#Please remove Add-On Skill menu and Tech Arts Customization Menu at the Class Counter.

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neat viper
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well

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not at all

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bc you use your own class still

frozen anchor
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but i do hope

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it gets improved n shit

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cos idk

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ngs is actually stepping up their game now, and it's noticeable

neat viper
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I'll give it a once over for a good few weeks bc like

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I don't like being disingenuous with criticism

gilded latch
neat viper
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No

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it's not like MARS

frozen anchor
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mars was great

neat viper
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it is Subclass 2

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MARS was great too tbh

frozen anchor
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if EX is as well designed as mars itll be a lot of fun

neat viper
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I actually enjoyed it a lot

frozen anchor
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my only issue with mars really is

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they kept nidhoggr weak

neat viper
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EX Styles though function as a second subclass

frozen anchor
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and relegated to only being good on field bosses

neat viper
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so they're not like MARS really

frozen anchor
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which sucks to me

neat viper
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which is its own thing

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EX Styles influence how you play, MARS is how you play

frozen anchor
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its like id love to use nidhoggr on vael

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but its garbage

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very sad times

neat viper
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god yeah

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it'd be nice bc of how it works

gilded latch
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Do EX Styles have a cooldown or are actually subclasses?

neat viper
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esp if it kept the weakness at full power

frozen anchor
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i wish theyd balanced the different marses better overall

neat viper
frozen anchor
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but even so, its a fun system

neat viper
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functionally

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EX Styles are a 2nd subclass

frozen anchor
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and im very glad they added it and havent let it languish

neat viper
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you equip it

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and that's that

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you get the passives and skills it offers

gilded latch
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Like you pick in the class selection menu?

neat viper
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and you level it up

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yuh

frozen anchor
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well yes and no, do we actually know that much detail dorothy

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cos like it did seem like it gave us some unique active skills too?

neat viper
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in the interview

frozen anchor
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we saw a few things that dont yet exist in any class's kit lol

neat viper
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and with the clip in the Headline

frozen anchor
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like pso2 barants

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and that sword slash turning into an arrow rain

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etc

neat viper
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it is going to be a bundle of passive and active skills

frozen anchor
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my poor subpalette

neat viper
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yeah lol

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same

frozen anchor
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tho tbh

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at that point given the games trajectory

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i can just ditch talis entirely bc its long dead

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that gives me 2 free spots

neat viper
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yeah same

frozen anchor
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as well as 1 free spot on every weapon palette too

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so total of like 6 bonus spots for me

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and i only use 4 weapon palettes

neat viper
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but yeah this is also funny Aurora bc like

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when we do solos

frozen anchor
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so i have another 12 slots theoretically

neat viper
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we'll have to start going

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Fo/Te/Ex

frozen anchor
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Fo/Te/Et

neat viper
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yeah lol

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funny af

frozen anchor
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i mean

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i already have done this

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on videos where mars plays a really big role

gilded latch
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I'm going to assume that EX Style is just going to be M.A.R.S. 2.0 until it actually releases, and if it actually exceeds my expectations than it will be one of the few GOOD THINGS that came out of Ver.2

frozen anchor
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i do Fo/Te/Hydra

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etc

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like my dalion solo

neat viper
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yeah

frozen anchor
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was completely not possible without insane hydra performance

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so i made it Fo/Te/Hydra

gilded latch
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Because Ver.2 has not exactly impressed me...

neat viper
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I'd mention MARS if I did a MARS run

frozen anchor
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i give credit where its due XD

neat viper
static marsh
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Because the game is not really for you

neat viper
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gonna be real

frozen anchor
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tho i didnt for my mdfs but its just cos i forgot at the time

neat viper
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if you don't like this

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now

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you won't like this

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months from now either

gilded latch
neat viper
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it's just that

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a fallacy

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so you ignore it

static marsh
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Even if I spend money on a game

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I can walk away from it

frozen anchor
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but for example my very first video thumbnail

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neat viper
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I'll be throwing down so much money in August for the Touhou collab btw

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like

static marsh
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I spent 3k over time on one game and don't play it anymore

neat viper
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easily £500-600

frozen anchor
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i feel like ive improved a bit on graphic design since then, at least

neat viper
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and I could quit in September

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no issues

frozen anchor
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marginally

neat viper
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also Aurora

frozen anchor
neat viper
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if you want any Touhou shit

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lmk

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bc

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I will have a lot

frozen anchor
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wat

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whens touhou anyway

neat viper
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August

frozen anchor
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wasnt it like august

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ye

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idk we'll see what it has

neat viper
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probably will get Reimu's Gohei

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as a rod camo

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which I fw

frozen anchor
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also ive returned to being blonde bunny

neat viper
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funny rod

we-joke-about-reimus-gohei-getting-bigger-but-its-actually-v0-gv64l79p29ub1.png
frozen anchor
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but like

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definitely upgraded

neat viper
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I think it looks pretty good

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yeah

gilded latch
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I don't think I want to go down the Touhou rabbit hole, because all I know is that is a bullet hell game and that it has a lot fan works...

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That's all i know...

neat viper
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It's a good series

frozen anchor
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pewpew

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but also

neat viper
frozen anchor
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july 2 collab has a cute outfit i want

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probably

neat viper
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I have a fair few fumos

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also same

frozen anchor
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not sure about that neck area but like

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Hm

neat viper
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I need the one with the underboob cut

frozen anchor
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idk which is what but theres 2 versions i think ye

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lemme just

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tho as i said

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unsure bout the top part so idk

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i do have some good innerwears now tho and hm

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prolly some accs

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so i assume therell be like 4 types

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2 underboob, 2 overboob

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and 1 each with and without the arm and leg stuffs?

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idk for sure

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also i want 3 of the vgs

gilded latch
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A lot of my complaints stem from the fact that BEFORE Add-On Skills and Tech Arts Customization were conceived, they had every opportunity to improve the skill tree system but chose not to, and I'm calling those to systems like they are... And yes I DID have to think about it for a bit.

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But if developers want players play the way the developers want players to play, it's going to feel like a punishment if the way the developers want players to play justs, for lack a better phrase, sucks ass.

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Had they gone with their original vision which is let player play how they want to play, yes players would still min-max, that is inevitable for a lot games that use numbers... But you would also get people who don't min-max and try to go for a more balanced but off meta pick as a challange.

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And if the off meta pick cannot clear, then that is where balancing come in.

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Better to buff than to nerf...

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But if the meta picks struggle to clear because the boss has too much HP, THEN is it better to nerf than to buff.

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Usually bad balancing is because of the boss having too much HP EVEN FOR the meta picks...

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or regular enemies having too much HP...

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Especially when time limits are involved...

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Or the boss has bullshit mechanics that tell you "NO! You CAN'T play the game like you and/or the developers WANT you to play!"

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In which case... that is MOSTLY bad game design...

gray parrot
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1,169 (nice) comments later and not a single edit on the original post shockedrappy yea there’s no point in trying to have a convo here- it’s clearly not a discussion and more of a “let me convince everyone I’m right” so…

steep fog
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It kinda shifted towards Gu being bad tbh

celest tundra
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this isnt the first time and wont be the last

vapid brook
gray parrot
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Add-ons imo yea they’re a 1 time thing you forget about once you have it but TACs at least have some variety to them in different techs working for different situations so I wouldn’t necessarily call that a bad thing

vapid brook
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If only TAC could be assigned with loadouts, I would never visit the class counter again. I only ever go there to switch my Fear Eraser and most of the time I'm too lazy to do that.

gray parrot
lilac forge
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Let's be real
The effort and cost it takes to boost your tech arts once in a lifetime by a marginal amount? Could be baked in somewhere for sure. It costs as much as it does to build a whole weapon, limit break, unlock potential

static marsh
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Why are you quoting me?

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@lilac forge

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I was trying not to even come back here after it devolved into other things

lilac forge
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I didn't realize how infinite this thread was

digital tulip
lilac forge
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But it's not really a good idea character-wise to be insulting other people when you disagree people, makes you the little person

static marsh
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That wasn't an insult as it was more so him not realizing what is in an mmo

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Which is grinding

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You came all the way just to quote me

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For that?

lilac forge
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Bro you directly addressed the person and doubted their intelligence for your opinion

static marsh
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Drop it

lilac forge
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You don't have to be here you know that right

static marsh
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Then why do you keep messaging me?

lilac forge
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I'm not the one complaining about continuing here

static marsh
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Let's stop before this gets worse

digital tulip
static marsh
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Because I'm not trying to argue with someone

digital tulip
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Just stop replying back to one another, or block.

lilac forge
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lol makes no sense, get heated over something and refuse to acknowledge a character flaw but still here to fight about it and then "drop it", am I your dog? Shit is pathetic, you don't get to authorize yourself over other people because you disagree or your feelings are involved

static marsh
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Yeah, blocked

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I tried to end it peacefully

lilac forge
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I'm not missing out

static marsh
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Now that the annoyance is out of the way, we should either try to pick up where we left off or just move on

digital tulip
static marsh
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This suggestion wasn't worth it because it was one guy not being used to what an mmo has

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So it's whatever

steep fog
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One thing for sure is they won't remove it for TACs

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But I can see them giving you a new item that just max out TAC

wise snow
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All properly formatted feedback will be submitted and vetted for review. Regardless if you agree on it or not, they are offering a different take on a game feature and there may be even a component of it that may be enjoyable or be spun into a new idea. So please be respectful of other's opinions and avoid using personal attacks.

gray parrot
# digital tulip Can continue the conversation from this... I don't think this suggestion is nec...

Oh nono I just mean
I only really comment on suggestions / feedbacks in hopes of helping the OP make / adjust their post to better accommodate everyone’s view / their own view; and to make sure it isn’t something that’s overall more detrimental to the game than not, since a handful of suggestions can sometimes cause more harm than good to the game long term but sometimes those sorts of things aren’t taken into consideration

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Same case as when I suggested removing LRA and possibly replacing it with perfect range (the thing that wires / rifle and tmg has)
Because I rarely heard people talk about it I never knew how much people disliked it but thankfully people voiced their opinion and I was made aware so I could change my suggestion

digital tulip
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No it's all good, I was just continuing the convo from your last point, because everything after that kind of derailed the point at hand.

gray parrot
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Ahhh fair fair sgmkekw

steep fog
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💪 🔫 🔫

frozen anchor
outer sky
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Maglignant Dallion when someone else is Ranger main.