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limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 5:33 PM

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okay so

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@lean patrol regarding this #💬general message

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should it be
destination = 1.2.3.4
or with the port after too?

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it worked without the port

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 5:37 PM

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default port is 19999

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 5:37 PM

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yeah it worked

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i got the node here now

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i ran it as a docker container, if i want to run it directly with the script

wget -O /tmp/netdata-kickstart.sh https://my-netdata.io/kickstart.sh && sh /tmp/netdata-kickstart.sh

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 5:38 PM

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good, it is pretty easy in fact:

create key, enable this key on parent
configure the key and dest IP address on children

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 5:38 PM

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would this script work then?

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 5:38 PM

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lean patrol good, it is pretty easy in fact: - create key, enable this key on parent - con...

yeah

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 5:39 PM

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i don't get the question, the script will try to install ND directly on the host

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 5:39 PM

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yeah, where do i find the stream.conf then?

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and how do i restart it? is it running as a service?

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 5:39 PM

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yes, as a service - systemctl restart netdata

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 5:39 PM

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alright

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lets try that

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found it in /etc/netdata

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now it makes sense for me 🙂

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 5:41 PM

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you go to /etc/netdata/ or /opt/netdata/etc/netdata/ depends on the distro. /etc/netdata if we have native packages for this system (e.g. debian, ubuntu, centos), and /opt/netdata/etc/netdata/ if we don't - static build would be installed.

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 5:41 PM

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the docs made it a little more complicated then it was

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this would not work when its selfhosted or i can't like get into the settings on the dashboard

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@lean patrol

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 5:45 PM

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Almost nothing is configured via UI at the moment, you need to use configuration files for everything. We plan to fix it, but for now only terminal + config files.

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 5:45 PM

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oh alright, if you don't mind do you know how to setup discord alerts?

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to the webhook

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 5:47 PM

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lean patrol Almost nothing is configured via UI at the moment, you need to use configuration...

i guess alerts is not in stream.conf

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 5:47 PM

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no, you need to configure them on the parent instance.

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See https://learn.netdata.cloud/docs/alerting/notifications/agent-dispatched-notifications/discord

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 5:48 PM

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lets check

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 5:52 PM

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lean patrol See https://learn.netdata.cloud/docs/alerting/notifications/agent-dispatched-not...

is DEFAULT_RECIPIENT_DISCORD needed?

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what should that be?

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a channel in discord?

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 5:55 PM

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I guess that should be a Discord channel name

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 5:56 PM

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does this look right?

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 5:57 PM

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lean patrol I guess that should be a Discord channel name

that worked

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do you know what it alerts on? same alerts as on dashboard?

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sorry, when i did docker-compose down and then up all nodes went gone

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that should not happend right?

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 5:59 PM

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what?

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 5:59 PM

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i restarted the parent netdata

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and the childs went missing

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 5:59 PM

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they will reconnect

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 5:59 PM

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oh alright

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just takes some time maybe?

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 6:02 PM

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just in case - make sure you don't delete stream.conf

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 6:03 PM

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lean patrol just in case - make sure you don't delete stream.conf

the stream.conf is there but not connecting

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 6:04 PM

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There is something we are missing, just restart can't result in such problem.

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 6:05 PM

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hmm

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when i installed on a new it connected

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lets try restart docker now

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 6:08 PM

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lean patrol There is something we are missing, just restart can't result in such problem.

it goes missing now too, thats weird

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okay seems to be fixed

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👍

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 6:31 PM

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this is quite easy when you just understand first time

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can i get it so it alerts if any node go offline? @lean patrol

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 6:36 PM

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You can have "Unreachable node" notification if connected to the Netdata cloud. You need just to connect the parent instance.

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 6:37 PM

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lean patrol You can have "Unreachable node" notification if connected to the Netdata cloud. ...

would that add all nodes to the cloud?

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or just one?

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like would all show up or only parent?

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@lean patrol also sorry if i seems stupid but how would the best way be to add it to netdata cloud?

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 6:43 PM

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open the parent dashboard and check top right corner

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sing-in => Connect to netdata

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 6:43 PM

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yeah

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 6:43 PM

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only the parent

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 6:43 PM

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should i run that in netdata vm?

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 6:44 PM

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yes

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 6:44 PM

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woah it worked

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would it not be better to add the discord alerts thru here now instead?

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@lean patrol

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or does it not matter?

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and how do i add Unreachable node notification?

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 6:47 PM

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bottof left corner click on your profile and go to Notifications

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there you configure notifications per space - alerts/unreachable/alerts + uncreachable

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 6:49 PM

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yeah

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done

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 6:50 PM

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well there are 2 options: Netdata parent sends notifications (that is what you did) or ND cloud sends them (less avialable notification methods but we try to add more)

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 6:50 PM

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ND cloud do support discord so that would work

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 7:15 PM

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Worked thanks @lean patrol

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 7:17 PM

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Great! It was fast - from " I am new with netdata" to configuring streaming and connecting to Cloud 😸

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 7:17 PM

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Is there anything else you would do?

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 7:17 PM

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lean patrol Great! It was fast - from " I am new with netdata" to configuring streaming and ...

Yeah xD

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 7:19 PM

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nah just explore Netdata

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 7:20 PM

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Alright

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 7:20 PM

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we recently added system journal plugin, check https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PLUjVXwC4Q

YouTube

Netdata

Monitoring systemd logs with Netdata using the systemd journal Func...

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limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 7:20 PM

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one more question, its not secured with SSL as its local but its connected to cloud. that be fine right?

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 7:20 PM

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but it is not available in Docker now, will be soon

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 7:20 PM

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i am not using docker, i changed

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 7:20 PM

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Netdata-Cloud connection is secure

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 7:21 PM

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it worked much better with restarting without docker

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 7:21 PM

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Netdata-Netdata (streaming) is not without SSL

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 7:21 PM

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lean patrol Netdata-Netdata (streaming) is not without SSL

yeah

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 7:21 PM

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but if that is your local network that not a big problem

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but anyway with SSL is better but it requires additional configuration on both parent and children

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 7:21 PM

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There is not like and secrets 🙂

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 7:22 PM

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lean patrol but anyway with SSL is better but it requires additional configuration on both p...

yeah

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 7:22 PM

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also check Function tab

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 7:22 PM

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alright

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whats that?

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 7:22 PM

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when u connected to the Cloud you can see Top-like table with processes

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for each node

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 7:23 PM

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yeah

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nice

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 7:23 PM

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as i said just explore the UI

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 7:23 PM

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yep

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Are you developer of netdata?

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 7:23 PM

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one of, yes

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 7:23 PM

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nice job

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sorry. one more question, why can I have however many nodes I want with parent child but not direct to cloud? @lean patrol

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 7:27 PM

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can you rephrase?

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 7:27 PM

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ehh

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okay so

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if i want to add nodes to the cloud without doing the parent and child streaming, there is a maximum of 5 active nodes right?

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why can I have ”unlimited” nodes with the parent child streaming?

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 7:28 PM

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i am not sure, need to check. I am working on open-source Agent (https://github.com/netdata/netdata)

limber lynx Oct 23, 2023, 7:28 PM

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ah alright, nevermind just wanted to ask

lean patrol Oct 23, 2023, 7:36 PM

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I see, you are right. Parent-child is open-source Agent only, hence the unlimited number of nodes (but it requires parent/child). Also cloudless setup is limited in the number of features - for instance Functions don't work. Also we are working on configuring Agents through UI - this will be Cloud only feature too at least in the beginning. ND Cloud doesn't store your data (Agents store it locally), it is mainly for accessing your nodes from any place + additional features (that can't be on Agents because require authentication, etc)

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But I am not the best person to answer such question because I am just one of developer of Netdata Agent. Ask in #💬general about Cloud stuff

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