#Hudson Celeste Felix Meta is boring

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viral pawn
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Saros, Shiv, Myth, Bishop, Zeph, Crysta are all good right now and very skill expressive

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Well, rip op

solemn sapphire
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B-but this isn't even meta? I was kinda curious what bro said, he deleted it tho lol

viral pawn
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He said skill expressive hunters all got nerfed and he was tired of "hold lmb" hunters being meta

solemn sapphire
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Well out of the hunters in the title the only "hold lmb" hunter is Hudson, the other hunters have so much more than that. And celeste is the only reqlly strong hunter out of the 3 in the title.

spark basalt
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what hudson celeste felix meta? i dont think ive ever seen that comp together xD

solemn sapphire
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Same tbh, I don't think I've seen anyone ever run it

viral pawn
minor axle
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Not a rage post. But I remembered after I posted here how frustrating and rage inducing the discussion on this discord is and how not worth it is usually is to participate so I deleted the post.

I don't necessarily mean those 3 all on the same team (although yeah I've seen that comp all together and you're either baiting or not paying attention if you haven't) but at least one of these brainless characters is on almost every team. And its boring.

solemn sapphire
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Neither of them are brainless... calling them brainless is just wrong. Hudson is literally the most punishable hunter in the game. Felix is stupid easy to kite. Celeste is decently strong but ahe isn't hard to deal with(I'm not sure necessarily what her weakness is but she isn't that bad).

Neither of them are brainless. Hudson and felix can be brainless at lower mmrs since they won't get punished/kited as hard. But st higher mmrs you have to be thinking about quite a bit, jus because they don't have a lot of mechanics to them doesn't make them brainless.

minor axle
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k

lean crypt
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Felix is STUPID easy to kite… he either is or is not fighting. If he’s fighting he’s on top of you, otherwise you are putting bullets in his butt as he runs for cover desperately

rocky ivy
lean crypt
spark basalt
# minor axle k

if u have problems agaisnt any of these 3 hunters ur just a new player and thats fine but saying those 3 champs r meta is crazy 😆

dawn depot
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hudson celeste felix meta?

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original message deleted makes sense

minor axle
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The snark and cringe in this thread is why I deleted it because I remembered when you talk to people on this server you're largely talking to people who have never been high elo at any game in their life and have the maturity of your average middle achooler.

dawn depot
mellow elk
valid field
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😂 like 1/2 of the people still in this server are high elo.

That aside Felix is like 3 % points lower than the others you mentioned on this graph, and its accuracy is already questionable.

lunar sentinel
heady scroll
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META - most effective tactic available, not what is the most played by average players. If you sort by top 100, those hunters dont get used by top players as much

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dawn depot
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the meta rn is bishop, shiv, oath hope this helps u @minor axle

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u can include myth instead of shiv if u want

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maybe even celeste

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all 3 are on same powerlevel

broken herald
zenith pumice
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Rage bait used to be believable 😔

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This seems like “people play characters I don’t like and I don’t want to learn how to play against them”

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Then people called you on your shit and you got butt hurt

patent sand
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Top 1 rate:

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Average placement:

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Average KD:

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So not really meta

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At least going by these stats which OP did (but looked at pickrate)

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Since the kill reset nerf felix is quite a bit weaker again, although still a solid hunter. If he gets on top of you you got a problem but otherwise its fine.
I don't see that many hudsons in high elo. He's strong early game when people dont have much mobility yet but otherwise he's not that hard to deal with (just flank him).
Celeste is pretty decent this meta. She seems balanced to me though. Just make sure not to fight her in abyss.

lean crypt
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He’s about to be nerfed again, Felix is.

lunar sentinel
fringe ruin
solemn sapphire
# minor axle yeah man these champs aren't getting picked at all I'm so fucking tilted haha tu...

I'll say this again, they aren't really just point and click champs. The closest to that out of the mentioned hunters is Hudson. But even then if the Hudson player is simply point and clicking they are a bad Hudson player.

Honestly don't know why I'm talking here but people acting like Hudson is super easy piss me off. Like he isn't a super hard champ yes, but if you're just doing the basics stuff his kit shows than he will be simple but you'll also be playing kinda badly tbh.

cunning sable
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like corner holding with hudson void is fucking toxic af but highyl effective play. Bad or good you wont get the respect that say a shiv player has to do to accomplish the same thing. The reset on hudson too is nutty work. Too much mobility atm with shift resets.

solemn sapphire
# cunning sable hudson is easy because there is no draw back on his autos. Would be nice if ever...

A hudson who just sits there holding lmb + rmb is a bad Hudson player. Which is basically all I'm saying. Like hudsons kit is simple. But once you're playing against legend ranked players basically every single game, Hudson is not easy to perform well on. Cus you'll get punished for literally the smallest mistake ever(and by punished I mean insta killed). Like Hudson kit is simple on the surface but you actually have to know how to use that kit really well to actually do anything at all at higher elos. Like ik, you see him just sitting there doing nothing bit holding rmb + lmb and think the person has to do literally nothing at all, and how if you pick him and do literally just that you'll be doing as well as the higher ranked Hudson players.

Basically kits like felix, Hudson, and celste seem simple on the surface but they got a lot more going on once you actually start getting into them. Hudson's is the most simple out of them all. But seeing a lower elo player never attack using huddy's dash hurts me. Just please understand that just cus a kit seems mega simple doesn't means it's super easy to perform well with.

Even with the dash resets huddy isn't considered massively op by majority of people. Makes him mega strong but doesn't make him super op.
Tho they do either gotta take out the bush bug or for bushes make it 5% instead of 25%. Prob just gonna get taken out which is fine.

Also something else, it would be nice if when huddy rams someone he got 50% reset instead of 25%, I don't think this be broken in any way and woukd help him an insane amount.

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Lengthy ass message.

If too lazy to read here is a tldr: Hudson's kit seems super simple but actually performing well with it at high elo is hard. Cus if how hard you get punished for the slightest mistake.(long tldr but that's basically what the mag is saying)