binod-Subscription | Stripe Developers | Page 1

hollow ermine Jul 4, 2022, 7:44 AM

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Hi there, do you have a chance to read this doc? https://stripe.com/docs/billing/subscriptions/upgrade-downgrade

Upgrade and downgrade subscriptions

Learn how to upgrade and downgrade subscriptions by changing the price.

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 7:44 AM

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yes, I have implemented it

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But getting an issue

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hello?

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Let me give you a context. I am using Card and iDeal payment for subscription.

iDeal payment uses collection method send_onvoice to pay for subscription through stripe hosted URL
Card payment uses collection method automatically_charge to pay using paymentIntent.clientSecret

Both work for creating subscription

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Now the problem is, if I have subscribed with iDeal and want to upgrade/downgrade using card I don't get paymentIntent.clientSecret because existing subscription has a collection method of send_invoice which does not create paymentIntent object

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how do I tackle this issue?

hollow ermine Jul 4, 2022, 7:52 AM

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how about changing the collection method to charge_automatically ?

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 7:56 AM

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existing subscription is attached to iDeal so update API rejects charge_automatically

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??

hollow ermine Jul 4, 2022, 8:00 AM

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can you send me the request ID?

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 8:01 AM

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sure

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req_MafShRume06fer

hollow ermine Jul 4, 2022, 8:02 AM

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Thanks, give me a sec to take a look

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 8:03 AM

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ok

hollow ermine Jul 4, 2022, 8:05 AM

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So you have changed the payment_method to card before this request?

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 8:05 AM

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no

hollow ermine Jul 4, 2022, 8:07 AM

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Can you change the payment_method to card and then change the collection method?

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 8:08 AM

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in the same request API or different?

hollow ermine Jul 4, 2022, 8:09 AM

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In separate API calls

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 8:11 AM

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which one?

hollow ermine Jul 4, 2022, 8:12 AM

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Change the payment_method to card
Change the collection method to charge_automatically

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To change the payment_method, you should first collect a card payment method via SetupIntent, and then update the default_payment_method (https://stripe.com/docs/api/subscriptions/object?lang=curl#subscription_object-default_payment_method) with ID of the collected payment_method

Stripe API reference – The subscription object – curl

Complete reference documentation for the Stripe API. Includes code snippets and examples for our Python, Java, PHP, Node.js, Go, Ruby, and .NET libraries.

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 8:17 AM

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it says invalid array

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req ID: req_YdyaGOfgSHeo03

hollow ermine Jul 4, 2022, 8:18 AM

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Please read my last message about payment method update.

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 8:20 AM

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that's what I did. change payment method and change collection method

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await stripe.subscriptions.update(subscription_id, { payment_settings: { payment_method_types: 'card' } }); const updated = await stripe.subscriptions.update(subscription_id, { collection_method: 'charge_automatically', cancel_at_period_end: false, payment_behavior: 'default_incomplete', expand: ['latest_invoice.payment_intent'], proration_behavior: 'always_invoice', payment_settings: { save_default_payment_method: 'on_subscription' }, items: [{ id: existing_subs.items.data[0].id, price: data.plan_id, }] });

hollow ermine Jul 4, 2022, 8:22 AM

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Ah, the payment_method_types is expecting an array, so use this instead

await stripe.subscriptions.update(subscription_id, { payment_settings: { payment_method_types: ['card'] } });

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 8:24 AM

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still paymentIntent is null

hollow ermine Jul 4, 2022, 8:26 AM

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what's the latest invoice's status? is it paid?

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 8:28 AM

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its draft

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??

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Is it wise to use this approach?

Delete existing subscription (Not update)
Create new subscription on each upgrade/downgrade

hollow ermine Jul 4, 2022, 8:35 AM

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If the invoice status is draft, it's expected to have null payment_intent.

The payment_intent is not null when the invoice is open and the amount > 0.

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 8:37 AM

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for amount > 0 status is paid and still paymentIntent is null.

hollow ermine Jul 4, 2022, 8:38 AM

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That's because the invoice is already paid.

Why do you still want to get the client_secret for charge_automatically subscriptions? Stripe will automatically use the default_payment_method to pay the invoice.

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 8:39 AM

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to enter card details im using PaymentElement in frontend

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which requires clientSecret

hollow ermine Jul 4, 2022, 8:40 AM

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So you don't want to use charge_automatically and prefer your customer to visit your website and make the payments manually?

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 8:41 AM

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yes, while changing subscription plan, they will pay manually

hollow ermine Jul 4, 2022, 8:41 AM

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OK, then you don't change the collection method.

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You current integration should work fine. The reason that the paymentIntent is null is that the last invoice is either in draft or paid already.

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I'd also want to mention that Stripe also provide a customer billing portal where your customer can manage the payment method by themselves https://stripe.com/docs/billing/subscriptions/integrating-customer-portal

Integrate the customer portal

Learn how to integrate the customer portal.

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 8:44 AM

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does stripe also stores card payment details for future payments?

hollow ermine Jul 4, 2022, 8:45 AM

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Yes

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https://stripe.com/docs/payments/save-and-reuse

Set up future payments

Learn how to save card details and charge your customers later.

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 8:46 AM

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okay, so if status is paid I don't need to pay manually right?

hollow ermine Jul 4, 2022, 8:47 AM

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No need, it's paid already

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 8:48 AM

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okay, so my current code should work right?

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if im switching from card to iDeal, follow the same approach?

change payment method
change collection method

hollow ermine Jul 4, 2022, 8:50 AM

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No need to change the collection method if you don't your subscription to be charged automatically, you just need to change the payment method type

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 8:51 AM

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hollow mural ??

ok, how about this approach? any issue with this?

hollow ermine Jul 4, 2022, 8:51 AM

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Can you repeat the approach? i only see two question marks

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 8:52 AM

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Instead of update, I use

delete existing subscription
create new subscription

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on each upgrade/downgrade

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any cons of this approach?

hollow ermine Jul 4, 2022, 8:56 AM

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It's really up to you but I'd prefer subscription update over deletion.

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 8:59 AM

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okay, in case of card to iDeal switch, you said I won't need to change collection method

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but iDeal payment only supports send_invoice collection method right?

hollow ermine Jul 4, 2022, 9:08 AM

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Yes. so you don't need to change it to charge_automatically

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 9:09 AM

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No no, I mean if existing is card subscription it will have a collection method charge_automatically

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but iDeal will need send_onvoice collection method

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did you get my point?

flint marsh Jul 4, 2022, 9:17 AM

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👋 I'm stepping in for my colleague

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please give me a moment to catch up

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 9:23 AM

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ok

flint marsh Jul 4, 2022, 9:26 AM

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if existing is card subscription it will have a collection method charge_automatically
yes correct, so in that case you will have to change to send_invoice

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sorry I haven't tried this before, so I don't know whether it will work or if there's a limitation

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could you please try it out and let me know if it did work for you?

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 9:27 AM

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sure

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getting this error

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e ideal cannot be used with subscriptions that have the collection_method set to charge_automatically.

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this is my code

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` if (existing_subs.collection_method !== 'send_invoice') await stripe.subscriptions.update(subscription_id, { payment_settings: {
payment_method_types: ['ideal', 'card'] } });

const updated = await stripe.subscriptions.update(subscription_id, {
items: [{
id: existing_subs.items.data[0].id,
price: data.plan_id,
}],
payment_settings: { payment_method_types: ['card', 'ideal'] },
cancel_at_period_end: false,
proration_behavior: 'always_invoice', // use none to charge full_amount but need to wait to send updated invoice
collection_method: 'send_invoice',
payment_behavior: 'default_incomplete',
expand: ['latest_invoice.payment_intent'],
days_until_due: DAYS_UNTIL_INVOICE_EXPIRE,
});`

flint marsh Jul 4, 2022, 9:35 AM

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payment_method_types:      ['ideal', 'card'] } });

in this you're trying to change the payment method types to ideal for a subscription that has a collection method different than send_invoice

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you'd need to change the collection_method otherwise it wouldn't work

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 9:41 AM

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okay, it's working now.

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one more question

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if subscription status is canceled or incomplete_expired they can't be updated right?

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i.e. upgrade/downgrade is not possible

flint marsh Jul 4, 2022, 9:44 AM

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if subscription status is canceled or incomplete_expired they can't be updated right?
true

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 9:46 AM

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is there any other status, I should be careful of?

flint marsh Jul 4, 2022, 9:48 AM

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I don't think so

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 9:49 AM

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okay, so canceled and incomplete_expired can be deleted right?

flint marsh Jul 4, 2022, 9:50 AM

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they are in a sense

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 9:50 AM

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just curious if we will need this in future

flint marsh Jul 4, 2022, 9:50 AM

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you can't delete a subscription you can just cancel it

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 9:51 AM

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there is a API to delete subscriptions

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what does it do?

flint marsh Jul 4, 2022, 9:51 AM

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no there's only this API https://stripe.com/docs/api/subscriptions/cancel

Stripe API reference – Cancel a subscription – curl

Complete reference documentation for the Stripe API. Includes code snippets and examples for our Python, Java, PHP, Node.js, Go, Ruby, and .NET libraries.

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to cancel a subscription

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 9:53 AM

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what about this?

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stripe.subscriptions.del(subscription_id);

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oh okay, so del API set the status to cancel under the hood

flint marsh Jul 4, 2022, 9:57 AM

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yes exactly

hollow mural Jul 4, 2022, 10:03 AM

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okay, so I won't need any action against canceled and incomplete_expired right

flint marsh Jul 4, 2022, 10:09 AM

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yes right

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