play with friends, have to eloboost noobs and also play against absolute dogshit or smurfs stacking
I just wish theyd aknowledge that the upper ladder isnt 1 squad winning 80% of games anymore
tidal drift
Like why queue if i cant play with friends, have to eloboost noobs and also play...
no ability to queue with friends creates smurf = problem not gone away
opaque meteor
and forget about the entire legend queue bs
I dont think its nessecary in EU
i dont think itd be nessecary in NA either
and i dont think catering towards small pop regions is a good way of populating the game
if enough people show up to play this game in NA and EU
enough people in small pop will follow
opaque meteor
no ability to queue with friends creates smurf = problem not gone away
well it still dilutes high elo games enough for even silver level players to climb to master if they just play enough games
and then even the most casual of casuals will get there
cant play with their friends
and stop playing
dry pendant
It's difficult for new players to emerge in these regions if the devs ignore our existence, a game released without any marketing, comical in
opaque meteor
i really wanna know real datapoints on this because in the first discussion past 1.0 about this, a dev literally claimed the 1 squad 80% issue still existed so i doubt their data on it is accurate/they even still review it
Becaus everyone that was playing in eu at least knew that wasnt the case
eu for the first 2 days was constant war
Law of the Jungle
Fun as fuck
opaque meteor
It's difficult for new players to emerge in these regions if the devs ignore our...
They just dont make the game for u, i think with big content drops the playercount will spike enough for people to still show up and if the game keeps growing, the playerpop issue at least for a somewhat competitive queue will resolve itself
league is the same too
You cant spool up a live service game nowadays and create it for casuals.
dry pendant
Many people on the servers stop playing because they can't play with their friends when they reach certain levels. I don't see a problem with that, but most people find it frustrating. How can you train a team that wants to compete one day if they can't play together? It's comical.
open moss
Many people on the servers stop playing because they can't play with their frien...
In practically every team based eSport out there the ranked ladder is the worst possible place to train a team for competition. Outside ladders or tournaments are the place to be and Supervive already has this
dry pendant
this is obvious, but the synchronization comes from the ranked queues
timid stump
Many people on the servers stop playing because they can't play with their frien...
100%
If u look at dota2, teams can 5manstack all the way until they are among the top 0.5%
and then they only get matched with other top0.5%
so they still get competitive games and great practice
in supervive if i want to practice mercury for tournaments, i cant do so because its impossible in soloque.
she is communication based and i need my team to do setups
the same gos for many characters like eva, tetra, bishop etc
dry pendant
The devs don't think that if they let friends play together in ranked queues, consequently, many reached the top, and ended the matchmaker difficulty, playing together makes it much easier for some to climb, especially friends who come from other games together
dry pendant
she is communication based and i need my team to do setups
yes
opaque meteor
The devs don't think that if they let friends play together in ranked queues, co...
with how its setup currently, instead of bad players being buffed by their premade teams, the entire ladder is basically nerfed
with how its set up right now, this issue is even worse.
not people with teammates get boosted
everyone does.
and everyone reaches master and gets restricted
bitter cove
The devs don't think that if they let friends play together in ranked queues, co...
TBH, the biggest issue in the past were death squads, which is why the restrictions were added
opaque meteor
which btw, most of the top% playerbase didnt even complain about
according to them we had no fun
Idk where they got that from
i had less fun after they added restrictions
i think most of us agree.
they shouldve made sure lil timmy that complains about it after a bad game in #🍞│general shouldnt have gotten into these games instead
graceful vector
yep
opaque meteor
Devs need to understand that playing comp means that we want to go through cock and ball torture for hundreds of games just so we start winning 2/10 games against the top squad instead of 1/10
that progress is what people sign up for when they queue ranked
dusty granite
eu for the first 2 days was constant war
same with na
you get a truly mixed bag of skills but
many skilled players were playing so
the numbers leveled out
and the fact that there was nothing to lose
people played way more on the edge
dry pendant
I see this as a problem, 3 legends of difficult players, playing against 3 masters, but I learned this way, playing against 4 legends in ranked queues and today I don't see any legend that I have difficulty playing against, I see that this has made me a great player. Playing against the best makes you better, if players who have competitive spirits like me, don't care about this. I see it as a problem only for casuals, because they would have difficulty playing against these legends.
slim copper
Well low playercount regions have bots
no matches with high elo players currently have bots in our region
wicked bough
I see this as a problem, 3 legends of difficult players, playing against 3 maste...
For casual it is kind of an issue but I find that si weird cus like they shouldn't even be in those lobbies and they likely wouldn't most of the time if there were enough people which there were at the start of this season
People do not like the disadvantage that brings tho. But idk didn't feel that bad to me.
Like the disadvantage just did not feel all that bad.
I hold a similar view of the armory.
slim copper
For casual it is kind of an issue but I find that si weird cus like they shouldn...
The big problem is the way they are marketing the game, the strategy used was the same two times in a row and player retention does not occur, I hope they realize this as soon as possible and use other more effective ways to promote the game and be able to retain a good portion of players who know it
undone quiver
no matches with high elo players currently have bots in our region
took me 30sec on op.gg to confirm that this in incorrect, always 1/2 bot teams
opaque meteor
if it takes 2 seconds to check ur claim, please check it urself first T.T
i see this way too often lately
slim copper
took me 30sec on op.gg to confirm that this in incorrect, always 1/2 bot teams
Whose op.gg are you looking at, friend? There aren't any matches at the times when we legends are playing bots in them, the game is maintained here by the community we created, I have no need to "invent" something about it lol
Whenever there were bots in our games we complained here on the server, if there was still a sign of them in our games we would be complaining, I guarantee you
slim copper
and where are the bots in all the matches as you stated? lol
undone quiver
9th 11th
slim copper
bot?
undone quiver
bot?
click on last tetra game and tell me where team 10 is
ghost game has 5 bot teams, bishop 1, 6, 3, 4 etc
slim copper
If this is related to bots, the same thing happens in NA often xd
dry pendant
If this is related to bots, the same thing happens in NA often xd
If this is related to bots, the same thing happens in euw often xd
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slim copper
Anyway, I hope that in their future marketing plans, they use a better strategy that will actually be able to retain players instead of paying streamers to play the game for a few hours on their streams and then open League of Legends to play
dry pendant
undone quiver
I never said it doesn't happen in other regions, but you were confidently incorrect.
Funny thing is that even on first week of 1.0 during peak hours EU when we had 10k ccu there would still be 1 forced bot team per lobby
slim copper
This discussion will lead nowhere, and it only started with the comment of an unfortunate person wanting to inferiorize a region for having fewer players than another, we have great players here.
dry pendant
Unfortunately, it's sad to see that this still happens, I, like any other player, never wanted this to happen.
slim copper
I never said it doesn't happen in other regions, but you were confidently incorr...
pardon the interpretation, the way you put it made it seem like you were agreeing with the unfortunate comment from earlier, that we are an "inferior" region for having a bot team in our matches that are mostly eliminated as soon as the game starts, I say because I haven't encountered a bot squad for a few weeks
digital sundial
ngl dont even @ me if ur not in masters
digital sundial
im jokin king dw
i was takin a nap when the mod was sayin not to act like that but i still wanted to say it
wispy tinsel
Omg can you explain what you meant by this
raven mist
the post is in english but the clip is in portuguese, an uncommon language
as well as the chat in portuguese ?xd but not BR, EUW apparently, so the dude is just talking to himself bc no one speaks that
wispy tinsel
Wow thanks for explaining that helped me understand a lot
summer fox
endless rly been around that long huh?
I was rank 1 brall bro https://medal.tv/games/supervive/clips/jcJHWa77qXrh4fx3j?invite=cr-MSw5UkMsMzA3NjY5Njgz&v=107
The fatuglybaby123 MrE duo strikes fear into all duos players
Brall in duos was so peak bro
Took way more skill then squads and even trios now
But it was just like pure fighting perma
Best mechanics win
Most fun this game has ever been
I think our win rate was like 70% or something insane
digital sundial
one hour into que for a ranked game btw
timid stump
@tidal drift try not to smile challenge
digital sundial
hour and 15m que
wispy tinsel
hour and 15m que
the game is trying really hard to find bronze players that match your mmr please try being a little more patient
digital sundial
the game is trying really hard to find bronze players that match your mmr please...
adorable
ill walk all over u bud
ill walk u down
wispy tinsel
Do you promise...
tidal drift
<@148164231999520768> try not to smile challenge
I don't even know how to respond to thiss
digital sundial
Do you promise...
ye 🙂
wispy tinsel
😳
wicked cedar
<@148164231999520768> try not to smile challenge
Wow its hard for casual players to find 2 other friend and they 99% of the time get stomped by full stacks... Ty god there is no full stack legends anymore we are saved
opaque meteor
i was takin a nap when the mod was sayin not to act like that but i still wanted...
it was an obvious joke dw
im not gonna time people out for joking
opaque meteor
<@148164231999520768> try not to smile challenge
improve matchmaking ❌
force everyone to have the same miserable experience ✅
ill never get this mentality
"if I cant have fun noone should be able to" ahh opinion
opaque meteor
Wow its hard for casual players to find 2 other friend and they 99% of the time ...
its not even hard but thats mainly because of out of game efforts. There for example still isnt a partyfinder in the game, which would greatly help with this
graceful vector
no matches with high elo players currently have bots in our region
What i mean with this is that when a game has bots, which all regions do at low queue population, you get inflated RP for that game
Regions with less people have bots more often, and thus gain more RP
or more potential rp, for one team, i should say
overall it's the same amount of RP, but it's most likely going to be funneled into the good players
For example this game i just played, where 6 out of 12 teams were bots
misty summit
digital sundial
no matches with high elo players currently have bots in our region
i played 2 games yesterday as master 3 where my team was the only team of real players
2 games in a row
slim copper
yes friend, the game is dying and losing players every day that passes, enough of this subject, unfortunately there is nothing we can do
digital sundial
tbf i dont think that would help
instead of 9 masters having to duo and solo and there being 4 or 5 teams resulting from it
now thres 3 cause theyre 3 stacking
im not saying masters shouldnt be able to 3 stack im just saying that wont fix the bot issue
bitter cove
Removing restrictions would bring back maybe 100-200 people
wicked bough
If we could get enough high elo players back it'd be huge and no restrictions would probably be fine. If we couldn't then they probably shouldn't be removed.
wicked cedar
Removing restrictions would bring back *maybe* 100-200 people
and make the last 1000 uninstall
bitter cove
Tbh, probably
Its too late to remove restrictions
They would need to do it at the start of the new season or with a big bump in player count
They waited too long
chrome roost
yes
flat lark
remove restrictions and make it so that the only mode to queue is ranked bc splitting an already small playerbase makes it harder for everyone to find a match. leave co-op v ai for the more casual/newer players
chrome roost
remove restrictions and make it so that the only mode to queue is ranked bc spli...
yeah and make noobs get stomped
like thats the exact reason why every new player quited
in december
cause they were getting stomped
digital sundial
yeah and make noobs get stomped
tbf there arent any "new noobs" coming inanymore
digital sundial
cause they were getting stomped
i thought it was because of armory
chrome roost
tbf there arent any "new noobs" coming inanymore
well if they are coming and we do that im sure they wont come
digital sundial
i said in december
ah my bad
digital sundial
well if they are coming and we do that im sure they wont come
if they come theyll be in lobbies with each other
chrome roost
if they come theyll be in lobbies with each other
if we mix ranked and normal que no
they will be with way more experienced players
digital sundial
why would we mix ranked and normal que
new players cant even play ranked, then when they can you would put them in lobbies together
digital sundial
hehehe
chrome roost
i dc
digital sundial
on a real note
i guess i dont hate the idea of mixing the ques but then like
people will just quit because rank is meaningless again
its just based on how many noobs you can squash
so i think i agree w u
flat lark
like thats the exact reason why every new player quited
the reason the ppl i tried bringing in quit was similar i suppose since they said that it was tough to grasp the mechanics since there are an abundance of little things that make a big difference to know.
but like, more players would help the newer ones go vs other newer players rather than being stuck with premade legend stacks filling their lobbies
it's a population problem more than anything else causing imbalanced matches
flat lark
people will just quit because rank is meaningless again
but if u can't even get a match then the game is dead anyway
digital sundial
but if u can't even get a match then the game is dead anyway
so true
flat lark
pop is fixed by making the game appealing and marketing is part of it, but so is gameplay
digital sundial
gameplay for sv is great tho
flat lark
if the game isn't good then people wont bother. it appeals to a niche market already-- people who liked teamfighting in moba top-down games at a competitive level. will be hard to get enough fish with a small net
digital sundial
idk man it could be the best game on earth and if you never see or hear about it you cant play it
flat lark
i have been trying to get my friends to play it but they just don't like the idea of it and dont even try it or quit after 2 or 3 matches
digital sundial
my friends all liked the game a lot but found soloq miserable once they hit ranked
flat lark
i feel bad bc part of me thinks i'm just doing a bad job at bringing people in but like idk what to do differently. i think it might just be a lot of information to learn right off the bat and it's hard to filter out what should be taught 1st and what should come after
digital sundial
loved the mechanics and liked learning them
there is a huge demographic of people that want hard games
with mechanics
they just need to see it at all
flat lark
me too, i'm the type of person that wants to master something and learn more. I think it requires that sort of mentality
wicked bough
yeah and make noobs get stomped
My solution was always m+ are in an entirely different que than everyone else. I choose masters cus that's when you've played for long enough to where you aren't a noob even if you're still bad.
Then if you're queing with people who are below masters(in party) you all get put in the same lobbies due to how this game is with it's 1vN stuff.
Whether this'd work idk but I've liked the sound of it for a while
digital sundial
i think it works perfect tbh it just isnt possible cause playercount 🙁
bitter cove
Tbh, removing restrictions now will cause more harm then good, it took them too long
digital sundial
yeah
wicked bough
Tbh, removing restrictions now will cause more harm then good, it took them too ...
I feel like they could still vwry easily bring back a lot of the people that just aren't playing anymore due to this.
bitter cove
It would bring back, at most, 500 people, but make another 500-800 feel like they are only going against death squads because the playerbase has gotten so low
wicked bough
My solution was always m+ are in an entirely different que than everyone else. I...
I mean if there was 500 I feel like what I said would be possible likely. Even if it's just the same group of people each lobby at higher ranks that'd still be way more fun to most people
opaque meteor
Its too late to remove restrictions
this.
the issue gets overblown the moment the playerbase already ranked up enough through the lack of competitive queues anyways
you either start the season fresh with everyone on bronze with restrictions removed and see if tit actually keeps people out of master enough to have good queue quality and make ranked feel less like a time grind
or you dont remove them and removing them later on is basically a thing of "will this actually do anything outside of having top trios shitting on the silvers that are in there because of the low pop"
I said it back in the first thread already it was a now or never thing
Maybe theyll do it in the next season. I think you also already clocked out of this one regarding queues looking at ur thread in the other disc
Good to see the discussion in this channel dying down as a result, it really isnt something thats wsorth discussing until next season is on the brink of release
digital sundial
it just
sucks that we have to say "guess ill wait a few months to see if ranked is fun again"
i agree with you but it is so painful quing up at high elo
not just for me, like when these little guys are typing "sorry" at the end of their game
like, its not their fault. they shouldnt feel sorry for quing up
opaque meteor
there sadly isnt really a way to fix this since ranked resets are also the only thing that still creates somewhat of an increase in players.
I barely play the game myself because of it since friends quit
like i only played ~20 games on this patch and i dont want to play anymore
and just been enjoying other stuff waiting for them to adress the issues and hopefully do better on next wipe lol
almost feels like playing an extraction shooter
armory amplified all issues i had with the game alot too
tidal drift
Agreed it's too late for anything to make a difference other than a ranked reset, marketing and a gameplay overhaul
I stopped playing supervive too 🫡
inland egret
I did a similar thread days ago, high elo player leaving because of the restriction :s
warm tulip
Agreed it's too late for anything to make a difference other than a ranked reset...
I mean yea these upcoming patches at least I believe are just a build-up to a marketing push in season 2 where they’d inevitably remove restrictions
opaque meteor
hopefully
give competitive gameplay a try
fix ranked
make it feel like something worth anyones time by actually making the grind and skill reflect ur rank
instead of it just being a time marker
that keeps people engaged alot more than feeling like theyre trying to catch up on a broken system
wicked cedar
warm tulip
"games that are just better when played with your friends" 😭