LVL vs Items

[faint field]

Something I have noticed is regardless of your item build if the opposing team is a higher level my team almost always gets washed. I know the devs have stressed they want the game to feel more skill based on move sets and using your kit and I have felt that but when its a straight up brawl with no way to maneuver I have almost never won against a opposing team of higher level, like it hasn't even been close regardless of how many autos you dodge or skill shots. once they close the gap its over. Just my thoughts

[flint dagger]

don't take bad fights.
What if you're not only a level down, but also they have full armor, gold armor, your team only has whites and half armor?
Use strategy and the terrain.
We are outgeared, out-armored, and out-leveled in this clip, but we win with strategy.

I feel where you're coming from, though. I really do. Being more powerful, statistically, is obviously an advantage, and losing from an advantage you didn't have the chance to equalize can be unhappy.

[undone agate]

To add to this.

regardless of your item build if the opposing team is a higher level my team almost always gets washed
If you approach the fight as if you're on par with them, yes, this absolutely will happen.
The #1 most effective way to lose a fight while behind is to approach it as if you're not behind. Don't do that.
If you're behind in power relative to your opponents, play like you're behind, because you are.

I've lost quite a few fights to lvl 4 teams while my team had lvl 5, purely because we misplayed it or because the enemy team just played it better. I've won the same fight from the perspective as the behind team multiple times.
Fighting from behind is inherently rough. Always has been, always will be.

[flint dagger]

Yeah and we have all these progression systems in place to help us feel and become stronger. We level up, we get equipment, we acquire objectives. If they made this matter less, these systems become a waste. There's going to be advantages at any state of the game. Assessing how strong the opponent is relative to your own power is a skill to be developed, and as Oatmeal said, learning how to play from behind is another skill to develop.

[rain drift]

I also think this is just about learning the game. When you first start and find another team, you instantly want to fight and you may just lose. Learning to kite around, poke and also retreat together as a team is a big part of the tactics you will develop over time

[obsidian ice]

You also have a Stalker in your team lol

[flint dagger]

hey hey hey we're trying to encourage someone here :ah ah ah:

[rugged gorge]

hum the grenade setup into the spiked wall made the fight here stalker or any other character would have been the same imo

[obsidian ice]

Yeah they walked into that grenade like an ACME trap tbh lol