Modding

[solar plover]

Yeah we.. Can't really do the animations either

We have actively been trying to figure out how to swap animations, Tseyks figured out a bit ago how to swap facial animations, but theory goes they're made to be swappable due to the different language dubs and the fact the faces need to be swapped out

But we are still working on it!

What we can do generally is a bit limited, only recently have certain mods like QoL and general game tweaking have picked up

And those are done by just.. tweaking some stuff in a notepad

I've been trying to make a mod that re-centers the direhorse camera and it has been a nightmare

I have zero clue what file controls that camera

[wooden plaza]

After this upcoming 3rd person update, hopefully our MC have sitting animation. Just wanna chill everywhere we take a break from fighting RDA. Warriors need to rest and reflect too.

[solar plover]

Maybe something will change with that update, once it's out we'll probably look through the new animation files

Ah crap that reminds me, I want to archive the current animations

I'm not gonna really do anything with them, I just think they deserve to be archived

hi tseyks

[pine oracle]

ive managed to get campfires to replace my sarentu totem viewing areas, but they arent functional, i think i need to look into replacing the sarentu totem sequence or smt

[pine oracle]

hi!

[pine oracle]

they do amke for some nice pictures at the very least

[solar plover]

Wait that's so smart

Do you still have the file for that perchance

[pine oracle]

i think i do

one sec

place this here: blue\graph objects\prop

sarentu totems are still viewable rn interestingly

[wooden plaza]

this 2nd picture did you slide and spam photo mode in the right time?

[pine oracle]

Yess I did

[bitter rapids]

is there a reason to this?

[restive prawn]

looks like where the head and body model separate, dunno why it looks super funky

[mint snow]

have you somehow ended up with a 4k texture only on the head?

[bitter rapids]

I redownloaded the mod and fixed it

[brave wing]

Katxì, I noticed u can purchase afop on nexus or at least it looks like it. Do u think its safe and co op would be available on it?

[pine oracle]

nexus is pretty safe for mods, but personally id just buy the game directly through ubisoft or steam

[glossy moth]

yeah, that one advertised there is a third party one and known to be shady

best buying directly from the official platforms or official/trustable retailers

[brave wing]

Okay thank u! I was asking for a friend so

[glossy moth]

yeah, I asked about it in another server for another game that's very strict about third party resellers. People said that Instant Gaming (that where the ad in NM takes to) is not trustable at all

[pine oracle]

cd keys is the only one id ever use

[glossy moth]

that's a shady one either 😄

I have seen issues for the said game from people that bought it there

[brave wing]

Also this is more of photo mode question but I hope u dont mind. I saw on TikTok that someone was doing a tutoria on some photos and I noticed while they were using emotes they like stopped them mid way. I can send the vid if u dont understand what I mean but what I want to ask is HOW I stop the emote mid way

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdK7mnxe/

It was aroud 1:20

[pine oracle]

they're just swapping back to no emote - the game will put the character back into the default idle animation for a couple of seconds before the character freezes for the photo

[brave wing]

Okay thx

[fleet raptor]

Can anyone help me use mods? Ima noob at using mods like a noob. 😭

[restive prawn]

#1391504244494045366 #1434732446242574356 ✨

[brave wing]

Kaltxì, its me again. Its about the situation with my friend trying to get afop the cheapest way but still good. (I also asked on a different channel but my question includes a mod too so i am asking here as well).I found a mod that allows afop to work on HHD too and people say its really good but I still want more opinions. I know nothing about the graphic her laptop has but she said its not exactly bad. So our goal is for it to at least run even if in Minecraft quality (would be great if it run in the smooth renge of way, somewhere in the spectrum yk). What do u think about the HHD mod and do u think it will be acceptable? Or any other tips?

[strong pilot]

Mods don't help if the laptop cannot run it :) check the specs first, they're easily found on Steam at least. But if it's not a gaming laptop, there's a high change it's not enough

[restive prawn]

^ adding to what Kxarmì said, here's the system requirements https://www.ubisoft.com/en-ca/help/avatar-frontiers-of-pandora/connectivity-and-performance/article/system-requirements-for-avatar-frontiers-of-pandora/000105823

[brave wing]

Okay thank u

So if her laptop has the requirements it has to have, the mod should work then?

[strong pilot]

Any mods should work as long as the game works, yes :)
Though I'm not sure what the mod you're talking of is?

[restive prawn]

https://www.nexusmods.com/avatarfrontiersofpandora/mods/4

no idea how it works but theres the link

[strong pilot]

Ohhhh

Ok, so it's not recommended to play the game on a HDD. I know people have done it, but it increases loading times and might cause other effects. I do not know hos much the mod actually affects things.

[high fulcrum]

HDD is basiclly an outdaded form of a drive. Its old and slow and prone to cracking. Demanding games should not be run on a HDD, a HDD is not made for that

[bitter rapids]

I have given up on trying to figure out this line thing

[pine oracle]

This is the head seam, you’ve likely got a mod that either darkened the head texture slightly or lightened the body texture a bit, that’s why it’s so bad

It’s like if you downloaded the 4k player skin (head and body) mod, but then changed the body file to another skin mod - they clash like this

[bitter rapids]

Dang.

This makes my life so much harder:D

[bitter rapids]

Is there any other skin mods that im not aware of for afop

[tame path]

it would depend on which ones you have downloaded. if you have on a texture for the body from one skin mod and the texture for the head from a different one, they won't line up

[bitter rapids]

...this makes my life so.....fun:D

[tame path]

why are you wanting different textures for the head and body? if youre wanting to use my mod i could whip something up depending on what the difference is

[tardy gazelle]

Does anybody know what could be the issue with the ikran flight visor mod (i placed every element into the right folder, the lenses are on my na'vi's head but the actual headpiece is invisible. o.O)?

[pine oracle]

the mod has moved the headpieces onto base game items so they can be combined - equip this headband

then equip this head mod

[tardy gazelle]

It works, thank you! ♥

[bitter rapids]

I have "fixed" it, to the point it doesn't really bother me
(almost drove me insane so that was fun:D)

Well i fixed something, there used to be black lines going over the face when i tried to use this one.

[tame path]

What texture was it? If it was mine I’d like to know any problems

[bitter rapids]

Oh I have no idea.

I’m not good at remembering things

[tame path]

Hmm, it should show up in your nexus download history

[bitter rapids]

That problem happened a long time ago way before your texture came out.

[bitter rapids]

I am kinda just going to take a break from the head texture and stuff because i have tried everything and almost went insane ill try again when i have more free time.

[tame path]

so what exactly are you doing/trying to do? I could help if i knew the result you were going for

[bitter rapids]

I think im just gonna pick it up again on saturday.

Also i went back in other photos i took of more of my na'vi and it seems the separate head and body texture was there, i just wasn't really bothered by it until now

[pine oracle]

If you haven’t got a head texture causing it, then try body

The seam in base game isn’t that great either

[tardy gazelle]

Hellow! ♥ Does anybody know a solution that when the sun touches my modded top, sometimes it is almost black?:

Okey on this picture it's not black, but sometimes it is like the night on Earth. O.O Thx in advance!

[pine oracle]

thats usually to do with the _n file of the top being a bit too 'strong'

the opacity of it just needs to be lowered a little bit

[tardy gazelle]

can I do that in gimp and then save the actual file tseyks?

[mint snow]

I don't think gimp can handle the specific kind of dds AFOP uses
You could try, but my guess is it won't work properly

We mostly use paint.net to export

[tardy gazelle]

ty so much, tseyks helped me to do the file. ^^ Next time I will try myself with paint.net

[bitter rapids]

Are these two different shades or am i just blind

[pine oracle]

err this line?

[tame path]

If it’s that line yes 100% the leg is ever so slightly darker

[bitter rapids]

...im gonna have a mental breakdown...YAY

[tame path]

Do you have blender?

[bitter rapids]

like the app?

[tame path]

Yes the 3d program

[bitter rapids]

nope. im horrible at it

[pine oracle]

blender is super easy

theres a tut on how load models into it in the AFOP modding discord

blender has literally saved me HOURS

[tame path]

You can import the model and textures and clone the leg/foot texture so it’s seamless

Yes so many days saved with this method lmao

[pine oracle]

is this my skin file

[pine oracle]

imagine doing ikran skins without blender...

💀

[tame path]

No

Just no

[pine oracle]

LMAO

[tame path]

💀💀💀

[bitter rapids]

Im not a modding person nor do i have the time so 😭

[pine oracle]

if its my skin file ill fix it soon, i plan to update it again soon with tailwraps and such

[bitter rapids]

The better body one?

[pine oracle]

yea

thats my one

[bitter rapids]

oh i have no idea really 😭 i never notice anything on my character

[tame path]

What mod did you download off nexus for it?

[bitter rapids]

I noticed it when i downloaded the full mangkwan set mod thing

[bitter rapids]

I noticed it more when i downloaded this one but i don't have it in the folders anymore, thats whats confusing me https://www.nexusmods.com/avatarfrontiersofpandora/mods/524

It doesn't bother me much if i put on ankle guards

[tame path]

if you downloaded this mod before I released my 4k texture mod, then yes those files are broken. I put in the description that they were not the final product and were extremely rushed/more of a test than anything.

the mangkwan set is updated as of two weeks ago with my functional textures

[bitter rapids]

o

Okay, it doesn't really bother me if i put on an ankle guard so

[tame path]

if youre messing with files from before the update, I recommend just downloading my 4k textures that are seamless head-to-toe. I was gonna work on the males this weekend but need to dogsit lol.
side note- in my mod descriptions I ask to please not edit my mod files if you don't like something about them, just tell me if there's a problem so I can fix it. i put a ton of time into them and would like that time to be respected wherever possible, thank you.

[bitter rapids]

I wasn't messing with them but i also think im just gonna stop trying to figure it out for today because i have a really bad headache, But if i do get a bigger problem ill ask you.

[brave wing]

Hello I need help with a mod. https://www.nexusmods.com/avatarfrontiersofpandora/mods/9 I've been trying to have this work but I feel like the creator didnt give enough info bc I am doing this for the first time and literally freestyled it all. I dowload reshade and in the downloading process added the 15kb file in and finished. Honestly idk what I done but nvm that. It dowloaded just as realistic reshade setup and its all it let's me do so I looked in the mod again and no idea what to do next?

That's all it says

(Ignore the fact I sent twice, sorry about that)

I thought about putting the reshade shaders in afop but whete specifically, no idea and that just cant be all since I havent really done anything about the reshade app itself

[brave wing]

Update, u played the game and it led me to some reshade settings where all were looking good but it couldn't save for some reason

[bitter rapids]

Tbh i think only the head is being affected by the mod and not the body which is weird

[solar plover]

Is this the 4k skin textures

[bitter rapids]

I fixed it anyway so

[tame path]

well i keep seeing these posts, so if you want me to actually fix it, let me know. it truly comes off like you don't want help.

[tame path]

These still look like my old textures, this is their current look. Spoilered for SFW bare body

you need to download the 4k textures. The textures you are using were in the Mangkwan pack before it was updated, and they were never the final or good-looking version. They were released as a test.

if you download the 4k texture mod, this problem will be solved.

[bitter rapids]

Did what you said, does this look better, i don't have my glasses on

[tame path]

yes those are the correct textures now lol

[bitter rapids]

YIPPEEEE

[solar plover]

I've made a mod that removes the belt and bags from the Hells Gate Veteran waistcloth, also includes a png for you to make your own recolours

https://www.nexusmods.com/avatarfrontiersofpandora/mods/558

[glossy moth]

woot! My Vortex extension reached 1k downloads \o/ 😛

[solar plover]

Congrats and also thank you for your service 🫡

[glossy moth]

heh thanks, and np, glad it has been useful

[solar plover]

I have to get around to formatting all my mods for it at some point

[glossy moth]

if there are troubles or you need some help, feel free to let me know

[solar plover]

I should be fine, it's not too hard it's just a bit tedious LOL

[glossy moth]

I see. Does it have to do with recolors/variations?

[solar plover]

Nah more of just repacking everything with file paths, up until recently it was common to just throw the mods into a zip and be done with it

[glossy moth]

I see

[solar plover]

At least I only have like 6 mods

rip the other creators

[glossy moth]

😁

[solar plover]

aka im being lazy

My new mod is formatted for it though

And any new mods I make will be as well

[glossy moth]

well, if it's just a zip with straight files without folders the user will be asked for the path, just a minor annoyance but it should work fine

hehe understandable xD

[tame path]

I’m so putting off doing this lol, I know it would make it easier for vortex users but my computer has enough files in it as it is 😂 even if they were only there momentarily I don’t know if I have the storage

[glossy moth]

😁 yeah, I have something planned to make that easier, I just haven't had a chance to work on that yet 😛

[restive sable]

does anyone think its possible to make coop more than jsut 2 players

[glossy moth]

with modding? Don't think so since it depends on the server side

[solar basin]

i didn’t know you could load models :0 could i get an invite? i’d kill to use the tut!!!

[pine oracle]

Ofc 😋

[magic harbor]

I have found a model of an unused machine gun weapon in the game files.

I've managed to replace model reference of the assault rifle, so it uses the machine gun model

Unfortunately, the Z axis alignment is broken when equipped.

But i look forward to fix this

[solar plover]

wait you can fix that?

[magic harbor]

Well, i'll test if there are any solutions

[solar plover]

Check your dms ^-^

[bitter rapids]

How would i put the tail wrap for the 4k female player mod.

[strong pilot]

Have a link to the tail wrap mod?

[bitter rapids]

I already got it working

[wooden plaza]

Can someone make a mod where we can craft gears to the max stats? I got all the mats in the highest stats but when it crafted i didnt get the max possible stats.

[mint snow]

Ig that'd start with what specifically happened

Like, if you're significantly below max, you might just need to be using nimble gatherer III
but if it's only a little low, that might be the fact that the reported numbers are a bit messed up

That is, the game acts like hunted mats are boosted by nimble gatherer, but they aren't. So any design that takes a hunted mat will have a wrong max listed

I could try to see if I can fix the UI 🤔

[fathom owl]

Hi! I’m still quite new to modding and I’ve seen really beautiful mods that replace the TAP shirts, I wanted to ask how we could keep the TAP shirts? I can’t keep it after changing into the research shirt😭

[pine oracle]

Heya, the mods will usually include a model swap for you, replacing something else with the tap top

A lot of people will replace one of the chunky RDA looking vests you can buy from raj early on

[wooden plaza]

i have been using nimbl gatherer 3 and relun fish stew. i even one shot the animals with clean kills and merciful. Hurm, if you say so maybe there is a glitch in the numbering stats. I just felt frustated i cant get it to max. I am okay with below than 5 digits of max stats but it way off obviously.

[bitter rapids]

what does this mean for a mod

Oh wait-

nvm i didn't look at it closely

[oblique swallow]

Anticipating Avatar mods- modded game breaking 12/5? I am. Starting my scheduled mod folders pull today. 2 reasons: 1-Ubi limiting modding, 2-unclear what full 3rd person will do to mods- char model even though we see 3rd person now at times. I’m pulling mods and Snowdrop loader, even though the loader has an option to disable scripts I haven’t seen much talk here about this, have noticed some players new to modding games who may not expect this to happen or that it takes time to re do mods, if at all possible. Players may be shocked when modded game won’t open or CTD after 12/5 update. And maybe get confused with how to pull all the folders created for Avatar mods. Mirage-Anvil Ubi Bordeaux 11/18 update. Anvil toolkit is still working today with some changes. AC Shadows- newest Anvil version is encrypted, pretty much locked down Ubi Quebec. Odyssey-Anvil Ubi Quebec, Valhalla-Anvil Ubi Montreal both easily modded to this day, my games are. Not as much modding history with Massive- Malmo, Sweden & Snowdrop. With Shadows locked down, I expect Ubi to do the same with Avatar which is linked to a big movie release. (I bought another Avatar + 2 DLC game minus ‘Ashes’ for my PS5 Pro (2nd Ubi account) in case not happy with what Ashes does to base game and to replay Sky Breaker, Spires not included in 12/5 NG+) Guerrilla Games-Sony locked down Forbidden West relative to Zero Dawn for mods. Waiting a few months before I remod Fallout 4 until the 3 updates are finished. Still haven’t remodded CP 2077 after the fix for the latest patch, have 398 mods running in CP, as its take a good day +. Any way, your thoughts? And big thanks for all your effort and care for the Avatar inventory tracking, I find it very useful.

[fathom owl]

Thank you so much!

[mint snow]

Tbh I don't think they'd bother. If anything stops working, my first assumption would just be that they shuffled some directories around, and even that I doubt they'd bother with. Afop very much seems to be a "pile the new on without clearing the old", so to speak.

I think it's a good call to remove or disable mods before large updates, though

We were actually told here that we could talk modding as long as it didn't violate the general NSFW and datamining rules, so imo any action taken to intentionally prevent what we've been doing would come as a surprise and a reversal

Doesn't help that their terms say slightly different things in different places, and that fair use is so vague. I end up adding a little dance to all my mods where I say that their presence on the Internet isn't directing money away from Ubisoft

[marsh reef]

I’ve not had any issues with either of the first two dlcs or game updates in general..

[rotund briar]

Can anyone help me I downloaded a mod but when I click rebel chest guard it doesnt let me wear the mod

[pine oracle]

Did you install the right version of the mod?

There’s one for the male body

And another for the female body

[rotund briar]

Yeah

I did

[pine oracle]

Then it’s going to be something to do with the graphobject not being in the right place

Go to blue/graph objects/gear

g_res_torso_part_armor_t3_00_f.mgraphobject should be in there, if it’s not, you need to move it there

[rotund briar]

When I click blue the only thing that i see is baked

[pine oracle]

That’s your issue then

Download the mod again

Open the mods blue folder

Then move the graph objects folder into your current blue folder

[rotund briar]

It worked!!

But there’s those patches

[pine oracle]

These patches are part of the skin, if you want to get rid of those, you need to download a skin mod - there’s a few on nexus

[cinder bloom]

i downloaded some mods and now i cant equip any weapons.

[restive prawn]

@glossy moth you’re online and you’re smart, do you know what’s going on with this

[glossy moth]

👀 yeah but not for long lol

[glossy moth]

well, what mods you did?

[bitter rapids]

Are you 100% you took out biolum and realism

[cinder bloom]

reshade, biolum and realism, better biolum, ikran biolum alternate v2.

pretty sure but i can only imagine i missed something

becasue its still broken

im about to go nuclear

[bitter rapids]

Calm down

[bitter rapids]

@glossy moth

[glossy moth]

huh?

[bitter rapids]

They downloaded these mods

[cinder bloom]

^

[glossy moth]

yeah I saw it 😄

when you say you can't equip any weapon, do you get some error or stuff just doesn't work?

[cinder bloom]

i click 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 and also open the weapon wheel and select them and nothing happens.

[glossy moth]

and I don't see how any of those mods would interfere with weapons 🤔

[cinder bloom]

thats why im so confused

[bitter rapids]

Have you downloaded any other mod, like previous mods before those ones or are those your first

[cinder bloom]

these are my first mods

[glossy moth]

ok first of all, let's go by elimination. Close the game if you still have it running, then rename the reshade dll to anything else (I suppose it would be dxgi.dll), then restar the game and check if stuff works

ReShade can have some keybind stuff so it might be interfering with something

[cinder bloom]

i removed all the mod files i could find and uninstalled reshade.

so there are nmot reshade.dll files left

[glossy moth]

hmm ok, and game is still broken?

[cinder bloom]

yes

[glossy moth]

do you still have a blue folder?

[cinder bloom]

no

[glossy moth]

do you still have a version.dll file?

[cinder bloom]

no removed that too as that was the modloader

i have it but its not in the AFOP folder

[glossy moth]

ok sure, just checking

[cinder bloom]

im straight up about to just reinstall but that doesnt fix the problem of the mods breaking

i want to use the mods

[glossy moth]

what launcher you run the game from (Steam, Ubi Connect etc)?

[cinder bloom]

steam

already verified integrity through steam

[glossy moth]

well, maybe it's not the mods breaking it

after you removed the mods?

[cinder bloom]

not sure i could try again but idk if that would really help.

so thats reverifying right now

we will see what happens then

[glossy moth]

ok

[cinder bloom]

if i had more time id literally uninstall, reinstall and then install the modloader, run the game, if it works, install each mod 1 at a time until it breaks.

that would weed out the one

but i dont got that time

[glossy moth]

that's a good approach yeah

no need to uninstall though

but installing stuff one by one would help

[cinder bloom]

there is because maybe i somehow missed a mod folder or something

or maybe i removed something i shouldnt have

uninstalling and resinstalling would ensure the game works

[glossy moth]

if you removed what you shouldn't the Verify Files thing would restore it

[cinder bloom]

and is unaltered by mods

yeah but its still broken

so i dont think thats the issue

[glossy moth]

also mods are all inside a single folder: blue (with a few exceptions)

[cinder bloom]

we will see after this verification is done

heres my AFOP folder

[glossy moth]

Verify File Integrity is basically like reinstalling it, but just for whatever is missing/broken

[cinder bloom]

yeah but if theres a mod i missed still there it wont get rid of it

so uninstalling would nuke it all

and ensure its all fixed

[glossy moth]

yeah but it seems you removed them, unless the ones you did uses the dlc1 or dlc2 folder, but there are only a handful ones that does

[cinder bloom]

yeah still broken

verifying didnt work

im about to nuke it

theyre all visual mods

so idk why theyd use the dlc folders

[glossy moth]

can you make a vid showing the issue?

[cinder bloom]

i can hop into vc if you want

and stream

[glossy moth]

some ikran skins or stuff dlc exclusive uses those "dlc" folders

ok, but I can't listen and talk in voice though but I could see it yes

[cinder bloom]

ok join a vc and ill hop in

[tame path]

this isn't a mod issue, its a game bug. I ran into it on xbox. just keep opening/closing the game and it'll eventually go away

[tame path]

if a mod alters the texture of DLC gear or ikran, it goes in a DLC folder. the main game items are seperate

[cinder bloom]

we figured it outsort of

the game is blocking me from taking my weapons out near camps

which its never done before

i can equip them when i move away form the camps

[bitter rapids]

Maybe you can report to ubisoft support

[cinder bloom]

only the main camps though it seems

the smaller camps seem fine

[bitter rapids]

Which camps

[cinder bloom]

thats so stupid

[bitter rapids]

What map are you on

[cinder bloom]

figuring that out now

so far its the heartlands map

[bitter rapids]

.

Which camp are you walking into (i would spoiler it by doing || on both sides)

[cinder bloom]

its only the heartlands map and seemingly only the main big camp.

[bitter rapids]

.

[cinder bloom]

is that one blocked from equiping weapons or something?

[bitter rapids]

The main camp doesn't let you take out weapons sinces it a "safe" camp

[cinder bloom]

wow

[glossy moth]

there we go 😄

[bitter rapids]

So you don't scare the kids and make them think somethings gonna happen

[cinder bloom]

how have i never noticed that before.......

i swear i have

thats insane.....

appreciate it

[glossy moth]

I haven't played that DLC yet then I wouldn't never know (don't worry, it didn't spoil me) 😛

[cinder bloom]

well if its a safe camp creatures shouldnt be able to just walk in

i had a collosus walk in and attack me

i was gonna let it just kill me to see if that was the issues

then i just tried to fly away on the ikran so i could die form fall damage

and then the weapon equiped

thanks guys

[glossy moth]

np, glad you got it figured out

[strong pilot]

They shouldn't, that's probably been a bug
Source: creatures can't enter even the small camps in main map

[cinder bloom]

Interesting. I just don’t know how I missed noticing the main sky breaker camp was a safe zone.

I swear I was able to equip weapons there before but I guess not.

[oblique swallow]

Thank you

[glossy moth]

I have seen it happen though. Once I saw those panther ones (forgot the name) follow a direhorse up to a dozen steps from a camp

[strong pilot]

Oh, interesting! I always have them stop at the edges of the camp and kinda run further and then come back

[cloud cedar]

can u help me again? i just updated the game and it turned blurry again😭

[cloud cedar]

on nv its just a bug

[strong pilot]

Mods in the gameplay (blue > gameplay) folder seem to break the game after the 3rd person update

If your game doesn't start, and instead just shows a black screen for a few seconds at startup, this might be your issue - just rename or delete the "gameplay" folder and you should be good to go!

[glossy moth]

one exception though: https://www.nexusmods.com/avatarfrontiersofpandora/mods/24 seems to work fine

[viral wyvern]

Did anyone ever figure out how to remove the back flap from waistcloths?

[pine oracle]

you have to retexture each individual waistcloth (some of which dont like to erase properly and they turn black instead)

[viral wyvern]

No published mods for it?

[wooden plaza]

the game is crashing. I turn off the Snowdrop modloader and can play for a while but it keep crashing. Do i need to delete all the mods folder?

[tame path]

if you have a gameplay folder in your blue folder, disable that. it seems to be the current problem for most

[pine oracle]

not at the moment i'd guess

have a look

[glossy moth]

if you just disable the modloader no need to do anything with the folder I guess, since the game will just ignore it without the modloader

[dreamy merlin]

Ikran skins still seem to work thankfully, despite being in the gameplay folder

[sharp stream]

Did the update break mods?

I'm crashing

[restive prawn]

yes

scroll up a bit to see which ones

[sharp stream]

neat thanks!

retextures working alright? like ikran skins and clothing?

[restive prawn]

from what ive seen yes

[sharp stream]

yaay

[lost pine]

They dont work for me

[lost pine]

i found the problem, at least for me, if u have these two folders in the gameplay folder then the game wont start up

[dusky temple]

im glad that its not cosmetic stuff thats messing up the game at least 😭

[lost pine]

same i have too many cosmetic mods i cant go back to vanilla

[dusky temple]

me personally i had those speed increase and carrying capacity mods downloaded bc i was extremely late game

so like. not a terrible loss to need to disable my gameplay folder

but unfortunate

[lost pine]

yea i enjoyed the extra speed

but id gladly it be that instead of the skins

[dusky temple]

yeah

its only a matter of time till someone stumbles upon some kind of fix 😭😭 this game has one of the most perseverant modding communities ive ever seen

[mint snow]

I already fixed the one for OOB; hopefully the rest will just be a matter of redoing changes within files

[marsh reef]

The modloader probably needs an update, since it did last time we had a big update to the game..

[mint snow]

The author did ask us how it is, and it does seem to be functioning still

[dusky temple]

yeah i havent had problems with the modloader
as soon as i renamed my gameplay file to disable it my games been working fine

[floral verge]

im trying to download the neytiris metkayina modpack and im so confused 😭😭 i know its done something cuz some outfits show the tap shirt underneath but it hasnt actually changed. any ideas? 😭

[tardy gazelle]

Did you download the Ultimate mod loader too?

[floral verge]

yeah ive downloaded that and got some other mods working, im just confused on the whole changing different file names

the waistcloth recolour did work, just not the top

[tame path]

did you change the file name?

you need to follow the pathing and remove the number from the color you want

[tame path]

The waistcloth works because i set it up to work by default, the top just needs the name change

[floral verge]

ooohh okayy cool im just not sure how to change the colour of it

ive got it to only change one top but still not too sure on colours 😭 afop files are far more complex than other ones ive messed with

[tame path]

so the files are named 'g_tap_torso_base_01_f_d' (female). This is the working file name for the tap top, so I added numbers to the rest to disable them so they don't work. The number in the name needs to be removed so it is the default file name, this is what activates the file and tells the game something is different

the males' version just doesn't have the 'f' in it

follow the path blue/baked/characterart/gear/tap/torso/base/g_tap_torso_base_01/textures

[floral verge]

ooooh okay thank you ❤️❤️

[glossy moth]

and my extension just reached 1k unique downloads 🥳 😛

[jaunty quest]

Hey guys, I’m sure you get a lot of these messages, but I’m trying to add a few mods to my game. I don’t quite understand how to do it. Any help?

[restive prawn]

Check out #1391504244494045366 and https://discord.com/channels/846716389037178901/1434732446242574356 , they’re two different ways of installing mods. If you still have questions, come back to this thread!

[jaunty quest]

Thanks!

[mint snow]

@undone lichen do you wanna send some pictures of what your mod folders look like?

[undone lichen]

what do you wanna see?

[mint snow]

hmm
ok well first are you using vortex

[undone lichen]

nah

[mint snow]

ok that makes this easier for me lol, go to where the bone top image is and show me the file path at the top

[undone lichen]

this?

[mint snow]

yep perfect
okay since you say the tap shirt is showing up normally, we know that's not the issue.. lemme chekc something rq

[undone lichen]

yeah it replaces the tap shirt but the arm guards are supposed to be black and theyre not and the rainforest guardien waist is just the tap pants that also didnt get replaced

atp i think the mod is only for the top and not the other 2 even tho its included in the picture

[mint snow]

ohh wait sorry I was looking at the wrong picture

so the top is workign though?

[undone lichen]

yes

[mint snow]

hm that author has that armguard in like all their pictures, could be worth leaving a comment asking if they'd publish?

[undone lichen]

just did

[undone lichen]

do yk of any other cool outift mods for femals?

[mint snow]

oh there's a ton
you're really best off just scrolling nexus

could filter by clothing and gear, but we just got tags recently and I know a lot of people haven't organized theirs out of "miscellaneous"

[undone lichen]

alr thx

[undone lichen]

one more question theres another mod im trying to install but i dont understand hot to pick the colour i want

https://www.nexusmods.com/avatarfrontiersofpandora/mods/426?tab=description

[mint snow]

ok, it looks like you should go into where all the images are and remove the number after _d on the one you want

[tame path]

you need to follow the file paths listed in the file preview and remove the number from the end of the file name. This is also in the mod description.

[timber field]

Ah here it is

[timber field]

If I have to manually install a file, which file do I sort it under under my afop stuff?

[glossy moth]

it depends on the file? Which one is it?

[serene parrot]

is there a mod to make eyelashes white?

[solar plover]

yeah its one of the eyelashes mod, mightve been one from tseyks? its in the files

[serene parrot]

alright ty!!

[tardy gazelle]

Hey all. My question is that I could use the game without mods for 3 hours now. So I came to a decision where I have to say maybe the mods causes my crash problem. How is it possible that others can use mods, while I can't?

[restive prawn]

Gameplay mods have been causing issues since the update I believe

[tardy gazelle]

Maybe I should try to just load some, and see if they crash the game?

[glossy moth]

that's a good option yeah

did you install them manually or used Vortex?

[tardy gazelle]

I always installed them manually, but maybe I should re-download them again and make a brand new blue folder. I used the same blue folder for maybe 1 year now.

I always just dropped it into the game when I re-installed my computer

[glossy moth]

I see. Well a thing to try is renaming the "gameplay" folder inside "blue", that's the one known to be causing issues

but sure, if you want to start clean you can do that, just don't install any that uses the "gameplay" folder for now

[tardy gazelle]

and what is, if I deleted the whole gameplay folder? Maybe that was a bad decision?

[glossy moth]

although I have found an exception to that. I have one that uses that folder and is working just fine

[tardy gazelle]

oh I see, I will try that, thank you

I think I start it all over, I know what mods the most important, I will pray now to work. xD

[glossy moth]

not really, you just might end with partial mods (remaint files from a mod spread at other folders) but I don't see it causing issues

yeah, you can just go clean and reinstall them and put any that uses "gameplay" folder on hold for now

[tardy gazelle]

thank you very much 🙂

[stark crater]

Still new to the game, and have a general question. Apologies if it's been asked before.

Is Nexus the main/only place for mods?

I play a few other games where mods are spread all around 10 different sites like Nexus, Tumblr, Twitter, etc

[restive prawn]

Nexus is the main place, and its okay to ask questions lol

Theres another site but its less fun and less nice

[stark crater]

I'll probably stick to Nexus then, but which is the other site? You can DM if it's preferred not to talk about it.

[restive prawn]

no idea whta the other site it called, i know that i dont like it lmao

[stark crater]

Gotcha, gotcha

I've done my time in Sims and FFXIV modding communities, so I'm familiar with Not Fun And Not Nice lmao

[restive prawn]

sims has too many different sites for mods 😔

[stark crater]

Yeahhhh

XIV does too, there's 3 sites, plus Tumblr, Twitter, Discord, Kofi, Patreon, etc.

[restive prawn]

So for installing afop mods, theres 2 main methods, manual - #1391504244494045366 and fancy vortex which for some reason i never have the thread link to >:(

https://discord.com/channels/846716389037178901/1434732446242574356 aha

manual is what im used to but vortex is supposed to be easier

[strong pilot]

There's (or at least was) also one that copied people's mods from Nexus without permission, and if the description for example said not to reupload or reuse the mod, whoever put the mods up there removed that part of it

Something called avatarmods possibly, just avoid that site (we don't know if it's safe)

[stark crater]

Ew, then yeah, I'll avoid it.

[jaunty quest]

Can someone explain to me the blue folder thing please. Not too tech savvy

And “extracting” the mod, what does that mean

[serene parrot]

im not able to find any white ones, theyre all black :((

[restive prawn]

It’s the folder that holds all the sub folders for mods

[tame path]

The blue folder is a folder you create in your AFOP game directory to hold the mods. Extracting a mod is when you download a ZIP file off of Nexus and right click-> ‘extract all’ to unzip and access the files

[serene parrot]

does anyone know how i can get white eyelashes for my navi??

[tame path]

A lot of mods have a blue folder premade for you so you don’t have to make the paths yourself, but still double check the description of each mod for download instructions just in case

[tame path]

Off the top of my head, I think the albino mod has white lashes. Not 100% sure though, I’m not home at the moment

[serene parrot]

i can check ty ^^

[jaunty quest]

Thanks for the reply. For example, the better bioluminescent mod it says this

[tame path]

Just look on nexus, or if you don’t find any, open the file you download from one that has not-white lashes and change the brightness/luminosity until they are white

[serene parrot]

ill see if i can do that!! i use the cluster ones and like them alot

[jaunty quest]

What’s it mean to unzip the file

(Coming from a ps5, dont have much computer experience)

[serene parrot]

just now realizing i have no idea how to do that LOL

[pine oracle]

unzip just means extracting the folders - you right click the zipped file(this is the one you get from downloading the mod), simply extract all, then click ok and itll 'unzip' your folder

itll then have a normal folder with the same name, you open that one up and inside will usually be the 'blue' folder, which you just move into your games directory

in the picture you sent, it shows you how to find the game directory if you dont know how ^^

[serene parrot]

@pine oracle do your cluster eyelashes work with albino mods?

[pine oracle]

it should work with them - the albino mods ive seen only edit the skin texture and colour files, so should be alright

[serene parrot]

is there any way to make them white? i’m still sort of new to modding this game

[pine oracle]

not in game but i can recolour them for you

[serene parrot]

aaa tysm!

The clusters are my favorite and i think they’d look pretty with an albino navi

[pine oracle]

put the 3 '.dds' files here: AFOP\blue\baked\characterart\player\head\shared\eyes

[serene parrot]

tysm 🥹 🫶

[timber field]

Alright so I have everything sorted out with vortex but it’s making my game just. Not function

I read anything using the gameplay file isn’t working?

[pine oracle]

for the most part yeah, this is the case - emote anywhere and the replace cosmetic headgear hairstyles with chosen hairstyles seem to work ok

the folders within gameplay with a 1 in the name seem to be causing crashing for me so i just renamed them with a 1 on the end to disable them

[timber field]

Damn

Just when I was getting into modding this thing, I have to sit and wait for things to get patched up

[stark crater]

Hope this is okay to ask, but. What sets of upscales are folks using for both the body and face? I've poked the Nexus, and seem to only find body texture upscales and face upscales separately / by different creators / etc. I may be overlooking something or misreading, though

[tame path]

my mod has both body and face files, so does tseyks' and getthatblue's. most will say 'body texture' when it means the WHOLE body, not just the literal sense

[stark crater]

Omg, I THOUGHT I might be misunderstanding, haha. Thank you for clearing that up! I'm familiar with the other two, which one is yours?

Oh wait, I literally just found it, lol.

[tame path]

lol, I only have the female up rn but im actually about to start working on finishing the males

[stark crater]

👀 I'll look forward to it, then!

[sharp stream]

Is there any sort of free camera plugin/mod?

It'd be really useful for a video project i'm working on

[solar plover]

not anymore unfortunately

afaik the new update broke it

[sharp stream]

What was it called though?

[tardy gazelle]

Does anybody can help where can I get the tap shirt for a mod? I don't have that in-game.

[serene parrot]

wondering the same thing

[pine oracle]

the tap shirt retexures usually include a model swap for you - so they will replace one of the RDA vests (for example) with the tap top

[pine oracle]

^

[tardy gazelle]

https://www.nexusmods.com/avatarfrontiersofpandora/mods/555 - I want to use this one. But the creator wrote in the posts, that it has to replace the TAP shirt. I dont have that, and any vests or something I tried, I still dont see the number 3 mod on my character.

maybe I'm too noob or I don't know. xD

[serene parrot]

i’ve been trying to figure this out too 😭😭

i’ve deleted the mod countless times and downloaded it over and over but it still won’t show

[pine oracle]

okay that specific mod doesnt have a model swap for the player for some reason?

one sec, i can get one rq

if you move the 'g_res_torso_part_armor_t3_00_f' file to blue\graph objects\gear in your afop folder, it'll work - the mod creator has only created the top for the fem body, so if you're looking to use it on the masc, it wont work 😔 (this model swap replaces the rebel chest guard you can get early on from raj)

[serene parrot]

ur a lifesaver tseyks 🥹 i’ll lyk if it works for me when im on later

[tardy gazelle]

tyyyyyyy tseyks ♥

[ember basin]

@tame path hello!

I'm having a bit of an issue with "applying" the mod

[tardy gazelle]

its not good

its tha tap shirt now, not the modded one xD

[nova plank]

Have you added the shirt you want to the correct path

[ember basin]

the "blue" folder should be the 4k texture

[tardy gazelle]

that should be in blue\graph objects\gear as well? I added the shirt into the path where nexusmods wrote

but now the rebel chest is swapped by TAp, not the Neytiri's war top, maybe I f*cked up something?

@pine oracle xD What can I do now? What did I do wrong?

Oh I missunderstood something, now I know what I should do, omg

No I put it in the correct way, then I dont get it O.O

[tame path]

What mod?

[ember basin]

4K female texture

[tame path]

You need to follow the file paths listed in the file preview on Nexus (blue/baked/characterart/npc/default/body/etc if I remember correctly, at work rn) and remove the type tags on the files. The parenthesis and everything inside them need to be removed for it to work.

[ember basin]

Hi! Do you mean the .dds?

sorry this is my very first modding experience with afop so im really green lol

[tame path]

Yep! There’s two types you need to change, one for the base texture (ends with _d) and one for the roughness/skin texture (ends with _n)

No worries, you’re already doing great lol

[ember basin]

so i need to actually go into the game files and change the default textures?

[tame path]

No, just the names of them

[ember basin]

oh i get it

i think

[tame path]

The working names are rnf_body_01_f_d and rnf_body_01_f_n

[ember basin]

oh ye. Supposed to do this for both player and npc folder?

[tame path]

When things are added to or removed from file names, the game sets them to default because it doesn’t know how to read them. That’s why I put the type tags so you can easily swap between whichever you want

[tame path]

No, only this folder. NPCs and players share textures

[ember basin]

oh ok ok

thanks!

i get it now

❤️

[tame path]

No problem! Super easy once you get the hang of it

[ember basin]

should look like this right?

I selected the modified ones

On the head I didn't, see anything to delete

[tame path]

Perfect!

[ember basin]

Time to make some great picks!

Omg yes its working! Thank u so much @tame path

[tame path]

Just a heads up I do plan on updating the textures so just keep an eye out lol

[ember basin]

what will be the addition?

Fully modeled? lmaooo

https://tenor.com/view/half-life-fans-fully-modeled-alyx-vance-gif-22589738

shes so beautiful thank u so much

[tame path]

I’ll be updating the tail wrap, maybe the undies too. Not very happy with them anymore now that I’ve finished the male textures and did those better 😂

[ember basin]

Oh btw i wanted to ask

Im downloading a bioluminescence mod and eyelashes mod

Will that interfere with the mod if its not using the same fodlers and such?

[dreamy merlin]

Those should all be compatible together

[ember basin]

great

man i didnt know the modding community was this good in here lol

ik that ubi games dont really get mods but these are great!

[tame path]

Safety officer is correct, the stripes and biolum are (thankfully) seperate files so they’re all compatible. The only mod I know of with stripes and bio included that is NOT compatible is Neytiri’s 4k mod, because it also edits the base textures that I do

[ember basin]

she does no longer pount...

no wait that's genuinely a different mouth shape lol what did i do...

[mint snow]

part of the idle

[ember basin]

Oh lol

[acoustic loom]

has anyone figured out if its something in the gameplay file path that causes the game to crash now? because i miss my pretty ikran skins, but my game hasnt crashed since i disabled the whole gameplay path

[ember basin]

oh ur right lol

[dreamy merlin]

Ikran skins work

[lost pine]

I recommend deleting/moving all folders within the gameplay file except the one that holds your ikran skins, it should fix the problem and keep your modded ikran skins

I had 2 mods that were in folders "mounting" and "spawning" that made the game unable to run, but removing those fixed it, incase you happen to have the extra speed/stam boost mod for the ikran

[ember basin]

had the same exact issue

[acoustic loom]

I’ll try that, thanks! it’s been impossible to play, I get like 10 minutes max before it crashes randomly lol

[strong pilot]

Imo renaming is the best option, it does the same and that way the files still keep their place if you later wanna figure out which don't work (in case there's more than 1 in the gameplay folder)

[strong pilot]

That unfortunately might be a bug that's not related to mods at all

The behavior we've seen with incompatible mods is that the game won't even start

[acoustic loom]

Possibly, I had this problem when I first got the game after it came out, can’t remember what I did but I had to dig deep into some forums to figure out why. Fixed it and haven’t had this problem at all until the update

I think I had to end up fixing a BIOS setting or something it was wild

[strong pilot]

There's been lots of people whose game's started crashing, and they're on all platforms-

[acoustic loom]

interesting..

it runs completely fine, no lag spikes, PC runs fine, then it all just shuts down, it’s so strange

[strong pilot]

Yup, sounds similar to what I've heard others got

[timber field]

I couldn’t get my skin to work

[fleet raptor]

Does anyone know which of these mods would be conisdered to be causing crashes or interfering with the afop game?

[delicate rivet]

The movie pandora one, but it was updated so just delete the old version and redownload

[fleet raptor]

Thank you so much. 😼 🙏

[delicate rivet]

Nws!

[fleet raptor]

Wait my game crashed again but I got to play for about like 10 minutes, is there any more mods or is that all? Thank you for all of your help btw. 😁

[delicate rivet]

There are more mods that crash the game( the gameplay ones) but you dont have them so idk

Or Im missing smth

[fleet raptor]

ok maybe its my ingame settings, ill have to check, tysm again 😼 🙏

[leaden pasture]

https://www.nexusmods.com/avatarfrontiersofpandora/mods/434

Having trouble getting this mod to work if anyone can assist me

[strong pilot]

Afaik those crashes aren't caused by mods

They happen on all platforms. Plus in the cases of incompatible mods we've seen thr game simply won't even load

[stark crater]

I just saw your male textures and they're gorgeous, thank you so much for your hard work! 🙏

[tame path]

I just uploaded that thank you lol! I do my best

[stark crater]

Oh you sure did like 4 minutes ago LMAO

I promise I wasn't stalking, just hilariously good timing

[tame path]

XD y'all are quick lmao

[stark crater]

Literally just woke up and was checking chat and saw that chat message, I had no idea it was JUST uploaded

I'm hyped though, I was holding off on using your female textures until the male ones were done, so 👏

[tame path]

apparently a lot of people were lmao

[stark crater]

Also: This will have the same neck seam issue on male NPCs that the female one does, I assume?

[lost pine]

It is unless you want your ikran modded skins, which almost everyone does

[cedar mural]

my game still wont work even tho i disabled my gameplay mods 😔

[tame path]

yes, I still need to find the rest of those NPC files. It almost seems like they use the normals for the player face detail presets but i'm not sure that's right

Also elder NPCs have not been touched yet

[tardy gazelle]

For me the same happened. Then I deleted the ehole game and ubisoft launcher, re-downloaded everything, and restarted my blue folder from 0.
Yesterday and on monday I could play for houuuurs.
So the game so far works to me now, but I still had a serious lag at one point yesterday, I thought the game will close again, but it didn't.
I want to try to use shaders too, but I think I will wait with them until the next fix patch.

[cedar mural]

i literally just did the same, deleted my whole blue folder and manually put back every mod while checking if the game works and it does! it was a pain but at least my girl looks pretty now :P

[tardy gazelle]

I'm happy the problem solved. 😊

[strong pilot]

I mean it like

1. rename "blue"
2. if the game works normally, name blue back and rename all the subfolders, then check one by one which work and which don't by naming them
3. for the ones that don't work, name them back to original and rename the subfolders
4. Keep going until you know the exact files that break the game

[tardy gazelle]

Hello! Just a quick question, what could be the reason that this mod doesnt work? https://www.nexusmods.com/avatarfrontiersofpandora/mods/178?tab=description

Everything is in the right folder as the creator said.

[glossy moth]

can you show the folder where the mod files are?

[tardy gazelle]

I'll send you a private message with the screens if thats okey.

[glossy moth]

sure, but you can send it here though

[tardy gazelle]

Okey, then here, so the first pic of the graph objects:

And cus:

maybe what the cus folder contains, I should put them inside the custom folder?

and not the whole cus_92 folder

I'm not sure

[glossy moth]

hmm, that's correct according the instructions yeah 🤔 Is it the only mod you have?

[tardy gazelle]

No, I have many mods, but this one I just installed, everything works except this one

[glossy moth]

I guess the path should be like this yes ...blue\baked\characterart\npc\custom\cus_92\textures\...

[tardy gazelle]

so the textures folder will be empty, or it will contains the cus_92 folder's items?

[glossy moth]

no, the .dds files should go into "textures"

e.g ...\blue\baked\characterart\npc\custom\cus_92\textures\cus_92_braid_d.dds

[tardy gazelle]

oooh, so the ones which are inside the gear right now, if I get it well

[glossy moth]

the others go into "gear" yes, like ...\blue\graph objects\gear\g_utility_torso_01.juice

[tardy gazelle]

I just see I dint opened the whole folder:

[glossy moth]

according the instructions, although something feels off about that "gear" folder (or me not being too familiar with it xD )

[glossy moth]

np

[tardy gazelle]

I will check the version one if that works, if not, then I wont use a necklace xD

[glossy moth]

hmm, stuff looks right, I can't point what could be wrong there 😣

[tardy gazelle]

:c

yeah, I blinked fast too when I saw it doesnt appear in-game lmao

[glossy moth]

ohh wait. @pine oracle is the author, maybe they can help 😛 (sorry for the ping xD )

[tardy gazelle]

awh

D:

[glossy moth]

yeah, let's hope someone else can come in and have some idea

[tardy gazelle]

Ty 🙂

[glossy moth]

np, sorry I couldn't help more

[tardy gazelle]

version 1 is working

xD

I will stay with it bcuz that matches better with the top's ropes what I use

[glossy moth]

ah, good then xD

[pine oracle]

Sorry, i just woke up 😭

now checking it, the model swap is working still for me so its not been broken in the update

just gonna check the textures

okay yea textures are still working too

[pine oracle]

Your paths all look right from the screenshots here - assuming you've tried restarting your game? (on the rare occasion that an npc has been loaded wearing the item we're changing, it doesnt refresh without a restart)

[tardy gazelle]

Yes, I restarted the game after dropping the files into the path. But it still didn't work, interesting. D: - I use version 1 now, it works, but with the same path. I didn't understand what happened, maybe my PC doesn't want the truth. ._. Ty tseyks! ☺♥

[magic agate]

You don't need to re download the game, delete the blue folder , hit the repair to verify the game and either turn off or restart the pc, happened to me too and It started working after a shut down of the pc

[sharp stream]

Is there a mod that synchronizes the game's time with IRL time? So like midnight for me is midnight in the game?

[random sundial]

Ok but thats such a cool concept i also wanna know

[sharp stream]

exactly it's like booting up into an avatar body throughout the day LOL

[pine oracle]

Messed around with this idea a while ago, but skipping time at a fire still only skips the default amount (like 2 minutes or something) so skipping to day or night is basically impossible (even in photomode)

I couldn’t get campfire timings or anything to change so

[stark crater]

Could someone let me know if I'm doing something wrong here? There's an alternate file in this mod to put it on the Spinner Bracelet, but when I download the file, it's empty. Like there's a folder in there, but there's no files inside it. I can't tell if it's Nexus corrupting the download or something.

https://www.nexusmods.com/avatarfrontiersofpandora/mods/494

[solar plover]

Nexus appears to be a goofin atm

[stark crater]

Okay good, glad it's not just me

[robust kestrel]

I need to learn how to make an ikran skin because I really want an opalescent ikran :3

[stark crater]

Oh also, would someone DM me the link to the modding Discord? Trying to figure out how to do some minor edits myself haha

[magic agate]

Heyo, what's the import setup for the textures of the body ?

[crisp berry]

I'd really like to hide the crossbow from the Spires DLC - it gets in the way of screenshots of ikran patterns. There seems to be no way to unequip it in game except to NG+ and never progress the Spires quests. Would a mode be able to either hide the crossbow entirely, or force unequip it?

[restive prawn]

There’s a mod that hides it on nexus. I can find the link later, otherwise it’s probably named crossbow or something similar. I think tsekys might’ve made it?

[lost pine]

https://www.nexusmods.com/avatarfrontiersofpandora/mods/136

theres also one that removes the flares

[crisp berry]

Awesome, thanks - I'll check them out! Definitely want to remove the flares as well

[floral verge]

can i get the link to the modding server? i rlly want to learn some stuff :3

[restive prawn]

Yep I can dm it to you!

Sent!

[floral verge]

thanks!!

[strong pilot]

Tbh I def need that one

I always think about it when taking pictures on ikran, but keep forgetting to actually get it xD

I didn't have any mods (except for 2 ikran designs I worked on) until quite recently, and all I now do are just so I could see my bf correctly in co-op (though better biolum is nice to have anyway)

[lost pine]

https://www.nexusmods.com/avatarfrontiersofpandora/mods/137 here it is if youre struggling to find it

[strong pilot]

I'll probably forget about it by the time I'm on my PC LMAO

I'm currently starting the process of moving all my art files from PC and laptop to a USB stick so I have them all in one place

[floral verge]

how would i go about removing mods from the game? do i delete the entire blue folder or is there another way to do it?

cuz i kinda wanna start fresh :3

[lost pine]

hm, something i do is just create a seconf folder to hold mods i want to 'turn off' for a bit, but im unsure which folders to move for you so someone else has to assist with that ^^'

[strong pilot]

I'd just rename the blue folder to something so you can always go back if you want to, or easily check which mods you had

I'd go with blue1, as it's easy etc

[floral verge]

awesome thank you 💞

[lost pine]

kxarmi to the rescue

[crisp berry]

I want to try the two mods for removing the crossbow and flares, but I'm worried about damaging my saves - is it just the savegames<user>\4740 folder that needs backing up? Or somewhere else?

[strong pilot]

I don't know about that, but what I can tell is that those mods are purely visual, and will only affect the visuals (the files literally cannot do anything else, there's no text files or anything). The only cases we know of mods affecting the game in any way are when some other types of mods got old with the latest update, and prevented the game from starting due to containing code that didn't work anymore (and that was fixed by removing the mods so that the game'd read the correct files)

[mint snow]

yep, anything goes funky you just yeet the mods and relaunch
and the vast majority of published stuff won't go funky

[oblique swallow]

For UbiConnect, only folder 4740. One save for each of the 4 save slots. I back up every game Saves to external monthly. Link below to UBi for all PC platforms save locations. Interval Back up copy of saves is good practice for all games being modded. My experience with crossbow and flare is they will not damage your saves by removing and reinstalling. Recent ex: pulled total blue folder before 2.0, played game, generated new save w/o mods prior 2.0 install. Reinstalled my total Blue folder on base save, played game with no crashes as I play no game changing 'gameplay' mods. NG+ also working with all my previous mods. There is also a good functional Ikran saddle minimizer mod from a knowledgeable modder. https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/help/avatar-frontiers-of-pandora/gameplay/article/managing-your-saved-games-in-avatar-frontiers-of-pandora/000106032

[crisp berry]

It's weird - that folder only shows two saves, though I have 3 - two normal, and one NG+

I saw the minimal saddle one - is there one to correct the foot position for ikran riding? Once you play Spires, it seems to force wider foot position, looks especially weird if you use cosmetics to show no saddle (I prefer my ikran with no gear at all)

[mint snow]

not right now that's why I made the saddle one 😭
as soon as you equip an armor saddle in spires, the game never lets you ride in the bareback position

Reported over a year ago....

[crisp berry]

Even if you entirely unequip the saddle?

[mint snow]

all the controls on individual presets for posing seem right; it's like the spires saddles get pose priority or something

yes

[crisp berry]

At least in NG+, the foot position is currently respecting no saddle equipped. And if I never start Spires... bah. To be fussy for ikran screenshots, next time I'll just stockpile all the Spires harvestables and not start that DLC as long as possible

[mint snow]

dang does ng+ take away ikran armor too?
anyway. I'm also annoyed by how much stuff Spires forces onto the ikran. I didn't want floating feet either though, so at very least I decided to have as little saddle as possible

[prisma sky]

Hey, anyone know why this hair mod is creating this weird texture..?
This only appears on my NG+ save
https://www.nexusmods.com/avatarfrontiersofpandora/mods/374?tab=description

[river hornet]

same with nor's hair after the ng+ update

[crisp berry]

I'm not 100% sure. I got the Rookery in NG+ and opened the Ikran screen to put her pattern back to normal (Shade Hunter). At that time, it seemed to reequip all the Spires stuff which I didn't want in screenshots, so I quit back to main menu. When I reloaded, the Ikran tab of the menu was gone, back to just a sub section of the Character screen, and the Spires stuff is unequipable for now

[mint snow]

Wow

So significantly less ng+ than one might expect

[robust kestrel]

Dream ikran 🫶 i colored the base :3

I wanna attempt it one day

[fleet raptor]

anyone know why this is happening?

[pine oracle]

this is a new bug that came with the ng+ update unfortunately, nothing to do with modding

ubisoft have said they aim to fix things with the dlc release

[fleet raptor]

tysm 💙

[magic agate]

Is it possible to add Kuru to a hair ? How are you guys mix and matching hairs ?

[mint snow]

the kuru are separate models but are attached to the hairstyle in a way we can't control right now. People layer hair by switching other gear models into hair, though you'll have as many kuru as you're wearing hairstyles

[pallid sandal]

I have a question and I hope it's okay to ask in here. If not pls tell me where to post the question and I will do that 🫶 Is there a mod / reshade one can use to make better in-game pictures? More color options or more blurring options? It would be great if that mod is free. Thanks fam 💙

[magic agate]

Oh ok so if I change a hair to a headgear then it'll have a kuru? Sorry I'm trying to mod the game and just started

[magic agate]

You can download reshade yourself and add colors and pallets to change the color of the game, you dont necessarily need someone to upload a reshade, it's a very easy installed ( not being rude just letting you known 🙂 )

[mint snow]

Are you playing with the unfinished hairstyle without a kuru? Yeah if you put that on anything else and also wear the "bald" style that'll give the look

[stark crater]

For what it's worth, there are a few Reshade presets uploaded to the Nexus. Some are simple and just enhance colors a bit. And the in-game photo mode does have Depth Of Field blurring as well.

[stark crater]

Also, not to be a bother, but sometime could I pester you for help with your hair mod? I ran into a bug, but I'm not sure if Nexus notifs are working haha. No pressure ofc.

[mint snow]

Yeah if you asked about the hair tie, those optional files don't give the actual cosmetic
Just the hair

[magic agate]

Yeah I'm trying to play with the " feathered hair" I know there's a mod that adds it to a headgear but I have not found that specific headgear yet and since the loot is random it might take forever so I am trying to add it to one of the head gears I have

[stark crater]

Ahhh that explains it, thank you!

[pallid sandal]

Ah okay 🙂 Are there blurring effects also?

[magic agate]

Yep, theres a bunch of effects, including depth of field

[stark crater]

Oh, do you mean the mod by Tseyks? I had to move that one to a different gear mod as well. It doesn't have a kuru, but if you wear it on top of a normal hair, it layers properly. I can take screencaps if you need them / help move it / etc.

[magic agate]

Yep that one!

I also mightve been replacing things wrong since it's my first attempt to replace hairs

[stark crater]

I'm still very new, so it took a lot of fiddling around to get it to work for me as well. I can DM so we're not spamming the channel, if you'd like?

[edgy mango]

Hey can someone tell me what a ‘blue folder’ is? I’ve done the whole vortex then with managing avatar and having the universal snowdrop mod loader. But anytime I go to get a mod the description says to move the zip files into some blue folder and then something about placing it in the game directory.

[restive prawn]

The blue folder is the folder that holds all subfolders for mods

[edgy mango]

Well my mod folder is just vortex

I don’t know if I have an actual folder on my file area

[restive prawn]

hold on lemme summon vortex bestie

@glossy moth go vortex pro

[edgy mango]

Am I meant to make one for certain mods? Because so far the two mods I got work fine without a ‘blue folder’

[restive prawn]

-# i dont know how vortex works 😔 Shadow knows all vortexy stuff

[edgy mango]

Okay well I’ll wait for them then

But thank you

[stone dew]

Is there a way to increase the draw distance?

Grass for example.

[edgy mango]

Now my only issue is figuring out how to get a torso file because I only have the head file no other body parts

[pallid sandal]

heeyyy im looking for a cool patern for my ikran, buuutt idk how to add mods with ps5

[restive prawn]

Mods are PC only

[pallid sandal]

well thats a shame

🥀

[glossy moth]

hiya! Sorry for the delay, I missed the ping 😄
Well, if you are using Vortex you don't need to worry about the "blue" folder, Vortex will manage it. But yes, as Kal said that folder is where the mods are usually installed. In this case, Vortex will create it and put stuff there when you install the mods
Only time you would need to do something about it is when Vortex is unable to know how to install it and will prompt you to check the mod's description for details

[edgy mango]

Well for some modes like stuff for shirts and stuff

Like re-textures, I need to put the file in the torso part of blue/baked/characterat or whatever

And I only have ‘head’ not ‘torso’

[glossy moth]

Vortex will do that for you, no need to worry about that

[edgy mango]

Well anytime I try for certain ones it says it dosent know where to go

[glossy moth]

which mods exactly are you trying to install?

[edgy mango]

a shirt one that goes to feathers (i forgot the name)

but it says this

[glossy moth]

yeah, due to how some authors packaged their mods Vortex won't be sure where to put the files properly, that is one of the cases. What you have to do is to check the mod's description for instructions about the path. Let me check that one

[edgy mango]

the image i sent is the one for it

[glossy moth]

ok hold on

[edgy mango]

alright

[glossy moth]

ah right. Well, unfortunately Vortex is unable (for now) to deal with mods with variations defined through the file names, that's the case for "Feathers - Researcher Shirt retexture". Vortex will ask for the path but it won't install stuff correctly.
If you have installed through Vortex already I can tell you how to fix it real quick

Do you still have it installed through Vortex?

[edgy mango]

not currenlty

but i can re-install it

another one i was trying to get was an eyelash one with the same issue

[glossy moth]

wait, hold on. Are you trying to install the Additional Colors one?

like, the top or bottom one here?

the bottom on should work without issues and no prompt given, the top one won't work for technical reasons but I can tell how to fix it

[edgy mango]

alterantive

[glossy moth]

ok sure

[edgy mango]

i'll just do the bottom one then but theres one more mod i need help with

if thats okay

[glossy moth]

sure sure, let's deal with this first then I can help with any other

ok, install that Additional Colors and when Vortex ask you for a path put baked\characterart\gear\player\res\torso\base\g_res_torso_base_02\textures

[edgy mango]

ALRIGHT

mb caps

[glossy moth]

np xD

[edgy mango]

i have to put blue first

[glossy moth]

after the installing is done disable it if it gets enabled automatically

[edgy mango]

before baked correct?

[glossy moth]

oops right

[glossy moth]

yes blue\baked\characterart\gear\player\res\torso\base\g_res_torso_base_02\textures

that's it, slashes or backslahes won't matter

[edgy mango]

okay ill check if it worked real quick

let me launch the game

[glossy moth]

no hold on

it won't work and we are going to fix it

[edgy mango]

oh

what do i do next then

[glossy moth]

Additional Colors have files named with numbers on them to mark the variations, like (2) g_res_torso_base_02a_d.dds and the game won't recognize that. For now Vortex is unable to detect that and pick the proper one, I'm going to show how to fix that

firstly, check the mod's page and mark the number of the variation you want

[edgy mango]

let me check

g_res_torso_base_02A_d.dds

its the ver 5

[glossy moth]

ok. Now, in Vortex, if there is a green button labeled Enabled on it click that button to disable it, then right click it and choose Open in File Manager

[edgy mango]

done

[glossy moth]

it should open the File Explorer showing a "baked" folder, right?

[edgy mango]

yes

when i go fully trhough the last one is all the textures

[glossy moth]

double click that folder and navigate through it until you see the texture files

[edgy mango]

im there

[glossy moth]

right. Now, delete everything except the one with (5) in the name

[edgy mango]

done

[glossy moth]

then rename the remaining file and remove the (5) (including the space)

[edgy mango]

wait so what should it be named

this?

[glossy moth]

just remove the (5) should be like g_res_torso_base_02a_d.dds

yep!

[edgy mango]

alright

[glossy moth]

I forget about the hidden extension on renaming 😄

now, back to Vortex, click Disabled button to enable it. Then load the game and check it

[edgy mango]

okay

its the one for the orginal unfirom right?

[glossy moth]

oh, I guess it's going to conflict with Feathers - Researcher Shirt retexture though 🤔

[edgy mango]

like the shirt

so i have to delete another thing?

[glossy moth]

it will change the Researcher Shirt yes

[edgy mango]

alright

let me check

it still shows up as this

[glossy moth]

yeah, I think you need "Feathers - Researcher Shirt retexture" enabled as well but it will conflict with "Additional Colors".
Ok, back in Vortex, disable "Feathers - Researcher Shirt retexture" if it's enabled then right click it and choose Open in File Manager

[edgy mango]

alright

all i ahve is the additionol colors one though

[glossy moth]

now, navigate through this path baked > characterart > gear > player > res > torso > base > g_res_torso_base_02 > textures

[edgy mango]

okay

[glossy moth]

wait

don't you have "Feathers - Researcher Shirt retexture" installed? Install it if so, disable it if it gets enabled automatically

[edgy mango]

alright im doing that

[glossy moth]

ok

right click it and choose Open in File Manager
let me know when you have done this

[edgy mango]

done it

[glossy moth]

do you have the File Explorer showing you a "baked" folder?

[edgy mango]

yes

[glossy moth]

ok, do this 👆

then you should see 3 files:
g_res_torso_base_02a_d, g_res_torso_base_02a_m and g_res_torso_base_02a_n

[edgy mango]

yup

[glossy moth]

rename the g_res_torso_base_02a_d to anything, maybe like g_res_torso_base_02a_d_orig

note, it must be the one ending with _d, leave the others as they are

[glossy moth]

yup, that's it

g_res_torso_base_02a_d is used for both "Feathers - Researcher Shirt retexture" and "Additional Colors" and then they will confilict if both are enabled. By renaming it like that we are going to prevent the conflict
Now, in Vortex, enable "Feathers - Researcher Shirt retexture"

[edgy mango]

done

[glossy moth]

alright, load the game and check it

[edgy mango]

ookay

give me one minute

[glossy moth]

sure, take your time

[edgy mango]

it works !

[glossy moth]

\o/

Soon™ Vortex will be able to deal with that and it will be way easier 😜

ok, you need help with Better Eyelashes as well, right?

[edgy mango]

yeah

the clusster ones

does the same thing with the needing to send it to a certain area in files

[glossy moth]

yeah, that one should be easier. Install it normally and when Vortex asks you for a path put blue\baked\characterart\player\head\shared and should be done

[edgy mango]

alright let me try it

it worked too

[glossy moth]

🎉

[edgy mango]

im gonna check out a few more mods but thank you because i understand the moding part better now!

[glossy moth]

nice. And yw, glad to help

In general stuff should install just fine with Vortex. In a few cases, due how authors packaged it Vortex will need some "help" to know how to do that, most of times you just need to check the instructions for the expected path and tell it to Vortex

[edgy mango]

yeah i didnt understand all the vortex stuff considering i got it today

[glossy moth]

understandable

[timber field]

I would also dearly
Like to get my mods to work 😭

I have some to make my Sarentu look like my Navi oc

[glossy moth]

have you tried to install it manually or through Vortex? And what's the issue?

[timber field]

I have everything on through vortex it’s just that it kept making my game crash without it even launching properly

[glossy moth]

ohh ok, it's a known issue since the last patch

can you show what mods you have installed?

[timber field]

plus the snowdrop mod thing that i cut off at the top

[glossy moth]

ok, let me check some things

[glossy moth]

ok, these seems to be causing issues:

• Base - Ikran Fly Speed - Increased 3 Times
• Ikran's - No Stamina Usage on Barrel Roll

just keep these disabled and wait for them to be updated, everything else should be fine to enable.

[timber field]

ooh? awesome illl try it out

[glossy moth]

for reference, any mod using the "gameplay" folder seems to be causing issues after the latest update

there are a few exceptions though, I have seen some using that folder and still working

I couldn't check Rea's Custom Ikran Skin since searching on NexusMods returned nothing 🤨 but I remember a bit about that one and I guess it's a fine one

[timber field]

Well my game is running fine so fingers crossed

[glossy moth]

if it loaded, even showing that intial warning and credits, then stuff should be ok xD

[timber field]

It doesn’t seem to be showing up in game though

Like the hair color and the ikran skin, those should be showing up in their respective menus right?

[glossy moth]

I suppose so

[timber field]

Huh

I am not getting anything

went to the hair because its easiest to see

[glossy moth]

huh hold on

do you mean that Vivid Player Hair mod, right?

[timber field]

Yeah

I also checked all my ikran skins and I didn’t see the custom one but I also don’t know how these work so

[glossy moth]

ok, check a thing for me real quick: in Vortex, double click that Vivid Player Hair mod (anywhere in the row like on the mod's name), a little panel should open on the right. Show me that panel

[timber field]

this?

[glossy moth]

no, double click it

[timber field]

Oh I’m

Okay

[glossy moth]

😁

[timber field]

Ah it replaces hair color 09…

[glossy moth]

ah

[timber field]

For some reason I just never picked up any other hairstyles or colors while playing

[glossy moth]

hmm, the desc says

"Canopy Saturations" Files replace hair color 010 in-file (Originally: Purple)

ah

[timber field]

It says 9 and 10 and underbrush and canopy saturations respectively

[glossy moth]

yup

you installed the "Canopy Saturations" colors, that's supposed to replace the color 10

[timber field]

Either way I don’t think I have that so

Time to do color hunting lol

[glossy moth]

xD

[timber field]

I’m too tired to figure out how to make the ikran skin work hrhf something about replacing one of the files for a certain color

[glossy moth]

anyway, an easy way to check if mods are working is looking on your char's body since you installed https://www.nexusmods.com/avatarfrontiersofpandora/mods/134 (link because it seems I can't spell the name here?), just check if your char doesn't have those patches covering the bits 😛 if so, mods are working

[timber field]

I guess if that’s how modding works then I’ll have to sit down and figure all that out for most of these?

[glossy moth]

well, modding usually just replaces in-game stuff, you just need to have said stuff unlocked/available

apparently the author of that hair mod chose those colors because it's exclusive to players and not shaded with NPCs

the descriptions will usually tell what item the mod is suppose to replace

[timber field]

Ye I saw

It’s always been late when I’ve been trying to do this stuff so

Rn it’s. 6 am

[glossy moth]

woah

well, go get some rest 😛

[timber field]

I think the bioluminescence mod is working

[glossy moth]

nice

[iron jasper]

can someone tell me what do i do if i have the game on steam and ubisoft? i bought it at steam but i have it also on ubisoft for some reason and i tried so many times to download mods but it doesnt work

[glossy moth]

each install will need to have its own mods (there is a way to make them "shared" between both but it's some advanced stuff)

[iron jasper]

aw

[glossy moth]

that's because each paltform uses a different install path

[iron jasper]

idk if i want to uninstall ubisoft bc of the rewards but i cant uninstall it from steam cuz i bought it there ugh

[glossy moth]

huh, did you buy the game in both platforms?

[iron jasper]

no i bought it in steam and when i like played it for the first time it auto installed ubisoft for me?

[glossy moth]

ahh then no, you have it only on Steam (it's just Steam includes the Ubisoft thing)

if you bought it on Ubisoft store you would need to run it through Ubisoft Connect directly

so you are good, you have it only on Steam

did you try installing mods manually or through Vortex?

[iron jasper]

so its only on steam even if this is what it shows?

[glossy moth]

yep, Steam calls the Ubisoft thing when running but "officially" you use the Steam version only

[iron jasper]

ohh

[glossy moth]

the Ubisoft version is different, you would use its own launcher

[iron jasper]

to play i just click the game itself

so i need to install mods with steam?

[glossy moth]

yep

[iron jasper]

is there a different way then the normal way or

bc i tried so many times

[glossy moth]

not really, it should be same for any platform. The only difference is where the game files are

[iron jasper]

im gonna try and install a mod if it doesnt work can you help me?

[glossy moth]

sure. Are you doing it manually or through Vortex?

[iron jasper]

vortex and nexus are the same or no?

[glossy moth]

not really. Vortex is an app from NexusMods to manage mods. NexusMods is the platform hosting the mod files 😄

[iron jasper]

ohh

so do i need to download vortex?

[glossy moth]

Vortex makes it easier to install and manage mods, see https://discord.com/channels/846716389037178901/1434732446242574356 if you wanna try it

[iron jasper]

ill look at it and tell you if i managed to understand

[glossy moth]

sure

[iron jasper]

do i need to log in vortex or no need

[glossy moth]

yup

I can't recall if it's required, but by logging in it will be able to track updates and stuff

[iron jasper]

i tried logging on but i need a 2FA code which i dont know what do i do..

[glossy moth]

uh oh

don't you have an authenticator app or something?

[iron jasper]

uhh

does the vortex account matter or i can just create a new one

[glossy moth]

well, not really, it just keeps an history of what you downloaded, endorsed etc

maybe try to contact NexusMods support to recovery it

[burnt helm]

@compact badger

[compact badger]

my mods dont work even if i have put version and version.dll in the afop folder

or is it bcs i havent unlocked everything

[tame path]

If a mod is altering something you don’t have in-game then yes, otherwise it could be any number of things like, for example, a file needing to be renamed for one of my mods

[glossy moth]

which mods are you trying to install?

[strong pilot]

-# Ubisoft version actually uses Ubisoft Connect

That's where Ubi's game library is

[glossy moth]

yep, that's what I meant with "its own launcher" 😄

[strong pilot]

Ahh

I thought you meant a 3rd, separate launcher since you mentioned Connect a couple messages earlier 😅

[glossy moth]

Steam triggers Ubi Connect somehow but as a background stuff. For the version bought through Ubisoft one needs the full Ubisoft Connect

ah heh

maybe language tripped me there 😛

[stark nova]

Is there a mod that allows your ikran to be more accurately sized/be a little bigger

[tame path]

No, we are unable to change 3D models in any way

[stark nova]

Shucks

[pine oracle]

😔

sizing up ikran would be the first thing i do

[bitter rapids]

....YES.

I wish we could 😭

[timber field]

Are they smaller than they should be?

[bleak helm]

they're smaller than the ones in the reigion that the avatar movies are set in

i think the hallelujah mountain ikran are supposed to be the largest ones on pandora

[timber field]

Interesting

[strong pilot]

Yup, afop ikrans are clearly smaller when compared side-by-side

Imo it's a bit unrealistic

As in they're bordering so small that the Na'vi are adding quite a lot of weight when riding them

[flint elm]

I mean we've seen hallelujah mountain Ikrans carry multiple full grown Na'vi, they can carry a lot of weight
It's just a regional difference and imo it's not that unrealistic considering how strong they are

[strong pilot]

That'd also be in the same category of unrealistic 😅

[flint elm]

To be completely honest, atp expecting avatar to be in any way realistic is wishful thinking my friend hrh

I wish it was but 😭 they're going far more magical fantasy than scientific lately

[strong pilot]

True 😔

[timber field]

is hrh like lol?

[flint elm]

Yes ^^

[timber field]

interesting ty

[hollow hamlet]

hey, can anyone help? I'm having issues with this mod, the weaver ankle guards were supposed to change into Vanity Upperbody (Bone Torso gear) but they don't-
I also cant find where to get the Woodshaper Strap Utility
the mods page: https://www.nexusmods.com/avatarfrontiersofpandora/mods/456?tab=description

[glossy moth]

did you install it manually or through Vortex?

[hollow hamlet]

manually i think

[glossy moth]

ok, can you show the contents of the blue\graph objects\gear folder?

[hollow hamlet]

the top file is for the hair and it works fine

[glossy moth]

there is it, you need to take the files out of those folders

[hollow hamlet]

oh

[glossy moth]

the game won't recognize (Vanity Upperbody) folder, it's just the mod author used that to separate the files in the pack

[hollow hamlet]

ah alr, let me launch the game to see if it works

[glossy moth]

Create the following folders: 'blue' > 'graph objects' > 'gear', move or copy your chosen mgraphobject from either "female" or "male" folder and paste into your blue > graph objects path
The same thing applies for (Vanity Upperbody).

[hollow hamlet]

it doesn't work o.O

[glossy moth]

make sure you have these like this:

📁 blue
  📁 graph objects
    📁 gear
      📄 g_utility_torso_02.mgraphobject
      📄 g_tmp_legs_base_02.mgraphobject