#We all get told “hashtags and tags dont matter” - why?

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quasi spruce
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VidIQ’s app has a designated location for these two things to “optimise your video”. Is this purely for SEO ranking? And if so then why isnt more importance put on it? Cos if people find your videos from searching for a topic rather than just being suggested your videos, does that really matter? Could it potentially be better to improve SEO ranking for better exposure?

I know this is technically a few questions lol - thanks to anyone that answers!!! 🙂

verbal helm
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Youtube, like google, does not rely on the tags field to rank the video. SEO is a viable strategy for high volume keywords.

quasi spruce
verbal helm
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A banger video is only an option when you have no competition. SEO is only an option when there is low traffic for the keyword.

quasi spruce
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So what about tags that have high search volume and low competition? Are they “ideal” tags (or later content) then?

quasi spruce
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ive done a podcast episode about uk politics

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and according to vidiq “general election” has a search volume of 58 and a low competition giving it a score of 62/100… would this be an example of a “good tag”?

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(as its related to the episode obviously)

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so then (linking back to my og question) - why isnt there more of an emphasis of finding effective keywords that are sustainable for you to keep making vids within that niche and then building a viewership of people who find your vids from search?

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surely that paired with banger TnT + intro (and all YT rules of a good vid) is a more reliable way of getting viewers as you’ll appear to be the “best” out of all search results? And then people sub because you solved their problems best because they SPECIFICALLY looked for the answers youre providing rather than waiting for them to appear in suggested?

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idk - dont wanna sound like im waffling lol but it seems like a missed opportunity?

verbal helm
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The reason for the absense is because youtube channels are owned by creators and creators do unique stuff for which there is no keyword. Also, SEO is still a low reach strategy compared to for example ideation. Finally, SEO requires titles very close to the keyword which prevents from using original angles.

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Feel free to experiment though. I believe you can find a sweet spot.

quasi spruce
# verbal helm Feel free to experiment though. I believe you can find a sweet spot.

if im spending too much of your time feel free to not reply lol - i appreciate your time bro… one final thing:

when making educational content is maximising SEO not “the best way” to try and grow an audience? For example if someone searches ‘How to “XYZ” ’ or whatever isnt that an easy way to funnel people with a particular niche/interest? Cos that way you’d be making the best content about the niche by delivering quality and then keeping people with them subbed thus making a stable viewership as a result cos they found you rather than hoping you find the right people or leaving it up to YT to find them for you?

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i know if youre tryna be the “mrbeast, ryan trahans” of the world making original content that no ones making then obviously the above doesnt apply. But if you have a large/popular niche and can figure out what the most common problems are in it and then “exploit” it by using those keywords,tags, hashtags etc surely thats the secret?

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would absolutely LOVE some other people in this server to weigh in. Obviously i have ZERO data to back any of this up but ive only just kinda thought of it today and looking at VidIQ app and it explicitly labelling SEO and such as “optimisation” (what we’re all striving for lol)

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THANK YOU to anyone that contributes/weighs in on my hypothetical question!!! 🙏

verbal helm
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It's all about how many views you want, how well those keyword search convert into prospects, and what the competitors are doing in the market. You have to try to know if it can work for you.

cunning owl
# quasi spruce i know if youre tryna be the “mrbeast, ryan trahans” of the world making origina...

As a primarily educational channel, I don't use tags or any other "SEO" optimizing stuff. I will sometimes make my title the exact search query someone has but thats because people click on videos that match their exact search query. I also "compete" by showinf my educational content is the most up to date "CapCut Video Editing Tutorial (2024)" or by claiming to add more value "Advanced Editing Tips in CapCut" or by currating a ton of informaiton into a compelte guide "CapCut Mastery: 40 Editing Tips For NEXT LEVEL Edits". These are all ways to stand out (and there are more ways) when a bunch of people have already covered the topic.

I do pay attention to search traffic/demand for a topic but only as a way to know if I should make a video on that topic. If people are searching "CapCut Tutorial" it lets me know that I should make content around CapCut for both that exact question and surrounding content that could be suggested after that video.

Just my thoughts.

quasi spruce
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i was just curious to see in those things mentioned the VidIQ app especially since they are kinda “frowned up” almost (or at least ill advised)
Wondering if there is any data to show the difference in performance between tags+hasthags vs no tags+hashtags…

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you like MrBeast did the whole open vs close mouth test - that kinda test to see if there is a difference. I know YT explicitly says it doesnt make a difference when recommending so i wont put too much importance on it rn

cunning owl
quasi spruce
maiden stream
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basically my whole thread is experiment on this features #1212998434131546122

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but overall.. every part got "weight" and weight of tags is like 0.001% probably

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first few lines of description is best part to drop stuff for "search"

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other stuff, probably can work in tandem. like typical typos in tags

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you can google "tuporlak27"

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and you'll find only one search result , and thats from my testing

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so first lines of description is actually can benefit search results

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and..ONLY AT GOOGLE :)

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try to search it on YT.. no results

abstract fiber
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GE Election video is good, edpecially thumbnail, but too long

quasi spruce
abstract fiber
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yep

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I watch so much politics that I dont remember if you had quite a leftist bias or that was someone else

quasi spruce