#:flag_au: OCE WAITING ROOM :flag_nz:

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elder chasm
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last thread hit the post limit i think, the interest is just too great

trail sapphire
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Guys, we get you want OCE servers. But if the spam and toxicy continue over it further action will be taken. Its getting out of hand at this point

pallid girder
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You can have fun without breaking the rules 🙂

spring stone
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apparently people where complaining in the moderators dms

tacit hawk
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sadge

spring stone
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i dont think antagonizing the mods anymore is going to result in productive results

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kinda cool i got the last msg in the thread tho

elder chasm
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they are antagonizing themselves by coming here looking to get upset

spring stone
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whats jeet?

elder chasm
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bro u just killed the oce server for good

spring stone
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this thread is also going to get nuked

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the old thread might be the most commented on thread in the server

crimson fjord
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WHAT NO SHOT LMFAO

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how are we breaking rules, literally the people having a cry about us are non oce because they decided to post in the thread which is entirely irrelevant to them

obsidian fjord
crimson fjord
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HOLY

obsidian fjord
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🙏

crimson fjord
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👌 👌 👌 👌 👌 👌 👌 🇦🇺

elder chasm
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this talented community is being gatekept from the game... shame

wild cloud
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Are We Getting Australia Server

red epoch
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appreciate the enthusiasm. please dont antagonize the mods. theyre volunteers trying to help keep things nice

wild cloud
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i took work off

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game so laggy

red epoch
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i just removed it

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staller - im gonna have to timeout you. please stop

wild cloud
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its 2025 and no aussie server sad panda

red epoch
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lets focus on whats important - better experience for aussies

spring stone
wild cloud
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i want to give you money

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please let me

crimson fjord
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we're passionate, but there is no need to delete threads, especially when the people complaining about how we are typing in the thread are people who frankly are not relevant to the conversation

red epoch
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where in oz are ya

wild cloud
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sydney

crimson fjord
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I am also in Sydney, i get 160 ping

red epoch
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oo i did a uni semester in coogee !

crimson fjord
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coogee is great!

red epoch
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lol

wild cloud
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did you game when you were here on euro servers

elder chasm
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most (80%+) will be from eastern states where the ping is at it's worst, i'm near Melbourne

crimson fjord
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🦈

red epoch
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i used to play wow on dalaran. id raid with a us crew and then stay up and do it again with my sydney/melbourne mates. it was...not good for my body

crimson fjord
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🇦🇺

wild cloud
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i really love your game

crimson fjord
red epoch
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staller - please stop talking about the mod.

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lets focus on sv and oce and the like

wild cloud
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not gonna lie the mod was lowki being a bit of a racist

red epoch
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you are noticed, you got the goal. please stop bringing it back to that. im gonna ignore further questions

rain elbow
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bubo you have the patience of a saint

iron lance
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fr

proven falcon
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I’m sure that bubo as well as others on the team have shown their appreciation for the passion people have for an OCE SERVER, however if it can’t stay civil, we will start handing out warnings, mutes and potential bans if it gets out of hand.

Us putting a slow mode or locking threads is not, nor will ever be about silencing those who want a OCE server, but because the discussions get way off topic and in some instance, deform into topics and discussions which do indeed break the community guidelines.

We strive for a community where everyone has a voice for feedback, however that comes with the expectations of respect, understanding and patience.

red epoch
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its really a player base size thing. our current population is much smaller than other games and our queues require a lot more people. so we'd either have shit queue times or loose matches

crimson fjord
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@red epoch Honestly, we know that you guys need certain populations in regions to make servers feasible.

What we need to discuss is, what numbers do we need to reach for oce servers to be viable and what number are we currently at.. this information would make us a lot more understanding about your position.

Also the other point that we would like to make is the fact that as oce servers take longer to come out, less oce players will be interested further making the incentive even lower to release oce servers

red epoch
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given we haven't even landed that balance with larger servers...its gonna be a minute

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that is fair insomnia - its just been 4 days!

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in my professional opinion i disagree. plenty of times where players have asked for X and not liked what comes with X

wild cloud
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i am a crypto millionaire and i will pay for the first year of server hosting

red epoch
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not at once, no. but overall yes

wild cloud
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how much is a year of hosting

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60k

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i whipe my ass with that

red epoch
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exactly

lethal osprey
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@red epoch apoligies if this isnt your department but wanted to ask

Is there a specific way the game is made on why playing with the ping is so inconsistent? theres times in fights where honestly it feels like im playing with say 20 ping and have no issue playing on hong kong servers, (likely due to not having packet loss at the time) and then well sometimes its the opposite where the game is fully unplayable. sorry if it sounds like i dont know what im talking about cause i dont haha,

also just wanted to ask if theres any plans of singapore servers in the future? basing this off rocket league but playing on singapore servers with 90 ping was 100% playable so it could be the second best outcome instead of pure oce servers?

red epoch
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i nearly cried

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guys. please. leave. my. mods. out. of. it

pulsar pike
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What about provisional queues tbh that or Singapore would be nice

red epoch
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more server locations are desired!

wild cloud
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your mods are choosing to be involved, were just in here having fun because we cant in game.

proven falcon
lethal osprey
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nw, thanks for answering

red epoch
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4 is not many days including a weekend

wild cloud
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what is reality

red epoch
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lol

wild cloud
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im here with you soldier

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07

red epoch
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how much better is SG vs HK for you in syndney and melbourne?

elder chasm
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in melb i get 105 to SG and 155 to HK

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shoudl be consistent across eastern states

spring stone
pulsar pike
wild cloud
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much better

lethal osprey
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i mean again basing off rocket league 90 in signapore and im getting like 160 in supervive with hk servers

wild cloud
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if you use exit lag also

red epoch
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yeah its non linear for sure. getting under 120 is nice

red epoch
spring stone
wild cloud
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re routing tool

spring stone
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it can lower ping by 40 for some people

red epoch
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we are on the same side of this war brother

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okay different question - how did yall hear about us? ill tell you a bit more about why im asking once you answer

wild cloud
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the anzacs are storming Gallipoli

spring stone
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you have made a incredible game and thats why people in here are so passionate about the server

spring stone
crimson fjord
pulsar pike
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YouTube

red epoch
lethal osprey
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think back on of your original trailers on twitter around when i joined the game

red epoch
proven falcon
# red epoch whats that

It’s essentially a vpn which tries to do what network acceleration does, but by trying to mitigate the number of network hops you do from client to server.

wild cloud
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i found out from my incel mate

elder chasm
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used to play a lot of battlerite and i saw a streamer called Teldoo who i used to watch playing

pulsar pike
red epoch
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oh for sure - he was our first in client promo

crimson fjord
red epoch
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im trying to figure out which creators have oce audiences vs just na/gb

lethal osprey
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i need to actually play with the packet loss statistic but imo i think solving that is whats actually going to change how the game feels, again actually need to clip how the game feels with vs without it but yeah

pulsar pike
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Singapore will drop us marginally I'd say by ~40-60

spring stone
elder chasm
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in the steam next fest demo i was actually pleasantly surprised to be able to feel and perceive a reasonable amount of corrections happening due to ping. all too often games are made with overly client authoritative netcode which makes the experience bad on both sides of overseas play

red epoch
# pulsar pike Singapore will drop us marginally I'd say by ~40-60

rn asia server isnt big enough to split...i need to go look at where all the current players are and how much their ping would go up + if the server type we run on is in SG + when engineering could do it - we'll see what else is on the to do list once we get back to work tomorrow.

spring stone
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yeah the nidhogg to supervive pipeline is strong

red epoch
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we're in it for the long haul. plenty of games decline after their first weekend - thats normal. we know we have a lot to do to make the game better still

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if we aren't keeping players engaged in a few weeks then prioritizing more servers instead of making the game better is the wrong call

wild cloud
spring stone
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im seeing that you are peaking on players atm

last citrus
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I hope the team has gotten the break they well beyond deserve

red epoch
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we're a f2p live service game. having a big weekend is just a start. we aren't selling boxes of games so we're not anywhere close to out of the woods

red epoch
spring stone
last citrus
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:(( yall gotta take care of yourselves ARGG

wild cloud
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not going to lie you ned to stay on the grind

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nothing good happens when you stop the momentum

red epoch
pulsar pike
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I can do some traveroutes to AWS SG and HK later and ping you here if you want, might give better insight

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Traceroutes*

red epoch
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honestly thats not even the right framing - theyre great people and they deserve some family time and rest too.

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theyre not gonna ragequit. theyre gonna be miserable and thats not the right way to keep the energy to do this

spring stone
red epoch
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appreciate you understanding

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@pulsar pike thats okay - i got some ping tools up that'll get us close enough

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theres at least a couple of countries with larger player bases that will be worse off if we move it... but tech might have win-win options

spring stone
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remarkable how much of a mental turn around having a dev in this chat has done

red epoch
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appreciate the passion for the game!

spring stone
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of course brother

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keep up the good work

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maybe get some sleep tho

red epoch
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okay i gotta sleep - gnite!

spring stone
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o7

wild cloud
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07

dusky crypt
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Please 170 ping is jank

swift narwhal
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🙏

heavy yew
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from perth here, just my 2c, would rather give you guys money than exitlag. me and my mates are holding off supporter packs until we see either syd or singapore servers

gilded raven
gentle pendant
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holy shit bros we are so fucking back

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finally some actual dialogue

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😤

spring stone
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thats all we really wanted

crimson scaffold
pastel bough
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Mods lowkey got cooked in this thread 💀💀💀 OCE really standing on business

pastel bough
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Hopefully OCE get some love when the time is right, seems like there’s a lot of passion over there

late quest
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Guys, you are free to have an OCE thread but chill with the racism. Typing slurs is some clown shit and an express ticket to getting banned

pale lava
proud siren
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oce

royal storm
devout agate
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oce servers 🙏

spare inlet
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OCE servers pwease :3

mortal vortex
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People talking about how this thread getting the most replies but its just the same 10 people hard trolling to the point mods are going full tilt

Top tier effort from us 🇦🇺 🦘
Just need a big content creator to pick up the game then we'll get the influx of OCE players we need for server lmao

crimson fjord
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🇦🇺

ebon junco
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Game is amazing. I'd sacrifice an organ for OCE servers.

tacit hawk
gilded raven
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Game is so fun, Im just viewing the 146 ping I get as training weights.

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We are all gonna be juiced

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and unstoppable when we have below 90 ping

swift narwhal
rancid night
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ADD OCE SERVERS

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🇦🇺

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Sydney pref

spring stone
tacit hawk
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ADD OCE SERVERS ALICE SPRINGS PREF

spring stone
tacit hawk
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obsidian fjord
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🌊

kindred gyro
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🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

obsidian fjord
rancid night
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hurry up about it too

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cbf waiting

obsidian fjord
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WAIT ITS PEAK

image.png
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ORANGE PING

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THE DAY IS SAVED

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🙏

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tryna get my friends to play but they dont wanna touch the game without oce servers 😭

tender bone
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YES WE NEED OCE

green radish
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🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🇦🇺 🇦🇺 plz I want my dodge to function

green radish
lapis peak
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same, dodged off the map by mistake again

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the exitlag, it does nothing

green radish
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let me dodge this 5 second telegraphed ability. oh wait. stunned.

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😭

lapis peak
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wish i lived in a real country

obsidian fjord
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LETS GOO 1V2 CLUTCH TOI WIN THE GAME

image.png
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medal wasnt open

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😭

tacit hawk
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😭😭😭😭😭

obsidian fjord
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oce is not mentioned in the road map. we are cooked 🙏

kindred gyro
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We are mentioned at the very end in the p.p.s

"P.P.S. Also: heard on the OCE server (or lack thereof) sadness. Totally understand the negativity; playing on 170 ping is brutal. Just to be honest: our biggest challenge with OCE servers is maintaining a healthy queue population, which affects matchmaking, queue times, etc. Much bigger studios with much bigger games have launched OCE servers and had to shut them down due to low population. Ultimately it’s a risk we can’t yet take as a new, independent studio that isn’t yet profitable. One day we’d like to at least have servers closer to OCE, but we gotta get this plane off the ground first. Thank you to those playing through the ping and supporting us - sorry we don’t have the answer you’re looking for!"

So yeah we're still cooked, not getting it anytime soon by the sounds of it.

obsidian fjord
kindred gyro
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Yeah we're more than used to the potential queue times, as long as there is an oce playerbase I dont see the issue

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I'd rather queue up for 5 mins to get 30 ping than a 1 minute queue for 170 ping rubberbanding dash into death

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its driving me nuts

pastel bough
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out of interest for oce whats the next best server? eu asia or na?

obsidian fjord
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asia for sure its located in hong kong and you will be around 130-160 ping depending on where u live in Australia. if they add Singapore servers we will be getting 90-120 in asia

rich magnet
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I try to play characters that can still perform at high latency, unfortunately skillshot characters are out of the question :/

royal plank
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I've got an idea on how to make a temporary solution for your problems in #1311015974601752668
If I'm correct this might be a low-cost solution for you, with the cost of increased queue times - or being free to change to asia server if you want game fast

Cheers sheep guys

pulsar pike
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Why do that when provisional queues work 100x better, more than likely cost less and isn't a random will I be in Asia or OCE

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Most providers for this, (AWS) included allow you to provision servers that have "spike" and idle thresholds

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A lot of the cost is in DTO anyways not actually the hardware

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Anyways the whole point now is this isn't really a cost issue tbh and more of a can we support queues when each game currently requires 40 players. "At the cost of increased queue times" is exactly what the Devs are looking to avoid

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Your solution just splits the population even further

lapis peak
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If we can't get OCE servers, what about looking into why the dodge key is so jank on high ping? It rubberbands everywhere even when there has been no external interruption in movement and makes playing any character that is dodge reliant almost impossible

patent yarrow
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Ye playing ranked above diamond on 140 ping is basically impossible, how can I read Joule when she’s rubber banding all over my screen

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And they’re too scared to pay for custom games but expect us to believe we’ll get a server

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Quit while you can OCE players, waste of fkn time

lapis peak
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Our team is on the verge of quitting out of lag frustrations every night 😦

patent yarrow
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It’s ass dude, was hoping this patch would instill confidence but as I said money’s so much of an issue they can’t allow a basic feature in almost every other game, customs, so the chances we get a whole ass server within even 6 months is laughable

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Such a good game, such shit decision making, it has 5k viewers on twitch consistently so it’s not gonna pop off any time soon

crimson scaffold
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I read above that they can't have OCE servers because we don't have a big enough playerbase
I think it was like, either 1000 OCE players total, or maybe it was about 500 at peak
Either way, that definitely isn't enough

patent yarrow
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Yeah and it’s not going to grow if people’s first interaction with the game is rubber banding to narnia every 5 minutes

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My mates and I played a good 14 hrs over the weekend, game feels great IF you have good connection, completely unfair and unplayable otherwise

green radish
# lapis peak If we can't get OCE servers, what about looking into why the dodge key is so jan...

This is my biggest gripe, any dodge and your character janks around back and forth. Really breaks the flow and it makes it almost impossible to avoid attacks when you're pinging back into an enemy ability (stuns are the worst). Even if you're pre-emptively dodging I feel like I still get hit. I was holding hope, and suffering through the jankyness because the game is pretty awesome, but that P.P.S is making me lose motivation to keep going. 😦

patent yarrow
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Yeah the PPS just reinstated the backwards logic, the only way we get a server is if 10k+ people put up with garbage gameplay for months at minimum which just isn’t realistic?!

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Probably more than 10k+ too, they want like 100k people to play on 150 ping consistently

red epoch
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where are you getting those numbers?

gentle pendant
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what is the number then?

patent yarrow
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I’m just being realistic, you won’t make a server for 5k people would you

red epoch
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theres a big difference between 5k and 100k...its just misleading even if thats not your intent

patent yarrow
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We’d need numbers in the tend of thousands at minimum to have a chance at them considering us

red epoch
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we're considering it now!

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but thats not the same as being able to pull it off

patent yarrow
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I’m putting numbers out there because we haven’t been given any lmao

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Just being told “ hang in tight”

red epoch
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i dont have specific numbers for you, we are on day 7, need to see how things go to make big decisions like adding servers

patent yarrow
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Yeah and i’m just saying the fact its this big a decision at all is a huge tell

lapis peak
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It's a bit of a chicken egg situation since if you don't add OCE servers, the OCE players are just going to give up. I imagine streamers would be pretty hesistant to playing a game with janky lag

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Why is the dodge key so jank with 160 ping? Is that on the radar at all? Just walking back and forth in training pressing the dodge key its obvious how bad it is, which cant even compare to how frustrating it is in an actual match

patent yarrow
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The devs only show up to tell you to be patient man, better off asking in general or something

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Bit it is awful to play with I agree

swift narwhal
lapis peak
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Ya

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Super frustrating on Joule when I press my dash and suddenly everything desyncs, I miss my dash even though when I clip it I went straight through the target

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Brall felt pretty unplayable with how badly dash would desync

swift narwhal
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Yeah when I double roll on myth my game has a seizure

lapis peak
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Ya that's evident from just going into training mode and spamming dodge, game having a seizure is the perfect way to put it

void glade
# lapis peak It's a bit of a chicken egg situation since if you don't add OCE servers, the OC...

Honestly after the announcements today i give up, i cant continue to play a game like this one on 160 ping. It’s an abysmal experience. The fact they include adding korean servers on the roadmap but flat refuse to even give us a trial period server is straight fucked. I mean hell at this point id be somewhat fine with oce servers running on a p2p system if that means i can have decent ping, but that doesnt even seem to be explored by the devs.

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“BuT tHe QuEuE tIMeS”. newsflash devs. The aus region always has longer queues we just fucking deal with it. Sure there will be a vocal minority saying “game dead long queue wah wah” but jfc refusing to even ATTEMPT to grow the oce community is wild to me

lapis peak
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The announcement was South American servers not KR right? I didn't see the KR announce

void glade
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There is a kr flag in the roadmap

lapis peak
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Oh, missed that

void glade
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Looking at it again that was the october part of the roadmap so likely already implemented

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But my point stands

lapis peak
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Game has more players than New World and getting 40p OPR queues in a that game where 95% of the players don't even queue for PvP modes is fine

void glade
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Its beating deadlock in player numbers

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Deadlock has oce servers

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Like wtf

lapis peak
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Same with Dark and Darker, they have OCE and even when that was peaking it had half the current players of this game 😦

void glade
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Apex STILL has oce servers and those things are dead for 80% of the day

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I mean fuck id hazard a guess i can still find oce games in fucking titanfall 2

patent yarrow
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Greedy owners or something idk but the reasons we’re getting just aren’t it at all

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Genuinely on what fucking planet does a game’s community grow on shit connection

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When EVER has that occurred

void glade
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Should have just chosen not to live in this region i guess right

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That was sarcasm in case it wasnt obvious

patent yarrow
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And the worst part is everyone here who is trying to support them early is just getting stiffed, we can’t participate in events, definitely ain’t farming clips on the ping so what do we have?

lapis peak
void glade
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I didnt buy a pack specifically because i knew this announcement was coming

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And now i guess ill just flat uninstall it

lapis peak
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Also holding off on pack until servers here. Love the game and I'll try keep playing but the mounting frustration makes me just wanna RQ half the time

patent yarrow
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Yeah same I was ready to drop money on it but not if i’m waiting 5 months for a server

last sky
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WE DEMAND OCE SERVERS!

pulsar pike
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@red epoch I've suggested it a few times but is it possible to at least do provisional queueing. E.g. similar to riot where they close queues at off peak times and reopen them. At least that way at the end of the work day when most people will play we can jump on, play and then wait until the next afternoon or something to get better ping .

void glade
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They could also just run it on a p2p framework

pulsar pike
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ATM though OCE is a catch 22

void glade
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They have basically buried oce as an option for now

patent yarrow
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I remember Naraka had a feature where if you queue and there’s enough OCE players you all get an OCE lovby otherwise you’re put on SEA, even that was fine

red epoch
void glade
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Unless they do a SIGNIFICANT marketing push for adding oce servers in the future

pulsar pike
patent yarrow
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And that game died in a week lmao

void glade
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As it is right now the lack of actual concrete reasoning just makes the situation worse on our side

last sky
patent yarrow
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Seems genuinely like the plan right now

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And most won’t have even attempted it

lapis peak
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I don't really care about the reasoning, I would just love more than a "maybe in the future", an idea of timeline in which we can expect the possibility of any kind of OCE servers (provisional or not), or if it's not a serious consideration by the wider dev team then tell us so we can just give up

patent yarrow
lapis peak
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Yikes 😦

patent yarrow
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And if it is then I have no words other than geeeet fucked 😂

swift narwhal
lapis peak
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Yea def not gonna last until May, with how bad the frustration is getting I can't see myself lasting more than a week or two before RQing

patent yarrow
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Can we fkn pay for themourselves

pulsar pike
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They aren't

patent yarrow
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Let OCE players donate

pulsar pike
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Like its subjective really

patent yarrow
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Then let it run for a month and see how they feel

last sky
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24/7 responsive servers definitely ain't super cheap

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but its 2024, oce shouldn't be left in dust

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its rare for gaming studio to look at us twice

pulsar pike
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But I imagine a rough estimate for OCE would be between ~700 USD to like ~1200 a month

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But someone might be able to give a solid answer

patent yarrow
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So let us, the players, cover that for a testing ground and we go from there

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I’d happily throw a couple hundred in

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Genuinely

pulsar pike
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I think it comes down to: 30min queue times will kill the region faster than 150ms ping

lapis peak
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can we start a gofundme for OCE servers pls?

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I'll throw in a hundy

lethal osprey
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idk how many of you guys enjoy the gamemode but i wonder if we could get a playtest for just areana

patent yarrow
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Haven’t touched it, I imagine it’s even more frustrating than normal considering it’s straight fighting

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No macro

lethal osprey
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yeah but ay if its the only way we can just see how playing on low ping plays ill take it haha

patent yarrow
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And the idea of being competitive when every other region’s gonna have months of experience ahead of us is out the window

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All round a shit time being from AUS and liking games

lapis peak
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If you compare other games total pop vs OCE server counts, the OCE servers on those are around 10% of the total playerbase. Though might be a bit off cause I think those games have SEA -> OCE. Would put the current expectation for OCE peak for this game around 4k which is way more than just 2-3 matches going at a time

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New World which has specific OCE with server counts on the New World Status website

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NW ended up hiding their player counts so now they just extrapolate based on historical region data which were real #s

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They have a 40 player pvp mode as well and prob like only 5-10% of the playerbase even queues for it

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Still pops regularly just fine

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I just alt tab in queue and they tend to pop in a few mins

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Supervive currently has double the peak players, not even counting their own launcher

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NW did get PS5/XBOX release somewhat recently but the playerbase for those are completely dead

patent yarrow
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This just reminds me of early LOL, my friends and I played on NA for 2 weeks and said fk that, they drop OCE servers and we’ve played for 12 years, i’m sure there’s many many other groups like us and it’s kinda odd they don’t see that

swift narwhal
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Yea me and my friend group same situation

patent yarrow
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There’s just no incentive, like I said ranked past even platinum was hard, diamond feels IMPOSSIBLE and I imagine it only gets worse the higher you go, so we just play normal mode on 150 ping for FUN? There’s nothing to do on the game for OCE so why would anyone stay at it for a prolonged period of time

pale lava
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Annual leave degen essential

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No Server No Leave

green radish
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Regarding population, best example I can think of rn is Deadlock, which has ranked and is in early release. Smaller population than Supervive too.

patent yarrow
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And crazily enough, the most i’ve waited for a game on there is about 2 mins at most

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Fkn throw bots in worst case

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To fill the gaps

dull violet
limber crescent
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pleeeeaaase need OCE servers been begging for ages

patent yarrow
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Read the road map, best they’ll do is singapore xd

limber crescent
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what ping is that for us?

patent yarrow
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About 90-120

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Instead of 140-160

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Better but still no hope of being competitive

limber crescent
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:((

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do u think vpn would help lots?

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for oce to singapore

proud siren
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oce

patent yarrow
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Doubt it, might be worth a shot though 🤷🏼‍♂️

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I’ve lowkey just given up after their “update” today played 20hrs in 4 days and now they spat in our faces again

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No one’s gonna spend money or grind if us getting a server is “MAYBE in future”

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So we’re just not gonna get one

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That’s how it looks and you can spin it however you want but that’s the most realistic result

minor skiff
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It's so conflicting, I want to support the game by playing and spending money on it, but I can't support it when I feel like it isn't/won't support me/us

It's additionally difficult when most would rather wait for better servers before playing, but we won't get better servers unless the player count is high enough. I'm not sure how we can show high player count when it's so difficult to play in the current server state

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I think a trial weekend or two for OCE would be the most optimal thing to do, or as @pulsar pike mentioned above, maybe just peak times for a week or two as a trial

patent yarrow
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Definitely agree, all of my gamer friends love the game but don’t want to play at such a disadvantage so they stopped after 3 games

Trialing is our best bet/hope but the team need to understand our perspective before we get there

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Their responses show they don’t understand it what so ever “just play on the bad ping til we give you a server” isn’t good enough at all

exotic orbit
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They're alienating any potential new OCE players by stating that local servers are a low priority, which is a downward spiral for their queue health, population concern and the hope for current OCE players to get better ping, since new players = more money + more minimum population requirement for servers, and more money + more players = quicker installation of OCE servers. They are doing everything to NOT get OCE servers imo.

patent yarrow
green radish
exotic orbit
green radish
exotic orbit
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Wow. Who knew there were two companies with the same name and different values.

nocturne prairie
exotic orbit
# nocturne prairie

They brag about having 1m lifetime players, and conservatively assuming 5% of them spent $10, would mean at least $500k gross income the first week of the games release, and they are a studio that "isn't yet profitable".

Uh-huh.

tacit hawk
exotic orbit
# tacit hawk thats p optimistic

People in the US and Asia have excellent ping, so they would buy stuff in the store. I'm sure if we had OCE servers, AUS/NZ players would be more inclined to also buy stuff in the store.

tacit hawk
thorny abyss
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I brought the second support pack and had a friend buy the 3 tier so they are getting money from oce

tacit hawk
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its not the server/costs that's the problem

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its that oce has no players

thorny abyss
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True

exotic orbit
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There are probably people out there that want to play the game but are waiting for OCE servers to be online first.

tacit hawk
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case study: league

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u Q up in ranked and its the same 10 players every game and their 100th account xdd

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now scale it down by 100x, how do u get healthy skill brackets? xdd

nocturne prairie
tacit hawk
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like look at minecraft servers, tell me one big oce servers, crazy theres 2

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@nocturne prairie u can Q snipe in gold/plat

nocturne prairie
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u hardly see same names in gold

tacit hawk
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but u can Q snipe

nocturne prairie
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thats not what u said tho

elder chasm
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No. That Game Is Very Toxic

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Doesn't Count

tacit hawk
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thats d4

elder chasm
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I Would Never Open A Game Besides League Of Legends

tacit hawk
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iirc it was 100k ranked players in oce?

nocturne prairie
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70k

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roughly

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iirc

tacit hawk
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its 10x smaller

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than NA

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i dont think there'd be a diff distribution for supervive

nocturne prairie
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im happy with singapore servers haha

elder chasm
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70k not enough... need 700k to play the game

tacit hawk
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combined sea is probably fine

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its 2-3 min queues rn in asia

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and its not v balanced either

elder chasm
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This Is Bullshit I have To Wait 2-3 Min To Play

nocturne prairie
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thats with norms and ranked in same q

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also

tacit hawk
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NA

elder chasm
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Put the server in Sydney

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for All Regions

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Server Location Should Rotate Every Week

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so crazy how gaming is dead now

tacit hawk
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singapore is probs the best middleground

elder chasm
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singapore is the obvious choice if u dont have oce

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really bizarre how they chose hong kong

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pathetic really

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probably still wouldnt play on sg but

tacit hawk
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o yh, another game was apex legends, oce servers died xdd p sure every1 queues for tokyo dont they?

elder chasm
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if apex was a real game with real netcode they would have stayed on oce

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a lot would i'm sure

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40ms reduction is pretty huge

kindred gyro
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Yeah we need OCE Servers sooner than later, every friend I've introduced Supervive to falls in love with it but the more they get invested in it the more they get frustrated with the lag and I hear them complaining about it (myself included)

exotic orbit
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I'm extremely keen to play this game, but refuse to start knowing i'll be at a 150 ping disadvantage in a pvp game.

patent yarrow
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And not everyone wants to grind ranked, most people just wanna play supervive casually, on good ping, with friends

tacit hawk
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its not about ranked its about skill bracket

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then ull have noobs getting stomped and whining xdd

patent yarrow
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But ranked and normals are the same on every server in every region for supervive

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Like the lovbies are the same and there’s no MMR

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That isn’t an OCE issue thats supervive rn

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I played with legends within my first 10 games of supervive

proud siren
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oce

tender bone
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OCE SERVER PLZ!

wooden ridge
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christmas would be every day if this game got oce servers

kindred gyro
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I'll do anything for oce servers pls devs I beg

tepid anvil
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please oce servers love the aussies!!

crimson scaffold
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Have ya's thought about pooling some money and sponsoring the server?
If they don't have to worry about costs, then they can get one set up without worrying about the risks/ no return

patent yarrow
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I asked about that and got no response

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Several times in several channels

lapis peak
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I'd pitch in for an official gofundme or whatever

kindred gyro
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if the devs set a goal or communicate, sure, otherwise sort of feels like throwing money into the wind, no?

patent yarrow
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Yeah that’s why we’d receive confirmation first

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But if they say “crowdfund X amount” i’m sure people will be willing

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A few people on here yesterday said they would, myself included

kindred gyro
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I would, my friends likely would too, a goal is better than nothing

patent yarrow
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I’ll put another message in questions

patent yarrow
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Apparently OCE’s happy with the ping now 🤷🏼‍♂️

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pastel bough
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i doubt they'd take your money even if you guys were willing

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the ping is crazy too lool

ionic patio
proud siren
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oce

patent yarrow
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Ye they just aren’t listening or even entertaining the idea, servers aren’t expensive either btw no need for an oil prince 😂

lucid iris
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im fine with the ping tbh, this aint too bad

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lucid iris
# patent yarrow Ye they just aren’t listening or even entertaining the idea, servers aren’t expe...

What do you mean by not listening? They have made a few posts on the very subject and why. I think the only not listening going on is on your side.

Hi, we appreciate the feedback and we’re sorry we don’t have servers in Oceania at this time! As a small independent company (that is not yet profitable) we have to make very specific bets with our time, money, and efforts, and we have to pick our battles carefully and tackle them step-by-step.

New regional servers have a minimum population requirement that we aren’t sure we can hit in every region. OCE is an especially tough problem because, well, it’s so far away from everywhere else - queue health is the biggest concern for us here and we’ve seen much bigger games from much bigger studios struggle to keep populations healthy.

If we can hit sustainability and profitability through our initial launch, we’re absolutely open to exploring more regional options - although the population concern is still very real - but just to explain how we make decisions, even if it’s not the one you want.

Understand this isn’t the answer you want and it’s frustrating to play on high ping - but we want to be honest!

P.P.S. Also: heard on the OCE server (or lack thereof) sadness. Totally understand the negativity; playing on 170 ping is brutal. Just to be honest: our biggest challenge with OCE servers is maintaining a healthy queue population, which affects matchmaking, queue times, etc. Much bigger studios with much bigger games have launched OCE servers and had to shut them down due to low population. Ultimately it’s a risk we can’t yet take as a new, independent studio that isn’t yet profitable. One day we’d like to at least have servers closer to OCE, but we gotta get this plane off the ground first. Thank you to those playing through the ping and supporting us - sorry we don’t have the answer you’re looking for!

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I mean, they can keep repeating the same line over and over again for those that are not listening I guess.

patent yarrow
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I’m referring specifically to letting us fund it, they are completely ignoring the idea

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Don’t chime in right at the end without reading a whole conversation

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We’re aware of their bullshit excuses so we’re trying to find an alternative 🙂

patent yarrow
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Guy that goes by “Stinglock” clown reacting my shit 😂😂😂

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He’s probs just ass and the ping doesn’t matter to him would be my best guess

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10 ping or 10,000 he’s doing 1k dmg a game

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So everything’s okay! 😁

lucid iris
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Bullshit excuses? Most games don't put out AU servers due to the 1) the cost of server hosting here and 2) the low playerbase in comparison to other regions.

And if you are trying to crowdfund hosting costs you don't need to 'wait for them to listen' to get something together, go to some pledge site and get people to say how much they'd promise to donate, that will show them you actually have something worth looking at.

PS: You going to need to get a fair bit to keep the servers up longer than 3 months but good luck.

gentle pendant
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what was the last non-mmo game you played that didnt have oce servers

lucid iris
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pubg, they literally removed the oce servers due to cost and playerbase/queue times being so terrible

gentle pendant
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sorry i meant launched without them

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i have no issue with companies removing oce servers once they're dead

crimson fjord
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Yea, I mean Singapore servers are a start, I think we just need to remain loud so that they dont think once Singapore servers are out, there won't be a need for oce servers. Because from their message it sounds like we're only going to get Singapore servers, nothing more which would be very sad

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I'm actually surprised you get under 100 ping @lucid iris are you in Australia? Or do u live in a different country?

lucid iris
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yeah i mostly play mmo games and every one seems to have launched recently with sea servers instead of AU. If they add SG servers that should at least see better go down to 50-100 for aus which is at least an improvement and has a large player base

lucid iris
crimson fjord
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I'm in NSW and I get 160 ping, granted my ISP routing isn't the best, my friend also in NSW gets 120 to 130

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I haven't seen anyone get under 100 ping here

gentle pendant
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routing thru sea is usually dogshit so a vpn helps alot

lucid iris
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it shows ~88 in the menu, but inagme with the ping stat showing it hovers around 100-110 which is weird

crimson fjord
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But yea ping effect on playability isn't linear, so I think it's gonna have a larger and larger impact the higher above 100 ms you get

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Either way, competitively speaking I think everyone would agree once you get to a certain point in skill and opponents the ping for sure will make things frustrating

knotty grail
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i get all the reasons for and against OCE servers - its hard. But if you want this to be one of the "top dog" competitive games, its gotta have OCE servers sooner rather than later. Have them first and take them away if its not working out

crimson fjord
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You'd notice it greatly at 90 ms compared to like 30 Ms

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Agreed

knotty grail
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most of the top competitve games opened with OCE servers and have maintained. Dota, League, CSGO, etc. Even realm royale opened with them, but due to some insane balance choices the game died

lucid iris
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oh yeah, i played league when it first came out on NA with 250ms, then on SEA server when it launched at 80ms, then on OCE when we finally got our own servers at 40ms.

Alistair combo went from impossible, to easy, to able to do blindfolded

knotty grail
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but it depends on your angle, whatever the decision is fine. I just think this game has serious potential to be a top esports contender, so i want to see OCE servers now as a risk

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wait league opened without OCE? my bad

crimson fjord
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Yea we didn't get league server till like season 3 or 4

lucid iris
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yeah, league got GArena/SG servers before we had our own region

knotty grail
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i remember Garena for Dota 1

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well if that method works then perhaps not opening with OCE servers is fine

crimson fjord
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I am with the rest of my oce brothers, frankly I don't think it's as hard as the devs are making it out to be, their insisting on queue health as the reason, not costs, so why not put out a poll asking the oce community

gentle pendant
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its a different landscape for gaming these days compared to them

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global playerbase is alot larger

crimson fjord
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People have posted various solutions

knotty grail
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i trust the devs, if its hard/expensive then its fine

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i just think its worth the risk for them

crimson fjord
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It's 100% worth the risk, we know that

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But yea they say they are non profitable yet, all the micro transactions will make that change quite quickly

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I think queue health can be polled to the community

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Majority of us are ok with and used to longer queues but for better ping

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People have posted various solutions here already which they are aware of

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KR got its own server, granted its population is close to double Australia's population but I think if there were oce servers people from surrounding countries would play as well

patent yarrow
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And as stated multiple times we don't want more than 3 months (read before entering a conversaiton please) we just want even a week or a fkn 2 day wekeend lol and then go from there

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also where do you guys VPN to? I tried Hong Kong, China all osrts of shit and it only makes my ping higher (playing form melbourne)

lapis peak
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Exitlag does nothing for my ping to HK servers from NZ

lucid iris
lapis peak
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What does "Australia" mean? Perth vs Sydney is very different

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No, I'm in NZ

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98

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Would kill for 98 rn

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My squad already quit out of ping frustration 😭

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I think it would be limited by places AWS has servers in? I think I heard they host with AWS

rancid night
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It really wouldnt be that expensive

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AWS is Pay as you go

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start by opening a small amount of oce

mortal vortex
pulsar pike
# lucid iris Bullshit excuses? Most games don't put out AU servers due to the 1) the cost of ...

idk where everyone gets this idea from tbh. I mean the more I think about it the less I understand the money is a problem argument. Because less player base means less resources both in DTO and hardware.
As stated above they use AWS and half the cost on AWS is DTO, so unless the headless version of the game the serves run is very poorly optimised I don't see reasoning for them to need massive resource intensive servers in OCE.

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Sure the cost becomes a problem when you are just paying for servers that never get used. But they wouldn't know, and that's the OCE catch 22

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It's also just an inherit flaw in 40 person lobbies too

kindred gyro
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Yeah think I'm there with you, playing with this ping is just a rage-inducing experience and there's little to none communication from the devs so I don't see the point in keeping my hopes up and playing anymore

elder chasm
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what is q elf

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shitting hell i don't get it

patent yarrow
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Basically until we get a bigger population they won't make the servers but a lot of people don't want to play because we don't have servers so it doesn't look good and the only "confirmation" we've had is that they are looking to "move servers closer" which implies we may not necessarily get them at all

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Been trying to communicate all day and suggest crowdfunding on our end but with no response in 24hrs it looks like they just don't really care

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Back to league lmao

elder chasm
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but muh queue health

kindred gyro
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I just dont buy the queue health argument, only times I've had issues with oce queues in games is when it's past 2am or at the top 1% elo at off peak times - which is to be expected if you ask me and totally fine

elder chasm
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yeah it's fake bullshit

mortal vortex
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I mean, not like the first time OCE gets the shit end of the stick

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Happens consistently

royal plank
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'devs are not communicating' you've already got the official answer from devs fml

elder chasm
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buy more skins plz

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i want to know the minimum players required to meet the arbitrary queue health standards

patent yarrow
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I put numbers out the other day and some dev responded saying “where are you getting these numbers” and didn’t elaborate any further lmao

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I said “well you’re not gonna make a server for 5k people are you?” And he avoided a direct answer entirely

kindred gyro
pallid estuary
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Thats a lot of hostility for no reason

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Honestly it would probably do you good to take a breather and do something else for a while.

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Youre right i don’t im just bored at work.

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You just seem upset and it probably isn’t good for your mental. I hope you guys get servers and i am sure it will happen if more people start playing in oce.

kindred gyro
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And this is the catch 22 we have been discussing, trying to find solutions for, and communicate with devs about but it keeps getting taken off topic Lol

pallid estuary
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Well work just got busy good luck and take care of yourself

kindred gyro
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what an interesting fella, anyways pls give us oce servers

elder chasm
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you are like an insights principal damn

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me when queue health

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thanks for your service

lapis peak
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my squads completely fed up with the lag already and moved on, wake me up when there's OCE 😦

elder chasm
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o7

pale lava
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Have we been abandoned

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Us

proud siren
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oce

nocturne prairie
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skill issue

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league is in a great spot why u so mad XD

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could say the same to you :P

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bro is racist kassadin L9 pfp

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makes sense :3

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thats crazy bc i coached in opl

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:')

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also crazy people who are chal every season

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say the game is good

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ur just mad for no reason hahaha

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ur reaction to someone saying skill issue is to say "keep yourself safe"

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might want to look inwards :P

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im gm peaker

cloud gull
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you literally created a second account just to be mad at the devs on this server

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its just... sad

nocturne prairie
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XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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HAHAHAHAHAHA

nocturne prairie
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game over osu goes hard :^)

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if u know it

cloud gull
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or am i tripping

nocturne prairie
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sorry

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diff name is game over

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i think

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mb

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ur the one making new discord account

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to yap XD

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banned for toxic :D

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nope

cloud gull
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lets hear it

nocturne prairie
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maybe he is under age of TOS

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that would make sense

cloud gull
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hmm sounds reasonable

nocturne prairie
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he is thinking of an excuse now give him a sec

minor skiff
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Could be worth to wait for the weekend since weekdays tend to be quieter for a lot of games, though the consistent drop is concerning

dire zodiac
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I know my friend group haven't touched the game for 4-5 days due to ping frustration.

spark spade
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yeah the ping is defs off putting

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going to be weird to adapt when/if we get oce servers

crimson fjord
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Yea the rubberbanding sucks big time

patent yarrow
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Yeah I can honestly get past the aim delay but trying to play a champ with dash resets is basically impossible

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So you’re restricted to half the roster if you want to perform well

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Like Joule and Ghost are my fave characters and I can’t really practise them as it’s more annoying than rewarding

crimson fjord
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Yep, I am maining Jin, and sometimes my plays just suck coz I try to dash lmb on to a shrike or something only to get rubberbanded backwards and then I'm stuck without dash and die lolol

patent yarrow
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And playing against those characters too, like Brall is on the other side of my screen then 0.5 secs later he’s on my head and i’m 100hp

crimson fjord
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The worst part is its not 100% either, like more 30 to 40% of the time

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Which just makes it feel worse

patent yarrow
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Yeah, inconsistent as hell

crimson fjord
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Yer

patent yarrow
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Have moments where it inputs perfectly and it feels great (ghost bunny hop for example) but it happens yeah 1/5 times

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At best

spark spade
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idk why games arent released with oce servers in beta

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and then if oce flops they should just cancel for game release

crimson fjord
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Yea, we're a 3rd world country man

proud siren
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oce

exotic orbit
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Theorycraft Games on paper.

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Theorycraft Games in reality.

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patent yarrow
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They listen to the community guys! 48 hrs witho no response on crowd funding

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They really listen! Promise!

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I'd like to know which bigger studios and bigger games they're referring to and i'd bet those servers were removed when the game was dead globally and not just in OCE

exotic orbit
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They are probably talking about Firewalk Studios that made Concord PepeLaugh

kindred gyro
lapis peak
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Stunlock still run oceanic servers for V Rising as well

exotic orbit
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I don't think OCE will ever get servers since it's a volatile downward spiral for us. Devs are looking at numbers instead of pleas.

I imagine this ping issue is like the devs are expecting the OCE players to punch themselves every time they play the game, when the rest of the world doesn't have to.

And on top of that they expect current OCE players to keep punching themselves while they wait for new players to start punching themselves until they see enough people punching themselves to justify putting us in a punch free zone like the rest of the world.

But they don't understand that OCE players have a limit to how much they can punch themselves until throwing in the towel, hence the volatile downward spiral and OCE not getting servers on a numbers based decision.

kindred gyro
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Yeah dont think many oce players will keep sticking around punching themselves for another week if we dont have any sort of communication from the devs

ocean anchor
# exotic orbit I don't think OCE will ever get servers since it's a volatile downward spiral fo...

I swear every discord I join of a new game (that ends up dead) goes through this same cycle. They release their game and do hella marketing and get hype behind it, then decide the best course of action is to NOT capitalize off the hype and instead wait for a "high player count". The way devs treat OCE servers is almost an indication of how long the game will survive.

This player count they desire will never come, because anyone who tries out the game will quit due to having a significant disadvantage. Those who are super interested in the game will stay, but they will eventually leave when they realize new players aren't coming or get sick of the lag too. This is the moment when the most eyes are on the game, and it's doubtful they will ever have another moment. If they make the commitment and give oce players a place to go to, there will be oce players going to that place.

Instead, we got the equivalent of playing a counter-strike game where everyone gets a full PC setup, but they hand you a controller... Then they say if you find 1000 other people willing to also use a controller, then you MIGHT be allowed to use a mouse and keyboard.

obsidian fjord
honest mango
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Anyone keep to play ranked duos?

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Or anything tbh

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just LFG

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Game is still fun, I still get wins in unranked

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I bought a couple skins, can we have OCE servers now?

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crybaby attitude

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Have they openly said anything about OCE servers anyway?

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source pls

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keywords "yet"

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if u just give up on the game u'll never get them

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still I'm gonna reccomend it

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there's hunters u can play that are easier on high ping

harsh rapids
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maybe move off an island

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why beg for servers if u think its gonna die in 6 months lol

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move off an island

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so true

tacit hawk
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🇺🇸 🔫 🏫

obsidian fjord
# honest mango keywords "yet"

"one day we'd like to at least have servers closer to OCE" implying that the chances of them giving asia another server in somewhere like Singapore are a lot higher and would be enough for them to write oce off as having a server we can play in.

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despite us all being on 100+ ping

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i still play the game even though i am high ping because it is a fun game but its disappointing to see how the devs are going about oce servers. 'lets wait for the oce community to get fed up and stop playing so that one day if we are profitable and decide to give them servers they will be entirely underpopulated and not worth keeping online"

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there isn't enough marketing or content in supervive to follow a straight or upward user engagement trend like a few other titles. even massively popular games follow downward trends a solid 90% of the time. it seems like the developers are aiming to push out frequent content to hopefully keep bringing in new players while actively stopping new players from anywhere that isnt USA, Asia, Europe. seems a little bit counter intuitive

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the goal is to bring new players in but while doing so you are forcing other players out. doesn't seem very well though out

obsidian fjord
harsh rapids
dire zodiac
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It's such a shame. All my friends have gone back to League or Deadlock. I don't play League anymore since Vanguard release and I suck at Deadlock. So I've now lost another game I play with them.

kindred gyro
patent yarrow
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Seeing them complain about champs and rank systems and we just want to play the game properly

pale lava
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Mate honestly

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The just banned a load of people and then abandoned the thread

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I haven’t seen a dev post in here in ages

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The thread is still the most active one in the disc

gusty blade
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any updates

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on the oce servers 🥲

obsidian fjord
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not since last patch

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player counts are only going down though so its even more unlikely 👍🏿

dire zodiac
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Quite amusing reading through other discussions going on about how they want skins, or better matchmaking, new modes, nerfs, buffs, more keybinds, etc. And we are all just here with one unionised request. OCE servers.

elder chasm
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We need MC Hammer pants

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q elf not strong enough for mc hammer pants

gusty blade
spark spade
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no

nocturne prairie
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:')

keen badger
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yo

kindred gyro
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WTB Update from devs

elder chasm
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oce arena mode when

slow stone
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Love the game, but man are any of the characters I enjoy near impossible to play on current ping 😢 Would be easy to justify longer queue times with a playable experience.

compact path
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Any sort of infrastructure to support an OCE playerbase to test reception would be a step in the right direction, along with other parts of the world dealing with poor ping.

Maybe do a weeklong Server test in these regions and gauge playerbase off that. I Love this game, I saw it replacing league for me as something competitive to really grind and enjoy, Not going to happen on this ping, and I know how many people share the sentiment.

crimson fjord
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🇦🇺

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Make americans play on eu servers and eu play on american servers

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watch them cry about how awful it is OMEGALUL

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100p

pastel bough
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I’d hate to be from OCE seems like with games you guys always have to fight for servers. My condolences goes out to you guys

royal plank
harsh rapids
crimson fjord
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watch him cry to the mods because of your disrespectful comments 🤣

dire zodiac
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Whilst I am in support of getting OCE servers, I do not agree with some of the attitude and comments made to others. Toxicity will not increase our chance.

crimson fjord
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we're only toxic to the those who just tell us to sit quietly and wait

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🇦🇺

dire zodiac
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And that is going to help? That won't make the devs less likely to respond to us?

green radish
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any news 🇦🇺

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OCE OCE OCE

obsidian fjord
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its okay guys path of exile 2 releases on Saturday

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they will have Sydney servers

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and marvel rivals too

nocturne prairie
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that game is so complex haha

rancid night
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I say we raid every other discussion

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with aus flags and "OCE SERVERS"

tender bone
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YES OCE SERVERS

slow stone
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I mean, if this thread gets ignored then I defs get the frustration, but they've got a lot more to focus on than just us. The callout in the patch notes was appreciated, but certainly would like to see another update on plans in the next patch notes. Hopefully the popularity of this thread shows them there is demand

vivid prawn
exotic orbit
reef harness
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OCE OCE OCE OCE

vivid prawn
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no it didn't

rancid night
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the game has been in playtest for 2 years and still no OCE

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its over lads

rain elbow
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no it didn't, they just said in the meantime there's no OCE servers

"One day we’d like to at least have servers closer to OCE, but we gotta get this plane off the ground first."

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"at least closer", you're forgetting the first few words

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theyd like to do at least closer, not that there won't be an OCE server, but that at the minimum they want one that's easier to connect to

dull violet
rain elbow
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It's that they want/intend to long as the game survives that long, they made it pretty clear with "we gotta get this plane off the ground first"

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and while yes, some hateful comments likely won't stop an eventual OCE server, it also isn't helping matters and only contributes to discussions getting locked and people getting punished

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it isn't a good look either way

elder chasm
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it's not a good look to exclude oce for no good reason

dire zodiac
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Not my point. Devs are less likely to interact with us if they see toxicity in our existing interactions.

elder chasm
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damn i really wanted to interact with them. oh well

rain elbow
elder chasm
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that's not the reason but thanks for trying brother

rain elbow
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I was mistaken, that was the SA server's primary reason

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queue times were the OCE issue

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which also makes sense

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That's part of queue times/matchmaking health

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matchmaking health is the big thing

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it's a gamble, ye

elder chasm
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it's not a gamble it's a test of their ability

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and they failed

rain elbow
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?

elder chasm
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they didnt add mc hammer pants to the game store

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it's over

rain elbow
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it's a gamble to throw servers up without knowing what a population would look like, good product or not

elder chasm
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they wouldnt want to risk a region being able to play

exotic orbit
rain elbow
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because there has to be for the game to exist in the first place, they just chose the safest regions with the largest populations

elder chasm
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australia is unsafe too many big snake there

rain elbow
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it's ultimately a safer bet than OCE

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not to say OCE shouldn't get servers, I hope you guys do

elder chasm
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its so unsafe that only 95% of games can manage it

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the risk is that they dont adjust mm algorithm properly

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they may need to hire a chief mm coordinator of oce server

dull violet
rain elbow
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they can make rough guesses based on whatever research they have/general populations

NA and EU are significantly larger regions, so there's almost certainly going to be more players there, it's ultimately safer to launch there

elder chasm
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wtf why do the discord users type messages into discord

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they didnt do the research to see that i can play any game i want except supervive on low ping

rain elbow
elder chasm
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u guys need to leave this thread and buy some skins from the cash shop if u really care

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it will make u feel better

dull violet
knotty grail
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any US west servers coming? crazy there's east and no west. West is a little bit better for aus

rain elbow
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mhm

elder chasm
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clown emoji = toxic = not welcome here. proceed straight to cash shop

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thanks for keeping this a positive happy zone for all gamers 👍

rancid night
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if you're not female id be genuinely concerned

dull violet
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Just say you're broke

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waiting for it to refresh actually kissScreen

elder chasm
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already bought out the whole damn shop cuz but no mc hammer pants Fuck this shit

dull lily
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Guys any news

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OCE

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Anti toxic

keen badger
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they released something about OCE servers has nobody seen it?

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From Supervive roadmap:
P.P.S. Also: heard on the OCE server (or lack thereof) sadness. Totally understand the negativity; playing on 170 ping is brutal. Just to be honest: our biggest challenge with OCE servers is maintaining a healthy queue population, which affects matchmaking, queue times, etc. Much bigger studios with much bigger games have launched OCE servers and had to shut them down due to low population. Ultimately it’s a risk we can’t yet take as a new, independent studio that isn’t yet profitable. One day we’d like to at least have servers closer to OCE, but we gotta get this plane off the ground first. Thank you to those playing through the ping and supporting us - sorry we don’t have the answer you’re looking for!

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posted it just incase nobody else has

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once they make some money they;; essentially add to servers for us

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Ultimately it’s a risk we can’t yet take as a new, independent studio that isn’t yet profitable. One day we’d like to at least have servers closer to OCE, but we gotta get this plane off the ground first.

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it really is a money thing

elder chasm
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they dont think there are enough players

keen badger
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no point putting money into somewhere that has had huge companies see servers go offline for good

swift narwhal
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name 5

elder chasm
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impossible challenge

keen badger
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im relyaing what my mates told me

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EA has had servers go

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named one... chill

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dont know and dont really care? im patient enough to wait for these servers and 135ms isnt bad to play on. was just trying to give others some insight instead of have a dick measuring contest

elder chasm
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ok come back when u can name 5

keen badger
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like i said a mate told me

elder chasm
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your mate just told me he was just joking

keen badger
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yep, see we got mature af people here

swift narwhal
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bunch of clowns

keen badger
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i really didnt throw a "tantrum"

kindred gyro
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my mate just told me oce servers are coming

elder chasm
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your mate just told me it was a tantrum

keen badger
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okay mate

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keyboards are a great insult weapon. i get it

elder chasm
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u should escape this place and buy some skins in the cash shop

swift narwhal
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they need to pad asia q's

obsidian fjord
keen vigil
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ea also has a proven playerbase after decades of online games and the money to throw away if that playerbase decides to not buy a new game.

harsh rapids
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damn its like people are intentionally dense abt the whole situation.

crimson fjord
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crazy how non oce come to type here when their opinion is entirely irrelevant and we all know if the roles were reversed they would saying the most obscene shit to the devs, LOSERS ICANT

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🇦🇺

trail sapphire
crimson fjord
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addressed the concerns? what? how naive can you be, they basically said after the game takes who knows how long to meet some abitrary numbers they have in their heads, they will think about moving a server CLOSER to oce

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give us numbers

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stop giving us vague answers

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also, frankly we're talking on the internet, if people get their feelings hurt because someone said some rude words to them, tell them to drink a cup of cement and harden up

trail sapphire
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ok but like even if numbers were given, and im assuming they are not close to where they would need to be, they would need to exceed that number for longer than just a couple of days, otherwise your just spending tons of money on servers for a small population that wont recoup the costs.

crimson fjord
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If we had numbers that would totally make their view point way more understandable

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a lot of us here also are spending money on the game TO support the devs

trail sapphire
trail sapphire
crimson fjord
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It would at least give us the full picture, we'd be a lot more quiet if we knew we were way off the mark.

trail sapphire
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Ok and its fine to be frustrated but being toxic about it constantly isnt acceptable..

crimson fjord
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idk man, i feel like you just be completely transparent say OK OCE we need X numbers and we are currently at X

trail sapphire
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ok and if they said we need x numbers and are no where close then what?

crimson fjord
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you'd get almost all of us to shut up

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that's what would happen

kindred gyro
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Are they expecting OCE to reach X numbers or the Global Population of the game? Cause there wont be any growth for oce on 150+ ping

trail sapphire
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ok look at if from a devs point of view, if the numbers were given and its nowhere close, I could imagine that some would still not be happy and the new issue would be those numbers arent realistic and then it would just turn into everyone is against oce in some way

crimson fjord
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No it would not

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that is such an exaggeration

trail sapphire
crimson fjord
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There is no reason for the Devs to NOT release the numbers if they are way off mark unless they are thinking along the lines that the oce players would stop playing if there was no hope entirely

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which is not the case

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we know the games run off AWS

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people know how much it takes to run servers, if QUEUE health is an issue

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POLL the OCE community

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ask them if we would be OK with longer queues

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PROVISIONAL queues is another solution

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oce server active ONLY during peak times

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a lot of people have proposed ideas here

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I got a work meeting to attend to, but hopefully my fellow oce can argue on my behalf whilst being tame as possible 🤣

minor skiff
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Hi @trail sapphire! Appreciate your input on the situation and the work you do within the discord. Could we hear your thoughts on what you think would be most optimal for us to do? As fans of the game, we want to support it but are finding it very difficult to. Is there anything that comes to your mind on what we should do?

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I also understand if you don't/can't provide your personal opinion, was just curious on thoughts if you could provide any

trail sapphire
# minor skiff Hi <@189822118714671104>! Appreciate your input on the situation and the work yo...

I'm a dev in no way, nor do i know costs or anything. But I look at it as if i was an investor, would it be worth it at the moment, for a game that is still in beta, to put money into servers that have some history of not having a big population to recoup what your paying for them. Remember the game is still in BETA, and im not saying they wont come. But personally i think yall would need a community outside of the discord, whether its another discord, reddit, ect, that shows hey we have a large group of people from oce that want to play, as well as numbers they could see on their end in game stat wise that back up the numbers in your community constantly trying to play from your region. Like they know you guys want to play but for where the game is at it development state i can understand why they are hesitant on putting money in the servers. But they all understand your frustrations and want an oce to thrive in the community for supervive as well. Its just a matter, in my own opinion, if its the right time for the risk atm.

keen vigil
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^ Also they're not profitable as a company yet. So a server that is unlikely for immediate financial return is not a smart move with where TC is right now from a pure finances standpoint.

trail sapphire
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and they hear all of you, believe me.

keen vigil
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I wouldn't be surprised if in a years time when they're looking more stable as a company they make a huge marketing push for OCE servers

trail sapphire
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I just think it would be better to see more compassion here for the game rather than being upset and being frustrated (while its understandable) so they know how much the game means to yall

swift narwhal
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Go play 10 games on the Asia server and see how bad it is to play with our ping, shiv would be unplayable for you

trail sapphire
minor skiff
# trail sapphire I'm a dev in no way, nor do i know costs or anything. But I look at it as if i w...

Gotcha! We understand what you're saying and know that it might be a risk and that we don't have the biggest community compared to other regions. We've had plenty of discussion over what the actual costs are and what figures might look like but these are mostly speculative. I think what a lot of people are hoping for is someone to work with us on what needs to be done for our servers to become a reality. Whether it be a specific Reddit page or a poll or our own discord. We want to show our care and support but some are finding it to be a struggle with how we have to play the game.
I think the community is just looking for a little hope, a light (dev) to guide us on a path that we can stick to so we know we're playing and paying for our and the companies benefit.

Some have pointed out that it's hard to show support in the current state we have to play in and I also agree with this. A competitive game like this one doesn't favour those who are running on 150ms ping. How can we go to our friends and say "You should totally play this kickass game that's come out, it's a blast! Just ignore the fact that you'll be versing people at a better advantage than you and that your character will rubber band a bit, but you'll love it!"

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I feel like I've rambled, I'm usually a sidelines spectator but I was hoping to be a little more delicate cause this chat can get out of hands sometimes

trail sapphire
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No answer i can give will be the correct answer or wanted answer but just trying to help some try to be understanding to an extent

minor skiff
keen vigil
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This is the most productive I have seen this chat recently and I really appreciate the willingness to talk tonight. I think this is a fantastic example the devs can look to for how passionate the OCE community is

minor skiff
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I know some fellow oce people reading my messages probably hate what I'm saying, but I think being understanding is the best we can do until we get further direction. Of course we can still show our love and hope for the game in this chat too! That shouldn't stop at all

harsh rapids
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Yall got no business acumen. It’s not just about pop in OCE servers it’s about where they’re allocating capital vs returns and growth they get. If investing in NA servers results in greater growth why waste time in OCE. Especially when funding and loans are expensive currently.

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An actual recommendation: nothing moves the needle more than $ spent. If at 150 ping OCE is dropping more $ than NA or Europe then it would make sense to reevaluate.

That & play time ofc

minor skiff
# harsh rapids Yall got no business acumen. It’s not just about pop in OCE servers it’s about w...

You're right! Financially it may be better to grow the NA region than to put resources anywhere else. We only hope that they think about where some of their community is and how they want to treat fans of their games. I think if it was a company like EA or Blizzard, they'd for sure take a route like that if they could. But I think these guys are different in wanting to engage and work for the community (At least based on what's been said and shown online)

I would love to spend money on this game to show support, I just can't knowing that my support won't go towards the benefit of myself and others within the community. For example, if you had to purchase the game, I wouldn't buy it knowing I can't play within my region

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It's a difficult situation and we mainly just hope for a formal discussion with a Dev just to discuss a potential goal for the future

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I keep saying "we" in hoping others are understanding where I'm coming from. If not then I guess I'm in the wrong and to disregard what I'm saying

dull lily
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OCE now

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Steam charts dropping

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OCE boys are all leaving

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When will they learn

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You cannot have a successful game without the big OCE banks

trail sapphire
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Numbers are expected to drop after the first few weeks

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Tbh

exotic orbit
harsh rapids
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No one is expecting it that’s why no one is expecting to get OCE servers this early on which is my point. Money pays the bills

ocean anchor
harsh rapids
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lol yes but market in America is >>

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So if they were the same it would still outsell so makes sense to invest elsewhere than OCE

ocean anchor
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funny how you use the word invest yet fail to understand making an oce server when your game is in it's most hyped state it will ever be, is an investment.

harsh rapids
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lol I work in finance. You’re missing the cost of investing. Money to OCE means less money to NA or EU

ocean anchor
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but they have that greater market don't they lmao

harsh rapids
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Where the return is greater in terms of money or population count

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No? We have one server in America

ocean anchor
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still dont understand an investment lmao

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works in finance, puts all his marbles in one bag

harsh rapids
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California to east coast ping is easily around 100 on okay internet

ocean anchor
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genius american

harsh rapids
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lol ..

exotic orbit
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Hard to invest in something when their sales pitch is "we understand 170ping is brutal to play in, and in our roadmap we have zero intention of getting OCE servers online."

nocturne prairie
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just play hudson he feels playable on oce ping :)

harsh rapids
exotic orbit
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But they also stated that there's a minimum population requirement to get servers. It's a downward spiral of "we need to see a lot of people playing to get you servers, but currently no one wants to play because there are no servers".

harsh rapids
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yeah i mean what can u do other than play and show you like the game

exotic orbit
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Why play a competitive online pvp game when i'm at a clear disadvantage because of ping?

harsh rapids
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if you like it enough

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I've played escape from tarkov on bad ping a lot and honestly its not that bad.

verbal obsidian
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i just wanna play brall properly but i cant with 140ms 😦

nocturne prairie
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there are only like 50 people in this thread and the server has thousands and thousands of people in it

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we just a loud minority at this point

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if u want a competitive game with oce servers i wouldnt keep ur hopes up itll be supervive

exotic orbit
ocean anchor
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tbf not many oce players are gonna play with the lag then decide to join the discord server. even less are gonna stay after being left in the dark

nocturne prairie
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nearly every person i have played supervive with from other games are in the server

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also i feel like we havent been left in the dark, devs have responded

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its just not the response you want so you ignore it

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i want low ping too but they have been super genuine in their response imo

verbal obsidian
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from aus and luv the game to much to give up on it so ill still be playin xx

nocturne prairie
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ye same

vivid prawn
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Unfortunately it's a self fulfilling prophecy. People will stop playing because of lag, then there are not enough numbers. I already have stopped playing as much because of it

rancid night
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its fine until you verse a team with half a brain and you just hard lose

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my mates and I have all quit due to lag aswell.

kindred gyro
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+1 to my mates and myself quitting due to lag

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it just doesnt feel good to play on 150+ ms and I dont expect people to stick around playing on it

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cant play half the champions properly, movement in fights especially big ones just turns into a rubberbanding mess into death, the champions you can play you're fighting an uphill battle of trying to aim properly, sometimes the lag can be so bad mobs some how knock you out even if you weren't gliding (seen happen at the machine)

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i could keep going

dawn cypress
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Give OCE servers

dull lily
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Yeah can’t play more than half the champs

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+4 here to quitting

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My whole friend group officially quit today

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GG

pale lava
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We down bad

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No OCE = player base down

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The great migration to Singapore wen

crimson fjord
knotty grail
#

On another note, this game does have the potential to be big, but you don't only need the momentum and people playing it, you need people viewing it. OCE servers are going to help with that. It's not just us playing that's going to help, it's us viewing. Tournaments, streamers, events, etc., and those views in turn will help with attention - which the game definitely deservers. If OCE players can't play or be involved, we most likely will not watch. If you want to be one of the big dogs, you need to open with OCE servers, or get something sorted soon. I hope this game does well, but the servers need to have a larger coverage for widespread adoption of this game.

rich magnet
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I've really enjoyed Supervive, but not being able to play most characters and losing fights consistently due to ping has gotten too frustrating. I'm quitting as well, unfortunately 😦

obsidian fjord
#

path of exile 2 is almost here

trail sapphire
obsidian fjord
nocturne prairie
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hey i grind a game that only has 500 viewers on twitch atm

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:c

minor skiff
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I mean it is like 3am in US and 8am in EU

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LoL only has 43K viewers right now to compare ghostyay

nocturne prairie
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ye

gilded raven
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The games only dead once there is content saying it's dead imo.

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+5 on not playing Supervive consistently, without better servers there's no point.

gilded raven
kindred gyro
nocturne prairie
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how many stage games did u play with chiefs :o

kindred gyro
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It was all online back when I played, there was no LCO studio or anything

nocturne prairie
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2016 opl was stage afaik

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o u were a sub anyways

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sadge

kindred gyro
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ye of course, swip3rr was my mentor and a god in the top lane

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dont think I could take his starting spot even if I wanted to back then

knotty grail
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you cant compare the two

elder chasm
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no oce server, no mc hammer pants ....

dull lily
nocturne prairie
kindred gyro
dull lily
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Time flies huh

obsidian fjord
#

i hear marvel rivals is dropping with oce servers!

image0.png
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who is hopping on

rich magnet
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Oh awesome, will check it out for sure

lapis peak
#

game has 91% positive reviews, needs 95% for overwhelmingly positive, oce servers could fix that changing all those negative reviews from frustrated OCE players into positive ones 😉

mortal vortex
#

Even I must say, I was big on "guys lets just hold out and OCE servers will come in time"

But recently I have been launching the game, keen to play, I might play 1 or 2 games then inevitably die to some bs 100 ping moment and I just close the game. Pretty depressing considering how much I had been enjoying the game since Steam Next Fest.

keen vigil
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I know the feel. NA servers have been borked since open beta launch. I've been on 100+ ping constantly

mortal vortex
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But I shouldn't have to pay for a third party application to semi enjoy the game

keen vigil
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I'm with you there. It's a set of unfortunate circumstances

mortal vortex
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Just sadly one of those circumstances that it's going to push more players from the games and the "queue health" they are supposedly trying to protect is going to suffer because of it

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so many players who are currently pushing through the ping but eventually we will get sick of it and stop playing

frank saddle
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🫡

keen vigil
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I'm not sure what kind of analytics they have at TC but I'm almost wondering if it would be beneficial to make a petition tallying every oce player you can get to sign it? Just to put a number to the name. Right now I think at least in the discord there's a severe lack of information around how many oce players there currently are waiting for support and pushing through the ping.

mortal vortex
keen vigil
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Either way it would show considerable initiative form the oce playerbase. It could be one step towards getting those servers online

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idk I think it would be woth the effort even if nothing comes of it

swift narwhal
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They aren’t giving us a server, you see how many streamers they paid to play the game but they can’t afford to give oce a server for a month to see if a player base gets off the ground lol

crimson fjord
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I appreciate the support and sentiment @keen vigil thank you.

While I am not opposed to the idea of getting a petition, it just feels even worse knowing how many hurdles we need to jump over compared to other regions just to enjoy this great game.

lapis peak
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Sadly agree, at this point just have to accept it's not happening, just gonna have to go next game and hope one day in the future this game will be popular enough they consider OCE. Not holding my breath.

dull lily
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So many people are quitting

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Look at the steam charts

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The game is tanking

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The devs have not made any announcements or said anything

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Game is finished sadly

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Too busy putting out a road map about up coming skins for fuck sakes

keen vigil
# dull lily Look at the steam charts

It was likely an afk bot purge. We don't really have any evidence to know whether or not it actually was active players.

Until any official word we can't take anything at face value about the "decline" of the game.

dull lily
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Well Jesus Christ 20k players is terrible

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And they expect people to believe they have had 1m players?

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With a 47k player peak

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No more than 4.7% of the total people that have played this game have been online at the same time….

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I find that very VERY hard to believe

keen vigil
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1m unique makes sense considering the event that next fest was. Probably lots of installs and uninstall from players who gave it a try and decided it wasn't for them.

You're confusing concurrent with total. And aren't those stats for the whole lifetime of the game? Closed alphas and all?

dull lily
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I’m not confused mate

keen vigil
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Sorry let me rephrase

dull lily
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I understand basic English

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I’m saying the devs are likely full of shit

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Their whole marketing plan has been terrible

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Forcing league players to pay

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Turned the game into a raid shadow legends type of meme

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Anytime these streamers play the game their chat spams boring vive

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👏 for whoever came up with that genius idea

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You cannot force growth

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You need to create a community

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And the devs won’t even respond to theirs

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Would it be that hard to update OCE with a timeline? Would it be that hard to post announcements more frequently?

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This is the critical phase for the games longevity and they haven’t made an announcement in over 1 week

keen vigil
# keen vigil Sorry let me rephrase

Well I was going g to rephrase and then discord bugged so I'll just give a summary:

1m total installs is large. People log in and out all 24 hours of the day every day. The chances of a larger percentage of them being online together at any given point is infinitesimally small.

dull lily
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No money left - spent too much forcing big streamers to play for 4 hours

keen vigil
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I get you're feeling any range of emotions right now regarding the game but what is being so negative practically going to do?

dull lily
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I would expect at least 15%

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4.7% is a joke mate

dull lily
keen vigil
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Total installs during the lifetime of the game. Including a major steam event where thousands of people may have e tried the game and figured out it wasn't for them. They still count as unique players.

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The actual install base is likely significantly smaller

dull lily
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I feel as though the way I feel is shared by a lot of the community here in OCE and I’m sure other pockets of communities have similar resentments due to the fucking terrible communication and embarrassing marketing strategy

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Whoever is making those decisions and whoever is in charge of communicating to their customer base should be fucking sacked

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Because they have done a terrible job

keen vigil
# dull lily I feel as though the way I feel is shared by a lot of the community here in OCE ...

The aggressive language you're using is likely having the opposite effect that you think it might have on getting a response. I know that in a similar situation the last part of my community I'd want to engage with is folks making such inflammatory remarks.

I know you are likely a very reasonable and intelligent person, but saying "They've done a terrible fucking job" and "they should be fucking sacked" does not communicate that you are willing to have a productive conversation. It reads as reactionary and aggressive.

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I get the frustration, I have been having issues since ob launch and have heard next to nothing about them. But this isn't the way man. Reading messages like this isn't going to help them improve your experience, it's just going to make them want to ignore you more.

dull lily
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Oh well I don’t care

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I’ve quit

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Like most people are doing

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Good luck to them and everyone else

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Will come back if they can give us better ping

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2024

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Joke

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Marvel rivals has Oce

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Might go play that

void glade
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like myself

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i would have purchased a supporter pack had those servers existed

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but i cant warrant spending money on a game that fails to deliver an acceptable ping

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and with the way the monetisation is in supervive currently. i dont see it becoming profitable either

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people are fed up of FOMO stores with 3 types of currency and then they decided to release the beta with exactly that?

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alot of worrying decisions made by the devs in my opinion

dull lily
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Yep

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Fun game

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Ruined by devs with poor oversight

void glade
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ill add on to this a personal experience to back my first statement. Myself and a group of 9 other friends all hopped on to supervive when the marketing boom was happening a few weeks ago. We played for a few nights, had fun with the base game, got better, started noticing the rubberbanding in dashes and skill shots and got a bit down. I decided to wait and see if there would be a dev response due to the sheer amount of people asking for an OCE server as i felt their response for SA would mean it was likely we could get a server in some capacity only for the devs to mention OCE as a SECONDARY footnote to a larger announcement and basically say "we hear you but we dont think you will make us any money so you dont get servers"

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its rather disheartening

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this group by the way for a bit of context is made up of long time league of legends players, who in total will have spent somewhere in the realm of ~$20k - $30k across the years we have played, one of those people having an account with every skin in the game unlocked.

crimson fjord
# void glade ill add on to this a personal experience to back my first statement. Myself and ...

Totally agreed and relatable as well. The difference is my friends and I actually did pay for the supporter packs as we wanted to support the devs because the game is actually really fun, and everyone feels like they can hop in and enjoy casually, or some of us queue ranked because we want to tryhard then take a step back and play with other friends who just wanna play casually.

Unfortunately they also get understandably frustrated with rubber banding and skills not registering. Honestly one of my mates is super into Brall and legit bought his skin day one but he feels dejected once he found out he can't even swing as fast as other bralls can on good ping because of how Brall's empowered AA is coded and how higher ping makes it impossible to use Bralls empowered AAs at max potential. This has been documented in one of the feedback threads.

It feels awful to all of us where now suddenly we can't even play the characters we want without being severely handicapped.. We were already handicapped due to the ping and now we are more handicapped on certain hunters because their kit is inhibited by ping as well. It's just a shit situation..

I would love for the Devs to just release OCE servers, but I understand where they are coming from. That's why I am pushing for the Devs to just give us numbers on how far off the mark we are.

I feel that majority of us would be ok with being told that we need X numbers and we are currently at Y numbers therefore we are no where close to the numbers feasible for a server open only during peak oce time (5pm to midnight GMT 10/11) and all of us would accept it and move on from this topic.

void glade
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also with the new announcement surrounding the #⭐│starred-for-devs channel does that mean we can all just ⭐ "OCE SERVERS!" comments?

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if so uhhhh

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OCE SERVERS!

crimson fjord
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Unfortunately I don't think that will apply to this thread as this is really just a venting place for us at this point and I don't think the devs want to read the comments here

keen vigil
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let's do it with one or two. Spamming the channel isn't a good idea imo

void glade
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ranked arenas got spammed like 5 times lol

keen vigil
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So we should also clog the channel? Let's not abuse a good thing, it could ruin it for everyone.