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supple bough Apr 11, 2022, 9:59 AM

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Hi! What is the "transaction ID"? The PaymentIntent ID, or some metadata you added to the PaymentIntent, or something else?

clear pumice Apr 11, 2022, 10:04 AM

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transaction id means the completion of payment reference like we are using that i the future like refund or any payment related query. i think i will consider the payment_intent id as transaction id right?

also i have some other question if the confirm payment is failed due to some other reasons. how the incomplete payment intent will act? its not considered as successfull payment and not added in the payout right?

supple bough Apr 11, 2022, 10:06 AM

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If you want to retreive the PaymentIntent ID, you have two options (as I mentioend in the previous thread):

Listen ot webhook events, like payment_intent.succeeded
On the frontend with https://stripe.com/docs/payments/payment-intents/verifying-status#checking-status-retrieve

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how the incomplete payment intent will act?
Then users won't be redirected to the return_url . And you can check for the error in the confirmPayment call as shown here: https://stripe.com/docs/payments/accept-a-payment?platform=web&ui=elements#web-submit-payment

clear pumice Apr 11, 2022, 10:11 AM

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supple bough > how the incomplete payment intent will act? Then users won't be redirected to ...

yes but how the transaction will considered. because i see the dashboard the payment will show incomplete status. its fairly acceptable or not. because if the paymentintent failure and user try to reattempt to pay we have to create new payment_intent and proceed the order. but the incomplete payment will remain same.

supple bough Apr 11, 2022, 10:14 AM

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Yes, that's expected. PaymentIntent don't expire, so the incomplete PaymentIntent will stay. If you want to cancel the incomplete PaymentIntent, you can do that manually with https://stripe.com/docs/api/payment_intents/cancel?lang=node but you don't have to.

clear pumice Apr 11, 2022, 10:33 AM

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also another doubt. how we can perform saved card functionality in stripe js with payment_intent.
in our current charges integration we create a customer and attached token with customer and using default-source method to accive this.

but now how to we handle this? is stripe js displays saved cards?

supple bough Apr 11, 2022, 10:35 AM

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So you want to create a PaymentIntent and save the card at the same time? Then use setup_future_usage https://stripe.com/docs/api/payment_intents/create?lang=node#create_payment_intent-setup_future_usage

clear pumice Apr 11, 2022, 10:41 AM

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Actually we have this process in the current integration. so we expect the same in migration as well.

we have collect the card details from our UI
we provide an option save card check box to user
once they selected save card option we will create stripe_customer and attached card token to customer.
so next time that customer came to order we will list the cards, once they select the card we will make payment using make_default_resource and charges api.

so basically we want saved the card, and list the card and then if they choose some card then we will debit the amount on selected card

supple bough Apr 11, 2022, 10:43 AM

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Yes that should work. To save the card we recommend using a SetupIntent, or a PaymentIntent with setup_future_usage. Both of these options will attach the payment method to the customer.

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And you can list the payment methods of a specific customer with https://stripe.com/docs/api/payment_methods/list

clear pumice Apr 11, 2022, 10:47 AM

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Stripe JS have an option to list the saved card? or we will implement our own UI to list the card?

supple bough Apr 11, 2022, 10:51 AM

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You will need your own UI for this.

clear pumice Apr 11, 2022, 11:15 AM

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if we need our own UI, we will do all the things via API only. becuase in the normal flow when we create payment_intent then use stripe js comfirmpayment function to complete the payment.

if we use our UI for saved card purpose and normal flow will use stripe js UI it will misunderstand for users(because the card info page itselef we have to provide option for save card for future checkbox). and also if we using our UI to collect card information it will applicable for SCA?

i am confused how we can manage all the existing thing during this payment_intent migration

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if i am using our own UI for saved card purpose then why we need stripe js for normal flow. we can use our own ui for now payment flow also? but i dont know how to we confirm the payment_intent by using API's

chilly pilot Apr 11, 2022, 11:55 AM

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Hey, taking over from @supple bough

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Can you outline your question for me?

clear pumice Apr 11, 2022, 11:58 AM

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did you able to see my previous conversation with soma? or can i ask my question again?

chilly pilot Apr 11, 2022, 12:04 PM

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There's a lot to parse, can you summarise the ask?

clear pumice Apr 11, 2022, 12:31 PM

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actually i am ask how to perform saved card via stripe js. we need to list the saved card .but soma said if you need the card list you can implement your own UI

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if we need our own UI, we will do all the things via API only. becuase in the normal flow when we create payment_intent then use stripe js comfirmpayment function to complete the payment.

if we use our UI for saved card purpose and normal flow will use stripe js UI it will misunderstand for users(because the card info page itselef we have to provide option for save card for future checkbox). and also if we using our UI to collect card information it will applicable for SCA?

i am confused how we can manage all the existing thing during this payment_intent migration
if i am using our own UI for saved card purpose then why we need stripe js for normal flow. we can use our own ui for now payment flow also? but i dont know how to we confirm the payment_intent by using API's

chilly pilot Apr 11, 2022, 12:34 PM

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if we use our UI for saved card purpose and normal flow will use stripe js UI it will misunderstand for users(because the card info page itselef we have to provide option for save card for future checkbox). and also if we using our UI to collect card information it will applicable for SCA?
Yes, your payments will still likely fall under SCA regulations

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i am confused how we can manage all the existing thing during this payment_intent migration
if i am using our own UI for saved card purpose then why we need stripe js for normal flow. we can use our own ui for now payment flow also? but i dont know how to we confirm the payment_intent by using API's
You need Stripe.js to handle 3DS challenge flows. That can't be done via the API

clear pumice Apr 11, 2022, 12:40 PM

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can i use payment_intent without stripe js? and it will fall under SCA regulations?
if ues please share the procedure

chilly pilot Apr 11, 2022, 12:42 PM

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I don't understand the Q

clear pumice Apr 11, 2022, 12:45 PM

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actually our main goal is need SCA(we already using charges api integration with saved cards). so that we migrate to payment_intent .but if we use stripe js the saved card is not available so we need own UI for saved card.

so that is it possibe to use own ui(collect card info) with payment_intent? its fall under SCA?

chilly pilot Apr 11, 2022, 12:47 PM

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but if we use stripe js the saved card is not available so we need own UI for saved card.
Well, this isn't entirely true. You'd build your own UI to present the saved cards, and then pass the pm_xxx ID of the selected card to Stripe.js when confirming: https://stripe.com/docs/js/payment_intents/confirm_card_payment#stripe_confirm_card_payment-existing

Stripe JS Reference

clear pumice Apr 11, 2022, 1:45 PM

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is this possible to use payment_intent without stripe js.delaing only backed API's?

cunning veldt Apr 11, 2022, 1:54 PM

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Hi 👋 stepping in as my teammate needed to step away. You won't be able to build an SCA-compatible flow without a frontend that your customers would interact with for the authentication challenge.

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