#Which PC build is good?

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vapid belfry
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Hey guys, planning on building a future-proof desktop PC both for the game (as well as future demanding ones like Star Wars Outlaws) to run on High-Ultra at 60+fps and creative work (blender, etc). Unfortunately my laptop, while amazing, cant cut the game's mustard (play-doh textures 6gb VRAM GPU-though the card is great). Any builds I should look into? Something in the 1000s range is fine, most likely won't be plonking down 3 grand lol

elder horizon
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your gonna have to pay more than 1,000 dollars is you wanna play future demanding games on max settings your lookking at around 1500 minimum my build costed me 2100 dollars to build, new Asus Tuf RTX 4070 OC 5800x 3d with 64GB of Corsair RGB Ram at 3600 Mhz Corsiar 5000D Airflow Case 10 of Corsairs high end Air flow fans 750 watt Power supply DeepCools newest 360mm AIO and a MSI Pro Carbon WIFI MotherBoard a 1TB samsung 980 pro M.2 and a 500GB sata SSD. I could have done the same build for about 1800 if I would have went with cheaper parts or bought new and used parts, I got to buy everything new tho, I just trust it more plus I get a warrenty for everything, it plays everything at high or ultra at or over 100 fps at 1440p. avatar I get 98 to 130 FPS at 1440p with DLSS quality. and at 4k It runs at around 75 FPS. if your just going for 1080p max settings a 4060 TI or a 7600 XT should be good with a AM4 5600X 3D OR A AM5 7600X or Intel I5 12600k/I5 13600k. You can pick any mother board that fits either cpu to what ever fits your budget. but for future proofing if you plan on using the PC awhile before upgrading your gonna have to spend more than 1,000 dollars to run max settings at higher resolutions, thats not including your monitor unless you already have the one you want. I built mine about 8 months ago. I Love it. I'm gonna try to get the 4070 super or 4070 TI Super when they come out, they will be the same price as the current cards out now but better, I like Nvidia but Amd make good cards there are plenty of good options out there Higher Resolutions on high or ultra is gonna cost more than a grand. but 1080p you can probably swing that for 1,000 to 1300 Dollars just look for good deals. Make sure you buy a good quality Power supply I would buy anything less than a 750 watt or a 850 watt from a good brand they can last for awhile at least through a couple of GPU upgrades before you build a new pc. You will also need at least 12GB of vram for 1440p and up.

vapid belfry
cursive sage
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Unless you really want a PC, I think a console might be a better investment for that money. Since you will be able to play those games on console with 60FPS (I can't imagine Outlaws wouldn't be).

Because most future proof GPUs right now are simply over €1000 already, and even those seem to get outdated by new tech pretty quickly these days, like the lack of DLSS frame generation support on RTX3000 cards.

timid finch
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I am playing it on my AMD 6900XT. Those GPUs are pretty "cheap" nowadays. But you can get the new AMD cards now for similar prices and should get those. FSR3 is a gamechanger and I hope many games follow asap.

languid basalt
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Personally if you really want to get your money’s worth console is the way to go. If you really want a PC that can max out on everything $3,000-$4,000 is usually the price range you’ll find in the U.S. for the pre-built rigs. NVIDA 4080 & 4090 can easily cost around $1,700-$2,000 easily. Everyone craps on AMD but honestly right now that would be the way to go GPU wise due to the insane prices of NVIDA. I usually eyeball anything upgrade wise I want leading up to Black Friday and cyber Monday to see if certain retailers hike up the prices or not. The ones that don’t and actually do offer a decent discount that’s when I’ll get anything expensive like this. So if you want to find something in your price range that’s prebuilt you certainly won’t getting anywhere close to high or ultra settings with games of this caliber in particular as you’ll probably need to drop quite a bit of extra cash. I would recommend if you want to have a PC this powerful in the future start researching what parts you’ll want and the websites that offer the best deals. I would also wait for sales to see if those retailers actually drop the price.

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Really I would look at either AMD GPUs or if you really want NVIDA a 3080 would be a better investment.

vapid belfry
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What about laptops? I’ve been seeing some really good models in the 1000s range. I don’t reallly need everything at unobtanium levels but where the detail is there, quality is there, good balance with high fps

languid basalt
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Most easily start in the $3000s range.

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The thing is what will really cost the most out of your budget for a good gaming PC will be mainly be the GPU and the CPU. Good GPU’s will always be very pricy.

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But you might be able to find something in the upper $1000s range that is midrange. But at that point I would just stick to console.

vapid belfry
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Right right, thanks 🙂

languid basalt
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No problem! It just takes some time to research what you want according to your budget! But yeah gaming PCs will always be very expensive. You might have some luck with holiday sales going on right now!

vapid belfry
vapid belfry
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Sooo, for some reason, the new game update on PC lets my laptop run the game on Medium preset, and no texture or fps loss! Nothing looks like play-doh now!

broken wadi
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I agree. If you want a great inexpensive gaming platform, it is best to go with a $399 dollar XBOX or PS5. This is well within the $1000 mark. My 8GB GPU gaming laptop is performing excellent with this game, but it cost around $1700. Mine is a white ASUS TUF Dash F15 2021. I also upgraded mine to 40GB Ram, and 2-2TB ssd, although I am just using the 1TB drive now, because my Boot sector crashed on my 2TB drive, and I can only read from it, but not boot. I need the files and programs on the 2TB drive, so I can't wipe it.

vapid belfry
elder horizon
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@languid basaltboth ps5 and series x can only run the game at 1080p 60 fps in performance mode you dont need a 4080 90 class card i play 4K 75 fps maxed settings and i have 2 grand in my rig i could have built it for 1700 to 1800 but i put high dollar parts in so it costed a bit more. you can have a 4080 build for 2500 at the cheaper side only if you go prebuilt will you pay over 4 grand for a pc or put very expensive parts in your's when building there are ways to cut cost with out losing performance. I put the best parts I Could get at the time when i build mine but a 6800xt 4070 6950xt 3090's and 3080's are still all very good cards and are future proof it will still be another 2 or 3 years before these cards become high fps 1080p cards there all still putting out 100+ fps at 1440p and over 70 fps at 4K on high settings with some ultra mixed in the console gpu's are equal to a 3060 ti the series s is equal to a 1070 TI. but a pc that can out do a console just needs to be a 3070 6700XT 12GB up because a 3070 performs close to a 3060 TI it is stronger by 25 % so anything 3070 ti and up smokes consoles you can build that a lot cheaper than the higher end midrange builds but the higher end build will benifit you more for the 10Gb+ VRAM, that's the only place console has the advantage over a 3070 3070 TI is the X has 12GB and the PS5 has 11 GB other than that there slower and weaker a 2080 TI is basically a 3070 but with 11 GB of vram you can find good deals on thos cards too. or just get a 6700XT 12GB card cheap and thats it to beat the consoles. just pair it with a good cpu to handle the cpu demanding games your all set.

languid basalt
# elder horizon <@143833608573026304>both ps5 and series x can only run the game at 1080p 60 fps...

True I’ve heard people being able to run this game on high without a 4080/4090. What this person was asking was a price range for a rig that could possibly run a game that’s not even out yet and that could possibly have demanding hardware requirements like this on high or ultra settings. Games on 4k are getting more demanding with the hardware requirements nowadays. And I was trying to give them an idea of what the price range for prebuilt rigs of the caliber are. Trust me I understand you don’t need a 4080 or a 4090 and that’s why I said a 3080 was a better investment for their money or like you have also stated a 3070 if we are purely taking about NVIDA. I also understand building PCs are less expensive but that still requires someone to know what they are doing. I simply assumed they were asking about pre built rigs and not building their own. They said their budget was in the 1000s range and I simply told them the truth that for a prebuilt rig they would have to spend more to get what they are looking for. That said if they do enough research and want to build their own rig within their price range than that’s great! But as of right now if they don’t want to build their own and can’t find what they want in their price range right now that’s why I said they are better off sticking to console for now. But yeah PCs will always out perform consoles but regardless consoles are still by far the more budget friendly option.

timid finch
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I wouldnt buy nvidia anymore. They always f*** their customers. You want Framegeneration? Too bad.. You need to buy our new RTX4000 GPUs. Sorry we cant let you use it with your RTX 3000 GPU. Meanwhile AMD makes FSR3 opensource and now mods are appearing everywhere that add FSR 3 Framegen in a lot of games that didnt have it. And everyone can use it. Not just nvidias new GPUs.

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A mod that allows FSR3 framegen in every game that ahas DLSS3 already. This means everyone that has a nvidia 2000 or 3000 series GPU, kann use Framegen and does not need RTX4000. This just shows how bad nvidia is to its customers.

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By this mod alone you basically make RTX 4000 irrelevant as DLSS3 is the feature to sell it basically.

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Monopols are never good. And nvidia is basically a monopol and we need more competitiors that provide alternatives.

elder horizon
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@timid finch thats personal preference dude nvidia does all of it better than amd they have seperate chips built in that handles there dlss and framegen while fsr is software thats why any card can run fsr and framegen and the new tech amd has still underperforms compaired to nvidia there cards cost more to make because they have there tech built from the ground up. with independent chips controlling it thats why not every card can do it, thats also why it out performs amd fsr and super resolution. dlss and framegen from nvidia is alot better in performance and the picture quality. it is good that there is a software that can work on any card to help its performance but it isnt even close to dlss and framegen from nvidia. you really dont know what your talking about. there are a ton of sources that prove my point. fsr and amd framgen is pretty good but it dont come close to dlss and framegen its facts. not personal preference. If your look at my other post i suport AMD cards also I'm not bias. I just prefer Nvidia because you get the performance plus better tech.