#Dedicated Racing City

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chilly sluice
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Since in the next update we will be getting cars, I have had the thought of setting up a dedicated server for racing and driving around.

Base Idea: A massive city landscape where players can race on roads and explore locations such as parks and fully decorated buildings.

Imagined Content:
-Massive city landscape to race through.
-Option to have racing and leisurely driving [either at once or independent of each other, though these casual drivers could also be an obstacle racers have to avoid]
-Electronically activated doors that can cut off a street mid-race to provide a new difficulty.
-Obstacles that the racers will have to face such as spikes, slime [if cars get slowed by them] and mobs.
-Conveyor belts for boost pads and to slow racers down. [If conveyor belts affect cars]
-Items players can get to slow the competition down [bombs or other items] [[big maybe here, repairing a race track every-time players race would get tedious]]

Racing Rewards:
While racing is fun, what's the point if you cant get anything out of it?
-Top 3 winners get prizes.
-Donations by players for said prizes. [example: to pay for a 'ticket' to race you may donate an item/s. Of course i wouldn't want to stop players from racing if they didn't have anything to donate, but it would be a good idea since i would go broke trying to provide all the prize winnings myself.]

Anyone Interested in this idea? [If someone has further ideas to add onto this please let me know]
@boreal inlet , @fossil pelican

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I am aware that players will be completing/ playing the update at their own pace so i can always bring this idea back up later if need be.

forest salmon
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Sounds interesting! A good idea might be splitting into sub-teams like:
Resource suppliers
Race track engineers
Builders
Map also can be used both for tournaments and practice. For example, if there will be some trick (like tight angle turn) that it difficult to do, you could make a short track where you could practice that.

chilly sluice
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yeah, i wanted to build it so that players can race, but can also go at their own pace too

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and if anyone wanted to help me with my idea either by clearing land, getting supplies and the like than that would be amazing, it would be alot of work just for me lol

forest salmon
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We could also have a separate server (discord) for racing event sand stuff, or just for easier way to communicate if we will have a somewhat big team

chilly sluice
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that is true, if/once it gets big enough than we can look into doing it, but since we have 3 people [4 if counting me] that have shown interest, i say we hold off 4 now

forest salmon
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Roger

chilly sluice
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ill set up the dedicated server tomorrow, would you rather do building, resource collecting/crafting or land clearing? [or a mix of some whatever u'd like]

boreal inlet
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@chilly sluice I'm a game developer :D

chilly sluice
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oooo really? thats p swag

boreal inlet
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so I can come up with fun ideas

chilly sluice
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nicee, closest things i have to game developing is coding my own mods XD

forest salmon
normal roost
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I love your idea 🔥

chilly sluice
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aight, is it am or pm for you rn, dont really care about specifics id just like to know for communitcation reasons

forest salmon
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2pm

chilly sluice
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aight, currently 10pm for me

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would you rather i set up the server now or can you wait till tmmr?

normal roost
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1pm

chilly sluice
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oh nice you are both close in time

forest salmon
normal roost
pale sandal
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If you're serious-serious about this, I would be down to donate resources for building and prizes. This is a fun project I can get behind.

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also I have a hoarding problem

boreal inlet
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I'd love to

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@chilly sluice I'd take charge in like testing what mechanics we can do in our race course

chilly sluice
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You can certainly do that my good sir, I hate electronic building/"redstone" so I'd love help with it lol

chilly sluice
pale sandal
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This kind of idea makes me look forward to the eventual automation overhaul all the more. There's not a ton you can do with it for racing stuff just yet beyond lighting tricks and doors that open and close on their own.

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And also conveyor belt shenanigans.

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But! We will see what kinds of new toys the Update gives us.

chilly sluice
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yes indeed, if we had like dispensers like minecraft that would help with traps but as is, we gotta deal with what we got rn

green shard
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Not actually sure if enemies can shoot through fences, but you could "catch" some scholars or shamans and put them in a little 1x1 as at least an obstacle

pale sandal
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They can! It's just that keeping them in those fences is unreliable if you're not within range of them.

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For now.

chilly sluice
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yeah, that was gonna be an idea, however with the scale of the racing city im not sure if it would work well, and if we race past them too fast then they wont do much

pale sandal
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Also, mold ground would make a fun obstacle. Well, "fun"

chilly sluice
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i was also going to say that lol, just waiting to see if it effects players in cars

green shard
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Could also do it triathlon style. have a boat section in between

pale sandal
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Yes!

chilly sluice
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very true

pale sandal
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You could also set up alternative paths, and block them off every so often to change up the race path without having to redo the course every time.

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Just with fences.

green shard
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True! Real tracks do that as well

chilly sluice
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yeah, that was already an idea w/ electonic doors but it wont be too hard to just use fences every so often

pale sandal
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Which can include canals for boat races. We don't have switching bridges (yet) but bridge tiles are just a click away to remove.

green shard
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Idea is more of changing the whole course instead of just having it as an obstacle. More diversity without too much extra work

pale sandal
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Ye

green shard
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or I might've just misunderstood the blood hunter xD

chilly sluice
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no its close to what i was thinking, forcing racers to go diff ways which could lead into enemies or traps.

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should the road itself be 5 tiles wide or bigger? since ill need to have sidewalks and i was thinking those are 2 tiles wide

pale sandal
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5 max, like at the start, but make it change throughout the race.

chilly sluice
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hmmm, got an idea as well. Make allyways as shortcuts but they are narrow and have solid obsticals

green shard
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probs depends on the people racing. Trailer showed 6 tiles and with 6 people racing, that could get pretty bumpy, especially in the beginning

pale sandal
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I remember when trying to make roads, anything more than 5 was just way too big for the screen to read right.

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Hmm, that's also a good point.

chilly sluice
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i was thinking 5 cus its a even number with white strips down the middle

green shard
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if the race goes on a while, having it 5 is probs good, but beginning should probably be 7 tiles

chilly sluice
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but if it needs to be bigger then id have to go to 7 wide

green shard
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so starting line and like the first one or two bends 7

chilly sluice
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alright, like starting area where all the cars idol?

pale sandal
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I suppose the bigger question is whether or not it's vertical or horizontal.

green shard
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ye

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horizontal gives more visual space, so starting line should probably be horizontal

chilly sluice
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good idea

green shard
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one thing that would be cool to try out is if bombs explode on impact

pale sandal
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ooh

green shard
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as long as people survive, it'd be fun to just place mines like in mario cart (if possible)

chilly sluice
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i just dont want to fix the track every time

green shard
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or! if you can place stuff, then maybe if some deco stuff is breakable, but slows you down, that could be a good way to do it

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so like the little wooden boxes that you have to shovel up

green shard
pale sandal
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Oh! You can actually use portals as part of the track! I was sad when I learned you can't run rails through them. Maybe they could be used as checkpoints (mostly for spectators).

green shard
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True! then even dying won't matter too much >:)

pale sandal
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:D

chilly sluice
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if portals were implemented, it would either only be for spectators [if we had any] or a really obscure shortcut since i want it to rely on skill not teleportation magic

pale sandal
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You at least want a judge or two hanging out.

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So it'd be handy to get them ahead of the racers.

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Alongside clever building to give people on foot a faster path.

chilly sluice
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that is true

green shard
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or giving the spectators cars as well

pale sandal
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I may be sitting on a trove of ideas from a defunct rail rollercoaster project.

green shard
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and I have been thinking about a race track the moment I saw the trailer. Damn mario kart!

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and if you look closely at the video, you can see that the three cars go a different speed. so it might be good to only use the second fastest and give the judges / viewers the fastest to keep up with them

chilly sluice
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i was thinking of differnt styles of racing, each type with the diff cars

green shard
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the slowest one might not be much of a race though. it's more of a crawl

pale sandal
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Again, I will throw materials at you all in the name of making this happen. However it ends up looking. I'm a sucker for ambitious projects.

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Better to spend more time actually building than out gathering. Though gathering time is good idea-crafting time.

chilly sluice
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i guess ill just have to wait to see how they work/how fast they go. slow cars might not be used for racing but instead scenery looking

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or build even inside this city, a bumpercar track or something where people can mess about while others race [like if a racer gets eliminated then they can mess about in there or go into the judges booth]

pale sandal
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ooh

green shard
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just add a whole theme park / zoo on the side

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mini biomes and stuff to look at

chilly sluice
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while digging out the world, ill leave a chest and repair table at the core so anyone who helps with land clearing can repair their tools 4 free

green shard
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As soon as you setup the server, you should also setup a script to auto backup the server every day or maybe even more often during the building

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Not that someone damages stuff

pale sandal
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You never know. There's always the occasional sand-castle kicker. But either way, backups are always a good idea.

chilly sluice
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im not sure how to do that

green shard
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If you set it up on a server then a cronjob to stop the server, copy the map and start the server again

chilly sluice
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couldnt i just do something like that but manually?

green shard
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Of course, but why do it manually, when it can be automated? 😀

Besides, if you want do do backups every 8 hours, even whilst you are asleep for folks that are up late, then a script would be best

chilly sluice
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true, i just dont understand coding in any way

green shard
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If you need help with it let me know. Stuff like that is part of my day job

chilly sluice
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aighty, thank u :]]

chilly sluice
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I will be putting the dedicated world up later today since i wont be able to be online tmmr

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if any of yall wanna start with land clearing that would be great, but if not no issue :]

chilly sluice
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Game Code for the server: k4BruDDWUmmtsMuRVgviNQ8DBlJK
The World is now up.
If it is not up @ me and i will put it back on again.

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Also, i will be supplying free food in the chests if you run out or dont have any.

pale sandal
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Crashing in with my excavation gear.

chilly sluice
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:]], ive got to do some house cleaning for a bit, but ill join as soon as i can

pale sandal
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No worries. I've been briefly derailed because it sank in we may want a few more things.

pale sandal
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My connection to the server has not been the most stable

chilly sluice
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yeah im not sure whats going on, it wont let me join at all

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it was fine a little bit ago

pale sandal
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But I'm so close to having the Ghorm Highway almost clear

chilly sluice
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ooooo very good

pale sandal
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it seemed like a good idea to get that out of the way so that items don't pile up endlessly while everything else is being dug out

chilly sluice
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yeah, i was going to do that when i got on 2, but im not having much luck joining at the moment

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are you able to get on the server?

pale sandal
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Nope

chilly sluice
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im going to shut it down for a minute and see if the logs say anything ://

chilly sluice
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Ill fix anything in a few hours, cant do it atm sadly. Hopefully ittl be fine soon :]]

pale sandal
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No worries

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All the more reason to set it up before the Update drops

chilly sluice
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👍 indeed

pale sandal
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I left behind like 4 more stacks of repair scrap, a tiny warehouse, and set up two copper boulders to break down while the server was up, in addition to the progress on the Ghorm Highway

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Oh yeah. And an extra Grubzooka.

chilly sluice
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oh damn, mega thank you :D.

pale sandal
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It's also nothing I'm too concerned with losing in case the server completely explodes.

chilly sluice
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i hope it doesnt lmao, worst case is we have to start again :/

pale sandal
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Ye

chilly sluice
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but its probably just a router issue

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i didnt configure something before starting so it got overloaded or the like

pale sandal
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Hopefully nothing unfixable

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Well, back to collecting eggs

chilly sluice
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good luck loll

pale sandal
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I think I need to set up more grub spawners

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chilly sluice
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indeeed

forest salmon
bold warren
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i wannna go to racing city

forest salmon
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@chilly sluice Give me a task. Command me. Tell me what to do.

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For racing city

chilly sluice
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I need you to craft a whole lot of paintable floor tiles and walls

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I am doing tinkering with the server, moving it to a whole new computer so it's taking a little bit rn

chilly sluice
pale sandal
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If you need it, I have an obscene amount of clay walls with construction plans that are going to get me more.

chilly sluice
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i mean, both of yall would be great to get em

chilly sluice
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Got a big issue that cant be resolved. I cant host the world. No matter what is done, whether its running on a computer or a separate server, changing the ports and IP. I can not run it. If someone else could try to run it that would be great. I dont wanna give up on this idea but i just can not run it myself. Ive been trying for hours now and nothing is working. Not even making a whole new world/server to run.

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Im not sure what happened since it ran fine on the 6th. But something happened that has perma stopped me from running it.

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If i have to, i could always just make a normal world and do it that way, but it would only run when i am in it myself (obv)

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@green shard Would you be able to try and run a dedicated server? I know you were talking about server functions so i assume you have some knowledge of it.

chilly sluice
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I can give the world info to anyone who wants to host it so we can pick back up where we left off.

forest salmon
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My pc is made out of rainbow (bad), so cant help here

chilly sluice
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Yeah, that's all good, if no one can do it I'll just run a standard world and try not to leave it until I know no one is on lol

green shard
green shard
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@chilly sluice Should be running now (including backups every 8 hours). Just need your map files now

green shard
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Gonna put the game id in here for people to test connection:
gJmQ9GvsPCMlR3UWMJJWIDWhwe5n

If there are any connection issues lemme know

forest salmon
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@green shard is it going to be main server?

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If yes, I will start making rooms for chests

green shard
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At least I think there was shrug

forest salmon
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I see

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Connection was good btw

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No ping

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everything breaks instantly

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drops work fine

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block placement fine too

green shard
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Awesome :D
Will probably add an automatic restart in the future, just to make sure there are no problems with mem leaks

forest salmon
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Could you shortly explain what is a memory leak?

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Like, what happens

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literally

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Something like: "1's decide to impregnate all 0's that are below them, which makes them pregnant and give birth to independent 1's and 0's that run away"

green shard
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So basically: every piece of info (variables) take up memory. When that info isn't needed anymore, the garbage collector is supposed to remove that info from the memory. But sometimes there's a problem with it and that unneeded info remains in memory. But new info is created all the time as well, so your memory fills up after a bit and that basically makes your PC suuuuper slow

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So for all game servers, I like to do auto restarts just to make sure that doesn't happen

forest salmon
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It means that it would simply make server super laggy?

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Or is there something else that happens? Like...files corrupting or just getting deleted.

green shard
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Nah, just make the whole server super laggy. And since every other program gets affected by that as well, I'd rather just restart once a day or so

forest salmon
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I see. Thanks for your time.

green shard
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No problem :)

chilly sluice
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alright, i can send the files now

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was 💤

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sent you the world stuff, lemme know if u need more than that

green shard
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@forest salmon did you build stuff? If so, I don't think it worked

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Ah no, I think we're good. 4,5 stacks of scrap should be the stuff from @pale sandal

chilly sluice
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is the gameID the same?

green shard
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yeah

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should always stay the same, unless I manually change it

chilly sluice
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it wont let me connect, just says 'Connection Failed'.

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the same thing it always said when i was trying to do it on my computer

green shard
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hmmm, did you try a specific ip?

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well port and then connect via ip

chilly sluice
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? not sure what you mean

green shard
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you can set a port for the server and then you have to connect to it via ip:port instead of the game id

chilly sluice
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we did try that, but it didnt work

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do you have a port n Id i can try to use to connect?

green shard
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I'd have to switch the server over to it and I'm not 100% sure if I can do it via the ServerConfig.json

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I'm using the docker container, so I don't really think I can just add a port to it

chilly sluice
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lemme try one last thing

forest salmon
chilly sluice
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tried uninstalling and reinstalling Core Keeper, still cant connect

green shard
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try it again pls

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disabled the steam thing and it now uses ip and port

chilly sluice
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What is it?

green shard
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It should still use the old key. Looks like you cant even put in an ip addr since it doesn't allow dots

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or I just don't know where to put it

chilly sluice
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yeah, cant use . or :

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one last idea, i could try connecting to the server via being a steam friend? Nothing else seems to be working

green shard
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Would that work since it's a dedicated server?

chilly sluice
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i dont know, not sure how Core Keeper works these things.

green shard
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you can just send me a friend request. Should be in my discord profile

chilly sluice
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alright, sent it

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nope, Connection Still Failed

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I dont know whats going on

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am i just now incapable of ever playing Dedicated Servers?? It was fine on the 6th but now i cant

green shard
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I'mma invite you to a local world. if that doesn't work then there's deffo something wrong

chilly sluice
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do local worlds do work, but Dedicated Servers dont

green shard
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one last try. now I've started a dedicated server on my machine

chilly sluice
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nope, Connection Failed

green shard
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huh. looks like it's really something with the dedicated server. Not sure if it does anything different with networking

chilly sluice
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its strange, cus my dad couldnt connect either when we were testing all the ways to try and get it running

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even if it was on his machine

green shard
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Hmm. Maybe local worlds are somehow p2p...? I just know that they use the steam networking stuff, even for local play

chilly sluice
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i just dont understand it, why would Local work but Dedicated cant? and its not just me since people online have experienced the same issues with no follow up to know if they fixed it

green shard
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you have an ipv4 or ipv6 publicly?

chilly sluice
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i assume ipv4 since my dad turned ipv6 off

green shard
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doesn't matter. It's what your isp gives you

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just google "what is my ip" and it should tell you

chilly sluice
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aight

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Ipv4

green shard
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Huh. Then i definitely have no idea

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You could try once again if you're still online. I had the ports closed but was still able to connect

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maybe it made some problems for you though

chilly sluice
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connect via Code or Invite?

green shard
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should be the same thing (i hope)

chilly sluice
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Still Failed

green shard
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that's really weird. "connection failed" kinda implies it was able to connect initially but then something went wrong

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so it's not really a networking thing... maybe

chilly sluice
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yeah i have no clue, im just assuming i cant connect to Dedicated Servers ever again

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maybe i can try again once the game updates? but til then no clue

green shard
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Maybe? You said it worked before, so I guess something must've changed

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i don't think there was an update though

chilly sluice
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It was assumed at first that it was because of another dedicated server that dad had just run for Conan. It was launched around 3pm, and after that Core Keeper's Dedicated Server no longer worked. We figured out that Core Keeper uses the exact same port number that Conan was using, however even after changing the Port number that Conan ran on, the Core Keeper server still did not work again

green shard
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I don't really think that that somehow could cause an issue. Especially not if it's about a server in a different country

chilly sluice
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It was our only real lead on what was going on, but since it didnt change even after having the Port changed, we couldnt figure anything else out

green shard
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Did you try connecting to a dedicated server with your dads pc? that would at least tell you if it's your pc or somehow a networking issue

chilly sluice
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i did, still didnt work

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we both got the same 'Connection Failed' message

green shard
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Huh. Either router or networking in general. Wanna put this all on hold until the update?

chilly sluice
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yeah, probably best

chilly sluice
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forgot to say it, but i appreciate you helping with running the server n stuff :]]

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hopefully the update fixes it, if not then ill try running a local world and see if that works

green shard
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No worries :) always happy to help. And it seems that there was an update on the fifth, so that might have caused some problems

chilly sluice
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ah alright

bold warren
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is there a code?

chilly sluice
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there is:
gJmQ9GvsPCMlR3UWMJJWIDWhwe5n

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if you can join, then work on clearing out the area as usual

bold warren
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should i bring bombs and stuff

chilly sluice
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yeah, and the grubzooka

forest salmon
chilly sluice
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yep, as far as you can

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since its gonna be massive

forest salmon
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you dont get mining xp from using bombs and grubzooka, right?

pale sandal
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That's right. Sadly.

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So I have a whole boss-box of Paintable Floor now

chilly sluice
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yeah :/

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ooooooooo

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:]]

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waiting to see if the new update will allow me to join the server 🤞 hopefully

pale sandal
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It took forever to make. Bright side, I had the macro still saved from mining exp grinding, so I didn't actually sit there the entire time.

chilly sluice
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my only other option is tryin a VPN

forest salmon
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Are you able to pin messages?

chilly sluice
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i am not no sadly, we could always make our own discord server if we felt it was needed

chilly sluice
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IT WORKED

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I CAN JOIN THE SERVER WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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f i n a l l y

green shard
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I can pin, but I think a dedicated discord is a better option, since that would allow us to have a place for the code that's only public to "contributors"

green shard
chilly sluice
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yeah, i can make one n invite all of yall

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seen all the work yall have done with clearing land, great job!

green shard
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Will probably get on in a bit and donate some grubzookas

chilly sluice
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👍 very nice

green shard
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Donated 15 grubzookas and 4 portals

bold warren
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i joined last night and started breaking stuf but the lag got to bad and i left

green shard
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I have no lag. So that might be the issue with my server being in germany

green shard
pale sandal
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I'll air drop some bombs for cleaning out the Clay Caves when I get the chance.

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Finally, a use for all that orange slime.

green shard
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Someone will have to pickup all the drops and dig up all the slime 😬

pale sandal
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Speed armor and magnetic rings it is.

green shard
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spawn grounds will be the most fun to remove. But at least I've gotten 2 figurines today

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I'll put them in a chest at spawn

pale sandal
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squint

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green shard
green shard
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No more spawn tiles and inner biome is completely uncovered

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green shard
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If you need the invite to the racing discord, lemme know. Don't want to post it publicly for now

boreal inlet
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@green shard I'd like an invite since I'll be doing some testing with game mechanic implementations

chilly sluice
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sent you an invite

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anyone else wanting an invite can message me for it as well

forest salmon
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I got an insane idea

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so, there are 2 top cars

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What if we would allow people to choose between them, depending on a track?

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So, for example, Im sure in my drifting abilities, and I will take speeder, even though track is very curvy

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or, if im unsure im my overall driving abilities, i'd rather take something more mobile?

chilly sluice
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we would have different race types, with diff carts. Fast carts and harder turns, medium carts and wider turns, or whatever is desired, mix and match

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the slow carts can then be used for decor and sight seeing

forest salmon
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What I meant is giving players some agency

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in cart picking

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We need to test that, of course

chilly sluice
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so like, fast and medium carts running on the same track?

forest salmon
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yes

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Since if a "speeder" cart user will hit a wall because he didnt manage to turn, the medium cart user with better mobility might go ahead

chilly sluice
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alright, i mean sure, who ever wants to use any cart can

dusk pier
green shard
dusk pier
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Or just a port forwarded ip?

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Not using steams relay server that the current dedicated servers use

green shard