TW! Taeil removed due to ||Sexual Crimes||

[light kernel]

My head hurts. I did a tarot reading on my channel for Gemini season and I swear he got the most positive, successful cards ever gotten by an idol... Dont know what to believe anymore.
I pulled a few hrs ago more cards and they are all so positive 😳

[faint herald]

Updating some info: I saw a tweet that said the police confirmed no one involved is a minor. It was corrected by someone who initially believed it was so I'm slightly inclined to believe that.

[fathom pumice]

this is what makes these situations tiring. people start spreading misinformation which causes misunderstandings. it makes my brain hurt watching people say stuff when I'm only going to believe the police reports and sm statements

[faint herald]

also, I don't think we should be throwing stones at other members RN either. I saw people bring up Yuta for comments said about weight but maybe we should get a mod or something make a ruling, unless they did and I missed it.

[fathom pumice]

I don't get why people are giving facts on a case they are not involved in

[bold surge]

i keep seeing tweets that the police/prosecutors will make a statement about it tomorrow

[weak forge]

Guys I just saw the news. I am so sorry. I don't even know what to say my heart just jumped out of my chest

[bold surge]

mango responded

[faint herald]

Ty. Two hours is a lot 😭

[bold surge]

and i agree problematic behavior and crimes are two different things entirely

[bold surge]

[faint herald]

Good omg. This is gonna be probably a small scale but still large scandal. A lot of speculations are being made now. Which is what complicated public opinion on B*Sun and Nth Room and the idols involved.

[weak forge]

I want to complain about people giving idols too much leeway but it's not even idols, it's predators in general. I'm making myself mad just thinking about it

[hushed wraith]

Yeah and a lot of times women are blamed for crimes even those that were made against them

I hope the justice system gets him with every charge he deserves and he feels the state of h__ll he deserves

Satan sure as heck has his favorite s—bags that’s for sure I’m sickened

THIS that’s what is making me feel ill the amount of access he’s had to MINORS AND CHILDREN

I said this earlier I want him to face justice for his actions but I also want him to be publicly humiliated out him in a glass box at the Seoul city square or downtown show the people what a monster exists

[cursive raft]

WAIT I JUST SAW SOMETHING MIND BLOWING AND LIKE IT IS LIKE A MEGA HUH MOMENT

[hushed wraith]

And the amount of predators who are in the industry still hidden behind a rug or a painting I pray they all get exposed quickly

[patent bramble]

quick get the medieval stocks

[hushed wraith]

Lemme find em

[weak forge]

I have not had this violent a reaction to news like this since before the Nth room stuff happened. I feel like my head's about to explode trying to keep calm

[hushed wraith]

Matter of fact let the city beat him up and then toss him in a basement cell

Multiply the years of how many years he’s gotten away with this times all the victims then times the charges and sentencing

[patent bramble]

i get 3 punches dibs /lh

I WANT MY MONEY BACK

[hushed wraith]

He should never see the light of day ever again he deserves to rot

And if I was in Korea I’d sign the you know what penalty

[bold surge]

it's extremely heavy stuff. i'm still in shock

i also just realized SM has made a statement but he hasn't

[hushed wraith]

Actually no I stand by him in a cell when he’s old and weak

[patent bramble]

is it bad that i don't care what he says

like i don't want to hear it

[hushed wraith]

I don’t wanna hear a darn thing from him

[bold surge]

i think that's valid

[patent bramble]

there is no excuse you can make, nothing you can say, that will make me even feel a little bit bad.

[bold surge]

but i do think it's telling that there's not a statement from him, unless he gives one tomorrow

[hushed wraith]

If he knows better he would bow down his head and just go to the penitentiary

[modern hound]

Same

[hushed wraith]

Especially you held this so many years

[modern hound]

I don't want to hear ni I'm sorry I disappointed my fans bs

[hushed wraith]

You were the main reason for silencing YOUR victims

And you got famous and money while you had girls and women suffer

[hot silo]

If he doesn’t give one then is it wrong that I hope he rots in guilt?

[hushed wraith]

I wish this tweet was legal let the victims take care of him

Cheaper than a trail

The fact this has a sister

[weak forge]

Sorry I just read the minor part uhhh

[patent bramble]

get her OUTTA THERE

disown him sis pls

[weak forge]

I might have to fly to korea myself to have a word with him at this rate.

[weak forge]

I hope the whole family disowns him

[hushed wraith]

THE FACT HE HAS HAD ACESSS TO KIDS ON KBS I AM ILL!

[weak forge]

Access to kids in SO many ways

[patent bramble]

tbh i was kinda manifesting for him to leave sm bc like ew we hate sm. DUDE I DID NOT MEAN TANK YOUR LIFE REPUTATION AND CAREER ON THE WAY OUT

[cursive raft]

https://tenor.com/view/triples-kaede-nakyoung-kpop-s9-gif-13484754082181945653

[woven wing]

That person needs air in their brain. It's not functioning right

[hushed wraith]

I’m sickened because I’m going to be teaching kindergarten one day and to know my students could face these satan spawn makes me livid

[cursive raft]

yeah I also read it closer amount of time to you

https://tenor.com/view/caedrel-confused-league-of-legends-lec-gif-17627374793839586207

this was my reaction ^^

[weak forge]

Yeah I've got no words for it

[wind saffron]

from what I've seen, the police report might've gotten mistranslated or misunderstood or just anything else that starts with mis

or whatever statement came out about no minors involved

when the victim was quite literally a minor when the crime start taking place

[hushed wraith]

And the fact is it isn’t that hard to ASK age or I don’t know maybe ignore some me who looks like a child!?

Like I’ve met some Korean artists and thankfully the first thing is asked a. your age or if they knew/know my age they are super friendly. I don’t understand how simple could exist like this piece of satan

[rain panther]

My apologies, I never meant to compare these 2 scenarios, I only meant it as a reason why I no longer bias Yuta (as a once big Yuta stan) my apologies again for insulting you with this :((((

[wind saffron]

its fine!!

dw about it, a lot of people are going about it the same way you did so you probably didn't realize what you're saying is just

yk

[rain panther]

I'm personally fine with y'all liking Yuta and I'm in no way not trying to compare these 2 scenarios they are in, please understand I only mean it with care and respect that the reason why I decided to not bias Yuta was cause of that

[wind saffron]

at the end of rhe day its ur opinion and u had a mishap

[rain panther]

But still, I'm sure it does hurt somewhat (both mentally and physically) no matter how many times you endure it and that you deserve to be happy no matter what

[rain panther]

Thanks again for being so understanding regardless of our differences 💞💞💞💞

[wind saffron]

at the end of the day, we're all gonna experience something like this at some point because the people you look up can be deceiving

[rain panther]

True so true 💞💞💞I agree wholeheartedly with this

[wind saffron]

so i feel like yeah, if anybody just needs support im willing to offer it its not an easy thing to go through or process because it's some sense of betrayal that feels a bit foreign and just carries guilt with it

and at rhe same time, we have to keep an eye on our mental health regarding this issue

[light kernel]

Yuta is my bias and I don't know why I have a perception one day I'm going to wake up to s story about him (probably leaving a love motel or something) but I somehow expect it. Hopefully him having a private life and not a crime ofc 😭

[cyan agate]

Like how does SM bg stans handle all of this in general 😭.... I could never

[light kernel]

I'm a baby NCTzen (not baby because I'm 39 years old haha) and I swear in this two years of stanning I didn't have a break

But I love this men, they are so talented. But also first of being a fan I'm a woman, so whatever truth comes out let's face it and hope justice do their part 🙏

[wind saffron]

stanning sm groups is not for the weak

[hushed wraith]

Sorry

Someone somewhere down the line had to know

Someone was complacent enough be it the company people on the company the police the lawyers

[wind saffron]

yeah thats what ive been saying ://

so im hoping there'll be an investigation of sm cus that coverup is just

you're gonna have questions and they're not ones rhat should be left unanswered

[light kernel]

Take care ladies! Sending you love from Argentina 🫶🏻

[hushed wraith]

Cause I’m like it’s been six years why stop this hidin now did they run outta money was there some sort of contact everyone needs to checked into

[cyan agate]

Looks like the staff in sm has been knowing about this for the last month... As t***l Stans were complaining about how they were unfollowing him and not reposting his teasers

[wind saffron]

and the fact none of the members seemed to have known

yes, it's true you can never really know people

but if it's still something that should be checked

[frank helm]

I haven't been on discord for days due to stress, and this what brought me back on. As an NCT stan, I feel disgusted and physically ill right now.

[wind saffron]

don't forget to take some time for yourself, i got a bit dizzy as well because of rhe news so just stepping away and taking a deep breath is important <3

[frank helm]

I literally speechless. And the fact that SM kicked him out so quickly as compared to the Lucas situation makes me feel that there is some truth to this.

[cyan agate]

About this... Did big bang also knew about seungri's activities

?

[still thistle]

I think they were clueless

[wind saffron]

they were clueless but he did do some shady things before the burning sun scandal

so the relationships soured even before then

[cyan agate]

The problem is we don't have any confirmation of the exact crimes he did... So we can't be sure if the other members had correct knowledge about anything

They could have just thought that he had a "gf" and that's it... But this is just pure speculation right now...

[wind saffron]

i think they (127) had at least a general idea rhat what he was doing could've been shady

i mean they pleaded for him to the dorms come back from clubs and partying

but at the same time, he's the oldest member in nct and you never know how things could be behind the scenes

[rain panther]

Yea hopefully just private life stuff

[wind saffron]

in my opinion, it's more than likely at least ONE staff knew

at least one

and back in july, there's more than a dozen who should have known

[rain panther]

True thisss also hiyaaa, hope that you like being a Kpop fan so far :))

[cyan agate]

I mean yeah... They were already unfollowing him by that then

[wind saffron]

just the fact people knew and allowed it to continue

[modern hound]

Oh no my friend said taeil was his main bias

He still dazed about it

[glass portal]

went to sleep and came back and read everything that has happened and just wow, im speechless

truly speechless and disgusted

[cyan agate]

I don't know about that... There also could have been a internal investigation going on about this....

We don't even know exactly what was he continuing... I don't think it's right to blame all the staff who i believe where silently protesting here

[wind saffron]

korea very much so has a culture of "mind your business" and has normalised protecting pr3dators

[shadow notch]

I honestly want to cry for the victims because I know someone who was R***** as a child and I know how much she went through and I feel so bad for whoever the victims are and for what they might have gone through

[wind saffron]

so if there was a silent protest of some sort, sm would've kicked out whoever partook in it and it would've become a whole thing considering how these issues get treated in korea

if you say so even dare think women shouldn't get ||r#ped|| then you'll get jumped by many of the knetz

[quaint yarrow]

Yeah same with Japan… I’m sure you know of the Johnny case. Their mindset is “he’s died so let it go” like…. Hello some of his victims are still alive….

[wind saffron]

thats the reality of korean culture

weither you like it or not, thats how people get treated there for daring to think women have rights

[shadow notch]

If the victims were or not that still doesn't exscuse his actions and one of my closet friends was so I feel an extra sense of sorry for these victims no matter if it was SA or something along those lines

[cyan agate]

I don't think they will kick someone out for unfollowing taeil... At least i expect this level

[wind saffron]

i mean, we're talking about the fact a staff could've known

not about members following or unfollowing each other

later down the line, the whole legal team at sm probably knew

the executives knew

[cyan agate]

Oh I was talking..about the latter

[wind saffron]

the people in power knew

maybe not to the full extent but they knew it was bad enough to shut down the article when they usually refuse to protect their artists

[wind saffron]

oh oops sorry for getting heated ono"

[blissful tiger]

||https://x.com/nishinaia/status/1828795237105537036?t=zH_fuvzoEEeLPmJJVZpk3g&s=19|| WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE ACTING LIKE WE KNEW THAT TAEIL WAS DOING THIS BS

LEGIT WHO IS DEFENDING HIM

[shadow notch]

And like why are SO MANT korean celebrities becoming criminals recently. Like first it was Suga now it's Taeil. Lime when will people learn there lesson and not do horrible things

[wind saffron]

i feel like that's a very valid question to ask and i see it as the way the justice systeme favours those who are rich, powerful and famous

i recently realised how similar korean culture and lebanese culture tends to be when it comes to these things so yeah, it's most likely they have money dont care cus they'll get away with it

[glass portal]

not only that but to compare the two things? hello???

[shadow notch]

I'm just going to wait till the police make more of a statement and explain a few more things before I put more of my personal opinion into this conversation but if all of those allegations on what he did turn out the be true I honestly don't know how I will feel or be able to comprehend it

[cyan agate]

Honey it's everywhere

[blissful tiger]

Karina apologizes because her own fans didn't like her bf. TAEIL DOESNT APOLOGIZE BUT WE SAYING HE NEEDS JAIL NOW THE HELL

[wind saffron]

its more obvious in some places than others

[quaint yarrow]

No literally it’s crazy how Johnny Kitagwa is so loved in Japan even though he had previous charges of ||gromming|| and continued to so till his death…. It’s insane…

[wind saffron]

and it just destroys the concept of justice

[bold surge]

i could be wrong but maybe their point was SM possibly knew for a bit and tried to hide it whereas Karina had to apologize for something that's just part of the human experience. so pointing to the double standard that's present in the industry

[wind saffron]

and i can assure you that i know exactly what it's like to feel like the police and institutions put in pace to protect you are actually just there for show

[plush salmon]

I’m literally gonna smash my head against the wall this world is a dumpster fire

[wind saffron]

it's everywbere but when it's obvious, it's obvious because in some countries they try to do something about it

but it's not normal for there to be news of the same crimes being committed every week by the same people

[blissful tiger]

Perhaps but I don't think this needs to be a gg groups VS bg groups situation. It's so tone deaf

[shadow notch]

A part of me wants to believe that this is all a bad dream and wake up in the morning and everything is fine again. Like a part of me wants to believe this isn't true and is just a sick joke. But I honestly feel like pucking because of how disgusting this is

[wind saffron]

and when we get to the point where everyday you'll hear of a new nth room participant arrested, you'll wonder what went wrong and you realize that oh- it was always weong to begin with

[cyan agate]

I mean just go through the entertainment industry of any country... It will repeat every time...

[bold surge]

true i def agree with that part

[wind saffron]

it's not just a matter of ent industry, it's a matter of culture ethics and ideologies

[solemn trail]

@wind saffron has leveled up! (49 ➜ 50)

[quaint yarrow]

Especially when Seunghan apologized for living a normal life. So it’s not a good double standard example.

[wind saffron]

whatever he says won't help him

[blissful tiger]

People are bringing up him too and honestly I don't think any idol should we compared in this situation

[wind saffron]

i think its fine if you expect him to say something but realistically speaking, he's dug himself his own grave

[bold surge]

i think that's why he hasn't made a statement yet and why we might not get one (not that getting one would make a difference)

[glass portal]

it’s mind boggling, it’s so strange to compare the two things when one is a literal crime and one was someone simply being in a relationship.

[cyan agate]

Yeah... The one with influence and money always gets to leave scot free...while the rest of us have to suffer

[plush salmon]

But we must not give into nihilism or else the world will never become a better place

[wind saffron]

the most he can do is lawyer up

[wind saffron]

reject humanity, thats the answer /JOKE

[agile flicker]

Someone said that he got injured because the grandfather of his victim kicked him
I’m not sure whether to believe it

[agile flicker]

Is that even going to save him 💀

[frank helm]

The crazy thing is, i was having a conversation with my cousin a few weeks prior (i think we were talking about hyuna and how she still has supporters) and was saying how we have to be so careful not to get so attached to kpop artists that you are willing overlook their crimes. it seems im being tested on that statement i made

[wind saffron]

nah but it'll be smth to watch him try

[glass portal]

definitely not, he’s f’ed

[plush salmon]

We need to keep fighting for everyone’s rights, fighting for victims, fighting for freedom for all, we need to keep fighting or the world will keep on burning

[bold surge]

taeil's injury was a very bad break. definitely more than a kick.

[wind saffron]

i hope thats what happened

[agile flicker]

Yeah I’d agree with that

[wind saffron]

we need to stand together as a community for once and stop being at each other's throats all the time

[agile flicker]

Oh heck

Mb I got censored

[bold surge]

it's ok!

[agile flicker]

A criminal is a criminal regardless

[quaint yarrow]

It’s literally just hypocrisy at this point. Crap on one creep while defending another creep. The math ain’t mathing.

[faint herald]

They knew the people around him were shady but I don't know if they knew exactly how. Probably around the rumor mill and not exactly how but they did tell him they were shady. Past that, it was all on him.

[bold surge]

[cyan agate]

I can't believe someone got to know about this through roblox😭

[wind saffron]

if it can lighten the mood, s*ungri annouced he was going to cure some terminal illness (i think a form of cancer) at a concert so gdragon gave him the nastiest side eye

[frank helm]

this, and i feel that this will always be an issue because of the mindset that some fans have

[glass portal]

i just hope the victim can truly get the justice they deserve. i can’t understand why people who get caught with ||drvgs|| can get up to 10+ years but an ||@$$ault3r|| can get a slap on the hand and let back into society. it’s shocking

[frank helm]

thats insanity

[wind saffron]

some people do lie but it's only a small percentage when you compare it to actual victims, and i think that mindset is mostly to be blamed on sasaengs

[agile flicker]

The Korean government when Park Bom brought medication into Korea with very low amphetamine levels: 🤬
The Korean government when people commit heinous crimes: 🙉🙈

[shadow notch]

I was just looking on Yutas and Henderys Instagram and under both of their recent posts people are demanding that they unfollow Taeil because they are the only 2 members that haven't yet

[bold surge]

that's silly they need to leave them alone. and besides, an unfollow doesn't mean much. we don't know who's supporting him offline

[faint herald]

We have to remember that We don't know if they can access their accounts rn.

[frank helm]

I agree, and the people who lie only cause more suffering for the actual victims, because if one person lies then in some other unintelligent people's minds, they are all liars. It's beyond upsetting

[shadow notch]

Exactly

[cyan agate]

This makes me so angry about south korea....

Do they want a "nirbhaya" to happen...

[frank helm]

this, and people literally seem to forget that the company pretty much has control over what they do and don't put on all their public socials (at least to a certain degree right?). like bri said, you don't know who is or isn't supporting who

[warm sonnet]

In the middle of this, i hope you all get a good night rest & stay healthy.💗🫶🏻

[frank helm]

thank you so much and I wish you the same💗

[frank helm]

btw I feel like i should know this so im sorry if i'm asking a silly question, but what is nirbhaya?

[patent bramble]

yeah I was gonna ask the same thing

[cyan agate]

Oh sorry for my usage of region locked terms...
It was an heinous crime against a woman in 2011 in Delhi that lead to the biggest protest against women safety in india

[patent bramble]

ohhh

[shadow notch]

I'm probably going to be staying away from this thread for a bit because my stomach can not handle this. But if there is any update I will come back or until my stomach is able to handle this

[cyan agate]

That lead to further changes in law... And it worked to giving these people capital punishment....

[frank helm]

this is sort of already beginning in south korea right? i heard that are women refusing to date men and things like that

but this is only something i've heard of, so take it with a grain of salt

[glass portal]

don’t forget to take care of yourself and be sure to eat, drink water, and rest well! we are here for support if you need it and this goes for anyone else as well. it’s okay to step away for a bit as this can be an extremely difficult thing

[glass portal]

i looked it up and wow, just wow… i’m truly shocked and disgusted ||(if those look it up, please know it is a VERY dark topic and can be extremely triggering)||

since i know curiosity/wanting to know about it can get the best of people as it did with me

[frank helm]

i can't imagine how the members feel. like this is horrible no matter what angle you look at it from, but i cannot even fathom how hard this must be for them

[cyan agate]

I'm sorry for not warning you beforehand... I should have said about it sooner

Making sure to use trigger warning in the future

[glass portal]

no worries! i’m glad i looked it up so i can see how it can be an extremely sensitive topic for others which is why i left the small warning on it

[wind saffron]

there's actually been a few cases of ||s3xual violence|| in korea who've caused outrage in the whole country but it was never enough to establish laws to actually punish perpetrators

[frank helm]

i wonder how much outrage it will take to bring real change

[wind saffron]

only god will know when you've got the miryang case being.. a thing that happened

if anybody wants to learn about more of these cases, i suggest stephanie soo's rotten mango but i cant stress enough the tws

but yeah, like I've been saying it's really a culture problem in Korea that's led to this and there's no way to know when they'll finally put laws in place to protect people for once from these crimes

[hot silo]

its sad how much women in many countries cant get the proper justice they deserve whenever theyre harmed or sensing danger

[wind saffron]

it goes to say that almost all asian countries suffer from this problem of normalizing @buse and letting it integrate the culture

[wind saffron]

and sometimes, it's so obvious that it's outrageous

it's everywhere and it's not a competition but in some countries, you just gotta pause and go like >no way this is real

[frank helm]

there so much wrong with their entire justice system in general, and i wonder if they'll only be satisfied when the country is flipped upside down

[hot silo]

yea esp using the idea that women are inferior to men and should do their bidding, traditional gender roles cannot justify the fact that a HUMAN is harmed by another human in the most gruesome ways

[wind saffron]

revolution, french style

or arab spring style where we all just go like >yeah im not dealing with this anymore

[wind saffron]

it's just.. a very complex discussion to be held but it's also just- why taeil thought he could get away with this for the past 6 years lol

cus everybody does if you're sneaky about it enough

[frank helm]

and just to let yall know im definitely not putting the country i live in on a pedestal, america is a hot mess

[patent bramble]

exactly

[cyan agate]

I will also put forward this video by Stephanie soo... As we are still fighting for better conditions right now in my country as a med student.... and the fact that video got banned in my country

TW: Related to $ë% crimes and *urder...
||https://youtu.be/sCB7capwqKE?si=6lDRwBzSS0fgwEJB||

[wind saffron]

ye me neither, the reason im so heated over this is bc of how similar korean culture is to lebanese culture in terms of these issues lol

and I'll admit there's a bit of projecting on my part that something will be done about this for once

[hot silo]

i think i heard of this

[patent bramble]

well… uh… f the patriarchy

[hot silo]

this was a recent incident right?

[patent bramble]

yeah it’s pretty recent

[hot silo]

yeaa i heard about from my dad :( it was really sad to hear :((

[patent bramble]

it was

[frank helm]

then we are the projecting twins because im hoping for the same

[patent bramble]

I hope this changes things. Like everywhere

Idk I don’t think it’s to much to ask to feel safe

[wind saffron]

if the justice systeme won't do it's job then Allah will cus seriously, i have no faith in it

[glass portal]

heavy on this

people shouldn’t live in fear

[patent bramble]

I’ve been lucky and nothings ever happened to me, and I hope nothing does. But still

[wind saffron]

its a basic human right thats basically stripped away from marginalized community

[patent bramble]

LITERALLY

[glass portal]

or to even think of the “what if”, it’s scary and something no one should ever go through or think of the possibility of it ever occurring

[patent bramble]

yeah

[frank helm]

My mom says that the people who harm and oppress others start getting their punishment from Allah before they leave this world, imo i can only have faith in Allah cause at the end of the day humans are failing when it come justice. And the actual good people almost never get to be in the positions of government they should be in

[wind saffron]

he's already lost his career so even if he won't face jail time, at least his reputation would have gotten tarnished

anyways, all we can hope is for the police to do their job for once, for the prosecution to do their job, and for judge to do their job for once

[cyan agate]

And hope women there use this to keep fighting for their rights and the men to think twice to even try following this path

[void oracle]

i found out abt this at school today and i was so in shock but now tgat im home its really hitting me like omg that man is a monster

i ulted him for like 3 years

this really made me realize like this is all an act we do not know these ppl

imagine how many other idols have done things as terrible as this and no one knows about it

its genuinely so horrifying

[modern hound]

Is it weird that after today news Im literally losing interest in bg

Cuz Half of the bad news it's always the male

Make me question my male biases and it's making me lowkey icky

[daring socket]

Know that it’s ok to take a step back from bgs or kpop in general

I know a few moots who are doing so, taking a step back from kpop for a while due to this

[faint haven]

EXCUSE ME???

WHAR

WHAT

[wind saffron]

this has to be rage bait there's no way this is real omg

[faint haven]

This better be rage bait

Istg

[modern hound]

Gurl what 💀💀💀💀

[wind saffron]

also just saw this and wanted to drop it here before i go to sleep ;
its very likely neos didnt even know taeil was gonna get kicked out considering how they've said on a few occasions that they get most informations (ex comebacks) from the internet, not from sm

[glass portal]

it has to be rage bait, this is insanity

[bold surge]

...

https://tenor.com/view/choerrylixzb1-choerrylixzb-zb1-zerobaseone-jiwoong-gif-14340741184777656238

[dull willow]

finding out taeil of all people did something like this was not something on my 2024 bingo card, but it just goes to show how little we know idols behind the scenes

so sad, my heart goes out to the victim

[hushed wraith]

What the heck are they snortin!?

[patent bramble]

ok and this is exactly what we are not going to do. Not demure. Not mindful.

[frank helm]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-done-cut-the-show-take-me-off-i-quit-sick-of-it-gif-7272579336762426991

no like im actually done cause this is the delusion i was afraid of

[patent bramble]

no literally

legit everyone I’m seeing on Twitter has been condemning him. As they should. But ofc there’s gonna be those people

[shrewd cloak]

wth

[patent bramble]

the “mY OPpAr wOuLd NEVeR dO aNytHiNg wRoNg” people

[frank helm]

there's always someone whos going to be not using their critical thinking

or not thinking at all

[modern hound]

[patent bramble]

we were given big brains. Let’s use them please.

[bold surge]

help

[frank helm]

my mom says that common sense aint common and she's right yet again

[patent bramble]

something strong. Keep it away from me

[bold surge]

mom is 100% right

[patent bramble]

mom spoke facts

[modern hound]

Public announcement:
For the time being i will be taking a step back from being a fan of boy groups 😔

[patent bramble]

so valid

[frank helm]

she has literally been telling me for years not to be too into celebrities and movie stars cause you never know who they really are, or what happens behind the scenes. even though she doesen't really know kpop, she hit the bullseye a long time ago

[patent bramble]

literally

[daring socket]

Yeah I saw that account earlier, they are a troll or something cause they never mentioned taeil or nct until this situation.

Block and report them

[frank helm]

yupp

[daring socket]

And yeah my mom was the same way when I told her about this.

[modern hound]

My friend told me this!

[frank helm]

and its so true, and deep down i knew she was right which is what led me to really cut back on a lot of things. i used to be kind of a multistan, but then i just cut back to only nct and then this happens

btw im not blaming any of the other members, as there's a lot we don't know

[daring socket]

Yeah

[round creek]

Yeah, SM has never reacted this fast to any allegations, even with Lucas, he was kept hidden for a couple months before being removed from the group

Oh..

[frank helm]

more than a couple of months, and they dragged it out for as long as they could before finally removing him from the group, and even then they let him start his solo career. on the other, sm not only came out with a statement first before things really blew up, but they practically flung taeil out on his face, which i find to be telling but we'll see how the case turns out

btw, i heard that SM had been covering this up since July, does anyone know if its true?

[round creek]

Yeah, you're right about that, I genuinely believe that the rumours are true for SM to have removed him that quick

[round creek]

Yepe, there's an article above a couple chats that supports that statement

[glass portal]

||https://x.com/rize07addict/status/1828768641480806484?t=OhSOmd91GjNuZRHt24ORLA&s=19|| from here

[daring socket]

People are going so far as to impersonate and make hundreds of similar accounts to the Agnes account that posted about him to where people are finding it hard to find the real person

https://x.com/hotisyu/status/1828834154823417898?s=46&t=r_Qpa2wXhIH4MOi8RUAikA

alma (@hotisyu) on X

and why the hell are we doing this

Twitter · Aug 28, 2024, 4:36 PM

[formal whale]

that’s really gross

[odd lodge]

made a playlist to burn my taeil merch to 🥰
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2Du6sLmntYqYX7So5OOnsR?si=eXMv5YwTSCSCBLF08Vo4Vg

feel free to use

[daring socket]

I edited my nct page to not include him now

I just gotta print it

[frank helm]

this is such depraved behavior.....

[hushed wraith]

Imagine being so obsessed and delusional to do this

[cursive raft]

add bultaoreunae

iyk what song that is, ofc

[onyx kernel]

all the members of nct have unfollowed taeil

[formal whale]

speaking of unfollowing tale, I went to his insta to look through comments on recent posts to see how people were reacting (they're cooking him btw) and I found something..interesting?

take these with a grain of salt bc who knows if this account is legit or not but it seems like he had a partner(?) who found about what he's been doing the same way everyone else did

[bold surge]

ok so the globalmyeon twt account deleted their tweet stating that one of the victims was an 11 year old girl

https://vxtwitter.com/globalmyeon/status/1828825479228629288

but the rest of the post is still up ||https://vxtwitter.com/globalmyeon/status/1828825473973154256||

[onyx kernel]

i have no words bri im so disgusted

https://x.com/kchartsmaster/status/1828953792571736528

Kpop Charts (@kchartsmaster) on X

A representative from Seoul Bangbae Police Station states that TAEIL was booked for sexual offense in June this year and that the investigation is ongoing ever since.

https://t.co/ydTsgtezG3

Twitter · Aug 29, 2024, 12:32 AM

[bold surge]

wow....

[plush salmon]

This has truly been a whirlwind of a day I am so disgusted…

[polar ruin]

SM has become even more shady cause how tf they didn't drop him or at least put him on hiatus as soon as the investigation started

And the fact that they were having articles taken down

[patent bramble]

bruh

[bold surge]

||https://vxtwitter.com/atouchbase/status/1828967974331617341||

[weak forge]

knew since June but kicked him out now so some hard evidence probably came to light that brought it to the point where SM couldn't rug sweep anymore. They should have suspended him from the jump I cannot fathom even considering keeping him in activities while this was being investigated

[polar ruin]

They should've put him on hiatus as soon as the investigation started

[red cairn]

If Taeil was booked for this offence all the way back in June, the fact that all the Neos are only unfollowing him now that the news is out feels disappointing to me. Like obviously it would have raised questions if they started unfollowing and deleting posts with him in it out of no where but I feel like if this tweet is true the chances of them having known for a while increases substantially

[frail zenith]

https://x.com/9597jaeyong/status/1828998651961921910

ً. (@9597jaeyong) on X

The reason why Taeil still managed to attend fanmeets, make a comeback is because SM wasn’t aware that Taeil is being investigated. They all found out Mid-August and pulled him out of the group. He was investigated by the police yesterday.

https://t.co/aLIjFIRCY2

Twitter · Aug 29, 2024, 3:30 AM

https://fixvtwitter.com/127CENTRAL/status/1829001052177477658

[orchid bear]

What the

[orchid bear]

This is crazyyyyy

[odd lodge]

along with what was just sent by ashley, I feel like SM totally would've prevented them from unfollowing way earlier

[frail zenith]

https://twitter.com/atouchbase/status/1828998025685151890

오락님 (@atouchbase) on X

the 1st police investigation took place on 8/2

Twitter · Aug 29, 2024, 3:28 AM

[odd lodge]

not to mention half of nct probably don't even talk to him on a regular basis, they probably wouldn't have known

i don't wanna be the "man defender" in a situation like this but from a fan standpoint i wanna try to defend the rest of NCT to the greatest extent i can since they had nothing to do with this (from what we know) 🥲 esp when they're under a crappy company like SM

[frail zenith]

this was right before the fanmeeting

so he was playing in front of sm and the members faces

[patent bramble]

bruh

[patent bramble]

exactly. it's quite easy for someone to hide things, even from people that they talk to on a normal basis.

[odd lodge]

yeah totally

that's so gross

successfully disposed of all my taeil merch btw

it was therapeutic

[patent bramble]

excellent

i just shoved mine into an old invisalign box (now known as the box of shame) and shoved it under my bed

[orchid bear]

This whole situation is just so sad and gross

[polar ruin]

Okay i am very glad to know everything happened recently cause I honestly was feeling sick with the idea that SM knew and was just covering it up. This also does make the other members look more innocent in not knowing. Obviously we dunno for sure but it lessens the chance they knew before

Idk if I should have hope but part of me does lol

[odd lodge]

i dont care if i should or shouldnt or if it's wrong of me but I'm holding onto hope and standing by the other members

at least for now

[cyan agate]

This is really making me hard to listen any form of k-pop right now... I'm just revolving around my English artists right now...

[cyan agate]

How the hell he was keeping a straight face towards their fans... Does the guy has no shame or what?

[daring socket]

Again I wanna say it’s valid to not want to be in the kpop world or listen to kpop. Take care of your own mental health.

[stoic pecan]

https://x.com/markyourhaert/status/1829038251728076845?s=46

lyn ♡ 🐯ྀི 🐻ྀི (@markyourhaert) on X

Bangbae Police have already said that if they reveal the progress of the case, it will also reveal the identity of the victim, so they will NOT reveal any information. Please don’t speculate by yourselves who this victim may be from ig/twt posts. It’s harmful to her case.

Twitter · Aug 29, 2024, 6:07 AM

[vale reef]

They could have just not reveal any details with the victim tho

[faint herald]

SK is very heavy with not revealing information that might expose victims. Everytime they do, the victims tends to get blamed or even more fake accounts show up and start bullying the victims.

Or if the victim told a friend, sometimes the friends go to the media. Sadly. And the info the police gave helps corroborate it.

And I don't mean go to the media to get help but rather to get fame or have their name out there

SORRY THAT IS SO CONFUSING WHAT I'M SAYING IS... Police release information about the crime. Victim confided in someone. Someone could be more upset at the friend or expose the friends name to the public. It could have been someone else and not the same victim. Or. Someone could just have a friend who the same thing happened to and then the police have to risk the person's safety because the matter got out of control.

[verbal star]

Hello! I joined the server back during the Lucas hiatus so that I could get news on his situation faster but I've practically been 100% inactive here,,, but decided to become active in order to hopefully see news on Taeils case faster

I'm currently staying neutral and I am assuming a innocent until proven guilty stance since that is his human right according to the UN decleration of human rights but I am also not claiming that it would be impossible for him to have committed this crime (how severe the crime is we don't yet know outside of speculation / claims from unverified sources and persons)

I know that the news and accusations came out very suddenly and I am sending condolences and well wishes to everyone else here for any stress, anxiety, depression, disappointment, and disqust this situation has caused 🫂

[bold surge]

The wording in the tweet is a bit iffy. From what I understand the victim filed a report in June. The police started investigating in the beginning of this month and SM and Taeil were made aware of the complaint by the middle of August. Then Taeil was investigated/brought in for questioning yesterday. I think that’s when SM was made aware of how serious things were/how much evidence the police had gathered, and decided to cut him from the group

What I’m saying is, I don’t think the neos knew about anything until this month when things started going down

[tame minnow]

Yeah I didn’t -

[bold surge]

By neos I don’t mean the fans, I mean the members of NCT

[tame minnow]

O okay

Well I just didn’t know about any of this

[bold surge]

Yeah none of this info came out until yesterday

[tame minnow]

Right

[quartz shoal]

My biggest flex is I never had any Taeil merch to begin with thank you mark for being the only member I seem to pull in nct albums

There is a much misinformation being spread that I can’t trust anything I read except for what the police say

[bold surge]

i can post some articles but they'lll be in korean

[blissful tiger]

i agree. many people are missing out the info that sm and nct were only made aware this month. thats why he was able to do activities

[bold surge]

this talks about how the victim filed the report in June https://v.daum.net/v/20240829092604760?fbclid=IwY2xjawE9QOVleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHTlGGV9qz7A_LK5Uwre5MGNp8dhSGzCPIspmNgdMyKI_KeKmGvC2q_knqg_aem_qpleL0pPn_7VvqLGZFgqFQ

[blissful tiger]

guys is the victim a minor because people are saying different things

[bold surge]

this talks about SM finding out about everything mid-august https://v.daum.net/v/20240829122403763?fbclid=IwY2xjawE9QTFleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHTEqjZOXBgIPqJakgJhEag7fKxjpmOAvrM_KH4spt4Cz8KOe81NEk8ylAg_aem_1QkSTGOBzyCQweru7zZG9Q

[bold surge]

the police confirmed today that victim A is an adult woman

[blissful tiger]

ohh okay thank you bri

[blissful tiger]

so we are unsure that the rumors about him hacking into her phone and threatening her are legit? its still unknown what he actually did?

[bold surge]

that is what the insta/twitter user who accused Taeil said but we don't know. the police said that they're not revealing the progress of the case or details about the crime in order to protect the case and the victim, so it's up in the air at the moment

[blissful tiger]

ty

[bold surge]

ofc!!

[blissful tiger]

[stoic pecan]

Police report said adult woman

[bold surge]

[blissful tiger]

i don't see people wanting to support the full group after this. if they disband, won't be surprised

[bold surge]

all we know is that it's a ||sex offense||. some articles i've read in korean have said ||sexual assault|| but i'm not sure if it's a wonky translation

[bold surge]

tbh, i wouldn't be suprised either

i think it might be one of those things where they come at a crossroads and all of the members will have to talk about it and decide

not sure where they're at contract-wise so we'll see

and i'm mostly talking about 127 specifically

if they do decide to disband, i think most of them will be able to have solo careers

and then mark and haechan will be in dream so

[blissful tiger]

yes i don't think dream, wish and wayv will be as impacted

[bold surge]

i agree

[blissful tiger]

i told joana that yeah.

taeyong is having quite the enlistment

[bold surge]

POOR BUBU

he's endured so much as a leader i feel for him

[blissful tiger]

him and doyoung unfollowing everyone really makes me wonder

what is gonna happen

[blissful tiger]

[bold surge]

me too

i woke up and i was thinking about it and i was just like damn, this is so sad

i really hope the victim gets justice

and i'm also thinking about how betrayed the neos must be feeling

[blissful tiger]

i hope there isn't more. and that she has a good support system around her. korean law isn't the kindest to women

[bold surge]

[verbal star]

Yeah if true I really hope the accuser can get all the love, support, and therapy they need to try to recover from whatever crime Taeil might have comitted against her

[woven wing]

That guy deserves a award of the leader of kpop

[woven wing]

Wait they unfollowed everyone? Every member?

[blissful tiger]

yup

their following list is at 0

[woven wing]

I didnt know that....

Let me curse at a wall

[blissful tiger]

yeah : ((

[woven wing]

I hope they get the justice and the support they need to go on with their lives

[vale reef]

Even Jungwoo's following list is now at 0

[bold surge]

damn...

[woven wing]

I try to remind myself that they might not have the full control over their social media and maybe they are doing this so rumours or misinformation wont be spread

[bold surge]

yeah, it could be a PR thing

[vale reef]

I think out of everyone, Taeyong has or had the full control over his because he did call SM for the whole SB thing on IG.

[woven wing]

I always admired him because he stand for his convictions and isnt afraid to show how he feels about certain stuff

[bold surge]

he deleted the story shortly after though. they all have their own insta accounts but i do think SM has some say about what they post etc

[vale reef]

It is odd to see them unfollow him one by one instead of at the same time. Took the next day for Yuta, Xiaojun and Hendery to do it.

[bold surge]

[vale reef]

Do they also not have full control over bubble?

[woven wing]

Maybe not... They are under sm still.

[vale reef]

Imagine if they're under HYBE tho-

[woven wing]

Once I saw a kdrama about the PR section of a agency (it's a romcom but still) and it showed how a PR team can work under a scandal of a artists and deaking with social media was one of the things

[vale reef]

I think I've watched that drama. Is it Sh**ting Stars?

[woven wing]

Exactly!!!

It made me learn a little bit of how these things process

[vale reef]

Yeah and rn, it's hectic

[bold surge]

i would take all the rumors on tiktok with a grain of salt

especially if there's no source

https://vxtwitter.com/atouchbase/status/1829136349372526777

this account is just speculating but they make a good point because as of now, SM hasn't terminated taeil's contract

i'm not sure if they're waiting for the investigation to progress further to terminate the contract, or if it's about to expire so they're just waiting for it to end on its own

[blissful tiger]

there wasn't any offcial statement to this no? and i saw that it wasn't 200 idols. it was 200 famous men that included not just idols but actors, athletes and so forth.

[faint haven]

Idk I just saw that vid

And my friend told me 200 idols

[quartz shoal]

It’s 200 men some athletes some idols some CEOs and even normal unfamous people too

[woven wing]

Independentely of who is involved, this is still scary as hell. How can 200 men can be involved in this, is so completely messed up

[bold surge]

i think the original nth room case that happened around 2018(?) had like 200,000 people in the telegram chat room

so a list of 200 celebrities involved isn't that surprising

what's going on rn in SK is like a second wave of the nth room incident

[quartz shoal]

Definitely scary as hell cause it just shows that wicked people are in every aspect of the industry

And that you really don’t know these people

[faint herald]

Right now the nth room situation is either 200 people and about 10-30 idols or 200 idols. People keep saying different things so it's getting a bit confusing on that end

[bold surge]

[faint herald]

My gf pointed out it could be SM can't terminate the contract without a penalty to them until he's proven guilty so that's also an option

[bold surge]

I saw something about that too. Them not wanting to potentially have to pay him

[quartz shoal]

Whats worse is I’ve seen people saying “please let x group be involved” so I can stop supporting kpop

[bold surge]

[faint herald]

Everything is so confusing. Even the actual facts bc those are so few.

[woven wing]

https://tenor.com/view/pepeleave-run-away-teboy-gif-24055427

[bold surge]

yes it’s very unsettling because we have no choice but to play the waiting game

[faint herald]

It's really S++ngri and M++ky all over again.

[woven wing]

the worst part is we dont know if we will actual know the full facts

[bold surge]

Exactly!!!

[bold surge]

Yeah we might not ever know details

[faint herald]

I think once prosecution is over we have a better chance of getting a leak.... But that's wishful thinking

[woven wing]

yes exactly

[bold surge]

Yup

Tbh if he’s found guilty that’s all we need to know

but we’ll see what happens

[faint herald]

It took us till this year to see the actual extent of involved S++ngri was in B+Sun like.... It's ridiculous

[bold surge]

[woven wing]

in a couple of years we are gonna see another bbc documentary about this

[faint herald]

Yeah. If he is guilty and serves any jail time it was bigger than we expected. If he's found guilty it's still quite bad

[woven wing]

Even daily mail already spread the news on their Instagram

[quartz shoal]

I was like “maybe you should stop supporting now if that’s your mindset”

[bold surge]

right, the sentence will definitely tell us something

[bold surge]

For real!!

[quartz shoal]

Even my non kpop friends have heard about it and have asked me if I stanned him

And my family too have asked about it and I’m like I don’t want to talk about it with you

[bold surge]

Yeah it’s crazy how much it’s spreading to different media outlets

127 does have a pretty decent fan base in the west so ig it makes sense

[wind saffron]

i told my mom about it yesterday while it was unfolding then this morning i realized locals alrd knew about it

[quartz shoal]

Cause they are your typical people when it comes to kpop idols they think the guys look like girls and that I want to marry them because I like their music and my family is really bad so I don’t even talk about kpop in general to them because of the remarks they would say

[wind saffron]

the only thing i wish for about how global this case is getting, is for people to start listening to korean women

[woven wing]

well when I access youtube theres already a lot of videos commenting about the case

[bold surge]

i'm still debating on talking about it as well

[quartz shoal]

Im not ready to deep dive into videos talking about it cause its still too much for my head today

[bold surge]

I don't blame you, it's heavy stuff

[quartz shoal]

Yeah plus when I do it I’ll also do the nth room too and that also really heavy and days when you have a migraine are not days to do a deep dive

Nct Zone is deleting anything related to Taeil

[glass portal]

it’s a huge debate on whether to speak about it or not and to gather information as well. it’s stressful, please take care of yourselves and step back if it gets too much !

[vale reef]

This also happened.

[woven wing]

He is going down like big time

[glass portal]

it’s insane, really. i’m still shocked after a full 24 hours

[vale reef]

This will go on as one of the biggest Kpop scandals.

[glass portal]

very much, my brother who doesn’t give a f about kpop and knows nothing about kpop talked to me about it since it’s everywhere on his social media.

[quartz shoal]

He’s definitely gonna be blackballed in Korea for sure

[bold surge]

For sure

[frank helm]

I hope that the members don't have to suffer because of this. My heart goes out to the victim, so please don't misunderstand, however the thought that the members who are innocent might have their careers ruined because of this. It feels like whether internally or externally, NCT has been in scandals one after the other, this being the worst one. Again, I am not defending Taeil nor am I belittling the victim's suffering. However, when I imagine myself in their place, and when I imagine someone close to me that I've known for years doing something like this, it makes me feel incredibly heartbroken.

[formal whale]

Wow. The entire industry's really about to be like "tale who? never heard of him"

[vale reef]

This breaks my heart

[hushed wraith]

20/200 from what I heard are idols

[hushed wraith]

We need saesangs to work for this case the only time I’m okay as I say someone else say

[hushed wraith]

And I pray that there won’t be 3rd I’m sick of this

[quartz shoal]

As he deserves

[faint herald]

Honestly.... I'm only a little worried about NCT falling apart. If Taeyong does dip, obvs there's little to no chance they survive but thankfully most of the groups these things have affected were much smaller.

[bronze frigate]

And Nct has a lot of members

As a group

[faint herald]

Yeeee. That's why I think they'll be okay.

[bronze frigate]

They will be ok for sure , also because they have many members, someone will cover taeil's lines in the songs

It's very easy

[bold surge]

Yeah I’m very worried about 127 tbh

[faint herald]

That's valid. My concern is piqued with Ty in following EVERYONE but .. idk

[faint haven]

Ohhhh

[faint haven]

WHAT THE-

[woven wing]

I just wish someone had the idea of recording again the songs without his voice

[woven wing]

||I cried yesterday thinking about it||

[bronze frigate]

Even though that would be an almost impossible task , because he was one of the members that debuted through 2016 with so many songs being participated in

[grand crater]

Ya'll

I am just in

......

complete shock

and disbalief

[woven wing]

yeah unfortunately

[bronze frigate]

What the

[frail zenith]

i think they'll be ok

[blissful tiger]

||https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMrTfe1NE/||

this girl explains it well

[lavish light]

wait so

is this basically just the Lucas situation... again?

[quartz shoal]

I wouldn’t necessarily believe this because the fact that the police are involved means something happened and they could be a person faking it cause the account I saw that was the victim was names Agnes

[blissful tiger]

nah babes. sm was quick to boot him and the police is involved. they gathered evidence before informing sm.

[polar ruin]

I've noped off of Twitter by this point because of all the misinformation and lies

[blissful tiger]

yes there is a lot. had to narrow down what is real and fake.

imma only stick to the police statements and any statement sm makes

[quartz shoal]

Same me too

[polar ruin]

Same here

[lavish light]

thats the best thing to do

can't trust twitter

[woven wing]

way worse roka. Go see the pinned messages

[lavish light]

oh

[polar ruin]

Definitely not like Lucas. He has been confirmed for sure to have done something

[lavish light]

i see

[orchid bear]

Exactly

[shrewd cloak]

please make sure to censor the cursing in these

[cyan agate]

Don't know why the troll account is doubling down... They could get prosecuted because of this in the future...

[quartz shoal]

Sorry my bad

[bold surge]

https://tenor.com/view/k-pop-dotae-nct-nct127-ccg-gif-16019795

[bold surge]

i don't blame you, it's quite bad

[bold surge]

i really hope so

[tame minnow]

No-

[bold surge]

this was confirmed to be a troll account that was just trying to stir up lies. they even posted a ||self harm|| pic randomly to shock people, i unfortunately saw it for myself. listen to the community note, i wouldn't believe a word they say

they were also called out multiple times for using a google translator to fabricate messages they "received from taeil" mixing up formal and informal speech, conjugating korean verbs wrong etc

and it's really messed up that they did all of that bc it's making light of the situation...meanwhile there's an actual victim

[lavish light]

yeah i learned that now 🗿

[modern hound]

Can people take this seriously jeez

[bold surge]

i really wish they would...

[frank helm]

there's always going to be people like that, and just wait for the "tbh i always thought taeil was..." comments to start. like can you stop lying and contributing to the problem just so you can get attention. things like this are literally so disrespectful to the victim, and sorry for the rant lol

[daring socket]

I already have seen those comments

And people are being like “there’s no way the group didn’t know if he was investigated since June”

Like I saw a comment already being like “looking back at their content, the members were so awkward with him”

[frank helm]

they don't know what the members knew or didn't know, and even if they did they probably had to knew their lips sealed

[daring socket]

Yeah

Cause you can’t spill the beans on an investigation

Especially something this serious

[frank helm]

like stop lying nobody knew that this was going to happen

[daring socket]

Just because in the small chance they did know, they didn’t tell anyone, doesn’t mean they supported him

That’s like someone made text screenshots too to be like “this is him threatening the 11 year old” and people who knew Korean were like “this is so fake from seeing the translation”

[wind saffron]

these types of comments take away from the fact that what made him so threatening is how he had us all fooled

[daring socket]

Yeah the fact we all fell for the sweet boy you’d introduce to your parents and had no idea of him doing this type of thing is very scary

[wind saffron]

it feels a bit victim blaming-ish to me too but maybe I'm too sensitive

it's like you're basically saying "how could you have fallen for this when i spotted the red flags miles away"

[frank helm]

i recall the similar things happening during the situation with that one former skz member. i wasn't that much into kpop then, but i found it insane how people were making entire compilation overanalyzing his every action and interaction, and i fear the same will happen with this

[wind saffron]

those comments always rub me off the wrong way cus most of the time it's just "evil" editing and useless over analyzing

people can be scary, it's ok to admit it and not like act like a smarty who doesn't fall for sh#t

[frank helm]

this, and feels a superiority thing like "omg i been knew about this but i just didn't want to say..
"

[wind saffron]

its just a rlly poor way to treat victims to say the least in the most polite way possibke </3

[wind saffron]

the over analyzing and edits killed any discourse regarding the situation, it was wild

[frank helm]

complete insanity, witnessing that situation was what helped me be more level-headed during the Lucas situation, and not just running with rumors and misinformation

[wind saffron]

taeil's situation is one of the few where police actually get involved

so i genuinely hope the misinformation would stop but i know it wont

im only sticking with sm reports, police reports and what the victim has posted so besides that- none

it's also sickening to see people bring up hc and johnny when they were fake rumours

[frank helm]

its definitely not, and all it takes is a few comments for misinformation to spread like a wildfire, and i alr see it happening on tiktok

[wind saffron]

n1 example of this is the list of participants in the nth room

context people dont seem to know about it is that protecting criminals' identities and privacy is apart of the law there

[frank helm]

omg i forgot about that, what was that about again
???

[daring socket]

It really is, like people did (and still do) the same for Lucas and Woojin

[wind saffron]

which is why they cover their faces and use aliases and whatnot

it's only in extreme cases where they do reveal their identities or with their consent

[daring socket]

so many are saying Johnny and jc needs to be re-investigated because of this Taeil situation. Saying things like “they probs covered for each other”

It’s all just…

[wind saffron]

which yes, it's stupid lol but it's a bit weird to just run with misinfo when the fact that the police were about about taeil being the one under investigation says enough

[bold surge]

i'm sorry but this makes me so mad

[wind saffron]

news flash consentual hoohaa is a crime now /j

[frank helm]

its literally sickening

and its like this that they'll drag the other members in, when we dont know anything yet

[wind saffron]

like they're nearing their late 30s they can do wtv they want as long as nobodys being harmed, which isnt the case for taeil

some damage was done, we dont know what specifically but damage was done

[daring socket]

Same Bri

[daring socket]

Then the notion of its girls faults for stanning boys and being like girls should only stan girls I am just… blaming fans for stanning taeil as if any of us would have known besides the victim before this came out

I hate it

[daring socket]

Exactly

I also keep seeing people being liek all idols in their late 20s and older are probably creeps and I’m like no??? Like leave them alone unless they are proven to be such

[frank helm]

this, i've only experienced like a few major scandals since i got into kpop, and i have learned SO much. it really taught me to take a step back and use my common sense, and unfortunately not everyone has gotten
to this point yet

[faint haven]

?? Context pls who is that and what happened

[bold surge]

it was a troll account

that's why there's a community note on the tweet

[faint haven]

Oh what did they do/say

[woven wing]

In a normal righteous universe everyone would be sad and thinking about the victims, how they are dealing with the trauma and the exposition. But not in this universe. In this one, people are creating a circus around this

[quaint yarrow]

Like I said they don’t actually care about victims or the people they believed to be the victim. They just want to justify their hatred for someone they already didn’t like.

[bold surge]

Very true

[quaint yarrow]

When it came to false accusations they proved that theory even more.

[quaint yarrow]

Cause when it turns out the alleged perpetrator is actually the victim. They always say the classic “Even if they are innocent…” (I hate this statement so much…) Never apologize or comfort them after all the ||deth threats|| and spreading misinformation. They never take accountability ever. (Same with the person who lied in the first place. They get always get away with it) Once they don’t like someone they don’t care.

[shadow notch]

Also like with the victim she said that she didn't want to be revealed so most likely people who are claiming to be the victim isn't actually the victim in this case. Like people need to realize that not everything you see on social media is true especially since the police haven't revealed that much information about this case. And like people should wait for the police to make an official report before jumping to conclusions on what actually happened because you never know he could have done worse things or not as worse things but because nothing has been confirmed and all the allegations are allegations and not concrete facts

[quaint yarrow]

The problem is that people are so impatient.

[shadow notch]

Like people are hearing one thing and running with it. Like I am in no way justifying his actions but cases like these it is probably going to take some time before everything is revealed to the public

[quaint yarrow]

They cant wait for more information they have to run their mouths.

[shadow notch]

This is why in cases like these I like to wait for more information to come out and not really read into what people are saying online because half of the time they are just saying things just to say them

Like I am guessing he has a bunch of evidence against him since the investigation has been going on since June and the police didn't even reveal it until mid August but I always stay neutral in these situations because there are always 2 sides to every story but when more information comes out about everything that has happened I will probably pick a side

[quaint yarrow]

That’s the way it should be.

[agile flicker]

I wish I could be neutral about this but there’s a ridiculous amount of information against taeil

[quartz shoal]

Is anyone else’s fyp on tt attacking them with an overload of official nct’s tiktoks?

[shadow notch]

Mine is

[glass portal]

mine is oddly, i rarely saw nct and their tiktoks but since yesterday it’s EVERYWHERE on my fyp

[shrewd cloak]

yes

[odd lodge]

im getting a lot of their ig reels

seems like a lot of others are too since I'm getting likes/replies to comments i left on said reels weeks/months ago 😭

[shrewd cloak]

their page probably had a lot searches and it's boosting their account so it's appearing on peoples fyp mine included. and a bunch of the comments are recent too

[glass portal]

yeah, i even got a tiktok from like 2023 i think bc of the boost… wild

from a czennies post too

[patent bramble]

yup. got one on reels today

[shrewd cloak]

yeah popular searches tend to resurface on people's feed even if it's not recent content

[odd lodge]

beyond everything ive been really sad thinking about nct's future as a group tbh. 2024 was looking so good for nct and now it's all been ruined by one guy. this is definitely gonna damage their reputation forever and it makes me so mad

my one little bit of hope is that sm groups don't really tend to disband but i wouldn't be surprised if nct kinda fell apart after this

[patent bramble]

yeah

[odd lodge]

i really hope they don't

[patent bramble]

the other members shouldn't have to take the fall for what ONE person did

[odd lodge]

nct are my 2nd favourite group of all time i don't think I could handle it if they went out in a worse way than gfriend

[patent bramble]

and i mean i'll respect their decision if they choose not to continue bc i respect their autonomy but like...

[patent bramble]

bro i'll pay for your therapy /lh

[odd lodge]

lol thanks

[patent bramble]

they've got really great songs and talent and i'm sure they have so much more to share with us and i would really hate for them to throw it all away because of ONE DUDE

[odd lodge]

i hope if they choose that it's just because that's what they want and not because of taeil

[patent bramble]

EXACTLY

[odd lodge]

it'd be awful to see an entire group fall apart and give up hope because of one bad person

[odd lodge]

yes absolutely

I can't imagine how the others are feeling right now. they're probably so hurt and feel so betrayed

[patent bramble]

no really ):

[odd lodge]

but i seriously need doyoung to GET IN THAT DAMN STUDIO

[patent bramble]

legit i saw someone on twitter or insta (idr which lol) who said something along the lines of "oop johnny must be in a panic bc he's the new oldest" like sure jan that's the ONLY THING he's thinking about

[patent bramble]

get US IN THAT DAMN STUDIO

[odd lodge]

REALLLLLLLL

get yuta in there too smh

i need fimls yuta high note studio version

[odd lodge]

yeah totally! 😀

I saw a video from like 2 days ago where haechan was getting emotional watching 127's old videos and stuff and UGH

TWO DAYS AGO

POOR GUY'S GOTTA BE IN SHAMBLES RN

[patent bramble]

BRUH

haechan cmere sweetie i'll bake u cookies

[odd lodge]

literally

[bold surge]

that's what i'm afraid of tbh

[patent bramble]

me, you, yuta, doyoung, it's a date!

[odd lodge]

omg so cute <3

[odd lodge]

yeah i don't need nct to end up in the sm dungeon </3

we were able to recover pretty decently from lucas's scandal but i bet that was mostly bc wayv isn't even seen as nct a lot of the time

even then that's nowhere near this level

[patent bramble]

legit

[odd lodge]

I'm not one to talk bc obv I'm really upset about this but it's probably way too early to think about this stuff honestly 😭 at least I hope it is

[patent bramble]

i'm jobless rn maybe i can run sm and figure all this out /j

[odd lodge]

excuse the sudden switch up the lucas thing just kinda got me thinking lol

[patent bramble]

no yeah ofc no worries

[odd lodge]

so real lets go together

[patent bramble]

bet!

[odd lodge]

I need a job anyways get me in the studio SM 😍

I'm still really conflicted on where I stand when it comes to listening to 127's music though

[patent bramble]

yeah me too

[odd lodge]

bc obv it's some damn good music and i wanna support the other 8 members but taeil has so many lines it'd be hard to ignore

[patent bramble]

cause like THEY GOT GOOD SONGS

damn good music

[odd lodge]

i can't live without rain drop though what do i do ☹️

[patent bramble]

i haven't been listening to nct a lot recently so it hasn't been that difficult for me to stop but WHAT IF I SUDDENLY WANNA VVS MY DIAMONDS!??!?!?

[odd lodge]

LITERALLY

I've had the walk album on repeat since it came out I'm struggling 😭💔

[patent bramble]

ok idea. we record our own versions of every 127 song

BOOM

[odd lodge]

walk, pricey, rain drop, suddenly and can't help myself have consistently been in my top spotify tracks for the past month 🫠

[odd lodge]

REAL

I'm so unprepared though all of my playlists have nct u/127 in them 😭😭😭 so ive had to listen to my one playlist without them which is my entirely ateez playlist 💀

if I wasn't the #1 atiny on airbuds before I sure am now!

i gotta get to work making a new playlist 💔

[patent bramble]

bet! (omg dm me your airbuds lets be friends lol)

[odd lodge]

OMG OK <3

[patent bramble]

YAY!

[patent bramble]

i knew the countless hours of practicing for ncbri (moment of silence you shall be missed) was going to be worth it one day

[odd lodge]

rip ncbri 😢🙏

[patent bramble]

truly gone too soon

[cursive raft]

nope

[daring socket]

On mercari it’s all a bunch of burned, cut apart, and jail bars drawn onto his pcs

[daring socket]

The fact people leave comments like this on the other members Instagram posts just

Scrolling I’ve seen at least 10+ comments all being like this on marks recent post

[patent bramble]

bruh

[odd lodge]

if mark lee is the only man you trust in the world then you have bigger problems

[patent bramble]

exactly

[quaint yarrow]

Or here’s a thought don’t put this much pressure on trust on strangers….

[frail glen]

this is earth quaking news what

i am in denial

[glass portal]

i don’t know why people think it’s fine to say things like this to the others or even other idols in general. i’ve seen tiktoks of people saying “please don’t let [blank] be like him” or on “the list”. it just seems so, i don’t know how to word it or describe it but in a way, insensitive. sure, it’s scary to think of the possibilities but i think atm it is highly inappropriate to say it

and i’ve seen some say “oh, i know [blank] is on that list” like oh, that’s not..

[quaint yarrow]

For real. The same way y’all always stop praising these people like gods because you don’t know them, that same energy needs to apply to thinking the worst of people you don’t know. It’s so annoying.

[onyx kernel]

https://x.com/pannchoa/status/1829246179424776394

pannchoa (@pannchoa) on X

Former NCT member Taeil revealed to have done a birthday livestream a day after he was booked by the police for s*x crime
https://t.co/fg1XVEVQdi

Twitter · Aug 29, 2024, 7:54 PM

[hushed wraith]

I- na place him in the jail heck under it

[quartz shoal]

Dreamies are flying out today to a schedule and pictures speak a thousand words and SM is so heartless to send these boys out when they know the entire kpop world and part of the rest of the world is watching them

[odd lodge]

they cancelled jaehyun's entire solo promotion but couldn't give the dreamies a break too??

[patent bramble]

me when i enter a fumbling the bag contest and sm is my competition

[odd lodge]

im so sick of people trying to bring the rest of nct into this. obv we have no way of knowing if they're involved, but it's way more than likely they had no idea. nct is huge. over half of them probably don't even see the guy more than once a week. He's been on somewhat of a hiatus for nearly a year because of his injury while 127 have been touring and preparing for their comeback and several members have been doing solo work. They've probably all been too busy to even suspect anything's up and likely had no reason to. Maybe this makes me the delusional fan but I really don't think there's anything wrong with not wanting to think of my favourite artists as criminals 😭

I see a lot of people bringing Lucas, Johnny and Haechan into this as well and it bugs me just as much

I'm tired of seeing people who clearly aren't nctzens and know nothing about the group outside of fake news and baseless rumours try to speak on the situation and drag nct's name through the dirt even more

and if even SM just found out about this recently???

i think I just need to log out of twitter 😭

[quartz shoal]

Yeah I did yesterday

[bold surge]

I hear you but I don’t think it would be feasible for SM to cancel the 2nd leg of their tour so I’m not surprised

Like there’s a lot of stuff that goes into it with visas etc ://

[odd lodge]

yeah that's true

[patent bramble]

yeah and there also might be issues with cancellation with the venues and whatnot

[bold surge]

exactly

[blissful tiger]

im actually fuming. they really let hyuck and mark continue their schedules with everything that has happened.

[stoic pecan]

I thought they didn’t inform him he was being investigated so he couldn’t run?

[bold surge]

yeah, i think there's something weird with that translation. june 13th was the day the victim filed the report. i don't think taeil and SM were made aware of the investigation until mid august

and bangbae pd started investigating in the beginning of august

[stoic pecan]

Alright that clarifies it

Also apparently agnes isn’t the victim mentioned in the report?

[bold surge]

probably not, we don't know the identity of the victim

we just know she's an adult woman

[stoic pecan]

Alright thanks again

[frail zenith]

Yeah they want to stay hidden

[odd lodge]

saw this thread earlier which pretty much said exactly what I was thinking, I just didn't know how to put it into words

I think saying "we really don't know our idols" or smth in response to a situation like this puts the focus on the wrong things. It feels more like we're trying to blame the fans for wanting to trust that an idol they like is a good person rather than blame the actual idol for being a pos

yk

[quartz shoal]

Yes agnes said her case was closed

[quartz shoal]

I hate that phrase so much cause its like I dont want to be the person who assumes every idol i stan is a terrible person

[bold surge]

Yes, I think it’s a really insensitive thing to say in this situation. It’s such a serious issue, no one could’ve seen this coming like it has nothing to do with knowing a person—

[formal whale]

It's not on fans to worry about whether or not a celebrity they like is secretly a prdator/abser/criminal/whatever. It's on that celebrity to just be a normal decent person like everyone should be

[quaint yarrow]

Exactly their are people who do know him and trusted him, family and friends and they didn’t see this coming.

[quaint yarrow]

I hate instead of sending nice messages to the other members it’s all just “I hope you’re not like him”. Like please read the room my god.

[onyx kernel]

exactly jolio

[quaint yarrow]

Not thinking about how they feel at all.

[formal whale]

I wanna say one more thing: if you're familiar with true crime/investigative journalism programming, you know that there will inevitably be someone being interviewed saying something like "he seemed like such a nice guy I never imagined he would do something like this" like, it's a total cliché. My point is: people who commit horrible acts are very very good at convincing the people around them that they are definitely not the type of person who would such commit horrible acts

[odd lodge]

exactly!

like my bad for not going into every group with the mindset of them being criminals???

[odd lodge]

yeah that's so gross

imagine being an innocent person with absolutely no relation to or knowledge of a crime someone close to you committed and being told "i hope you're not like him" rather than "i hope you're doing ok" or something actually nice and supportive 😭

like think about how upset we are as fans, then multiply that by 100

if i had to guess that's probably how a lot of nct are feeling rn

and their fans are only telling them that they better not be like him

[cursive raft]

First nct tiktok on my fyp after the thing and just look at the sound

[bold surge]

https://vxtwitter.com/bbyminyongie/status/1829830841834537148

haechan's bubble messages

[woven wing]

If I could hug him right now... I would

[bold surge]

same

i really appreciate how transparent he's being with his feelings rn, i really hope he's ok

hope all the czennies seeing them on tour show them lots of love, they really need it rn

[woven wing]

It's like every each one of them will have to force themselves to make people happy when they are the ones who should have some consolation from the fans

They need to be assured they would never be left behind

[bold surge]

exactly :(((

[bold surge]

[blissful tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-gun-kermit-gun-gif-16355306064126846866

LEAVE MY POOKIE ALONE

T_T

[patent bramble]

haechanie

[blissful tiger]

"im always sorry" T_T

[quartz shoal]

I FEEL SO BAD FOR HIM

and Mark too like this has to be so hard for them continuing the tour like nothing happened

[woven wing]

Sorry for what I am about to say (not feeling that sorry but I dont care) I hope t0e1l rots in hell

[bold surge]

IM READY TO GO TO WAR I AM SO SERIOUS

[woven wing]

Sometimes I ask myself how far some human beings can go just to make others feel bad

[bold surge]

[patent bramble]

Start the car I’m coming with

[bold surge]

https://tenor.com/view/hummer-gmc-ev-motionarabia-dubai-gif-18885251

[woven wing]

I am also coming with y'all!!!

[hushed wraith]

The lowest and more horrid sector of it too

[odd lodge]

dont feel sorry that mf deserves it

[limpid arrow]

I’m not a violent person, but I wanna step on his neck.

[hot silo]

:((

seeing this and seeing how they were at the airport makes me so sad

they dont deserve the hate just bc of one persons completely messed up and disgusting actions

[quartz shoal]

exactly but unfortunately all the members and ive even seen some people side eyeing sungchan and shotaro

People just dont believe that they didnt know and I do understand their thinking but its possible

[modern hound]

https://x.com/unojaehyun/status/1829847019847905296?s=46

스테프🥃 (@unojaehyun) on X

We’re a group. We always have to understand the fact that we’re on the same boat. So you can’t do whatever you want. We have that understanding of responsibility as well. We came here in this label all for the same reason so we always kind of remind each other of that.

Twitter · Aug 31, 2024, 11:41 AM

Someone didn't get that memo

[limpid arrow]

Bruh, I just had round & round come up in one of my playlists and I had to skip it because [redacted] was the first voice to pop up in the song (it was a run, but I shut it off real quick). I can’t even enjoy the song anymore 😭😭😭

[onyx kernel]

[quartz shoal]

I have started listening to NCT again I just don’t sing his parts and pull a everytime he comes on

Because I do still love the other members and I don’t want to let one person ruin the music for me

[limpid arrow]

I feel you. I haven’t gotten to that point yet, but I hope so. Listen to his voice makes me sick right now

[quartz shoal]

I get that cause the first 2 days I couldn’t listen to any nct at all I would skip the other songs from the other units too but then I was like it’s not the other members fault he turned out to be terrible if they didn’t know so it’s not fair to them but 100% valid if you can’t listen yet cause it’s so understandable in this situation

[odd lodge]

i wanna listen to nct so bad but it just feels weird now

i don't think I'll stop forever but it'll take me a little while to feel normal about listening to 127 again especially

[modern hound]

Nct dream wish and wayv 🫶🏽

[storm pilot]

Understandable, even listening to songs without him in it just reminds me of the situation

[onyx kernel]

i cant either even watching nct 127 mv's is dfficult due tot he situation

[glass portal]

sun & moon came on for me earlier and i felt so strange when it came on, like almost an empty feeling. i had to skip it

[vale reef]

When it's already hard for me to listen to No Longer, he makes it even harder and I might possibly never have to listen to the song again

[shadow notch]

Same. I haven't been able to listen to an NCT 127 song since the news was released

[odd lodge]

yeah thats exactly it

I watched the unity and nct nation with my friend the other day which was ok bc he was just entirely absent but

🥲

[quartz shoal]

This isn’t really related other than it’s about Taeil but has his insta always had a YouTube link in it?

[daring socket]

I don’t think so

The channel has no videos but the fact 229k subscribed already…

[bronze frigate]

He seems to be losing at least around 200k insta followers so far since the whole scandal happened

[bold surge]

i don't think so

[quartz shoal]

Yeah but like 4.9 mil people still follow him boggles my mind

[shadow notch]

The YouTube channel was made in 2023 but I was never really that active on his Insta even before the scandle so I don't know if it was always there or not

[bold surge]

i checked his insta a few days ago and idr it being there, so i feel like he might've just added it

[quartz shoal]

Okay thank you I didn’t look that far to see when it was created so it wasn’t just created after his departure

[bold surge]

i wonder if he intends to post content though...

[quartz shoal]

Well if he just added it I’m sure that’s the thought process

[bold surge]

yeah i just find it weird that he'd do it while a whole investigation is going on

[bronze frigate]

Me too. Maybe more people will start unfollow him slowly

It doesn't happen in an instant

[shrewd cloak]

i only just unfollowed him today just bc it hasn't crossed my mind before

[wind saffron]

i feel like there's many who are still processing the information, there's also those who support him and you also have the people who forgot that they follow him 😭

[hot silo]

Yk for a man who just lost his job and reputation it’s insane to post now if he does plan on posting

[hot silo]

That was me I literally unfollowed him like 2 days ago bc I forgot 😭😭

[bold surge]

help no but fr that’s what I’m saying!!

[wind saffron]

i think the follower count can be indicative that some people still support him but it's not that important imo

i think its defo suspicious that he suddenly added his ytb channel

[hot silo]

Yea

[wind saffron]

and i feel like it adds a layer of darkness to what's happening

i cant explain it but it's like he knows that some people will still support him no matter what

and even if he'll end up with a bad reputation, he won't face actual repercussions

[bold surge]

ugh

[quartz shoal]

Fr like it’s very like “I don’t care and I still have people that will support me” feeling which is icky

[wind saffron]

he obv wont post anything now but what about later?

[bold surge]

Exactly like it feels so slimy idk

[wind saffron]

its a lot more disgusting to see him have subscribers on a channel he just promoted

[bold surge]

Yeah maybe when things die down a bit

[wind saffron]

than to see his follower count

i dont blame anybody who focuses on it, its very overwhelming to be an exfan in a situation like this

[wind saffron]

if i ever come across it, I'll block it but i dont feel like intentionally going into the link and whatnot just to do that

[quartz shoal]

Yeah it’s very tone deaf which is the least of what it feels like

[wind saffron]

as hard as it is, i thinn avoiding his presence is the best thing i can do for myself

[patent bramble]

yeah he created a channel and posted a couple covers there in 2023 but it’s been inactive since the accident for obvious reasons

[wind saffron]

just focus on the police and sm's reports

and double check the translations cus there were SO MANY mistranslations and (especially) misinterpretations of the police report

[quartz shoal]

Me too but I just went cause I thought I has an old account I can’t access anymore that follows him and I came across that and I thought I was maybe just not observant

[bold surge]

Yes! I honestly had to go straight to Korean articles for my sources

[quartz shoal]

Yeah which is terrible that people are adding their own narratives to what happened when we know nothing

[wind saffron]

i just remember how confusing the police report was

[patent bramble]

oh yeah for sure

[wind saffron]

and how many people dismissed agnes's claims

[bold surge]

yeah the thing with Agnes is she could possibly be a victim, we just know she’s not the person in the current investigation

[wind saffron]

so all i can saw is to wait for trusted translators to do their thing cus korean's one of those languages where context can play a big role in the meaning

[bold surge]

and a lot of the other posts she’s made brings some of the things she said into question

[wind saffron]

it rlly pissed me off how so many people just, didnt bother to double check and just treated her as a liar or completely cancelled any ounce if victimhood she had

like there were so minor victims of the same sexe, but what about the opposite one??

[wind saffron]

honestly the only thing i can recommend is to always double check the translations when you're dealing with languages who's meanings are shaped by the context (idk how to phrase this sorry)

and just taking time for urself, that's all i can recommend to do </3

cus besides that, we're gonna need patience and waiting for something to actually happen like court hearings or trials or even an arrest

[shadow notch]

I know this is going to take time especially since this is most likely going to be brought to court but I'm going to wait for more things to come out (if they even do) and if Stephanie Soo will ever cover this case because I know she will do her research

[wind saffron]

i mean if we compare it with similar situations

i estimate it won't take less than 8 months if the investigation goes well enough

[shadow notch]

We will probably get more information probably in February or March of 2025

[odd lodge]

idk when he added it but I saw it there when I unfollowed him

[quartz shoal]

Yeah I unfollowed him the day it broke and I don’t remember seeing it but I’m not the most observant person so it could have been there and I just didn’t see it

[wind saffron]

yeah exactly, it's not gonna be fast and we might not get updates regularly either

which is fine, there's serious allegations involved here

[blissful tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/enhypen-heeseung-enhypen-heeseung-heeseung-enhypen-unimpressed-gif-24188786

i mean... i don't think anyone would be interested

[bold surge]

https://tenor.com/view/liyahsphoenix-serpentxnefire-queen-opp-clock-it-clock-that-tea-gif-574393291269044566

[patent bramble]

except for like 1 delusional person or something

[quartz shoal]

Except for the 200k people subscribed to the channel

[limpid arrow]

You never know these days

[faint herald]

There are still people who support Kr#s, Se#ngri and M#ckey and many others, sadly, so this... isn't surprising.

[haughty lance]

I honestly couldn't bring myself to put words into how I feel about this but the word is clearly betrayal. The way he has been kicked so quickly just confirms that this case has to be taken very seriously and that this is not just a rumor spread by an anti-fan. I am so sorry for the victim and her family. And I can't believe ppl are ready to still be behind this man's actions. I wasn't the hughest fan of Taeil but I still appreciated his voice and peaceful presence in videos and complicity with Heachan. And now... a whole new side of this man that was all smiley and calm has shown itself. How disappointing. I can't believe this. Wasted my time in supporting this man since 2016. I am sorry for the members too. They are going to face a lot of backlash after this. NCT 127 and Dream are groups that brought me happiness since my teenage years. How did it come to this ? I'll support the rest of the members but the victim needs justice and I won't stand for this behavior and nobody should. If you're supporting a criminal you're part of the problem too. I hope you don't live 1% of what the victim had to go through.
PS : I do think that SM is moving on too quickly from this by pushing Jaehyun's solo forward these days and it brings out a bad shadow on him, as he does not seem to care about the victim's suffering because of his past member's crimes. Maybe the videos that are shared these days have been filmed before, but I do think that SM should have paused all of NCT 127's members schedules for a while. This does not make me want to stream Jaehyun's solo, as I need more compassion for the victim's situation.

[hushed wraith]

And that’s gross as heck

[bold surge]

He privated his insta

[quartz shoal]

And I oop

Probably because the comments were not nice to him

[patent bramble]

[quartz shoal]

Let me figure out how to get back into my old Instagram to see what he is keeping behind the privating of his account

[bold surge]

[quartz shoal]

That would require me to find my old phone

[bronze frigate]

Byyyyye

[woven wing]

Karma is a beach

[bold surge]

https://vxtwitter.com/PopBase/status/1831405893654925451

[bronze frigate]

He lost 1 million followers. Wooow way more than I thought

[quartz shoal]

Yeah i thought it was only 200k

[bold surge]

yeah not sure if it's 100% accurate bc idk what is follower count was before all this went down

[woven wing]

I immediatelly unfollowed him, I didnt even dare to look at his pictures. I was disgusted that the unfollow button was my only goal

[quartz shoal]

Yeah same

[daring socket]

Same

I’m sure people who still did will post what he posts if anything so

[odd lodge]

he was at around 5.6-7m i believe

[bold surge]

https://vxtwitter.com/atouchbase/status/1831505860914557023

well...

[onyx kernel]

well is right bri

[quartz shoal]

IMO it makes him look more guilty that he privated his insta

Also his post count went from 60 to 55

[woven wing]

https://tenor.com/view/umm-surprised-awkward-uncomfortable-nervous-gif-744822327069673415

[grand crater]

oh trust me they weren't XD

[bold surge]

i agree

especially since he hasn't said anything (not that i expect him to)

[peak lotus]

tbf I'm sure a lawyer would advise him not to make a statement regardless

[bold surge]

yup, that's why i don't expect him to say anything

[quartz shoal]

Yeah i dont either because of the severity of the allegations

[bold surge]

https://vxtwitter.com/NCTDAOYlNG/status/1832750511017324726

[bold surge]

doyoung's recent bubble message. for context, he broke down while singing rest at his solo concert and couldn't continue singing the song. :((

not 100% sure but this might be the first bubble message he's sent since everything happened with taeil

[limpid arrow]

I will never forgive this man for the damages that he has caused to 127 and I will not forgive SM for making the members remain on their schedules during this time.

[quartz shoal]

Same cause nct are always gonna have this label of “group that had an ||abuser|| in it” which is terrible

[glass portal]

not only that but those toxic kpop stans who will use it against czennies too

[modern hound]

https://x.com/127stills/status/1832764008975179953?s=46

✪ (@127stills) on X

from doyoung.

Twitter · Sep 8, 2024, 12:52 PM

[onyx kernel]

i love doyoung

[quartz shoal]

His messages make me cry so hard d

[woven wing]

Doyoung... Jesus not him making me cry too.

[woven wing]

Doyoung.... Boy
Like bri2 said, I will never forgive that trash of a man for all of this.
They should be in their homes, in peace thinking about how to handle properly the situation, think of their well being!! But NO, SM just wants the money to drip whenever they can

[modern hound]

Are they on concert or what cuz sm can’t really cancel without getting in trouble

[woven wing]

Well... Seeing in that perpective you are right. Like cancelling concerts so close to date could eventually be bad, but theres another part of me that is like "how can you do that".
Honestly I dont know anymore

[brazen vapor]

what exactly was found out about taeil? i only saw the general timeline of events through koreaboo and the sm statement but no other sources to learn more. / genq

[bold surge]

if you saw koreaboo's timeline you pretty much have the gist of it. we don't know much besides he's still under investigation

there are also a few links and articles pinned in this channel

[blissful tiger]

: ((( honestly i feel like the members need to have a break

[formal whale]

Yeah they, I would say even more so than the fans, need time to step away to process this whole mess

[brazen vapor]

truly. all of nct need a break rn and nctzens can wait for them in the meantime. / g

nctzens need a break too, actually. / g

[tame minnow]

I do-

[brazen vapor]

i can’t tell if you mean this as a statement or question. 😅 / g

[tame minnow]

A statement

[brazen vapor]

oh okay.

[quartz shoal]

Me too

[bold surge]

[still thistle]

Any updates while i was gone?

[shadow notch]

Not really

[faint herald]

I feel this way. I kinda feel like cancelliung could be worse for them in a way. They do deserve a break but I feel like that choice should be up to them. There could be a feeling, for some of them, that if they go on break now when will be a good time? WHen will they get another chance? I'm not saying that's true but SM historically isn't good about giving individual members time to shine on their schedules. So it's just... affecting the other members ina lot of ways

[odd lodge]

yeah i agree

and like everyone copes in different ways, maybe some of them just wanna stay busy to keep their minds off it

and with something like dream's tour thats not something you can easily cancel

and im quite sure they could use the love and support of their fans rn

[shadow notch]

https://www.koreaboo.com/news/former-nct-member-taeils-sex-crime-case-sent-prosecution/

[woven wing]

Have fun in jail

I hope you go to jail first of all

[bold surge]

https://vxtwitter.com/atouchbase/status/1834568844884709601?s=46&t=HFLyTDH3cB-0HIQzhbcUnw

This makes me wonder if there is more than one victim

[woven wing]

Victims.... Jesus taeil

Go to hell simply that

[cursive raft]

what is prosecution's job?

foreigner card activated 😐

[modern hound]

They represent the government in criminal cases and are responsible for ensuring that justice is served by prosecuting individuals accused of committing crimes.

[cursive raft]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-17474838830648097856

[quartz shoal]

It wouldnt suprise me if they reopened the agnes person if she truly is a victim cause she said there wasnt enough evidence but with this other one coming out maybe they are reevaluating it

[bold surge]

that’s possible!

[quartz shoal]

And i know i live in the US and it could be different in korea but ive seen where cases were reopened when the perpetrator has another incident of the same kind or when new evidence shows up so its definitely a possibility

but for it to go to prosecution he is so done cause that means pretty serious evidence was brought forward

[limpid arrow]

Wow…just wow

[blissful tiger]

number of victims...

[hushed wraith]

The lowest worst most retched fiery part of it