WARMUP mode Feedback discussion

[neat badger]

This first version of this warmup system is really fun, if you had some feedback to give what would it be ?

[flat socket]

Let us respec lvl 4 ability on character swap. It's peak otherwise

[neat badger]

The good :

• Fun and choatic
• Fast fights
• No macro, pure warmup
• No respawn delay when you die
• Being able to choose your items
• Having a better armor when you kill streak
• Good choice of maps.

The bad :

• Maybe a little bit too much ppl in the same lobby, chaos is fun, but it's maybe too much.
• KP passive stacks are kept even if you switch your hunter.
• Being able to roll the soulstealer item.
• The huge lag spike when someone leaves the lobby.

What i would change/add :

• Upon killing someone, refund 25% of your remaining ultimate cooldown. (Except maybe Brall)
• Remove a total of 5 players slots per lobby.
• LVL4 reset ability upon changing your hunter.

[silent blade]

Honestly I think it’s pretty damn fun, I think adding weird balancing or refunds takes away from the fact it’s supposed to be something to do in que.

I also kind of like how chaotic it is with all the players

[pine sedge]

Imo it might be a little too many people in a lobby. Can feel more like a stress/limit-test than warmup. A bit overwhelming. But its a great mode for training mechanics and its fairly enjoyable too (just as I said also a bit stressful).
Also, having to manually upgrade the items at the beginning seems unnecessary. Would rather just choose the item and evolution like in arena.

And lvl 4 ability choice when switching hunter as others have mentioned.

[quartz wing]

I know its supposed to be a warmup but im having fun in it nonetheless

Suggest:

-maybe not the right direction. If this becomes an actual mode (YIPEEE)
-Powers, a one time use~

[granite gate]

warmup has felt more fun than the actual game LOL

[still bridge]

Warm up mode is fun in very small bursts but it is very much not more fun than the actual game

[granite gate]

Idk I quite enjoy it

[still bridge]

ya i mean we are both just stating our opinions

its alot of fun but after the 5-10 minute mark it just gets kinda meh. I think it does a really good job at what its name impiles, warming up your micro for the game. But on its own, theres nothing that makes it interesting to play for a longer period of time.

[tall tangle]

Played it for 4 hours yesterday, felt completely addicted. This is bad because I wanna get better at BR but if I have to choose between soloqueue and sweaty fast-paced deathmatch I'll go warmup each day of the year

They should remove 3-5 players from the max amount of the lobby tho

[acoustic plaza]

For a warmup mode its quite good to warm up to. Reminds me of the sanctum sanctorum in marvel rivals. Funny to mess around in.

[still bridge]

Ya i think as a warm up, its perfect. I just cant agree with other above that its better than actually playing br. Its baically a party game by comparision.

[acoustic plaza]

Reminds me of BapBap (which I kinda used as a warm up for vive a few times)

[white sorrel]

I'd say remove the deathboxes

[olive nymph]

brooo so everyone gets that insane spike? i thought my pc was dyin holy good to know

[wraith kettle]

Uncommon sneekers w

[granite gate]

uncommon furotiza W

[trim rose]

Had a warmup game where I had a celest bot in my party that I could revive with beacon

[trim rose]

On a certain map(s?) you can run to a shop outside ring and buy boots etc.

[violet otter]

I think they should make it so whenever someone gets more than 5 kills they get revealed on the map

[neat badger]

what's the point ?

you already get focused when you have a gold armor

and if you play only hide and seek, it's just not an issue

[violet otter]

i want to hunt whoever has the most kills

and its kinda hard doing that whenever there is 1 billion people fighting in my screen

[wraith kettle]

You can buy boots from any location using the remote shop keybind (normally set to v)

[trim rose]

Oh had no idea 😮

[bronze swan]

I've been very curious about player density. Right now we have a max at 20 which I agree seems a little high. I'll adjust this today. Let me know how it feels over the next few days.

Level 4 resets/hitch on player leave is already on my list. KP passive reset is something I'll add a bug for.

[bronze swan]

I'm kind of in the same boat here. This mode is fun. I also think we are still very much in the novel period. I want to make sure I hear feedback once this mode just becomes the "norm" rather than a shiny new toy.
It's great for passing the time in queue, waiting for friends to get online, learning new characters or different areas of the map BUT I think it lacks the strategic loop a lot of players enjoy.
We have debated on "gamifying" it a bit more with intragame progression (think EVO armor but more systems that make you stronger the better you are performing) but for now wanted to keep it more in line with a true "deathmatch feel" like COD/TF2/etc...
If people continue to enjoy it (and I ever find the time), I think it offers an interesting avenue for mini games to add some variety to the matches. (big team battle, king of the hill, capture the flag). No promises on that one though since there is just so much we need to prioritize before doing something like that.

I say all that, even though this thing is my baby and has been a bit of a passion project for me, so I'm all for enthusiasm for the mode 😄

[worn canyon]

@bronze swan Would it be at all possible to allow us to set the default items we want to start with in arena and warmup? It's a little tedious dropping items at the start of every warmup. It was a frustration for arena too, but there it takes so little time. I don't mean the upgrades, but for example choose to always start with "mana blade + vampiric blade" on ghost

[neat badger]

it's a very good mode for SV, many ppl were waiting for this, and you and the TC team delivered well !

[still bridge]

Adding the mode in is a huge W imo. I think it works in terms of fun because there's no real stakes, I worry that adding on a bunch of systems to it will just make it feel more frustrating when you inevitably lose because of rng.

[bronze swan]

My whole pitch for this was "we have to do kinda egregious things with skill disparity (how wide we go on skill) when making matches, the sure fire way to alleviate that is if we increase queue times, what if waiting in queue wasn't such a chore?" Boom let's make an in queue mode

[mystic remnant]

I think it offers an interesting avenue for mini games to add some variety to the matches. (big team battle, king of the hill, capture the flag)
Yes please

[flat socket]

It's really awesome and saves me the boredom of waiting in queue. Really glad to have it in the game!

[violet otter]

Love the mode and how good it is for praticing new stuff. The only downside for me is how it increased arena queue times

[bronze swan]

Yeah I think the RNG is player spawns/third partying so we can never rid it in FFA. I think anything frustrating is alleviated because stakes are so low.

The respawn now button came about because a member of the dev team was raging when dying at times. They just wanted an outlet to "move on" which is exactly what the respawn button did. It's funny how something so simple can be a release valve for getting frustrated in a mode like this.

[still bridge]

ya exactly. being able to instantly get back in the fight reduces frustration so much (along with the fact that you havent really "lost" anything). Even when you get into lobbys with higher skilled players, its not a big deal because you can just instantly "go next" over and over again

[bronze swan]

ok warmup matches should start to cap at 15 now. Let me know if it feels better or worse.

[shadow vale]

Warm up mode is amazing ive wanted something like this forever as someone whose hundreds of hours onto cs ffa dms

[wraith kettle]

Major W here. I do currently enjoy the warmup mode more than anything else as there aren't currently the checks and balances we should expect from a ranked mode (nuance applied: not a high enough player base etc etc)

So this is perfect for me until 1.0

The ranked ladder has no integrity so having this game mode where I can actually regularly play with my friends is so much fun! Really great delivery on this so far.

[shadow vale]

Maybe a kill leaderboard for warmups would be cool

No bias here i didnt lose a screenshot of a 62 kill game

[wraith kettle]

Warmup should just remain warmup imo, it doesn't need extra features or to be made serious

[shadow vale]

Yea i agree im just coping because i didnt screenshot my personal kill record

[wraith kettle]

It's really well executed at the moment, minus the stuff that needs fixing but that's known and changes are coming which is great

[wraith kettle]

Rip I feel you

I had a 30/0 game in a lobby with the best players from EU that I didn't screenshot so I get it q:^)

[trim rose]

After game there is a leaderboard unless you meant you missed screenshotting that.

[shadow vale]

I missed screenshotting it so now i want stats style leaderboard in main menu

[pine sedge]

Warmup mode is super fun. Big W

[neat badger]

Deserved i guess

[flat socket]

Let lobby vote on next map

[neat badger]

Shrike the acrobatic glitcher

[modest holly]

she kinda hit that though

[neat badger]

hmmm

[acoustic plaza]

Looks fine to me

[bronze swan]

Alright. Now that warmup was capped at 15 players per match in warmup for the weekend, what are your thoughts?

[still bridge]

Feels a but less chaotic, I think it's a bit better with 15

[pine sedge]

Also think it's a bit better than before. Even 1 or 2 more would be fine probably but the current number is good.

[flat socket]

can you make deathboxes not drop on death.. sometimes when i join a lobby there are so many.. like so many

[jagged wing]

Remove bots? please? Atleast for asia server? pweettty pleassseeeee

[lusty lintel]

honestly with this in between insta death queues we had back in november/december

i would be really okay with the old system

however i think yall already achieved the perfect balance with normals having the resurrection thing and ranked being like before